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The year after the bubble year should be viewed as the more “flawed or bubble” year because it was one of the shortest off seasons in sports history which practically gasses every team who went deep into the bubble into the next season
@@itachiuchiha1468 an lock out isn’t as bad as shorten season + Jalen brown, Kyrie, Harden,Trae young all being hurt in the East and Bron , AD, Kawhi, Murray and MPJ all being hurt in the west.
What people don’t realize is that there could’ve been no pandemic basketball to begin with. That’s the reason I don’t really get people who try to de-value the bubble, we could’ve missed out on basketball altogether during those times. The league did the best they could under the circumstances, and it was a pretty good job too.
Well u realize LeBron said he didmt want to basketball without fans in the seats but when the season almost got called, after usimg that time to practice wih his teammates every single day (only team that did). Then when they said they may cancel the season LeBron pulled a 180 and said he wanted it to play for the fans at home lol
@@Shawn-Leider you would understand why he said that in the first place right? During that time, basketball was suspended because of the pandemic. Kudos to the NBA for at least putting an effort to continue the season despite it being on the bubble. We would rather have something to cheer for rather than voiding the season, meaning all of the 19-20 season would be meaningless if that happened.
I agree that this title is especially weird, but I think that the Nuggets back to back 3-1 comebacks are definitely valid. I only disagree with how it's discussed since it's not the bubble that made a healthy Kawhi and Paul George choke three consecutive games, the Nuggets deserve all of the credit for that.
As a nuggets fan, if the games were in arenas with fans, I don’t think we go down 3-1 vs Utah, I think it woulda been 2-2 and we eventually win but the clippers… I remember we were a bad road team for a few seasons back then, doubt nuggets woulda been able to win a game 5 and 7 at staples
@@babiahsnipppsYou can have that, we’ll have this: Clippers didnt need to play in Denver. Altitude is something people always come up with as an excuse when playing against Colorado-based teams. Now that the playing field is equal and they still beat some ass, of course people come up with something else to give an excuse
Exactly! Dom was just salty his celtics lost to Miami twice in the same round inside and outside the bubble. Denver was legit since 2020 and truly believes they would beat the same team even back in 2020 with a regular playoff setting.
@@nicksamp515 I don’t think they would have gone down 3-1 to Utah if they played in Denver. Miami has been the best team in the east the last 4 szn. But I agree if it was Denver Vs Miami in 2020 it wouldn’t have felt as special like this past ring. Winning in Denver was special.
I dont really think to myself that asterisks in the way people talk about them exist. Every single championship in nba history was affected by injury, lockouts or some major factor that could've altered how the finals played out. The bubble to me was as weird as it sounds one of my favorite forms of basketball to watch because it was just hooping at the highest level and it got so many of my favorite players paid because of how they hooped. It extended the careers of many nba players and it was in a sense a blessing to players who suffered injuries like Steph, KD, and Kyrie. I could've only imagined what KD Curry and Kyrie wouldve done in the bubble, probably have some 50 bombs in the playoffs, but from the way I see it, if all teams are on an equal playing field, it should simply come down to the better team winning. The bubble to me also put into perspective just how damn good nba players are. Without any fans or any external distractions just hooping i saw what happens when literally hooping was these players lives for three months. I do get that its the furthest from healthy for the mental and i understand why pg said it was hard for him to play but just the level of basketball was so high.
@@cell2raw604imo anyone who actually played sports would respect this opinion unless they are biased If the playing field is leveled and fair I'm in the same situation as you are The winner is simply the better one of us 2 opponents That's the essence of sports
@@tpsam exactly they’re just making a bunch of excuses bc bron won, anyone with a brain to think logically knows that’s at some point ppl need to stop acting ignorant
8:25 Arguing that the Nuggets somehow had an advantage being in the Bubble instead of their actual home court to explain them coming back down 3-1 twice doesn't make any sense to me. They're the ones who lost out of having a beneficial home court advantage in my opinion. The numbers back this up.
@@AG30but would they have been down 3-1 in the first place vs the jazz probably not and they would been more well rested allowing for them to still possibly when the series these are just hypotheticals tho
The bubble was awesome, Dom2k makes excellent points about the lack of crowd atmosphere but it was amazing to watch well rested athletes, with no travel time play at the highest levels. If you actually watched the games you know
Even before the Lakers made the finals that year, people were trying real hard to say they wouldn't even make it Portland Trailblazers: Greatest 8th seed of all time Houston Rockets: NBA 2K 5-out offense with PJ Tucker at center. Denver Nuggets: Comeback kids possibly pulling a 3rd straight 3-1 comeback.
The Trailblazers factually arent the greatest 8th seed, by a list. The Rockets had zero centers vs a squad that had 3 near 7 footers and a 6'9 dude that weighs as much as a center. The Nuggets were okay, but had horrible defense. Literally why they got players like KCP, Brown and Gordon and with Jokic becoming actually one of the better big man defenders they won a chip quite soon after. I'm a Lakers fan but lets not act like anybody that year was stopping a healthy Lebron and AD. Even Kawhi and George was not comparable and would mostly be an equal match bc Kawhi is the best playoff performer when healthy. But honestly what time was better than the Lakers? Next to some dumb haters, everybody knew the Lakers unless something went wrong would win. ESPECIALLY without home advantage etc.
No way you calling that Portland team the greatest 8th seed ever and we all knew the rockets would lose. The narrative all season was lakers vs clippers in wcf so idk who was discounting them
@@Herosenninbut the narrative during those times were exactly what the initial post had been circling before the Lakers faced off against those teams. chuck even called for a sweep twice when portland and houston won game 1.
I never understood this narrative. We're talking about a season where players had plenty of time to rest and then get back to game speed. We didn't have any superteams, just superstar duos. The teams were healthy and rested, home court advantage wasn't a thing so it just came down to getting the W. I think all the hate about this ring is only happening because LeBron and the Lakers won it. If ANY other team had won, the narratives and storylines would be very different. In my opinion, this is on paper the most balanced playoffs we have ever witnessed and the best team won. No major injuries, no fatigue, no home court advantages or distractions, just pure basketball.
There was a f*cking pandemic going on!! The bubble was nothing but a money grab that favored the Lakers because Kobe died. There was a lot going on that year so who in the right mind could play basketball for real with all that was going. There were also players that even said they were going through depression.
I called the Heat going to the finals in 2020. People thought I was crazy. I told them the bench was as good as the starting line up and teams didn't know what to do with them. I saw how Jimmy B took practices and improving seriously and how it trickled down the line up. No other team took basketball as seriously as they did.
The idea that it's the hardest makes no sense because it's a variable applied to everyone. It's like saying the 3pt line being shortened made it harder or easier. For some teams yea, which is the point because it's different from what we think of as a normal ring. We can't tell how much this sudden, single year variable, helps or hurts the landscape of the league.
Depends on how you see it. The bubble was literally hoops without BS and imo the most disciplined, focused and determined teams succeeded. The Heat are all about basketball, LeBron saw a chance at a ring that year and went crazy to get it, meanwhile other teams were getting distraction after distraction and they never had a chance no matter how talented they were.
