How to really use a Dive Watch Bezel - Watch and Learn #69
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- In today's video, I will revisit a past Watch and Learn and explain a bit better how to use a dive watch bezel. Now that I've got my Open Water certification, I can speak a bit more intelligently about it!
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And when you’re not diving, it’s handy to use to remind you when it’s time to turn the chicken on the grill. 😆👍
Yes, or the laundry.
Dan’l 56 exactly!!!
Boiling eggs!
Penetration!
You set a timer for chicken.? You'll learn to grill one day.
The only time I've used dive bezels to time something submerged in water is when I boil eggs 😆
LOL
Never been diving, and first time I ever looked this up. I always assumed it was way more complicated than that! 🤣 Love the alternate plans for flipping food, or laundry duty!!
this is a much better explanation than the "so you don't run out of air" that you usually get from other sources. awesome stuff as always Marc
True, thanks!
Thx for the deep dive ! I'm decompressing now
LOL, thanks.
lol good one
Hi! I thought it might interest you to know another way you can use your bezel to plan your dives that my mentor taught me. Before your dive, you can check the no-decompression-limits of the depth to which you're descending with the nitrogen tables. Right before your descent, you can then move the bezel so that the bezel's arrow would show you the point at which you'd be crossing your NDL. For example, for an 18-meter non-repetitive dive, decompression would become mandatory upon the 51st minute. If you're starting the descent at 10:05, you would move the arrow to the 56th minute on your watch. This way the arrow plainly shows you your limits, and helps show you how much you've exceeded your NDL if ever that would happen - which is supposedly why the Seiko Pepsi watch's first twenty minute degrees are marked red. I myself have never dived with just a dive watch, but if the computer fails during the dive you'll at least have a clear track of your NDL :)
Thanks for this post. I don't dive and I don't know the failure rate of dive computers but as a backup I would buy another dive computer. I've seen them as low as $50.
@@danielfrancis3660 I agree 100%!
To get a second time zone, just múltiply the first digit in each Minute mark and eliminate the cero. Example 30 X 2 = 60, eliminate 0 then you get 6 hours. 40 X 2 = 80, eliminate 0 and will be 8 hours., and so on. Move the bizel to find time zone needed. Now you can use it as gmt keep your diver watch and save money.
I love using my bezel to track another time zone, as a compass, to count up or down from hours, minutes, and seconds, and it's fun to click when I'm bored lol.
i don't wanna be messing too much with my new promaster bezel just yet :XD
Nice description. Plan the dive, dive the plan. Know your dive site, you'll know the maximum depth, set the bezel accordingly. I've always used a (Suunto) dive computer, but backup-anything is always a Good Idea when you're not surrounded by lots of lovely air.
Thanks so much, maybe I'll check them out too :)
Marc, look at Shearwater.
I always dove with a computer and a dive master and a buddy , we would set the time of the dive and I would look at the watch occasionally to see how long we had been under.
That was very interesting. And oof! That picture 😳 😂. Congratulations on receiving your PADI certification.
LOL, thanks Jack!
Man! This guy knows and loves watches. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Great video, but you're using the bezel wrong. If you set the arrow on the bezel to the minute marker when you start your dive, hen all you're doing is tracking elapsed time, and in order to know when to start your ascent, you have to do math to stay on track (bottom time - elapsed time).
Instead, you set the arrow of the bezel an amount of minutes ahead that is equal to your bottom time. That way, all you have to remember is that when the minute hand reaches the arrow, it's time to ascend. At that point, your bezel is automatically timing the ascent.
Of course, few people dive flat profiles now that we have computers, and even fewer dive from a watch alone.
Thanks Marc for this explanation! Very interesting. Makes me wanna rotate my SKX bezel again for some more desk diving ;-)
Thank you!
Marc, the bezel can also be used to time different rates of ascent when using decompression stops, as well as the length of the deco stops.
Finally! Somebody who explains it right! Thank you from a PADI buddy!
I had bought my first watch (a SEIKO 4R36), and I had no idea how to use this until now, thank you for the good video. You narrate very well!
Excellent topic and instruction. I got NAUI certified back in the 1990s and they never discussed dive watches and how to use the bezels. It was purely the tables and the dive computers. Of course, I'd never wear any watch over my thick neoprene dive suit and risk losing or damaging it. Might consider wearing a watch in the warm waters of the Caribbean... Thanks, Marc!
