I wish i could afford a T-Rex Binson Echorec and/or an Echo Fix tape echo. One day i will get the pleasure of playing through an analog beauty like them. Love how T-Rex brought the Echorec back from the dead.
What I love most about these guys is their overwhelming, uncontrollable need to simply touch the knobs. So many times you see fingers in the closeup camera just caressing, but not moving, the knobs. It cracks me up.
Great demos. The echorec emulation sounds very faithful there. It’s interesting how influential the original Binson unit was in the history of electronic music too. I understand Delia Derbyshire used an Echorec at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop in the 60s, and there are notes in her archive which show she also used it at what was billed as the first-ever concert of electronic music at the Watermill theatre in 1966.
I have the Boonar and a DD500. The echorec emulation in the boss is actually very good, but the preamp/buffer in the Boonar is great. I took it out of my chain to demo a new pedal and couldn’t believe how much worse everything sounded. Really ties the room together.
Have you checked the input and output impedance on the Boonar? You should be able to get a buffer, that can do what it is, as far as acting to retain more of your tone’s clarity, when not using the Boonar.
@@CorbCorbin you can change how the bypass works on the Boonar so that when the delay isn’t engaged you still get the benefit of the buffer, I meant when I had literally removed the pedal from the board
I bought an original T7E Binson earlier this year. Howard 'the legend' at MAC in Leeds who services David Gilmour, Pete Townsend etc Binson's did the works on it. Totally amazing. I've used a Catlinbread Echorec on my board for years now which has been great...BUT its not the same, the original is magical. The problem is...hours go lost in a psychedelic trip when its on
Thank you Dan & Mick ! Excellent details in here. I have the Strymon Volante and love it. You two deliver such great content every week. With Gratitude - John
It’s brilliant right up until you try it (or any other 200 series pedal) with MIDI clock. Then you realise Roland have massively screwed up (as effectively admitted to me by Roland U.K. support).
@@Quimmoo yeah it’s so disappointing. I’m thinking of selling my DD-200 and MD-200 because of it. I could replace the DD with an Alexander Rewind but not sure what I could replace the MD with in the same compact format. I have the Alexander Space Force and it’s brilliant (and handles clock signals in a sane way) but they don’t do a multi-mod.
I'm completely not in the market for the T-Rexorec but I've been waiting impatiently for this episode and it doesn't disappoint: a real TPS deep-dive that will teach us all a lot about drum delays.
I have to say I feel like Volante is still king. And I'm trying to be unbiased best I can, since I own it. I'm always on the lookout for tape, drum and their emulators. And Volante still feels like the most complete package. Not only it's incredibly feature rich, sounds incredible, it just feels like a love letter to that particular sound.
As much as I love preamp color (you might get from an Echorec) I thought the cleanliness of the Volante really shined here. And nothing else gives you the same panning control and stereo possibilities. (Still liked the T-Rex as well.)
Live and in the studio I personally think you really want something with more color than the volante provides. The vibe of something like the T. rex makes the volante sound sterile
Ever since you had the Boonar on your show for the first time, it's on my pedal board and is the only pedal I've never swapped out. It is my always on pedal - also thanks to its pre amp sound and how it gels with the rest of my chain.
Before I found TPS I would never have properly appreciated, and certainly not understood the differences between different delay pedals and styles. Thank you D&M for the wealth of information you share with us all. Picked up a Catalinbread Echorec on eBay this week after this episode and absolutely loving it 😁
The Boonar repeats can be darkened by one of the rear mounted trim ports, also there is an internal DIP switch for impedance (47K original or 1M modern) and it's factory set to the 1M for a bit more sparkle and volume. The preamp trimmer also makes a fair difference to the tone of the Boonar
I bought one of the first ones. Good to know someone who can really play gives it the thumbs up. It affirms the 2k price was worth it. This was years of engineering and the build is meticulous. It’s on us to help support these mammoth projects lest they never get undertaken!
The Khruangbin guitarist uses the Strymon El Capistan with an expression pedal to get those sounds. You can find a video of him explaining it all on the Premier Guitar rig rundown UA-cam channel. Thanks for the video guys!!!
I have the DD-200 and really like it. Unfortunately, it's Drum mode isn't quite the same as some of these other specific drum-style sounds. The Boonar impresses me every time it's on the show! Thanks for the tones and comparisons.
I just got to play this echo at the Brooklyn pedal show. Amazing and relatively affordable for the tech. T. rex never disappoints imho. It’s the subtlety and detail of the company’s offerings that sets them apart from the pack.
Catalinbred has been a great tool for making a front end vintage-y slapback verb as well as for making a stacking delay with my now old school tc-nova delays at the end of the chain/in the loop. The internal pot is useful for giving a nice pre-amp ‘crispiness’ and can be dialed up to deliver a very musical fuzz. That tone control is the cats pajamas with the sweep cutting the lows for a great slapback that doesn’t add mud, or for a warm ambiance when turned left. It’s great to see these pedals altogether here-thanks gentlemen!
