Sooo, if the third woman, Deanna, was said to have gone for a hike, but was possibly a danger to herself, how long I wonder, would it take a tracker dog to find her? I mean, if she’d robbed a bank, they’d have searched for her, no? 🤔
Look how fast they found those two indigenous brothers in Saskatchewan last week. Not saying they should let them run rampant, but it does show how quickly they can find someone dead or alive
Ashley was just above and beyond amazing we grew up in St Kitts to gather…. going to YMCA dances and just being around the same circle ….Ashelys dad was so right, her smile was so infectious and she just was so loving and fun!!!!!! Miss her dearly xoxox RIP Ashley
Nova Scotia is currently experiencing the “slip ups” and “oversights” of RCMP now, as Portapique and Pictou County area families are dealing with the special privileges being offered to senior officers who are speaking before the Inquiry Committee that is overseen by the RCMP…..Those involved in the mass shooting in April 18-19, 2020 involving 23 victims over 13 hours….. an absolute mess from the start…..
@@TheBasedCanadian how would joining an institution one already doesn't support be productive? You really think one Mountie could change things from within?
@@TheBasedCanadian I bet it is, this is why some of these things happen to innocent people and they, the RCMP don't help, you really need to WAKE UPPPPPPPP
We need our own private investigators to look at these tragic stories. And investigators who actually care about finding the truth and justice. Our court system needs a complete overhaul. The judges are always aiding and abetting the worst criminals our country has ever seen. Kinda looks like they have something to hide.. Otherwise they would want answers too..
I remember, I thought the same thing the RCMP just don’t seem to care. Breaks my heart. I hope they find these women💔I used to live out at Silver Creek a massive area.
Such a grand name, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police but, sorry, as these crime shows show, they seem incompetent and uncaring. Sad and quite infuriating.
The RCMP are not a police institution but a political institution. They represent the wealthy, and government, not the people, certainly not lower income people...
@@renedragmazzaroth8879 well, they did that, but they weren't created specifically for that purpose. No need to exaggerate, the evil speaks for itself.
@@laurastuart3814 if you know you know. My family was harassed for years. But all you have to do is google RCMP cases they screwed up. For example Rober Piston used the streets of BC to murder indigenous women FOR YEARS and they didn’t give two shits
@@laurastuart3814 highway of tears did show that the police didn't give a damn about the native women and only got involved when a white girl went missing. That was decades ago and nothing has changed since.
This is only part of the problem. You have people who want change and don’t vote. If you/ we aren’t happy, we need to step up and be the change. It’s fine and dandy to have an opinion even if I believe you’re right, if people like you don’t get involved we’ll never see effective change.
"I hope this was good enough for you. You can't go to the press again." rcmp prioritizing its tarnished image over lives every time. It's good to see in the comment section of every investigation they are involved with that people know what a joke of an organization that is. There is essentially no one that would assume they would take any of these cases seriously. I've never seen an organization more resistant to actually doing work.
I cannot fathom how the RMCP are not dismantled. How many crimes are documented where the rcmp have dropped the ball, incompetence isnt possible of that scale, this is clearly something else.
It's no secret RCMP don't or never once investigate missing indigenous why bother interviewing knotsees RCMP on missing indigenous, what a waste of time 😖
The family might have been in danger of they went to that location. Or the family might have hurt ppl at the location. possible reasons why RCMP didn't divulge that.
Hard to believe the RCMP isn't involved in most of these "Missing" cases. There are far too many in this part of Canada. I find it disturbing and unsettling to say the least. Something is definately going on.
The RCMP have lost credibility. I'm sure there are a few who do take their job seriously, but you often see write ups in Canadian papers about RCMP incompetence, sexism and corruption.
This is a devastating episode. I’m so sorry to the many family and friends affected by this. I cannot imagine the pain of not knowing. I will say tho that the police are not the cause of this. We must be vigilant with our loved ones.
how the hell is this man STILL walking the streets! come one Canadian justice system stop failing vulnerable/high risk women or ANY PERSON FOR THAT MATTER!
