I used to be dead into old consoles, nowadays i just think there’s better stuff to spend money on but i still check back on these vids from time to time lol.
@@PaperBanjo64 Tbh, as long as you have the right CRT that you enjoy, then 2 is all you need, or even just 1. Admittedly I now have 6 and counting, just got my first HD CRT T.V (32" Samsung), didn't think that would be possible in the UK as they were not really a thing here unfortunately, it's imo the best possible display for playing everything from PS2 up to the 360, Wii looks awsome on it @ 576p EDTV mode through component. The rest are VGA monitors, I have some really nice ones like a Sony G520, a Sony GDM-5011p which is a pro graphics CRT with an incredible picture quality, I also just got a LaCie Blue IV (incredible monitor) and an LG Flatron 910SB.
I love how ppl are looking for image perfection, when the truth is... back in the day most of us played with bad cables on a tiny crappy CRT, often on the broken TV our parent gave us so we could play whenever we wanted. The image was not PVM level but bleeding and snowy.
I remember the day my parents bought me a 24 in Sanyo on sale, up to that point I only got to play on a 13 in I shared with my little sisters this made gaming completely different!
@@guyverjay1289 I was just pointing there is a difference between best retrogaming experience people advocate for and what retrogaming actually was back in the day. If you want to live what people experienced back in the day then maybe you should watch you movies on VHS ^__-
The nice thing about having boomer ears is that the audio comparison sections are just a really nice looping of the same lovely track for a minute or so!
Heard development was moving on this but had no idea they were anticipating a release this year! God that console needs it more than any other in my opinion lol...
Thank you for being a pillar in this community and continuing with up to date content. I bought my PVM and continued my collected because of this channel.
Wow, that’s the first time I’ve ever seen artificial scanlines look decent. I’d love to get a second set and have someone install this mod for me. These N64 RGB vids always make me wish there were more 2D games on the system, the colors just pop
A Sega Saturn HDMI mod really needs to happen. It would be called SSDigital. You plug in any mini HDMI cable into it just like the N64 Digital and DC Digital mods. I would love to see it someday!
[Try4ce] You can install basic RGB mods like the Voultar board alongside Ultra HDMI, and I'm pretty sure you can also install the Tim Worthington one alongside Ultra HDMI as well (but you should double-check first).
@@mylifeingaming It doesn’t work correctly with 1.08+ unless you replace the resistor array with 0-ohms and bypass the flexes with a couple of Borti’s breakouts that have resistors at the RCP. 1.07 seems to work if you use Borti’s breakout for the N64RGB.
[Try4ce] Although, I sorta feel like the point is more effective without a label! No placebo/bias making you think one is maaaaaybe actually a bit better!
Thanks for confirming that this mod doesn’t affect the console clock speed. I wish there was an NES HDMI mod that also kept the original console speed :( fantastic news for this console though. I’ll take an HDMI mod for any console that can maintain this!
Wow, this looks pretty incredible! I only use the HDMI converter when streaming the original consoles/ games, but it's definitely not the best picture. A lot of great info. In here for me think about! Cheers!
It's great to see this new RGB video on the N64Digital as I was thinking about trying to grab one during the next batch release. These videos are great and I have been watching your channel since RGB 101 was released years ago and I picked up my Framemeister and started my retro RGB journey. Keep up the good work guys!
I have to mention this right now. I really love the way how you guys do comparisons (side by side comparison frames) and I wish everyone would do it just like you.
Yes, I am in the second camp. I don't want to see blocky pixels on this gen of console that I grew up with, if I'm not on an emulator. I could do a cleaner "upscale" on an emulator, and I have both a gaming PC and a Pi4 (in a fetching old PlayStation case) attached to a 4k flat panel. I watch the videos to see what's out there though, it's certainly cool! And, to be fair, I have refurbished and recalibrated a happy little 90's Trinitron for the OG consoles. For a while, I didn't see the appeal of that, either, being too used to emulators without analog outputs and almost forgetting how the original experience differed. Then I saw that Pis have composite through the headphone jack, and RetroPie images had been created optimized for CRT... so I fixed the Trinitron, experienced relative greatness, and quickly got into OG hardware with mods and flashcarts.
Thanks guys! Seems like a worthy upgrade. Was hoping for another Phonedork collab,since you guys share a similar passion for the N64. *Patiently waits for Phonedorks round 2 N64 video.😆😭
This is really cool, but I'm happy with UltraHDMI for now. Thankfully I didn't spend a fortune on it, lucked out and got a kit on retail from Australia of all places. Still probably the most stressful soldering job I've ever done.
@@shhhhplsbequit It also adds lag and looks way worse. You don't have to get a full on HDMI mod for decent output though, actually good solutions start at $60 or so with RetroTink 2X-Mini / RAD2X. Or, you could probably find some random old CRT for 19 bucks or less and get a very good experience indeed.
ooo i'm so happy for this vid...i have a n64 digital from the first wave installed on my smoke gray n64. I am totally gunna mess with the H + V scanlines. It looks so freaking good in the video here. Its gunna look amazing on the CX i have
On my PC monitor, I always letterbox old/retro games for trueX scaling, as I massively prefer the pixel perfect sharpness over the larger size. Even if only ~60% of my screen is actually used, the trade-off is still worth it to me, as my monitor is quite large and the back borders don't bother me.
Even when the products are things I don't CURRENTLY plan to touch with a ten foot pole due to amongst other possibilities not being my cup of tea the way these vids are done just makes watching them really interesting. Kudos to the people in the community who keep interesting stuff like this coming.
Analogue - HEAD UP!!! Analogue is taking orders for Super Nt, Mega Sg and DACS right now. Started 8/9/21 at 8AM PDT. It's over 2 hours later and they still have some stock on ALL. If you want one GRAB IT NOW. Otherwise you may wait 6 months for another chance. I didn't know where else to put this except your latest video. Hope you don't mind but if any of your viewers wants one, I want them to have a chance.