Damn that TRex is fucking nice. Sounds and looks amazing. The Boonar however seems to be able to really GRAB that sound like no other to my ears. Like those 2 weensy knobs on the sides for example.... one is the Preamp input gain so you can really dirty it up if you need... but then the magical secret yummy JUICE on the other side... The aging of the drum. The knob... the little knob... changes the "age" of the drum. And if you run it with the dipswitches in the vintage mode you could probably get that level boost.. but with a little more control... id have to double check that bit.. . but I like that you can set it so there isn't. The Boonar... To me... is the best Echorec pedal. I would have to be in the same room to compare it to the TRex.
Been waiting for you gentlemen to get your paws on this thing. The show you did with the PE603T was just epic. Hard to believe that was 6 years ago. As I commented on the videos T-Rex did of the launch of their Binson it is gratifying to know that in this century we can still make stuff as good as back in the 20th. The boonar, volante et al are good but they lack the magic of the real magnetics. Such a special sound. Practicality be damned.
Stunning show Leg Ends, a pedal board to make a bank manager cry or a loan shark smile & another half sing the classic country song D.I.V.O.R.C.E !!!! , THANKS AGAIN FOR A FABULOUS FUN FRIDAY. PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.
I owned a Volante and found I liked the tape emulation a bit better. The boss pedal emulation was solid in this video, especially since it will do so much more on top of that drum sound.
Love watching you both work with gear you find inspiring, and drum delays (and digital facsimiles) definitely take you to that place. That's what it's all about!
Due to my naivety I didn’t realise just who Mick is. I now realise I was reading lots of stuff written by his good hand for decades. Being of a similar vintage I feel equally stupid and blessed to have now found TPS. Love the channel… I lose hours watching you guys. Thanks you for all your efforts. Ps. Bought 2 t-shirts and they’re amazing. Can see me filling my wardrobe with them!
There is an internal trimmer in the Echorec that allows to set the level boost. There's also a solder pad that would allow to add an optional toggle switch to activate kill dry!
Ha!@@ThatPedalShow I got a new step drill bit, especially for the Occasion. Wasn't too scary in the end 😁 there's a perfect place on the back for the switch. Why wasn't it there in the first place?? The Replicator has one.
Kudos to T-Rex for a wonderful piece of audio engineering and manufacturing. Thanks for another great episode! I just placed an order for my annual batch of FXMAS T-Shirts. Love this years designs! Thanks again.
Two delay shows in as many weeks - Christmas isn't for another month and change though 😮 Thanks gentlemen, as usual inspiring stuff that makes me want to go tinker!
This video inspired me to create an echorec sim in my boss gt1000. I used an analog shimmer delay with 2 rates and paired that with the boss rotary to get a rotation sound. Still tinkering but it sounds great!
@@ThatPedalShow hey mick! yea thats very true. Didnt think about that aspect of it. All i considered was the size, but i guess its not any bigger than having all the individual effects. Are u stuck with the order of the effects built in, or does it have maybe i/o for each circuit?
Tape Delay junkies. Here we are. I am obsessed with tape and oil can delays. The finger to tape reel flanging effect is also in that arena. Flanging on command pedals would be a fun comparison. Love this kind of content!
Great video guys!! I was going to buy a timeline at the weekend but after your video thought I’d try the Volante. Oh my word what a sound, it’s now my favourite ever pedal
Thanks for this video fellas, I asked you to do this a while back. Here’s an honest opinion, and just for information I listened to this through a set of studio monitors so I would get the best sound. Though I believe the T-Rex Binson has some magic to it, the Boonar sounds just as good to me. And at 1/10 of the cost it is a no-brainer, at least for myself.
I remember most fondly those episodes in which Dan has been taken away with the sound of an atmospheric delay. This has been no exception, thanks team. Perhaps a little Xmas special could be thrown together of the best bits of an hour of delay-based noodling? Dan, those amps, a couple of delays and pick the bones out of 60 mins worth? Hope springs eternal!
First of all... best ending jam to any TPS show ever! Hahaha, tears in the eyes laughter! And I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new Echorec. My wife is going to kill me because I'm going to buy one (and I have a Volante!). Great video guys!
Gentlemen! Just returned from Miami Beach to hear this brilliant episode! (Dan, the food was sensational!) I just went back and watched Tom Bukovac, John McBride, Ebo go through a bunch of vintage delays over at Inside Blackbird. One was a vintage Binson. Without other prompting, John raised the point about noise. He switched the Binson channel off and on a few times to demonstrate (and even seemingly reached to the console subconsciously and turned it off while they were talking). John's enthusiastic comment about the Binson and noise was that it was worth it. They agreed that in the mix, it isn't what you notice. Now, naturally, and to Mick's point, a studio environment is different to live gigs. There are so many things you can do during mixing to control that noise. Again, it was an original Binson from Milan, with masking tape labels in English over the original Italian controls labels. Cheers, guys.
@@MarinerEarendil you're most welcome. I was hoping they'd either compare or comment on the new one but they didn't. It was a discussion only of the vintage gear in the studio. (sorry for my delay; I've been traveling a bit.)
