TOTAL TRASH! Subaru WRX FA20DIT Failed Engine Teardown. How NOT To Rebuild A Turbo Subaru Correctly

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  • For parts from this engine or other engines I've torn down. Go to www.Importapart.com or email us at Sales@importapart.com
    For ALL THINGS SUBARU, Go to www.pmpautogroup.com
    Today we have a fan/viewer supplied engine! This 80k mile 2.0L FA20DIT is from a 2016 WRX. I don't believe the fan/viewer did this damage, I think it was purchased with this damage and subsequently repaired. This engine has been through hell and every part of it paints a picture of a corner cutting, penny pinching repair that clearly did NOT last.
    Why am I doing this? My name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business called Importapart. Part of our model includes dismantling blown up and bad engines to salvage the good parts. We do NOT rebuild engines, we merely sell parts to those who do.
    I really hope you enjoyed this teardown. As always, I love all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism.
    Catch you on the next one!
    -Eric

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  • @tylerrosser5938
    @tylerrosser5938 4 місяці тому +624

    This was my engine, I'm sure some of you are wondering the background. I bought the car with 75k miles, and it was completely stock. not even an intake. I had fun with car and occasionally drove it hard, but also did my oil change every 3k miles and I replaced spark plugs right after I bought it. One day I was cruising at 45mph and my oil level light came on. i pulled over and turned it off. My dipstick was popped out and oil was everywhere. I topped it off and continued driving, however anytime i got in boost the dipstick would come out again. Did a compression test to find out I lost compression on cylinder 1. I purchased a used motor from cheap on facebook and drove 3 hours to get it. Big mistake. Dude told me there was a head issue, so i said sweet, i just need the block. ended up having having a spun bearing. Cylinder 1 piston was blown apart (assuming from detonation) in the motor that was in my car. With no more money and 2 torn apart motors, and borrowing someone's garage (which i had 2 more days before i had to leave) i threw a "good" piston from the motor i bought into mine, hoping it would last long enough for me to get rid of the car. Didnt last a day XD. I had to suck it up and buy a legit good motor (using the rest of my savings) and swapped the good motor in. now the clutch is slipping and it isnt exactly running right so i havent been driving it. (I owe 22k on this car). yeah i know i messed up several times, and honestly i dont think i should have bought that wrx in the first place. I just dont make enough money.

    • @tylerrosser5938
      @tylerrosser5938 4 місяці тому +21

      Loved the video

    • @thisisobvious
      @thisisobvious 4 місяці тому +109

      Oh man. Appreciate the story and hope the replies don’t go too crazy on you 😂

    • @rickscott7350
      @rickscott7350 4 місяці тому +41

      $14,400 for a long block. Ouch. $4500 for a used. Even that is an ouch. Sorry things went bad.

    • @nicholasagnew2792
      @nicholasagnew2792 4 місяці тому +17

      I bought a W8 Passat, its an auto and I'd definitely advise to have the transmission serviced, but its a much less expensive AWD 275 hp car. The throttle response is uselessly delayed, I mean its atrocious but its a sweet car. Its like Mike Tyson in a Tuxedo...Hell, you could get a 20 year old manual legacy or outback and have almost as much fun. Just get a $1500 rally car you can beat on.

    • @bobcoats2708
      @bobcoats2708 4 місяці тому +45

      Sorry to hear that worked out so badly for you. Some of life’s best lessons really hurt in the moment. Wishing you the best.

  • @gerrycarmichael1391
    @gerrycarmichael1391 4 місяці тому +161

    The problem with turbo scoobies is typically someone gets a hold of one and instantly becomes a “tuner”. They bolt on stuff that requires a lot of ancillary work without doing said work and they cheap out on doing stuff like properly decking the heads. They then take their 400 hp hand grenade out and beat the living snot out of it and are shocked when parts of the rotating assembly reach escape velocity!

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 4 місяці тому +24

      It does seem like these cars are very attractive to the least skilled and most overconfident owners.

    • @HenrySomeone
      @HenrySomeone 4 місяці тому +29

      Not really, they are plenty capable of blowing up (often spectacularly!) even completely stock.

    • @kevinm5177
      @kevinm5177 4 місяці тому +6

      WRXs have crazy road holding but not amazing anti slosh in the oil pan. It’s why Killer Bee makes so much money.

    • @xXturbo86Xx
      @xXturbo86Xx 4 місяці тому +4

      No. The problem is that these engines are old designs that have been "modernized" with a focus on production cost reduction. That's why they suck.

    • @wpgspecb
      @wpgspecb 4 місяці тому +2

      @@HenrySomeone Incorrect, but keep trying. Its ok. We forgive you.

  • @TheByronYale
    @TheByronYale 4 місяці тому +261

    Having worked at a pacific northwest Subaru dealership service department and I can attest to the fact that kids buy WRXs that can barely afford them and then can't afford to maintain them and roast the engines on a regular basis.

    • @rturner4205
      @rturner4205 4 місяці тому +16

      I usually joke that if a WRX is in the shop and it's not for regular maintenance, It's usually for being treated like trash.

    • @HenrySomeone
      @HenrySomeone 4 місяці тому +43

      And even if you maintain them religiously, they'll still blow up sooner or later...

    • @CJinSD1
      @CJinSD1 4 місяці тому +9

      @@HenrySomeone And at some dealerships, they take the young guy aside when he buys the car and offers to reflash the ECU so the warranty will be void when the engine blows, just like it would have if it had never been modified and had been maintained by the book.

    • @YOLO891
      @YOLO891 4 місяці тому +16

      @@HenrySomeone Every engine blows up sooner or later. What's your point?

    • @HenrySomeone
      @HenrySomeone 4 місяці тому +19

      @@YOLO891 Nah, just the Subies 🤣🤣

  • @Flies2FLL
    @Flies2FLL 4 місяці тому +314

    "Sparkle Sensor"
    That actually exists in aviation. Helicopter transmissions have "chip detectors", which sense the forbidden glitter and let the pilots know they are about do to an autorotation......

    • @halkennedy6353
      @halkennedy6353 4 місяці тому +37

      I have seen that light come on.

    • @JohnSmith-pl2bk
      @JohnSmith-pl2bk 4 місяці тому +15

      @@halkennedy6353
      Mayday mayday mayday.....

