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Every time I see an old Nokia device, one thing I always say, how beautiful they were. It may not be the best in terms of performance but it was beautiful.
Another problem that no one seems to notice: it had no GPU. All screen content was rendered by the processor. The first iPhone already had a GPU for a smooth experience and 3D gaming. Even the Sony Ericsson W900i had an Nvidia GPU. With the Nokia X7, this problem was solved and it was smooth, but it was too late...
The N95 had a GPU (well, an FPU really) and the E51 didn't. However the E51 run 3D n-Gage games on par of better than the N95 simply because of a ~10% higher clockspeed (332 MHz vs 369 Mhz). Symbian was lousy with GPU support though, it was a derivative of EPOC that itself was little more than a DOS for ARM with a GUI API, it was a very basic, close to the metal OS. It was very well optimized because of this, it used very little RAM and for the most part very little CPU as well, but also because of this optimization it was very rigid in terms of what hardware it could use, and adding a proper 3D accelerated GPU would have been a huge undertaking and a rewrite of fundamental parts of the OS. It would have saved Nokia's bacon though, the effects rendered by the S60v5 were all calculated by the CPU and I remember many hacks that outright got rid of all the effects speeding up the OS considerably. The other problem with Nokia back in the day was that they _knew_ Symbian was very well optimized and used the fact for cost-saving, thanks to that they usually included half the amount of RAM any phone would realistically needed. "You think this flagship should have 256 MB? Naah, we are good, cut that in half, that was we save on hardware by means of software! We are geniuses!". They were not.
its rivals such as samsung i8910 omnia hd and sony ericsson satio had much faster processors and gpu in it also nokia still using outdated camera technology (5 mp meanwhile other manufacturers moved on to 8 and even 12 mp)
@@dallesamllhals9161 Semantics. Either you had a 2D card, or there was enough CPU headroom to draw graphics. Mobile phones, even of the 2009 vintage, do not have the headroom to software render everything smoothly and/or with acceptable power draw.
I can only imagine where Nokia would be now if they had focused on N900’s OS or Meego OS. Especially Meego as it was way ahead of its time not to mention N9 was extremely beautiful looking device.
N900 may have been beautiful in terms of design and GUI, but even when it came out, I didn't expect any kind of "revolution" from this device. It was still more of an internet tablet than a regular smartphone and its lack of vertical mode ultimately doomed this device for good. And its successor, Nokia N9, unfortunatelly came out too late to change anything. However, the platform itself was amazing back then and I truly believe if Nokia focused on it from the beginning, instead of continuing with Symbian on touchscreen devices, the history could have been written in different way...
I had the N500. It was a beast ahead of its time. Only held back by the lack of apps. If only Nokia didn't get a Trojan Horse as the CEO in the name of Stephen Elop
@@iciprysradim they didn't even need to focus that hard on dedicated apps for Maemo because it would run GTK apps just fine. Nokia could have easily sold this device as the ultimate portable computer if it actually ran computer software. MeeGo wasn't anywhere near ready yet, so that wouldn't have worked.
@@J.A.N.O.S I wouldn't say so, to me it is perfectly usable, it's fast and lasts me a day, altough I am currently using it as a secondary phone to watch videos.
@@darling_yext For me it's unusable. I got a bad motherboard on it. So I can't use camera. The worst is that even when I buy new motherboard, there is a Chance that it will be broken after short time too. I had old Nokia and Nokia 6, 8 and 9. But I switched to Google Pixel 6. Nokia was making good phones. But now Nokia makes phones that are good for incredible small part of people
I love the N series videos. I always wanted the N95 8gb, N96, and the N97. The N series will forever be my favorite line of phones ever, Sony Ericsson right behind. such gorgeous devices. if they made an LTE N series update like they have with the 6800 and such, I would daily drive it for sure. but for now I will stick with my blackberry keyone black edition, because it REALLY gives off modern N series vibes to me.
Well, my points of complaint to the N97 are (along with the SOC, storage and software issues you mentioned:- 1- The size of that screen with the size of the phone, they COULD have gone with a bigger screen. 2 - 3 row keyboard? Nope, should have gone with a more usable 4 row (as like the E7 demonstrated with the better 4 row) 3 - Capacitive touch screen capability. 🤔😒 😎🇬🇧
I loved my N97, except all the issues you mentioned. The FM transmitter was super cool for the time too. I ended up having the camera cover scratching issue, they asked me to send it in for repairs and sent it back still scratched. I think I ended up using it for a little more then fiddling with hacking android onto windows phones.
