They will never admit defeat. But they are trying to do is sabotage whatever George Lucas is working on so that their projects look vindicated. The only way to restore Star Wars back to its former glory is to starve Disney of all income related to the IP. The only way to hurt them is through money.
It's his life's work, I imagined he would want to do at least one project before he's gone. He's also been married for over 10 years now and his youngest daughter is 10yo, so his personal life is also in a completely different stage than it was when he sold it to Disney
@@gabrielrangel956You should never believe a thing simply because you _want_ it to be true. Obviously though you are not about to be dissuaded and will likely be thinking Lucas will be back _any day now_ right up until he finally takes his dirt nap.
@@rector0455 I'm by no means saying he will definitely come back, I'm just pointing out Lucas is in a very different point in his life now than he was 12 years ago
@@gabrielrangel956I really doubt you're clued in even to George's personal life to be making these sorts of observations as anything other than wishful thinking my dude.
Its probably the same thing as always, he probably show up on set, takes a few pictures, talk with the director and leave. I would be really surprise if he's working on anything star wars
@@treystephens6166 He was, at least with the OT. He DIRECTED WROTE and played a role in editing episode 4, it's hard to be more hands on than that. He co-wrote episode 5 and ghost-directed a few scenes. He was described as being on set more and more as the production got more and more intense. Return of the Jedi he had SLIGHTLY less of a hand in writing but he still co-wrote it, and he took a yet BIGGER role in the direction. I'd say he was very hands on with the Original Trilogy
@@officialmonarchmusic George never wanted to write the story of Star Wars himself. The man isn't a writer and he's the first to admit this. That's why he authorized the creation of the EU.
if George is coming back the only reason I would even care is if the starting point is a full fresh start with a total retcon and rewrite to the Disney era films
This is the equivalent of bringing Harrison Ford back as Indiana Jones and expecting it to be the same as it was in the good ol' days. It's over, George isn't going to magically save the day and Star Wars even if the miracle of him being given full creative control somehow happened. Either somebody new will steer Star Wars in the right direction or it'll continue it's slow death.
@@CrazyxEnigma But really though, I have to add. The point is, that "Oh yah George may or may not be coming back" is hardly a resounding trumpeting of joy. Russel T. "NuWho Revival 2005" Davies return didn't exactly ring in as people hoped. So I didn't see much of a point going into any more detail than that. The people who get it, will get it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I think people took the comments a bit too far... having involvement in a star wars live action show could mean anything, not necessarily he is showrunning/writing/directing it.
It's because Theory couldn't help himself. He didn't stop to think... "Hey I am talking to a guy who is old AF and probably can't tell anymore if he's thinking of SW Underworld or Mando S1 or a future series."
Earlier in the interview, Roger mentioned that George wanted to do something that takes place way in the past. So if true, its possible he could help with the Mangold "Dawn of the Jedi" film.
My initial thought was that if this is true, it could explain why he supported Iger in the proxy war. But one would have to think that the other side would have gladly made similar promises to Lucas in return for his support.
Even if he comes back there's very little left to save. It would be like trying to resuscitate a person dead for 3 years. The window during which it is doable has long closed.
It felt good to see Theory on your channel. Would love to see your guys, and The Stupendous Wave, get together and make some content. Y'all the first guys I started watching on "UA-cam, Star Wars"
Roger Christian was also the director of Black Angel. For those who weren't around in 1980. Black Angel was a short movie that was released as an "intro" alongside Empire Strikes Back at the request of George Lucas. It's really good and worth checking out! You can see a lot of similar themes from the cave scene on Dagobah along with the concept of the hero's journey. Cool stuff! MTFBWY!
Seriously doubt it. If selling Starwars was like a divorce then doing a show now would be the drunken text at 2 AM. I just think he's a bit too classy for that
Even if he does, he’s nearly 80 years old, and wouldn’t have creative control. He’ll have to work within Lucasfilm and Disneys criteria and their ST era canon. I wouldn’t be excited even if he does. He shows up on sets all the time like said here, which isn’t the same as being involved in the creative projects. The franchise is too far gone to really make a turn around. They had a chance with the Mandalorian and live action shows but fumbled the ball.
"Strong suspiction" Well supposedly Lucas is/was an external consultant that no one ask for his opinion, except Fravreau and Filoni and not regularly I really don't think they are going to bring him back to work, this is a rumor that doesn't add anything that can change current Disney's Star Wars
Nostalgia Critic once mocked those who don't like changes. Well, sometimes changes are not for good. I'm not sure, what kind of a creative person Lucas is now, since there were already questions about it in times of prequels, in times of TCW'08, and in times of selling LF.
George has done that with most shows, i.e jon favearu shows, i call those sit ins and boosts morale... he never seemed to do a sit in for anyof the movies. Think about that, if we dont see him in any of mando season4 i have a bleak outlook. That's why i think mando 1 and 2 did well, but i never saw pictures of him in season 3...
I think you're right. Heck, I could see Dave consulting directly with George regarding Season 2. My dream would be that he outlines what the next era of Star Wars post-Rey movie would be. That would be very cool.
I've always believed Filoni and George talk all the time about the future of Star Wars and the projects Filoni is doing. It seems to me Filoni is always keeping George in mind and with his some what new position might have wanted George to finish his sequel trilogy he was going to do going into the micro verse of Star Wars but instead of making it a movie doing it in a series on Disney+.
1. Roger Christian did a blunder and outed something he wasn’t supposed to and then tried to course corrected by saying “I have heard or read” 2. Roger Christian read something on the internet saying George Lucas is coming back. I’m sorry to say but bear in mind that older people tend to believe anything they read on the internet 😢
If he even does 1. He’s pretty damn old at this point 2. What is there really worth saving? Disney did a wonderful job in diluting the franchise to be that of some trash tv you’d see on sci fi channel or CW. I would have no problem if tomorrow they announced that Star Wars was officially vaulted away and reduced to being only merch. No one should helm it, let’s move on with other ideas in all honesty even if those new stories or concept do borrow some aspects.
George is mostly good at world building, but that's mostly it. The reason star wars is the way it is is because of the people around him. People will act as if he did every single thing by himself and everyone else is trying to take credit, but he has issues regarding story and dialogue sometimes and isn't the best director. Not that disney is better, because what they did is way worse. Legends is where a lot of the really good stories came from and movies should be made from those.
I mean, every movie was good because of people around the director or writer. You can't make a movie alone. I think it's more than an exaggeration to call Lucas's successes in spite of him, or only with a bunch of specific people, but most of it is post-prequel revisionist history by the hater crowd
@@officialmonarchmusic In a way yes. But it also depends on how much control they have over it. Empire and Return wasn't even directed by him and he had someone helping the screenplay and New Hope was edited pretty heavily and almost felt like a different movie. Prequels however, he had a lot more control over it..