Great video guys! Very informative and eye opening, I learned so much in this episode. It was quite entertaining to see Dan have a pedal dedicated to the "Pink Floyd" sound and use rather controlled constraint in most cases no to just rip off some Gilmour licks without Mick running him through because of the copyright police getting them. He snuck a few in there, but had opportunity for so many more. Well Done all the way around TPS! 🥰🥰
Wow that is an incredible unit. Hats off to T-Rex! I’ve had a Boonar and a Catalinbread but I currently have the Volante for the stereo goodness on my board. It is the only Strymon pedal where I wish it didn’t have as much of the Strymon sound. Would love it to be a little more raw at times, but for a my midi board, it does everything I need.
Not cold. It’s hard to put into words but Strymon pedals have a polished sound to them. People love it or hate it. I generally like it but I think a spinning disc delay should be a little less polished.
Great video gents but I must note that not using the Dyna-ssoR on the Pink Flow is almost criminal 😊 I just love that compressor so much, it really does help me get David G’ish clean tones and makes playing a breeze. You both rock, please keep doing what you do!
I LOVE echorec pedals and have tried almost all including Boonar, Catalinbread E-Rec, Volante etc. My favorites are the Gurus Echosex2T7E and the Foxgear Echosex Baby and T7EBaby. The Gurus T7E is my overall fave and the Foxgear T7E has the coolest band-passed filtering as an alternative. The swell on each is hypnotic. The Gurus and Foxgear can get much warmer and darker than the others. The others are terrific but Gurus & Foxgear sound less digital and sparkly and pristine and Gurus gives the warm tone you’d expect from a tube preamp and the foxgear sounds more like an analog delay, maybe a carbon copy. I’ve watched every Binson Echorec TPS and have enjoyed them and learned lots from each episode. Great content!
@@ThatPedalShow Bummer Mick! Hope mine is not on borrowed time! I remember you liked the Foxgear Echosex Baby and mentioned having some issues with it. I had some problems with signal cutting out on that one too. And yes would love to try Cicognani and this T-Rex unit in the future. And still have trying a real tape delay to look forward to for my tone questing. Have fun with the new toys!
Awesome guys, loved this! Heads up the Echosex (Foxgear) also has a 4 head, stereo pedal . I’ve got it and it too is killer! It has a separate switchable swell feature for more of a verb sound, or the standard sound…
The T-rex sounds exquisite definitely want to hear the balanced I/O. Also - fingers crossed that Strymon release a plugin of the volante. While I sold the pedal because I’ve moved to plugins for all time based effects - I do miss the tone of the strymon. But the tone of the T-rex is next level. Frankly, I don’t see a need for a vintage unit. This, an echo fix and a FT TTE would be three ace pieces for a studio.
When you guys have done real tape vs, I've always felt the magic of the real one being bounds above the modern digital recreations even from the 3000 yard view of youtube viewer. I'm not really feeling that magic difference here. The Boonar especially was holding it's own on the T-Rex, so much so I think I preferred the digital one. Well done DSP drum delay makers.
Great episode guys. I would love to own the T-Rex. I have their latest Replicator Tape Delay and just adore it. You just had to include the Seagull didn't you? So glad you did.
I am a Catalinbread user. I think there are better sounding options, but its size is the main factor for my choice. My board fits 10 pedals tightly, and I also need a slap back delay too on the board.
I have the Catalinbread on the same board as the Pink Flow. I think you're right about better sounding units but I have it on a setting that works really well with the Pink Flow and a few other pedals. It's a 'special effect' designed to give me a very rhythmic delay for a couple of songs. Much as I'd love something like the Boonar or even the T-Rex I can't justify the expense given what I need from an Echorec type of pedal. I also make sure to run it at 18v just for the extra clarity it seems to give.
I have the Echorec as well and I like it quite a lot. It's a very good pedal for the money. The only other delay that I use is the Halo, which is also very good. 😎
Another fun show! I’m a delay junkie because of you two! The T-Rex sounded great but it’s a bit out of my price range. All the others had their good points. I would love to try any of them. Thanks.
Would you redo this with the Cicognani Engineering Le Prism and the other newer models like the Pompeii T1 and pe603. The Echosex is old and outdated. Maybe add in the Meris LVX? Please. :-)
Cool this episode coming out just after I got back from visiting my old bandmates, during which the drummer and bassist had been trying to jam Interstellar Overdrive. We went on a few 20+ minute excursions to another realm, over the three weeks I was there. 😆 Always loved the Echorec, but it really does get me playing a certain way, because of how it works, unless I just use it as a more reverb sounding effect, as Gilmour did on Echoes.
Such a good episode thanks guys!!! Been wanting to hear how well it plays together with the volante :) and the seagull noises!! Ah they stole my heart with laughter
Totally amazing video! You just save my day!😂😂😂😂…and the Seagull end part it looks more than a suffered, longer fart than a Seagull claim!😂😂😂 I love ya!❤
Love delay so much of all kinds great video. "If you are taking one on your board tomorrow, which one?" For sure the T-Rex so I could sell it on Reverb for $2k. For sure if money is no object, but I think the DD200 for the money is amazing. Under 200 bones used for sure. Could have watched another hour of this. Thanks so much guys. Cheers!
I still have that feeling, that those great units like Volante or Boonar are doing great delays, but something different then actual Drum echo. There is something, that is yet to be captured. like the Volante has awesome features, but the base sound is still miles behind what Binson is doing.