*Games featured in this video (W.I.P.)* 0:19 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori) 0:29 - Mario Kart 64 0:38 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori) 1:12 - Pilotwings 64 1:20 - F-Zero X 1:26 - Dynamite Cop (Dynamite Deka 2) 1:28 - Threads of Fate 1:30 - Mother 3 1:59 - Mischief Makers 2:04 - Snowboard Kids 2 2:29 - Cruis'n World 4:02 - Fighting Force 4:07 - Buck Bumble 4:16 - Wonder Project J2 4:34 - Harvest Moon 64 4:41 - WinBack: Covert Operations (Operation: WinBack) 4:49 - Mario Party 2 4:53 - Extreme-G 4:59 - Killer Instict Gold 5:04 - Wave Race 64 5:09 - F-Zero X 5:40 - Super Smash Bros. (Link's Portrait) 5:49 - Gex: Enter the Gecko 6:05 - Skies of Arcadia 6:12 - Sonic Adventure 2 6:30 - Rocket: Robot on Wheels 6:40 - Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon 6:48 - F-Zero X 6:57 - Bomberman 64 7:10 - Pokémon Snap 7:19 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori) 7:40 - Pokémon Puzzle League 7:50 - Ridge Racer 64 7:59 - 240p Test Suite (Testing utility, not a game!) 8:06 - Pikachu Genki Dechuu (Hey You, Pikachu!) 8:13 - Chameleon Twist 8:31 - ??? (A Genesis game presumably) 8:35 - Golden Axe (Not sure if first or second installment) 9:00 - 1080° Snowboarding 9:05 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 9:26 - Bust-A-Move 2 Arcade Edition (Puzzle Bobble 2) 9:35 - Perfect Dark 9:54 - Goldeneye 007 10:01 - Iggy's Reckin' Balls 10:05 - Mario Kart: Super Circuit 10:20 - WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgames! 10:25 - Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade (Fire Emblem: Fuuin no Tsurugi) 10:31 - The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons 10:34 - Metroid: Zero Mission 10:40 - Super Mario 64 10:58 - Conker's Bad Fur Day 11:03 - Lylat Wars (Star Fox 64) 11:09 - Blast Corps 11:16 - Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards 11:40 - Mischief Makers 11:46 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 11:58 - Donkey Kong 64 12:07 - Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Forest) 12:27 - Banjo-Tooie 12:31 - Robotron 64 12:35 - Gauntlet Legends 12:42 - Spider-Man (2000) 12:47 - Super Smash Bros. 12:54 - Jet Force Gemini 13:09 - Rampage World Tour 13:30 - Cruis'n USA 13:48 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori) 14:07 - Quest 64 14:17 - Super Mario 64 14:32 - Paper Mario 14:54 - Mario Party 3 14:58 - Diddy Kong Racing 15:02 - Earthworm Jim 3D 15:05 - San Francisco Rush 2049 15:11 - Rayman 2: The Great Escape 15:27 - Goldeneye 007 15:46 - Wheel of Fortune 15:51 - Goemon: Mononoke Sugoroku 16:12 - Banjo-Kazooie 16:26 - Magical Tetris Challenge 16:30 - Mickey's Speedway USA 16:39 - ??? 16:45 - Super Mario 64 16:50 - ??? 16:53 - F-Zero X 17:05 - Wipeout 64 17:18 - Some racing game, there's like a bazillion racing games on the system I don't have the energy for this 17:25 - Mission Impossible 17:29 - Pokémon Stadium 2 17:37 - Tetrisphere 17:42 - Puyo Puyo~n Party 17:56 - Tonic Trouble 18:08 - Dinosaur Planet 18:17 - Mario Kart 64 18:27 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori) 18:53 - Cruis'n Exotica 19:09 - Resident Evil 2 19:18 - Shadow Man 19:22 - Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness 19:33 - Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine 19:42 - Star Wars: Rogue Squadron 19:49 - Pokémon Stadium 2 19:56 - Vigilante 8: 2nd Offense 20:17 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori) 20:31 - MRC: Multi-Racing Championship 20:37 - ??? 20:59 - Mario Golf 22:22 - Darkwing Duck (NES) / Chameleon Twist 2 22:34 - Beetle Adventure Racing! 22:41 - Mario Party 22:56 - ??? 23:17 - Star Fox 64 23:27 - Super Mario 64 23:37 - Puyo Puyo Sun 23:57 - Pokémon Snap 24:01 - Densha De Go! 64 24:14 - Turok: Dinosaur Hunter 24:19 - Dr. Mario 64 24:24 - Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers 24:28 - Blast Dozer 24:35 - Neon Genesis Evangelion 24:45 - Some Bomberman Game 24:55 - ??? 25:08 - Top Gear Rally 2 25:12 - G.A.S.P!! Fighters' NEXTream 25:17 - Mario Tennis 25:38 - F-Zero X 26:04 - ??? 26:13 - Fighter Destiny 2 26:19 - Hydro Thunder 26:25 - Aero Fighters Assault 26:29 - Aidyn Chronicles: The First Mage 26:34 - Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2 26:46 - Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero 26:50 - 007: The World Is Not Enough 27:02 - Yoshi's Story 27:10 - Mace: The Dark Age 27:20 - BattleTanx: Global Assault 27:30 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 27:39 - Rakugakids 27:45 - Excitebike 64 27:53 - F-Zero X 28:06 - Road Rash 64 28:16 - Top Gear Rally 28:37 - Xena: Warrior Princess: The Talisman of Fate 28:41 - Diddy Kong Racing 28:47 - Donkey Kong 64 28:56 - F-Zero X 29:01 - Super Smash Bros. 29:15 - F-Zero X I'd like to thank the academy and Google reverse image search for making this possible. Some titles were really hard to find without digging around online for a really long time, but I'll add them ASAP. If you know of a game I didn't include, feel free to let me know!
Part of me is happy to see a video on the PixelFX N64 HDMI mod. The other part know that I'm likely to miss out on the next batch of of them because of it (missed out the 1st round due to site acting up)
I was thinking of getting a digital solution because my N64+RetroTink5x look good with retrogamingcabkes s-video but it look noisy. But after seeing this, i learned that it is the n64 who make the noise even on a digital output.
