That's probably because that at the very begging of the Chinese Communist Revolution, the main site of Mao Zedong and his Soviet Republic of China was in southern China, mainly Jiangxi province. After the 3rd International sent the German military consultant Otto Braun the Soviet Republic of China lost its battle against KMT's 5th "Encirclement" and was forced to "Long March", when they first arrived in Shannxi province local peasants had never heard of communism at all, so Mao had a low peasant support at that time. What's more, peasant support was an important reason for Mao's victory, but not the only one. KMT's army corruption and low public support is also an important reason, since ancient China, Chinese peasants have been always restricted in their lands and exploited by landlords, Mao's communist government and Red Army forced landlords to give their lands to poor peasants, which is why all peasants support the communist party. If the Soviet Russia's communist revolution is a "Revolution for workers", then that of China is a "Revolution for Peasants".
@@christlau1233 On the contrary, they chose ShanXi as their destination because Liu Zhidan has already established their rule there, Mao was trying to join them. I still think that peasant debuff is a weird one.
to be fair Indian Glory as far as iv'e seen he only really does strategy games. most people when they go to watch something they want to see action or comedy or other things not generally strategy. therefor he is less likely to be found due to the majority game type he posts. i would still agree though that i would like to see him get more subs due to how dedicated to it he is.
Watching this in 2021, it is weird to hear Pravus say that we have new mechanics, about mechanics like Stability, War support, Command Power and decisions, when for my entire time playing Hoi4 they have always been there . It also weird to see some things, like the intelligence agency, not be there. It is great to see how much Hoi4 has come forward though.
Province of Sinkiang under Sheng Shicai(盛世才)'s reign(1933-1944) was pretty much like all other warlords in china at that time, de jure an autonomy province of ROC and de facto semi-independent state. To correct you guys, Sheng was NEVER a Communist or Islamic or possessed by any other faith(could be easily confused by playing HOI4 if you're not familiar with Chinese history, coz it'll always joining the 3RD International in the game), he was purely an opportunist like many other Chinese warlords in his time, struggling between great powers eg. USSR Japan and ROC, trying to keep his rule over the land. In fact, he kept close relationship with USSR during most of the time of his reign in Sinkiang, even once asked Stalin to accept Sinkiang as an SSR integrating into Soviet Union, as he actually cannot control the province on his own any longer(rebelion against him was overwhelming), but after Stalin's refuse based on the good relationship of USSR and ROC at the time, he turned to chiang kai-shek the leader of ROC again, joining his Chinese Nationalist Party(which is extremely anti-communism) and pledged royalty to Chiang himself. In the end of the story Sheng's title over Sinkiang was replace by Chiang right after his surrender, coz by nature Chiang won't be trusting him anymore.
That's true, Sheng Shicai is never a communist, it is just because Sinkiang shares a border with USSR so that Sheng became an "opportunist-communist" in order to seek for Stalin's help. What's more, after the anti-Japanese war, Sheng's father-in-law's family, 10 people at all, were killed by several pre-northeastern army soldiers. Since when Sheng Shicai killed lots of communists (including Mao Zedong's brother Mao Zemin), he also killed northeastern army soldiers. So Sheng Shicai is not a communist, he even killed a lot of communists. And Sheng Shicai is a Han Chinese from northeastern China, its government is not an integration of politics and religion, such as the "East Turkestan Islamic Republic" led by Xoja Niyaz Haji.
I'm so proud of myself that I captured Shanxi 2 in-game weeks before you did. Didn't think I was at all good at the game. That's a huge morale booster whenever I can beat a UA-camr and a challenge I took on because they did it. Thanks. Even though you weren't trying to do what you did for my soul, you did it and I thank you.
Ey. Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism aren't the same. Democratic Socialism is achieving socialism through the current democratic system a country has in place. Social Democracy isn't Socialism, but rather capitalism with more social and welfare benefits.
So it is such an unbelievable thing that they had recovered and won their war against Chiang Kai-shek, who had far more troops and domain than Mao Zedong.
@@logancutora9553 KMT was weakened by Chiang kai-shek and his corrupt bureaucracy. Basically after 1927, in terms of national defense, they were no better than the Qing Dynasty. Even during the last month before Japan's surrender, the KMT was still experiencing disastrous defeats.
