What Do the Dutch Think about Russia? | Easy Dutch 25
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Camera and subtitles: Mario Tedesco
Russian translation: Tim and Katja Vertelina
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For me, the new subtitling is better because I often found myself subconsciously reading the English subtitles, even when it wasn't necessary. Now I can just read the Dutch subtitles, and can always click the CC button if English subtitles are necessary. I hope you guys continue with the new subtitling method!
Thanks! What is your setup? Are you watching from PC or mobilephone?
I prefer the older set up. But thats just my opinion. Great video!
@@EasyDutch PC, so perhaps that makes a difference. I want to thank you for making these videos, both Easy Dutch and Super Easy Dutch, as they have been very helpful.
Привет! Naar iedere Rus die Nederlands leert! Met veel liefs uit Nederland
Dankjewel! Ik ben russisch en ik houd van Nederlandse cultuur en taal! 🌻
@@andrisk2703 Я нидерландец и очень люблю русский язык и культуру!
@@andrisk2703 Beter nederlands is: ik ben een Rus. Die malle gewoonte om het bijvoeglijk naamwoord te gebruiken in plaats van het zelfstandig naamwoord is natuurlijk weer overgewaaid uit Noord-Amerika. I am Jewish in plaats van I am a Jew. Wat vind je zo mooi aan de nederlandse cultuur? Klompen, tulpen en molens? En onze taal is een rot-taal met die lekijke harde g. Frans is veel mooier.
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I like the old version of the subtitles because I enjoy comparing all three languages simultaneously. Also, if the subs are hardbaked into the video itself, then they'll always work. Regardless, great video, keep it up!
Dont you think three languages on screen is too chaotic?
@@EasyDutch Not really, the third one is also smaller. Perhaps using a different colour for one of the main languages would help people ignore it if they want to? Or perhaps one language could go at the top of the screen. If I were watching a normal documentary then yes, 3 langs might be too much, but I'm here primarily for the language :)
I also prefer the older version. When I watch this video on my phone, I have to choose between having the English subtitles on our not, because if they're on, they cover the Dutch ones. I like to compare the languages and that's actually what I like the most in the easy languages channels.
I definitely prefer the old version. It always struck me as the best, and most convenient, subtitling method I'd ever seen for language learning. For example, if a slang word I don't know is used by a Dutch person interviewed on the street, then I can quickly glance down to see both the Dutch and the smaller English subtitles and it clicks immediately (both the word in Dutch and it's translation), without me having to interrupt the flow of the video by turning on the captioned English subtitles which then cover the original Dutch subtitles in a black box rather than appearing more subtly below them as the original subtitles you provided nicely did. The experience is now more like pausing to pick up a dictionary and interrupting your flow while reading a book whenever you don't know a word. It was MUCH smoother before.
If you are using a PC to watch the video, you can drag the English subtitles to another area of the video.
@@hfchow007 I still prefer the original format. It remains far more elegant and unobtrusive, and I don't have to scan different parts of my screen for what was previously side-by-side.
Do the captions overlap on your screen? Could you give us more details about your setup? What are you watching from?
@@EasyDutch On my Windows, the English caption usually covers the Dutch subtitles but you can move it up to other parts of the video (it won't stay to the bottom though). On my IPhone, the position is fixed and is usually below the Dutch subtitles, depending on how long the sentence is. In any event, I personally prefer the new version but since so many of your viewers want the old version back, I wouldn't mind if you bring it back in the next video. When I'm learning a new language, I just don't want to go back to the English translation all the time because after a few times of watching, I basically understand the gist of the conversations and the English translation is not necessary. But each to their own...
what a good episode . thank you guys
Good episode. Overall for the current situation. Keep it up
Goeie video, dank u! Gezien de recente gebeurtenissen, denk ik dat veel mensen geinteresseerd zouden zijn in een nieuwe versie.
Black page in the history of Russia. Is this really interesting?
really nice topic! hello from Russia :)fijne dag!
To me the older subtitles were better, as I liked to compare resemblances and differences, and get used to missing words, but progressivelly pickung them up linking them to context.
Maybe the advanced students would like to practice in a harder level, but for beginners, the two-languages subtitles seems a lot better to pick up some words and having feedback without having to pause, get back and turn on subtitles.
And even because no-subtitles or dutch-only subtitles can be found in news on youtube, or any kind of dutch video with auto-subtitles
That's my perapective :)
Dankjewel!
Edit: actually yeah, you can turn them on only once! But I still prefered the older format for the text (since in mobile I'm not sure if I can configure my subtitles as desired)
Thanks for you feedback! Are you watching in landscape mode on your mobilephone?