    • @ghostrider-be9ek
      @ghostrider-be9ek 4 місяці тому +18

      most modern turbine engines have it as well - making metal is a quick way to IFSD

    • @Flies2FLL
      @Flies2FLL 4 місяці тому +5

      @@halkennedy6353 😳 I'm glad you are here to tell me that!

    • @sofielee4122
      @sofielee4122 4 місяці тому +30

      Not just helicopters, just about every turbine engine has them. Funny part of the TPE331-10N engine (one of the ones on the Cessna conquest) is that the chip detector isn't connected to the harness. Every 24 months you're supposed to take it out and look at it to see if the magnet has grabbed a chip lol

  • @litz13
    @litz13 4 місяці тому +382

    Soon as we heard this came from a WRX, it was obvious what we would find.
    WRX owners, after all, never modify their cars and always drive moderately only to church on Sundays.

    • @buttsexandbananapeels
      @buttsexandbananapeels 4 місяці тому

      Don’t forget they hire the very best technicians to make sure their race ready super cars are ready for any challenge at the drive thru.

    • @SubOhmN8
      @SubOhmN8 4 місяці тому +20

      They sit there and idle at restaurant drive thru's. Never get above 3k RPMs. Granny drivers. 😂😂

    • @aaronbryan5095
      @aaronbryan5095 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@SubOhmN8 idling often will still wear out an engine by quite a bit though

    • @vumba1331
      @vumba1331 4 місяці тому +2

      Driving Miss Daisy.

    • @Wtrxprs007able
      @Wtrxprs007able 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@aaronbryan5095Not as much as keeping it at 7000rpm most of the time. At idle the all the parts and fluids stay at operating temp and is the best time for them.
      I dont know about in USA but here in aus, taxis easily see 700,000km+ from an engine because theyre never turned off.

  • @kennethwilson1140
    @kennethwilson1140 4 місяці тому +134

    I thought the Bering Sea was between Alaska and Russia not in the bottom of a Subaru oil pan 😱

  • @adriansdigitalbasement
    @adriansdigitalbasement 4 місяці тому +169

    Yes, I think the MGT2259S is the OEM turbo for the Forester XT and WRX during those years.

    • @suttondavis1929
      @suttondavis1929 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep that is the turbo

    • @jfan4reva
      @jfan4reva 4 місяці тому +8

      AND you can get a remanufactured one for only $700 - $750 plus shipping. (Eric is crying real tears at this point.)

    • @MrWoodyBalto
      @MrWoodyBalto 4 місяці тому +35

      I spent 0 minutes searching for this info. I knew all would be revealed right here in the comments.🤘

    • @disposablehero4911
      @disposablehero4911 4 місяці тому +1

      So, car videos someday? Esp. if it's 80's cars.😉

    • @JZB-2022
      @JZB-2022 4 місяці тому +26

      Unexpected Adrian's digital basement

  • @Turtle_Two
    @Turtle_Two 4 місяці тому +43

    Eric sloshes his hand in the waste oil searching for the dropped socket extension, and I'm thinking "Doesn't he have a magnet on a stick?" And shortly thereafter, he's splitting the block and fishes out bolts with... a magnet on a stick! What time do you film these awesome teardowns that you're thinking so clearly?

    • @I_Do_Cars
      @I_Do_Cars  4 місяці тому +56

      Usually 10pm to 1am lol

    • @Ghauster
      @Ghauster 4 місяці тому +8

      Better was when he was getting ready to throw the water pump. 🤣

  • @litz13
    @litz13 4 місяці тому +154

    That turbo impeller looks like it came off an airplane after a bird strike.
    Don't know that we've ever seen one THAT wrecked!

    • @kviasen7603
      @kviasen7603 4 місяці тому +8

      The turbo nut is counter clockwise threaded so should never be able to unscrew. and the piston small end cap was not tightened at all? could this be an Insurance scam ?.

    • @HenrySomeone
      @HenrySomeone 4 місяці тому +5

      @@kviasen7603 If there is one brand where you don't need to do an insurance scam (atleast as far as blown up engines go), it's Subaru - you just drive it a bit more and it will do that for you... 😆😆

    • @stevevalley7835
      @stevevalley7835 4 місяці тому

      Charles the "Humble Mechanic" guy dissected a GTI engine some years ago, and the turbo was at least that chewed up.

    • @BlueSteel331
      @BlueSteel331 4 місяці тому

      @@kviasen7603 - BIG end cap actually = learn mechanics.

    • @luckyguy600
      @luckyguy600 4 місяці тому +2

      Seen that a few times in the spring with birds nesting in DC-8 cabin compressor inlets on the nose.4 of them
      Boom!
      They were humming along till they just let go.
      The two outer compressors were not horrible to change. The two inboards were a nightmare.
      What a design.

  • @MetaView7
    @MetaView7 4 місяці тому +87

    17:30 The sign says the turbo is made in Wuhan. That's right, that famous place !

    • @disposablehero4911
      @disposablehero4911 4 місяці тому +25

      Wow, everything that comes out of that place just sucks.

    • @thelonelywolf88
      @thelonelywolf88 4 місяці тому +18

      That turbo caught it

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 4 місяці тому +19

      Quick quarantine the engine!

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 4 місяці тому

      Wuhan stands out as the filthiest s*** hole I have ever visited.

    • @xXturbo86Xx
      @xXturbo86Xx 4 місяці тому +3

      CHINA TURBO!

  • @ikocheratcr
    @ikocheratcr 4 місяці тому +118

    The best part today: "that metal has oil in it", that is a new level.

    • @curtiseggemeyer5681
      @curtiseggemeyer5681 4 місяці тому +3

      I loved that .

    • @samoliver3242
      @samoliver3242 4 місяці тому +5

      "would you like some oil with your metal shavings sir?"

    • @Tylermattrazzo
      @Tylermattrazzo 4 місяці тому

      Came across this comment as he said it, perfect

  • @WarmPudgy
    @WarmPudgy 4 місяці тому +300

    holy smokes! with the oil pan sitting directly over the exhaust, these engines must absolutely cook the oil.

    • @Justme-jt1ef
      @Justme-jt1ef 4 місяці тому +49

      I was thinking that as well some will say but it has heat Shields and I say not when they put salt on the roads.