@@AbdullaZaki It has actually been launched, thought it is abit thick. It is called ASTRO SLIDE 5G, and is made by Planetcom. And there is a slightly similar phone called Pro1 X from fxtec.
My cousin had a black N97 back in the day, and I remember he never used much of the smart features. I never saw him use the built-in keyboard, except when the power slider broke and he would slide out the keyboard to wake it, then immediately slide it back in.
I never had N97, but I used N97 mini for few years, which in my opinion is better than N97. Incredable built quality. Sometimes I'm thinking about to buy just for the colleciton.
The N97 mini had most of the good things the N97 had, but without the critical memory flaw. It wasn't perfect, but it was a much better phone than the original
@@AbdullaZaki Yes, one of the main differences was the storage, but back in the day 8gb was more than enough, so for me its not so much big advantage for N97.
I would say only N9 in 2011 had some actual touchscreen interface that could compete with the likes of iPhone. N8 E7 with symbian was still pure garbage in terms of touchscreen user interface.
Totally agree. I’ve used all of them and I absolutely loved the N900. What a beautiful OS! I wish I had one. And I wish that would have been Nokia’s response to Android. Instead, they stuck with Symbian for waaay, waay too long. And while it was running great on non-touch devices, it was really bad on touch devices.
I had a n97 mini back in the day when it came out it was the best thing ever well untill the blackberry 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ 🤣😂🤣 I would definitely run another real qwerty buttons keyboard phone like that all day long (in android format obviously 😂😉🤗)
are we evolving ?? are our hands getting bigger ?? questions that came to my mind when you placed the phone along side one of nokia's latest smartphone
Nokia absolutely deserved what happened to them. From 2005-2008 they were basically using the same processor and/RAM for their flagships. I think management was probably the same guys currently responsible for Ferrari's F1 team strategies
I used to own this haha 😅, the design is really good, and the camera is high quality, but then the resistive touch screen sux, by that time its the rise of capacitive display, also the spex of this phone is really bad thats why it lags all the time. Later on i upgraded to HTC desire HD my very 1st android phone
i was gonna hate u saying n97 was a failure but then u said n97 mini fixed the issue and i had that one and had no complaint except after2 years of usage the glue became lose and the whole phone literally came apart
this phone had a lot of potential sadly, nokia's bad decisions ruined it and about the camera 5 mp, while it's decent, it's outdated for a flagship phone as nokia's rivals such as samsung and sony ericsson moved on to 8 mp and even 12 mp coming out soon later that year also vga video recording not top of the line anymore at the time again, its rivals moved on to D1 (720x480) and even hd 720p video recording
Nokia was better then the iPhone years ago I think everything was slow and crashy back then, it had a top camera big memory, no one really used the Internet that much then, and it was good at emailing, I'm sure it had a fm transmitter for the music we got off limewire 😃
We owned a Nokia 5800 before, and when I saw the scrolling on the N97, it was the same. Lags everywhere. There's also the randomness of single tap and double tap. Guess we know what phone was the basis of the OS.
It is true that if Nokia can bring the design of Nokia N97 to Nokia Android smartphones, it will be a breakthrough that makes Nokia fans more nostalgic, that is difficult but to do it is revolutionary.
@@AbdullaZaki cannt say no in 2022. the people have deeply entrenched in onscreen keyboard. the camera and hardware design language could still be explored
That was after Nokia shot themselves in the foot multiple times before they had any collaboration with microsoft. Nokia has a history of one bad decision after the other, which led to the microsoft saga
not real , i loved the Windows phones Not really, an android nokia just didn't have a right to exist (at the time) and i still like the windowsphones user interface. After all, Nokia ruined their reputation before then. Just look at how their system felt at a time when the I-phone 2 - 4 came onto the market. An iphone felt worlds better and could be used very intuitively. Ultimately, Microsoft was just too late with windows 8.1. Let's keep quiet about the system before that.