If you then listened to the reasons he gave, it was obvious he's just talking and it's just how he personally mentally felt. Not at all an objective statement with solid logical reasons.
@@Biggiifulu sound dumb his perspective is all that matters yours dont matter you aint playing only ppl that can diagnose the bubble is the players who are u to tell a nba player otherwise 😂😂😂😂😂😂 yall be crazy om da internet wit no sense
Everyone played in the same conditions, it’s not the most valuable ring but the Lakers were one of the best teams in the league that season and carried it into the bubble. Would’ve been the same result regardless of where they played.
@@vulcanraven9701 kinda other teams fault for shunning dwight howard (his contract wasnt guaranteed) and AD trade was a fair trade, its other teams fault that they didnt go after him
Dom didn’t really go into why there was always going to be an asterisk. He didn’t really present a list of reasons. He mentioned lack of playoff atmosphere and extended break. This discussion is also unique to the NBA. The NHL also had a similar playoff situation and there is not a fraction of the narrative around the Tampa Bay Lightning stanley cup compared to the Lakers Larry Obrien
its not really valid but it really doesnt put the pressure of having a home crowd on your back. Theres a reason why alot of unknown players popped off when there aint 20k+ people watching and cheering your every step. It would be silly to not count it as a championship bcuz it was pure basketball but the nerves and the pressure was really there.
@@PDunlo yes lakers would have an advantage but doesnt change that 20k people watching you regardless of them cheering for you would create alot of nerves/pressure.
The only problem with this argument is despite ppls opinions at the time the nuggets and heat actually were just that good as we now know. It seems like it’s like oh the nuggets randomly made the wcf then had to get better before they could go on another real run, but ppl forget that this playoffs has been the first playoffs Jamal Murray actually played in since the bubble
@@PolandSOulx. And had Curry won the chip and a finals mvp in the bubble, plenty of people would call it a Mickey Mouse ring still and a Mickey Mouse trophy for his FMVP. The bubble was always gonna have an asterisk for people unfortunately.
@@PolandSOulxyou sound like a Steph hater with that fmvp argument but regardless we know he has 2-3 fmvps that the media didn’t wanna give him especially his first finals
@@PolandSOulx I’m not even talking about that tho lmao nor do I even ride that notion. You oughta reread what I said cuz it seems my point just flew over you lol. I’ve seen ppl criticize Curry for only having won just 1 FMVP at this point. You yourself just also put an asterisk on Curry’s FMVP.
@@AG30 2-3 fmvps. Lol keep dreamin. KD was the clear cut best player in Gs during their b2b. Curry was their best in 2015, but if iggy didn't stop Lebron from avg 40-45pts during that time, curry wouldn't have that ring tho that's why they gave it to iggy for holdin down LeBron to just 35ppg for them to win in 6 with LeBron having delly as his 2nd best teammate. LOL
It's the best tournament the NBA will ever have. It happened in a vacuum. The talent was naked in its display and unadulterated by chants in the stands. No home or away advantage... As an Australian NBA fan I will always treasure it.
I just refuse to agree that an NBA competition were everyone was cut off from any outside contact in the world. And not allowed to leave UNLESS they lost. Where multiple staff, and players didn't attend. Inside a hotel basketball gym is just a legitimate ring in comparison to every other one.
It’s not Bron that I see people complain bout. Most of the reasons I see is cuz the whole league didn’t play, ppl called Miami going to the finals a fluke, and how they try to say it’s one of the hardest to ever win. I don’t think people should discount 2020 though when Miami was able to make it to the finals again.
I genuinely think if any team aside from Lebron’s won in the bubble, nobody would talk shit about it at all, or if they did it would be way fewer people. I also think that the Bucks would’ve come back down 3-0 against the Heat is Giannis hadn’t gotten hurt.
I don't wanna be that guy, but the thumbnail had me thinking "Curry would shoot 60% without fans lmao". If the people were right about the pressure getting to him, imagine how he'd be with most of the pressure taken off.
Absolutely. If Curry had won in the bubble. Folks would talk crap on him just as much. After they just won 2 with KD, they discount 2015 cause Kyrie got injured.. if he won this 'discounted' chip, man they would talk so much stuff about him, like they still do now, even tho he earned his chips, if you actually look at it, especially the last one. We know what Rich Paul is doing. I would only say the bubble was hard, only in the fact, that you basically playing on a neutral court, so there was no crowd noise to effect anything.
Agree that Curry would've had the same narrative, just like LeBron. If Rich Paul compared Kawhi, who were the most hyped up star that time, plus a direct competitor to LeBron that same bubble, none of this "bubble argument" could've surfaced.
@@PolandSOulxhe’s gonna win his second finals mvp next year and he should have 3 right now if it’s not for lebron being a coward and having influence on the media and putting narratives to stop steph from getting those because he’s sooo threaten by steph passing him and being the second greatest off all time which he will be. Lebron beat him in 2021 when klay was injured dont u guys use kyrie n Kevin love injury so we gotta use the same for the play in game and last year it’s wasn’t lebron vs steph it was steph vs ad and lebron and it’s not the same because lebron wasn’t even the best player on the team it’s Ad so 2 superstars vs 1 😂😂😂 just like u cried when kd was on the team
Curry time over. That team not winning shit and I'm Cp3's biggest fan. It's over for them niggas. Curry always 2nd to Magic. So live with it and move on.
I believe that the exclusions of certain players (through testing or worried about transmission) made this title a non-starter for me no matter who won it.
It's just a cope that all championships have a real asterisk to them. Just because something always happens doesn't mean it affects the validity. The bubble is not an asterisk. Several teams getting injured out of the playoffs is a real asterisk. Or a star player in the opposing team.
#GuruBasketballKieroSays i always believed that although no fans, the main hate for the Bubble Championship is because LeBron and the Lakers won it. They still gave us the trophy. We still hung up a banner in STAPLES Center
The hate comes from people feeling the lakers bought their roster, and hence the championship. Similar to how people felt about the heat, but major pllayers like KD Kyrie or Curry were injured in 2020 playoffs
@@vulcanraven9701 The Clippers didn’t draft any of those guys 😂. It’s definitely Lakers and Lebron hate. To be honest it was anyone but them for the Haters. When they won it the haters said it didn’t count. Ain’t no way people would say it don’t count had the Lakers lost to the Clippers. That would be we were right about the Lakers moment for sure for the media and fans that picked the Clippers to beat them.
To say the bubble championship doesn’t count is disingenuous yes. The the flip argument of that, that the bubble championship is the hardest championship of all time is hall of fame dickriding we all know that’s not true at all
The heat, after the bubble were able to go the conference finals and to the nba championship in consecutive years. When the nuggets finally got healthy they instantly won. If anything seeing these 2 teams succeed post-bubble should add more legitimacy to the 2020 championship.
@@VictorVonson In 2022, they went to game 7 against the Celtics in the conference finals. In 2023, they went to the NBA finals, I said consecutive years not "consecutive years right after the bubble".
Idc what nobody says Anthony Davis wouldn’t have made it through that season without that break in between That was just the rest he needed to power through playoffs
I feel like way too much basketball discourse in national media is centred around the goat debate and it’s exhausting. It’s creators like Dom who talk about everything from mini docs on moments in history, player stories and regular season bardershop talk that keep the nba and its history interesting. Respect.