@@Yabuturtle See? Here's what I mean. This whole "edited heavily" business. I'd argue the editing process was relatively inconsequential, but if you're going to try and go that route, Empire was edited (And reshot) even more heavily. The budget was ballooning, and Lucas had to step in to fix it through these reshoots. He also always played a huge role in the editing process. I don't think he had much more control over the prequels. He had pretty much control to begin with. He also did have a co-writer on AOTC I believe (Don't quote me on that last one)
@@officialmonarchmusic New Hope definitely had some editing done. Editing is very important and can really make or break a movie. He did have some more control over the prequels, but he also had less people challenging him on stuff, as he was not working with the same crew, and there were some key points in a new hope that he wanted to add in originally, but they were taken out.
Sounds like Rodger heard about George hanging out with Filoni on the set of Mando/Ahsoka (whether in the past or advising him here and there for the upcoming movie/season) and misconstrued it as him returning/being heavily involved.
Erm Roger Christian also directed a little sci fi movie called - "Battlefield Earth" and he's like 80yrs old now, so I wonder just how "credible" he actually is. I'm not falling for this like starwars theory and many other fans undoubtedly will. Do we really think Disney are going to allow George Lucas anykind of creative control on his own Starwars project!? this is all set up, it's Bob Iger calling Lucas in a advisory role and most like out of desperation, cause deep down Bob knows his company (and Kennedy) have ran this beloved IP into the ground. He needs Lucas's name attached to try and drum up anykind of hype.
Even if that turncoat really came back to make new Star Wars stuff, what good would it do? He endorsed Disney and praised their work, so there's no reason to expect he'd do better.
Let's just play with the idea that he is coming back (my skeptism is through the stratosphere). Why is he coming back at all? Either he saw something that he randomly got interested in or he feels like this a story that he wants to help tell. Since we can't predict if the first is true, let's assume that it's a story that he feels the need to involve himself in. Now, it has to be a Live action TV show and one that's already in planning or production. I just don't see him feeling the need to involve in projects like BOBF, Mandalorian, Acolyte, or anything revolving around the sequels. I could possibly see him doing something for an Obi-Wan Kenobi S2, particularly if Obi-Wan was going to undergo Force ghost training. However, I think there's two more likely options: 1. Ahsoka S2 = My reasons are basically the same as Thor's (Mortis, nature of the Force, etc). I will tack on that the old EU had the Chosen Prophecy descending from Mortis and any exploration of the Mortis Gods could involve exploration into the Chosen One. 2. DOTJ show = I can see alongside the DOTJ movie, Disney deciding to double down on the era with a huge multimedia campaign, including a Live action show. And a show exploring the very birth of the Jedi and the birth of the Galactic Republic would be something Lucas would feel the need to involve himself in, with stuff like the Whills. This is random speculation, but I have a feeling that Lucas's ideas of the era is very different from what we got from EU. Plus, having Lucas be involved in the creation of the DOTJ era would give Disney some supposed legitimacy.
Hi! It's good to hear you again. I think you're right. If George Lucas was coming back to showrun a series, that would be HUGE news and Disney would definitely want to break it in their own way. It wouldn't be casually revealed by someone not really involved. It's possible that Lucas is just really interested in Season Two of Ahsoka. Like he's not involved in an official way, but he comes to their meetings because he's intrigued by the story they're telling. And of course if Lucas was going to hang around anyone's set, Dave Filoni is probably the friendliest choice. He probably knows all the people there already.
Not headlining but certainly for creative input. Put it this way. I imagine within Two decades George will be one with the Force. Before then, let George give input if he has any and let's make positive progress in the story. There's still a chance to explore the universe with him before the rest of us are sharing in a moment of remembrance. I want to see the story continue, I'm worried that years from now they'll just be remaking the trilogies.
Hey Thor. Do you think that if George Lucas did come back, it wouldn't make much difference either way? Putting out hit pieces on Star Wars has made a lot of money for quite a few content creators over the last decade so I could imagine that no matter what he did, it still wouldnt be good enough for the channels that rely on pop culture negativity. These channels do have a lot of subscribers after all. Interested to hear your thoughts.
I hope he is back and kick some ass, but I think it is hype or a rumor to try to boost the Acolyte and he will fade into the background. I do not Iger or KK would him DO anything.
As you said before...he's 80 years old, has a new family.. I think he's done with star wars. When you look back, he said he was done after return of the jedi.
Hope hes there for tying the script/history up - if he revealed jar jar was plagueis and snoke was a plagueis possessed vader clone, he’d make everything well again
It can be Ahsoka s2 of course. But what if the rumored series with Luke and Grogu will com to fruition, the one that didn't happen cause Katheen or Dave sent Grogu back to Din. Or maybe Jon will bring Luke into his movie, George might wanna be involved in that. And it can also just be a rumour
If George comes back to have a significant hand in a Star Wars project it would be the first thing since TCW that I could truly consider to be canon. I’m not going to get my hopes up though.
Maybe he would come in and help Dave Filoni with an animated Clone Rebellion series. They did do the Clone Wars series together, I can see that happening after the Bad Batch
I can see George coming back as a creative consultant for new projects. If he wants to direct something also, they should let him direct. Even though he's about 80 years old, there are directors that are old and still directing. For example, George Miller is still directing (79 years old, directing Furiosa) and Clint Eastwood (93 years old). I think it's great news if he comes back. I bet him and Iger talked about what happened after George sold Lucasfilm to Disney. Maybe after discussions George will now have more control and input about upcoming projects
I hope he comes back to write a series that completely bashes the fundamental idea of Star Wars and essentially ridicules the entire fandom for liking it in the first place. And I hope he brings Lana Wachowski onboard to co-write and co-direct it 😂
Maybe the decade George has had away from having a major part of a Star Wars project has been enough to fully re-energize his enthusiasm for doing it again l. But.. the source was from a video from Star Wars Theory and that guy is really weird so idk. And it most likely is just speculation like how Thomas Haden Church has said he “thinks” Sony wants to do a new Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movie.
The problem isn't star wars lore. It's decent storytelling. George is a visionary, but his strong points are more in both the grand scale universe building and in the logistical aspects of merchandising and directing/producing (the latter can be nit-picked apart, but it's the general idea that counts). He had so much assistance with putting together the various elements of the originals, and also he was correct to keep the hands of big studios off his work as much as possible. Disney's problem isn't with the lore, nor is it with the universe (George already set that up). It's that instead of chasing a passionately told story first & foremost, they are instead prioritizing profits and THEN shoehorning whatever stories they can into their predetermined production schedules. George still had to meet deadlines (and they caused him a lot of stress), but the difference is that he still retained a lot of creative control WHICH he allowed to be positively influenced by those around him (especially Marcia). Imagine taking a Tarantino movie in production and scrambling it around with this and that. You'll get NEITHER a Tarantino movie nor your own vision. You'll get some weird half-measure of each which fulfills no real purpose. Yet Disney keeps trying to force this model to work, taking good ingredients (actors, directors, etc) and mangling up their processes. The studios are in a paradox where they MUST manage risk, yet real art is risky.