The Volante is best thought of as a digital delay with a great interface IMO. It doesn't have the colored preamp of a Catalinbread Belle Epoch or Boonar (or real Echoplex/Binson) and doesn't particularly sound like any tape delay I've used (never had a real drum delay in hand).
Of all the amazing stuff that I aspire to or have acquired, the Echorec is one piece of which I am truly unworthy. Ironically it was Hank Marvin who inspired mini-me to be a guitar player, but it is fairly apparent that music is not my strong suit. T Rex are pretty heroic for giving these to the World and they actually make the Echo that I aspire to- next summer I believe that I will score a pair of Replicators to complete the Analog Echo section of the rig, God willing and the creek don't rise. 🎸
Never picked it up before when you've mentioned it, and I can't get my ears around actually what it is, but the "Strymon sound" is like its gone through a different chain. I love T-rex pedals, what a job they've done on this, very impressive. Also, nice that the Echosex got a mention, it does all that I need when it comes to magnetic drum delay, and does a nice job as a doubler when obvious delay isn't required.
XLR on the T-Rex is quieter too. There's also a sneaky Kill-Dry on the Circuit board. I've already modded mine with a switch, which was simple, but scary to do. Makes the pedal much better as outboard Delay
Nice to see the new TRex Echirec but I think it should be compared with the classic ones Similar prices and are supposed to be THE Echorecs, so better than any emulation pedal Costing 2k, its target customer is probably considering getting a classic echorec already Volante costs 1/5, has a smaller footprint, is stereo, offers a dozen of extra functionalities I'd recomend either VOL or the Boonar for most people that want an echorec soundalike The others are great too but miss the iconic individual repeat head activation experience Other echo pedals can emulate that sound, that Boss is a great example. Multi-purposes Keep it up! These videos are pure gold and guys are all amazing (including the public) 🤟
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I haven’t even watched yet but I already know this episode is going to cost me a lot of money…
Same FFS. I really should just unsubscribe at this point
😂😂😂😂
Which one ended up in your cart?
😂😂😂😂😂
Yup! 😢
I certainly hope there's a "Noel's knobs" t-shirt coming. Even if it just says "I wonder what the settings are?!"
I wish i could afford a T-Rex Binson Echorec and/or an Echo Fix tape echo. One day i will get the pleasure of playing through an analog beauty like them. Love how T-Rex brought the Echorec back from the dead.
Me too
Nothing better than waking up to a That Pedal Show episode all about amazing delays. I can’t get enough of it. The coffee is ready.
What I love most about these guys is their overwhelming, uncontrollable need to simply touch the knobs. So many times you see fingers in the closeup camera just caressing, but not moving, the knobs. It cracks me up.
Dd-200 is all I need on my board. It covers so much ground, simple to use and sounds ace.
Yep. I have the DD-500 = an entire toolbox of Delay to sculpt & tweak. I found my perfect delay-pedal.
but you will NEED to get the RV 200 to compliment the DD 200 ;)
Dan’s love for the music and for guitar is infectious. It inspires me to show more joy when I’m playing. 😊
Ah, thanks mate 🤓🙏
Great demos. The echorec emulation sounds very faithful there. It’s interesting how influential the original Binson unit was in the history of electronic music too. I understand Delia Derbyshire used an Echorec at the BBC Radiophonic Workshop in the 60s, and there are notes in her archive which show she also used it at what was billed as the first-ever concert of electronic music at the Watermill theatre in 1966.
I was able to play the Binson at NAMM for about one minute and eight seconds. Best purchase I’ve made in years.
I have the Boonar and a DD500. The echorec emulation in the boss is actually very good, but the preamp/buffer in the Boonar is great. I took it out of my chain to demo a new pedal and couldn’t believe how much worse everything sounded. Really ties the room together.
Got to agree my Boonar just has “something” which gives my tone a real character I can’t do without
Boonar should make a a White Russian edition.
Have you checked the input and output impedance on the Boonar?
You should be able to get a buffer, that can do what it is, as far as acting to retain more of your tone’s clarity, when not using the Boonar.
Fuckin A man
@@CorbCorbin you can change how the bypass works on the Boonar so that when the delay isn’t engaged you still get the benefit of the buffer, I meant when I had literally removed the pedal from the board
I bought an original T7E Binson earlier this year. Howard 'the legend' at MAC in Leeds who services David Gilmour, Pete Townsend etc Binson's did the works on it. Totally amazing. I've used a Catlinbread Echorec on my board for years now which has been great...BUT its not the same, the original is magical. The problem is...hours go lost in a psychedelic trip when its on
Thank you Dan & Mick ! Excellent details in here. I have the Strymon Volante and love it. You two deliver such great content every week. With Gratitude - John
Glad to see the DD-200 on the board. I think it's a really solid option, and it's definitely different from a tape delay emulation.
It’s brilliant right up until you try it (or any other 200 series pedal) with MIDI clock. Then you realise Roland have massively screwed up (as effectively admitted to me by Roland U.K. support).
@@nstrug Roland and MIDI clock really have some tough relationships lmao.