@@高鹏飞-c9o hmmmmm Chiang kai shek is corrupt eh?then tell me how they even get a uprising against qing dynasty and led a successful revolution if they were terrible at it
You're actually wrong about the foreign investors part of the focus tree. You can go down them without the other country being communist. Either from being in a faction with them or them having a 75 or higher opinion of you (so, if you want their stuff, improve relations).
It seems that Shanxi is likely to choose the "Co-operate with Communists" national focus line if you choose the historical focus option, probably because that Shanxi was bound by communist China...
1. Remember to check the requirements. Don't do the mistake of rushing down the political tree and realizing you can't proclaim the PRC. 2. You could always coop with the republic to fight off the Japanese, then taking the creating your own faction focus, then try to take control over China. During the civil war, you could always start preparing for the domination of China (through decisions). 3. When switching doctrines, you should research the second research on your original doctrine, then click research on the doctrine you want to change to using the same research slot. It will then auto-research the first of the doctrine. (The devs use this too. It's not an exploit.) Just some tips I want to share.
I have to say; Kaiserreich, The Great War, and plenty of other mods could definitely benefit from these new meters (e.g: Stability) and redesigns from Waking the Tiger. Nice on Paradox.
Just recently found this channel, I had the game, but never could figure it out, definitely helping me learn and what better way than one of the hardest countries.
@@shmeckle666 That's true, the ROC's national spirit "Army Corruption" is not hyperbolic . A lot of KMT soldiers especially warlord soldiers always rob civilian's food, causing them to leave a bad impression in KMT-controlled areas. What's more, a lot of KMT soldiers were abused to opium...
Because the NE warlord generals Zhang Xue Liang and Yang Hu Cheng kidnapped Chiang Kai-Shek and forced him to stop his war with the CPC, to actually starting to resist against the invasion.
Oh my god the day has finally come HOI4 waking the tiger series looking forward to watch the whole series and you playing as other factions btw is this gonna be a long series? if it is im looking forward for it
I watched some 2-3 Cornflakes Waking the Tiger series from before it was released, and started watching another one after it was released. And of course the absolute waste of screentime that was the Three Day War. This is already by far more entertaining, thrilling, and interesting than any other series I watched.
More like blackmail the Nationalists - send a spec ops mission to capture Jiang Jieshi and force him to ignore the Communists. Historically there was very little infiltration since the Nationalists focused on the industrial urban core while the Communists focused on the agricultural peasant core. Subversion was the strategy used instead.
Most people in western countries just think that "Communism is terrible, democracy and capitalism is the best ideology in the world, communist China is just like hell, people from communism China don't have human rights and freedom...... etc", only Paradox players can think critically about the inner logical relations between different ideologies.
@@rrramblex It's the thing I heard they have in China, when they say all the right things government tell them and generally are good bois, they accumulate social rating which determines their wages, credit rating and all kinds of buffs.
Ehhhh... puppet management and licensing were really the only new mechanics added into the game with DorD. National focuses don't really count, in my view. Those should have been included in the base game or a free update, not a full-priced expansion. At least this expansion adds stability, war support, and decisions.
@@PravusGaming in the base game you have like no focus trees i love to play as austria and communist china but i have no dlc so i cant realy play without rt56 and i hate that
After WWII was over the world was divided to three: Those who lived through it, those who died from it, and those who wished they died so they wouldn't have to remember it. Thus the sane population in the world were either draft dodgers, or unfit for service.
"First meaningful expansion" is very debatable. Per Paradox, the good stuff comes with the patch and the DLC is just focus trees. Saw someone play without the DLC and, bar China being the same, you can hardly tell.
pravus is the only youtuber that i am willing to watch play hoi4 because only who can keep my attention the only exceptions are people who play it multiplayer and alex the rambler who only shows the times when things happen
Also, are you going to make China Socialist or straight up Communist like for an example, In our timeline, China left the USSR to be more Socialist, but are you going to do the historical way of the PRC or stay with the USSR and stay communist, just curious?
Faris Atoura You mean Marxist-Leninist? Communism is an economical model that is meant to succeed Socialism, once Post-Scarcity is achieved. Most modern Socialists are, by extension, Communists. But not every Communist is a Marxist-Leninist. Hell, not even every ML group agree on what the USSR did right and wrong.