Amazing. 11 days after ... family makes a missing person report. Then another three weeks until the RCMP made a press release? Wow. I feel terrible for the 4th girl. I too was a runaway teen and nobody made a poster or looked for me either. May she rest in peace ❤
They aren’t just indigenous women and girls. And it’s dishonest to pretend these cases are easy. The real issue is male deviancy and misogynist violence.
Why? What made you suspicious…..just honestly asking out of curiosity. I listen to my gut so I understand the uneasy feelings some people can get when encountering someone or something..
my step brother is native and with all he has told me and what i have experienced myself.. the RCMP are the worst!! They have not got the training that they need there for they dont care especially when there is a native man or woman in concerned i have seen this with my own eyes! I pray with all my heart all these woman and others are found.
scary how me and her are from the same reserve and the way I found out she was missing is when my family went to enderby bridge and went swimming under the bridge their was flyers on the bridge post of her. 😢
Police are not gonna file a missing person report so soon. I can see police not giving them address or home location incase a family member is looking to harm her. Most murders is many times a family member
Wow, the police over there the RMCP have very differant policing policys when it comes to missing people and crime..1 month before they release the young girls missing profile that is bad bad bad..
It seems like the RCMP are the living embodiment of the Law Of Inertia. They showed spectacular inaction & their lack of any real attempt to investigate undoubtedly led to more murders. Condolences to all the families.
Work to honour all women, women have gone missing for far to long, we need to stand together for the impact needed! Yes it can happen to you or someone you love! Yes it can be stopped if banned together we dedicate enough of our resources, time and energy.
I find it mind boggling, that all these young women are hitch hiking, I live in England and don't think I've seen a lone female hitch hiker, since the early 90s, I have two daughters, and have brought them up not to take, risks, it seems to me, many of these young women are leading very high Risk life styles, there seems to be a awful lot of domestic abuse, i do really think some of these communities need to start taking care of there young women, why are these young women still putting themselves at risk, when they know so many other women have disappeared, I'm sure the police deserve some criticism, but I think some very uncomfortable questions, need to be asked, why are so many of these women ending up working the streets, especially indigenous communities, what is going on in the indigenous communities, for these poor young women, to end up working the streets
There are indigenous women who are sick of the current narrative on this issue- that it’s all racism and bad cops. I’m not extreme in either direction on any issue. I’m a rationalist. Unfortunately most “advocates” or wokesters do not deal in reality. They also don’t acknowledge misogyny in their hierarchy of oppression and indigenous women are getting tired of it bc it’s not just bad wyt cops harming them but their own mxn. And not all victims are even indigenous. What they all are is female. Race & cops are not the root of the problem. Misogyny is. They solved Simpsons case. It was her BF of course. I think there are a variety of causes here but 99% of these mrdrs are by mxn in very difficult & isolated. terrain & circumstances. Ppl will not acknowledge that bc they’d rather rant about race than address male violence and deviancy. We don’t know what the police know bc they don’t share it until they get the guilty party. It doesn’t make them incompetent bc they can’t find a needle in a haystack or bc they don’t have enough evidence overnight. They may know who did it in every case but they will not say until they can do something.
I had a very scary experience in salmon arm.Shortly after my experience, a woman disappeared 😮 A guy in a pub said he was going Take me for toke of cannabis I thought He was going to murder me Became very very weird and I felt I had to say you can't murder me.I have children And I had to do no fear even though I was scared as hell.I finally got to ride back. That dude lived in salmon arm He took me deep into the forest roads where I had no clue where we we're
The guy never once said you're being ridiculous.I don't want to kill you. It was intense, and I just felt so lucky to get back to salmon arm. You had a white truck and clean-cut haircut.So I remember I seen him around salmon armand I would never get in truck again Shortly. After that ashley And I remember suspecting him.He was my number one's suspect
Some cops don't care, some cops hurt people for fun other cops are trying to do the right thing. If you deal with the worst parts of human behavior frequently you are going to become hardened. Also how many of these cases turn out to be a drug bender and not a murder.
Its pretty obvious that certain members of the community protected the murderer(s). Everywhere there are hard drugs and prostitution there are predators and bodies.