Thank you!
I didn’t know what is a rotating bezel for and your explanations enlighten me . Thank you. However, I am not a big fan of scuba diving . The only thing that really fascinated me were divers watches. Lesson learnt and understood 😀
Thanks so much!
I just watched your older bezel watch N learn episode yesterday.
Yeah same
Hope this was better!
Finally I know how to use these!!! I’m gonna be using my Tissot Seastar to time my employees lunch breaks 😂😭😭😭
Before dive verify pressure on tanks adequate for planned dive time. Reference chart for decompression stops on ascent if required. Just before entering water set bezel to max dive time less ascent and reserve. The graduations after the triangle on the bezel are for checking emergency reserve when max dive time is exceeded. This way you dont have to calculate how long you've been down. I have never used it any other way. Very simple and very easy never go past the triangle on a dive.
Congrats on the PADI certification Marc👌! And thanks for the free bezel lesson
Welcome!
Good video. When I learned to dive, instead of remembering it, I was taught to mark the bottom time by moving the bezel to that minute marker. Of course that was over three decades ago.
I'm not a diver but that makes perfect sense! Thanks for the input 👍
Good on ya for this "I stand corrected" post. I got my open-water cert back in 1971!
Nice and thanks!
Thanks, never knew this!
‘Every day’s a school day’
👍
Great to hear!
Congrats on your PADI cert and a great video
Thank you, Craig.
I use it to remember when I fed my dog. He farts alot if I feed him one big meal, so I split it up in smaller meals every 6 hours. :p
Whatever works!
Sounds like LW needs a GMT!
:D
It's a one hour oven timer for me !
Thanks Mark for the video
LOL
Congratulations on your diving cert. (years ago lol) I'm the more common PADI wearer who never gets below 10 feet (but was ocean lifeguard certified in my youth).
Question for everyone: Would you take a non-Seiko watch to your Seiko dealer for repairs/service? (Specifically a 1982 Tag Heuer for a new bezel, sapphire crystal replacement and cleaning).
THANK YOU for the clear and straightforward explanation for a layman.
CHEERS!
always thought it was to determine how much time is left, good explaination
I am late to congratulate you. Welcome to the dive community. I will be getting a watch from you one day
Just found these watch and learn lessons. Well done.
Glad to see you revisit this. Welcome to the OW world. ~B
Just received my 007 from you. Love it. Thanks.
Well I’m no diver, but that’s fascinating. I could see myself using the dive bezel for lots of different things. Thanks for the video!
i love dive watches and now i can confidently know how to use it (as a non diver) lol but i love the easy explanation so anyone can understand
i dig your surf colors on Islander watches. bold and beautiful
Great video Mark. Many thanks fella
Thanks for watching.
Just bought my first watch with the rotating bezel function and had absolutely no idea what it was for mind spins both ways but with some resistance and I can't hear the click but thank you for the video
Thanks for the video, Mark. That's an interesting chart. Everything you said I was going to type you covered about divers using a computer and backup watch. I think most people who buy diver watches they buy for everyday use.
Thanks Scott.
My relatively extensive dive experience was long ago when I lived on Grand Cayman for two years. Dive computers weren't invented; I used a digital casio but It was even pre g shock!
It works!
good job on explaining the bezel on dive watches ✌️ I too use them as backup for recreational dives 👌🏽
congrats on getting OW certified 🎉
Interesting. I'm a cook myself, and I tend to be scatter brained in the kitchen. I use it to remind me when I put something in to bake etc. I also use it to remind me of appt times etc.
My Mares Smart Air has the pressure gauge transmitter. Pretty cool setup, but maybe not the most friendly. If you measure in bars the pressure indication is clearer. I’ll be very interested to see what you end up with after you research it and talk to your dive buddies.
That's cool! Yeah, when I choose, and put it to use, I'll let you know.