All up to modern day smartphones... Nokia N97 was THE BEST phone I've ever used and I must say I've had my fair share of a lot of Nokia's phone history since 1996, until I switched to an HTC Sensation XE Beats by DRE. N97 was not a rival to iPhone because of Symbian's limited abilities but still without a comparison it was a great phone. I still own it. I still adore the form of that phone. I'm missing the keyboard. I'm missing all the movies I've put in it's big (for then) memory. I loved that phone.
This damn phone cost me £500. It had 32mb of ram and would constantly crash, reboot and was a nightmare to use. In the end I went to iPhone and haven’t looked back. The Nokia N95 8GB in black was brilliant. Goodbye Nokia and after the N97 I vowed never to give Nokia a penny in future. I’ve gone from the iPhone 3GS to my current 11 pro. I still have nightmares over the N97!
I was in the same boat. I bought the N97 for over $800 and it was the phone that almost made me quit the brand entirely. But I'm glad I didn't because I got to try incredible devices like the N9 that came out a couple of years later.
I had Nokia N97, stunning design and had that “cool” aspect before phones became boring (any Apple/touch screen phone today) what killed this phone was also no applications. Everyone had iPhone, blackberry or android Facebook apps etc, Nokia.. was very slow with apps and getting them on phones
Nokia's Hardware 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 Nokia's Software 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻 but Nokia could have improved but too late for them but they tried but ended up in confusion like symbian, meego,asha, Nokia X Android,and lastly lumia windows.......
I absolutely remember this phone it's was my first almost smartphone when I was going to study in dubai, I had such a bad experience with the the phone I got a brake two weeks later returned the phone and paid 200 dollars and got my first real smartphone the HTC touch pro2 when HTC was the s***t
I beg to disagree with this idea of the N97. In my opinion, Nokia N97 was the Nokia Dream phone everyone was waiting for a looong time. Wayback, being the number 1 phone manufacturer, Nokia has always been fond of fragmentation of features in each model. No phone got everything...until Nokia N97. (Yup, both Nokia N95 or N96 is missing the Nokia communicator capabilities, and Nokia N97 brought just that!) Owning one myself during its release, i have to say i have never experienced any issues during my usage. The only complaint i have for N97 was its resisitive touchscreen(after being able to try a capacitive one). Thats it! But everything else was all topnotch! It wasn't a failure for me, tbh! But unfortunately, the real start of Nokia's downfall wasn't the N97, but NOT releasing N98 or N9X or N100(or whatever its gonna be called). A Windows Mobile OS running Nokia phone. During the time iPhone was still starting, Pocket PCs(O2 XDAs, HTC tytans,etc.) were the smartest phones. And with this, Sony Ericsson successfully released their Xperia X1. Everyone was waiting for Nokia's answer but in typical Nokia fashion they were too slow to respond. Even with the N8, it was like a far cry of a delaaaayed answer to iOS and Android. When they decided to get Windows phone 7 (w/first lumias), their death warrant was already signed. iOS was on top, Android was catching up, and Nokia is still stuck (w/ both app less OS) Symbian Anna or Windows phone 7. Nokia's problem has always been being too slow to respond to consumers (which iPhones and Androids easily delivered).
I think one of the reasons why the N97 for me was such a disaster (and it reviewed pretty badly in general) was that I had used an iPhone and knew the difference in user experience. Yes the N97 had soooooooooo many more features, but living with it was a horrible experience once you've tried the competition. Even Samsung released a much better flagship symbian touchscreen device which had none of the issues the N97 had, although without a keyboard. Nokia's problem was indeed being too slow. A part of that came down to incompetence and arrogance. Their management thought they were too big to fail and had a much bigger worldwide influence. They slept behind the wheel, and faced the consequences of that.
I had this phone and loved the keyboard. But it was so faulty, even my replacements didn't work. The side switches always broke off, and the haptics stopped working. Don't get me started on the terrible app store and software. But I loved the phone.
whoee my last nokia phone, i really love this tho, even wishing that they could make come back in android version (of course with a whole lot improvement since it 2022 already) i need those keyboard haha
I forgot my pass code! havent used it over 6 years! pls help! i tried the tricks on the internet and the forums didnt work. my pc can see the files in the phone i even format its storage but cannot choose other modes to reset the software and passcode
In those days, smartphone softwares were supposed to be hard to use. So they were all bad, but even among the bad ones, Microsoft was already the great one. They already had apps store to expand what the phone could do. Of course, I was talking about 2003-2005. By 2009, the world had seen iPhone and Android. Nokia had no chance. In 2009, even being a loyal Win Mobile fan myself, I had already switched to a Samsung Android phone.
