its really sad, goverments want us all hearded into conventional homes like cattle, so they can get tax, makes me sad that you have to pay to live and eat on mother earth. What he is doing is amazing and i hope he can continue teaching skills that have been lost to concrete and bricks in forests that are dwindling to housing development. My dream to one day live in the forest self sustainable
It seems crazy hard to live like this in this country. I am a bit jealous of people in the states, they still have places of vast wilderness. Many of those from what I gather just up and go live in the wilderness for a time if they want. May not always be legal but a lot harder to get lost on purpose, and caught. I hate the UK sometimes, well the government mostly. In Sweden, some other Nordic countries maybe, they have rights to just wildcamp when they they want. All mans land/law something or other. Not exactly the same thing as setting up and living permenantly in alternative housing but still relates. Here it is so hard. Land is expensive, need a building this height, this material, this style...Too much.
Hellsconsort I respect that person living in the woods, but what does he do in winter, when it is freezing cold? Also, his two children were born in the woods. Childbirth is a difficult process (even though I have never had any children myself) and it seems that he helped his wife give birth unaided. What if any of his children needed oxygen at birth and, even if he did manage to get her to the hospital to give birth, what address did he write on a hospital form?
Great guy doing a great job in Mother Natures forest....and along comes the LAW waving a big stick. Hope you chaps don't give up. Your efforts are honorable.
very interesting video - i would love to build my own log cabin by a lake in the woods. it SHOULD be everymans right!! only the very wealthy can do this. things are going to have to change. good luck in the quest darren
Things will change dude, great channel btw. I'm going north to scotland in the next year or so with the intention of buying a cheap large (100+ acre) sitka plantation. with the intention of thinning and letting it go semi wild, then living as lowkey off grid as possible. It can be done, small communities can be built, not an easy life, but not stress like the rat race of the urban jungle.
Of course you should, its ridiculous. I think if you are chopping trees down or leaving the area a mess with litter etc then yeah that is unacceptable but the fact that you cannot live off grid legally n your own land is not good. The UK is not my future
I think we all have an instinct to live in the woods/in nature. Living in rows of terraced housing and council blocks is not natural. The fact you cant live on your own land in the UK is a joke.
Burocrats sure know how to take the wind out of the sails of anyone with non conventional ideas. Here in Germany that kind of living would be next to impossible as Brussels has rules for next to everything.
Legal legislation, what right do they have to say how you should live? it is your life,and not there's, sounds like bureaucratic bureaucrats are not getting the "correct sized envelope" dropped on there desks at the top echelons of the planning Dept: ( a bung ) They have got to justify there very existence at the council i suppose,another qwango Dept: just leached onto the council,has to show its Authority.(who voted these clowns in ,in the first place anyway?) oh,that's right ,the U.N the privately owned corporation that is owned by the Rothchilds . Every thing that you register,can be taken from you in a court of Law,if you don't play the game and pay tax on it,tax,tax,tax,tax,tax, and still nothing and no body can fix anything,but the ceo's get huge pay and bennefits,for doing exactly what?(belonging to the right club?) high up hootspa? what a load of pecker heads that lot are.
The only way this will change is if everyone gets together and campaigns for a change in planning regs. If you want to live without council tax though forget it, that will never happen.
What an amazing thing you are doing sir I take my hat off to you 👏👏👏👏 unfortunately it's all about us paying into a currupt system and living as they want us too 😠😠😠, I wish you all the very, very best in the future 👍, ❤️from 🏴 xx
yea but sadly the key legal issue is that it cannot be a structure for sleeping/dwelling/living in,,,, there are ways to work the loop holes e.g. "caravan" but even then you have a 28 day per year maximum use of the land, even if it's your land. uk law... www.woodlands.co.uk/owning-a-wood/woodlands-and-planning-legislation/
He doesn't need to give them any reason for why he wants to live there. The council has no right to demand anyone pay money or request permission for doing something they can lawfully do anyway.
you can generally only live in a woodland in a temporary structure e.g. tent/caravan for 28 days max per year, even if you own the woodland. uk law is a nightmare for woodland living
Sadly cherrywood is not owned by tim anymore, as there were personnel issues and nothing to with planning consent. Was a great project but just like other projects where people have integrated beautifully with nature the authorities have made life difficult and with an eco community in Devon called Stewart wood they have shut them down even after 10 years of conservation work!!- families moved and relocated. They simplify dont want people being sustainable. The government says it needs to cut down on carbon emissions but don't have a plan. 😵
Hi, I am a start up builder-constructor - private treaty - unsold auction fall back buyer. Needs a certain type of project. An acre/half/quarter roadside - Derelict building / large pile of old building stones - Or land to build a large pole barn for constructing tiny homes. Maybe work into a building plot too. Freehold no up use add on fees at all would be helpful. A bare bones - stand alone sort of workspace is better for me really. A Practical wood and metal worker since the age of 14 - school years, life conversant with a wide range of builder construction math - First and second fix carpentry - roofing, foundations - brick and block laying ,wall coatings and wiring work. A penchant for old stonework and heavy bespoke joinery..Thank you. Paul.
