FLEX Tools Just EMBARRASSED Themselves AGAIN! This is why Flex Tools is HATED SO MUCH!
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They needed to say “O’doyle Rules” after each test. That makes it okay.
Seriously though their tools seem ‘fine’, but I’m more than ever wanting to support a USA owned company, and we need to pull more manufacturing into US, CA or Mexico as opposed to China.
Cheers.
Omg, that's funny 👏👏👏👏 100%
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Barnaby rules!
Dewalt still does some manufacturing in the US. And Stanley Black and Decker is US owned conpany.
Bring those manufactor here. To the territories of U.S.A. 🇵🇷🇺🇲. Territories belong to united states.😁😁😁
Got the high torque impact for 250, hammer drill kit with turbo for 200, impact driver kit with turbo for 200. In the end, I’ve walked away with a lifetime warranty on all tools, 3 quick chargers, 3 5ah batteries, and 3 2.5ah batteries. I’m impressed with these tools. Just being honest. With that said, I wouldn’t have bought these tools at full price. Not sure where the hate comes from. They’re just tools. To each his own.
I can see your point if these tools you defend were made in America. Most of them are not.
I'm digging FLEX and I'm a Milwaukee guy. The fact is their battery system is better! The tools are made very well and perform just as well or better. Nothing beats the pack out system for box locking but FLEX is very nice. Heavier across the board but German engineering is spectacular ! Can you say FESTOOL?
100% agree with you. The thing is if they weren't such A holes about their smear campaign on every other tool company they could do pretty well. But to blatantly lie about BS test results is just sad.
Hahaha, was just so much BS
I agree but are you saying no other company puts their brand over all others? I've never seen a company market their product as 2nd best. I do agree the specifics of the test are built to favor them, but I think to some extent the results are valid. After their original video there have been many other tool reviews that did their own testing and if they didn't completely confirm what Flex stated they still proved to be a valid competitor.
@@ToolReviewZone Hi Clint
I 2nd that, none of the test were fair, where was Dewalt 60v flex or Milwaukee high output? just for all that nonsense I will never touch FLEX. MILWAUKEE IS PROVEN QUALITY AND SO IS DEWALT.
The video was garbage I’ll admit it, but I got a few of there tools to start the impact gun and the 7 1/4 circ saw, and both are better than my dewalt stuff and better than my coworkers Milwaukee, the battery’s last longer on both the drill and saw, o and they charge from dead to full in less than an hour, my flex volt takes half the day to charge and dies Ian quarter of the time, so once again agree that the video was trash but there took line up has proved in my mind better, have had since they dropped day 1, I still use my Milwaukee pack out system but now it’s filled with flex
They hired these dudes straight out of a steroids convention in Las Vegas.
Lol
Apparently the FlexVolt rear handle is the real king of saws LOL. It's also blantly obvious last time and this time that Flex is rigging the results.
The "big three" didn't get where they are today by lying to their customers.
I appreciate your take on it, & love the video. Their exhibitions are definitely cringe, lol, but not any more than any other company's expos. It's always a show for sales. I do have to ask; How do you suppose they should build their brand without any capital? Should they just stop advertising & pushing their products they do have to offer until they're on DeWalt's level in terms of product offerings?
You hit it spot on when you mentioned their longevity. I have a 18 volt dewalt drill from 1997 I used it everyday almost up until a reinvested into the 60 volt / 20 volt system that drill off ladders fell off Roofs you plug the battery back in and it kept on going... And I hear about people buying the flex drills and impacts and they die almost right away no thank you
They do make some nice tools what they have. Nothing so impressive to make me want to add another battery platform but nice. Big issue is they never go on sale like the Milwaukee and Dewalt hacks.
If they were smart, they would have ran a sale immediately after posting that train wreck of a video yesterday.
@Jeremiah Mckenna just curious as I have no say either way but what makes you say they are junk? Do you have experience with them or are you just loyal to another brand? It helps those of us that have not yet invested thousands into a specific brand. They are new. I wouldn't expect them to immediately have every tool that the big names have come out with over decades.
I’m deep into the Ryobi platform. I’m not sure the new HP line lives up to the older stuff but if I change platforms it’s not to Flex. Videos like that make me worry that they think they need the infomercial hard sell for a reason.
@@jamie8917 He doesn’t know, that’s why you got no answer.
I have to say the worst presentation of a tool brand I’ve ever seen, a plumber that uses a hammer drill more than any other to, I’m a plumber and if I use a hammer drill more than twice a week that would be enough
I’m glad we have you who keeps it real not like the rest of Chanel’s who kissed flex axx. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lol, it's just so bad bro. I probably wouldn't be so hard on them if they weren't so CRINGEEEEEEE!!!
Finally a you tuber who called out flex and their lying marketing, awesome video TRZ.
Thanks brother 🙏
Flex should include a bottle of air freshener with every tool, because of all the obvious bs they're spewing. I know all companies stretch the truth, and/or lie.. but this takes the cake.
I have zero desire to buy any Flex overpriced tools. I’m quite happy with my Milwaukee, DeWalt and Makita tools!
Still paying off that home equity loan you took out to purchase that Milwaukee 12 volt set? Don't worry. We understand.