    • @MattExzy
      @MattExzy 4 місяці тому +45

      I like how I got a Subaru ad right before this played.

    • @gregsalerno1434
      @gregsalerno1434 4 місяці тому +13

      Bad design !

    • @mikeyp916
      @mikeyp916 4 місяці тому +71

      There are several heat shields, plenty of airflow, and an oil cooler to keep oil cool. It rarely goes above 100C unless it's hard driving.

    • @samholdsworth420
      @samholdsworth420 4 місяці тому

      ​@@mikeyp916212°f is warm lol

  • @bradgreen987
    @bradgreen987 4 місяці тому +78

    " Somebody's been in there" is the boxer engine death sentence

    • @pocketpc_
      @pocketpc_ 4 місяці тому +7

      Yup. Keep 'em stock and keep oil in 'em and they will run hundreds of thousands of miles no problem. But WRX owners just can't seem to stop themselves from loading up the bolt-ons...

    • @evoman44
      @evoman44 4 місяці тому

      I recommend reading the previous owner's comment that is now pinned at the top. He basically half assed the rebuild himself because he was broke.

    • @CaveyMoth
      @CaveyMoth 27 днів тому

      It feels like a Dankpods reference

  • @caleb5962
    @caleb5962 4 місяці тому +15

    I own an EJ25 that i did a roll disk resurface on. Not for lack of money but lack of time. Every machine shop was weeks out and i had about a week to get the heads done and car back together. So together it went after checking with a straight edge. That was 80k miles ago. No problems yet. I feel like i won the lottery on that one.

  • @thomasfletcher760
    @thomasfletcher760 4 місяці тому +33

    Knock knock . Uncle Rodney ? I choose option 3 , someone definitely assembled the engine wrong

    • @luckyguy600
      @luckyguy600 4 місяці тому

      bad bad mechanic

    • @evoman44
      @evoman44 4 місяці тому

      The previous owners comment is now pinned at the top. He basically half assed the rebuild because he was pressed for time and was broke.

  • @robertnichols2283
    @robertnichols2283 4 місяці тому +49

    It looks like that engine has suffered one or more mechanical insults
    I’ll bet you there’s more to the story of this engine than we know

    • @connor1285
      @connor1285 4 місяці тому +8

      This is my buddies engine, trust me. Holy shit. There's alot

    • @TheCRTman
      @TheCRTman 4 місяці тому +2

      @@connor1285 Must know more!!

    • @RipliWitani
      @RipliWitani 4 місяці тому

      I knew it

    • @unavailablenumbers
      @unavailablenumbers 4 місяці тому +1

      @@connor1285 well, I mean, that was kind of a given with the extremely obviously counterfeit turbo. Entirely bogus markings everywhere, wrong finish, very obviously the wrong impeller bolt, wrong wastegate actuator, etc., etc., etc.

  • @cparks7800
    @cparks7800 4 місяці тому +13

    That lil chinga dera hanging off the cam is a brake booster vacuum pump
    Garrett Honeywell makes the oem 15-21 turbo.

  • @davestark2015
    @davestark2015 4 місяці тому +32

    My favorite part of Saturday. Cheers Sir

  • @zxggwrt
    @zxggwrt 4 місяці тому +10

    Handywell turbos from Temu are ok if you don’t use them.

  • @ADoneGooner
    @ADoneGooner 4 місяці тому +39

    This channel is so relaxing. It's ASMR for gearheads. Gnight 309 wherever you are.❤

  • @mikeyp916
    @mikeyp916 4 місяці тому +13

    Fun fact about that turbo location, it is not new to the FA platform. There were also bottom mount turbo EJ engines available on the 2010-2012 Legacy GT which was also mated to the new 6 speed transmission that replaced the old 5 speed. It is almost identical to the 2015+ WRX unit.

  • @aronyak1
    @aronyak1 4 місяці тому +13

    I really thought the water pump was going to go through the rear window of the car.

  • @MichaelRadelet
    @MichaelRadelet 4 місяці тому +10

    Maybe other people have suggested this and maybe you have done one before but I’d like to see a 2.7 out of the newer silverados/colorados/caddy at4

  • @7MGTEsupra89
    @7MGTEsupra89 4 місяці тому +24

    As a Toyota Master Tech, ive done enough of the Scion FRS/Toyota 86 they are the FA20 Non-Turbo, They all do this. They all blow up. THEY ARE JUNK!

  • @GoneAsGoneCanBe
    @GoneAsGoneCanBe 4 місяці тому +53

    Watching you admire timing chains as if they were high quality gold ones will forever be one of my favorite bits of this channel.

    • @91CavGT5
      @91CavGT5 4 місяці тому

      I think he has a timing chain fetish. With how he handles them, with how he talks about them, yeah……….

    • @littlesquirtthefireengine5478
      @littlesquirtthefireengine5478 4 місяці тому

      I think we need a 'top 10 eric's favorite timing chains' episode

  • @The_Last_Question
    @The_Last_Question 4 місяці тому +9

    Owned a 15 Forester XT with this engine, the Forester gave me more problems than this engine. Strangest quirk about the whole car was that it really disliked having a weak battery, even giving engine lights over it. That car wore its wheel bearings and broke studs on the front passenger side consistently. Plugs looked a lot better than that when I changed them in this video. Oh and these cars lose the refrigerant every 2-3 years in Florida but generally the cooling system held up. The A/C pump gets noisy when its low. I gave that thing every little preventative service, which I think is the most important thing, nothing runs long without keeping the changeable fluids and parts out today.

  • @miketdavies
    @miketdavies 4 місяці тому +22

    "Debris... took off the tip" well played.
    Also, nice jab at Ray!

    • @miketdavies
      @miketdavies 4 місяці тому

      BTW speedkar had a 3.6L Subie teardown a while back, was interesting!

    • @KarlHamilton
      @KarlHamilton 4 місяці тому +1

      Explain please lol

    • @TracyCorbett
      @TracyCorbett 4 місяці тому +1

      I came to the comments to see how many of us appreciated that little bit of dad joke brilliance!

