Examining The Darkness Games (And Comics)
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- The Darkness series is one of the better, memorable, and overlooked series to emerge during the seventh generation.
The first Darkness is a fantastic game. A game that sticks with you long after the credits roll.
The Darkness 2, while a good game, it's very much a "sale game". One you'd buy on a steam sale, and have a few good hours with. The Darkness 2 is enjoyable, but nothing special. A sequel that's far more conventional and done by a different studio. It doesn't help that The Darkness 2 ends with a huge cliffhanger that remains unresolved as of writing.
In this video, we'll dig into both titles of The Darkness series, where they accel, and where they falter. As well, since The Darkness is based on a comic series, we'll also take a gander at The Darkness comics.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Prelude
00:51 - The Darkness (Intro)
06:30 - Gameplay of The Darkness
17:47 - Going Through The Darkness (Spoilers)
33:27 - The Darkness Comics
40:11 - The Darkness II
42:41 - Presentation of The Darkness II
43:13 - Gameplay of The Darkness II
48:19 - Going Through The Darkness II (Spoilers)
01:05:04 - In Conclusion & The Future of The Darkness
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You forget to say that you can play The darkness 1 and 2 in 4k on Xbox one/series with backcompatibility games
I wish all games had a view model as near perfect as the second game has.. and I love machine breezes view models usually, something they've gotten better at over the years and would do significantly better with in the second riddick game, before taking a step back with Wolfenstein, and then fixing all of that with the second Wolfenstein.. but whatever rare twist of fate led to the devs of the second darkness just nailing it on almost every single level with the placement, the amount of view model shown, and just having it in a shooting ready position, without having to rely on iron sights for the only shootable position in a first person game..
I'm always so confused at modern developers and why for some reason with pistols the arms retract as if you're either Quatto or you're trying to read the serial number, and then it's always off to the side and then looping through the crosshair instead of to the crosshair.. and usually the rifles are much better, which makes it all the more bizarre, when the pistol shows up.. but the rifles even, where they come up with this weird idea that in order to emulate holding it under slung, it comes out of the side of the screen like in Half-Life 2.. it's just like it is my head in the chest of this guy? Am I Quatto in most first person shooters? And.. sure ironically enough, in the case of cyberpunk the solution is to put the camera in the chest of the character LOL, but.. both retractable arms and the camera in the chest?
Like seriously.. it's it's not that hard.. just put the camera where the head is.. and if you need to cheat a little bit to simulate a neck turn so you don't clip through the body.. put it out a little bit in front but then maneuver the arms accordingly..
For being one of the better examples, but still falling short in bizarre ways, The system shock remake cracked me up where they just let your arms hinge at the elbow into your body.. just like.. come on.. just put them out a little bit.. like even with the the head a little bit in front of the torso, you should be able to see a little bit more than just the wrist, if you can even see that much in a modern game LOL..
And I understand that sometimes the model is bladed, despite that never being a good idea even when it was something you saw in military.. but.. you're also running and jumping and and doing you know things that you can't really do while crap walking LOL.. so why would you even bother you know? Just put the arms out in front, make it look like you're holding the gun is all, or have arms.. or for God's sake.. put the barrel through the crosshair.. not to the crosshair! Like do it to about 100 m and then no one will ever feel the compulsion that they're shooting to the left or the right depending on if you even let hand swapping.. like it's not rocket science really!
How does this happen on such a rare occasion with games like the second darkness.. hell even the first Half-Life had a pretty decent one, but mostly just by comparison to the second one which had a god-awful hand model.. and then.. and then you have games like outer worlds or to a lesser extent, but still stupid, especially with how much effort they made to make it stupid.. cyberpunk.. or Doom 2016 and eternal, which took the extra step to not only make it seem almost impossible to be holding the weapon, while gas lighting you with every cut scene when you have arms all of a sudden.. but also made it a static view model that in a game where you move so much.. LOL could have fooled me because the view model seems completely independent of anything actually going on in the in the world, even when you're shooting it.. like how is this a thing? In 2023? it was getting better when we had full body awareness.. the first riddick game was a great example of taking that seriously..