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Every time I see an old Nokia device, one thing I always say, how beautiful they were. It may not be the best in terms of performance but it was beautiful.
Nokia always had the best designers. Its a reason I became a fan so many years ago :)
so do I.
I liked Nokia ever since but my N95 was was sold me... Still the best fone I ever used... 👌👌
@@AbdullaZaki Just like old Ferrari
@@AbdullaZaki best design but not many apps. that was it for me.. very less apps available in nokia app store.
Another problem that no one seems to notice: it had no GPU. All screen content was rendered by the processor. The first iPhone already had a GPU for a smooth experience and 3D gaming. Even the Sony Ericsson W900i
had an Nvidia GPU. With the Nokia X7, this problem was solved and it was smooth, but it was too late...
Well I had no GPU in my x86s before Nvidia Geforce (3dfx Voodoo 1 & 2 ≠ GPUs)
Very good point. The N8 also had a GPU so it was capable on paper of doing a lot more than the N97.
The N95 had a GPU (well, an FPU really) and the E51 didn't. However the E51 run 3D n-Gage games on par of better than the N95 simply because of a ~10% higher clockspeed (332 MHz vs 369 Mhz). Symbian was lousy with GPU support though, it was a derivative of EPOC that itself was little more than a DOS for ARM with a GUI API, it was a very basic, close to the metal OS. It was very well optimized because of this, it used very little RAM and for the most part very little CPU as well, but also because of this optimization it was very rigid in terms of what hardware it could use, and adding a proper 3D accelerated GPU would have been a huge undertaking and a rewrite of fundamental parts of the OS. It would have saved Nokia's bacon though, the effects rendered by the S60v5 were all calculated by the CPU and I remember many hacks that outright got rid of all the effects speeding up the OS considerably. The other problem with Nokia back in the day was that they _knew_ Symbian was very well optimized and used the fact for cost-saving, thanks to that they usually included half the amount of RAM any phone would realistically needed. "You think this flagship should have 256 MB? Naah, we are good, cut that in half, that was we save on hardware by means of software! We are geniuses!". They were not.
its rivals such as samsung i8910 omnia hd and sony ericsson satio had much faster processors and gpu in it
also nokia still using outdated camera technology (5 mp meanwhile other manufacturers moved on to 8 and even 12 mp)
@@dallesamllhals9161 Semantics. Either you had a 2D card, or there was enough CPU headroom to draw graphics. Mobile phones, even of the 2009 vintage, do not have the headroom to software render everything smoothly and/or with acceptable power draw.
I can only imagine where Nokia would be now if they had focused on N900’s OS or Meego OS. Especially Meego as it was way ahead of its time not to mention N9 was extremely beautiful looking device.
N900 may have been beautiful in terms of design and GUI, but even when it came out, I didn't expect any kind of "revolution" from this device. It was still more of an internet tablet than a regular smartphone and its lack of vertical mode ultimately doomed this device for good. And its successor, Nokia N9, unfortunatelly came out too late to change anything. However, the platform itself was amazing back then and I truly believe if Nokia focused on it from the beginning, instead of continuing with Symbian on touchscreen devices, the history could have been written in different way...
I had the N500. It was a beast ahead of its time. Only held back by the lack of apps.
If only Nokia didn't get a Trojan Horse as the CEO in the name of Stephen Elop
@@iciprysradim they didn't even need to focus that hard on dedicated apps for Maemo because it would run GTK apps just fine. Nokia could have easily sold this device as the ultimate portable computer if it actually ran computer software.
MeeGo wasn't anywhere near ready yet, so that wouldn't have worked.
The last Nokia i owned. Loved it ❤️🔥
The lumia was very good after this
2:33 - Wow, the camera samples really blew me away! Wasn't expecting such great photos from a phone from 14 years ago.
Did not know this device was poorly executed that it led to Nokia’s demise. If only they took Apple seriously instead of being complacent.
more like Google. They had the option to switch to Android but went for windows mobile instead.
Watching this on my Nokia 9 PureView.
Me too bro
I would too. But that phone is unusable. Thx Nokia that you don't care 🙂
@@J.A.N.O.S I wouldn't say so, to me it is perfectly usable, it's fast and lasts me a day, altough I am currently using it as a secondary phone to watch videos.