I've found my preferred output option on both the N64 and the PS1 to be S-video, which works perfect for my setup anyways which consists of a Micomsoft XRGB-3 line-doubler with 2x S-video inputs. This allows me to save the 2 RGB inputs for my NES and Genesis.
also the cut method lets you re-attach the bottom metal RF shielding, which prevents something from poking in from below and causing a short (unlikely, but. still)
@@mylifeingaming you could have chose tons of other games! was it the music? the awesome title screen? its ok to love sometimes Try xD tbh I was really into it as a kid and my dad still plays it - I haven't been able to get into it lately - Chrono Trigger is the slowest RPG I can work with! atm x)
Wondering if you guys ever got or checked out Intecgamings HDMI RGB modded N64 system the "Warrior 64 that they did on Kickstarter last year? If so, what did you think of it? Would love to see a video of that from you guys. I consider it better , improves from the CRT look, its doing something. Things look sharper, other than its color saturation issues. I can hook up to my HDMI TVs an N64 system.
Even though I’ve got an UltraHDMI modded N64 and a (for my CRT) French PAL stock RGB modded system (as based in the UK); I’m still tempted! Will keep and eye on it as it develops and may sell the UltraHDMI system in the future. 🤔😅
As much as I enjoy these videos, sometimes I really struggle to see the differences in the side-by-side comparisons. Maybe it's UA-cam's compression, maybe it's my eyesight, but I have friends claim there's a night and day difference that I just don't see.
Watching on a phone, and same. Sometimes I think about re-watching in full screen on a large monitor, but if it takes that much scrutiny to tell, I just assume it’s negligible. :-)
You must watch on a tv and not a phone. Watch on the screen you would use to game on. On a 4k display, yes, its 99% of the time a big difference. If you ever get the chance to hook up any classic console up with the cables it came with to a new display, then hook it up via RGB ran into a OSSC/Retrotink 5x, its massively different. Not even close.
@@TheAlphaOmegaX3 that's the thing, I do tend to watch UA-cam through the PlayStation 5 app on a 4K TV and I often find myself going "Where's this massive jump between s-video and SCART?" "That SCART and HDMI output look identical to me though?" etc. Again, could be YT compression, could just be my eyesight. I'm not sensitive to dynamic resolutions or frame rates either.
@@WebstersUA-cam Yeah the scart and HDMI are very close. Either of those two in majority of situations are a big step up compared to composite or Svideo (using an upscaler) S video still look awsome on a CRT tv though!
@@WebstersUA-cam s-video and component look identical and the component vs scart is basically the exact same. I did a blind test when I got the hdretrovision cable with my sony trinitron using two N64's with the same game. couldn't tell a difference at all.
This is awesome. However, I think I'll buy a RetroTink 2X-Mini instead, for pricing reasons and because I'm unsure about hardware mods. (I like to preserve the console as it was.) I would have liked more comparisons between unmodded over S-Video (with a RetroTink) and N64Digital HDMI. (Thanks a lot for the video!!!)
[Try4ce] We've done a lot of S-video N64 stuff in our previous videos on the RetroTINK devices. I think the 2X Mini is a hugely practical choice for people who don't want to mod their N64! Includes an S-video cable and everything!
@@mylifeingaming Thanks! I'll order a premium S-Video cable from Insurrection Industries as soon as they put them on sale. Sadly, I think they are still in prototyping. :(
The aperture grill preset at 960p is my soft setting, and I go all in with deblur and AA patches for the ultra sharp pixelated look that is unique to digital displays. When you have a decent monitor there’s no real need to try and recreate the look
I recommend it, makes colors pop and cleans up the image really nicely even on a basic consumer CRT. Not many people talk about the classic RGB amps these days, but they're still a great option. Personally I even stuck with the built in csync since my board still had it, there's just something enjoyable about using the RGB circuitry Nintendo originally meant to ship.
Man, that vertical scanline really does look good. That's more what I think of when I think of CRT. Never liked regular horizontal lines cos, to me, it doesn't look like what it's trying to mimic. Sonic Mania had maybe the best CRT filter I've seen but this is right there with it. Do hope some modes start using HDR to give the games a little extra light to dark range to better match the brightness of a CRT some day. Hell, at a high enough resolution I imagine you could recreate how a CRT represents each part of a pixel in detail.
[Try4ce] Yeah it really does give it a nice crunchy consumer CRT look for sure! Regular scanlines just look like a PVM, which isn't what everyone is looking for.
@@mylifeingaming Hey Try, do you think you could share your scanline settings? I tried to catch it in the video, but the settings changed around a bit.
Could you guys do an episode for Repairing Games, Console or Controllers? Or an Editing tutorial because Your Channel has some of the best editing I have ever seen on youtube.
This makes me real bummed out about my place on the UltraHDMI group buy. I’d love to switch or get my UltraHDMI unit. That thing has been such a mess. The guys running it aren’t to blame, the supplier seems to have a been a real flake.
00:10:20 They could add an option to crop the picture from the GBA emulation to just the 240x160 frame and upscale that to the desired output resolution. They could even add 3:2 resolutions for GBA games, such as 720x480, which is not only a common resolution but is also a perfect 3X scale of the GBA frame. While GBA on the N64 may seem like a low priority, it's nice for those who like a single machine to be able to play games from multiple consoles.
Man deblur makes such a huge difference. It's like wiping the vaseline off of the screen. In my personal opinion that's the primary reason for getting and installing this thing. Otherwise, most of these HDMI mods are only marginally better than just using SCART+OSSC.
N64 should always be played on a CRT with scanlines @ either 240p or 480p, if you own a VGA/BVM/PVM monitor, then that's what it will look it's best on. I would really love a N64 with native VGA/640x480p out. That said though, I'm really looking forward to a Mister FPGA N64 core finally being released, native N64 @ 1080p/1440p/etc, plus scanline options and whatnot.
[Try4ce] I originally wrote a mention of it, but took it out because one, there's nothing to show for it, and two, I don't really understand the point? You'd need a custom component cable to use it, and I'm not even sure where you'd get one. I feel you'd be just as well off converting RGB to YPbPr externally, either with HD Retrovision cables or a converter like the RetroTINK RGB2Comp.