I like that Dom described it as a setup. Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't. Unwarranted criticism for the circumstances if you win, criticism if you lose. What are you supposed to do, though? Lose? It sucks but the bubble did not disappoint those who actually watched it.
Let’s face it they only brought basketball back to give the lakers the title. If the lakers were last place when play stopped, returning wouldn’t of been a topic they would have scrapped the season.
Lakers lost their homecourt advantage so whoever discredits his bubble title is irrelevant. And I know that 3 years ago, Miami and Denver wasn't all that hyped up, but isn't this year's finals meeting also proves that they're a legit title contenders? Cause if we're not hearing anything about the 99 spurs, that is because they've proven they're legit, so it should also mean that those teams are legit since they proved after 2 seasons that they can compete for a title. The only reason they didn't in 2021 is because they were unhealthy. Sick of having the Lakers, Denver, Miami getting disrespected for the bubble since the most hated baller in history won that competition.
I’m ngl to you Dom, in 2020, I didn’t know what he would become, but I knew he was one of the best passing bigs ever. Me and my friend had a bet he’d never average over 24 PPG or win MVP! Glad I chose joke
The bubble was some of the best basketball we'd seen in years, anyone who disagrees is lying. If Steph won they'd praise him for it, if the nuggets went on to comeback from 3-1 against the Lakers, go to the finals, and closeout the playoffs with a ring it'd be considered the greatest championship ever. The Lakers were WELL on pace to win before the pandemic hit, the fact that they went on to win was an expected outcome for many people. The Heat, Nuggets, Lakers, and Celtics were all the same teams that made the conference finals in 2020, those same 3 team made the conference finals 3 years later. Even if you want to say those teams are different, is it just a coincidence? Who's to say that wouldn't have happened in a normal playoff setting? Playoff atmosphere isn't what NBA fans make it out to be, playoffs atmosphere has to do with the pressure and stress of win a championship, not what John in row 2 wrote on his homemade sign. That fact that Denver did what they did isn't a product of the bubble, its a product of other teams not being ready for the moment. Real competitors compete regardless of the circumstances, which is why some players didn't care about winning in the bubble, because they're not real competitors. Also speaking of Miami, 15 games into the season i had them as my pick to come out of the East, that held up all year, and nd guess who won the East, Miami. Is that just a coincidence? Did I just make a lucky guess? Saying those things wouldn't have happened in a "normal" playoff setting is ridiculous, and you can't prove with any fact based evidence to show it wouldn't have. You said yourself that 3-1 combacks have only happened 13 times in NBA history, which only proves how rare it is to do so, the fact that it happened in the bubble means nothing. In all of NBA history, only 1 team has ever done so in the finals, doesn't that mean it will never happen again? Maybe, its statistically unlikely, but its not impossible, and there's no basis to state that it can't. The same way there's no basis to suggest 2 3-1 combacks in the same playoffs wouldn't have happened outside of the bubble. You as well as everyone knows why 2020 gets as much hate as it does, and its not because of the bubble, it's because of the outcome.
What are you talking about? 😂😂😂 lebron has the most influence and control in the media look how many people he has working in the media Richard Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins, Shannon sharpe, nick wright, Dave McMahon, Brian windhorst that’s why steph dosent have 3 finals mvp right now because lebron got his people to change the narratives because he’s soo threatened by steph. That’s why the media never tries to put steph best player in the world even right after he won in 2022 even tho they literally put everyone beat when they win a champion 😂😂😂 we know whose behind all that it’s Lebron and Klutch so yes they would have discredit steph waaay worst. Steph and Lebron have the most and craziest fans yes but who has people for them working in the media and not even just his friends but people that are in klutch too 😂😂😂😂😂 he’s a coward he also was calling the refs after every game vs warriors last year to be saying look their fouling and we’re not getting enough fouls. Like I don’t think you know how scared he is of steph and that’s why rich Paul brought stephs name up because they only think about steph and Jordan his only threats. This is why he wants kyrie or trae young he wants another super team so he can try to get a 5th ring before steph does but cheaters never win that’s why steph is gonna get 2 more rings and finals mvp and be the second greatest of all time
@@joshbonds0073 you're just making up narratives in your head, LeBron doesn't control the media, and half of the people you named aren't within his circle. You literally named Perkins, who has admitted to wanting LeBron to get hurt during a playoff series against him.
The bubble final 4 have legitimately proven they have been the best since 2020 barring injuries. If anything, the 2021 season is the question mark. Bucks, Hawks and Clippers, Suns being the final 4 with the shortest off season ever is highly questionable
People either view it as the most flawed ever because it was the most different. Or they’re gonna view it as the hardest because it was the most different.
You can say the bubble was harder or easier all you want, but having no fans make it different than every championship ever. Still counts but different ….
I remember me throwing my crazy idea that the NBA at the time should I have been a lockdown Battle Royale and the winner would have been guaranteed an easier schedule once basketball was back to normal. As per usual I was ridiculed for this idea. Lol
Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think people would’ve downplayed curry is he won the bubble ring as much as they downplay lebron because curry actually got a ring after the bubble, if bron got a ring after the bubble people wouldn’t make it seem like it was easy or a fluke
@@courtneyvaldez7903 but most people downplaying Brons bubble ring because he hasn’t won’t a won since then, so by that logic, they wouldn’t downplay curry as much because he actually got a ring after the bubble ring
@@AudaciousGaming__people downplay the bubble chip because of the break that gave Lebron and AD time to rest, and the unique circumstances of “the bubble”, not because he hasn’t won since. It was being criticized the day it happened. Thinking Curry wouldn’t get shat on for the same chip is absurd. Everything he’s done is hated on by significant swaths of the basketball world.
@@courtneyvaldez7903 I mean there’s huge amount that saying that if curry gets another ring he’s in the goat convo, but at the same time ur saying they are downplaying everything he does, so maybe we ju!st talking about two different groups of people. I get what ur saying but your talking about different group of people, I’m speaking on the people who have a mutual perspective on both of the players rather than the Curry’s haters or Lebrons haters. People tend to downplay shit if you can’t replicate it multiple or at least one time after the fact. I don’t think any logical person would downplay LeBrons bubble ring if he proceeded to get another ring right after, but then again that’s I’m speaking on a logical person so idk…
@@courtneyvaldez7903which is wild to bitch about tbh because the Clippers only time healthy they shit the bed in the bubble. Arguably benefited them more than anyone
It may have to do with people also just not being fond of that time in history. A lot of people were scared and depressed so those negative feelings associated with the year could tarnish the championship for reasons having nothing to do with it. Subconsciously.
All im saying is that 3 years later the same teams that went to the conference finals were back so maybe the bubble was legit. Also people seem to forget that lakers where cooking this season before the shut down and Bron put a stamp on it when he beat the Clippers and Bucks
Outside of the Lakers who else has said that the bubbleship was the most difficult? Clippers and Bucks didn't want to be there as well as the majority of players. I didn't like it being brought back.