@@darling_yext For me it's unusable. I got a bad motherboard on it. So I can't use camera. The worst is that even when I buy new motherboard, there is a Chance that it will be broken after short time too. I had old Nokia and Nokia 6, 8 and 9. But I switched to Google Pixel 6. Nokia was making good phones. But now Nokia makes phones that are good for incredible small part of people
@@J.A.N.O.S Oh I get it, btw I just saw your name. Are you hungarian ?
I didn’t know it’s that bad. My father owned a N97 mini and I always thought he should’ve bought the original n97.
He got lucky by buying the mini which was a better phone :)
The late 2000’s-early 2010’s was when phones were super interesting & exciting
As a kid that time it was precious than diamonds.
I love the N series videos. I always wanted the N95 8gb, N96, and the N97. The N series will forever be my favorite line of phones ever, Sony Ericsson right behind. such gorgeous devices. if they made an LTE N series update like they have with the 6800 and such, I would daily drive it for sure. but for now I will stick with my blackberry keyone black edition, because it REALLY gives off modern N series vibes to me.
Nokia was the iPhone of its day and Motorola was the Samsung of its day
Well, my points of complaint to the N97 are (along with the SOC, storage and software issues you mentioned:-
1- The size of that screen with the size of the phone, they COULD have gone with a bigger screen.
2 - 3 row keyboard? Nope, should have gone with a more usable 4 row (as like the E7 demonstrated with the better 4 row)
3 - Capacitive touch screen capability.
🤔😒 😎🇬🇧
Seriously resistive touchscreens are terrible I could never go back to them once you use a capacitive touchscreen.
I loved my N97, except all the issues you mentioned. The FM transmitter was super cool for the time too. I ended up having the camera cover scratching issue, they asked me to send it in for repairs and sent it back still scratched. I think I ended up using it for a little more then fiddling with hacking android onto windows phones.
Sometimes I wish if I had Android OS running with N97 Design, and modern configuration of course 🤓
I would love to have that with me.
That would be quite cool :D
@@AbdullaZaki It has actually been launched, thought it is abit thick. It is called ASTRO SLIDE 5G, and is made by Planetcom. And there is a slightly similar phone called Pro1 X from fxtec.
@@halvardlund4782 what country is the company from?
Nokia and good processor!!! doesn't go well together
haha brand heritage
I have use only for Nokia i love you Nokia Nokia is my heart...
I had the 5530 XpressMusic way back and wasn’t really bothered by the UX quirks.
i have the 5300 xpressmusic, the LCD stays on white forever
For what it is, the 5530 was a good phone. The N97 was supposed to be an iPhone killer though, and for that I'm a lot more critical of it
My cousin had a black N97 back in the day, and I remember he never used much of the smart features. I never saw him use the built-in keyboard, except when the power slider broke and he would slide out the keyboard to wake it, then immediately slide it back in.
I never had N97, but I used N97 mini for few years, which in my opinion is better than N97. Incredable built quality. Sometimes I'm thinking about to buy just for the colleciton.
The N97 mini had most of the good things the N97 had, but without the critical memory flaw. It wasn't perfect, but it was a much better phone than the original
@@AbdullaZaki Yes, one of the main differences was the storage, but back in the day 8gb was more than enough, so for me its not so much big advantage for N97.
One reason why it failed: RESISTIVE TOUCHSCREEN
Nice device 👍
كان عندي N97 mini كان تطور جامد في وقته وفضلت استخدمه اربع سنين
I would say only N9 in 2011 had some actual touchscreen interface that could compete with the likes of iPhone. N8 E7 with symbian was still pure garbage in terms of touchscreen user interface.
I agree
In 2009 this phone was my dream
It's a good day when Mr. Abdulla uploads a Nokia video.
:D
Please do a video about nokia e52, e55, e75, e90, nokia 5700 and 5730.
Totally agree. I’ve used all of them and I absolutely loved the N900. What a beautiful OS! I wish I had one. And I wish that would have been Nokia’s response to Android. Instead, they stuck with Symbian for waaay, waay too long. And while it was running great on non-touch devices, it was really bad on touch devices.
I used symbian on my Nokia 5233 for more than 3 years and it was a great experience.