According to Lucas: “Creating magic is not for amateurs. When I sold Lucasfilm just over a decade ago, I was delighted to become a Disney shareholder because of my long-time admiration for its iconic brand and Bob Iger’s leadership. When Bob recently returned to the company during a difficult time, I was relieved. No one knows Disney better. I remain a significant shareholder because I have full faith and confidence in the power of Disney and Bob’s track record of driving long-term value. I have voted all of my shares for Disney’s 12 directors and urge other shareholders to do the same.” ...So I wouldn't get excited. Unless you're a masochist. 🤷♂
If season two of Ahsoka has Baylan reach some center of the Force, keepers of the Force, historian of the Force, or whatever, and encountering a new character, it would be a perfect spot for a George Lucas cameo.
Have you ever been in direct contact with Star Wars Theory? I think you should be a guest on one of his live streams. I think he'd love to have you. You both have mixed feelings about Disney Star Wars. Whereas most seem to either love everything or hate everything. I think it would be a good discussion.
Hey Thor, what do you think about star wars theory? He is the biggest star wars channel after all (not counting the official sw channel), and he is an important figure here in yt when it comes to sw. I'd love to hear your take! Keep up the great work
I gotta admit... classic George Lucas SW would be great to see,but i can't help to believe that 1. it's not happening and 2....i don't think I want him to,unless he was capable of that old magic (OT or Prequels),but i feel like he'd help promote the professional victims just as much as disney is already doing,the reason i feel that way is bc in the proxy fight, whether ya like or hate Peltz inherently or not,he wasn't gonna let disney keep making propaganda for either side and would have gotten back to making money, that's what the investors would have expected or he'd be out very quickly after all that public shaming of Iger,only to fail himself,so i feel like he'd pull through, George on the other hand...i feel like will "yes man" Iger's backside into oblivion,ik some may hate i say that but believe me,i don't want to think that way at all...but recent actions kinda point in that direction, unless he voted for Bob bc disney is making the correct changes n also letting him contribute.... we'll see if any of this is true n what happens i guess
Hey Thor, I’m curious: if George Lucas has been showing on set for most of the Disney+ shows, would that technically mean those shows have his proverbial “stamp of approval?” I know he’s not in charge of Star Wars anymore, but it would seem weird to have him there if the directing team didn’t respect his input and vision at least a little.
Could we finally be getting Underworld? With the end of the Bad Batch, the Clones story with Senator Chuchi, and bounty hunters could be exploitable... and last time he explained why it was dropped, didnt he say it was technologically complicated...? May be this is now so easy with the volume and AI?
Is this all based on a hunch from Roger Christianson? You can't be serious. Look, I know we all want new, "good" Star Wars content. Something that shows just how silly Kenobi, Ahsoka, BoBF and yes - Mandalorian are. We, or "they", or both look to the next best director or writer, who's popular or who's in the know, or point to content in the EU or games, as if something, ANYTHING, will bring the shine back to our beloved franchise. And then there's George, on the perpetual horizon as some sort of savior. Thing is... Just what do you/we think he can really do? Be honest. I suggest that fandom has never been more polarized than what we're experiencing now. Do you/we really think that whatever he may create will somehow unite fandom under a universally accepted story/characters/timeline put forth by Lucas? Seriously, I'd love nothing more. But it ain't going to happen. The biggest thing Star Wars needs, is a long break. Years. Yes, years. Years of no new series, no movies, no MAJOR content. Games, comics, novels (you know, like how the old EU kind of worked) could still push forward, even some animated anthologies. But Dave the big stuff, hold off and quit trying so damn hard. I know that's not what's going to happen, but it needs to. And let Lucas be, he's already done his time, made his mark in our hearts and minds. Throwing him back in the fire to placate whoever is just selfish.
Tbh if I were George I’d tell them to get bent for all the BS they’ve caused but you never know. I just hope Star Wars is done right before George’s time is up.
If Lucas, by any chance, does take charge again, he has my sympathy. I've already seen fans curse his name for siding with Disney and being one of its shareholders. Not too long ago, people were praising Filoni and Favreau, only to now curse their names, too. If Lucas has creative control again, history will repeat itself, and people will hate him like they did for the prequels and special additions.
I don’t think George should take the bait unless he has 100% control over whatever project he works on, right down to the staff and riders. I know for a fact Disney is just trying to destroy his legacy like they destroyed the legacy of Luke Skywalker.
@@londonarbuckle8601 believe what you want, but the fact is if Lucas does come back in any capacity, he'll just be victim to 'fan' hate just like he was when he made the prequels.
I think most of the people bashing him for that don't understand the situation. All they heard was that he was "betraying the fans" and saying Bob Iger did a good job with Star Wars. When in actuality, he was just trying to protect Disney from a corporate raider, who, no matter how bad Iger is, would probably have just made things worse
That's why I'm such a vigorous proponent of continuing the EU as Legends, whether creating new stories that HONOR, not break, the continuity, or adapting the stories we already have into animated features, faithfully, while also not breaking continuity and adding meaningless changes to the source material, like Filoni does. Because in our universe, Luke succeeds in rebuilding the Jedi and lays down roots with the next generation. It's an overall positive direction, despite some hardships here and there.
@@DM5550Z Just because it's not likely given Lucasfilm's stubborn and callous management attitudes doesn't mean we should EVER stop fighting for it. That's when _they_ win.
Who cares unless they’re going to wipe away the Disney Star Wars by saying it was legends or something? Retconning isn’t going to fix what they did and it would have to be some MAJOR reconning anyway
Here's what i think (haven't watched the whole video yet), but when George backed Bob Iger a few weeks ago, i would highly doubt it was without conditions.