@@Quimmoo yeah it’s so disappointing. I’m thinking of selling my DD-200 and MD-200 because of it. I could replace the DD with an Alexander Rewind but not sure what I could replace the MD with in the same compact format. I have the Alexander Space Force and it’s brilliant (and handles clock signals in a sane way) but they don’t do a multi-mod.
I'm completely not in the market for the T-Rexorec but I've been waiting impatiently for this episode and it doesn't disappoint: a real TPS deep-dive that will teach us all a lot about drum delays.
I have to say I feel like Volante is still king. And I'm trying to be unbiased best I can, since I own it. I'm always on the lookout for tape, drum and their emulators. And Volante still feels like the most complete package. Not only it's incredibly feature rich, sounds incredible, it just feels like a love letter to that particular sound.
my exact thoughts 👍
As much as I love preamp color (you might get from an Echorec) I thought the cleanliness of the Volante really shined here. And nothing else gives you the same panning control and stereo possibilities. (Still liked the T-Rex as well.)
Yeah I feel in this video it actually sounded better than the T-Rex.
Look into the Cicognani "Le Prism" if you get a chance. I never thought I'd ditch the volante but I sold it the day I tried this "Le Prism" device.
Live and in the studio I personally think you really want something with more color than the volante provides. The vibe of something like the T. rex makes the volante sound sterile
Ever since you had the Boonar on your show for the first time, it's on my pedal board and is the only pedal I've never swapped out. It is my always on pedal - also thanks to its pre amp sound and how it gels with the rest of my chain.
Before I found TPS I would never have properly appreciated, and certainly not understood the differences between different delay pedals and styles. Thank you D&M for the wealth of information you share with us all. Picked up a Catalinbread Echorec on eBay this week after this episode and absolutely loving it 😁
You’re so welcome Chris 🤓🙏
22:00 breadorec? Haha
The tones on this episode are just unbelievable!
The Dawner Prince Boonar is my desert island pedal
The Boonar repeats can be darkened by one of the rear mounted trim ports, also there is an internal DIP switch for impedance (47K original or 1M modern) and it's factory set to the 1M for a bit more sparkle and volume.
The preamp trimmer also makes a fair difference to the tone of the Boonar
My first thought was that it was too bright. This is good news
Yep yep!! Boonar for the win!!!!
I bought one of the first ones. Good to know someone who can really play gives it the thumbs up. It affirms the 2k price was worth it. This was years of engineering and the build is meticulous. It’s on us to help support these mammoth projects lest they never get undertaken!
2,000 what? Pounds, or Freedom Bucks?
Busting out the good headphones for this one!!!
Once again strymon never fails to impress. I picked up the brig recently and it's epic!
Dan's riffs like 35:15 or so are so amping me up. Awesome
The Khruangbin guitarist uses the Strymon El Capistan with an expression pedal to get those sounds. You can find a video of him explaining it all on the Premier Guitar rig rundown UA-cam channel. Thanks for the video guys!!!
If you posted this same video every Friday, I would watch every time.
I have the DD-200 and really like it. Unfortunately, it's Drum mode isn't quite the same as some of these other specific drum-style sounds. The Boonar impresses me every time it's on the show! Thanks for the tones and comparisons.
I just got to play this echo at the Brooklyn pedal show. Amazing and relatively affordable for the tech. T. rex never disappoints imho. It’s the subtlety and detail of the company’s offerings that sets them apart from the pack.
Catalinbred has been a great tool for making a front end vintage-y slapback verb as well as for making a stacking delay with my now old school tc-nova delays at the end of the chain/in the loop. The internal pot is useful for giving a nice pre-amp ‘crispiness’ and can be dialed up to deliver a very musical fuzz. That tone control is the cats pajamas with the sweep cutting the lows for a great slapback that doesn’t add mud, or for a warm ambiance when turned left. It’s great to see these pedals altogether here-thanks gentlemen!
Damn that TRex is fucking nice. Sounds and looks amazing. The Boonar however seems to be able to really GRAB that sound like no other to my ears. Like those 2 weensy knobs on the sides for example.... one is the Preamp input gain so you can really dirty it up if you need... but then the magical secret yummy JUICE on the other side... The aging of the drum. The knob... the little knob... changes the "age" of the drum.
And if you run it with the dipswitches in the vintage mode you could probably get that level boost.. but with a little more control... id have to double check that bit.. . but I like that you can set it so there isn't. The Boonar... To me... is the best Echorec pedal. I would have to be in the same room to compare it to the TRex.
Been waiting for you gentlemen to get your paws on this thing. The show you did with the PE603T was just epic. Hard to believe that was 6 years ago. As I commented on the videos T-Rex did of the launch of their Binson it is gratifying to know that in this century we can still make stuff as good as back in the 20th. The boonar, volante et al are good but they lack the magic of the real magnetics. Such a special sound. Practicality be damned.
I was tabbed out of UA-cam when you engaged Seagull..... I was delighted to find Dan and Mick laughing as hard as I was when I tabbed back in
Stunning show Leg Ends, a pedal board to make a bank manager cry or a loan shark smile & another half sing the classic country song D.I.V.O.R.C.E !!!! , THANKS AGAIN FOR A FABULOUS FUN FRIDAY. PEACE AND LOVE TO EVERYONE ❤❤.