I agree that the bubble probably has more weight to it, and I would have rather won that title, just because they actually had a full-season. Although, you could argue that players may have been more motivated in MLB because they weren’t as confined to one area as much as NBA players were
I admire his CANDOR, by mentioning Steph in the "what if convo in the bubble" just proves that Steph to him is a THREAT to his BOY(LBJ23) and Steph is Living Rent Free in his HEAD. 😂😂😂
The reason what Rich Paul is saying is true is because the Warriors own an era….they didn’t win in particular years, they won nearly every year leading up to the bubble SO. 2020 would just be thrown into the basket with the rest of their wins. Rich Paul is absolutely correct.
The Miami heat were ROLLING that year BEFORE THE BUBBLE… Jimmy was playing great, Bam became a surprising all star, we had Dragic who was still underrated and really good and we had two surprising top 5 rookies (Herro and Nunn) we were HOOPIN and yes I predicted the Heat and Lakers in the finals BEFORE the season stopped… we were a sleeper team that year just like we were this year. Nobody thought we were making the finals this year and our team was WAY WORST. Equivalent to the Cavs is hilarious
I remember hearing players yell and cuss like crazy the first couple of games that I watched. Afterwards they either said something to them or they turned the volume down lol
@ItsGamingFancy yep lol I forgot til u said it but I heard some hard language for sure haha. Lakers won the thing while my wife and I were getting married, I remember watching it with her from the hot tub in our room lol, what a crazy year 😅
You are right the only reason people still talk about it is because it was Lebron that won. But it comes with the territory of being a top 5 player of all time and one that was deemed the next MJ. I do think if anyone other than Lebron won it or Steph/Khawi/Durant it would be thought of even less amongst the common fans.
People forget how many storylines the bubble had in a condensed period of time TJ Warren arc The owner of Big face coffee playoff run Luka's stretch vs Clippers Mitchell vs Murray Thybulle vlogs Westbrook arguing with Rondo's brother House sneaking women and getting expelled And many more that we will never get to experience in normal circumstances
I remember predicting conference finals Bos-Mia and LAL-Lac, but having Clippers and Boston in Finals. We all know how that ended. MIA beating Bucks wasn't surprise for me, but Denver beating Clippers was.
@@HighlightReelFactory I comprehended a 10 minute cope video (45 seconds over for the extra revenue) that has nothing to do with actual basketball or anything but the delusions in the head of someone who has never touched a basketball in their life, talking on things he believes he knows. This is the same type of video Avro Arrow fans would make on why the arrow shouldn't of been canceled, despite being made obsolete by ICBMs and outdone by interceptors like the F-4 Phantom. Just a heap of cope.
@TheDAWinz Bro you talking about the arrow. You're in too deep. To say he didn't make points is wild. You can disagree with the points but to say he didn't say anything shows your lack of comprehension. To say nothing means to make no points, which is essentially what you're saying.
Bro the bubble also reminds me of the year the warriors fell off. Idk if it’s just me but the year curry n klay we’re out it kinda felt off. It didn’t feel normal that they were out. It kind of gave us a glimpse of how the league will be whenever curry, klay, n draymond retire. Who’s gonna take over now?
No we can’t. All the nba teams took a huge break but the Lakers who shrewdly used that time and stayed practicing and never missed a beat. So the season didmt end as it should have, but the Lakers very smart
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The year after the bubble year should be viewed as the more “flawed or bubble” year because it was one of the shortest off seasons in sports history which practically gasses every team who went deep into the bubble into the next season
Not to mention everyone was hurt
I see your point but then all the lockout seasons need to have an asterisk on them as well
@@itachiuchiha1468 an lock out isn’t as bad as shorten season + Jalen brown, Kyrie, Harden,Trae young all being hurt in the East and Bron , AD, Kawhi, Murray and MPJ all being hurt in the west.
Doesn't this even out because they had an unprecedented break before the bubble?
@@latima123ify most teams has their stars healthy when bubble started
What people don’t realize is that there could’ve been no pandemic basketball to begin with.
That’s the reason I don’t really get people who try to de-value the bubble, we could’ve missed out on basketball altogether during those times. The league did the best they could under the circumstances, and it was a pretty good job too.
Well u realize LeBron said he didmt want to basketball without fans in the seats but when the season almost got called, after usimg that time to practice wih his teammates every single day (only team that did). Then when they said they may cancel the season LeBron pulled a 180 and said he wanted it to play for the fans at home lol
@@Shawn-Leider you would understand why he said that in the first place right? During that time, basketball was suspended because of the pandemic. Kudos to the NBA for at least putting an effort to continue the season despite it being on the bubble. We would rather have something to cheer for rather than voiding the season, meaning all of the 19-20 season would be meaningless if that happened.
@@Shawn-Leider gotta love bs conspiracies lol
As a person that watched none of it, I'm fine with it not existing.
Just like empty arena WWE.
@@darrengordon-hill why say it is fine when you didn't watch it in the first place? Lol
I agree that this title is especially weird, but I think that the Nuggets back to back 3-1 comebacks are definitely valid. I only disagree with how it's discussed since it's not the bubble that made a healthy Kawhi and Paul George choke three consecutive games, the Nuggets deserve all of the credit for that.
ok but a game 7 on the road in a regular environment has to be put into the equation as well bru
@@babiahsnipppsfor what? Neither team had a home or away game the entire series there’s no excuses to be made
As a nuggets fan, if the games were in arenas with fans, I don’t think we go down 3-1 vs Utah, I think it woulda been 2-2 and we eventually win but the clippers… I remember we were a bad road team for a few seasons back then, doubt nuggets woulda been able to win a game 5 and 7 at staples
@@DenverIn4all this home and away rubbish is mental bullshit......
@@babiahsnipppsYou can have that, we’ll have this: Clippers didnt need to play in Denver. Altitude is something people always come up with as an excuse when playing against Colorado-based teams. Now that the playing field is equal and they still beat some ass, of course people come up with something else to give an excuse
The bubble is where the nuggets showed the world that they were ready for a ring. Injuries delayed that.
Exactly! Dom was just salty his celtics lost to Miami twice in the same round inside and outside the bubble. Denver was legit since 2020 and truly believes they would beat the same team even back in 2020 with a regular playoff setting.
@@nicksamp515 I don’t think they would have gone down 3-1 to Utah if they played in Denver. Miami has been the best team in the east the last 4 szn. But I agree if it was Denver Vs Miami in 2020 it wouldn’t have felt as special like this past ring. Winning in Denver was special.
@Slimeszn23 and they added AG, but they showed they had the foundation for championship window. That’s the overall point
@@davidblack1639this past season they faced all play in teams 😭😭
@@Newportnews98 Suns were not a play in team
I dont really think to myself that asterisks in the way people talk about them exist. Every single championship in nba history was affected by injury, lockouts or some major factor that could've altered how the finals played out. The bubble to me was as weird as it sounds one of my favorite forms of basketball to watch because it was just hooping at the highest level and it got so many of my favorite players paid because of how they hooped. It extended the careers of many nba players and it was in a sense a blessing to players who suffered injuries like Steph, KD, and Kyrie. I could've only imagined what KD Curry and Kyrie wouldve done in the bubble, probably have some 50 bombs in the playoffs, but from the way I see it, if all teams are on an equal playing field, it should simply come down to the better team winning. The bubble to me also put into perspective just how damn good nba players are. Without any fans or any external distractions just hooping i saw what happens when literally hooping was these players lives for three months. I do get that its the furthest from healthy for the mental and i understand why pg said it was hard for him to play but just the level of basketball was so high.