Agreed brother
@@CJGilliam Nope. I never once buy any items at full price. I buy super sales, or my favorite… hacks, which 80% of my purchases were accomplished
@@CJGilliam and I own my home and land. 100% debt free
Same here buddy! Plus I’d really like to see that hammer drill beat the Milwaukee one like that lmao I mean damn even dewalt beat Milwaukee but yet any job site I’m on I blow everyone away with how good my Milwaukee one is lol
Christ dude this vid was 5X more annoying than the actual FLEX vid 🤷♂️
I tried
I would like more reviews on these tools. I'm mainly in for the lifetime warranty, if that doesn't end up being scam territory. I don't have much reference in this area, but the Flex tools were my favorite feeling in hand. Everyone's tools cost about the same +/- a negligible $50 when bought in a kit. The company seems to really be making a go at it and I'm all for it. Seems like they're in an excellent position to be a serious competitor in the market, backed by a huge corporation with excellent battery technology. My concerns are: their small tool catalog (which seems to be updated continually), their long-term reliability (somewhat negated by the warranty), and the complete lack of bare-tool options. I'm disappointed you are not reviewing their tools regardless of their "infomercials."
Metabo HPT has the lifetime warranty and always has. Just go with them.
I use em for hundreds of hours a month and they are absolutely amazing. Destroy everything else in the field by a massive margin
I was devastated because because I've always been a flex die hard fan and went out and bought just about every tool they had even the complete stack pack. With all the attachments and once I realized those tools got cold and they had been out in the building and these are brain new tools. I have and even really used them at all and I may have used 1 or 2 of them probably 2 or 3 times. Inside the house but besides that I left them out and the building in the stack pack and I've extremely clean environment because my wife uses that building for beauty. Salon but apparently they will not survive in cold weather. They will lose complete contact. The batteries won't function properly William and I had to call them. Call them in and end up having them replaced but unfortunately the thing about it is. I had a very hard time trying to replace my tools through flex. They replaced 1 or 2 but the crazy thing is after you purchase them. They'll try to find a reason not to replacement. At least a person who I spoke to so I was completely shocked because my tools were not working. And I had a huge problem with my battery chargers my rapid chargers. They completely stop working and for 2 battery chargers to not work and these were brand new just because they were exposed to cold air that hadn't been completely. Blown away I was devastated shocked and in disbelief because I never bought any tools even cheap tools where if they got cold they would just. Don't work anymore and that's what happened to me. You know so you guys I'm telling you if you live in a cold area. Then stuff apparently you have to keep your tools in room temperature. Maybe 72ﾟ because if they get exposed to cold weather or cold air. Whether it's in your garage or something for I don't know 23 days. You're gonna probably have to replace them because they probably will not work after that
I'd agree that the marketing video is cringe, but I think their products are really high quality. I only have one FLEX tool and that's a PXE-80 nano polishing tool for cars etc. Their quick change heads for polishing is an absolute game changer compared to the competition where they still use spanners. Also the FLEX batteries and chargers themselves are far ahead of the likes of Milwaukee, DeWalt. I myself have DeWalt tools mainly only because I'm on their battery system, but I use a lot of Milwaukee tools at work.
Fantastic! You expressed my sentiments perfectly. They didn't do very much to instill confidence in their company and their brand - I still don't know who they are apparently it's a company from Germany who's been making tools for 100 years but I never heard of them before last year - how do I know they're not one of those pop up Amazon brands that's gonna be gone overnight? When I see testing I want to know the model number and the stated specs for all the competition. That's why I like PF and TTC so much - every company overstates their specs let's have them read with a meter and show the actual results. Also I would have liked to have seen the new metabo rear handlr circ saw it has gotten fantastic reviews some better than Milwaukee and dewalt. They also acted like Ridgid's LSA has never existed.
Cringeworthy is right! You hit the nail on the head - thank you.
The original Flex was a German company, they're famous for inventing the angle grinder in 1954, but is presently owned by Chervon, same company that makes Skil, Skilsaw, Ego, Hammerhead, and a few other tool brands... Big company, just like TTI and Stanley Black & Decker... Good tools but yeah, their marketing is horrible...
@@ZeoCyberG That's funny my wife is German and has never heard of this company, but she does know Bosch and AEG.
@@jimmtech Not really, unless you're into the tools they make there's a lot of brands people probably never heard of but have been around like forever. Especially tools that sold directly to companies... In North America, FLEX sold mainly metalworking (grinders and polishers) and masonry power tools, but in Europe it also made and sold woodworking tools. They even had a partnership with American tool producer Porter Cable, until Pentair sold its power tool division to Black & Decker in 2004. Then in 2013 Chervon acquired them and they developed the present Flex tools over the next several years for what you see now...
@@jimmtech your wife would not know tho, because she most likely not a tradesman from Germany. iam from Germany and also a tradesman.
the word Flex in Germany, is Synonym for grinders... just like how ppl say kleenex instead of a tissue.
industry language, you wouldn't know if you r not in the industry.
They have been around for ever.
As a professional who has used cordless tools almost 5 days a week for over a decade flex is utter garbage for 2 reasons.
1. They are heavier I'd rather have a lighter tool because a heavier drill will fatigue your arm faster than a lighter one common sense.