Hey Thor, I get that there are people who don't like midichlorions, saying they apparently break the universe and ruin the force. Some say they don't like the idea that not everyone can use the Force and that it all it should take is for you to believe in it. I've been thinking on that for a while and personally, I can't stand the idea that literally anyone can use the Force for a number of reasons. The first is my biggest issue with this idea and that is the massive plot hole this could cause, arguably one bigger than the holdo manuver. If everyone has the potential to use the force, then why don't we see more Force users than just the jedi and sith? Why don't we see bounty hunters use it, or why don't vader or the emperor train their military to use the force? Instead of manufacturing a clone army, why didn't the jedi train regular people to use the force against battle droids? I'd argue that would give them pretty good odds. Also, instead of thousands of jedi, why aren't there millions? Another reason is that I feel this undermines the importance of the jedi. I know you don't want jedi to become superheroes, and believe me, I don't either, but one attribute they have that can apply to the jedi is that the reason they stand up to great evils or a major threat is because no one else can. If everyone has the capability of becoming a Force user, why do they even need the jedi? Why even protect a galaxy when it can protect itself. It also makes the jedi seem selfish for not sharing this power with other people so they won't need them anymore. It could've been done a thousand generations ago and it probably would have prevented conflicts or prepare people for them. The last reason is that I find it less spiritually meaningful. Imagine the honor and privilege of being gifted a power most people don't have. By making it accessible to everyone you essentially water it down and it becomes less special. It's what syndrome said in the incredibles, "If everyone's super, no one will be." Overall, I find "you don't choose the force, the force chooses you" more meaningful than "you get the force, you get the force, and you get the force." Plus, with this I think you can make a pretty interesting dynamic between the jedi and sith. The jedi believe that because the force chose them, that gives them a sense of responsibility to protect the galaxy and safeguard the peace, whereas the sith have a sense of entitlement, seeing themselves above others and that because the force chose them, that makes them the rightful rullers of the galaxy. It plays perfectly into the theme of selfless vs selfish. I also want to say that by having force users be a minority in a galaxy if trillions, it better explains why han didn't believe in the force. Darth bane believed that tales of the jedi were greatly exaggerated and were the stuff of legend, which is pretty easy to assume if most people can't use the force. Before I end this comment, I want to say yes, I am aware of the 'karate' quote that George Lucas said in 1983. But, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think he has said anything else to support this idea since. I think it's more likely that he may have changed his mind overtime, because the prequels seem to contradict this idea. Where I stand is, if it was said a long time before the rest of the story was finished and it didn't make it into the final product as a whole, then it can be disregarded. Overall, thoughts?
I don't think Lucas meant it the same way as Filoni or maybe even Thor thinks he did. Midichlorians are completely fine and don't contradict anything, in fact, I'd say they are good, because they eliminate the idea that force power is genetic or runs in families. (JJ Abrams inevitably didn't understand that, and Rian Johnson understood it, but he thought we were all idiots who didn't understand that, so felt the need to patronizingly explain it) I don't hate Filoni completely but he does NOT understand the force either
@@guilhermepupo2840The force can manifest kn several family members, but that doesn’t equate to power levels. Master Yoda and the Emperor, not to mention all the Jedi, were just children of ordinary people
Sure, I'll bite. I think it's wise for LFL to welcome back George Lucas. I love the idea of George getting a chance to shape SW storytelling again. I hope he's well, I hope he's eager to come back and I hope he can put some gravity back into the stories.
Hey Thor. Someone told me that Karen Traviss is to blame for the negative image of Jedi in the fandom. So, as a casual fan (who hasn't read these books), I'm very curious what you think about this one. Thanks.
You know it makes me wonder why we’re even concerned about rumors when we really should be focused on decommissioning the entire continuity of Disney Star Wars.
Yeah I highly doubt that George Lucas will do more Star Wars projects. He has expressed multiple times that he has moved on, he is working on his museum, he is doing his own experimental films, probably chilling with the family etc. Again just like Thor said, I am not against this idea either, I LOVE all the 6 films George did. I just realistically don't see it happening.
Hi Thor, I just thought about this with him supporting Iger inbthe proxy war. What if the price Iger had to pay, for that support was that George was given the possibility to make his sequels in a series format?
I haven't been following "Star Wars" content much after The Last Jedi however I would give something a watch that George Lucas had a significant roll in creating.
I hope this doesn't happen. Lucas has a spotty record, what with the prequels being not-that-great (viewed positively in the rear-view mirror against the backdrop of the positively dreadful sequels and D-plus shows). His sequel treatment, from what I've read, is thoroughly ridiculous, focusing on the Whills. Lucas needs an editor to help narrow and fine-tune his vision. Disney does not have the ability to do that. It would be even more dysfunctional than it already is.
Somehow George Lucas returned.
"Don't. Don't give me hope."
You really had to reference the sequel trilogy, the worst trilogy in the history of moviemaking
@@daviddyster4145OK I think that's a bit of a stretch...
@@abthedragon4921 why?
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Putting George back as head of a project would be the closest we’d ever get to Disney admitting defeat.
They will never admit defeat. But they are trying to do is sabotage whatever George Lucas is working on so that their projects look vindicated. The only way to restore Star Wars back to its former glory is to starve Disney of all income related to the IP. The only way to hurt them is through money.
I don't cate about Disney... if George is coming back that would be the biggest Star Wars news since 2012!!!!
@@mdgarciasa”GEORGE LUCAS RAPED MY CHILDHOOD”.
Don’t pretend that was never a saying amongst the fandom at one time you fake fucking fans.
It's Disney admitting they're desperate at this point.
if he were to come back AND he's writing! That would be hilarious. The cope his apologists would have if its bad would be SO satisfying.
The man is 80 years old, he wouldn’t be coming back in any meaningful way, let him rest.
It's his life's work, I imagined he would want to do at least one project before he's gone. He's also been married for over 10 years now and his youngest daughter is 10yo, so his personal life is also in a completely different stage than it was when he sold it to Disney
@@gabrielrangel956You should never believe a thing simply because you _want_ it to be true.
Obviously though you are not about to be dissuaded and will likely be thinking Lucas will be back _any day now_ right up until he finally takes his dirt nap.
@@rector0455 I'm by no means saying he will definitely come back, I'm just pointing out Lucas is in a very different point in his life now than he was 12 years ago
@@gabrielrangel956I really doubt you're clued in even to George's personal life to be making these sorts of observations as anything other than wishful thinking my dude.
@@rector0455 I made objective statements based addressing the reasons why he claimed he sold Star Wars
No way!
I’ll believe it when I see it
Thank You
And when he's not Disney's lapdog
Its probably the same thing as always, he probably show up on set, takes a few pictures, talk with the director and leave. I would be really surprise if he's working on anything star wars
He wasn’t even hands on with the Original Trilogy or Indiana Jones.
@@treystephens6166 He was, at least with the OT. He DIRECTED WROTE and played a role in editing episode 4, it's hard to be more hands on than that. He co-wrote episode 5 and ghost-directed a few scenes. He was described as being on set more and more as the production got more and more intense. Return of the Jedi he had SLIGHTLY less of a hand in writing but he still co-wrote it, and he took a yet BIGGER role in the direction. I'd say he was very hands on with the Original Trilogy
@@officialmonarchmusic George never wanted to write the story of Star Wars himself. The man isn't a writer and he's the first to admit this. That's why he authorized the creation of the EU.
@@officialmonarchmusic well, he decided to take the Toy 🧸 Salesman approach with Episode VI.
@@saberiandream316 Source?
if George is coming back the only reason I would even care is if the starting point is a full fresh start with a total retcon and rewrite to the Disney era films
It’s forever too late for a Sequel Trilogy. Should have been done in the 1990s.
True + based
One can wish. And also use the non-existent source material, EU novels
except for Rogue One, and perhaps Solo
George literally showing up on screen and saying 'Yeah....fuck this.'
Then Thanos snaps Disney Star Wars out of existence
This is the equivalent of bringing Harrison Ford back as Indiana Jones and expecting it to be the same as it was in the good ol' days.