I had a n97 mini back in the day when it came out it was the best thing ever well untill the blackberry 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ 🤣😂🤣 I would definitely run another real qwerty buttons keyboard phone like that all day long (in android format obviously 😂😉🤗)
are we evolving ?? are our hands getting bigger ??
questions that came to my mind when you placed the phone along side one of nokia's latest smartphone
Haha, you would think we are. Its just a market trend of media consumption. Our phones today are like the TVs of old days but always with you.
I was a Nokia fan, I used X2, C3, E5, 5200, E72 and N8. They dissappointed me LOL, it'll be hard to go back coz they are very far behind.
This was my dream phone in 2010, I got one but it wasn’t with the flip keyboard
This was my second phone i had 😅
Nokia absolutely deserved what happened to them. From 2005-2008 they were basically using the same processor and/RAM for their flagships. I think management was probably the same guys currently responsible for Ferrari's F1 team strategies
I love the analogy with the ferrari F1 team. As a ferrari and Nokia fan, life is pain 😂
@@AbdullaZaki Dude! That's enough emotional damage to last a lifetime 🤦🏾♂️
@@Sfisoul I'm also an AC Milan fan, so its been a tough couple of years haha. But just like Milan, Nokia and Ferrari will make a comeback someday :p
I used to own this haha 😅, the design is really good, and the camera is high quality, but then the resistive touch screen sux, by that time its the rise of capacitive display, also the spex of this phone is really bad thats why it lags all the time. Later on i upgraded to HTC desire HD my very 1st android phone
Yeah that thing sucked... but OMG the design😍😍😍
agreed. It was a beautiful phone for its day
Any news about upcoming X21 model?
Just a bunch of rumours here and there.
Bro, you are the one and only true Nokia fan. #Respect
I recently got a N810 internet tablet. It's MAEMO OS works awesome. Never expected it to be this good.
the moment you said biggest disaster....you get a thumbs down straightaway!
i was gonna hate u saying n97 was a failure but then u said n97 mini fixed the issue and i had that one and had no complaint except after2 years of usage the glue became lose and the whole phone literally came apart
imagine you going home after 1 month and your wife asks you why you lost contact :
*my phone boot looped for 30 days*
Just N97 things lol
Nokia n9 was the true flagship no phone was like it at the time !
Great content Abdulla !!! keep posting ❤
Thank you 😁
I still have mi N97 somewhere… I did enjoy it before I bought an iPhone
that's what you get for building an Event driven os, it will lag and glitch even on decent hardware
I remember that I bought it than it was complete disaster , very slow and horrible touch
It destroyed Nokia back than
Yes, it was such a huge disappointment!
Th n97 had two versions right? One small and one big
Increase storage. Throw android in it.
Witness sales charts burst 💥
this phone had a lot of potential
sadly, nokia's bad decisions ruined it
and about the camera
5 mp, while it's decent, it's outdated for a flagship phone
as nokia's rivals such as samsung and sony ericsson moved on to 8 mp and even 12 mp coming out soon later that year
also vga video recording not top of the line anymore at the time
again, its rivals moved on to D1 (720x480) and even hd 720p video recording
This phone sucks so bad, I traded this to N86 way back then
Nokia was better then the iPhone years ago I think everything was slow and crashy back then, it had a top camera big memory, no one really used the Internet that much then, and it was good at emailing, I'm sure it had a fm transmitter for the music we got off limewire 😃
In terms of features and technical abilities the N97 was light years ahead of the iPhone. But user experience was so poor, it didn't matter :(
Can u give me this phone
We owned a Nokia 5800 before, and when I saw the scrolling on the N97, it was the same. Lags everywhere. There's also the randomness of single tap and double tap. Guess we know what phone was the basis of the OS.
I think the 5800 had a more stable experience, funny enough! But yeah, same terrible UX overall
am still using 5800xm lol. It just needs new battery every 3 months.
Watching in my nokia 8.1
Nice phone
It is true that if Nokia can bring the design of Nokia N97 to Nokia Android smartphones, it will be a breakthrough that makes Nokia fans more nostalgic, that is difficult but to do it is revolutionary.
Do you think people would still be interested in a phone with a physical keyboard?