@@mylifeingamingwell it's easy now to get n64 comp cable at retro access (where i got one) or make your own with something like a psp component cable (i have this too). i already use ypbpr out via borti's advancedrgb mod for n64. i'm a mario 64 speedrunner who wanted better quality for my stream/recordings, but still be able to play on a consumer crt. ypbpr out is the perfect solution for me, it goes ypbpr out into component splitter and then one signal into component input on my consumer trinitron and then another into ossc into capture card. i wanted n64digital to streamline my setup and allow me to just do dual output hdmi into cap card and then ypbpr into my crt. also, i have the rgb2comp retrotink and it is not fun to play on. it might be fine for casual play but there are noticeable artifacts, especially on textures with a lot of horizontal lines, such as the pyramid in SSL on mario64. if it worked well then i would have just used that setup. i encourage anyone who is able to, to test using rgb2comp vs straight ypbpr. it doesn't look the same. as for hdretrovision cables, i cannot speak on those. i haven't tried them but ideally i don't want to convert colorspaces or do any analog to digital conversions either for capturing. here's to hoping ypbpr out on n64digi comes out sooner rather than later.
I just wish they would set up a queue system + prepayment. I don't want to wait around for months for them to open up sales for 30 seconds on a Tuesday morning.
The Nintendo 64, is my favorite video game console of all time, the N64Digital is something I really want to install into my N64 to complete that love. Unfortunately, I just can't afford something like that at this point in time. It would be great if I could get something like this, but alas, it is what it is. Besides, there are RGB mods that are far cheaper as of right now and if anything, I might get one of those before any sort of HDMI mod. Also, I have no soldering skills whatsoever so, yeah, any mods will have to either be done for me or will have to be pre-installed in the system.
Knew this day would come, and it might be time to go N64Digital for my already UltraHDMI N64. But yeah, good luck getting one b/c getting one is as hard as getting a PS1 Digital too
00:09:49 It would be nice to add a 16:10 aspect ratio option for Donkey Kong 64, which if I'm not mistaken, runs in an FOV of 16:10 in the widescreen mode. 16x10 resolutions would go along well with that, such as 1280x800 or 1440x900.
My experience with N64 RGB differs from the assessment in this video. My TV looked much better with an N64 RGB MOD by Arthrimus tech (I believe based on Borti's) + OSSC over s video + Retrotink mini. Both with deblur on or off look far better than the stock S video. Unsure how much of that is due to the upscaler, but I'm using a cheap Aliexpress OSSC.
[Try4ce] I think on a CRT the jump is really small. With an upscaler, the jump is more noticeable, certainly. But much less noticeable than the jump to RGB for other systems, I feel.
I love watching these videos regardless of if I will use the product or play the game
The oldest console I own/use is the Ds lite, I still love these videos
@@-aexc- the oldest one I own is the atari 2600…
@@ZENITH_System_3 I mean, I am 19 years old so I didn't have a chance to use anything much older
@@-aexc- I’m not saying that is bad or anything
I used to be dead into old consoles, nowadays i just think there’s better stuff to spend money on but i still check back on these vids from time to time lol.
I have five CRTs and never intend to go HDMI with 64 buy I'm still watching this because this series has been so great. Glad to see another entry
Only 5?
Cool I love I only have 2, a 13 inch RF only Orion and a 27 inch flat screen Emerson from 2005 with S video.
@@PaperBanjo64 Tbh, as long as you have the right CRT that you enjoy, then 2 is all you need, or even just 1. Admittedly I now have 6 and counting, just got my first HD CRT T.V (32" Samsung), didn't think that would be possible in the UK as they were not really a thing here unfortunately, it's imo the best possible display for playing everything from PS2 up to the 360, Wii looks awsome on it @ 576p EDTV mode through component. The rest are VGA monitors, I have some really nice ones like a Sony G520, a Sony GDM-5011p which is a pro graphics CRT with an incredible picture quality, I also just got a LaCie Blue IV (incredible monitor) and an LG Flatron 910SB.
I use a newer TV but it has an RGB scart input so I use this with consoles.... But don't have an n64
I love how ppl are looking for image perfection, when the truth is... back in the day most of us played with bad cables on a tiny crappy CRT, often on the broken TV our parent gave us so we could play whenever we wanted. The image was not PVM level but bleeding and snowy.
So true.
I remember the day my parents bought me a 24 in Sanyo on sale, up to that point I only got to play on a 13 in I shared with my little sisters this made gaming completely different!
With N64, it’s already quite ugly. Plus if you want a clear image, just emulate!
Yeah so? By that rationale I should watch all my movies on a vhs
@@guyverjay1289 I was just pointing there is a difference between best retrogaming experience people advocate for and what retrogaming actually was back in the day.
If you want to live what people experienced back in the day then maybe you should watch you movies on VHS ^__-
The nice thing about having boomer ears is that the audio comparison sections are just a really nice looping of the same lovely track for a minute or so!
My plan is to add the HDMI on my childhood N64.
Same, my day one launch N64 needs HDMI. ;)
I love my N64RGB + OSSC setup, but I'm so glad that there's another option out there for people who want HDMI output from their N64.
You guys always do such thorough reviews from every angle of these products. Thank you for the time and effort you put into theses videos.
Ohhh this is nice!!!! They're even making the PS2Digital and I can't wait for that to drop!!!!
REALLY? YESSSS
@@TailsGuy72 Yeah Dan himself said it'll come this year.
Heard development was moving on this but had no idea they were anticipating a release this year! God that console needs it more than any other in my opinion lol...
Love that you guys roll footage of threads of fate, such an under appreciated game.
Thank you for being a pillar in this community and continuing with up to date content. I bought my PVM and continued my collected because of this channel.
I was hoping to see you guys cover this one! Thanks for the super thorough overview as always.
I agree, and the difference between S-video and RGB is not mind blowing. The deblur function does make a difference but not worth the cost.