Facts I agree
@@cell2raw604imo anyone who actually played sports would respect this opinion unless they are biased
If the playing field is leveled and fair I'm in the same situation as you are
The winner is simply the better one of us 2 opponents
That's the essence of sports
@@tpsam exactly they’re just making a bunch of excuses bc bron won, anyone with a brain to think logically knows that’s at some point ppl need to stop acting ignorant
Bro those bubble games were hands down THE BEST hoop I’ve watched live
Bwst comment hands down the best team won no extra politics or conditions just straight hoops
8:25 Arguing that the Nuggets somehow had an advantage being in the Bubble instead of their actual home court to explain them coming back down 3-1 twice doesn't make any sense to me. They're the ones who lost out of having a beneficial home court advantage in my opinion. The numbers back this up.
Actually I am not sure what he was aiming at with that take.
@@stevenmark4407they would have to play on the road twice in the clippers series to win 2 of those final 3 games that’s the argument here.
@@AG30but would they have been down 3-1 in the first place vs the jazz probably not and they would been more well rested allowing for them to still possibly when the series these are just hypotheticals tho
@@rex6830ok but thats a completely different argument, this one is about them coming back down 3-1 twice in a row
@@AG30but If they got to play two games in Denver would they even be down 3-1 in the first place?
The bubble was awesome, Dom2k makes excellent points about the lack of crowd atmosphere but it was amazing to watch well rested athletes, with no travel time play at the highest levels. If you actually watched the games you know
The bubble counts. All that matters 💍🏆
Even before the Lakers made the finals that year, people were trying real hard to say they wouldn't even make it
Portland Trailblazers: Greatest 8th seed of all time
Houston Rockets: NBA 2K 5-out offense with PJ Tucker at center.
Denver Nuggets: Comeback kids possibly pulling a 3rd straight 3-1 comeback.
The Trailblazers factually arent the greatest 8th seed, by a list.
The Rockets had zero centers vs a squad that had 3 near 7 footers and a 6'9 dude that weighs as much as a center.
The Nuggets were okay, but had horrible defense. Literally why they got players like KCP, Brown and Gordon and with Jokic becoming actually one of the better big man defenders they won a chip quite soon after.
I'm a Lakers fan but lets not act like anybody that year was stopping a healthy Lebron and AD.
Even Kawhi and George was not comparable and would mostly be an equal match bc Kawhi is the best playoff performer when healthy.
But honestly what time was better than the Lakers? Next to some dumb haters, everybody knew the Lakers unless something went wrong would win.
ESPECIALLY without home advantage etc.
So true I knew once the lakers reached the finals they were gonna find some way to discredit them
@Larsoboy123 Yeah, they weren't and yet for some reason, Paul Pierce's stupid ass went for this narrative.
No way you calling that Portland team the greatest 8th seed ever and we all knew the rockets would lose. The narrative all season was lakers vs clippers in wcf so idk who was discounting them
@@Herosenninbut the narrative during those times were exactly what the initial post had been circling before the Lakers faced off against those teams. chuck even called for a sweep twice when portland and houston won game 1.
I never understood this narrative.
We're talking about a season where players had plenty of time to rest and then get back to game speed. We didn't have any superteams, just superstar duos. The teams were healthy and rested, home court advantage wasn't a thing so it just came down to getting the W.
I think all the hate about this ring is only happening because LeBron and the Lakers won it. If ANY other team had won, the narratives and storylines would be very different.
In my opinion, this is on paper the most balanced playoffs we have ever witnessed and the best team won. No major injuries, no fatigue, no home court advantages or distractions, just pure basketball.
No home court advantage when the advantage is what makes the playoff great in the first place takes away from the competition
@@AG30 Lakers had the best record in the league that year so they actually lost their advantage adding to the difficulty
Right. It was pure basketball. No distractions. This whole video is a reach
There was a f*cking pandemic going on!! The bubble was nothing but a money grab that favored the Lakers because Kobe died. There was a lot going on that year so who in the right mind could play basketball for real with all that was going. There were also players that even said they were going through depression.
@@youngzeus87
WTF is "pure basketball"???
😂
I called the Heat going to the finals in 2020. People thought I was crazy. I told them the bench was as good as the starting line up and teams didn't know what to do with them. I saw how Jimmy B took practices and improving seriously and how it trickled down the line up. No other team took basketball as seriously as they did.
I mean the Bucks sweeping the Heat the next year doesn't help the argument.
fr Dragic was their leading scorer the whole playoffs. Then he and Nunn get hurt and it falls apart.
That slo-mo LeBron layup to start this video was beautiful 🥹
it really was
The glazing is incredible
@@wildtacocat 🤤
No it was not get off his damn nuts dude.
Lol @ the dudes saying it’s not a beautiful basketball play. Are you sure you like basketball?
Danny Green, who won multiple championships with Spurs and Raptors, said that the bubble championship was the hardest one by far.
The idea that it's the hardest makes no sense because it's a variable applied to everyone. It's like saying the 3pt line being shortened made it harder or easier. For some teams yea, which is the point because it's different from what we think of as a normal ring. We can't tell how much this sudden, single year variable, helps or hurts the landscape of the league.
Depends on how you see it. The bubble was literally hoops without BS and imo the most disciplined, focused and determined teams succeeded. The Heat are all about basketball, LeBron saw a chance at a ring that year and went crazy to get it, meanwhile other teams were getting distraction after distraction and they never had a chance no matter how talented they were.
If you then listened to the reasons he gave, it was obvious he's just talking and it's just how he personally mentally felt. Not at all an objective statement with solid logical reasons.
@@milkboy2228The three point line being shortened made 3pt shooting easier league wide, this is not a good example of what you are trying to say
@@Biggiifulu sound dumb his perspective is all that matters yours dont matter you aint playing only ppl that can diagnose the bubble is the players who are u to tell a nba player otherwise 😂😂😂😂😂😂 yall be crazy om da internet wit no sense
That was some of the best basketball I’ve seen played. No distractions just hoop
Everyone played in the same conditions, it’s not the most valuable ring but the Lakers were one of the best teams in the league that season and carried it into the bubble. Would’ve been the same result regardless of where they played.
they won it, but didnt earn it. they just pasted superstars and/or hall of fame veterans together
@@vulcanraven9701 kinda other teams fault for shunning dwight howard (his contract wasnt guaranteed) and AD trade was a fair trade, its other teams fault that they didnt go after him
Couldn't win with 3s until Golden State did it. Denver could've won outside down 3-1.
It can't happen, until it inevitably does.
Dom didn’t really go into why there was always going to be an asterisk. He didn’t really present a list of reasons. He mentioned lack of playoff atmosphere and extended break.
This discussion is also unique to the NBA. The NHL also had a similar playoff situation and there is not a fraction of the narrative around the Tampa Bay Lightning stanley cup compared to the Lakers Larry Obrien
I loved the bubble man. Still do plus im nostalgic now
Only haters think the bubble ring isnt a valid championship
its not really valid but it really doesnt put the pressure of having a home crowd on your back. Theres a reason why alot of unknown players popped off when there aint 20k+ people watching and cheering your every step. It would be silly to not count it as a championship bcuz it was pure basketball but the nerves and the pressure was really there.