It's over, George isn't going to magically save the day and Star Wars even if the miracle of him being given full creative control somehow happened. Either somebody new will steer Star Wars in the right direction or it'll continue it's slow death.
Russel T. Davies return to Dr Who
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@@hellacoorinna9995 How about you don't spam the same comment everywhere like a bot?
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But really though, I have to add.
The point is, that "Oh yah George may or may not be coming back" is hardly a resounding trumpeting of joy.
Russel T. "NuWho Revival 2005" Davies return didn't exactly ring in as people hoped.
So I didn't see much of a point going into any more detail than that.
The people who get it, will get it.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Yeah, no one can save Star Wars from the systematic corporate flaws strangling the life out of it.
"It's over, B'lanna. There are no more Maquis." - Chakotay
"It's over, fans. There are no more Star Wars." - George Lucas
A shout out to Naboo while she copes with the injustice of UA-cam.
I think people took the comments a bit too far... having involvement in a star wars live action show could mean anything, not necessarily he is showrunning/writing/directing it.
It's because Theory couldn't help himself. He didn't stop to think... "Hey I am talking to a guy who is old AF and probably can't tell anymore if he's thinking of SW Underworld or Mando S1 or a future series."
@@rector0455 Yeah. He needs to realize the irony of what he is saying. He's even CALLED this behavior OUT before!
I would prefer George Lucas over these idiots in Disney anyday
Give me 10 jar jar binks episode instead of the sequel trilogy and I'll be happy
Same.
He’s a fool for selling to Disney. He should have sold to Universal Studios instead.🌎
*glances at Dr Who and Russel T. Davis*
You sure 'bout dat?
I just worry about how much power they’d let him have
Earlier in the interview, Roger mentioned that George wanted to do something that takes place way in the past. So if true, its possible he could help with the Mangold "Dawn of the Jedi" film.
I’ll believe it when Hell freezes over
Let's not get our hopes up, like we did with Filoni and Faverau.
Filoni and Favreau aren’t the problem.
Russel T. Davies return to Dr Who
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@@SkepticalJediJon and Dave is the closest thing to George Lucas
George Lucas is not either of them.
@@OffendEveryoneImmediately Don't forget; he sold out his lovechild to Disney. Before that, he gave us Jar Jar Binks, Sand, and Wheezing Grievous.
If Star Wars makes an honest comeback that makes most fans happy I'll also assume there's also peace on earth
Maybe he can direct a jar jar binks solo movie
My initial thought was that if this is true, it could explain why he supported Iger in the proxy war. But one would have to think that the other side would have gladly made similar promises to Lucas in return for his support.
Even if he comes back there's very little left to save. It would be like trying to resuscitate a person dead for 3 years. The window during which it is doable has long closed.
It felt good to see Theory on your channel.
Would love to see your guys, and The Stupendous Wave, get together and make some content.
Y'all the first guys I started watching on "UA-cam, Star Wars"
Yep, those and dash star.
Would love them all to get on a call and talk shop for a couple of hours.
Star Wars Theory spreads misinformation about the Expanded Universe.
If I'm George i would tell them naw Im good and sit back and watch the flames like the rest of us.
Roger Christian was also the director of Black Angel. For those who weren't around in 1980. Black Angel was a short movie that was released as an "intro" alongside Empire Strikes Back at the request of George Lucas. It's really good and worth checking out! You can see a lot of similar themes from the cave scene on Dagobah along with the concept of the hero's journey. Cool stuff! MTFBWY!
Seriously doubt it. If selling Starwars was like a divorce then doing a show now would be the drunken text at 2 AM. I just think he's a bit too classy for that
Even if he does, he’s nearly 80 years old, and wouldn’t have creative control. He’ll have to work within Lucasfilm and Disneys criteria and their ST era canon. I wouldn’t be excited even if he does. He shows up on sets all the time like said here, which isn’t the same as being involved in the creative projects. The franchise is too far gone to really make a turn around. They had a chance with the Mandalorian and live action shows but fumbled the ball.
Thank You!!! I don’t know why fans don’t get the concept of business.
"Strong suspiction"
Well supposedly Lucas is/was an external consultant that no one ask for his opinion, except Fravreau and Filoni and not regularly
I really don't think they are going to bring him back to work, this is a rumor that doesn't add anything that can change current Disney's Star Wars
The well has already been poisoned. Only thing that can work is decanonize all works since the sale to disney.
Nostalgia Critic once mocked those who don't like changes. Well, sometimes changes are not for good. I'm not sure, what kind of a creative person Lucas is now, since there were already questions about it in times of prequels, in times of TCW'08, and in times of selling LF.
I'd be all for it. But the damage is already done, the sequels exist.
Would definitely be an interesting surprise.
Is it too late? Even if he does come back?
Yes it is.
George has done that with most shows, i.e jon favearu shows, i call those sit ins and boosts morale... he never seemed to do a sit in for anyof the movies. Think about that, if we dont see him in any of mando season4 i have a bleak outlook. That's why i think mando 1 and 2 did well, but i never saw pictures of him in season 3...
He did for Rogue One and Solo actually. Dunno about the Sequel trilogy
I think you're right. Heck, I could see Dave consulting directly with George regarding Season 2.
My dream would be that he outlines what the next era of Star Wars post-Rey movie would be. That would be very cool.
I think Filoni's just trying to trick people into thinking George is more involved than he is. He's learned well from his Disney masters...
Old Republic. Because we are getting that origin of the Jedi movie still
Roger Christian was also a songwriting collaborator for Brian Wilson (but that was probably a different Roger Christian).
I've always believed Filoni and George talk all the time about the future of Star Wars and the projects Filoni is doing. It seems to me Filoni is always keeping George in mind and with his some what new position might have wanted George to finish his sequel trilogy he was going to do going into the micro verse of Star Wars but instead of making it a movie doing it in a series on Disney+.
Hey Thor, I love the way you sound like an astrophysicist trying to debunk UFO clickbaiters in this hahaha.
1. Roger Christian did a blunder and outed something he wasn’t supposed to and then tried to course corrected by saying “I have heard or read”
2. Roger Christian read something on the internet saying George Lucas is coming back. I’m sorry to say but bear in mind that older people tend to believe anything they read on the internet 😢
If he even does
1. He’s pretty damn old at this point
2. What is there really worth saving? Disney did a wonderful job in diluting the franchise to be that of some trash tv you’d see on sci fi channel or CW. I would have no problem if tomorrow they announced that Star Wars was officially vaulted away and reduced to being only merch. No one should helm it, let’s move on with other ideas in all honesty even if those new stories or concept do borrow some aspects.
George is mostly good at world building, but that's mostly it. The reason star wars is the way it is is because of the people around him. People will act as if he did every single thing by himself and everyone else is trying to take credit, but he has issues regarding story and dialogue sometimes and isn't the best director. Not that disney is better, because what they did is way worse.
Legends is where a lot of the really good stories came from and movies should be made from those.