Living in a abusive relationship is not healthy at all emotionally and mentally not so much physical physical can heal some heal faster than others poor girl hope she is ok Ashley and the other girl parents panic not knowing what to do that's understandable I was lucky to get out alive of the most abusive relationship I have ever had I lost my kids I lost my mind and my family had the worst mental break down Eva that's why I love my single life I'm free from all that crap Neva again
I have bean seen another crime beat , and realize that Canadian police are not very competent, they don’t care , they are cold, distant, poor families 🥺🥺🥺
Is it just me or police woman coming up with an excuse for everything (releasing the surveillance video so late etc.) is just that? Empty excuses for bad police work?
ALL of these Crime Beat 'Docu-Stories' really allow the raw emotion to come through every one of the individuals interviewed. Very palpable.
So sad how he was looking for his daughter alone and no one was helping him 😢
I thought that exact same thing!..🤘
This a good show crime beat
It shawly is a very good series Awesome comment 👍
Sooo, if the third woman, Deanna, was said to have gone for a hike, but was possibly a danger to herself, how long I wonder, would it take a tracker dog to find her? I mean, if she’d robbed a bank, they’d have searched for her, no? 🤔
Look how fast they found those two indigenous brothers in Saskatchewan last week. Not saying they should let them run rampant, but it does show how quickly they can find someone dead or alive
Ashley was just above and beyond amazing we grew up in St Kitts to gather…. going to YMCA dances and just being around the same circle ….Ashelys dad was so right, her smile was so infectious and she just was so loving and fun!!!!!! Miss her dearly xoxox RIP Ashley
Aroha Mai much sympathy for the loss of your friend 😇😄😃😀😛🤩😁😜😊💖🥰😘
The more i watch those videos where the RCMP is involved the more i see how they fail... and leave the families hanging...sad really....
Nova Scotia is currently experiencing the “slip ups” and “oversights” of RCMP now, as Portapique and Pictou County area families are dealing with the special privileges being offered to senior officers who are speaking before the Inquiry Committee that is overseen by the RCMP…..Those involved in the mass shooting in April 18-19, 2020 involving 23 victims over 13 hours….. an absolute mess from the start…..
@@doreenchiasson2878 indeed, I was shocked about this shooting...broke my heart....
Because the rcmp is a joke & everyone knows it 🙄
@@doreenchiasson2878 if they're so incompetent why don't you do the job?
@@TheBasedCanadian how would joining an institution one already doesn't support be productive? You really think one Mountie could change things from within?
What are the RCMP even getting paid for?
You never know if RCMP are ones killing Indigenous.
To have excuses ready when they don't do enough or make mistakes.
Thank-you for your channel on Canada crime , cGod Bless Canada 🇨🇦
The incompetency of the RCMP in these cases is so angering!!!
I wish I could come to your work place and judge you. I don't even like cops but I get that it must be a very hard job
@@TheBasedCanadian I bet it is, this is why some of these things happen to innocent people and they, the RCMP don't help, you really need to WAKE UPPPPPPPP
@@TheBasedCanadian for someone claiming to not like cops you're certainly coming to their defence more than such a claim would imply...
@RoyaleObsidian join up, show them how its done. They need the help and your expertise with the law could help.
We need our own private investigators to look at these tragic stories. And investigators who actually care about finding the truth and justice. Our court system needs a complete overhaul. The judges are always aiding and abetting the worst criminals our country has ever seen. Kinda looks like they have something to hide.. Otherwise they would want answers too..
I remember, I thought the same thing the RCMP just don’t seem to care. Breaks my heart. I hope they find these women💔I used to live out at Silver Creek a massive area.
Such a grand name, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police but, sorry, as these crime shows show, they seem incompetent and uncaring. Sad and quite infuriating.
The RCMP are not a police institution but a political institution. They represent the wealthy, and government, not the people, certainly not lower income people...
Honestly
You're right, RCMP was created to apprehend indigenous children from their parents.
@@renedragmazzaroth8879 well, they did that, but they weren't created specifically for that purpose. No need to exaggerate, the evil speaks for itself.
Honestly, are the RCMP trying to not find the person.