Great episode as always! For me the Volante is unrivalled. I can’t see T Rex selling many of these units.
I owned a Volante and found I liked the tape emulation a bit better. The boss pedal emulation was solid in this video, especially since it will do so much more on top of that drum sound.
Love watching you both work with gear you find inspiring, and drum delays (and digital facsimiles) definitely take you to that place. That's what it's all about!
Due to my naivety I didn’t realise just who Mick is. I now realise I was reading lots of stuff written by his good hand for decades. Being of a similar vintage I feel equally stupid and blessed to have now found TPS. Love the channel… I lose hours watching you guys. Thanks you for all your efforts. Ps. Bought 2 t-shirts and they’re amazing. Can see me filling my wardrobe with them!
Thank you Simon. I did indeed used to be Mick Taylor. Hahaha! Thank you kindly for buying stuff - it keeps us in the game!
Even if you get dinged by YT...the RLH riff in the intro was 100% WORTH it.
Awesome & thanks for the Boonar phasing problem explanation also!
Set my TC Electronic Flashback II delay to the Echorec patch, and can confirm: it just makes you want to play more.
There is an internal trimmer in the Echorec that allows to set the level boost. There's also a solder pad that would allow to add an optional toggle switch to activate kill dry!
Aha! Doesn't mention the trimmer in the manual, natch. Totally doing the kill-dry mod. Deep breath.......
Ha!@@ThatPedalShow I got a new step drill bit, especially for the Occasion. Wasn't too scary in the end 😁 there's a perfect place on the back for the switch. Why wasn't it there in the first place?? The Replicator has one.
Shout out to Khruangbin, I absolutely adore that band!
Two delay shows in a row makes me happy
Kudos to T-Rex for a wonderful piece of audio engineering and manufacturing. Thanks for another great episode! I just placed an order for my annual batch of FXMAS T-Shirts. Love this years designs! Thanks again.
Two delay shows in as many weeks - Christmas isn't for another month and change though 😮
Thanks gentlemen, as usual inspiring stuff that makes me want to go tinker!
A Perfect Storm episode! Two-Rock, Matchless anf Echorec. Still learning all the fine bits of my CB.
This video inspired me to create an echorec sim in my boss gt1000. I used an analog shimmer delay with 2 rates and paired that with the boss rotary to get a rotation sound. Still tinkering but it sounds great!
I absolutely LOVE how Jam Pedals makes those custom multi effect pedals. Very impractical for a pedalboard, but just awesome
I’m not sure it is impractical. Mick here. Have it made with everything you want…. It is your entire board with one power cord and no patch leads!
@@ThatPedalShow hey mick! yea thats very true. Didnt think about that aspect of it. All i considered was the size, but i guess its not any bigger than having all the individual effects. Are u stuck with the order of the effects built in, or does it have maybe i/o for each circuit?
@@ThatPedalShow i did a little more research and discovered u can make them with individual i/o. So cool!!!
I've really enjoyed my Catalinbread Echorec. It sounds really good and it was relatively affordable too.
I have one. It has definite mojo.
Tape Delay junkies. Here we are. I am obsessed with tape and oil can delays. The finger to tape reel flanging effect is also in that arena. Flanging on command pedals would be a fun comparison. Love this kind of content!
At this point I’m here for Noel’s knobs 😅
Great video guys!! I was going to buy a timeline at the weekend but after your video thought I’d try the Volante. Oh my word what a sound, it’s now my favourite ever pedal
Absolutely love the addition of Noel to the shows. 😂
Thanks for this video fellas, I asked you to do this a while back. Here’s an honest opinion, and just for information I listened to this through a set of studio monitors so I would get the best sound. Though I believe the T-Rex Binson has some magic to it, the Boonar sounds just as good to me. And at 1/10 of the cost it is a no-brainer, at least for myself.
Beautiful playing Dan!
Ah, cheers mate 🤓🙏
I remember most fondly those episodes in which Dan has been taken away with the sound of an atmospheric delay. This has been no exception, thanks team.
Perhaps a little Xmas special could be thrown together of the best bits of an hour of delay-based noodling? Dan, those amps, a couple of delays and pick the bones out of 60 mins worth?
Hope springs eternal!
Truss rod cover on the casino probably makes it sound even better. That jam pedal is epic! Another great show guys!
Absolutely amazing, I knew when T-Rex announced the new Echorec that you guys would make a fantastic video about it.
16:15 this guitar work Dan, I have to say is absolutely beautiful
First of all... best ending jam to any TPS show ever! Hahaha, tears in the eyes laughter!
And I LOVE LOVE LOVE the new Echorec. My wife is going to kill me because I'm going to buy one (and I have a Volante!). Great video guys!