Hi Paul . I have an old pig unit with outline planning on it with all matters reserved . Its situated within a rural villages boundary . Maybe something you would be interested in . East Yorkshire area .
@@henagesud Hi, i can pay cash too if needed - avoid as many as you can from charges from ''people who don't even gets their hands dirty''. - details , Thanks. paulwarren1@live.com
@@paulwarren6105 Morning Will send you the planning number at some point today . Payed enough over the years to get the planning consent , quite happy to avoid the people you mention .
can someone please direct me to more such useful information, especially relating to regions in the UK that are more and less reasonable about sustainable non-traditional dwellings?
Guess it' better to buy a property with lot of land and get permission to build a lodge for dwelling purposes and THEN build up a forest around your land with all those permissions already given! Might take longer and cost more but it avoid future legalities.
Happily, this project has persisted ("Sustainable Living at Cherry Wood"), which suggests that government found a way to adapt policies to new uses. Watching the public's government-blaming response to natural-phenomenon flooding in UK in 2012 (plus the 'murican'-style antagonism in the comment section), I commiserate with those on both sides of the issue.
(2022) We should be fostering diversity of lifestyle and diversity of land use. Diversity is the greatest possible lesson to take from the natural world. Diversity is insurance, learning, experience, versatility, surprise, value, satisfaction, economy, change.
If possible run for office, crow-bar the existing committee out of office and replace them with decent and reasonable people like yourself - would take time, but would be worth it. You may find others in your community who agree with you.
If lived there 4 years you have planning not sure applies as you applied planing but if lived there no complaints many now live there after the 4 year period best luck
Oh, River Huntingdon, plenty is said about gipsies setting up camp wherever they like. I seem to recall a programme some years ago about a camp allocated to copies, which the gipsies overran and which created upset with the locals.
THIS EARTH BELONGS TO ALL! MATTHEW 5:5 JESUS SAID"BLESSED ARE THE MEEK FOR THEY SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH! I'M SAVING UP TO BUY A TINY PIECE OF WOODLAND FOR SOLICE,PEACE,HEALING,THERAPY,GENERAL LOOKING AFTER NATURE ETC YET THEY WHOEVER THEY ARE,WILL MOST PROBABLY SAY NO! GOD JUDGE YOU!😐
Every one wants to live in the woods, if you want to dig a hole in a bank like a badger then good on you but filling the woods with yurts , tents and human paraffanalia is really crap, your not thinking about our beautiful nature at all. The forestry commission manage thousands of acres of wood and they don’t have to live in it.
Nice lifestyle, I would like that myself but a Wood will look after itself. Doesn't need a care taker. To say otherwise is just an excuse for wanting to live on the woodland. It could be argued that you are interfering with nature by doing your woodland crafts there. Good luck anyway.
its really sad, goverments want us all hearded into conventional homes like cattle, so they can get tax, makes me sad that you have to pay to live and eat on mother earth. What he is doing is amazing and i hope he can continue teaching skills that have been lost to concrete and bricks in forests that are dwindling to housing development. My dream to one day live in the forest self sustainable
It seems crazy hard to live like this in this country. I am a bit jealous of people in the states, they still have places of vast wilderness. Many of those from what I gather just up and go live in the wilderness for a time if they want. May not always be legal but a lot harder to get lost on purpose, and caught. I hate the UK sometimes, well the government mostly. In Sweden, some other Nordic countries maybe, they have rights to just wildcamp when they they want. All mans land/law something or other. Not exactly the same thing as setting up and living permenantly in alternative housing but still relates. Here it is so hard. Land is expensive, need a building this height, this material, this style...Too much.
Hellsconsort I respect that person living in the woods, but what does he do in winter, when it is freezing cold?
Also, his two children were born in the woods. Childbirth is a difficult process (even though I have never had any children myself) and it seems that he helped his wife give birth unaided. What if any of his children needed oxygen at birth and, even if he did manage to get her to the hospital to give birth, what address did he write on a hospital form?
Marky Mark SOON WE WILL NEED TO LIVE OFF GRID! READ REV 13 RFID CHIP I BEG PEOPLE TO NOT TAKE ANY 'CHIP' IN OR ON THEIR BODIES!!🌍
If we didn't pay to live we would be dead we would be invaded and wiped out!
Well said 👍
The game is rigged against the average person.
Absolutely.