I mean, every movie was good because of people around the director or writer. You can't make a movie alone. I think it's more than an exaggeration to call Lucas's successes in spite of him, or only with a bunch of specific people, but most of it is post-prequel revisionist history by the hater crowd
@@officialmonarchmusic In a way yes. But it also depends on how much control they have over it. Empire and Return wasn't even directed by him and he had someone helping the screenplay and New Hope was edited pretty heavily and almost felt like a different movie. Prequels however, he had a lot more control over it..
@@Yabuturtle See? Here's what I mean. This whole "edited heavily" business. I'd argue the editing process was relatively inconsequential, but if you're going to try and go that route, Empire was edited (And reshot) even more heavily. The budget was ballooning, and Lucas had to step in to fix it through these reshoots. He also always played a huge role in the editing process.
I don't think he had much more control over the prequels. He had pretty much control to begin with. He also did have a co-writer on AOTC I believe (Don't quote me on that last one)
@@officialmonarchmusic New Hope definitely had some editing done. Editing is very important and can really make or break a movie. He did have some more control over the prequels, but he also had less people challenging him on stuff, as he was not working with the same crew, and there were some key points in a new hope that he wanted to add in originally, but they were taken out.
@@Yabuturtle Key points like?
Sounds like Rodger heard about George hanging out with Filoni on the set of Mando/Ahsoka (whether in the past or advising him here and there for the upcoming movie/season) and misconstrued it as him returning/being heavily involved.
Erm Roger Christian also directed a little sci fi movie called - "Battlefield Earth" and he's like 80yrs old now, so I wonder just how "credible" he actually is. I'm not falling for this like starwars theory and many other fans undoubtedly will. Do we really think Disney are going to allow George Lucas anykind of creative control on his own Starwars project!?
this is all set up, it's Bob Iger calling Lucas in a advisory role and most like out of desperation, cause deep down Bob knows his company (and Kennedy) have ran this beloved IP into the ground. He needs Lucas's name attached to try and drum up anykind of hype.
I am just putting this out there: Roger Christian also… directed Battlefield Earth
I could see him, at most, working in tandem with someone like Filoni on the next season of Ashoka.
Sam Witwer hints at some unnamed protect on the Kate Sachoff show
Even if that turncoat really came back to make new Star Wars stuff, what good would it do? He endorsed Disney and praised their work, so there's no reason to expect he'd do better.
Let's just play with the idea that he is coming back (my skeptism is through the stratosphere). Why is he coming back at all? Either he saw something that he randomly got interested in or he feels like this a story that he wants to help tell. Since we can't predict if the first is true, let's assume that it's a story that he feels the need to involve himself in.
Now, it has to be a Live action TV show and one that's already in planning or production. I just don't see him feeling the need to involve in projects like BOBF, Mandalorian, Acolyte, or anything revolving around the sequels. I could possibly see him doing something for an Obi-Wan Kenobi S2, particularly if Obi-Wan was going to undergo Force ghost training. However, I think there's two more likely options:
1. Ahsoka S2 = My reasons are basically the same as Thor's (Mortis, nature of the Force, etc). I will tack on that the old EU had the Chosen Prophecy descending from Mortis and any exploration of the Mortis Gods could involve exploration into the Chosen One.
2. DOTJ show = I can see alongside the DOTJ movie, Disney deciding to double down on the era with a huge multimedia campaign, including a Live action show. And a show exploring the very birth of the Jedi and the birth of the Galactic Republic would be something Lucas would feel the need to involve himself in, with stuff like the Whills. This is random speculation, but I have a feeling that Lucas's ideas of the era is very different from what we got from EU. Plus, having Lucas be involved in the creation of the DOTJ era would give Disney some supposed legitimacy.
Hi! It's good to hear you again. I think you're right. If George Lucas was coming back to showrun a series, that would be HUGE news and Disney would definitely want to break it in their own way. It wouldn't be casually revealed by someone not really involved.
It's possible that Lucas is just really interested in Season Two of Ahsoka. Like he's not involved in an official way, but he comes to their meetings because he's intrigued by the story they're telling. And of course if Lucas was going to hang around anyone's set, Dave Filoni is probably the friendliest choice. He probably knows all the people there already.
It won't matter unless everything Disney is declared apocryphal and the EU is made canon.
Not headlining but certainly for creative input.
Put it this way. I imagine within Two decades George will be one with the Force. Before then, let George give input if he has any and let's make positive progress in the story. There's still a chance to explore the universe with him before the rest of us are sharing in a moment of remembrance.
I want to see the story continue, I'm worried that years from now they'll just be remaking the trilogies.
They definitely will remake the original trilogy. I fully believe that.
He would most likely come back for the once-talked-about, young Luke TV show! (Hopefully!)
Grogu meet's Yoda that would be a moment for Star Wars Fans 😮
Hey Thor.
Do you think that if George Lucas did come back, it wouldn't make much difference either way? Putting out hit pieces on Star Wars has made a lot of money for quite a few content creators over the last decade so I could imagine that no matter what he did, it still wouldnt be good enough for the channels that rely on pop culture negativity. These channels do have a lot of subscribers after all. Interested to hear your thoughts.
I think it's speculation but I wish it happens regardless.
I hope he is back and kick some ass, but I think it is hype or a rumor to try to boost the Acolyte and he will fade into the background. I do not Iger or KK would him DO anything.
As you said before...he's 80 years old, has a new family.. I think he's done with star wars. When you look back, he said he was done after return of the jedi.
Hope hes there for tying the script/history up - if he revealed jar jar was plagueis and snoke was a plagueis possessed vader clone, he’d make everything well again
It can be Ahsoka s2 of course. But what if the rumored series with Luke and Grogu will com to fruition, the one that didn't happen cause Katheen or Dave sent Grogu back to Din. Or maybe Jon will bring Luke into his movie, George might wanna be involved in that.
And it can also just be a rumour
That would be interesting but I don't think he would otherwise he would have a long time ago. I'll believe it when I see it
If George comes back to have a significant hand in a Star Wars project it would be the first thing since TCW that I could truly consider to be canon. I’m not going to get my hopes up though.
Maybe as a consultant, maybe
Maybe he would come in and help Dave Filoni with an animated Clone Rebellion series. They did do the Clone Wars series together, I can see that happening after the Bad Batch
I can see George coming back as a creative consultant for new projects. If he wants to direct something also, they should let him direct. Even though he's about 80 years old, there are directors that are old and still directing. For example, George Miller is still directing (79 years old, directing Furiosa) and Clint Eastwood (93 years old). I think it's great news if he comes back. I bet him and Iger talked about what happened after George sold Lucasfilm to Disney. Maybe after discussions George will now have more control and input about upcoming projects
I hope he comes back to write a series that completely bashes the fundamental idea of Star Wars and essentially ridicules the entire fandom for liking it in the first place. And I hope he brings Lana Wachowski onboard to co-write and co-direct it 😂
Maybe the decade George has had away from having a major part of a Star Wars project has been enough to fully re-energize his enthusiasm for doing it again l. But.. the source was from a video from Star Wars Theory and that guy is really weird so idk.