  • @Pmpautogroup
    @Pmpautogroup 4 місяці тому +48

    Thanks for the Shout out Eric, and letting me be apart of the video. To those who wish to bring up a forum post about Pmp from 12 years ago, Give it a rest... this is a salvage yard, not a puppy and kitten adoption center, we will never make 100% of the people happy 100% of the time. Thanks!

    • @AudioHead809
      @AudioHead809 4 місяці тому +6

      You guys are great! I bought a transmission from you guys years ago.

    • @Pmpautogroup
      @Pmpautogroup 4 місяці тому +3

      @@AudioHead809 Thanks!

    • @TheMissing62
      @TheMissing62 4 місяці тому +2

      So you say I can't adopt a Ford Coyote or an LS...?
      My heart is broken in pieces.

  • @MindCast-YT
    @MindCast-YT 4 місяці тому +7

    117k on my full bolt on FA20 running e50 and making 360/350 on an unequal length header and stock turbo, 4 different dyno sessions throughout the modification process. they're good engines if taken care of right. I've had mine going on 7 years and the only issue I've had is a bad OCV which was $50 bucks. I take it to plenty of mexico nights and play when I want to but take care of it and drive normal most of the time. That was the stock turbo btw.

  • @SanDiegoHarry1
    @SanDiegoHarry1 4 місяці тому +62

    What's amazing is just how BIG that 4 cyl engine is.

    • @solderbuff
      @solderbuff 4 місяці тому +11

      Definitely adding to the problems of this engine design.

    • @geeniusatwrok
      @geeniusatwrok 4 місяці тому +17

      That is the biggest damn timing cover I've ever seen aide from a Ford Cammer 427.

    • @martin-vv9lf
      @martin-vv9lf 4 місяці тому +2

      @@solderbuff it's the only part that's not broken.

    • @thegroundhurts
      @thegroundhurts 4 місяці тому +5

      About 70lbs heavier than most inline 4’s.

    • @jerrybracco9893
      @jerrybracco9893 4 місяці тому

      Best water pump gag yet!

  • @chriscord6524
    @chriscord6524 4 місяці тому +11

    Is it possible to see the ecu output at the time of failure? Like rpm and error codes? It would provide a nice picture of why they fail. Like a black box

    • @TDX3000
      @TDX3000 4 місяці тому +2

      No

    • @chriscord6524
      @chriscord6524 4 місяці тому +3

      @@TDX3000 the manufacturers can’t see what rpm the motor was for warranty? I just think they can. The data is there.

    • @blakelinn4499
      @blakelinn4499 4 місяці тому +2

      I know its possible to see freeze frame data at the event certain codes are set.

    • @lsswappedcessna
      @lsswappedcessna 4 місяці тому +4

      P69420 - "Generalized Subaru Failure"

  • @JohnEvans-ct6mz
    @JohnEvans-ct6mz 4 місяці тому +9

    I can attest to how good the H6 is. I had to replace a timing chain on an early 2000’s Outback. The job was a complete nightmare (I had never done one and the entire powertrain had to be dropped and I was working in an aftermarket shop). But, this engine ran very well and it had just under 250,000 miles on it. I was quite impressed by it, which is saying something because I am not a Subaru fan.

  • @trupatriot1776
    @trupatriot1776 4 місяці тому +10

    You know the teardown is going to be a good one when Mardi Gras oil is used.

  • @dsubaru
    @dsubaru 4 місяці тому +21

    Owner of 3 Subarus, one of which has this exact motor in it, and it was great seeing a full FA20 teardown! I'm so glad you showed the intake valves, as I wasn't able to find a reliable source on how bad the carbon can get for a long time. Much LESS worried now having seen this, as we are clearly nowhere near Volkswagen / Mini levels of DI filth.
    Ironically it's my H6 Subaru engine that gives me the most grief, though to be fair that IS because it's 30 years old! (Definitely support the H6 recommendation, a shame Subaru stopped making them).
    Specific to what Eric found here: the wet plugs is a common phenomenon on FA20s if I understand it correctly. One of my driver side plugs had a similar look to it when I replaced them last year. Seems this unit was the same.
    Also this engine was definitely mangled by someone before it got to the stand of shame. Only heard of one type of 3M rollock wheel being approved for use by Subaru, and that was only for removing RTV, not for..."re surfacing" the heads (I'd probably stick with a razor blade anyway, just to be safe).
    Would love to see an FA24 teardown once one inevitably ends up in your shop! Curious to see the differences in valvetrain and connecting rods, two areas Subaru supposedly tried to improve after people started finding the limits of the FA20.
    PS - Don't let the memes scare you, modern 4 cylinder Subarus are not all time bombs, and any ordinary Subaru that's been well maintained by a normal person should serve you just fine as long as you pay attention and take care of it. You can even find relatively un-ruined 2015+ WRXs easily enough if you dig a little because chasing big power without port injection is prohibitively expensive for a lot of people. Just try and avoid buying someone else's instagram build and you'll likely be fine

    • @YOLO891
      @YOLO891 4 місяці тому

      I own a 2020 wrx with 55k on it and i love my ol'girl i take care of her but anyway if you want to see tear downs and other knowledge on the FA20 or the FA24 engines 3 of the most knowledable subaru humans on youtube maybe the whole internet check out MotoIQ, Mrsubaru1387 and Smeedia.

    • @evoman44
      @evoman44 4 місяці тому +1

      I recommend reading the previous owner's comment that is now pinned at the top. He basically did a half assed rebuild himself because he was broke.

    • @Keepmywifesnameoutyafucknmouth
      @Keepmywifesnameoutyafucknmouth 12 днів тому

      You must hate yourself

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd 4 місяці тому +4

    I have an FA20 DIT 2.0 turbo in our daily driver, a 2015 Subaru. It's fun to see it torn down, thanks for your effort.

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 4 місяці тому +24

    @9:10 - I had a Fumoto locking ball valve on my old 99 Forester. Made changing oil a toolless prospect. DO NOT take your car to a lube place without first explaining what the valve is. A friend did this and the oil change place did a Fumoto delete on his car because they couldn't figure it out. They also charged him for a new oil drain bolt and crush washer.

    • @cricketyosh
      @cricketyosh 4 місяці тому +17

      I think if you're putting a fumoto on your vehicle you aren't going to a quick lube

    • @robertslegers257
      @robertslegers257 4 місяці тому +3

      I can't believe this engine failed. It had a K and N oil filter.