@@AbdullaZaki cannt say no in 2022. the people have deeply entrenched in onscreen keyboard. the camera and hardware design language could still be explored
@@AbdullaZaki "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"
High key wish phone company would accommodate people who preferr a decent size screen with a keyboard in 2022
me too
I bought this phone when it came out. That shit cost me 700 dollars back then. I give it to my brother after 5 months of ownership.
It also cost me something more than that back then. What a terrible purchase overall.
Microsoft killed the Nokia brand name..
That was after Nokia shot themselves in the foot multiple times before they had any collaboration with microsoft. Nokia has a history of one bad decision after the other, which led to the microsoft saga
@@AbdullaZaki yeah, it's all coming back to me now, Nokia doing multi foot shots and Microsoft smelling the blood 🦈
not real , i loved the Windows phones Not really, an android nokia just didn't have a right to exist (at the time) and i still like the windowsphones user interface.
After all, Nokia ruined their reputation before then.
Just look at how their system felt at a time when the I-phone 2 - 4 came onto the market.
An iphone felt worlds better and could be used very intuitively.
Ultimately, Microsoft was just too late with windows 8.1.
Let's keep quiet about the system before that.
My first ever smartphone was the Nokia N95 (normal, not 8gb version) it was absolutely sick phone. Loved it to bits
IT was very good, i had that too.
It wasn't bad, I had one and I liked it a lot. Windows Symbian sucked but besides that is was very good.
Depends on your perspective. For me, the user experience almost ruined an otherwise really nice hardware
Asalamualaikum zaki.. nice video ❤
I loved this phone so much there was so much wrong but I swear I felt like the coolest kid in middleschool when I slid it open
I know the feeling :) Form factor was so cool for its time!
This is the Nokia phone that turned me off Nokia.
I remember a buddy having this and playing Galaxy on Fire on it, and i was Super Impressed that you could have a full space sim game on your phone.
is this the phone that had 32gb storage?
Yes
too much for 2009
@@erduson i´ll thing that was 50% of his price :-)
my old 7610 is the most beautiful design ever built by Nokia.
I have a video covering the 7610 :D
A Classic Form Factor Indeed...Sadly I Never Knew This Model Existed...
But now the fact is NOKIA X Series/Models of HMD Global are so very limited in Countries/Regions. 😭😭
it was dream phone for me......
Symbian on this phone was atrocious. Slow and laggy. This phone gave me nightmares way back.
Indeed, it was the worst Symbian experience I've personally had
@@AbdullaZaki i agree it looked nice and had a good quality build, sliding keyboard ect. But the software was 👎
What do u think if compared with N900...?
N900 was much better
Watching the video in my 3 year old Nokia 6.1 plus ❣️
I had a n97 mini back in the day
When's my 701? ;-P
When I can get one :)
@@AbdullaZaki Hmm, well! NOT giving you mine(Delight v1.1)
How to order now Bro
All up to modern day smartphones... Nokia N97 was THE BEST phone I've ever used and I must say I've had my fair share of a lot of Nokia's phone history since 1996, until I switched to an HTC Sensation XE Beats by DRE. N97 was not a rival to iPhone because of Symbian's limited abilities but still without a comparison it was a great phone. I still own it. I still adore the form of that phone. I'm missing the keyboard. I'm missing all the movies I've put in it's big (for then) memory. I loved that phone.
This damn phone cost me £500. It had 32mb of ram and would constantly crash, reboot and was a nightmare to use. In the end I went to iPhone and haven’t looked back. The Nokia N95 8GB in black was brilliant. Goodbye Nokia and after the N97 I vowed never to give Nokia a penny in future. I’ve gone from the iPhone 3GS to my current 11 pro. I still have nightmares over the N97!
I was in the same boat. I bought the N97 for over $800 and it was the phone that almost made me quit the brand entirely. But I'm glad I didn't because I got to try incredible devices like the N9 that came out a couple of years later.
My first phone was n97 and my brother owned n900.. i love n97 keyboard and camera the hinge still works perfectly to this day .
I had Nokia N97, stunning design and had that “cool” aspect before phones became boring (any Apple/touch screen phone today) what killed this phone was also no applications. Everyone had iPhone, blackberry or android Facebook apps etc, Nokia.. was very slow with apps and getting them on phones
Apps was one of many reasons, but good point :)
Nokia's Hardware 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Nokia's Software 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
but Nokia could have improved but too late for them but they tried but ended up in confusion like symbian, meego,asha, Nokia X Android,and lastly lumia windows.......