If you don't care about starting/playing with a specific tag (PRC or CHI) then playing as a chinese minor actually hase unique perks: game mechanics-wise a chinese minor has its own unique tech tree which allows you as example access to more tech slots and then swap to communist or republican tech tree to also get the tree options from the majors (even more tech slots as example, or pick as minor to embrace Opium Trade and then in the new tech tree get rid of the negative alone) visually all minors have their own unique unit models (I love the Xibei San Ma troopers with swords) which you keep even if you become the new communist or republican China, and you may opt to keep your starting ruler when uniting china as republical or a Maoist China (sadly the bonus is still called 'Maoism' even if your leader isn't Mao, but that's the only tree branch that doesn't force a change in communist leader) and as bonus (might be due to bug) when you proclaim the People's Republic while your flag and name becomes the PRC one the map color for the nation reverts from the pinkish-red to your original, so as in case of XSM your communist China would be blue on map and have those neat swordwielding soldiers as unit models. (and I guess you could always just change ideology again once you finished the Communist Tree)
If anyone wonders - in the period it took Pravus winning Shanxi it is possible to not only beat Shanxi but Xibei San Ma as well and been half wave done with Sinkiang. You just move your troops through gap in enemy lines, grab capital and encircle entire fronts while pinning down with your own troops (it is not like you will generate any significant losses even attacking across river into mountain compared to your manpower...). By the time Japan declares war on Nationalist China, you are done with northern warlords and comparable to Nat. China factory wise as well having some 38 milion population within borders and can just build up as Nationalist and Japanese duke it out on narrow front. In every game I followed that strategy it gives around 2 years of time to build up before Nat. China starts collapsing and needs help. By that time it is possible to have between 3-4 full armies of infantry just defending your long border with Japan and start thinking about deploying armies to focus on offensive against Japan pupets. Also technology choices and National Focuses order in this order were quite meh which didn't help. My advice get 3rd research slot asap, instead of getting bonuses to research, focus on Infantry Weapons from '36 and doctrine first. Allocate all conquered factories into new guns research line as they cost the same and will start at same low efficiency so it is better to have '36 variant being your go-to for most of the game instead of basic weapons. In later patches they added National Spirit for Maoism which reduces infantry weapons industry cost bu 10% and further down the NF tree there is optional additional 10%.
8 width works, you want the width to be a factor of 40, which 8 is. Not that it matters at the start as commie China, you just want as many divisions as possible to exploit gaps in the front lines
Quick suggestion for this playthrough, Mountaineers will be the bees knees mixed with Motorized, Logistics company, Recon, Field hospitals, at least early game since the majority of China will be mountainous. Tanks while good in China can be a hindrance, Mechanized would be better.
Another way of winning is to rush the tree were you take over weak neighbors getting free war goals. Having conquered the northwestern warlords and fast-forwarding a little, this eventually should lead into Japan conquering into deep Chinese territory while you have like around 50-70 divisions, on horseback with no weapons or equipment or training.... No Frontline.. just a zigzag and go behind the Japanese and take over their ports. used two divisions that are equipped and trained to isolate and defend key points. Unconventional way to play, it is very cheesy but this the hardest faction the play by far.
i know tis old, but in case it ain't been said yet, the right side of the tree doesn't require nations being communist to go down it, they just need a 75 opinion of you is all
Actually, I've discovered a good method of beating cliques including Shanxi, Xibei Sanma and Sinkiang, train a lot of 1-cavalry-battalion cavalry divisions, and since these cliques have quite long boarders but few divisions, there must be some states empty, through which our 1-cavalry-divisions can quickly insert and expand in enemies' back, which is quite similar to the German blitz, but using cavalry instead of panzer...
What's more, northwestern China has terrible terrains that it is such a difficult thing to make the attack bubble green, and there is more defence bonus, which guarantees that even a one-battalion division can hold on for a long time. So it is quite easy to maintain the battleline even using the one-battalion division.
Using this method, it is not a tough thing to annex all northwestern warlords including Sinkiang before the Japanese start to invade China, just notice that if you declare war on Sinkiang without joining Communist International, the Soviet Union may send volunteers to Sinkiang, so make sure that the cavalry will reach Urumqi within 7 days before Sinkiang is able to receive volunteers.