    • @michaelgleason4791
      @michaelgleason4791 4 місяці тому +7

      @@cricketyosh He literally told you his friend did just that.

    • @TechGorilla1987
      @TechGorilla1987 4 місяці тому +3

      @@cricketyosh The friend got the valve based on my recommendation. He traveled all over in his vehicle and if it got even 2 miles over a scheduled oil change, he panicked. He had taken it to a quick lube place over a lunch break in Solon Ohio.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 4 місяці тому

      ​@@TechGorilla1987What's the point though? Undoing a drain plug takes seconds, and it looked like the flow out of the ball valve was much lower than out of a regular drain plug.

  • @mcburcke
    @mcburcke 4 місяці тому +7

    Man, that is a real Rube Goldberg-looking contraption you've got there! I wonder what the total parts count is for that thing?

  • @satoshiserena4843
    @satoshiserena4843 4 місяці тому +6

    Here are a couple engines you should tear down just for fun.
    GM 1.5L Turbo 4 (LYX)
    Ford Godzilla 7.3L V8
    Chrysler 2.4L Tigersharl MultiAir I4
    Toyota A25A-FXS (Camry or RAV4 hybrid)
    Chrysler Pentastar 3.2L V6

  • @chrisr897
    @chrisr897 4 місяці тому +25

    Performance Shop by me gets so many blown WRX’s they keep rebuilt long blocks on the shelf ready to go.

    • @tdotw77
      @tdotw77 4 місяці тому +6

      Straight up job security right there!

    • @evoman44
      @evoman44 4 місяці тому

      That's actually a good thing. The average car today have little options available other than buying a new engine or short block because they are not rebuild able and the used salvage engines are too risky.

  • @caddydave
    @caddydave 4 місяці тому +2

    Of all cars sold today, imo Subaru is the company that could most benefit from electrification TOMORROW! … their engines are junk… always have been.
    How many quarts of oil does that tiny pan hold?
    Is it possible to get the exhaust any closer to the oil pan? I wonder what the oil temp is on one of these?

  • @TheVespap200e
    @TheVespap200e 4 місяці тому +6

    Love the LS cam bearings comment!😀👍Was that a reference to Rainman Rays teardown by any chance?

  • @Barklen226
    @Barklen226 4 місяці тому +2

    My 2018 WRX FA motor spit a rod bearing all stock at 63k miles...just outside of warranty... subaru told me to go fck myself when i plead with them to cover it under warranty because i did my own oil changes and i didnt get them done at a subaru dealer.
    Luckily my dealership had given me a 1 year warranty and they covered a used longblock.
    I traded the car in after it was fixed and I'll never go back

  • @major__kong
    @major__kong 4 місяці тому +41

    My wife owns a Subaru Outback. I'm gonna rip the engine out right now and set it by the street. Thanks for the heads up.

    • @fix0r420
      @fix0r420 4 місяці тому +3

      😂

    • @BenoJ3000
      @BenoJ3000 4 місяці тому +8

      Headache saved

    • @Sam-go3mb
      @Sam-go3mb 4 місяці тому +4

      Good call, btw quickly swap in a Studebaker 6-Cylinder Flathead in its place - she wont know the difference.

    • @Healthliving1967
      @Healthliving1967 4 місяці тому +3

      I feel sorry for you owning one of those pieces of sht subarus.

    • @YOLO891
      @YOLO891 4 місяці тому +1

      Why would you do that? Did you try to modify it not knowing what you are doing or don't change her oil and do proper maintenance like a vehicle should get done? If not you're comment makes no sense.

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 4 місяці тому +7

    @20:28 - Well timed and well placed circumcision joke right there. Very nice.

  • @bradgreen987
    @bradgreen987 4 місяці тому +37

    I have the exact same engine and same model year Subaru. If you modify it( like mine heavily) you MUST have it professionally tuned on a dyno to accommodate the changes. Otherwise they will blow like this one. Maintenance is also imperitive on these, especially turbo models. An IAG air/ oil separator is a must to decrease buildup on intake valves. Then you just pray!! I got 65k on mine and it's smooth as butter

    • @suttondavis1929
      @suttondavis1929 4 місяці тому +14

      130k miles on my '16, and I'm on e50. Crazy how reliable it can be if you do the right mods and do regular maintenance. It's a good car if you take care of it

    • @Hybris51129
      @Hybris51129 4 місяці тому +5

      This is one reason why I turned down a order for a 2023 GR86. The more I learned about the engines the more I knew that I was biting off more than I could chew when it came to modding. Not to mention the closest well reviewed specialty tuner for Subaru's was nearly 900 miles away.

    • @alexpetree2038
      @alexpetree2038 4 місяці тому

      ​@suttondavis1929 130k on a modded performance engine isn't impressive in anyway shape or form

    • @dsubaru
      @dsubaru 4 місяці тому +2

      2018 WRX here, same story, absolutely no signs of engine trouble after 6 years and nearing 100k kilometers. Only concern I have is corrosion on the copper oil cooler potentially causing a leak in the future, and that's just the great salty north working its magic, not Subaru's fault.
      Leave these engines stock, or modify them *slowly* making sure to properly dial in each mod / tune, and they really won't treat you that poorly at all, especially if you have a local Subaru shop who can help you out with the heavy stuff. If you absolutely must, throw an AOS at the carbon buildup problem, but even if you don't (I personally haven't) it REALLY isn't that big of a deal. This engine may look gross to those with port injection, but just look at some of the earlier direct injection Minis, Audis, and Volkswagens and you'll quickly see what REAL carbon buildup looks like. (Hint: it was way worse than what you see here, and probably part of why people fear direct injection to this day)

    • @suttondavis1929
      @suttondavis1929 4 місяці тому +3

      @@alexpetree2038 Modified turbo subaru engines kick the can far before 100k miles. I wasn't trying to be impressive--I was merely stating how many miles the car has
      Edited.

  • @MistaGeezy90
    @MistaGeezy90 4 місяці тому +3

    I owned a 2016 WRX and it was the biggest piece of junk. The FA20DIT is the worst engine subaru ever made! No power after 2nd gear. The cam sprockets for timing chain ending losing teeth and would make an awful noise every time I started it. Dealer fixed it under warranty and I traded that garbage in.