Nice to see/hear Dan play the red tele again! That's a great sounding tele
Gentlemen! Just returned from Miami Beach to hear this brilliant episode! (Dan, the food was sensational!) I just went back and watched Tom Bukovac, John McBride, Ebo go through a bunch of vintage delays over at Inside Blackbird. One was a vintage Binson. Without other prompting, John raised the point about noise. He switched the Binson channel off and on a few times to demonstrate (and even seemingly reached to the console subconsciously and turned it off while they were talking). John's enthusiastic comment about the Binson and noise was that it was worth it. They agreed that in the mix, it isn't what you notice. Now, naturally, and to Mick's point, a studio environment is different to live gigs. There are so many things you can do during mixing to control that noise. Again, it was an original Binson from Milan, with masking tape labels in English over the original Italian controls labels. Cheers, guys.
do you have a link about that video with tom,john and ebo? thanks
It’s a subscription thing at Inside Blackbird. I don’t think it’s available on UA-cam presently
@@gbarge4 thanks anyways :)
@@MarinerEarendil you're most welcome. I was hoping they'd either compare or comment on the new one but they didn't. It was a discussion only of the vintage gear in the studio. (sorry for my delay; I've been traveling a bit.)
Great video guys! Very informative and eye opening, I learned so much in this episode. It was quite entertaining to see Dan have a pedal dedicated to the "Pink Floyd" sound and use rather controlled constraint in most cases no to just rip off some Gilmour licks without Mick running him through because of the copyright police getting them. He snuck a few in there, but had opportunity for so many more. Well Done all the way around TPS! 🥰🥰
Wow that is an incredible unit. Hats off to T-Rex! I’ve had a Boonar and a Catalinbread but I currently have the Volante for the stereo goodness on my board. It is the only Strymon pedal where I wish it didn’t have as much of the Strymon sound. Would love it to be a little more raw at times, but for a my midi board, it does everything I need.
What does the "Strymon Sound" mean? Cold and sterile?
Not cold. It’s hard to put into words but Strymon pedals have a polished sound to them. People love it or hate it. I generally like it but I think a spinning disc delay should be a little less polished.
Mick's seagull sounds like it's actually seasick and about to hurl! lol
Dan is one to aspire to when it comes to playing delays impeccable playing
Please do an update when the boonar tube deluxe is released….great episode!
Great video gents but I must note that not using the Dyna-ssoR on the Pink Flow is almost criminal 😊
I just love that compressor so much, it really does help me get David G’ish clean tones and makes playing a breeze.
You both rock, please keep doing what you do!
Just going to comment on how amazing the Casino looks with black pickup covers - plus it sounds awesome too! Great episode guys!
Thanks Jamie! These are Lollars and they’ve totally transformed the guitar. It’ll sit alongside any of our more; ahem, upmarket axes. Happy!
I LOVE echorec pedals and have tried almost all including Boonar, Catalinbread E-Rec, Volante etc. My favorites are the Gurus Echosex2T7E and the Foxgear Echosex Baby and T7EBaby.
The Gurus T7E is my overall fave and the Foxgear T7E has the coolest band-passed filtering as an alternative. The swell on each is hypnotic. The Gurus and Foxgear can get much warmer and darker than the others. The others are terrific but Gurus & Foxgear sound less digital and sparkly and pristine and Gurus gives the warm tone you’d expect from a tube preamp and the foxgear sounds more like an analog delay, maybe a carbon copy.
I’ve watched every Binson Echorec TPS and have enjoyed them and learned lots from each episode. Great content!
Ah man. I LOVED the Gurus one… right until it broke down. Would like to hear the Cicognani big one too…. Mick here.
@@ThatPedalShow Bummer Mick! Hope mine is not on borrowed time! I remember you liked the Foxgear Echosex Baby and mentioned having some issues with it. I had some problems with signal cutting out on that one too. And yes would love to try Cicognani and this T-Rex unit in the future. And still have trying a real tape delay to look forward to for my tone questing. Have fun with the new toys!
Great show having them all together.
Wow the first 30 seconds of the trex... Absolutely a magic sound immediately a different class / level. Dangit!
Awesome guys, loved this! Heads up the Echosex (Foxgear) also has a 4 head, stereo pedal . I’ve got it and it too is killer! It has a separate switchable swell feature for more of a verb sound, or the standard sound…
I’m in love 🤷🏼♂️ that Tubedramer is a bit special too!!!
The T-rex sounds exquisite definitely want to hear the balanced I/O. Also - fingers crossed that Strymon release a plugin of the volante. While I sold the pedal because I’ve moved to plugins for all time based effects - I do miss the tone of the strymon. But the tone of the T-rex is next level. Frankly, I don’t see a need for a vintage unit. This, an echo fix and a FT TTE would be three ace pieces for a studio.
When you guys have done real tape vs, I've always felt the magic of the real one being bounds above the modern digital recreations even from the 3000 yard view of youtube viewer. I'm not really feeling that magic difference here. The Boonar especially was holding it's own on the T-Rex, so much so I think I preferred the digital one. Well done DSP drum delay makers.
Christ, Mick's Strat sounds so good. You could play it through a can of salmon.
Great episode guys. I would love to own the T-Rex. I have their latest Replicator Tape Delay and just adore it. You just had to include the Seagull didn't you? So glad you did.
Volante gets pigeon holed as a one trick pony for some reason, but it has studio and tape modes as well. It has long been my do-it-all delay.