2. More power does not mean better at all it makes new guys fuck shit up more often and even experience guys.
These are just a homeowners gimmick tool
Flex did say they had the stack batteries before DeWalt did. That's why DeWalt rushed to put out their battery
Possible. Thanks Howie 👊
I checked with some of the attendees of the DeWalt event.
The invites went out months ahead of time. DeWalt did NOT just 'rush out their PowerStack'.
VCG did a controlled leak from Flex just ahead of the DeWalt event to steal some of DeWalt's thunder, not the other way-round.
That is Flex Fanboy FakeNews Conspiracy Theory Narrative. LOL.
@@ToolHombre Look, I triggered a DeWalt fanboy 🤣
DeWalt didn't rush it out at all guys. It was all a coincidence that it was leaked that flex was doing it and then DeWalt released one tiny battery 🙄.
I bought into Flex tools in the beginning with a set of 5 tools I purchased online after falling for the promo videos, only to learn how big and heavy they are. Pretty well built and powerful, I’ll give you that, but at the time I was doing a lot of overhead work and got very fatigued with just the heft of the drill and battery. Also, I found that the chuck ran out very noticeably. Now, I kick myself every time I go to Lowe’s and see the vast display of Dewalt tools and the puny selection of over priced Flex tools directly opposite.
Overpriced junk imo... my long time friend bought a flex impact last year and was bragging about how "stout" it was so he invited me to do a lag bolt showdown in some old sawmill lumber. I brought my Bosche Freak 2.0 impact (which isn't the best impact in its class by far) and after just a couple lag bolts, his flex must have strained a hemorrhoid cause it literally stopped working and started smoking. I hammered in a couple more bolts just to show what my 150 doll-hair impact would continue to do over his 3 long wheel base 10 broken flexi wouldn't do... he still has that impact but its been a paperweight due to the fact he couldn't get a replacement for some odd reason. I own Dewalt, Milwaukee, Bosche, Ridgid, and Ryobi (not Reeobi) so diversity is a thing for me. However wasting money is not so I don't see myself ever purchasing any Flex tools in my future. Maybe they should lower the price on their shit and quit spending so much on making a short film that has worse acting than a cheap Netflix horror film! Great video Clint, always enjoy!
BTW I bet that Vance guy at Vegan Cookies Good construction would definitely buy all of these items 😆 JK! Enjoy his and your videos, I just smile more when I watch yours.
Hahaha, thanks for the awesome feedback and comment brother. Vance will definitely buy 😆👊
@@matthewfoster526 glad for you man hope it stays that way. Especially if you work construction... did I mention I also have my own construction business and auto repair shop? 🤭 guess I just did 😆 it isn't fun unless we can give each other hell about things ya know
@@vicenteg88 Well, Flex has high end and low end tool series. Just like Dewalt, you have to be careful which version you get...
It's possible he got a lemon. Kind of weird he could get a replacement....unless he didn't register or something.
Yup I hate, freaking HATE the marketing and that's enough to drive my ass away from their platform. Building new tools that are better than the top 3 can't be an easy task and I think they have some good tools and battery technology but they lack so many important tools it's comical really. Right now they're a hard pass. 👎🤡
100% agreed brother
I was interested..but honestly have gotten some SKIL tools (Christmas) and have been rather impressed so far.
The router combo ( router with both bases ) , that digital read out is nice. As well as an impact , driver kit ( just ok) and the oscillating tool is 👍
@@adwhite804 whatever works good for you and puts a smile on your face when you use them it's all that matters. I like some of their 12v stuff for around the house myself. 👍
@@AzTurboMini I'm not in the trades. More novice, diy and artist...heck I just like building stuff I need. And , of I can make a little money doing for others as well..
Bonus!
Your tools are only 20% bigger and heavier than every other tool line as well. Also, how is that table and miter saw you got??? Oh wait....never mind. Sounds like someone is trying to feel better about their really bad purchase 😕
Clint, the gas struts are revolutionary. And you didn't even mention the fact the Flex Stack n' Pack is made of POLYPROPYLENE. That's a space-age material, bro! And you can strap your jobsite fan on there and with the stacked lithium battery it will self-propel your Stacky Packy on it's all-terrain tires right to your F-350 Lariat Platinum Limited that's never seen a day of work in its life!
Flex changed everything... again... with mostly the same tools as a year ago. It makes sense, TRUST ME.
Hahahahaha
I had dewalt for a very loooong time. I changed the main tools to flex and I don’t think they are bad tools. But they are not the best, drill kits are a bit too heavy. Also, lock star accessories are not easily found at Lowe’s or home depot. Makita and dewalt have many different options of tools. Just my opinion.
On the grinder test, if you watch the metal bar Milwaukee guy is cutting it wobbles and looks almost cut through, he then stopped and readjusted the cut so Flex could win. Flex should have only used their tools against Flexvolt, if Flex wins then they got some bragging rights. This was just them whining about getting call out last time.
I think this may be worse than the last vid, but it's close 🤔
Saw that too
6:06 can connect any fan to Milwaukee packout with grabbing the mod feet and adding to any brand of fan, or other tool as an fyi.
Don’t get me wrong, this vid from flex was bad, BUT, this hopefully will breed better tools for us, and know other brands will go stacked battery system, which has a ton of tools and can’t wait for those batteries to use on my Milwaukee tools of yesteryear. Even DeWalt’s power stack and the tools the new battery works in, like any 18v tool👍🏻
Thanks for the awesome feedback Aepek 👊👊
Those people on that commercial have spent more time in their life grooming their "beards" than working on a construction site.