@@AstelchLakers would have had home court advantage every series if anything they lost more of an edge from the bubble
@@Astelch make up your mind
@@PDunlo yeah and dom2k picking the clippers is hilarious
@@PDunlo yes lakers would have an advantage but doesnt change that 20k people watching you regardless of them cheering for you would create alot of nerves/pressure.
The only problem with this argument is despite ppls opinions at the time the nuggets and heat actually were just that good as we now know. It seems like it’s like oh the nuggets randomly made the wcf then had to get better before they could go on another real run, but ppl forget that this playoffs has been the first playoffs Jamal Murray actually played in since the bubble
facts. Curry wouldve been deep fried for winning a bubble ring
all bron fans care so wym. yall niggas bring him up 24/7@@PolandSOulx
@@PolandSOulx. And had Curry won the chip and a finals mvp in the bubble, plenty of people would call it a Mickey Mouse ring still and a Mickey Mouse trophy for his FMVP. The bubble was always gonna have an asterisk for people unfortunately.
@@PolandSOulxyou sound like a Steph hater with that fmvp argument but regardless we know he has 2-3 fmvps that the media didn’t wanna give him especially his first finals
@@PolandSOulx I’m not even talking about that tho lmao nor do I even ride that notion. You oughta reread what I said cuz it seems my point just flew over you lol.
I’ve seen ppl criticize Curry for only having won just 1 FMVP at this point. You yourself just also put an asterisk on Curry’s FMVP.
@@AG30 2-3 fmvps. Lol keep dreamin. KD was the clear cut best player in Gs during their b2b. Curry was their best in 2015, but if iggy didn't stop Lebron from avg 40-45pts during that time, curry wouldn't have that ring tho that's why they gave it to iggy for holdin down LeBron to just 35ppg for them to win in 6 with LeBron having delly as his 2nd best teammate. LOL
It's the best tournament the NBA will ever have. It happened in a vacuum. The talent was naked in its display and unadulterated by chants in the stands. No home or away advantage... As an Australian NBA fan I will always treasure it.
No
Nah, It was missing the Warriors and Nets best players
I just refuse to agree that an NBA competition were everyone was cut off from any outside contact in the world. And not allowed to leave UNLESS they lost. Where multiple staff, and players didn't attend. Inside a hotel basketball gym is just a legitimate ring in comparison to every other one.
All NBA championships have an asterisk in my book, so all players are ringless to me.
Bunch of frauds with Mickey Mouse "world" championships.
Appreciate the honesty. Nobody that likes basketball couldn't see the nuggets coming. Again, appreciate the honesty.
If bron would’ve lost, he would’ve been the first to say it was illegitimate
not to mention that the heat weren't healthy, heat's 2nd and 3rd best players multiple missed games
people really try to act like the basketball played in the bubble wasnt real solely because lebron won it 😭 these haters bro
Basketball isn't a real sport like football or boxing, so all basketball championships have asterisks.
what does “real sport” mean 💀
@@ikea1890 Nice try, LeMickey. I can tell you're using a burner account.
It’s not Bron that I see people complain bout. Most of the reasons I see is cuz the whole league didn’t play, ppl called Miami going to the finals a fluke, and how they try to say it’s one of the hardest to ever win.
I don’t think people should discount 2020 though when Miami was able to make it to the finals again.
@@PolandSOulx Let's see LeMickey fight Tyson Fury for a real ring, not those Disney rings.
I genuinely think if any team aside from Lebron’s won in the bubble, nobody would talk shit about it at all, or if they did it would be way fewer people.
I also think that the Bucks would’ve come back down 3-0 against the Heat is Giannis hadn’t gotten hurt.
Pretty much.
I don’t know about would’ve, but they definitely could’ve.
I don't wanna be that guy, but the thumbnail had me thinking "Curry would shoot 60% without fans lmao". If the people were right about the pressure getting to him, imagine how he'd be with most of the pressure taken off.
Absolutely. If Curry had won in the bubble. Folks would talk crap on him just as much. After they just won 2 with KD, they discount 2015 cause Kyrie got injured.. if he won this 'discounted' chip, man they would talk so much stuff about him, like they still do now, even tho he earned his chips, if you actually look at it, especially the last one. We know what Rich Paul is doing. I would only say the bubble was hard, only in the fact, that you basically playing on a neutral court, so there was no crowd noise to effect anything.
Agree that Curry would've had the same narrative, just like LeBron. If Rich Paul compared Kawhi, who were the most hyped up star that time, plus a direct competitor to LeBron that same bubble, none of this "bubble argument" could've surfaced.
@@PolandSOulxhe’s gonna win his second finals mvp next year and he should have 3 right now if it’s not for lebron being a coward and having influence on the media and putting narratives to stop steph from getting those because he’s sooo threaten by steph passing him and being the second greatest off all time which he will be. Lebron beat him in 2021 when klay was injured dont u guys use kyrie n Kevin love injury so we gotta use the same for the play in game and last year it’s wasn’t lebron vs steph it was steph vs ad and lebron and it’s not the same because lebron wasn’t even the best player on the team it’s Ad so 2 superstars vs 1 😂😂😂 just like u cried when kd was on the team
@@joshbonds0073😂😂😂😂😂 u typed allat bs fr
@@joshbonds0073even if they won 2016, draymond was going to be FMVP 😭😭😭😭😭🫵😭😭😭😭😭
Curry time over. That team not winning shit and I'm Cp3's biggest fan. It's over for them niggas. Curry always 2nd to Magic. So live with it and move on.
I believe that the exclusions of certain players (through testing or worried about transmission) made this title a non-starter for me no matter who won it.
100% facts
yep
"The cavs n kings finals" sounds like a great series imo 😂 definitely a few years premature tho
It's just a cope that all championships have a real asterisk to them. Just because something always happens doesn't mean it affects the validity. The bubble is not an asterisk. Several teams getting injured out of the playoffs is a real asterisk. Or a star player in the opposing team.
#GuruBasketballKieroSays i always believed that although no fans, the main hate for the Bubble Championship is because LeBron and the Lakers won it.
They still gave us the trophy.
We still hung up a banner in STAPLES Center
The hate comes from people feeling the lakers bought their roster, and hence the championship. Similar to how people felt about the heat, but major pllayers like KD Kyrie or Curry were injured in 2020 playoffs
@@vulcanraven9701 The Clippers didn’t draft any of those guys 😂. It’s definitely Lakers and Lebron hate. To be honest it was anyone but them for the Haters. When they won it the haters said it didn’t count. Ain’t no way people would say it don’t count had the Lakers lost to the Clippers. That would be we were right about the Lakers moment for sure for the media and fans that picked the Clippers to beat them.
To say the bubble championship doesn’t count is disingenuous yes. The the flip argument of that, that the bubble championship is the hardest championship of all time is hall of fame dickriding we all know that’s not true at all
The heat, after the bubble were able to go the conference finals and to the nba championship in consecutive years. When the nuggets finally got healthy they instantly won. If anything seeing these 2 teams succeed post-bubble should add more legitimacy to the 2020 championship.