And it most likely is just speculation like how Thomas Haden Church has said he “thinks” Sony wants to do a new Sam Raimi/Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movie.
The problem isn't star wars lore. It's decent storytelling. George is a visionary, but his strong points are more in both the grand scale universe building and in the logistical aspects of merchandising and directing/producing (the latter can be nit-picked apart, but it's the general idea that counts). He had so much assistance with putting together the various elements of the originals, and also he was correct to keep the hands of big studios off his work as much as possible. Disney's problem isn't with the lore, nor is it with the universe (George already set that up). It's that instead of chasing a passionately told story first & foremost, they are instead prioritizing profits and THEN shoehorning whatever stories they can into their predetermined production schedules. George still had to meet deadlines (and they caused him a lot of stress), but the difference is that he still retained a lot of creative control WHICH he allowed to be positively influenced by those around him (especially Marcia). Imagine taking a Tarantino movie in production and scrambling it around with this and that. You'll get NEITHER a Tarantino movie nor your own vision. You'll get some weird half-measure of each which fulfills no real purpose. Yet Disney keeps trying to force this model to work, taking good ingredients (actors, directors, etc) and mangling up their processes. The studios are in a paradox where they MUST manage risk, yet real art is risky.
I'll believe it when I see it. And, being 80 years old, I'm sure that if there is something to this, he's not being given the keys to Lucasfilm.
According to Lucas: “Creating magic is not for amateurs. When I sold Lucasfilm just over a decade ago, I was delighted to become a Disney shareholder because of my long-time admiration for its iconic brand and Bob Iger’s leadership. When Bob recently returned to the company during a difficult time, I was relieved. No one knows Disney better. I remain a significant shareholder because I have full faith and confidence in the power of Disney and Bob’s track record of driving long-term value. I have voted all of my shares for Disney’s 12 directors and urge other shareholders to do the same.”
...So I wouldn't get excited. Unless you're a masochist. 🤷♂
If season two of Ahsoka has Baylan reach some center of the Force, keepers of the Force, historian of the Force, or whatever, and encountering a new character, it would be a perfect spot for a George Lucas cameo.
Seems like just some guy speculating, but I would really like George to come in and do consulting for Ahsoka S2 and Dawn of the Jedi.
It was announced on the tenth anniversary of the Expanded Universe reboot (removal of Legends from Star Wars continuity).
Curious timing...
he made the Mortis arc and ahsoka season 2 is strongly tied to Mortis and the Force canon
Have you ever been in direct contact with Star Wars Theory? I think you should be a guest on one of his live streams. I think he'd love to have you. You both have mixed feelings about Disney Star Wars. Whereas most seem to either love everything or hate everything. I think it would be a good discussion.
Hey Thor, what do you think about star wars theory? He is the biggest star wars channel after all (not counting the official sw channel), and he is an important figure here in yt when it comes to sw. I'd love to hear your take! Keep up the great work
Imagine if they brought him back in a “Stan Lee” way, making random cameos in every movie/show.
Lucas is gonna be 80 this year. Idk how much Star Wars he has left in him.
If this is a live-action show though, it MIGHT be Underworld...
I gotta admit... classic George Lucas SW would be great to see,but i can't help to believe that 1. it's not happening and 2....i don't think I want him to,unless he was capable of that old magic (OT or Prequels),but i feel like he'd help promote the professional victims just as much as disney is already doing,the reason i feel that way is bc in the proxy fight, whether ya like or hate Peltz inherently or not,he wasn't gonna let disney keep making propaganda for either side and would have gotten back to making money, that's what the investors would have expected or he'd be out very quickly after all that public shaming of Iger,only to fail himself,so i feel like he'd pull through, George on the other hand...i feel like will "yes man" Iger's backside into oblivion,ik some may hate i say that but believe me,i don't want to think that way at all...but recent actions kinda point in that direction, unless he voted for Bob bc disney is making the correct changes n also letting him contribute.... we'll see if any of this is true n what happens i guess
Hey Thor, I’m curious: if George Lucas has been showing on set for most of the Disney+ shows, would that technically mean those shows have his proverbial “stamp of approval?” I know he’s not in charge of Star Wars anymore, but it would seem weird to have him there if the directing team didn’t respect his input and vision at least a little.
Start by making episodes 7, 8 and 9 non canon!
Could we finally be getting Underworld? With the end of the Bad Batch, the Clones story with
Senator Chuchi, and bounty hunters could be exploitable... and last time he explained why it was dropped, didnt he say it was technologically complicated...? May be this is now so easy with the volume and AI?
Is this all based on a hunch from Roger Christianson?
You can't be serious.
Look, I know we all want new, "good" Star Wars content. Something that shows just how silly Kenobi, Ahsoka, BoBF and yes - Mandalorian are.
We, or "they", or both look to the next best director or writer, who's popular or who's in the know, or point to content in the EU or games, as if something, ANYTHING, will bring the shine back to our beloved franchise.
And then there's George, on the perpetual horizon as some sort of savior. Thing is... Just what do you/we think he can really do? Be honest.
I suggest that fandom has never been more polarized than what we're experiencing now. Do you/we really think that whatever he may create will somehow unite fandom under a universally accepted story/characters/timeline put forth by Lucas?
Seriously, I'd love nothing more. But it ain't going to happen.
The biggest thing Star Wars needs, is a long break. Years. Yes, years. Years of no new series, no movies, no MAJOR content. Games, comics, novels (you know, like how the old EU kind of worked) could still push forward, even some animated anthologies. But Dave the big stuff, hold off and quit trying so damn hard.
I know that's not what's going to happen, but it needs to. And let Lucas be, he's already done his time, made his mark in our hearts and minds. Throwing him back in the fire to placate whoever is just selfish.
Hey man I’m trying to joining you. How we can connect ?
Tbh if I were George I’d tell them to get bent for all the BS they’ve caused but you never know. I just hope Star Wars is done right before George’s time is up.
If Lucas, by any chance, does take charge again, he has my sympathy. I've already seen fans curse his name for siding with Disney and being one of its shareholders.
Not too long ago, people were praising Filoni and Favreau, only to now curse their names, too.
If Lucas has creative control again, history will repeat itself, and people will hate him like they did for the prequels and special additions.
I don’t think George should take the bait unless he has 100% control over whatever project he works on, right down to the staff and riders. I know for a fact Disney is just trying to destroy his legacy like they destroyed the legacy of Luke Skywalker.
@@londonarbuckle8601 believe what you want, but the fact is if Lucas does come back in any capacity, he'll just be victim to 'fan' hate just like he was when he made the prequels.