Wow, that’s the first time I’ve ever seen artificial scanlines look decent. I’d love to get a second set and have someone install this mod for me. These N64 RGB vids always make me wish there were more 2D games on the system, the colors just pop
its a REALLY easy install compared to the ps1digital, thankfully
Oh, they are gorgeous: twitter.com/retrostage/status/1422129987075952641?s=19
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those vertical lines are gorgeous! im going to enable it tonight. i love this video, it taught me so much about my n64digital
If you have an early N64, there's a relatively easy and cheap mod you can do for RGB out, and it's worth it imo.
@@aidanb4477 He doesn't want rgb out.
A Sega Saturn HDMI mod really needs to happen. It would be called SSDigital. You plug in any mini HDMI cable into it just like the N64 Digital and DC Digital mods. I would love to see it someday!
I'm envious of this mod! I have the first-gen Ultra HDMI and think it's fantastic, but man, also having RGB support? That would be excellent.
[Try4ce] You can install basic RGB mods like the Voultar board alongside Ultra HDMI, and I'm pretty sure you can also install the Tim Worthington one alongside Ultra HDMI as well (but you should double-check first).
@@mylifeingaming It doesn’t work correctly with 1.08+ unless you replace the resistor array with 0-ohms and bypass the flexes with a couple of Borti’s breakouts that have resistors at the RCP. 1.07 seems to work if you use Borti’s breakout for the N64RGB.
Glad I waited on this
13:20 - This is why you label the files as you record them!
[Try4ce] Although, I sorta feel like the point is more effective without a label! No placebo/bias making you think one is maaaaaybe actually a bit better!
Left is smoother and less jaggy. Right has slightly better detail at the sacrifice of more jagged lines.
can't believe you got lost in the comparison
Bring back Dave, whether he wants it or not!
Its *ALWAYS* better with two in the sack.
i hope dave is well.
Fantastic video as always! Liking these new features. But not enough of an upgrade when you already have the UltraHDMI.
Thanks for confirming that this mod doesn’t affect the console clock speed. I wish there was an NES HDMI mod that also kept the original console speed :( fantastic news for this console though. I’ll take an HDMI mod for any console that can maintain this!
Wow, this looks pretty incredible! I only use the HDMI converter when streaming the original consoles/ games, but it's definitely not the best picture. A lot of great info. In here for me think about! Cheers!
19:55 Poor Bob! We all need to respect him more. :-P
Love all the sound tests, even though I’m so deaf I can barely tell the difference between Genesis 1 and 2 models :D
It's great to see this new RGB video on the N64Digital as I was thinking about trying to grab one during the next batch release. These videos are great and I have been watching your channel since RGB 101 was released years ago and I picked up my Framemeister and started my retro RGB journey. Keep up the good work guys!
Perfect. I've wanted both RGB and HDMI.. RGB if I'm just playing.. But HDMI if I have a game night.
FINALLY! Have been silently waiting in the shadows with money for someone to figure this out. It's the last console that I own that I can't upscale.
The level of extra just to get these things onto the old consoles leaves alot to be desired but fascinating none the less.
I have to mention this right now. I really love the way how you guys do comparisons (side by side comparison frames) and I wish everyone would do it just like you.
[Try4ce] I think there's value in cutting between versions too though. Sometimes that makes it easier to spot really subtle differences.
love how detailed these videos are.
Installed one of these recently for a local collector. Needless to say I didn't want to give it back to him with how awesome it makes N64 games look.
coolest mod ever
Fantastic t-shirt Coury
Yes, I am in the second camp. I don't want to see blocky pixels on this gen of console that I grew up with, if I'm not on an emulator. I could do a cleaner "upscale" on an emulator, and I have both a gaming PC and a Pi4 (in a fetching old PlayStation case) attached to a 4k flat panel. I watch the videos to see what's out there though, it's certainly cool!
And, to be fair, I have refurbished and recalibrated a happy little 90's Trinitron for the OG consoles. For a while, I didn't see the appeal of that, either, being too used to emulators without analog outputs and almost forgetting how the original experience differed. Then I saw that Pis have composite through the headphone jack, and RetroPie images had been created optimized for CRT... so I fixed the Trinitron, experienced relative greatness, and quickly got into OG hardware with mods and flashcarts.
Thanks guys! Seems like a worthy upgrade. Was hoping for another Phonedork collab,since you guys share a similar passion for the N64.
*Patiently waits for Phonedorks round 2 N64 video.😆😭
OMG
this video just makes the wait for the restock all the more difficult
This is really cool, but I'm happy with UltraHDMI for now. Thankfully I didn't spend a fortune on it, lucked out and got a kit on retail from Australia of all places. Still probably the most stressful soldering job I've ever done.
@@shhhhplsbequit It also adds lag and looks way worse. You don't have to get a full on HDMI mod for decent output though, actually good solutions start at $60 or so with RetroTink 2X-Mini / RAD2X.
Or, you could probably find some random old CRT for 19 bucks or less and get a very good experience indeed.
ooo i'm so happy for this vid...i have a n64 digital from the first wave installed on my smoke gray n64. I am totally gunna mess with the H + V scanlines. It looks so freaking good in the video here. Its gunna look amazing on the CX i have
I’m intrigued but I’ve got to imagine the mod isn’t cheap and the cost to install it is steep.
On my PC monitor, I always letterbox old/retro games for trueX scaling, as I massively prefer the pixel perfect sharpness over the larger size.
Even if only ~60% of my screen is actually used, the trade-off is still worth it to me, as my monitor is quite large and the back borders don't bother me.
Even when the products are things I don't CURRENTLY plan to touch with a ten foot pole due to amongst other possibilities not being my cup of tea the way these vids are done just makes watching them really interesting. Kudos to the people in the community who keep interesting stuff like this coming.
Analogue - HEAD UP!!!
Analogue is taking orders for Super Nt, Mega Sg and DACS right now. Started 8/9/21 at 8AM PDT. It's over 2 hours later and they still have some stock on ALL. If you want one GRAB IT NOW. Otherwise you may wait 6 months for another chance.
I didn't know where else to put this except your latest video. Hope you don't mind but if any of your viewers wants one, I want them to have a chance.
Can’t wait to watch this after work!
I was JUST thinking about this yesterday- great timing, guys 😁
18:07 DINOSAUR PLANET!