As a qualified BSAC sports diver (advanced open water/rescue diver PADI equivalent) i’ve found a dive watch handy for timing other peoples dives from the boat (to know if they are overdue) and the ticking seconds useful for the last minute of ascent after a safety stop from 18 feet (6metres) to the surface. Most of the rest is done on a computer as the computer dynamically recalculates deco time every few seconds. When abroad, you’ll often do deco wile swimming along a scenic reef at a shallower depth to extend dive time, this hard to do with a watch as you can only do a max depth max time calculation at the start. Still, every diver needs the time for other reasons (eg tide times ) and your generally on a wet boat so there will always be a need for a water proof watch one unless you get a watch sized computer but they are digital and look crap (pah!) :)
Wow. Thanks for this. Never really understood it. This is great explaination.
It let's me know how long I've been jogging 😎👍
Skx is visually a masterpiece.
Congrats on the cert! I often thought about it...but 🦈🦈🦈. Watch out! I think we are now on their food chain.
Do it !!!!
I find the bezel to be useful. For instance, if my personal best for a certain activity is 3 minutes I can use it to keep track of improvements. 🤪
Congrats on Padi Open Water certification! I felt so happy when I got mine in Egypt 🇪🇬
I love dive watches! I've never dived in my life...I can't even swim!
you nailed it.
Thank you, I'm glad to hear it.
Great Info
Great photo on your certification. Reminds me of my drivers license. lol
LOL, thanks.
Been using multi compartment dive comps since the mid '90s. I'll wear a dive watch, and carry the tables in a BC pocket, but they're only there in case the comp goes into timer/depth gauge mode, or just quits. They are handy for doing surface intervals, but most dive computers will let you do that plan too.
Right on. Maybe that's in a future video.
That's a great instructive video
Thank Tony!
It's correct that divers use computers today.
If you want a backup diving watch, buy a Pyle snorkeling/dive watch PSNKW30O (amazon, walmart).
Diver wristwatches are for telling time these days but they're still great.
Thank you!
I went on an advanced dive in South Florida a few weeks ago. The crew did not allow me to use a dive watch alone. I was required to use a dive computer.
So why use a dive watch when you can use a chronograph? Don't they have the same function?
Using the pushers while submerged allows water to enter the watch.
Congratulations, Marc!
I have quite some dive certificates (I am a dive master, 3 star CMAS license, with advanced nitrox certification) and we never ever discussed how to use a bezel on a dive watch. I though off course know how to use all dive tables, but normally I use an advanced dive computer (a Suunto).
I also would never use an expensive watch as a backup. I have the cheapest dive watch you can get as backup in case of decompression (deco) dives. In case of no deco dive, I wouldnt take an additional watch. In such a case I can simply rise without stop and there is always a buddy as backup.
And a dive computer has off course a system to monitor battery health and I never dive without good battery health.
Thanks for the feedback Erik!
Congrats!
Thank you
So a Rolex Submariner doesn't have ISO 6425 specs, because their bezels don't have 1 minute increments?
Hans Lankamp Rolex never claimed that their watches meet ISO 6425 requirements
@@5hanman I know, just thought it was interesting as they're "the iconic dive watch"
Yes, I guess you don’t need certification when you’re an icon and have been the watch of choice of professional divers for decades.
All a diver needs is a timer. Certification is silly. Serious divers used a computer and a back up computer. Computers monitor changes in depth many times a minute, which gives you a better/safer picture of nitrogen build up on your blood.
The original navy dive tables assumed no change in depth, and was tried/tested on humans!
@@drgjs Very true, but I feel like this argument is the equivalent of "your phone tells the time".
Great for putting discussions into the bigger picture, but doesn't really solve the thing at hand.
Fancy lighting looks fancy :)
Such a great video as always!! I took my Orient Diver into a Ocean...front view hot tub in Santa Cruz 🤣 true story
I didn't know why I watched this video because I don't even let myself get close to a swimming pool let alone go diving. All I knew was it was a video from Marc, therefore I have to watch it. It's ironic that diver watches are my favorite kind of watches.
LOL
Great video for us who actually use a dive watch for its intended purpose as a back up to dive computers (yes plural). #TwoIsOne #OneIsNone #MasterDiver #PADI #NAUI
I'm so excited to recieve my SKX009J which I ordered from your shop. Thanks for all the great tutorials. I'd like to be able to use my watch properly, so this is perfect!