Actually the heat got swept in 2021
@@VictorVonson In 2022, they went to game 7 against the Celtics in the conference finals. In 2023, they went to the NBA finals, I said consecutive years not "consecutive years right after the bubble".
the heat were missing players for several games in 2020 finals
Idc what nobody says Anthony Davis wouldn’t have made it through that season without that break in between
That was just the rest he needed to power through playoffs
I feel like way too much basketball discourse in national media is centred around the goat debate and it’s exhausting. It’s creators like Dom who talk about everything from mini docs on moments in history, player stories and regular season bardershop talk that keep the nba and its history interesting. Respect.
I like that Dom described it as a setup. Screwed if you do, screwed if you don't. Unwarranted criticism for the circumstances if you win, criticism if you lose. What are you supposed to do, though? Lose? It sucks but the bubble did not disappoint those who actually watched it.
LeBron gets more shit for the 2020 title than kawhi gets for blowing the 3-1 lead.
Let’s face it they only brought basketball back to give the lakers the title. If the lakers were last place when play stopped, returning wouldn’t of been a topic they would have scrapped the season.
Hundred percent
Lakers lost their homecourt advantage so whoever discredits his bubble title is irrelevant. And I know that 3 years ago, Miami and Denver wasn't all that hyped up, but isn't this year's finals meeting also proves that they're a legit title contenders? Cause if we're not hearing anything about the 99 spurs, that is because they've proven they're legit, so it should also mean that those teams are legit since they proved after 2 seasons that they can compete for a title. The only reason they didn't in 2021 is because they were unhealthy. Sick of having the Lakers, Denver, Miami getting disrespected for the bubble since the most hated baller in history won that competition.
The nuggets in 2020 and heat in 2020 were not the same teams especially the heat 🧢🧢
the Nets superteam would likely have won if they were healthy tho
I enjoyed the bubble because we got to see the best play without distractions
BLM noises activated
NBA equivalent of “truth is, the game was rigged from the start”
That was such a crazy time for basketball. That finals run the heat had was when I think we realized they were legitimate
I’m ngl to you Dom, in 2020, I didn’t know what he would become, but I knew he was one of the best passing bigs ever. Me and my friend had a bet he’d never average over 24 PPG or win MVP! Glad I chose joke
The bubble was some of the best basketball we'd seen in years, anyone who disagrees is lying. If Steph won they'd praise him for it, if the nuggets went on to comeback from 3-1 against the Lakers, go to the finals, and closeout the playoffs with a ring it'd be considered the greatest championship ever. The Lakers were WELL on pace to win before the pandemic hit, the fact that they went on to win was an expected outcome for many people.
The Heat, Nuggets, Lakers, and Celtics were all the same teams that made the conference finals in 2020, those same 3 team made the conference finals 3 years later. Even if you want to say those teams are different, is it just a coincidence? Who's to say that wouldn't have happened in a normal playoff setting? Playoff atmosphere isn't what NBA fans make it out to be, playoffs atmosphere has to do with the pressure and stress of win a championship, not what John in row 2 wrote on his homemade sign. That fact that Denver did what they did isn't a product of the bubble, its a product of other teams not being ready for the moment. Real competitors compete regardless of the circumstances, which is why some players didn't care about winning in the bubble, because they're not real competitors.
Also speaking of Miami, 15 games into the season i had them as my pick to come out of the East, that held up all year, and nd guess who won the East, Miami. Is that just a coincidence? Did I just make a lucky guess? Saying those things wouldn't have happened in a "normal" playoff setting is ridiculous, and you can't prove with any fact based evidence to show it wouldn't have. You said yourself that 3-1 combacks have only happened 13 times in NBA history, which only proves how rare it is to do so, the fact that it happened in the bubble means nothing. In all of NBA history, only 1 team has ever done so in the finals, doesn't that mean it will never happen again? Maybe, its statistically unlikely, but its not impossible, and there's no basis to state that it can't. The same way there's no basis to suggest 2 3-1 combacks in the same playoffs wouldn't have happened outside of the bubble.
You as well as everyone knows why 2020 gets as much hate as it does, and its not because of the bubble, it's because of the outcome.
What are you talking about? 😂😂😂 lebron has the most influence and control in the media look how many people he has working in the media Richard Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins, Shannon sharpe, nick wright, Dave McMahon, Brian windhorst that’s why steph dosent have 3 finals mvp right now because lebron got his people to change the narratives because he’s soo threatened by steph. That’s why the media never tries to put steph best player in the world even right after he won in 2022 even tho they literally put everyone beat when they win a champion 😂😂😂 we know whose behind all that it’s Lebron and Klutch so yes they would have discredit steph waaay worst. Steph and Lebron have the most and craziest fans yes but who has people for them working in the media and not even just his friends but people that are in klutch too 😂😂😂😂😂 he’s a coward he also was calling the refs after every game vs warriors last year to be saying look their fouling and we’re not getting enough fouls. Like I don’t think you know how scared he is of steph and that’s why rich Paul brought stephs name up because they only think about steph and Jordan his only threats. This is why he wants kyrie or trae young he wants another super team so he can try to get a 5th ring before steph does but cheaters never win that’s why steph is gonna get 2 more rings and finals mvp and be the second greatest of all time
@@joshbonds0073 you're just making up narratives in your head, LeBron doesn't control the media, and half of the people you named aren't within his circle. You literally named Perkins, who has admitted to wanting LeBron to get hurt during a playoff series against him.
The bubble final 4 have legitimately proven they have been the best since 2020 barring injuries. If anything, the 2021 season is the question mark. Bucks, Hawks and Clippers, Suns being the final 4 with the shortest off season ever is highly questionable
Ayyyyyy new Dom videooooo
A chip is a CHIP. Lakers will forever be the champs of that year.
9:00 this is actually a perfect example because people still count that ring. nobody discredits it because its dumb to discredit championships.
People either view it as the most flawed ever because it was the most different. Or they’re gonna view it as the hardest because it was the most different.
I've said that since day one: whoever won the bubble was gonna have an asterisk next to their banner
The Disney ring is the weakest of all time. Only Fakers and LeFlop homer would disagree.
Funny he acting like Jimmy didn’t beat his Celtics to get to the finals or Denver didn’t come back from two 3-1 deficits
every team played in the same conditions I DONT WANNA HEAR SHIT
You can say the bubble was harder or easier all you want, but having no fans make it different than every championship ever. Still counts but different ….
I remember me throwing my crazy idea that the NBA at the time should I have been a lockdown Battle Royale and the winner would have been guaranteed an easier schedule once basketball was back to normal. As per usual I was ridiculed for this idea. Lol
Maybe it’s just me but I don’t think people would’ve downplayed curry is he won the bubble ring as much as they downplay lebron because curry actually got a ring after the bubble, if bron got a ring after the bubble people wouldn’t make it seem like it was easy or a fluke
Everything Curry does is downplayed-no way a “bubble ring” wouldn’t be downplayed MORE than any of his other non-bubble accomplishments.