I have never seen a case where the RCMP wasn't incompetent smh
I know right? They really needed sensitivity training in 70's - 90s. Racist organization should be removed
@@Specialkxxx Racist how?
@@laurastuart3814 if you know you know. My family was harassed for years. But all you have to do is google RCMP cases they screwed up. For example Rober Piston used the streets of BC to murder indigenous women FOR YEARS and they didn’t give two shits
@@laurastuart3814 highway of tears did show that the police didn't give a damn about the native women and only got involved when a white girl went missing. That was decades ago and nothing has changed since.
@@laurastuart3814because they don't care about indigenous women
What seems to be happening is taxpayers are paying for services that are NOT working for them, is there more needing to say here?????
This is only part of the problem. You have people who want change and don’t vote. If you/ we aren’t happy, we need to step up and be the change. It’s fine and dandy to have an opinion even if I believe you’re right, if people like you don’t get involved we’ll never see effective change.
sickening how much $$ is put to end peaceful protests BRUTALLY!
But TRUE emergency such as a serial killer seems to go unheard!
Yup, cops investigate the cases they want to and ignore and judge the victims they don't relate to.
Not being provided at all in too many cases
It's the same here in the UK
They need to lock up Curtis Sagmoen!
YuP
Was the property the police are searching the same property from the beginning that didn't want the search party trespassing on their land?
They might as well confess when they don't let the search party look for her!
"I hope this was good enough for you. You can't go to the press again."
rcmp prioritizing its tarnished image over lives every time. It's good to see in the comment section of every investigation they are involved with that people know what a joke of an organization that is. There is essentially no one that would assume they would take any of these cases seriously. I've never seen an organization more resistant to actually doing work.
I cannot fathom how the RMCP are not dismantled. How many crimes are documented where the rcmp have dropped the ball, incompetence isnt possible of that scale, this is clearly something else.
It's no secret RCMP don't or never once investigate missing indigenous why bother interviewing knotsees RCMP on missing indigenous, what a waste of time 😖
Don't you guys have your own police? Where are they. RCMP will probably pursue the leads they have if they have any leads.
Great coverage
I don't get why the RCMP wouldn't tell FAMILY where Caitlin's house was...?????? WTH?
I can see it cause most murders is often a family member. Ex husband, step dad or whoever and cops would be handing her to them on a silver platter
The family might have been in danger of they went to that location. Or the family might have hurt ppl at the location. possible reasons why RCMP didn't divulge that.
Why didn't they know.. very strange.
@@garylandriault5146well if the family had murdered her already or kidnapped her they would be handing them an empty house on a plate.
Canadian police is an absolute joke.
Hard to believe the RCMP isn't involved in most of these "Missing" cases. There are far too many in this part of Canada. I find it disturbing and unsettling to say the least. Something is definately going on.
It's like the cops just don't give a damn about anyone, ecept their own.... And even then.... What is the point?
Mrs simpson you are so right they are only robots!! Screw this risk essesment if someone is missing do your job and go find them for the love of God!!
Traci sounds like someone I could easily relate with. Other than the drugs, ...I feel a lot of connection.
Hiking alone can be dangerous.
Even just wildlife encounters, ...bears, cougars, ...
Especially in BC
Peanut butter too!...🤷🏻♀️
Foolishly so .
The RCMP have lost credibility. I'm sure there are a few who do take their job seriously, but you often see write ups in Canadian papers about RCMP incompetence, sexism and corruption.
This is a devastating episode. I’m so sorry to the many family and friends affected by this. I cannot imagine the pain of not knowing. I will say tho that the police are not the cause of this. We must be vigilant with our loved ones.
The RCMP's job is to find missing people and solve crimes not write things off
how the hell is this man STILL walking the streets!
come one Canadian justice system stop failing vulnerable/high risk women or ANY PERSON FOR THAT MATTER!
Such a beautiful woman
Amazing. 11 days after ... family makes a missing person report. Then another three weeks until the RCMP made a press release?
Wow. I feel terrible for the 4th girl.