For me the old subtitles was much better! These overlap on my phone. And even if they didn't, if UA-cam changes their subtitle positioning in the future then all videos posted before that would suffer. The great thing about your old setup is that you don't depend on the specifica if UA-cam's subtitle system
Thank you for your feedback! :)
Спасибо, было очень интересно!!!
Russisch oorlogsschip, fack jou!
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Tell us your secret, How do you know so many languages, and please we love the older subtitles is good to compare Dutch and English.
Passion, interest and consistency! ;)
Hoi! I like the old version of subtitles because I can read both languages at the same time :)
read 2 languages and try to translate it in German lol
So in this video the Nederlanders talk about Russians being drunk on Vodka while in the Russian video they talk of the Dutch as drugheads and drug pushing pimps.🤣
BTW Given that THE VOICE music contest TV show is a Dutch Franchise, would it have killed Dutch TV to have presented over the years the best of VOICE RUSSIA and VOICE RUSSIA KIDS. These Nederlanders who know absolutely nothing of Russian people and culture would have had their eyes & ears opened. Currently the entire official volumes of VOICE RUSSIA on UA-cam has now been blocked by UA-cam since the escalation in Ukraine. I do not remember UK and US music shows being blocked as a result of the shameful US/UK foreign policy.
Als Nederlander hou ik erg van de Russische cultuur en de mensen! Vandaar dat ik ook Russisch leer😉😁
M F Wat goed van jou om russisch te leren. Hoe doe je dat? Heb je goed studie-materiaal?
Russian is racist country
@@temirlanomuraliev8106 dit is een kanaal om de Nederlandse taal te leren. By the way, your English is not correct. The country is called Russia, not Russian. Во всех странах есть люди, которые близоруки и расисты. Es gibt bereits genug Leute, die nervige Dinge im Internet posten, anstatt etwas Nützliches zu tun. Allez apprendre une langue! Asla öğrenemeyecek kadar yaşlı değilsin!
Een programma als Duolingo kan je helpen met de eerste beginselen van een nieuwe taal. Als je wilt proberen Russisch te leren is het kanaal van EasyRussian erg leuk, en als je Nederlander bent zou ik dan ook eens naar het kanaal van Katja Vertelina kijken.
@@ruudjonkman1952 Met duolingo wil ik niks te maken hebben. Dat stomme engels. Ik zal seffens kijken bij Katja Vertelina. Knap dat je die barbaar uit de steppen in het turks beantwoordt. Het is lang geleden dat ik die taal leerde, maar ik kan het nog wel lezen. Je schrijft dat een taal leren niet moeilijk is of worden van gelijke strekking.
Ik heb allebei de video’s gezien, ze zijn allebei erg leuk, maar wat weten we weinig van elkaar. Nederlanders denken dat Russen veel wodka drinken en Russen denken bij Nederland aan tulpen, klompen en aan drugs. Dat is toch een beetje jammer, volgens mij verschillen Russen en Nederlanders niet zoveel.
Ruud Jonkman Heel goed gezegd. Veel Russen zijn noordras-mensen.
The blonde guy from the video, if you read the comments, I would really love to chat with you and tell you about my country and our life here.
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Please, the new version! It's so much better
I prefer older version. When i don't understand the word, i can just quickly see the meaning without having to pause the video and find the pause button. (especially when in the full-screen video mode)
Thank you for your feedback!
Ты крут!!!👍Спасибо большое! Классные видео для изучающих, как всегда!
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Hi, I personally prefer both subtitles shown at the same time because I can learn the vocab by comparing the two. Maybe it's impossible to please everyone, just at least provide both NL and ENG subtitles as options on UA-cam setting, I add a UA-cam extension to my chrome to have two subtitles shown at the same time. And those who would like to have only NL or ENG sub can also enjoy the video their own way.
Thanks for your feedback, when you open the caption subtitles, cant you compare it?
Oeii sorry, my cursor was at the screen when I was commenting so I thought that the sub would cover the sub on the on video. But well yeah no 😀
In mobile, CC overlaps Dutch. I prefer older version.
Very interesting video! I was a bit surprised that the interviewed people seem to know so little about Russian culture, art and history. Or about the food. It was almost exclusively politics, I really didn't expect that. But your Russian sounds amazing and very advanced, congratulations! I myself don't speak Russian, but you Tim do sound very genuinely Russian to me when you speak it.