Milwaukee dude wasn’t even applying any sort of body weight pressure. Just look at his stance. 😂😂
I also worked on this shoot. One incredible thing about the angle grinders was getting repeatedly scolded by the director because the pad kept flying off while shooting. I personally refitted multiple grinders with different pads to no avail, before one of the Flex representatives finally took charge. He, too, couldn’t figure out why their junk couldn’t hack it. Hmmm, gee wonder why.
Thanks for the honest feedback Tapes 👊👊👊
What pad?
@@eiward grinder pads
Looks like they flexed the fact that flex isn't next
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Clint this video is money. Their marketing is pure cringe. Imo if you’re going to compete with the likes of Milwaukee and Dewalt you need to bring something special to the market, not just remake the same stuff
100% agreed brother. Same old BS different company
I said this on VCGS video of the stream and I’ll say it here, on the concrete block.. of course they gave the flex to the guy who loves to push super hard on the tool. You remember him from part one or seen mancavers video? This time around he was the only dude with his elbows completely bent so the drill was locked in near his chest, legs stance super wide and pushed with his whole body into the block. Meanwhile when they all finished the test he was like yeah I let the tool do the work I just applied a little pressure.. lmao and I thought their tools might be okay but now flex your garbage for that. Who markets their stuff like this. And the big dude in the video, please.. my gf will push a tool with more force then that jet puffed marshmallow
If push that hard I would probably shit myself and still finish first too😂🤣
jet puffed marshmallow 🤣 That man must be related to the Pillsbury Dow Doughboy 😂
I don't care for flex as a tool brand at all. Like you said they're the same price, if not more expensive. Either they've spent too much developing these tools, or copying an the premium styling and trying to insert themselves in. Dewalt, ryobi, ridgid is what I have, possibly milwaukee later down the way as I continue to buy tools. There's literally no need for flex. They're not offering anything different.
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LOL....you can tell the guy with the FLEX is pushing so much harder. Everyone is standing pretty much upright...he's really leaning into it.
I thought he was going to take a nap 😆😆😆
Honestly flex is the best on the market right now, I've converted some milwaukee guys to flex
What I thought was funny is the guy with arms like atlas, said he was tired after just drilling one hole with the Milwaukee in that wall on concrete, didn't seem to me he was huffing and puffing afterwards, I call bullshit!!!!!!!
Hahahahaha
The fan is a genius idea so is the work light. I’m on a Milwaukee platform and will have to jump over to flex so I can stay cold and see what I’m doing.
It's a shame the line isn't more "Flexible".....
In all honesty I wouldn't even consider getting a FLEX power because they are so new to the market and dont have enough confidence that their tools will last long to keep the limited lifetime warranty permanently and they just don't have the range of tools that say DeWalt and Makita have. Just seems like they should stop doing these awkward videos and just let their tools talk for themselves like the other brands do.
I have to agree, but I do have a good time watching the train wreck that is Flex happen from time to time 😆
How were they able to find "contractors" that have been using Flex for sooo long that they stand by the line hands down.
Hahaha, these must have been around for decades without us knowing about them 🤷😆😆😆
Flex seems way too gimmicky. Looking for storage boxes, and the flex boxes are nothing but poorly thought out gimmicks.
The only people I see using Flex tools are people that were given them for free and they only use them in the sponsored videos. In their following videos where they are doing work, the Flex tools never seem to be used for some odd reason.
I have the Flex cordless polisher (XCE 8 125) and absolutely love it! Their detailing tools are first rate.
Is it the original red flex or the over rated black line ? The original red flex tools are true masterpieces the black ones mostly disapont from what i know
Look I'm a Ryobi guy but I don't understand why every UA-camr is going after FLEX so hard when literally every tool company has done the same in the past or still do. I understand the TTI money train is very deep here on YT but can you guys at least try to make it less obvious. come up with some logical reasons why you don't like the tools other then saying "Yea!, yeah right!." or "they don't have enough tools yet". The ones they do beat many other offerings. that's not a very good retort.
Anyways love the content regardless you're the best on YT!
Thanks for the feedback James 👊👊
@@Tool_Addicted_Carpenter I can find you a video of every manufacturers tools doing that. It's really just the price and no sales on FLEX that is hurting them. Just like EGO who cares how fancy you are if you cost way to much.
If I ever got flex it would be because I accidentally walked out of Lowe's with it...
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I tried to watch their release video, and almost threw up. Not sure of their market demographic,but that should have been aired at 2 AM in the morning on QVC.
Most of the flexvolt line tools would have killed them including one of my favourites that I use nearly every single day that is the dcg418 grinder that thing is a beast especially with a 9AH or 12AH battery
And so is their Flexvolt "worm drive" saw. Beast!
The one guy was pushing hard on the flex hammer drill, while the other 3 was letting there tools the job, I bet if they dropped kettle bell on the flex module boxes they would crack they didn't even compare it to ryobi module boxes, hell ryobi is more Innovative and smart making tools for home owners diyers and people in the lawn care business, flex says they the first to offer a lifetime warranty on there tools when they don't realize ridgid has been doing that for years and now ridgid covers their air compressor tools under lifetime warranty, they don't have a track saw table saw or miter saw that are brushless like ryobi.