*Games featured in this video (W.I.P.)*
0:19 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori)
0:29 - Mario Kart 64
0:38 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori)
1:12 - Pilotwings 64
1:20 - F-Zero X
1:26 - Dynamite Cop (Dynamite Deka 2)
1:28 - Threads of Fate
1:30 - Mother 3
1:59 - Mischief Makers
2:04 - Snowboard Kids 2
2:29 - Cruis'n World
4:02 - Fighting Force
4:07 - Buck Bumble
4:16 - Wonder Project J2
4:34 - Harvest Moon 64
4:41 - WinBack: Covert Operations (Operation: WinBack)
4:49 - Mario Party 2
4:53 - Extreme-G
4:59 - Killer Instict Gold
5:04 - Wave Race 64
5:09 - F-Zero X
5:40 - Super Smash Bros. (Link's Portrait)
5:49 - Gex: Enter the Gecko
6:05 - Skies of Arcadia
6:12 - Sonic Adventure 2
6:30 - Rocket: Robot on Wheels
6:40 - Mystical Ninja Starring Goemon
6:48 - F-Zero X
6:57 - Bomberman 64
7:10 - Pokémon Snap
7:19 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori)
7:40 - Pokémon Puzzle League
7:50 - Ridge Racer 64
7:59 - 240p Test Suite (Testing utility, not a game!)
8:06 - Pikachu Genki Dechuu (Hey You, Pikachu!)
8:13 - Chameleon Twist
8:31 - ??? (A Genesis game presumably)
8:35 - Golden Axe (Not sure if first or second installment)
9:00 - 1080° Snowboarding
9:05 - The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
9:26 - Bust-A-Move 2 Arcade Edition (Puzzle Bobble 2)
9:35 - Perfect Dark
9:54 - Goldeneye 007
10:01 - Iggy's Reckin' Balls
10:05 - Mario Kart: Super Circuit
10:20 - WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgames!
10:25 - Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade (Fire Emblem: Fuuin no Tsurugi)
10:31 - The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons
10:34 - Metroid: Zero Mission
10:40 - Super Mario 64
10:58 - Conker's Bad Fur Day
11:03 - Lylat Wars (Star Fox 64)
11:09 - Blast Corps
11:16 - Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards
11:40 - Mischief Makers
11:46 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
11:58 - Donkey Kong 64
12:07 - Dōbutsu no Mori (Animal Forest)
12:27 - Banjo-Tooie
12:31 - Robotron 64
12:35 - Gauntlet Legends
12:42 - Spider-Man (2000)
12:47 - Super Smash Bros.
12:54 - Jet Force Gemini
13:09 - Rampage World Tour
13:30 - Cruis'n USA
13:48 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori)
14:07 - Quest 64
14:17 - Super Mario 64
14:32 - Paper Mario
14:54 - Mario Party 3
14:58 - Diddy Kong Racing
15:02 - Earthworm Jim 3D
15:05 - San Francisco Rush 2049
15:11 - Rayman 2: The Great Escape
15:27 - Goldeneye 007
15:46 - Wheel of Fortune
15:51 - Goemon: Mononoke Sugoroku
16:12 - Banjo-Kazooie
16:26 - Magical Tetris Challenge
16:30 - Mickey's Speedway USA
16:39 - ???
16:45 - Super Mario 64
16:50 - ???
16:53 - F-Zero X
17:05 - Wipeout 64
17:18 - Some racing game, there's like a bazillion racing games on the system I don't have the energy for this
17:25 - Mission Impossible
17:29 - Pokémon Stadium 2
17:37 - Tetrisphere
17:42 - Puyo Puyo~n Party
17:56 - Tonic Trouble
18:08 - Dinosaur Planet
18:17 - Mario Kart 64
18:27 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori)
18:53 - Cruis'n Exotica
19:09 - Resident Evil 2
19:18 - Shadow Man
19:22 - Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness
19:33 - Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
19:42 - Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
19:49 - Pokémon Stadium 2
19:56 - Vigilante 8: 2nd Offense
20:17 - Goemon's Great Adventure (Ganbare Goemon: Derodero Dōchū Obake Tenko Mori)
20:31 - MRC: Multi-Racing Championship
20:37 - ???
20:59 - Mario Golf
22:22 - Darkwing Duck (NES) / Chameleon Twist 2
22:34 - Beetle Adventure Racing!
22:41 - Mario Party
22:56 - ???
23:17 - Star Fox 64
23:27 - Super Mario 64
23:37 - Puyo Puyo Sun
23:57 - Pokémon Snap
24:01 - Densha De Go! 64
24:14 - Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
24:19 - Dr. Mario 64
24:24 - Donald Duck: Goin' Quackers
24:28 - Blast Dozer
24:35 - Neon Genesis Evangelion
24:45 - Some Bomberman Game
24:55 - ???
25:08 - Top Gear Rally 2
25:12 - G.A.S.P!! Fighters' NEXTream
25:17 - Mario Tennis
25:38 - F-Zero X
26:04 - ???
26:13 - Fighter Destiny 2
26:19 - Hydro Thunder
26:25 - Aero Fighters Assault
26:29 - Aidyn Chronicles: The First Mage
26:34 - Ready 2 Rumble Boxing: Round 2
26:46 - Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero
26:50 - 007: The World Is Not Enough
27:02 - Yoshi's Story
27:10 - Mace: The Dark Age
27:20 - BattleTanx: Global Assault
27:30 - The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
27:39 - Rakugakids
27:45 - Excitebike 64
27:53 - F-Zero X
28:06 - Road Rash 64
28:16 - Top Gear Rally
28:37 - Xena: Warrior Princess: The Talisman of Fate
28:41 - Diddy Kong Racing
28:47 - Donkey Kong 64
28:56 - F-Zero X
29:01 - Super Smash Bros.
29:15 - F-Zero X
I'd like to thank the academy and Google reverse image search for making this possible. Some titles were really hard to find without digging around online for a really long time, but I'll add them ASAP. If you know of a game I didn't include, feel free to let me know!
the hero we need, thanks a lot 👍
5//4 was a popular format before and in early 2000s
it's SXGA standard popular for 17" screens
This is so cool and so well done by Try and Coury. Thanks guys!
yay new MLIG!