7:15 Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy are not the same, at all. One is capitalist with social policies (Social Democracy), another is socialist with capitalist policies or just plain socialist (Democratic Socialism).
in my gameplay i tried this strategy but when the war started after 2 month they had like 17 divisions already and they were not passive like in your gameplay
The entire right side is shared between all Chinese. So its more for nationalists and not communists. But you can imporve relations and become BFF with germany.
That peasant debuff is weird, peasant support was the only reason the mao administration became a thing
That's probably because that at the very begging of the Chinese Communist Revolution, the main site of Mao Zedong and his Soviet Republic of China was in southern China, mainly Jiangxi province. After the 3rd International sent the German military consultant Otto Braun the Soviet Republic of China lost its battle against KMT's 5th "Encirclement" and was forced to "Long March", when they first arrived in Shannxi province local peasants had never heard of communism at all, so Mao had a low peasant support at that time.
What's more, peasant support was an important reason for Mao's victory, but not the only one. KMT's army corruption and low public support is also an important reason, since ancient China, Chinese peasants have been always restricted in their lands and exploited by landlords, Mao's communist government and Red Army forced landlords to give their lands to poor peasants, which is why all peasants support the communist party. If the Soviet Russia's communist revolution is a "Revolution for workers", then that of China is a "Revolution for Peasants".
@@christlau1233 On the contrary, they chose ShanXi as their destination because Liu Zhidan has already established their rule there, Mao was trying to join them. I still think that peasant debuff is a weird one.
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@@christlau1233说的太好了❤而且中共能在劣势中赢得战争也有毛泽东真的很擅长作战的缘故😂他的作战能力在中国历史上绝对能算进前3
You are the most dedicated yet underrated UA-camr I have seen.
You deserve way more subs.
Praise Pravus!
Japanese shibe Well, Jacksepticeye didn't get worse. I am his fan as well. Top of the morning to you ladies!
to be fair Indian Glory as far as iv'e seen he only really does strategy games. most people when they go to watch something they want to see action or comedy or other things not generally strategy. therefor he is less likely to be found due to the majority game type he posts. i would still agree though that i would like to see him get more subs due to how dedicated to it he is.
texwifty texwifty Very true
Guess what?
My fav not without a reason😎
Watching this in 2021, it is weird to hear Pravus say that we have new mechanics, about mechanics like Stability, War support, Command Power and decisions, when for my entire time playing Hoi4 they have always been there . It also weird to see some things, like the intelligence agency, not be there. It is great to see how much Hoi4 has come forward though.
Province of Sinkiang under Sheng Shicai(盛世才)'s reign(1933-1944) was pretty much like all other warlords in china at that time, de jure an autonomy province of ROC and de facto semi-independent state. To correct you guys, Sheng was NEVER a Communist or Islamic or possessed by any other faith(could be easily confused by playing HOI4 if you're not familiar with Chinese history, coz it'll always joining the 3RD International in the game), he was purely an opportunist like many other Chinese warlords in his time, struggling between great powers eg. USSR Japan and ROC, trying to keep his rule over the land. In fact, he kept close relationship with USSR during most of the time of his reign in Sinkiang, even once asked Stalin to accept Sinkiang as an SSR integrating into Soviet Union, as he actually cannot control the province on his own any longer(rebelion against him was overwhelming), but after Stalin's refuse based on the good relationship of USSR and ROC at the time, he turned to chiang kai-shek the leader of ROC again, joining his Chinese Nationalist Party(which is extremely anti-communism) and pledged royalty to Chiang himself. In the end of the story Sheng's title over Sinkiang was replace by Chiang right after his surrender, coz by nature Chiang won't be trusting him anymore.
That's true, Sheng Shicai is never a communist, it is just because Sinkiang shares a border with USSR so that Sheng became an "opportunist-communist" in order to seek for Stalin's help. What's more, after the anti-Japanese war, Sheng's father-in-law's family, 10 people at all, were killed by several pre-northeastern army soldiers. Since when Sheng Shicai killed lots of communists (including Mao Zedong's brother Mao Zemin), he also killed northeastern army soldiers. So Sheng Shicai is not a communist, he even killed a lot of communists. And Sheng Shicai is a Han Chinese from northeastern China, its government is not an integration of politics and religion, such as the "East Turkestan Islamic Republic" led by Xoja Niyaz Haji.