My dude sting Bean 👊
I feel like there are competing marketing teams at Chervon, each testing their own ideas. Skil side: let's make really solid tools at good prices and let word of mouth carry the day. Flex side: let's make slighty better tools and charge a premium for them to convince people that they're quality tools and we'll back it up with insane marketing.
Agreed 👊 Skil definitely more respectable and can cary itself by the name and we'll made tools
@@ToolReviewZone to be fair, I own a bunch of the Flex tools (most purchased on rare sale or free battery promotions). I like them, but they're still overpriced. The 6 1/2 inline circular saw is the most innovative thing they've done. Turbo mode on the drill is neat and the drywall tool with directional dust capability is also neat, but aside from that there's not much that sets them apart from other brands. (Yeah, battery monitors on both sides of the battery are unique, but not all that useful). Meanwhile Skil brought back the auto hammer on their 12v platform that got me out of a jam this weekend where the Milwaukee wouldn't fit.
I think they also backup the quality of their tools by their warranty. Hopefully it's a warranty they stand behind. As with any new brand time will tell.
Skil is so low key but they have some great looking stuff at good prices. Im highly considering their contractor table saw.
Totally agree! You’re very funny! The back and forth between you and “Vance” is good entertainment! Seriously though I could be on board with any new company if they let real people test the tools even if they lost one showdown I would respect them a whole lot more!
Truly appreciate this comment Sbjdare1 🙏 And I'm sure Vance would as well 😆😆😆
"Belts and boxes" had a watch party for this video and it was what we call in MN a hoot and a half. A lot of crap talking followed by "light looks pretty good actually." Thanks for what you do tool review! Keep up the good work.
How's the Hotdish. Or the pop. Lmfao. I lived in Minnesota for 46 years......
@@homesteadhaven2010oh sure I betcha did lol
@@markpapas12 I miss the Minnesota talk. Thanks. That made me lol.
I talk about ice fishing to my friends down here. I always say when we went Bottle Bass fishin.. I get the look of what the hell. Or pond hockey...
@@homesteadhaven2010 Don't forget boot hockey lol. Glad to hear the Minnesotan hasn't left you
I think what would work really good on a face-off such as this… is having a guy that’s represents, Milwaukee Makita DeWalt… going up against flex… and this is the only way that I think that we can get a very good outcome, on these tools… as for me I am a Milwaukee fanboy through and through… but I also owned other brands of power tools… That I also think that are very good… thanks for the video…
Flex trying to get everyone to buy there new tool lineup but contractors aren't dropping there tool line to go run to lowes to buy these tools... and let's face it flex isn't doing any promotions worth anything Every other brand makita, Milwaukee, ridgid, ryobi and even dewalt have tool deal promos all year long and that's the reason flex isn't selling very well or fast and also in stores at lowes they only have 4 tools I'm stock out of the 8 tools on display
That Flex tool guy is like a used car salesman!
I got to feel/hold flex at lowes display and one thing I really disliked is how heavy flex with battery. Second, I didn’t like the price, a bit to high in my opinion. I would rather go with kobalt in that case.
I been doing the same, JUST TOO PRICEY TO EVEN CONSIDER.
And after watching Faceoff 1 and 2,
the LIES! LOL most definitely not.
I'll bet these "contractors" couldn't tell you how many eighths are in an inch!
Cmon Ron, Flex only uses the best actors..... I mean Contactors 😆
I think they are good tools but the reason why most people won’t buy them is because they are typically heavier than the competition. I will not teplve my known, proven tools for Flex. Good for them but I am sticking to what I already own.
Weak sauce
You have some valid points. Marketing is atrocious. That being said, I am a real framing contractor out of Utah and am demoing the flex saw and sawzall right now. I currently have two trailers loaded with dewalt 60V and Makita 40V. From my limited use this far I do have to say that the flex has more power than the dewalt which has more power than the Makita. Ripping 2x material and cutting LVL’s it’s quite obvious that the flex is faster. That being said I still love my dewalt stuff. I think Makita totally struck out with their 40V stuff. I had their 36v previously and I still prefer it to their 40v. The biggest thing at this point is time for flex. Hopefully they hold up well and can expand their line to have more clout among contractors.
I work in Lowe's and Flex is by far the hardest thing for me to sell. They do seem pretty high quality, the batteries seem great and the shock absorption does as well. The few people who have bought into them have loved them but they're just too expensive/overkill for the average customer in Lowe's. Most people coming in only use their tools once or twice in a year and stick with the cheap Craftsman or Kobalt line, and any contractor we get has already bought into Milwaukee or Dewalt.
The poor marketing might be the biggest issue overall though, the cringe videos you pointed out don't help, but there's also next to no marketing for them in the store (at least in mine). They have one aisle where they're sold and one tiny display we made at Christmas, most people walking in don't even realize they exist. I think if they release some yardwork tools, have actual sales during the holidays, and increase their marketing in stores, they could become a more legitimate brand, but right now their only great selling point is the lifetime warranty.