I swear people took the idea of 16x9 instead of making it a wider screen, and just went full hand into trying to translate the looking 4x3, including keeping the same fov so you just lost more of the screen in the end.. and that was if they didn't just give you a garbage FoV to begin with of something other than 90, because 90 was if you were lucky.. even though it should be about 107 to translate to 16x9.. and it's and it's not like you get to see more if the weapon is off to the side and looking awkward like you're not really shooting forward.. they still make it giant and take up a large amount of the screen real estate, they just like what am I crazy here? Am I like the only human that doesn't have an automatic binocular zoom that if I was holding an object outstretched in front of me it would only view to the wrist?
Oh damn, The Darkness got fixed on Xenia also? I know only RPCS3 was running it flawless, if albeit still locked to just 720p and no anisotropic filtering.
Love these games despite their flaws. Biggest take away was always how realistic they did Jackie & Jennies relationship, kinda ridiculous how it's still the best rendition.
Oh I'm the exact same. I love both titles alot and hope one day we can either get a third game or even a reboot if need be. I just wanna continue on Jackie's stories and figure out what comes next for him. Comics do help a bit but doesn't hit that special feeling the games bring
@@BestCupidI'd rather a continuation because it's an amazing story and I could imagine a The Angelus spin off melee orientated game to be a mirror of The Darkness and his ranged prefferencr. Also female protagonist
@@TheReZisTLustor him getting out of hell some how (yes I understand he killed himself) and killing the angelus to get Jenny back once an for all
@@BestCupidI think having the ability to control the Darkness at your fingertips then releasing the control & being a conduit for the Darkness brings a certain emotional weigh the story just can’t translate through the comics. I don’t even think a movie could bring you the same element.
Would absolutely love a third instalment to this IP
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The scene where you lose Jenny has got to be one of the most human moments in gaming history
Idk but a eldritch being holding you back from shooting through a window doesnt feel human to me 😋
@@TheReZisTLust Not that you silly goose! The pain Jackie goes through, having been forced to watch. It's so bleak and dark but you know that somewhere out there, somebody has felt that way- having lost someone, or something important to them while having no way to stop or prevent it.
They can just grieve and that grief can break some people like it broke Jackie.
Is sad.
Sad is human.
@@JustAnOldStone Is very sad. I have seen a close friend of mine die in front of me. One moment, they're there, the next they're gone and you're alone, dealing with the fucking mess in front of you and the shit in your head.
I'd still give that to the original Last of Us with Joel and his daughter Sarah but this game is still good.
I fucking love Darkness 1+2. The first one is so gritty and disturbing. SUPER MEMORABLE plus i regularly think about the voice actor for the darkness in the first game. The second game is just plain gory FUN. Over the top violence and gore is fun
Darkness II is _made_ by its XP system. Every single combat encounter is an optimization puzzle. I love it so much.
Fun fact they had to use very little effects on the darkness voice by mike patton. Dudes incredible with his voice. Been listening to him in bands since 89.
I love the Darkness 2. Most of the cool Darkness stuff in the first game happens in cut-scenes. I also didn't really care much for its claustrophobic rendition of the city. The structure worked a lot better in Chronicles of Riddick because you were stuck in a prison. So did slowly creeping from one shadow to the next. The Darkness 2 fixed pretty much all of that. You feel like a force of nature the moment you're handed the controls and it only goes up from there.
I regularly listen to many of the bands Mike Patton the voice of the Darkness has fronted. You can too, he is a talent.
The Darkness is one of the few games where a movie would absolutely work. John Carpenter style. The story was both tragic, badass, and everything ww1 was unsettling.
more like Max Payne the Movie
I mean it’s based off a comic
Mike Patton voicing the Darkness is A stroke of genius.
I’ve always imagined they could have made a movie off this franchise kind of in the style of The Crow.