I think most of the people bashing him for that don't understand the situation. All they heard was that he was "betraying the fans" and saying Bob Iger did a good job with Star Wars. When in actuality, he was just trying to protect Disney from a corporate raider, who, no matter how bad Iger is, would probably have just made things worse
@@londonarbuckle8601you know forma fact? Lol, nore likely you're just mentally ill
Save Luke Skywalker save Star Wars. All roads lead to the sequels and for this Star Wars is dead, I am not sure even George Lucas himself can save it.
That's why I'm such a vigorous proponent of continuing the EU as Legends, whether creating new stories that HONOR, not break, the continuity, or adapting the stories we already have into animated features, faithfully, while also not breaking continuity and adding meaningless changes to the source material, like Filoni does. Because in our universe, Luke succeeds in rebuilding the Jedi and lays down roots with the next generation. It's an overall positive direction, despite some hardships here and there.
@@saberiandream316unlikely
@@DM5550Z Just because it's not likely given Lucasfilm's stubborn and callous management attitudes doesn't mean we should EVER stop fighting for it. That's when _they_ win.
An animated version of George’s sequel trilogy in traditional 2D animation is the only project from Lucasfilm I wanna see
I wish Disney and George had a collaborative relationship. They should still view him as the keeper of the lore.
Who cares unless they’re going to wipe away the Disney Star Wars by saying it was legends or something? Retconning isn’t going to fix what they did and it would have to be some MAJOR reconning anyway
Here's what i think (haven't watched the whole video yet), but when George backed Bob Iger a few weeks ago, i would highly doubt it was without conditions.
Hey Thor, I get that there are people who don't like midichlorions, saying they apparently break the universe and ruin the force. Some say they don't like the idea that not everyone can use the Force and that it all it should take is for you to believe in it. I've been thinking on that for a while and personally, I can't stand the idea that literally anyone can use the Force for a number of reasons. The first is my biggest issue with this idea and that is the massive plot hole this could cause, arguably one bigger than the holdo manuver. If everyone has the potential to use the force, then why don't we see more Force users than just the jedi and sith? Why don't we see bounty hunters use it, or why don't vader or the emperor train their military to use the force? Instead of manufacturing a clone army, why didn't the jedi train regular people to use the force against battle droids? I'd argue that would give them pretty good odds. Also, instead of thousands of jedi, why aren't there millions?
Another reason is that I feel this undermines the importance of the jedi. I know you don't want jedi to become superheroes, and believe me, I don't either, but one attribute they have that can apply to the jedi is that the reason they stand up to great evils or a major threat is because no one else can. If everyone has the capability of becoming a Force user, why do they even need the jedi? Why even protect a galaxy when it can protect itself. It also makes the jedi seem selfish for not sharing this power with other people so they won't need them anymore. It could've been done a thousand generations ago and it probably would have prevented conflicts or prepare people for them.
The last reason is that I find it less spiritually meaningful. Imagine the honor and privilege of being gifted a power most people don't have. By making it accessible to everyone you essentially water it down and it becomes less special. It's what syndrome said in the incredibles, "If everyone's super, no one will be." Overall, I find "you don't choose the force, the force chooses you" more meaningful than "you get the force, you get the force, and you get the force." Plus, with this I think you can make a pretty interesting dynamic between the jedi and sith. The jedi believe that because the force chose them, that gives them a sense of responsibility to protect the galaxy and safeguard the peace, whereas the sith have a sense of entitlement, seeing themselves above others and that because the force chose them, that makes them the rightful rullers of the galaxy. It plays perfectly into the theme of selfless vs selfish.
I also want to say that by having force users be a minority in a galaxy if trillions, it better explains why han didn't believe in the force. Darth bane believed that tales of the jedi were greatly exaggerated and were the stuff of legend, which is pretty easy to assume if most people can't use the force.
Before I end this comment, I want to say yes, I am aware of the 'karate' quote that George Lucas said in 1983. But, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think he has said anything else to support this idea since. I think it's more likely that he may have changed his mind overtime, because the prequels seem to contradict this idea. Where I stand is, if it was said a long time before the rest of the story was finished and it didn't make it into the final product as a whole, then it can be disregarded. Overall, thoughts?
I don't think Lucas meant it the same way as Filoni or maybe even Thor thinks he did. Midichlorians are completely fine and don't contradict anything, in fact, I'd say they are good, because they eliminate the idea that force power is genetic or runs in families. (JJ Abrams inevitably didn't understand that, and Rian Johnson understood it, but he thought we were all idiots who didn't understand that, so felt the need to patronizingly explain it) I don't hate Filoni completely but he does NOT understand the force either
@@officialmonarchmusic but the force is genetic, just take a look in skywalker family
@@guilhermepupo2840The force can manifest kn several family members, but that doesn’t equate to power levels. Master Yoda and the Emperor, not to mention all the Jedi, were just children of ordinary people
@@officialmonarchmusic yoda species are born powerful
Sure, I'll bite. I think it's wise for LFL to welcome back George Lucas. I love the idea of George getting a chance to shape SW storytelling again. I hope he's well, I hope he's eager to come back and I hope he can put some gravity back into the stories.
I don't see him coming back... but wow yea who wouldn't wanna see the man do more story. I mean he really is the only one that pushed in directions
I'd be 100% down with Lucas giving us fans one last gift from his brilliant mind. 🙏
Yeah, because fans really appreciated what his great mind gave us post 1983.
Does this have to do with the board room disputes?
Might explain the surprise support for Iger during the recent Peltz thing - maybe this was his price?
Maybe, but I think he would have done it anyway. Activist investors like Peltz are bad news
Everything George gave us I was lucky enough to see when I was a kid. I’m curious how my adult mind would react to what he had planed next.
Hey Thor. Someone told me that Karen Traviss is to blame for the negative image of Jedi in the fandom. So, as a casual fan (who hasn't read these books), I'm very curious what you think about this one. Thanks.
You know it makes me wonder why we’re even concerned about rumors when we really should be focused on decommissioning the entire continuity of Disney Star Wars.
Yeah I highly doubt that George Lucas will do more Star Wars projects. He has expressed multiple times that he has moved on, he is working on his museum, he is doing his own experimental films, probably chilling with the family etc. Again just like Thor said, I am not against this idea either, I LOVE all the 6 films George did. I just realistically don't see it happening.
Hi Thor, I just thought about this with him supporting Iger inbthe proxy war.
What if the price Iger had to pay, for that support was that George was given the possibility to make his sequels in a series format?
Perhaps a May 4th surprise? Prolly not, but who knows
I haven't been following "Star Wars" content much after The Last Jedi however I would give something a watch that George Lucas had a significant roll in creating.
I hope this doesn't happen. Lucas has a spotty record, what with the prequels being not-that-great (viewed positively in the rear-view mirror against the backdrop of the positively dreadful sequels and D-plus shows). His sequel treatment, from what I've read, is thoroughly ridiculous, focusing on the Whills. Lucas needs an editor to help narrow and fine-tune his vision. Disney does not have the ability to do that. It would be even more dysfunctional than it already is.
Back or not, it doesn't really matter. He won't have enough control to make any meaningful difference.