Especially when you have deals like the dewault impact & drill for $170 when flex deal goes close to $300
Flex did the test against dewalts old batterys, I didn't see flex volt or powerstack batterys been used, this has to be the worst advertising I've seen from a tool company, I'll stick with dewalt and stanley fatmax v20 power tools
Definitely agree with everything you said. And gotta say one of the most entertaining videos I've seen in awhile, thanks for the laughs.
Thanks brother 🙏
Love the husky organization shout out. I love my husky organizer. It does the job.
Yeah definitely I have one and not bad for the price 👊
The Makita 40v xgt woulda been awesome to see, along w/ flexvolt for circ saw testing
Damn right brother
Actually the stacked batteries leaked around the same time. So no dewalt didn't win that either
The most honest tool review channel. Along with shamwow I think I seen the host sell scrub daddy on QVC.
Hahahaha I believe he did Kim lmao 🤣 👊👊👊
I do all my work with Dewalt and Makita, been building houses for over thirty years and never had a problem, why change?
Hey Clint. Here's my take on these new Flex tools.
Some of them look pretty nice based on "real" field tests I've seen and not this fake ass totally staged infomercial.
The tests and feedback I've seen show that some of the tools are pretty powerful and have pretty good performance specs and decent vibration dampening. All of which is cool and helps make any tool better.
And the new stack batteries they have look like they will only improve battery performance and make their tools perform better than the standard Li Ion batteries most cordless tools come with today.
But is the extra cost worth the, what I call, small incremental improvements over the other big 3 top top companies (Big Red, Yellow and Teal) or even maybe Metabo HPT? I don't think so.
The 5 year warranty, or lifetime warranty if purchased in 2021 or 2022, makes a compelling point in their favor, but the truth is, the tools and batteries are really too heavy and bigger than I need for 95% of the work I'm doing.
I'm actually looking to go the opposite way with smaller and lighter tools which is why I've started to invest in the DeWalt Extreme 12 volt tools lately, on top of the many Milwaukee M12, and even a few Skil 12 volt, tools that I already own.
Yes, these Flex tools are really in a different category than the 12 volt stuff I have been enjoying lately, but I'm also already heavily invested in Milwaukee M18, Makita 18 volt, Rigid 18 volt, Bosch 18 volt, Ryobi, DeWalt XR and extreme and even one or two Power Detect and a few Flex Volt Advantage tools, and even some Skil 20 volt and 54 volt, and Kobalt 24 volt lines of tools.
I just don't see a strong enough reason or argument to make me switch or add it to my already too big of a collection of tools.
Plus as we've already pointed out, they're more expensive than any of the competition's tools for the same or slightly better performance, the tool selection is very basic and limited, and they're never on sale or can be purchase for anywhere near the same hot deals we sometimes find at HD or Lowe's with the hacks or clearance deals we find all the time thanks to the UA-cam tool communities.
Maybe one day I'll have a need for bigger, heavier, bulkier, more expensive tools than everything I already have with all the brands I mentioned above. But if I ever started feeling I needed all those things in a cordless tool platform, I'd look to the DeWalt 60 volt Flex Volt line, or the Makita 40 volt line before I'd start spending more money for over priced and over hyped tools that I already own and that already perform very good for real world construction jobs.
There's just no good reasons I can think of that will convince me to make the jump.
Maybe if they started to put some of their top of the line tools on sale once in a while to make it worth trying over the other brands I already own, but I haven't seen that happen yet since these Flex tools have been released. So I'm not holding my breath!
Thanks for your honest review of this cringe worthy event. It's one of the reasons why I love your channel and have been a longtime follower and fan. Keep up the great work!
Wow David, what an amazing, well thought out comment 👏. Thisbis the type of feedback I truly love to see, and I appreciate it brother 👊👊👊
@@ToolReviewZone No problem Clint. I appreciate what you do more than I can express. I can tell you're sincere and honest and I respect that.
In reality I've been in this game a long time and have a lot of money invested in the tools that I already own and use. But with that being said, I will often buy a better performing tool after watching a good review from you or one of the few other well respected tool review channels out there. (Obviously that excludes that 🤡 show VGC Construction channel! ) (Take notes there Vance...I said well respected! Lol)
And I do this just to see for myself if the newer tools being reviewed really are better compared to what I already owned. Often if they are I'll give the older, slightly lower performing, tool away to a young guy just starting out in the trade, or maybe to a struggling family member who could really use a slightly used but still good performing tool with a lot of life still left in it.
But I just haven't been able to convince myself to try these Flex tools yet based on what I've seen so far, but also because of their cheesy marketing campaign.
I get it, they're just trying to get their name out there, and get people talking about their tools, but I think most professional tradesman and working men and women can see right through the BS so it has the opposite effect and turns us off to the brand.
Don't get me wrong, if I ever came across a great deal that I couldn't say no to, I'd give it a go and see for myself how good they might be. But seriously, most of the tools made by the big 3 or 4 main brands out there are so close in performance that it's almost impossible to improve on the performance we're already seeing in the brands that we're already loyal to.
So unless Flex has some ground breaking performance up their sleeve that they haven't announced yet, I really don't see most of us who are heavily invested in the brands we already own rushing out to make the switch, or even just try one or two even for the hell of it.
If the prices dropped below some of the other top brands, maybe some more would give them a shot, but for the premium prices these tools are going for, they've got a long hard road to climb to just make a dent in any of the other's already strong sales here in the US.