Symbian at the end was a real weakpoint. They had good software on the N900 and especially the N9.
This phone was my dream
But I couldn't buy it
I bought Nokia X6
Then Nokia C6-01
Both phones were outstanding and the last predecessors of Android
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I absolutely remember this phone it's was my first almost smartphone when I was going to study in dubai, I had such a bad experience with the the phone I got a brake two weeks later returned the phone and paid 200 dollars and got my first real smartphone the HTC touch pro2 when HTC was the s***t
The N97 was definitely a disaster that turned many people away from Nokia
I beg to disagree with this idea of the N97.
In my opinion, Nokia N97 was the Nokia Dream phone everyone was waiting for a looong time. Wayback, being the number 1 phone manufacturer, Nokia has always been fond of fragmentation of features in each model. No phone got everything...until Nokia N97. (Yup, both Nokia N95 or N96 is missing the Nokia communicator capabilities, and Nokia N97 brought just that!)
Owning one myself during its release, i have to say i have never experienced any issues during my usage. The only complaint i have for N97 was its resisitive touchscreen(after being able to try a capacitive one). Thats it! But everything else was all topnotch! It wasn't a failure for me, tbh!
But unfortunately, the real start of Nokia's downfall wasn't the N97, but NOT releasing N98 or N9X or N100(or whatever its gonna be called). A Windows Mobile OS running Nokia phone. During the time iPhone was still starting, Pocket PCs(O2 XDAs, HTC tytans,etc.) were the smartest phones. And with this, Sony Ericsson successfully released their Xperia X1. Everyone was waiting for Nokia's answer but in typical Nokia fashion they were too slow to respond. Even with the N8, it was like a far cry of a delaaaayed answer to iOS and Android. When they decided to get Windows phone 7 (w/first lumias), their death warrant was already signed. iOS was on top, Android was catching up, and Nokia is still stuck (w/ both app less OS) Symbian Anna or Windows phone 7.
Nokia's problem has always been being too slow to respond to consumers (which iPhones and Androids easily delivered).
I think one of the reasons why the N97 for me was such a disaster (and it reviewed pretty badly in general) was that I had used an iPhone and knew the difference in user experience. Yes the N97 had soooooooooo many more features, but living with it was a horrible experience once you've tried the competition. Even Samsung released a much better flagship symbian touchscreen device which had none of the issues the N97 had, although without a keyboard.
Nokia's problem was indeed being too slow. A part of that came down to incompetence and arrogance. Their management thought they were too big to fail and had a much bigger worldwide influence. They slept behind the wheel, and faced the consequences of that.
I had this phone and loved the keyboard. But it was so faulty, even my replacements didn't work. The side switches always broke off, and the haptics stopped working. Don't get me started on the terrible app store and software.
But I loved the phone.
nhd screen? Must stand for NOThd 😀
Haha true, but it was as good as it gets for the time. Almost of course
I've had the n97 mini and it will always be the most beautiful phone I've ever had. Either that or the n-gage QD ☺️
My first Smartphone 🥺 good old days
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Ahh!! My first smartphone.
My second was Iphone 4s and it was quantum leap in terms of first impressions.
My mom had this phone from 2011 until 2015 but the mini version.
It was so robust that it never broke, it fell down probably 500 times
500 times 💀
whoee my last nokia phone, i really love this tho, even wishing that they could make come back in android version (of course with a whole lot improvement since it 2022 already) i need those keyboard haha
I forgot my pass code! havent used it over 6 years! pls help! i tried the tricks on the internet and the forums didnt work. my pc can see the files in the phone i even format its storage but cannot choose other modes to reset the software and passcode
So would you recommend using this device now in 2022? I think the obvious answer here is absolutely not.
i really want to buy nokia flagship phone with latest snapdragon processor or mediatek dimensity, last phone i owned from nokia was nokia 8 sirocco
In those days, smartphone softwares were supposed to be hard to use. So they were all bad, but even among the bad ones, Microsoft was already the great one. They already had apps store to expand what the phone could do. Of course, I was talking about 2003-2005. By 2009, the world had seen iPhone and Android. Nokia had no chance. In 2009, even being a loyal Win Mobile fan myself, I had already switched to a Samsung Android phone.
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