Great to see you guys back!
Part of me is happy to see a video on the PixelFX N64 HDMI mod. The other part know that I'm likely to miss out on the next batch of of them because of it (missed out the 1st round due to site acting up)
First time watching an MLG video in months and wow the intro music still kills ❤️
UltraHDMI HW2’s menu hotkey toggles Deblur settings when HDMI is disconnected. Hope they can add that with N64Digital.
I was thinking of getting a digital solution because my N64+RetroTink5x look good with retrogamingcabkes s-video but it look noisy. But after seeing this, i learned that it is the n64 who make the noise even on a digital output.
[Try4ce] Happy to clear that up for you. Yes that's just a thing the system does!
The green N64 console reminds me of a dream I had that the consoles came in different colours like the controllers. I guess it was true.
I've found my preferred output option on both the N64 and the PS1 to be S-video, which works perfect for my setup anyways which consists of a Micomsoft XRGB-3 line-doubler with 2x S-video inputs. This allows me to save the 2 RGB inputs for my NES and Genesis.
I'm guessing your NES is RGB modded then.
also the cut method lets you re-attach the bottom metal RF shielding, which prevents something from poking in from below and causing a short (unlikely, but. still)
Finally! I’m so excited to here your opinions. Sucks I couldn’t order mine.
These guys definitely deserve more subscribers ♥️❤️ keep up the good work!
Like the custom GBA Consolizer case!
Wow a brand new video on my Birthday, gonna save this one for tonight and watch it with a bit of wine!
Happy birthday, dude
I have no interest in retro consoles on HD TVs and monitors but I enjoy all My Life in Gaming videos.
This episode made me interested in a mod that I'm probably never going to buy! 😆
Wow Ogre Battle 64 got some love. What a nice surprise xD
[Try4ce] I wish I could say it was love, but I've never been able to get into it! I do respect it though!
@@mylifeingaming you could have chose tons of other games! was it the music? the awesome title screen? its ok to love sometimes Try xD tbh I was really into it as a kid and my dad still plays it - I haven't been able to get into it lately - Chrono Trigger is the slowest RPG I can work with! atm x)
You're right, Bob does get a bad rep. Have you seen all that stuff Voultar says about him? Jeez.
Wondering if you guys ever got or checked out Intecgamings HDMI RGB modded N64 system the "Warrior 64 that they did on Kickstarter last year? If so, what did you think of it? Would love to see a video of that from you guys. I consider it better , improves from the CRT look, its doing something. Things look sharper, other than its color saturation issues. I can hook up to my HDMI TVs an N64 system.
Even though I’ve got an UltraHDMI modded N64 and a (for my CRT) French PAL stock RGB modded system (as based in the UK); I’m still tempted! Will keep and eye on it as it develops and may sell the UltraHDMI system in the future. 🤔😅
Ok.
As much as I enjoy these videos, sometimes I really struggle to see the differences in the side-by-side comparisons. Maybe it's UA-cam's compression, maybe it's my eyesight, but I have friends claim there's a night and day difference that I just don't see.
Watching on a phone, and same. Sometimes I think about re-watching in full screen on a large monitor, but if it takes that much scrutiny to tell, I just assume it’s negligible. :-)
You must watch on a tv and not a phone. Watch on the screen you would use to game on. On a 4k display, yes, its 99% of the time a big difference. If you ever get the chance to hook up any classic console up with the cables it came with to a new display, then hook it up via RGB ran into a OSSC/Retrotink 5x, its massively different. Not even close.
@@TheAlphaOmegaX3 that's the thing, I do tend to watch UA-cam through the PlayStation 5 app on a 4K TV and I often find myself going "Where's this massive jump between s-video and SCART?" "That SCART and HDMI output look identical to me though?" etc. Again, could be YT compression, could just be my eyesight. I'm not sensitive to dynamic resolutions or frame rates either.
@@WebstersUA-cam Yeah the scart and HDMI are very close. Either of those two in majority of situations are a big step up compared to composite or Svideo (using an upscaler) S video still look awsome on a CRT tv though!
@@WebstersUA-cam s-video and component look identical and the component vs scart is basically the exact same. I did a blind test when I got the hdretrovision cable with my sony trinitron using two N64's with the same game. couldn't tell a difference at all.
It’s here!
Amazing video guys, as always!
This is awesome. However, I think I'll buy a RetroTink 2X-Mini instead, for pricing reasons and because I'm unsure about hardware mods. (I like to preserve the console as it was.)
I would have liked more comparisons between unmodded over S-Video (with a RetroTink) and N64Digital HDMI.
(Thanks a lot for the video!!!)
[Try4ce] We've done a lot of S-video N64 stuff in our previous videos on the RetroTINK devices. I think the 2X Mini is a hugely practical choice for people who don't want to mod their N64! Includes an S-video cable and everything!
@@mylifeingaming Thanks! I'll order a premium S-Video cable from Insurrection Industries as soon as they put them on sale. Sadly, I think they are still in prototyping. :(
Ive had Ultra Hdmi for years, maybe if I ever buy another N64 console Ill check this out.
I still like my ultra HDMI kit!!!
The polyphaser sampler bit plus the music makes me wonder if those developers don't actually work for the Gestalian Empire under Kefka's supersivion.
Yes! I have been excited for this!
The aperture grill preset at 960p is my soft setting, and I go all in with deblur and AA patches for the ultra sharp pixelated look that is unique to digital displays. When you have a decent monitor there’s no real need to try and recreate the look
I have an early N64 and haven’t done the RGB mod, but plan to soon.
I recommend it, makes colors pop and cleans up the image really nicely even on a basic consumer CRT. Not many people talk about the classic RGB amps these days, but they're still a great option. Personally I even stuck with the built in csync since my board still had it, there's just something enjoyable about using the RGB circuitry Nintendo originally meant to ship.