That would be fucking sick
Duuudeee Exactly this man! I've always felt they were very similar as a fan of both The Darkness and The Crow, it'd be awesome seeing this get a movie 🤘
That scene where you sit and watch the movie in her apartment always stayed with me, 15 years later
I’ve always thought Anthony was gonna say the light is love, cause his love for Jackie let him fight the darkness like Jackie’s love for Jenny helps him
The first game is probably the most underrated game of the PS3 / X360 generation. Everything about is done with absolute love for the source material. And that killer soundtrack gives Mick Gordon’s Doom a run for its money.
The first games atmosphere was top notch, id dig a 3rd game with the atmosphere of the first game, but mechanics of the second one.
Yes!!
I don't know, I'd miss the creeping darkness ability.
I kinda want the third game to feel new. But they already jumped the shark with the angelous.
@@metaloverload7374let me tell you, as someone who played the second game before they played the first, I loved the twist of Jenny being the Angelus. I remember seeing that cut scene with my best friend and both of us were like “ARE YOU FCKING SERIOUS RN?! Like thats a good plot twist but damn thats some Peter Parker levels of non-stop emotional trauma”
And I still feel like its a good plot twist……if it was a stand alone story, and not a continuation of established events and lore etc. but after playing the first game and learning more about the comics It just makes no sense. Even the reveal of the Darkness having Jennys soul doesnt make any sense either. Like maybe if Jackie had been tricked by the Darkness into killing Jenny himself or if Jackie accidentally killed her by some freak accident or just something that was directly his fault even though it was unintentional.
THEN I could understand how the Darkness has her soul.
Idk like I said the second games story makes more sense if it was the beginning of the story, the part that establishes the lore/rules of the universe. And it definitely expanded on the lore and I still love it. I think I just got so emotionally invested in the game/story that I want it all to be cohesive and live up to its true potential lol.
@@ThatDudeJerm That completely makes sesne. I love both the comics and the games.
Oooft, I was a big fan of The Darkness comics (and Top Cow's Witchblade) and thought the first game particularly was an absolute gem. I love to see this getting some recognition years later!
so was i, i read the comics right up till artifacts. then i lost interest when jackie recreated the universe.
the games i still like them
The Dig at Linkara's Lightbringer is the best joke I never saw coming. Bravo.
The Darkness 1 is probably one of the most important games to me ever. I hope every day that it gets enough attention for a pc port or even a remaster
I love he gives you those cool guns in the beginning, says keep good care of them. But jackie proceeds to immediately throw them away after his first reload because he doesnt reload, he just picks up new guns everytime he gets ammo.
I remember the night of my 12th birthday, that was the first time i experienced long lasting trauma from a video game. definitely did not expect this game to do me so dirty with that heartbreaking ending where they're sitting on the bench. Great video as always!
It's one of the most unique horror FPS games ever made by Starbreeze Studios. The powers and guns combined really made one heck of a combo, and this game alone got me interested in reading the comics too. Such a shame that the franchise didn't continued further.
It's one of the world's great shames that Starbreeze is only ever remembered for Payday 2
@@IAmLeMonke Still remember when they tried to make a WW2 game...
that flopped so hard no one even remembers it. Wouldn't be surprised if people running the crossover weapons in PD2 forgot why they're in the game.
If Jackie ever goes berserk, you know THE LIGHTBRINGER will come and save the day
Hmmmmm?
I wish I could join the lightbringer’s harem 🥺
"I'm the fucking universe!"
Linkara and his magical blunderpus? I’ll hand that he IS faster than Jackie
Almost 17 years later and the jenny storyline still breaks my heart
The Darkness games carry the vibe of game tie-ins to a movie series from the mid-to-late 00's, back when movies were ashamed to be adapted from comics, and so would put their leads in black leather instead of the actual costumes. After a moderate success in 2007, the producers were a bit less shy about being comic-y with the sequel, after the MCU introduced Cap and Thor. But they bungled it with a sequel setup that never went anywhere because the first sequel didn't make enough money to justify another.
Indeed and I think to remake it and remastered it for new commer to know to the game and the character. And give him the costume like from the comics it would be fun : D
Shame you didn't go more into the collectables in TD2. I personally loved hearing Jimmy speak about real world items mixed into the game's lore. I.E. The Roanoke Axe in the beginning of the game and it implicating The Angelus is actually what wiped the tribe out. Plus, the very last one actually kinda foreshadows the ending involving the Angelus.