I'm so proud of myself that I captured Shanxi 2 in-game weeks before you did. Didn't think I was at all good at the game. That's a huge morale booster whenever I can beat a UA-camr and a challenge I took on because they did it. Thanks. Even though you weren't trying to do what you did for my soul, you did it and I thank you.
Ey. Social Democracy and Democratic Socialism aren't the same.
Democratic Socialism is achieving socialism through the current democratic system a country has in place.
Social Democracy isn't Socialism, but rather capitalism with more social and welfare benefits.
dumbocratic socialism, there's nothing democratic about it
sounds like you've been voting bernie
PrimalTheEmperor (primal9000) Bernie is a social democrat dumbass
@@fduranthesee wow this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard, congratulations!
@@fduranthesee You are an idiot.
Bernie has described himself as a Democratic Socialist.
After completing the Long March, they arrived with only 10% of the people they started out with, the rest had died.
That kinda reminds me of napoleon's army that had died from the cold and arrived with less troops
So it is such an unbelievable thing that they had recovered and won their war against Chiang Kai-shek, who had far more troops and domain than Mao Zedong.
@@christlau1233 well they backstabbed them because Chiang kai-shek forces was weakened due to fight against the Japanese
@@logancutora9553 KMT was weakened by Chiang kai-shek and his corrupt bureaucracy. Basically after 1927, in terms of national defense, they were no better than the Qing Dynasty. Even during the last month before Japan's surrender, the KMT was still experiencing disastrous defeats.
@@高鹏飞-c9o hmmmmm Chiang kai shek is corrupt eh?then tell me how they even get a uprising against qing dynasty and led a successful revolution if they were terrible at it
You're actually wrong about the foreign investors part of the focus tree. You can go down them without the other country being communist. Either from being in a faction with them or them having a 75 or higher opinion of you (so, if you want their stuff, improve relations).
You are right Kahavave, the way it is written in the focus tree is a little bit confusing, so good call. That really helped!
yeah this guy is insanely lazy
17:46
Anyone else notice that Shanxi doing the “Co-operation with the Communists” national focus while he was justifying a war goal on them? Lol.
It seems that Shanxi is likely to choose the "Co-operate with Communists" national focus line if you choose the historical focus option, probably because that Shanxi was bound by communist China...
No
1. Remember to check the requirements. Don't do the mistake of rushing down the political tree and realizing you can't proclaim the PRC.
2. You could always coop with the republic to fight off the Japanese, then taking the creating your own faction focus, then try to take control over China. During the civil war, you could always start preparing for the domination of China (through decisions).
3. When switching doctrines, you should research the second research on your original doctrine, then click research on the doctrine you want to change to using the same research slot. It will then auto-research the first of the doctrine. (The devs use this too. It's not an exploit.)
Just some tips I want to share.
kinda sad they got rid of the fast doctrine switching
Coop
"China will remember me!"
- Generic PLA soldier, 20XX
US soldiers slaughtered like filthy pigs in some middle east shihole yet still believe they served their country.
no they wont
@royviscourt I support pla!Cause they fight for our country, fight for our people, fight for our love! Respect!
You are a damn good UA-camr, Pravus. Don't stop.
You are a Golden Boy...Most dedicated youtuber. Thx for incredible videos
I have to say; Kaiserreich, The Great War, and plenty of other mods could definitely benefit from these new meters (e.g: Stability) and redesigns from Waking the Tiger. Nice on Paradox.
Just recently found this channel, I had the game, but never could figure it out, definitely helping me learn and what better way than one of the hardest countries.
Historically speaking, CC allied with KMT. After WWII, KMT declared war on CC again.
R.Y. Ho the KMT started a war they couldn’t win, didn’t help they were pathetically corrupt. No wonder they lost and fled.
@@shmeckle666 That's true, the ROC's national spirit "Army Corruption" is not hyperbolic
. A lot of KMT soldiers especially warlord soldiers always rob civilian's food, causing them to leave a bad impression in KMT-controlled areas. What's more, a lot of KMT soldiers were abused to opium...
R.Y. Ho Yes they fought with against the Japanese and Manchukuo Troops.