I too was a runaway teen and nobody made a poster or looked for me either. May she rest in peace ❤
Love the way the police make excuses for everything now 4 WOMEN MISSING COMEON PULL FINGER OUT OF BUTTT
Curtis Sagmoen was just charged again with a gun related incident in Kamloops on April 18th 2024
I live in Australia and the authorities here also don’t care about missing or dead indigenous women.
They aren’t just indigenous women and girls. And it’s dishonest to pretend these cases are easy. The real issue is male deviancy and misogynist violence.
A SERiAL KILLER CONVICTED OF SECOND DEGREE MURDER ⁉️😳🙄
That's very surprising how bad the police work in Canada. Didn't expect it at all
Risk assessment?
It's good to see passionate parents.
Love Canada and all it people from Ireland 🇮🇪
people have known about curtis for a long time I posted him to my Facebook as danger like 6 years ago
Why? What made you suspicious…..just honestly asking out of curiosity. I listen to my gut so I understand the uneasy feelings some people can get when encountering someone or something..
They way they handle em cases (rip) .... it s almost like they know exactly what happened too em .... how far from coq is that ? Exactly
Just north of Coquitlam, about 200km or so.
@@Osckarre very very sad .....
The police aren't perfect but the world would be a scary place without them
@@TheBasedCanadian there here and world is scary no? For some they make it worst then others my point is there
Yeah they been on the depop program forever piggy's palace...
my step brother is native and with all he has told me and what i have experienced myself.. the RCMP are the worst!! They have not got the training that they need there for they dont care especially when there is a native man or woman in concerned i have seen this with my own eyes! I pray with all my heart all these woman and others are found.
Very strange how these husbands and boyfriends react to there spouses missing
I know right they couldn't care less
@@yennefer440that’s pretty callous……there are more significant others that would be broken at just the thought of this happening…
Makes me wonder if the RCMP had something to do with all these disappearances lol
No tracking dogs? Really?
scary how me and her are from the same reserve and the way I found out she was missing is when my family went to enderby bridge and went swimming under the bridge their was flyers on the bridge post of her. 😢
Wow, that's just down the road from me- scary stuff in a mad world!!!
BC got weird at some point
Part 2: ua-cam.com/video/94r9YwI7vlA/v-deo.html
Rcmp sure dig their heals in when comes to investigating our peoples murders and such. We need better policing.
FBI RCMP canadian version of the FBI ???
What’s happening? Good question
Police are not gonna file a missing person report so soon. I can see police not giving them address or home location incase a family member is looking to harm her. Most murders is many times a family member
Where is part 2!!!!!!!!!!
The RCMP not even giving the location of her house 🤔
Not good at all.
Anyone knows to who the instrumental music belongs @ minute 1:00? somehow I like it.
Wow, the police over there the RMCP have very differant policing policys when it comes to missing people and crime..1 month before they release the young girls missing profile that is bad bad bad..
They all have the most amazing beautiful eyes
Every lady up till 15:14 where I am is wearing coloured.contacts on multiple photos.x
Oc is always at the edge of these things
It seems like the RCMP are the living embodiment of the Law Of Inertia. They showed spectacular inaction & their lack of any real attempt to investigate undoubtedly led to more murders. Condolences to all the families.
My heart breaks for Mr Simpson, searching on his own, like nobody else gives a shit about Ashley
Work to honour all women, women have gone missing for far to long, we need to stand together for the impact needed! Yes it can happen to you or someone you love! Yes it can be stopped if banned together we dedicate enough of our resources, time and energy.