  • @aderi31415
    @aderi31415 4 місяці тому +4

    I know you're in touch with Rainman. Could you please let him know that he's gonna get an infection if he keeps going back to front on teardowns?

  • @MattPetersen-kr5qj
    @MattPetersen-kr5qj 4 місяці тому +16

    My stock ‘17 WRX blew off two pieces of the #4 piston skirt at 113,000 miles which then fell into the oil pain ruining the bearings. No I didn’t race it, auto cross it etc it just blew up. As I stated it was stock. I also maintained it diligently trying to avoid a catastrophic engine failure. I’m not a kid either I’m in my 50s. I’ll never buy a Subaru again.

    • @evoman44
      @evoman44 4 місяці тому +1

      2005 WRX owner here with 140k miles. I think mine has lasted as long as it has even though I have tracked it a few times because I have addressed the flaws those particular models had. From what I have read your generation engines had an issue with uneven cooling of the cylinders. But there is a simple modification that fixes the issue by adding another coolant line to the block. They even make a kit for the fix. Another thing that causes damage to boxer engines is lugging it by being in too tall of a gear when traveling a slow speed. That causes detonation and piston slap.

    • @talusranch990
      @talusranch990 3 місяці тому +3

      Me neither, almost same story. Subaru is a joke

    • @talusranch990
      @talusranch990 3 місяці тому +1

      Same story but was spun bearing, Subaru is a joke

  • @rosschamberlain1823
    @rosschamberlain1823 4 місяці тому +8

    That engine was lovingly gone through by an expert.

    • @bryede
      @bryede 4 місяці тому +1

      An expert, just not in mechanics.

  • @KentuckyRanger
    @KentuckyRanger 4 місяці тому +2

    The biggest issue with the H4, is how Subaru puts turbos on them, to keep up with the demand, especially on the Outback, and its fat cousin, the Ascent.
    I owned a 2009 Outback, with the H4, and it ran OK, but I could feel the engine constantly struggling to get the car down the road.
    I traded it in on a 2015 Outback, with the 3.6 H6, and the difference was night and day.
    When the Ascent came out, I thought it would come standard with the H6, or maybe Subaru would make an H8, but nope...
    Instead, they discontinued the H6, slapped a turbo on the smallest H4 they have, and called it a day...
    I totally understand Subaru's frustration with the CAFE standards, but good Lord, what a mess.
    I'll be keeping and maintaining my 2015 3.6 Outback, until the wheels fall off.
    But if they don't do something reasonable, like bringing back the H6, or maybe incorporating a hybrid system, that aids the H4 in acceleration, and stop with the turbo foolishness, I won't be purchasing another one.
    Don't get me wrong!
    I don
    t mind the turbo charging, but only for the sport models.
    People who buy sport models, understand, that the engine will be pushed to its limits, and that it also won't last very long, because of the performance boost.
    But when you boost the performance of an engine, just to get it to propel the car down the road, you've basically made the car junk in 5~7 years.

  • @Ghauster
    @Ghauster 4 місяці тому +6

    That water pump looks like a snail. That's the word you were looking for. 😉

  • @rxy2580
    @rxy2580 4 місяці тому +2

    In early 2000 years Subaru made 2.5 boxer engines which were known by manufacturer to have hairline microscopic cracks in the cylinder head due to casting fault. Subaru had Holt Lloyd / Simoniz re-label bottles of Holts Radweld as Subaru cooling conditioner which was then added at the service interval by the dealer without letting the public know. All they cared about was as long as it lasted 3 years and outside of warranty they couldnt give a monkeys.

  • @djnone8137
    @djnone8137 4 місяці тому +5

    I bought a subaru off a Subaru mechanic. He blew a headgasket and replaced the engine. He was selling it because that engine blew a headgasket. He also stopped being a Subaru mechanic

    • @tormado
      @tormado 27 днів тому

      This cracked me up

    • @djnone8137
      @djnone8137 24 дні тому

      @tormado I wish he told me it blew a headgasket before he made my gf believe he just replaced the engine for a blown headgasket before quitting as a Subaru tech to work in the mill.
      she was ecstatic to show me this Subaru in the driveway and the first thing I did was call her an idiot. The second thing I did was pop the radiator cap. The third thing I did was call her an idiot. The 4th thing I did was get an uber when she tossed my belongings in the yard.
      The 5th thing I did was laugh at her sister because she blocked me when I responded to the for sale post on Craigslist
      Subaru cost me a good life.
      They also cost a good life to the idiot who bought that Subaru off Craigslist with a blown headgasket

  • @BiologistRyan
    @BiologistRyan 4 місяці тому +5

    I must have a unicorn. 120k miles so far and it’s been happy.

    • @xXturbo86Xx
      @xXturbo86Xx 4 місяці тому +3

      I guess you never hit 60. Good for you. Speed kills and ruins Subarus.

    • @BiologistRyan
      @BiologistRyan 4 місяці тому

      @@xXturbo86Xxbold of you to assume you know anything about how I drive.

    • @Denverian
      @Denverian 3 місяці тому

      👃👈

  • @emilschw8924
    @emilschw8924 4 місяці тому +4

    The disptick did not even put up a good fight this time.
    Good water pump skit there 😂

  • @tombig4011
    @tombig4011 4 місяці тому +2

    We have a GM 2.7 4 cylinder out of a 22 Silverado 1500. Really want to see what’s in it, but the $1200 core charge is stopping me.

  • @1mknova350
    @1mknova350 4 місяці тому +16

    There is a tech on the line at Subaru Mr. Stripymoto San who makes sure bolts come rounded from the factory.

  • @reluctantadv
    @reluctantadv 4 місяці тому +2

    I'm pretty sure the H6 has a very different driver/owner profile than a turboed WRX.

  • @timbrown9731
    @timbrown9731 4 місяці тому +5

    Yes, you can’t blame it on head gaskets anymore now it’s just front cover leaks….

    • @fubartotale3389
      @fubartotale3389 4 місяці тому +6

      Improper modifications, improper maintenance.
      Abuse.
      These are the main causes of Subaru engine failure.
      I have seen WRX's with 300, 000 miles.