Man, that vertical scanline really does look good. That's more what I think of when I think of CRT. Never liked regular horizontal lines cos, to me, it doesn't look like what it's trying to mimic. Sonic Mania had maybe the best CRT filter I've seen but this is right there with it. Do hope some modes start using HDR to give the games a little extra light to dark range to better match the brightness of a CRT some day. Hell, at a high enough resolution I imagine you could recreate how a CRT represents each part of a pixel in detail.
[Try4ce] Yeah it really does give it a nice crunchy consumer CRT look for sure! Regular scanlines just look like a PVM, which isn't what everyone is looking for.
@@mylifeingaming Hey Try, do you think you could share your scanline settings? I tried to catch it in the video, but the settings changed around a bit.
Could you guys do an episode for Repairing Games, Console or Controllers? Or an Editing tutorial because Your Channel has some of the best editing I have ever seen on youtube.
28:06 alright Road Rash 64 made the cut! love that game.
This makes me real bummed out about my place on the UltraHDMI group buy. I’d love to switch or get my UltraHDMI unit. That thing has been such a mess. The guys running it aren’t to blame, the supplier seems to have a been a real flake.
Update - I got a refund for my UltraHDMI and got an N64Digital and just got it back from being installed! It’s great, highly recommended!
00:10:20 They could add an option to crop the picture from the GBA emulation to just the 240x160 frame and upscale that to the desired output resolution.
They could even add 3:2 resolutions for GBA games, such as 720x480, which is not only a common resolution but is also a perfect 3X scale of the GBA frame.
While GBA on the N64 may seem like a low priority, it's nice for those who like a single machine to be able to play games from multiple consoles.
Just want to say I love you guy so much.
22:04 Magma Peak is a hell of a track
Man deblur makes such a huge difference. It's like wiping the vaseline off of the screen. In my personal opinion that's the primary reason for getting and installing this thing. Otherwise, most of these HDMI mods are only marginally better than just using SCART+OSSC.
Been wanting to get into the N64 RGB+Deblur scene. The Sega Saturn scene was already expensive enough to get into even without the RGB cables.
N64 should always be played on a CRT with scanlines @ either 240p or 480p, if you own a VGA/BVM/PVM monitor, then that's what it will look it's best on. I would really love a N64 with native VGA/640x480p out. That said though, I'm really looking forward to a Mister FPGA N64 core finally being released, native N64 @ 1080p/1440p/etc, plus scanline options and whatnot.
Just what I needed in my life.
Love to see another episode of RGB!
Been waiting for this!!!!
Love these videos! Thank you.
really bummed that ypbpr analog out was advertised as a launch feature but it's still not available yet, and u didn't even mention it 😭😭😭😭😭
[Try4ce] I originally wrote a mention of it, but took it out because one, there's nothing to show for it, and two, I don't really understand the point? You'd need a custom component cable to use it, and I'm not even sure where you'd get one. I feel you'd be just as well off converting RGB to YPbPr externally, either with HD Retrovision cables or a converter like the RetroTINK RGB2Comp.
@@mylifeingamingwell it's easy now to get n64 comp cable at retro access (where i got one) or make your own with something like a psp component cable (i have this too). i already use ypbpr out via borti's advancedrgb mod for n64. i'm a mario 64 speedrunner who wanted better quality for my stream/recordings, but still be able to play on a consumer crt. ypbpr out is the perfect solution for me, it goes ypbpr out into component splitter and then one signal into component input on my consumer trinitron and then another into ossc into capture card.
i wanted n64digital to streamline my setup and allow me to just do dual output hdmi into cap card and then ypbpr into my crt. also, i have the rgb2comp retrotink and it is not fun to play on. it might be fine for casual play but there are noticeable artifacts, especially on textures with a lot of horizontal lines, such as the pyramid in SSL on mario64. if it worked well then i would have just used that setup. i encourage anyone who is able to, to test using rgb2comp vs straight ypbpr. it doesn't look the same.
as for hdretrovision cables, i cannot speak on those. i haven't tried them but ideally i don't want to convert colorspaces or do any analog to digital conversions either for capturing. here's to hoping ypbpr out on n64digi comes out sooner rather than later.
I wonder if they will do the NES next the HDMI mod for that console hasn't been restocked in years.
Too real to be real! 😮
I just wish they would set up a queue system + prepayment. I don't want to wait around for months for them to open up sales for 30 seconds on a Tuesday morning.
Well done, per usual!!
The Nintendo 64, is my favorite video game console of all time, the N64Digital is something I really want to install into my N64 to complete that love. Unfortunately, I just can't afford something like that at this point in time. It would be great if I could get something like this, but alas, it is what it is. Besides, there are RGB mods that are far cheaper as of right now and if anything, I might get one of those before any sort of HDMI mod. Also, I have no soldering skills whatsoever so, yeah, any mods will have to either be done for me or will have to be pre-installed in the system.
13:39 looks like you guys have an audio sync glitch at this point in the video. That said, nicely done as always.
[Try4ce] No, that's old footage of me from our old N64 video, it's not supposed to have any audio from the original video.
@@mylifeingaming Fair enough. Still liked the content as always. Looking forward to the next RGB Masterclass video.
Maybe some day i will mod my system with this. Sadly the Ultra HDMI mod is cost prohibitive for some. Great video!
I perfer to keep original console fully factory to keep their authenticity.
Love the Alien shirt!
Knew this day would come, and it might be time to go N64Digital for my already UltraHDMI N64. But yeah, good luck getting one b/c getting one is as hard as getting a PS1 Digital too
00:09:49 It would be nice to add a 16:10 aspect ratio option for Donkey Kong 64, which if I'm not mistaken, runs in an FOV of 16:10 in the widescreen mode.
16x10 resolutions would go along well with that, such as 1280x800 or 1440x900.
My experience with N64 RGB differs from the assessment in this video. My TV looked much better with an N64 RGB MOD by Arthrimus tech (I believe based on Borti's) + OSSC over s video + Retrotink mini. Both with deblur on or off look far better than the stock S video. Unsure how much of that is due to the upscaler, but I'm using a cheap Aliexpress OSSC.
[Try4ce] I think on a CRT the jump is really small. With an upscaler, the jump is more noticeable, certainly. But much less noticeable than the jump to RGB for other systems, I feel.
love that jonesy t-shirt