I find it mind boggling, that all these young women are hitch hiking, I live in England and don't think I've seen a lone female hitch hiker, since the early 90s, I have two daughters, and have brought them up not to take, risks, it seems to me, many of these young women are leading very high Risk life styles, there seems to be a awful lot of domestic abuse, i do really think some of these communities need to start taking care of there young women, why are these young women still putting themselves at risk, when they know so many other women have disappeared, I'm sure the police deserve some criticism, but I think some very uncomfortable questions, need to be asked, why are so many of these women ending up working the streets, especially indigenous communities, what is going on in the indigenous communities, for these poor young women, to end up working the streets
There are indigenous women who are sick of the current narrative on this issue- that it’s all racism and bad cops. I’m not extreme in either direction on any issue. I’m a rationalist. Unfortunately most “advocates” or wokesters do not deal in reality. They also don’t acknowledge misogyny in their hierarchy of oppression and indigenous women are getting tired of it bc it’s not just bad wyt cops harming them but their own mxn. And not all victims are even indigenous. What they all are is female. Race & cops are not the root of the problem. Misogyny is. They solved Simpsons case. It was her BF of course. I think there are a variety of causes here but 99% of these mrdrs are by mxn in very difficult & isolated. terrain & circumstances. Ppl will not acknowledge that bc they’d rather rant about race than address male violence and deviancy. We don’t know what the police know bc they don’t share it until they get the guilty party. It doesn’t make them incompetent bc they can’t find a needle in a haystack or bc they don’t have enough evidence overnight. They may know who did it in every case but they will not say until they can do something.
what do we have another Picton in the Shushwap??
They should have questioned those two little kids at the time.
HOW MANY OF THOSE RCMP HATE NATIVE PEOPLE I WONDER ?
Believe, If you are on the street, you need all the help you can get.
I had a very scary experience in salmon arm.Shortly after my experience, a woman disappeared 😮
A guy in a pub said he was going Take me for toke of cannabis
I thought He was going to murder me Became very very weird and I felt I had to say you can't murder me.I have children And I had to do no fear even though I was scared as hell.I finally got to ride back. That dude lived in salmon arm
He took me deep into the forest roads where I had no clue where we we're
The guy never once said you're being ridiculous.I don't want to kill you. It was intense, and I just felt so lucky to get back to salmon arm. You had a white truck and clean-cut haircut.So I remember I seen him around salmon armand I would never get in truck again
Shortly.
After that ashley And I remember suspecting him.He was my number one's suspect
What kind of man makes a woman so scared?S beg not to be murdered and not say hey you're safe except for a very scary man
Imagine that
Sad alright😢😢
Why don't they put à bunch of cameras??
RCMP do not care.
Some cops don't care, some cops hurt people for fun other cops are trying to do the right thing. If you deal with the worst parts of human behavior frequently you are going to become hardened. Also how many of these cases turn out to be a drug bender and not a murder.
Maybe they are keeping quiet for the police...HwyTears.???
Why are some of them being interviewed outside, clearly in the cold given the heavy coats, tuques and scarves?
The posters
Where tf is part 2
It should be on soon, they did say they would add part two,
Canadianpolice are even worse than here.Thats bad.
No questions allowed
The only wrong decision is going to Kelowna.
22:44...And the banjos begin, ...:/
No one takes DV seriously it seems.
Privacy concerns
Its pretty obvious that certain members of the community protected the murderer(s). Everywhere there are hard drugs and prostitution there are predators and bodies.
So every reserve ever
since there was three some thing was up those police should been all fired
Living in a abusive relationship is not healthy at all emotionally and mentally not so much physical physical can heal some heal faster than others poor girl hope she is ok Ashley and the other girl parents panic not knowing what to do that's understandable I was lucky to get out alive of the most abusive relationship I have ever had I lost my kids I lost my mind and my family had the worst mental break down Eva that's why I love my single life I'm free from all that crap Neva again
Sounds familiar
It’s Curtis sagmoane
Weird response
No Conclusion wtfk
I have bean seen another crime beat , and realize that Canadian police are not very competent, they don’t care , they are cold, distant, poor families 🥺🥺🥺
I a cops family member goes missing they bring out all the stops its so wrong!
It's their partners
It is a script
Is it just me or police woman coming up with an excuse for everything (releasing the surveillance video so late etc.) is just that? Empty excuses for bad police work?
Bad scripts
It’s a trap
Nobody is calling in shyte
Near the end of this episode and it definitely seems like domestic violence with each one but maybe one. Let’s see
And drugs and alcohol
Risky lifestyles
Lazy police work
Our women and children are under attach and there seems to be no urgency to save or find them !!!
Seriously buddy, *attack
Lazy police work
This music is annoying