I do must say it really depends on the person. Because I do know more and the sister of my grandma visited Moscow with her husband. I wanted to visit Russia too, but never been there so far. I do know more and some Russian words :) and I think these people never visited Russia. That might be the biggest reason. And also how you ask the question to the people can also play a roll. What do you know about the Russian art for example? because if you ask: what do you think about Russia.... then a lot of people would start about politics because of the period in time that we are in the past week. In my case I know 2 russians and I know 1 person from Kazachstan which might helped me by knowing more cultural things but I dont know for sure.
We have a saying in English which seems quite apropos here: "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." The OG subtitles were already perfect.
It actually depends on the perspective, for some advanced learners the new version could be better because it's more challenging or because of other reasons, you know? :)
@@EasyDutch I am an advanced Dutch student, C1 working toward C2. The best thing about Easy Dutch to me is people occasionally using slang I may not have heard yet when you interview them on the street. The best thing about the original subtitles is that I can easily look down and see both the Dutch word/phrase I wasn't familiar with and the English translation without having to turn on subtitles that will then cover the Dutch text unless I then take an additional step of shifting them around the screen somewhere. Anyway, if you're going to change them you're going to change them. I've made my best effort to persuade you of the value (nay, brilliance!) of the original format.
@@jamesarmel We havent made a final decision yet! This was a test. According to the feedback of the audience we will make a decision!
This Dutch Guy from Easy Dutch very good speak Russian
Het valt mij erg tegen hoe weinig wij Nederlanders van Rusland weten. Misschien had de video in Tilburg moeten worden opgenomen. Met enig geluk was dan de naam Anna Pavlovna nog gevallen ;-).
Presentator, hoeveel talen spreek jij vloeiend? Ik volg dit kanaal al een tijdje en bij vlagen schud je best wel wat talen uit de mouw.
Tim spreekt 11 talen vloeiend!
@@EasyDutch Wat knap! Ik ben al blij dat ik Frans, Duits, Spaans en Engels spreek. Heb me ooit gewaagd aan Sranang Tongo, Papiamentu en Bahasa Indonesia. Italiaans pik je makkelijk op in het land en met Nederlands is dat negen. Tim wint met voorsprong!
@@tomm4073 met Nederlands spreek ik drie talen en ik spreek niet eens Nederlands goed genoeg... :D jij mag trots op jou zijn !
@@Empobaer Dat is zo vriendelijk van u. Dankuwel! :-)
@@tomm4073 Easy Dutch vermeldt niet welke talen Tim spreekt. Ik spreek nederlands, frans, duits, engels, italiaans en spaans. Met veel moeite deens. Heb eens turks gesproken maar het meeste ook weer verloren. Nochtans kan ik enkele zinnen zeggen zonder woordenboek. Een brokkie Turk was eens zo brutaal om aan een kennis van mij te vragen of hij getrouwd was. Ik zei tegen die kennis: dan moet je het volgende zeggen: Kadinlar bana sevmiyorlar, de vrouwen moeten mij niet. Voorts spreek ik een weinig arabisch. Leuk dat je sranang tongo oftewel neger-engels hebt geleerd. Wist je dat 'allemaal' neger-engels is? In goed nederlands is het altegader, hetzelfde als het engels alltogether.
Ik denk we weten alleen een beetje over Rusland.
Ik denk niet slecht over Rusland en Russen.
Alleen goede dingen.
Het is een te grote land om de mensen te begrijpen.
Een mooi en heel grote land.
Het is makkelijker te begrijpen of de ondertitelingen zijn in het Nederlands en Engels maar het is oké ook in verschillende manieren gemaakt.
Wow wie krass gut hast du die russische Hymne gesungen! Großes Lob an dich!✨✨
Wahr, so viele Sprachen zu sprechen ist voll beeindruckend
I prefer the new version of the subtitles because so you can try to understand the language without accidentally looking to the translation
Aan de kleding van de mensen te zien is dit al vele maanden geleden opgenomen.
Leuke video deze. Spontane reacties ook, dat ligt natuurlijk vooral aan de manier waarop ze gesteld worden!
Ik zou eens een goed Russisch lesboek willen hebben, hebben jullie misschien tips...met name om het Cyrillisch alfabet te leren.
Ferd. Het cyrillisch lijkt mij verdomd lastig. Ik leerde door zelfstudie verschillende talen dank zij Langenscheidt, maar ik betwijfel of zij russisch hebben in hun pakket.
Hoi, het Cyrillische alfabet is net als het Latijnse grotendeels van het Griekse afgeleid en is niet zo moeilijk te leren. Wat lastiger is dat veel klanken die in het Russisch voorkomen, in jouw eigen taal zo niet voorkomen. En andersom, natuurlijk. Iedereen leert een taal op zijn eigen manier, maar kijk eerst eens naar UA-cam video’s van Easy Russian.