Great guy doing a great job in Mother Natures forest....and along comes the LAW waving a big stick. Hope you chaps don't give up. Your efforts are honorable.
very interesting video - i would love to build my own log cabin by a lake in the woods.
it SHOULD be everymans right!! only the very wealthy can do this.
things are going to have to change.
good luck in the quest
darren
Things will change dude, great channel btw. I'm going north to scotland in the next year or so with the intention of buying a cheap large (100+ acre) sitka plantation. with the intention of thinning and letting it go semi wild, then living as lowkey off grid as possible. It can be done, small communities can be built, not an easy life, but not stress like the rat race of the urban jungle.
@@dodo19923 well did you do it?
@@dodo19923 sounds nice, how is it now?
I think you should be able to buy a woodland and live in it as long as you're genuinely off grid and manage the land.
Of course you should, its ridiculous. I think if you are chopping trees down or leaving the area a mess with litter etc then yeah that is unacceptable but the fact that you cannot live off grid legally n your own land is not good. The UK is not my future
@@nickuk911 no these guys are not in poverty!
I think we all have an instinct to live in the woods/in nature. Living in rows of terraced housing and council blocks is not natural. The fact you cant live on your own land in the UK is a joke.
I have always wanted to live in the woods.
You got it absolutely right there sir the authorities want to keep us in nice little clean cut boxes
It’s fine for someone to buy land and place 30 houses on it but not for one Person to live in a caravan
They find it easy to say yes when they wish to build on green belt land. Double standards.
'The Good Life'. Keep up the struggle, it's worth it. Interesting chat. Would have been nice to see the yurt!
5 years later... is anyone going to give us an update, ever?
give us a second will ya?
Thanks for the feedback. Tim does raise some really interesting points.
So relevant today. Time for change .
Just build an underground base and dont tell them then they cant do nothing.
UkPrepper2016 Military/Survivalist GO TO DUMBS ON YT AND SEE WHAT THE GLOBAL ELITE ARE DOING! UNFAIR!😧
Burocrats sure know how to take the wind out of the sails of anyone with non conventional ideas.
Here in Germany that kind of living would be next to impossible as Brussels has rules for next to
everything.
Looks lovely and sustainable well done!
Legal legislation, what right do they have to say how you should live? it is your life,and not there's, sounds like bureaucratic bureaucrats are not getting the "correct sized envelope" dropped on there desks at the top echelons of the planning Dept: ( a bung ) They have got to justify there very existence at the council i suppose,another qwango Dept: just leached onto the council,has to show its Authority.(who voted these clowns in ,in the first place anyway?) oh,that's right ,the U.N the privately owned corporation that is owned by the Rothchilds . Every thing that you register,can be taken from you in a court of Law,if you don't play the game and pay tax on it,tax,tax,tax,tax,tax, and still nothing and no body can fix anything,but the ceo's get huge pay and bennefits,for doing exactly what?(belonging to the right club?) high up hootspa? what a load of pecker heads that lot are.
Social credit scores coming to a country near you and very soon . Can’t have a credit rating if you live in the forest !
The only way this will change is if everyone gets together and campaigns for a change in planning regs. If you want to live without council tax though forget it, that will never happen.
What an amazing thing you are doing sir I take my hat off to you 👏👏👏👏 unfortunately it's all about us paying into a currupt system and living as they want us too 😠😠😠, I wish you all the very, very best in the future 👍, ❤️from 🏴 xx
lovely job guys, keep it up
It’s up to him if he wants to build, what looks like a temporary structure, on his land.
yea but sadly the key legal issue is that it cannot be a structure for sleeping/dwelling/living in,,,, there are ways to work the loop holes e.g. "caravan" but even then you have a 28 day per year maximum use of the land, even if it's your land. uk law...
www.woodlands.co.uk/owning-a-wood/woodlands-and-planning-legislation/
any update on this story?
typical council want to monetise it.
Any follow-up on this?
Don’t give up Tim ❤️
He doesn't need to give them any reason for why he wants to live there. The council has no right to demand anyone pay money or request permission for doing something they can lawfully do anyway.
Phial Substance THAT'S CORRECT! THE COUNCILS ARE MOSTLY UNFAIR BIGOTS! IDE LOVE TO LIVE IN THE WOODLAND!🌳🌈
Yes they can, its called the law.
@@snowflakemelter1172 which law is that? he 'owns' the land.
@@gilesleggett Town and Country planning Act 1990
you can generally only live in a woodland in a temporary structure e.g. tent/caravan for 28 days max per year, even if you own the woodland. uk law is a nightmare for woodland living
Sadly cherrywood is not owned by tim anymore, as there were personnel issues and nothing to with planning consent. Was a great project but just like other projects where people have integrated beautifully with nature the authorities have made life difficult and with an eco community in Devon called Stewart wood they have shut them down even after 10 years of conservation work!!- families moved and relocated. They simplify dont want people being sustainable. The government says it needs to cut down on carbon emissions but don't have a plan. 😵
Tim was considering selling the woods he Tim is now back in the wood and still the owner of Cherrywood.