Had to laugh when I saw that the black turtle’s dual time bezel on the poster is misaligned. 😂
Great video 👍I'm no diver, but I use my 'perfect rice' bezel all the time 😁
I wish you could've used a citizen promaster BN0150-28E so you can also explain what the latter's and numbers on the side of the rubber strap mean?
No deco times
Love Turks! It’s our favourite island/beach place in the Caribbean!
Nearly at 100k 😎😎😎
Gettin' there!
This isn't really the correct way to use one. Better to use it as a countdown timer not count up. If you plan to dive a 37 minute dive then point the minute hand to 23 at the start of the dive. That way the bezel counts DOWN to zero. Otherwise you are trying to remember a different number on every dive, which is not foolproof.
This also explains why the pepsi bezel is colored how it is. Red is the zero or hard stop marker for NDL.
Thank you for the video. Keep up the good work.
Thank you.
great clear explination, thanks
1:20 😂, we love you Marc!
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this is great stuff man ! Thanks for going over it !
Good discourse of your experiance. This was interesting and thanks.
I can the new Rolex Grill Master watch coming out. Far more useful than a dive watch.
Thanks Mark!
Great video!
Great video...thks !!!
Thanks!
Never did use a computer... My certification was the same year of the SKX realise. PADI Rescue certified. So someone in my late thirties that uses a watch not a computer... Do what I was trained.
And that works just fine.
Any updates about insert for Orient Triton ?
Not yet.
👍👍👍 Suunto has several pending on your experience.
Thanks, will check them out
Suunto are quite well made and used to be something of an industry standard. They use a different deco algorithm to everyone else (which is largely based on an existing model -the reduced gradient bubble model, or RGBM). Some people swear by it, but its main practical advantage, as I see it, is that lots of other people you dive with will be using the same algorithm owing to the proliferation of Suunto dive computers. Well, that used to be true, it is getting less. The disadvantage is that the theory behind the algorithm is not as accepted or popular as some other models. Deco theory is always just that, a theory. Also, you should not be pushing limits in recreational diving anyway, deco model differences do not matter so much because you are not ever supposed to be going into deco. Personally I always recommend computers with Bühlmann ZHL-16C (preferably with gradient factors) for recreational diving, as I feel it is a better, more established and trusted deco model. If I had to recommend a brand it would currently be Shearwater, I don't think any other computers come close in the market right now. They are comparatively expensive, however, and there are many other simpler and cheaper alternatives available for more casual or less frequent divers. I usually try and steer people away from Suunto because of the algorithm they use, their lockout method, and their price. I have used them extensively in the past and just feel there are better options.
Nice to know what the timer is for 👍 even if only use mine to remind me when my parking ticking expires.
Yup!
The unidirectional thing totally makes sense now
So what’s with the Pepsi color using red in the lowers numbers makes it seem like you’d be running out of time until you realize it would be counting up not down so what gives?
It's great for parking times, 👍
Thanks for the info.
Welcome to a whole new world.
Yup!
Cool stuff Marc, congratulations!
But what if the dive leader wasn't there on your first dive? That bezel was also used to ensure you didn't go over your NDL on that dive. The dive would be planned with tables, maximum depth, and the time you could stay there. The bezel was set at the beginning of the dive so you knew when to come up as per your plan. Nobody really does this now because it is so inflexible, particularly if you don't stay at your max depth. Computers can work out your NDL on the fly. It is still good practice to be able use tables, and to know the NDL for your max depth, but many people do just rely on their computer nowadays (rightly or wrongly). I still use a dive watch, and find it indispensable when teaching. The majority of dive computers do not show seconds because minutes are as fine scale as you need even for technical diving. However, during several skills in training, as you may recall, timing to the second is necessary. Watches are much handier for this purpose than stopwatches, I find. Other than that dive watches are indeed completely redundant underwater, save for looking retro cool. 😊 On the subject of retro chic underwater, please Marc, if I can give you any advice as a new diver, do not buy a massive dive knife and strap it to the outside of your lower leg!
Thanks Harry! Sounds like you know what you're talking about!
I use it to remind me of the parking limit time ;).
It's a good use.
Well I definitely learned something today. Thanks, Marc!
Great to hear, thank you.
Long Island Watch You’re welcome
I use my bezel multiple times daily.
Perfect for woodworking...
Super interesting! Many thanks for explaining. 👊
Thanks for watching.