@@ruudjonkman1952 thanks for your explanation!
What is Slav squat he mentioned?
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I prefer the old version... It's easier to learn new phrases and compare them
I prefer the old version because I can directly translate, I don't have to click every two seconds to write down vocab
If you click the CC button, it will show the English subtitles the same way as before. You don't need to click every two seconds, just once if you prefer to have English subtitles.
Thanks for your feedback! Click on what? On pause?
Holland dili?
friz rus?
Prefer older subs, I can't read the dutch along with english because english subs go over the Dutch on phones
Und wie toll ist bitte deine Aussprache auf Russisch! Unfassbar 😍😍 Fast akzentfrei 😍
♥️👍Hallo, iedereen ! Ik ben Russische vrouw maar woon ik in Belgie en ik maakt videos op Nederlands . Bedankt voor deze video 👍
NIET SAAI MET LENA U kunt gerust schrijven: ik ben een Russin. Het is nochtans geen schande om een Russin te zijn?
@@johanvandermeulen9696 bedankt
@@nietsaaimetlena2441 Spasibo. Waar in België woont u? Ik woon in Amsterdam. Ik was vaak in Antwerpen.
@@johanvandermeulen9696 Maar ik woon in Oostende en ik ook hou van Antwerpen .
@@nietsaaimetlena2441 Aha, Oostende. Dat is een plezante plaats, zunne. Ge zijt daar aan zee. Het is de plaats van de beroemde schilder James Ensor. En het is niet ver van Frankrijk. Ik bezocht De Panne en vervolgens Bray-Dunes en Duinkerke. De laatste jaren bezocht ik niet meer België of Frankrijk. Ik overwinterde op de Canarische Eilanden. Daar kom je ook Russen tegen. Op Tenerife bezocht ik vaak een russisch spijshuis.
The old version was better. Please put it back😔
Thanks for your feedback! Why do you like the old version better?
My thoughts on the subtitles are that you would probably get more views with English subtitles. But it does not matter 2me no subs would be fine, unless u speak Russian
In my daily life in The Netherlands, i don't think about Russia, sorry 😑..
But we do have a lot of Ukrainian refugees here..
Voor mij is beter de oude versié. Above is dutch, below is english ( for the subtitle) because i can see both of the languages.
If you click on CC, you can activate the subtitles in English! :)
Welke Nederlandse stad/dorp is dit?
Utrecht :)
@@EasyDutch
When the new Google translate feature in UA-cam does absolutely nothing with a comment just comprising of "Utrecht"... 🤣
De presentator blijft me verrassen. Spreekt hij ook Russisch? Dat zag ik niet aankomen. Petje af!
This video seems to be recorded in summer, I'm wondering how they feel about Russia now 😂
Still oke, nothing wrong. Its all provoking that usa does!
Marina Yes that hit me too. In the meantime the political situation did acerbate because of problems with the Ukraine.
@@johanvandermeulen9696 It's not problems in Ukraine, but a genocide of Ukrainian people organized by Russia. Make a difference please.
Die euh en uhm uit de ondertiteling halen zou het toch leesbaarder maken.
Bedankt voor je feedback!
Older version is much better: easier to glance at the English if I don't understand the Dutch immediately.
Is it not easy to glance at the captions when watching?
I prefer the new version!
Old version
New subtitles are better!!!
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Thank you for highlighting the aspect that the local media shape the picture of Russia=Putin, when it's not true. Russia is a huge diverse multinational country with a rich culture and history, many achievements and wonders of nature.
Дорогие вы наши голландчики. Люди везде одинаковые и мыслят приблизительно одинаково. Не забывайте об этом, когда говорите о ком бы то ни было. Помните, про вас думают точно так же. Вы - такие же жертвы режима и пропаганды.
Please put the subtitles in english. Englis is not even my mother tongue so I can't do it without the subtitles.
Have you tried clicking on CC? You can choose between English and Russian
А когда следующее видео?) When will be the next video ??
Oh I see, thanks
Waiting for it
Congratulations! Anti-Russian propaganda in the Netherlands was successful, if all they know about us is Putin 😆
And all that Russia knew about us was drugs, your point is ?