One thing to share about The Darkness 2 multiplayer is that it continues the story of the main game a bit. At the end of it you end up freeing Jackie from Hell and plan to stop the Angelus.
It isn't a whole lot but I thought it was something worth sharing.
My absolute favorite games ever but we seriously need a third follow-up! Jackie, please come back!
Oh this is gonna be good. Grew up playing both Darkness games, and was a fan of both. Needs a good replay to see if it holds up.
Second one is really good still
The first one holds up, my guy. Always will.
Second does & Its online is still a nice run
Lol. At very same moment I thought, damn he looks like Adam from YMS. But I didn't expect you to mention him.
I loved these games so much. I was a big fan of Witchblade and The Darkness in comic form, so when the first of these games came out, I was thrilled. So much fun. I always wanted a Witchblade game, but no such luck 😭
Wouldn't give up hope. Bound to happen eventually, especially with the world drifting into 90s nostalgia mode. Her character design was practically made for gaming - or the idiot comic speculators who made up most of the market in the when she was created. Nothing worked better on that crowd than cheesecake.
@richmcgee434 Still waiting for another spawn game or movie. From that If it was successful could definitely see them revisiting this.
It's such a shame we haven't had a Darkness 3 yet, great video as always :)
I like to think the loading screens in 1-2 happen after number 2 with Jackie stuck on the square platform in the darkness recounting the events
I remember playing The Darkness, Jericho, and F.E.A.R during this era. Amazing dark FPS games on the 360
One of my all time favorite games by one of my very favorite creators. Kudos man thanks for giving it some love
I like to think the asylum was Jackie's hell, th fear the darkness is making him loose himself and his mind. While the ww1 hell was more of Anthony's hell
*_"NO! THE HOST WILL_* *NOT* *_DIE!"_*
If they _do_ make a remaster of the first, I'll be so fucking happy
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"Night is your master." My god, that line still gives me chills to this day! I really hope they remaster the games, man, because I love The Darkness! One of my favorites to play when I was a kid
Johnny Powel explaining the relics that is found throughout the game was so funny 😆
Thank you for making this video, Darkness is one of my absolute favorite series, heavily slept on as well. Hope it makes a return!!
All time favourite game, never found a retrospective on it. Thank you, you dont know how much this means.
When you mentioned Mike Patton also being in Portal he's also in Left 4 Dead as well he voiced the common infected, the smoker and the hunter
No kidding?! I’d love to have my likeness immortalised in a video game.
I knew i recognized that snarling
Makes me happy to see people talk about games i love.
Thank you for covering these games they will always be what made me love gaming and I still play the first one regularly
binging boulder punch videos and this gem drops
I remember playing the first game and going "Man this is awesome, I bet the comic is amazing" and when I looked at the cover I saw "Written by Garyh Ennis" and my heart sank.
While I've barely touched the comics, the games were great
Thank you so much for this, can't wait to watch it
great video, one of my youtubers talking about one of my favorite series !
The darkness games are amazing some of the best games ever made its ages ahead of its time we need more the darkness games and witchblades games too.
59:03 This might seem like a silly thing to point out, but I like that you can kinda see the guy's lips and cheeks moving a bit as he does his ventriloquism. Like they didn't have to give it that detail, cause it's pretty subtle, but they did. Much appreciated.
Thanks for covering this, truly a gem of a series that needs to come back. Saying that it never left for me as I replay these games fairly frequently and even if I didn't, those Jenny moments have stuck with me since the first time I saw them. Here's hoping that remaster happens as it will solidify Nightdive as one of, if not the best, developers around. (then again they kinda already earned that with Shadowman)
Oh... my god... I grew up with The Darkness on the ps3 and I've been thinking about it so much lately. I really need to replay it.
I'm still upset that they didn't make another game because I loved the second game to death.
I preferred the comics near the end of the first run and during the 2nd. I don't mind a bit of camp here and there but the early stuff was just constantly all over the place, every woman looked about identical. Similar face, eyes, lips, hair, body etc. It was that way in Witchblade too. Telling the difference between Sara and ten other female side characters got pretty difficult at times till she was name dropped or seen with the Witchblade.