@@El_Diablo_LI They should have done a sale after this video went live. Not sure how they can get a new (possible) customer to tey their tools if they don't give them a window to do so. If anything, they should have came in with the price between Kobalt and Dewalt at Lowes, but their heads are too big and decided to charge crazy amounts of cash for an unproven platform. Makes no sense to me 🤷
Wow. I agree. Very well written comment. Finally someone that can respect a tool brand that is not what they have invested in and point out the positives where they exist and not simply say anything not red, yellow or teal is trash. I completely agree that they are well built but very heavy.
Awesome comment ( LETTER ), LOL
Took all the words out of my mouth, I have Milwaukee as my biggest platform, with Dewalt and Ridgid as my backups, and Ryobi if I need help from someone who doesn't have tools to help me. I think that after watching the faceoff's I will definitely not be purchasing Flex at all EVER! to me, that shows integrity faults.
If I found a smoking deal I might buy some of their tools, but I’m already invested in Dewalt 20v and 12v, Milwaukee m12 and a little bit of m18. I need another battery system like I need a hole in the head, although I might get a little bit of RYE-obi for oddball tools.
I like red brand
easier to find in dim light . Grey would blend in with driveways and the natural terrains get run over
I personally have a good bit of flex tools. I really like them. Theres some things that i dont like about them. For instance, theres no lock for the nose cone attachment on the dry wall gun. But, I also dont use the nose cone unless I run out of collated screws. Ive done my own test with my dewalt xr impact vs the flex impact running lags into engineered beams. Flex wins. The normal circ saw is okay. ig. The multi tool is very good other than the fact that its starlock and its impossible to find cheap starlock blades. The sawzall is great. There is almost no vibration at all. The 2 chuck sds is nice. What they preach in their tools, is the truth, but not entirely necessary. Theres no need for a sawzall that doesnt vibrate. As someone who has the tools and stands by their capabilities, I would still say that its not worth switching over to a whole new line. I WILL say that they practically give batteries away for free in their bundles though. Ive bought 3 kits so far and have 8 batteries and 4 for were for free. No brainer. But if you’re someone whos invested in Dewalt or Milwaukee, stay with them. This is the most honest review you’ll find in this comment section. I came here to see what they revealed. And I found a lot of hate from people that have probably never used them on a jobsite.
I’m really new to this tool game. Had to learn to fix my house where I could. Started with Ryobi. Still like what I have, but really wanted a multi-tool and a reciprocating saw. I bought myself this large tool set from FLEX that had both. I totally agree with you on the lack of vibration on the reciprocating saw. For a newbie, and a less physically strong newbie, it was sturdy but very comfortable to handle. I love that multi-tool and my circular saw as well. I have no complaints.
@@gijoyjoy Ryobi is a great line for home owners and DIY people. I also bought the 6 tool set. And its a great starter set. Im glad you got in the game!
The full size HP ryobi tools are unstoppable, although try to not breaks screw bits in half with the impact on mode 3
Yo Clint! "Sham wows cousin uncle and grandfather." Lmao. Epic. I'm sure the tools perform wonderfully but these infomercial bs tests have to stop. They may convince an average Joe but not tool heads, gear heads and tradesmen like ourselves. 🤦♂️ Not to mention, those power tools are heavy as boat anchors! It's ridiculous. Also, they didn't compare the new battery against their own older battery. What gives? Lastly, no OPE. Welcome to the world of RIDGID. Great job FLEX! 🤦♂️🤣
Hahaha, forgot about the brother 😆😆😆 Theu even had me sticking up for the Gnome brother 😠
@@ToolReviewZone 🤣🤣The gnome may be a jerk, but he has phenomenal performing tools that last forever!
Totally agree with the boat anchor comment. That's something they never mention. These tools are heavy and bulky. Yes, you get a few more volts of power, but there's a downside to that in the form of extra weight and size. For certain tasks having the extra size or power might be okay or even desirable and an advantage. But for 90% of the tasks most of us perform on a day to day basis, smaller and lighter is the better way to go. And with smaller and lighter, the performance is still pretty good and more than capable to accomplish what we need it to do.
And just wait until 12 volt Lithium Pouch batteries become available from DeWalt. It will make their already excellent 12 volt line even better. Can't wait!
I have a couple flights tools and they are awesome I had an issue with the rear handle circular saw and they sent me a new one out in the mail no questions asked so warranty is on point. The only reason I bought them is because they had such good sales but this company is dead in the water The only way they'll last is if they just hold out and hold out the whole doubt until they're on the brink of collapse and somehow they pull through
BULL SHIFF! Can they send the paid actors to my house? Hey! Have to do it, can't help it...
Where's the track saw, Flex?
Another channel whipped out their Packout box and debunked the idea that the lid doesn't stay opened. Lying isnt going to bring in new customers.
Flex batteries are next level, but until they expand on tools like 1-3/4” hammer drill, compact bandsaw that cuts at least 3” pipe, and as long as they are as durable like a Milwaukee I’d consider them.
I live in North Carolina and we had some cold weather recently. And I had my tools in my wife's building that was not Heated and I realized something where I realized all my fault. All my tools that I had and were in the building and the buildings fully insulated in everything. But it does normally get cold especially when you do not have heat and apparently if you leave flex tools and a cold environment for at least. A week your tools might not work anymore
Well havent have any issues with my dewalt tools. If ur tool does average youll be fine. If your tools are reliable youll be fine.... Tools are not used in a race. These are marketing strategy. Some may put blunt blades or bits forcing some to perform less. Its a marketing strategy.