Because the NE warlord generals Zhang Xue Liang and Yang Hu Cheng kidnapped Chiang Kai-Shek and forced him to stop his war with the CPC, to actually starting to resist against the invasion.
YES IT’S FINALLY HERE
MY BODY IS READY
Gerald
tfu yipponskiy go bak too of manzhur mountan dis is KOMMUNIST PARTIA
Nick Azrieli sorry I’m english
Boii, was I looking forward to seeing you playing this DLC.
I got 5:44 minutes... unskipable... chinese cybersecurity ad. I feel even worse because I watched the whole ad cuz it was interesting XD
24:22 If the AI had decided to just take your capital you would've capitulated because you only have one city
Oh my god the day has finally come HOI4 waking the tiger series looking forward to watch the whole series and you playing as other factions btw is this gonna be a long series? if it is im looking forward for it
Not terribly long, I imagine. HOI4 isn't as long as other Paradox games.
Pravus Gaming yeah point taken
I watched some 2-3 Cornflakes Waking the Tiger series from before it was released, and started watching another one after it was released. And of course the absolute waste of screentime that was the Three Day War.
This is already by far more entertaining, thrilling, and interesting than any other series I watched.
It crazy to me how tense I can get watching little dudes walk around on a map.
if i recall correctly the historical path was the cooperate and infiltrate the Nationalists
More like blackmail the Nationalists - send a spec ops mission to capture Jiang Jieshi and force him to ignore the Communists.
Historically there was very little infiltration since the Nationalists focused on the industrial urban core while the Communists focused on the agricultural peasant core. Subversion was the strategy used instead.
when you said "cornflakes" I heard "porn flicks"
do I need help?
You need all the help
I heard it too
You need help from all the universe
PRAISE PRAVUS. A new HOI series is upon us.
I like watching your video. Even though I don't think I can personally play this type of games, there are just too many details to keep track of.
amount of research they put on the history,so real with all those strategies
Most people in western countries just think that "Communism is terrible, democracy and capitalism is the best ideology in the world, communist China is just like hell, people from communism China don't have human rights and freedom...... etc", only Paradox players can think critically about the inner logical relations between different ideologies.
Your voice is so relaxing it calms me
冒着敌人的炮火，前进！
Quoted from the Chinese national anthem, which was born during that period: "Brave under enemies' gunfire, march on !"
CongDinh Tran Then get out! You get most of your products from China! Don’t be disgraceful to it!
Fxxk yourself loser.
CongDinh Tran it's a gamer place here don't bring any personal bias here please. I
CongDinh Tran. son of a bitch
HAHA Pravus Complaining About The Factories XD
All hail the great Mao Tze Dong!
That's right comrade, catch your 0.3 points of social rating.
@@musclesglasses5790 what is social? lol
edit:grammar was bad
@@rrramblex It's the thing I heard they have in China, when they say all the right things government tell them and generally are good bois, they accumulate social rating which determines their wages, credit rating and all kinds of buffs.
All hail the great Mao Tze Dong!
@@musclesglasses5790 fake news
"Really meaningfull" but what about Death or Dishonor....?
Ehhhh... puppet management and licensing were really the only new mechanics added into the game with DorD. National focuses don't really count, in my view. Those should have been included in the base game or a free update, not a full-priced expansion. At least this expansion adds stability, war support, and decisions.
Pravus Gaming alright, i understand what you meant now. Thanks for the reply.
Praise be!
Pravus Gaming please play Victoria 2
@@PravusGaming in the base game you have like no focus trees i love to play as austria and communist china but i have no dlc so i cant realy play without rt56 and i hate that
God sent me here. He was right that this is Heaven
Praise Pravus! A new HOI series! Huzzah!
My God, so much has changed since then.
23:10 the entire world in a few years in game is described on that tombstone.
After WWII was over the world was divided to three: Those who lived through it, those who died from it, and those who wished they died so they wouldn't have to remember it.
Thus the sane population in the world were either draft dodgers, or unfit for service.
great dlc, great video, I'm definitely buying this game after watching you play, thx.
I could HEAR the air quotes around "new and interesting" with regards to travel time.
1:27 Sinkiang was a puppet of the Soviet Union or something (correct me if I'm wrong guys)
It was puppeted by the USSR, you're right. And Mongolia, and Tannu Tuva.
isn't spearhead and those 7 day buffs for together for victory?