@@courtneyvaldez7903 but most people downplaying Brons bubble ring because he hasn’t won’t a won since then, so by that logic, they wouldn’t downplay curry as much because he actually got a ring after the bubble ring
@@AudaciousGaming__people downplay the bubble chip because of the break that gave Lebron and AD time to rest, and the unique circumstances of “the bubble”, not because he hasn’t won since. It was being criticized the day it happened. Thinking Curry wouldn’t get shat on for the same chip is absurd. Everything he’s done is hated on by significant swaths of the basketball world.
@@courtneyvaldez7903 I mean there’s huge amount that saying that if curry gets another ring he’s in the goat convo, but at the same time ur saying they are downplaying everything he does, so maybe we ju!st talking about two different groups of people. I get what ur saying but your talking about different group of people, I’m speaking on the people who have a mutual perspective on both of the players rather than the Curry’s haters or Lebrons haters. People tend to downplay shit if you can’t replicate it multiple or at least one time after the fact. I don’t think any logical person would downplay LeBrons bubble ring if he proceeded to get another ring right after, but then again that’s I’m speaking on a logical person so idk…
@@courtneyvaldez7903which is wild to bitch about tbh because the Clippers only time healthy they shit the bed in the bubble. Arguably benefited them more than anyone
Laughed out of Disney lol
The problem is it was a finals that should never of happened
nigga what are you even talking about?? The Lakers or Heat shouldn’t have been a Finals or the Season should’ve just been canceled?
It may have to do with people also just not being fond of that time in history. A lot of people were scared and depressed so those negative feelings associated with the year could tarnish the championship for reasons having nothing to do with it. Subconsciously.
It was more competitive like them just in a gym playing their hearts out. It wasnt "easier".
it had garbo teams
All im saying is that 3 years later the same teams that went to the conference finals were back so maybe the bubble was legit. Also people seem to forget that lakers where cooking this season before the shut down and Bron put a stamp on it when he beat the Clippers and Bucks
This got tanked in the algorithm,didn’t even see this got posted
Outside of the Lakers who else has said that the bubbleship was the most difficult? Clippers and Bucks didn't want to be there as well as the majority of players. I didn't like it being brought back.
Remember when TJ Warren put up Jordan numbers in the bubble for like a week?
Pepperidge farms remembers
Fucking hell, this is just 10 minutes 45 seconds of straight fucking FACTS, one of your best
(remove the ad time actually; 10 minutes)
I really like your content,keep it up
rings are rings if u keep winning the noise will die down.
The bubble chip is more legitimate than the 2020 World Series title
I agree that the bubble probably has more weight to it, and I would have rather won that title, just because they actually had a full-season. Although, you could argue that players may have been more motivated in MLB because they weren’t as confined to one area as much as NBA players were
It’s crazy because every actual NBA player is saying that was the hardest ring lmao
I admire his CANDOR, by mentioning Steph in the "what if convo in the bubble" just proves that Steph to him is a THREAT to his BOY(LBJ23) and Steph is Living Rent Free in his HEAD. 😂😂😂
2k needs to add the bubble as a option to play on
The reason what Rich Paul is saying is true is because the Warriors own an era….they didn’t win in particular years, they won nearly every year leading up to the bubble SO. 2020 would just be thrown into the basket with the rest of their wins. Rich Paul is absolutely correct.
Cavs shade wont be tolerated
The Miami heat were ROLLING that year BEFORE THE BUBBLE… Jimmy was playing great, Bam became a surprising all star, we had Dragic who was still underrated and really good and we had two surprising top 5 rookies (Herro and Nunn) we were HOOPIN and yes I predicted the Heat and Lakers in the finals BEFORE the season stopped… we were a sleeper team that year just like we were this year. Nobody thought we were making the finals this year and our team was WAY WORST. Equivalent to the Cavs is hilarious
He trying to get a raise 🤣🤣🤣 with this statement
The empty arena woulda felt weird, just hearing EVERYTHING
I remember hearing players yell and cuss like crazy the first couple of games that I watched. Afterwards they either said something to them or they turned the volume down lol
@ItsGamingFancy yep lol I forgot til u said it but I heard some hard language for sure haha. Lakers won the thing while my wife and I were getting married, I remember watching it with her from the hot tub in our room lol, what a crazy year 😅
This guy dom loves being right 😭😭
Great video
You are right the only reason people still talk about it is because it was Lebron that won. But it comes with the territory of being a top 5 player of all time and one that was deemed the next MJ. I do think if anyone other than Lebron won it or Steph/Khawi/Durant it would be thought of even less amongst the common fans.
People forget how many storylines the bubble had in a condensed period of time
TJ Warren arc
The owner of Big face coffee playoff run
Luka's stretch vs Clippers
Mitchell vs Murray
Thybulle vlogs
Westbrook arguing with Rondo's brother
House sneaking women and getting expelled
And many more that we will never get to experience in normal circumstances
If anything, I think the Babu actually proved how overrated the Lakers really were because they haven’t been shit since that season that says a lot
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I woulda had an asterisk next to whoever woulda won in the bubble. Just wasn’t the same
I’m just pissed I had to wait even longer to watch my warriors again
Nice vid dom
Bubble was true basketball in highest form
It was like a professional AAU game😂😂💀
Saying the bubble doesn’t count is a instant give away that you’re not an objective fan and have clear bias
Yawn Bron stan
Raptors back to back with Kawhi no questions asked
I remember predicting conference finals Bos-Mia and LAL-Lac, but having Clippers and Boston in Finals. We all know how that ended.
MIA beating Bucks wasn't surprise for me, but Denver beating Clippers was.
You said a whole lot of words without actually saying anything, pretty impressive. I guess that's how you get big as a "NBA youtuber."
Your lack of comprehension is showing
@@HighlightReelFactory I comprehended a 10 minute cope video (45 seconds over for the extra revenue) that has nothing to do with actual basketball or anything but the delusions in the head of someone who has never touched a basketball in their life, talking on things he believes he knows. This is the same type of video Avro Arrow fans would make on why the arrow shouldn't of been canceled, despite being made obsolete by ICBMs and outdone by interceptors like the F-4 Phantom. Just a heap of cope.
@TheDAWinz Bro you talking about the arrow. You're in too deep. To say he didn't make points is wild. You can disagree with the points but to say he didn't say anything shows your lack of comprehension. To say nothing means to make no points, which is essentially what you're saying.
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You definitely were in regular classes 😂
Was it an nba title? Yes. Will it be the forever most discredited, twist yourself into a pretzel to defend legitimate nba title? Yes.
Bro the bubble also reminds me of the year the warriors fell off. Idk if it’s just me but the year curry n klay we’re out it kinda felt off. It didn’t feel normal that they were out. It kind of gave us a glimpse of how the league will be whenever curry, klay, n draymond retire. Who’s gonna take over now?
No we can’t. All the nba teams took a huge break but the Lakers who shrewdly used that time and stayed practicing and never missed a beat. So the season didmt end as it should have, but the Lakers very smart
I TOLD EVERYBODY ABOUT DAME TO THE BUCKS TWO YEARS AGO
LeBron and AD just got LeSwept. Not sure how they could have been any better before.
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Bro it’s been almost 5 years 😂