    • @patrikkrywult
      @patrikkrywult 4 місяці тому

      @@fubartotale3389 We have Legacy GT 2010 with 320000 Km...

  • @peted5217
    @peted5217 2 місяці тому +1

    Subaru Engines have same inherent weakness split case motors share. Bore, crank brng dimensions distort .002 or more @ hi HP outputs. Available solutions will improve reliability. MotoIQ has short on theirs. Expect 5 figure costs.

  • @hkfan4596
    @hkfan4596 4 місяці тому +5

    subarus are junk

  • @barrybeckford2733
    @barrybeckford2733 4 місяці тому +1

    Wondering why they ALL sound like a drowning weed eater? Is it the firing order? VW flat 4's, Lycoming, Continental aitcraft engines DON'T sound bad like this...weird..

  • @darrylr
    @darrylr 4 місяці тому +3

    I so want Snap-On to make a vice-grip head for their torque wrenches.

  • @wolfman9999999
    @wolfman9999999 4 місяці тому +1

    Whomever touched this engine should be banned from opening the hood of any car. As for the corners cut on whatever they're attempting to call an overhaul. They cut ALL the corners, and then a few more to make sure. That poor engine... Yikes

  • @liver.flush.maestro
    @liver.flush.maestro 4 місяці тому +3

    It does look like Subaru took a lot of feedback from the previous engine generation and applied it here. I think they used chain because the VVT is oil pressure fed, and less likely to leak since there are no camshaft seals.

  • @eaglewindspirit
    @eaglewindspirit 4 місяці тому +1

    Awww..."Sube Ba Bo" warm green earth embracing owners with their blown gas sucking engines...LOL

  • @Freighttrain-yd4fz
    @Freighttrain-yd4fz 4 місяці тому +3

    What gloves do you use? I know I'm not the only one who would like to know brand of gloves those greeen gloves are.

  • @andrewl9472
    @andrewl9472 4 місяці тому +3

    To me, having the number of cams equal to the number of cylinders suggests unnecessary complexity. Plus that just seems like a really large engine for a 2.0.
    I’d be interested to see a K24 on the channel, especially one that has seen some mods or one of the DI ones. I’m sure at least a few have gotten blown up.

    • @martin-vv9lf
      @martin-vv9lf 4 місяці тому

      dohc is why the boxer is almost gone. they were more competitive in the past with a single cam. on the upside though, there's not as much cam twist like in a 6 or 8 cylinder. not as many blown head gaskets due to the short head not expanding and contracting as much.

  • @kabardink
    @kabardink 4 місяці тому +1

    Wiw💪🏻💪🏻👍 with this turbo this engine can easy take around 400whp! This turbo the same as mine on ej257

  • @downlevel
    @downlevel 4 місяці тому +4

    i love those fumoto drain valves. made oil changes so easy. never leaked a drop.

    • @albinklein7680
      @albinklein7680 4 місяці тому

      I will never get the point of those BS valves.

  • @cski12894
    @cski12894 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey! Stop 5X speed- up of redundant bolt removal. I need time to finish a 12 pack per video! 😅

  • @ekimbrough1413
    @ekimbrough1413 4 місяці тому +11

    Eric...now I know why they blow up! Nobody wants to tackle an oil change on that thing!

    • @Thatdavemarsh
      @Thatdavemarsh 4 місяці тому +1

      FA oil change is one of the easiest I’ve ever done. Drain is relatively easy to get to and the oil filter location is the gold standard.

    • @ekimbrough1413
      @ekimbrough1413 4 місяці тому

      @@Thatdavemarsh
      Yeah Dave, I spoke way to soon on that one: I saw the brass plug a little later on! It was the bottomside turbo that threw me! I didn't like the fact that Eric was trashing Subaru. If the engines fail in those cars: is that people don't take care, and do the maintenance on them like they're suppose to!
      I have a very high opinion of those cars!

  • @peted5217
    @peted5217 17 днів тому +1

    WRX's with LS Conversion run Excellent

  • @marathoner43
    @marathoner43 4 місяці тому +3

    As always Eric, a great Saturday night video. Thanks for my entertainment on a rainy Saturday night.

  • @brianallen9810
    @brianallen9810 4 місяці тому +1

    This thing reminds me ( just barely ) of an old VW engine made excessively complex and on steroids.

  • @mausball
    @mausball 4 місяці тому +16

    the "my buddy can do it cheaper" here was on full display.

  • @edsnack1181
    @edsnack1181 4 місяці тому +2

    How about breaking down a VW VR6, something distinctly different !

  • @TexasRoadrunner
    @TexasRoadrunner 4 місяці тому +4

    Hello from Texas. Love the videos

  • @spaight711
    @spaight711 4 місяці тому +1

    Garret is or was a Honeywell company. Couldn’t tell ya if that’s an OEM unit.

  • @chuckh.2227
    @chuckh.2227 4 місяці тому +3

    The inside of the oil pan looks like a Nevada silver mine

  • @infernoking7504
    @infernoking7504 4 місяці тому +1

    I cant with those engines exhaust directly next to oil pan plus turbo in front heat soak hell It will at least need to be a bigger pan plus big air fins and massive oil cooler

  • @dnlmachine4287
    @dnlmachine4287 4 місяці тому +32

    Part of the reason some engines blow up is they are attractive to wannabe tuner cheezebags. Certain cars I tell people never to buy - modded cars, cheap sports cars, trucks with Bro-Dozer makeovers, European....anything, cars that have the glue on "upgrade parts" listed in the ad including "Subs available for extra", cars with known bad engines or transmissions (GM 3.6, Kia, Nissan with CVT pattern failures etc.) Many performance cars, mostly those owned by a young person - HAVE been thrashed.
    Stay gold.

    • @buttsexandbananapeels
      @buttsexandbananapeels 4 місяці тому

      I’d especially never buy a used WRX unless it already comes with a blown engine and I have one ready to go in. For some reason, the people that wrench like Hellcat thieves drive gravitate towards WRX ownership.
      As for bro-dozers, you just have to wait until October when all the mods that were put on credit make the truck go into repo because they can’t pay for everything (or the insurance lapses) after tax refund checks get deposited.
      Plenty at auction from July to October for that reason, just like Nissans and Kias.
      All a very particular stereotypical buyer.