I am LOVING the new update, new tech trees.
"First meaningful expansion" is very debatable. Per Paradox, the good stuff comes with the patch and the DLC is just focus trees. Saw someone play without the DLC and, bar China being the same, you can hardly tell.
Would really like to see Pravus do somethings that he normally does not, different doctrines, maybe turtle a bit more. Will be interesting either way.
pravus is the only youtuber that i am willing to watch play hoi4 because only who can keep my attention
the only exceptions are people who play it multiplayer and alex the rambler who only shows the times when things happen
Hey Pravus are you going to create the PRC or are you going to do a little twist because I'm just curious :)
This formaldehyde-marinated bacon is freaking a catastrophe of China...
Also, are you going to make China Socialist or straight up Communist like for an example, In our timeline, China left the USSR to be more Socialist, but are you going to do the historical way of the PRC or stay with the USSR and stay communist, just curious?
Faris Atoura
You mean Marxist-Leninist? Communism is an economical model that is meant to succeed Socialism, once Post-Scarcity is achieved.
Most modern Socialists are, by extension, Communists. But not every Communist is a Marxist-Leninist. Hell, not even every ML group agree on what the USSR did right and wrong.
USSR IS GONE BUT WE DIDN'T AND ONE DAY WE WILL SENT UYGHUR TO TAKE OVER TURKEY
Joking
Yes. I have awaited this day.
You are best youtuber that im watching
In fact,you can train 24 divisions to take Shanxi, Sanma and Sinkiang by July 1937.
This guy should be the commander back when my grandparents were fighting....
Pravus be praised!
Was a good episode.
Honestly enjoy HOI4 series (Almost as much as I like Democracy)
Praise be!
I agree, it is a good game when a skilled player is doing it.
I mean some of the debuffs are easy to remove just eating shanxi removes the long march
LOVE YOU PRAVUS!
Is this game easy to understand and play? I've never played this type of game of before, but it looks interesting.
Cool,r there a pe vision?
If you don't care about starting/playing with a specific tag (PRC or CHI) then playing as a chinese minor actually hase unique perks:
game mechanics-wise a chinese minor has its own unique tech tree which allows you as example access to more tech slots and then swap to communist or republican tech tree to also get the tree options from the majors (even more tech slots as example, or pick as minor to embrace Opium Trade and then in the new tech tree get rid of the negative alone)
visually all minors have their own unique unit models (I love the Xibei San Ma troopers with swords) which you keep even if you become the new communist or republican China, and you may opt to keep your starting ruler when uniting china as republical or a Maoist China (sadly the bonus is still called 'Maoism' even if your leader isn't Mao, but that's the only tree branch that doesn't force a change in communist leader) and as bonus (might be due to bug) when you proclaim the People's Republic while your flag and name becomes the PRC one the map color for the nation reverts from the pinkish-red to your original, so as in case of XSM your communist China would be blue on map and have those neat swordwielding soldiers as unit models. (and I guess you could always just change ideology again once you finished the Communist Tree)
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If anyone wonders - in the period it took Pravus winning Shanxi it is possible to not only beat Shanxi but Xibei San Ma as well and been half wave done with Sinkiang. You just move your troops through gap in enemy lines, grab capital and encircle entire fronts while pinning down with your own troops (it is not like you will generate any significant losses even attacking across river into mountain compared to your manpower...). By the time Japan declares war on Nationalist China, you are done with northern warlords and comparable to Nat. China factory wise as well having some 38 milion population within borders and can just build up as Nationalist and Japanese duke it out on narrow front. In every game I followed that strategy it gives around 2 years of time to build up before Nat. China starts collapsing and needs help. By that time it is possible to have between 3-4 full armies of infantry just defending your long border with Japan and start thinking about deploying armies to focus on offensive against Japan pupets. Also technology choices and National Focuses order in this order were quite meh which didn't help. My advice get 3rd research slot asap, instead of getting bonuses to research, focus on Infantry Weapons from '36 and doctrine first. Allocate all conquered factories into new guns research line as they cost the same and will start at same low efficiency so it is better to have '36 variant being your go-to for most of the game instead of basic weapons. In later patches they added National Spirit for Maoism which reduces infantry weapons industry cost bu 10% and further down the NF tree there is optional additional 10%.