It's basically a Miracle product infomercial without the "BUY IN THE NEXT 30 MINUTES AND WE'LL THROW IN A SECOND ONE FOR FREE!!!"
I think American consumer are easily drawn in to this kind of marketing but are equally distrustful of it, and it being a tool brand makes it all the worse and bizarre.
It's the Sega Genesis brand strategy.
You forgot the fact that in Canada there's 3 Lowes locations in the whole country. So they basically lost a 3rd of North America to sell tools too let alone being at hitting prices and the idiotic braggy dude from a high-school football team. I'll keep my ryobi HP and buy XGT once I cook 2 of the same tool. Also what's a brand reputation?
Yeah they didn't have the DeWalt Flexvolt that would wipe it with power and the new 36V Metabo HPT rear handle that has more power than both. My Makita and Milwaukee and 2 +pounds lighter than all of them
And they keep not having their grinder go against the most powerful and lightest Metabo HPT 36V grinder
Tired if them saying their the most powerful then not actually putting them up against the industry leading tools
There were a lot of things I saw flex ain’t 100% of what they showed especially the test runs
My favorite thing about flex is its jus another company to put more pressure on dewalt, milwaukee, and makita to keep upping their game lol if flex makes a 9" cordless metal cutting circular b4 anybody else does i will buy it tho. No1 has a cordless that size. Milwaukee 8" doesnt have enough depth of cut gain compared to a 5 7/8". My only corded tool left!
I dropped over $3 thousand dollars in flex tools almost 2 years ago when they were released. 3 months ago the batteries started leaking back goo that stains everything and may be toxic. Flex warranty is nowhere to be seen.
Did you register your tools they have a lifetime warranty? Have you reached out to them?
Makita and flex both need a 24 36 to 40 v framing gun any insight on any of these brands comming out with a framing gun this year?
But the Flex tools are black and the infomercial production quality is so good. Flex must be the best. Plus, their tools can lift weights for you so you can quit your gym membership. That’s it, I’m throwing my Ridgid and Makita tools in the trash so I can be cool like these guys. 😆
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Maybe they need to hire the guy with all the question marks all over his suit. 🤣.
Hahahahaha, I'd watch that!!!!!
Funny thing is this pouch cells been around since the cordless house phones and Even Cell phones The technology isn't new Just new to power tool batteries
Surprised Vance from Vegetarian Cookie Group wasn't invited to the FLEX party.
The only thing that flex brings to the table is the color. I like the black, not enough to throw away thousands of dollars worth of tools to switch to another brand that makes like 20 and has no longevity reviews.
Part of being an animator is studying body language. at 8:43, can you trell me how many of these people are really pushing against the block they are drilling into? The guy n the bottom right seems to be really struggling and puttting as much effort into drilling this block as he can. The other three guys don't even look like they are putting any pressure on the tools. They are literally just holding them in place.
Its crazy how Lowes doesn't carry Milwaukee or Makita. That's like finish line not carrying Nike and Adidas.
They’re not going go to carry Nike anymore lol or maybe that was footlocker
Clint, gotta pick one. Makita or Flex. What’s your pick?!
Hahaha, wow....talk about a loaded question 😆 If I have to answer.... Makita all day every day 😪😆👊
You guys are awesome. A bunch of people complaining about Flex and their promotional video. When everybody knows all of you would start salivating if Milwaukee announces they were going to start selling turds spraypainted red for $799.98 a pop.
But at least I could use the Milwaukee batteries I got with the red spray painting turd on the other 100s of Milwaukee Tools 😆
@@ToolReviewZone, you are correct.🙄
A brand new tool company should never startup unless they have hundreds of different tools available day one.
They should never introduce new tools over time and build up a following along the way.
They should show confidence in their brand and offer deals where honest, ethical customers buy item A and get item B for free. Just so those customers can return item A for a full refund keeping item B for all the hassle.
And for all that is holy, never under any circumstances release a commercial that shows them being better than anyone else in the industry.
They should have the slogan, "We are good, but here is someone better."
Keep up all "your" cringy 🤡 🌎 💩.
@@ToolReviewZone Come-on man. $799... you KNOW that's tool-only.
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Hmm, if these guys were Pinocchio, they'd have plenty of firewood for the winter. Why the bs? You ain't never gonna fool the tool crowd. 🤔
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No hate from me brother I'm with you. No way I passed up a Dewalt, Milwaukee, or Makita for flex.
Flex as a name is such a joke. It's basically like they focus grouped a bunch of 23 year olds and asked them what their favorite words were.
Reminds me of when howie long was chevy’s spokesman. Just stop. Have a ten year old in overhauls stand up and say “we made stacked batteries like dewalt and have big ones too”
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The sham wow guy should stick to promoting the EGO OPE...
Turned the flex junk off yesterday due to the BS they were spewing.
It was just soooo bad 😆
I'm late to the party. Why are so surprised by marketing? Every sponsored ad is like this. The marketing team was doing their job to make them look good. If your show is about testing tools, and you're not testing the tools, then you're not doing your job.