There was no need for anti-Russian propaganda.
ik vind de ondertiteling prima
Dank je wel! :)
- Mario
Тим молодец, Goed zo
Ja so? Rusland niet nederlands yes I know dutch not that much tho
Привет из России, а точнее Сибири, Новосибирск 🌞🌿 интересные точки зрения высказали недерландцы . Всё это имеет место быть. Я из тех кто не поддерживает режим Путина с самого начала. У вас достаточно свободная и интересная страна, а люди эмоциональны и имеют свою точку зрения, что очень хорошо 💙💛🙏
Groeten uit Rusland, of beter gezegd Siberië, Novosibirsk interessante standpunten werden geuit door de Nederlanders. Dit alles heeft zijn plaats. Ik ben een van degenen die het regime van Poetin vanaf het begin niet steunen. Je hebt een redelijk vrij en interessant land, en mensen zijn emotioneel en hebben hun eigen standpunt, wat erg goed is💙💛🙏
Three languages at once are better
This didnt age well ahahahahahaha
For sure, not a popular nation in Western World, nowadays.
That's funny you say that because a lot of people want to live in The Netherlands and knowing how life is here.
Can't speak for Russia tho..
Posso dire lo stesso dell'Italia dopo aver scelto Meloni
Old version worked fine. And I am not so generous praising Russia as others here. The only place I liked was the Hermitage in St. Petersburg. Most of the rest was drab, dispirited, and uninviting...even in summer.
Why do you like the traditional one more?
@@EasyDutch It is not that I prefer one over another, but rather that I am accustomed to the older one as well as those in "Easy German" and the like. Please continue to provide interviews as you see fit. They are of great interest to the casual traveler.
Meest pragmatische volk van de wereld
Mooie bollen op de punten, ja.....
Putin!
(Also, from Ivan the Terrible, through the Romanovs, through the Central Committee of the Communist Party to Putin, there has been no history of democracy in Russia.)
Well, Asia, mostly
Love to the Russian population 🇷🇺👍🇳🇱
Je kan wel goed Russisch vind ik, heb je misschien ver weg Russische roots? Je ziet er ook een beetje Slavisch uit niet verkeerd bedoeld want ik vind Slavische mannen juist knap. Ik vind Russen een mooi volk en ik vind het ook een mooie taal, heeft zoiets sprookjesachtig. Wat Putin nu doet naar Oekraïne is verschrikkelijk en het treft ook de Russische bevolking, want zij willen dit niet. Een interessante video vond ik sommige mensen waren zeer open.
Nee, Tim is Nederlands en Spaans, hij heeft Russisch later geleerd! :)
- Mario
Funny how everybody know Putin in Netherlands and no one in Russia knows any Dutch politician.
Ukrajinský jazyk?
Fríský jazyk?
Holandština?
Ruský jazyk?
kazašský jazyk
Uzbekistánský jazyk
Ne Uzbekistán SSR 🇷🇺🇺🇦🇹🇯 tádžický
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да практически ничего они не знают, типичные европейцы
Вы видели русскую версию, где спрашивают про голландцев? Они ничего не знают о Нидерландах или только стереотипы!
@@fodiographer Соглашусь про стереотипы, но всё же русские в том видео больше рассказали о Нидерландах, чем нидерландцы о России в этом видео. Русские не говорили о политике.
@@fodiographer ну хотя-бы говорят про национальную одежду голландцев, каналов , тюльпаны,.... а тут только Путин и все.
@@oksanabashkirova7270 Все верно. Типичный русский - ищет позитивные моменты в других культурах, старается говорить хорошее о людях, периодически мыслит стереотипами (особенно если не бывал в этих странах и не видел лично). Типичный европеец - поливает грязью русских. Всё.
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Russia is the future of Europe!
The past, actually
oh, I hope not
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TOTAL IGNORANCE OMG!!!
Have you seen the Russian version where they ask about dutch people? Talking about ignorance .. they only associate The Netherlands with drugs, red light district and wooden shoes and tulips which is bullshit :)
Also i have been to St. Petersburg with some friends of mine and one of my friends is black and he was treated awful. Wasn't allowed entrance in certain clubs, Taxi's didn't accept him, racist words yelled at him in the street. It was really a big shock to me. Putin saying that all Ukrainians are Nazis is laughable and a big joke. I never go to Russia again that's for sure!
@@fodiographer
The racist is everywhere in the "W" countries. Are you telling me that there are none in Holland? Go to Ukraine with your friend and see how nice they are there with their AZOV heroes.
It's a "W" deadly sin, you either dominate it, or it rule over you and drags you into the river of fire. You sir are blinded by your Russophobia.
@@fodiographer So sad to know that your friend had such a terrible experience here. But I wanted to say such maltreatment is not a common thing here and it's rather an exception. Of course some Russian people might have racist views, but also there are so many kind and welcoming Russians that don't care about the race. I hope one day you will change your mind and give visiting Russia another chance 😊
@@fodiographer So erg?, Tjezus!.
волноваться ей стоит...вам одного Посейдона хватит чтобы вы под воду ушли
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