I did love both games to death for very different reasons though. The first felt more... realistic? Creepy and heartfelt at the same time. The second was a blast to play and I enjoyed that they snuck it to be a little closer to the comics in some ways. A real shame we don't seem to be getting a third game featuring the Angelus or a Witchblade spin-off.
The Darkness games will always have a special place in my heart (no pun intended given one of the game's mechanics), despite the second game being stuck with a cliffhanger. The sad thing is that Darkness 2 did so poorly 2K/Take Two cancelled any possible DLCs for the game.
I think I'm one of the very few people who has the limited edition of the sequel game, which had a different outfit for the darkling and a couple perks for the single player campaign.
Oh damn. Soooooo hyped for this video
So freaking underrated these games !
If I'm not mistaken both games are backwards compatible on Xbox One & Series X / S
Unfortunately I got to experience and love the sequel before playing the original, and surprisingly I still enjoyed the sequel quite a bit more. What I found surprising is how manipulative the scenes in the asylum was, how the darkness actually almost gaslighted me into choosing to stay in the asylum with Nurse Jenny. (The Darkling's death was one of the main reasons why I chose to jump) I have a feeling that the asylum wouldn't have been anywhere near as effective if I'd played the original game first.
I felt that both games had incredible aspects, the character relationships and worldbuilding of the original were amazing, but the gameplay mechanics (Yes, even the darkling gameplay) and graphical design of the sequel was better.
A few things I LOVED so much more in the sequel than the original was the Darkling who has a much more unique personality, and the model of the Darkness itself, for example the Darkness instead of both heads having the same design, one head now has a design better for grabbing and throwing, while the other now has a design better as slicing, biting, and killing quickly.
Seeing this on my feed is like a full breakfast platter being dropped right in front of me. Thanks!
8:19 ok man you got a sub just for that reference clip. Well played.
to anybody who wants to play first darkness game it is xbox one backwards compatible and is regularly at sale.
The first game was one of the first 360 games I put ungodly hours into, I got it from a friend in a CD book full of games. I had no idea what 10 year old me was in for I played this game and it took me months to finish but I loved every minute of it. I love the realism that is felt in this game it doesn't always land but it feel real the weight and gunplay have feeling and I love it.
I pray that a PC port or Remaster happens this game is gem and deserves to be played on modern hardware
I loved these games, and occasionally go back and play the second game every now and then. when you get the ball rolling, you really do just become this moving ball of darkness that quite literally consumes all in its path. It's pretty neat.
Only watched this now. I love the games, especially the atmosphere of the first one. Although I'm aware of the comics, I've never seen them. great and fair review.
You the man for covering these games. I loved the comics growing up, and me and my ex roommate never realized we were both fans till i was getting rid of my superman crossover comics, and he saw my Darkness vs Superman copy and we now just revist darkness 2 whenever we link up lmao
YES
so happy to see this series getting some love.
One of the first games I ever played on PS3, always loved it. It was Yahtzee (Zero Punctuation)'s first review too, and what got me into watching him. Nice to revisit this series, thanks for the video.
I'm litterally that meme of Spongebob sitting in the diner patiently waiting for The Darkness 3😂. If they do come out with a sequel its gonna be on some Devil May Cry shit😂
I love both games so much
I have a great memory of playing Darkness too, in the fall time quite a few years ago and spending the weekend with my nephew and my family. Whenever I play the game I think of that nice weekend.
Oh Hell yeah Boulder Punch covering The Darkness series. I live the 2nd game and have a while video focusing on it in the works.
Awesome video bro! I pray often that not only the Darkness 3 finally comes out, but The Darkness as a whole gains media recognition.
Love the games so much. Gotta read the comics soon
These games were great and heartbreaking. Both. I wanted a 3rd so bad. Very emotional experiences
I played these games during the angstiest time in my life, and boy did they hit. Literally couldn't watch the Jenny death scene during this video because they do so well in making you see why Jackie loves her so much.