    • @HenrySomeone
      @HenrySomeone 4 місяці тому +4

      True, but Subies are plenty capable of blowing up even completely stock though... 😆😆

    • @xXturbo86Xx
      @xXturbo86Xx 4 місяці тому +4

      Only this isn't the case. And it's not the case with MANY blown engines. The main reason that engines blow up is either lack of maintenance or bad design. A combination of both is often the case with modern engines because manufacturers cut development and production costs. Especially Japanese ones.
      Good engines one the other hand survive even at the hands of clown tuners or even lack of maintenance and abuse. But they're extremely rare these days. God i miss the 90s....

    • @HenrySomeone
      @HenrySomeone 4 місяці тому +2

      @@xXturbo86Xx Precisely, being able to survive even sub-par maintainence is the greatest hallmark of a truly reliable engine. On the other hand, most Subie units (at least the turbo ones) blow up sooner or later even with very decent upkeep, lol. 😆

    • @drivewayhero
      @drivewayhero 4 місяці тому

      So take the bus basically

  • @upsidedowndog1256
    @upsidedowndog1256 4 місяці тому +21

    I applaud Subaru for the serviceability upgrades. The older versions that you tore down were just bizarre. I work on flat aircraft engines all of the time but they are almost lawnmowerish compared to flat automobile engines!

    • @brianspencer6397
      @brianspencer6397 4 місяці тому +3

      Probably because, like lawnmowers, the Lycomings and Continentals don't run above 2700RPM. Don't need high tech for that speed range.

    • @stephenw2992
      @stephenw2992 4 місяці тому

      The Subaru engine was originally an aircraft engine wasnt it? The early ones were pretty simple

    • @upsidedowndog1256
      @upsidedowndog1256 4 місяці тому +3

      @@stephenw2992
      I don't know for sure but the old Subarus I worked on the engines seemed too heavy and underpowered for aircraft use. I think there is an experimental engine based on the newer engines, though. I think it's called a Jabiru.

  • @theassetStu
    @theassetStu 4 місяці тому +3

    This doesn't feel good....

  • @Dialkyl
    @Dialkyl 4 місяці тому +1

    Watching these always makes me want snack pack pudding for some reason

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts 4 місяці тому +7

    43:14 ,that wasn't "craftsmanship " that was "Crapsmanshit" 💩👎 whoever was in there originally

  • @somith2329
    @somith2329 4 місяці тому +1

    That's Japanese writing,looks like genuine garret turbo

  • @daewooparts
    @daewooparts 4 місяці тому +6

    Bahahaha, remember blowing up my friends WRX engine after he asked me to drive him home after he drank too much ... the funny thing was that i asked him have you changed the oil after i told him the month before its very dirty & low on oil ......well he said no ,15 minutes later BOOM💥 it blew up & chunks of metal bouncing around, ended up going home by towtruck.....luckily for him i had a wrecked in the rear super low Subaru in the tow yard with a outstanding unpaid bill as it was driving uninsured....ended up selling him the entire engine & transmission, the bonus was it also had brand new dealer installed factory catalytic converters on it as well, so i got to scrap his old ones

  • @donQpublic
    @donQpublic 4 місяці тому +2

    H-6. The only Subie I will work on.. because it’s moms. I was waiting for “ I’m sure this would be easier in the car.”! 😂

  • @danieldouglas8268
    @danieldouglas8268 4 місяці тому +11

    Take a drink everytime he says “That oil has metal in it”😂

    • @battycowboy
      @battycowboy 4 місяці тому +4

      My liver is flipping you a bird oh look a second has appeared 😅

    • @thelonelywolf88
      @thelonelywolf88 4 місяці тому +2

      Or just "sparkles" in general lol

    • @rleger123
      @rleger123 4 місяці тому +1

      Forbidden glitter?

    • @robertslegers257
      @robertslegers257 4 місяці тому +2

      @@battycowboy I just sent my wife out for another case of beer.

    • @longlivethephoenix
      @longlivethephoenix 4 місяці тому

      Or "first thing we are going to do" or " next thing we are going to do"

  • @yourfriendben2
    @yourfriendben2 4 місяці тому +1

    I still think you need to do an Isuzu 6ve1/6vd1 !!!!!!!

  • @richilg1
    @richilg1 4 місяці тому +19

    Yaaaaay, finally my engine on the channel (not my actual engine, yet). I have a 2016 with 140K, original stock long block, has every mod you can imagine. I bought it brand new in 2015 and has been modded since first pulling it into my driveway. As with any other turbo engine, change and CHECK your oil more often than recommended and it'll serve you well. Also get a tune that suits your location/weather/seasons, the engine runs so much healthier when it's not running the stock tune, modded or not.

  • @PushyPawn
    @PushyPawn 4 місяці тому +1

    De-briss.. Is that the de-circumcision procedure?

  • @thereve
    @thereve 4 місяці тому +7

    Do a Honda Goldwing engine.

  • @rm25088
    @rm25088 4 місяці тому +1

    Some WRX bro had a good time with that thing. That is what happened to it.

  • @ryanwhittle6525
    @ryanwhittle6525 4 місяці тому +5

    When I worked at a garbage dump, the policy was if you were the first person to operate a vehicle for the day, you were REQUIRED to check oil, water and air pressure in tires. Then, whenever you got in a vehicle before you moved it, you checked the oil. Our equipment never failed.

  • @kimsndergaard973
    @kimsndergaard973 4 місяці тому +1

    Is that healthy for the oil that the exhaust manifold are so close to oilpan???

  • @ouch1011
    @ouch1011 4 місяці тому +4

    Ironically, the FA/FB engines are largely based off the EZ engines.
    I'm still convinced the vast majority of Subaru turbo engine failures are due to people modifying them without knowing what they're doing. Its very easy to turn up the boost, much more difficult to make the engine reliable after doing that, especially with the stock turbo and pre-turbo exhaust.

  • @ckm-mkc
    @ckm-mkc 4 місяці тому +1

    ViseGrip makes a special model (the Locking Wrench) just for removing rounded bolts. It has a V-shaped jaw. I don't use it often, but when you need it's a godsend.

  • @ekujoe6123
    @ekujoe6123 4 місяці тому +5

    Ford 3.4 SHO V8 cam break please