L
Power and control. Freedom to do good without some bureaucrats permission is not allowed.
If you buy a forest are you allowed to rename it? Couldn't find anything about this on google?
It seems that authority only exists to stifle creativity.
IF I hear the word SUSTAINABLE again I will scream the fucking house down...the most abused word ever...
😂😂👍
Hi, I am a start up builder-constructor - private treaty - unsold
auction fall back buyer. Needs a certain type of project. An
acre/half/quarter roadside - Derelict building / large pile of old
building stones - Or land to build a large pole barn for constructing
tiny homes. Maybe work into a building plot too. Freehold no up use add
on fees at all would be helpful. A bare bones - stand alone sort of
workspace is better for me really.
A Practical wood and metal worker
since the age of 14 - school years, life conversant with a wide range of
builder construction math -
First and second fix carpentry -
roofing, foundations - brick and block laying ,wall coatings and wiring
work. A penchant for old stonework and heavy bespoke joinery..Thank you.
Paul.
Hi Paul . I have an old pig unit with outline planning on it with all matters reserved . Its situated within a rural villages boundary . Maybe something you would be interested in . East Yorkshire area .
@@henagesud Hi, i can pay cash too if needed - avoid as many as you can from charges from ''people who don't even gets their hands dirty''. - details , Thanks. paulwarren1@live.com
@@paulwarren6105 Morning Will send you the planning number at some point today . Payed enough over the years to get the planning consent , quite happy to avoid the people you mention .
@@henagesud 500k ? Needs to leave that to a commercial property group. Too much and way over my start off budget. Thanks anyway.
can someone please direct me to more such useful information, especially relating to regions in the UK that are more and less reasonable about sustainable non-traditional dwellings?
have we an update?
Your living my Dream
whats the song at the end?
Which country?
Guess it' better to buy a property with lot of land and get permission to build a lodge for dwelling purposes and THEN build up a forest around your land with all those permissions already given! Might take longer and cost more but it avoid future legalities.
Any Updates ??? It's 2018 now.
Happily, this project has persisted ("Sustainable Living at Cherry Wood"), which suggests that government found a way to adapt policies to new uses. Watching the public's government-blaming response to natural-phenomenon flooding in UK in 2012 (plus the 'murican'-style antagonism in the comment section), I commiserate with those on both sides of the issue.
(2022) We should be fostering diversity of lifestyle and diversity of land use.
Diversity is the greatest possible lesson to take from the natural world.
Diversity is insurance, learning, experience, versatility, surprise, value, satisfaction, economy, change.
If possible run for office, crow-bar the existing committee out of office and replace them with decent and reasonable people like yourself - would take time, but would be worth it. You may find others in your community who agree with you.
If lived there 4 years you have planning not sure applies as you applied planing but if lived there no complaints many now live there after the 4 year period best luck
Bloody awesome
Top film, up another level with this edit xx
WE ARE THE PEOPLE , TIM YOU THA MAIN
Oh, River Huntingdon, plenty is said about gipsies setting up camp wherever they like. I seem to recall a programme some years ago about a camp allocated to copies, which the gipsies overran and which created upset with the locals.
Did you go back and find out how it went for this chap?
Down with Babylon
Should have gone for non-determination with PINS.
In the country of Robin Hood you can’t be a Robin Hood
These people are squatters- they want free land. Remember, this is PUBLIC land- your land.
so who's land is it in the first place?
Utter twaddle. He owns the land outright as any thicko who watched the video is well-aware.
If you had approached it differently it would have been different.
THIS EARTH BELONGS TO ALL! MATTHEW 5:5 JESUS SAID"BLESSED ARE THE MEEK FOR THEY SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH! I'M SAVING UP TO BUY A TINY PIECE OF WOODLAND FOR SOLICE,PEACE,HEALING,THERAPY,GENERAL LOOKING AFTER NATURE ETC YET THEY WHOEVER THEY ARE,WILL MOST PROBABLY SAY NO! GOD JUDGE YOU!😐
Every one wants to live in the woods, if you want to dig a hole in a bank like a badger then good on you but filling the woods with yurts , tents and human paraffanalia is really crap, your not thinking about our beautiful nature at all. The forestry commission manage thousands of acres of wood and they don’t have to live in it.
or, can i have this guy's email?
Being on youtube does'nt help your cause if you wanna be under the radar...LOL...surprise surprise the council are on the case..but good luck.
another toff
Hes not short of a bit of grub anyway
Look at common law ???????
Vote out of the EU.
We are now...
Nice lifestyle, I would like that myself but a Wood will look after itself. Doesn't need a care taker. To say otherwise is just an excuse for wanting to live on the woodland. It could be argued that you are interfering with nature by doing your woodland crafts there. Good luck anyway.
Welcome to the slave system