I just love that the VA for Victor is the same as one who does Reverend Putty from Morel Orel.
Before watching the video I wanna put my two cents in because I have a nostalgic love for this series.
First game I remember being meh. Didn’t play a lot of it as a kid. And I remember less. But it got the ball rolling and had me checking out the comics.
2 tho, 2 is special. Dabbled in the comics so I had a sense of the plot. But it was edgy, violent, and gory as all hell. With little twinkles of genuinely deep storytelling and philosophy. The graphics were GREAT and still hold up now with that comic-esque art style blowing up again rn. Combat was just downright euphoric😂 and at times the story had you by the balls, having you SWEAR death on all who wronged you.
I. Love. 2.
Still have it downloaded as we speak, boutta play again. Cannot praise the game more.
God I hope the first game gets a PC remaster. I still have the physical copy for 360. I played it so much man theres nothing else out there like it.
You know, I remember reading Wizard previewing The Darkness comics back when their were first getting started. and most of that preview being devoted to "Jackie learning of his offspring curse and trying to make a woman out of the Darkness to alleviate his stress". As well as talk about Witchblade, Fathom and related titles.
I actually wouldve preferred if they hadn't confirmed the mental hospital was an illusion. Jackie just jumps and Jennie screams in horror, cut to the hell section that might or might not be real. Would've made the game a little more memorable and kept people talking about it.
The acting in this game is amazing work
Nice to see you covering this series! I've always loved the comics and the games were both super memorable and fun. The second felt more like the comic, while the first had a fantastic atmosphere.
Another difference between the first and second series, and the first and second game - is actually something kind of silly - his suit. In series one and the second game, Jackie can power up in the biomechanical armour, but in the first game and the second series Jackie is mostly just a guy in a black trench coat. Personally I prefer the super suit - and the more tongue in cheek writing style.
God you are one of the best vidya channels on UA-cam next to Mandalore and Sseth, almost at 100K subs my guy!!
I still have my pre-owned copy of the darkness 1, and my preorder copy of 2, both for 360. I love these games, go back to play em all the time, and they’re both such weirdly good game. When I was young, I played the first for the cool demon shoulders…and then I met Jackie’s aunt. After that, I was genuinely in love with the story. Thank you to these games for making a large part of my childhood
i loved these games, and i loved the video too!
have some good memories playing the second one as a kid i was pretty young the ending stuck wiht me for YEARS still think ab this game sometimes the asylum/hospital part or whatever was the most memorable
Anthony Estacado looks exactly like Ray leota from Good Fellas the scary face that randomly appears in the lightning during the WW1 area was so scary
Still remember this game after years
Was highly invested in this game the horror mafia ww1 monsters everything was fun 😊
Great new vid keep it up☀️☀️
Man, I love videos like this about games. We're in the best era for humanity.
I played the hell out of The Darkness as a kid, such a cool game and I love any game that lets you have little imps
Love the first The Darkness with all my heart. The way Starbreeze landed the comic book story in the first part is very reminiscent of what HBO did with the Spawn animated series in the late 90s.
You earned my sub with that oneyplays reference
Oh you actually mention that LOL!
Nightdive could be remastering the first game. It's only a rumor as of now.
Such a fantastic game and it still holds up imo
the first game, made me think about it for years and replay so many times
That ending scene actually hit me with depression when I played it. My girlfriend actually had to comfort me afterward. Even then, I still felt kinda horrible. I sat and watched that entire movie all the way through because it felt human. It felt... normal.
D1 was such a sick game, i had no clue what it was about when i played it, so i was surprised at every turn
I even did a hard mode NO DARKNESS run just because how much i love this game, the soundtrack, everything... such a good game, feels great too.
Loved the first darkness so much
StarBreeze games all had unique approach how they designed gunplay and gun-physics - they tried to make it very weighty and meaty, like if your character actually had a physical body and held an actuall heavy gun in their hands. Kinetic Gunplay so to speak.
Such a underrated series.
Rumor is Nightdive will be remastering the game, then we can be depressed about Jenny in 4k.
I always thought Darkness, Witchblade, and Fathom would make good live action movies.