I am a Catalinbread user. I think there are better sounding options, but its size is the main factor for my choice. My board fits 10 pedals tightly, and I also need a slap back delay too on the board.
The boonar is also very (surprisingly) small - 1590B Size!
I have the Catalinbread on the same board as the Pink Flow. I think you're right about better sounding units but I have it on a setting that works really well with the Pink Flow and a few other pedals. It's a 'special effect' designed to give me a very rhythmic delay for a couple of songs. Much as I'd love something like the Boonar or even the T-Rex I can't justify the expense given what I need from an Echorec type of pedal. I also make sure to run it at 18v just for the extra clarity it seems to give.
I have the Echorec as well and I like it quite a lot. It's a very good pedal for the money. The only other delay that I use is the Halo, which is also very good. 😎
Another fun show! I’m a delay junkie because of you two! The T-Rex sounded great but it’s a bit out of my price range. All the others had their good points. I would love to try any of them. Thanks.
This popped up just as I sat down for lunch. Excellent 👍😂
I’m always blown away by the beautiful music you both play. When can I stream TPS instrumental on Spotify? Let’s have an album fellas!
Would you redo this with the Cicognani Engineering Le Prism and the other newer models like the Pompeii T1 and pe603. The Echosex is old and outdated. Maybe add in the Meris LVX? Please. :-)
Cool this episode coming out just after I got back from visiting my old bandmates, during which the drummer and bassist had been trying to jam Interstellar Overdrive.
We went on a few 20+ minute excursions to another realm, over the three weeks I was there. 😆
Always loved the Echorec, but it really does get me playing a certain way, because of how it works, unless I just use it as a more reverb sounding effect, as Gilmour did on Echoes.
google Specialbinson Superechorec 2 7TE TR , It is the king of all echorecs made by the guy who bought the Binson factory and all their NOS parts.
Such a good episode thanks guys!!! Been wanting to hear how well it plays together with the volante :) and the seagull noises!! Ah they stole my heart with laughter
Totally amazing video! You just save my day!😂😂😂😂…and the Seagull end part it looks more than a suffered, longer fart than a Seagull claim!😂😂😂 I love ya!❤
A classic rendition of Pink Fraud’s ‘Run Like Heck’.
Love delay so much of all kinds great video. "If you are taking one on your board tomorrow, which one?" For sure the T-Rex so I could sell it on Reverb for $2k. For sure if money is no object, but I think the DD200 for the money is amazing. Under 200 bones used for sure. Could have watched another hour of this. Thanks so much guys. Cheers!
I still have that feeling, that those great units like Volante or Boonar are doing great delays, but something different then actual Drum echo.
There is something, that is yet to be captured.
like the Volante has awesome features, but the base sound is still miles behind what Binson is doing.
Mostly the noise...
@@AndrewNuttall if you dont hear the difference, then I guess good for you?
The Volante is best thought of as a digital delay with a great interface IMO. It doesn't have the colored preamp of a Catalinbread Belle Epoch or Boonar (or real Echoplex/Binson) and doesn't particularly sound like any tape delay I've used (never had a real drum delay in hand).
The pink flow!!!!
Of all the amazing stuff that I aspire to or have acquired, the Echorec is one piece of which I am truly unworthy. Ironically it was Hank Marvin who inspired mini-me to be a guitar player, but it is fairly apparent that music is not my strong suit. T Rex are pretty heroic for giving these to the World and they actually make the Echo that I aspire to- next summer I believe that I will score a pair of Replicators to complete the Analog Echo section of the rig, God willing and the creek don't rise. 🎸
Never picked it up before when you've mentioned it, and I can't get my ears around actually what it is, but the "Strymon sound" is like its gone through a different chain. I love T-rex pedals, what a job they've done on this, very impressive. Also, nice that the Echosex got a mention, it does all that I need when it comes to magnetic drum delay, and does a nice job as a doubler when obvious delay isn't required.
Although the Boonar doesn’t sound the same, I like it the most, especially for the washy thing
XLR on the T-Rex is quieter too. There's also a sneaky Kill-Dry on the Circuit board. I've already modded mine with a switch, which was simple, but scary to do. Makes the pedal much better as outboard Delay
Aha! That’s one question I had - the kill dry bit… Thankyou!
Pleasure. I did ask T-Rex first about voiding the warranty. Lars said it was no problem and even suggested the switch that I use.
"Costs you nothing."
SIRS...that has not been my experience
Ha! Apols....
Nice to see the new TRex Echirec but I think it should be compared with the classic ones
Similar prices and are supposed to be THE Echorecs, so better than any emulation pedal
Costing 2k, its target customer is probably considering getting a classic echorec already
Volante costs 1/5, has a smaller footprint, is stereo, offers a dozen of extra functionalities
I'd recomend either VOL or the Boonar for most people that want an echorec soundalike
The others are great too but miss the iconic individual repeat head activation experience
Other echo pedals can emulate that sound, that Boss is a great example. Multi-purposes
Keep it up! These videos are pure gold and guys are all amazing (including the public) 🤟
My $15 used monoprice tape echo does the same thing!! What a load of OvErpRiCeD JuNK!!
It's a delay ? It's a reverb ? No it's AMAZING !!!!