Dude, when did all these new mechanics come in? I miss the old game
Да, the revolution can never end!
When i watched this all i see is ads not regular ads but i normally get huawei ads but no it is apple
How did you get that focus tree? I only have the default one
Buy the DLC called "Waking the tiger". If you don't have the focus tree you only have the vanilla version of the game.
Did you get mutinies in the army bug? I tried all options many times litterally over 10 times and I get no result.
when you max out your production rate but China have a brilliant general
I feel like Daniel brain right now.
Yes yes yes yes yes YES YES YES YES
Watching this Commi gameplay makes me hungry
Brave under enemies' gunfire, march on !
Always going with General Lin Biao, always my go to. A fanatic which caused his downfall, but a absolute UNIT of a general.
I just trained a fuckton of troops and walked around their lines
8 width works, you want the width to be a factor of 40, which 8 is. Not that it matters at the start as commie China, you just want as many divisions as possible to exploit gaps in the front lines
Quick suggestion for this playthrough, Mountaineers will be the bees knees mixed with Motorized, Logistics company, Recon, Field hospitals, at least early game since the majority of China will be mountainous. Tanks while good in China can be a hindrance, Mechanized would be better.
There's now a limit to how many special forces divisions you can have. Only a certain percent of your total forces. No more Space Marines.
Okay but still a couple of divisions of Mountaineers would be helpful in dealing with the mountains regions surrounding Communist China
Another way of winning is to rush the tree were you take over weak neighbors getting free war goals. Having conquered the northwestern warlords and fast-forwarding a little, this eventually should lead into Japan conquering into deep Chinese territory while you have like around 50-70 divisions, on horseback with no weapons or equipment or training.... No Frontline.. just a zigzag and go behind the Japanese and take over their ports. used two divisions that are equipped and trained to isolate and defend key points. Unconventional way to play, it is very cheesy but this the hardest faction the play by far.
Sinkiang is also a war lord
i know tis old, but in case it ain't been said yet, the right side of the tree doesn't require nations being communist to go down it, they just need a 75 opinion of you is all
Good video. Thanks.
很难想象毛爷爷是怎么做到的
So pravus doesent know about the doctorine switching trick...
Actually, I've discovered a good method of beating cliques including Shanxi, Xibei Sanma and Sinkiang, train a lot of 1-cavalry-battalion cavalry divisions, and since these cliques have quite long boarders but few divisions, there must be some states empty, through which our 1-cavalry-divisions can quickly insert and expand in enemies' back, which is quite similar to the German blitz, but using cavalry instead of panzer...
What's more, northwestern China has terrible terrains that it is such a difficult thing to make the attack bubble green, and there is more defence bonus, which guarantees that even a one-battalion division can hold on for a long time. So it is quite easy to maintain the battleline even using the one-battalion division.
Using this method, it is not a tough thing to annex all northwestern warlords including Sinkiang before the Japanese start to invade China, just notice that if you declare war on Sinkiang without joining Communist International, the Soviet Union may send volunteers to Sinkiang, so make sure that the cavalry will reach Urumqi within 7 days before Sinkiang is able to receive volunteers.
why does he play with historical focuses on?
I have managed to get in Comintern without wooing Soviets by the marxist focus tree. However, they wouldn't help me in the war with Japan.
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7:15 Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy are not the same, at all. One is capitalist with social policies (Social Democracy), another is socialist with capitalist policies or just plain socialist (Democratic Socialism).
Is this game ban in china or?
in my gameplay i tried this strategy but when the war started after 2 month they had like 17 divisions already and they were not passive like in your gameplay
Let's give Chairman Mao a Chair. He is also tired.
Did you see how fast those troops moved... :((((
Music a bit too loud
Hello everybody and welcome back to more hearts of iron evolved
*doesnt mention the emperor of manchukuo is the last Qing emperor*
Actually, the CCP gained most of its support from farmers. 😂
peasant rise up
The entire right side is shared between all Chinese. So its more for nationalists and not communists. But you can imporve relations and become BFF with germany.
Better then the American start you had in the last play through
Good to know you can reclaim Mongolia
What’s the best China to play as?
New "Battle of Taiyuan", though different forces
this is a mod?
Pravus next please do the civil war Germany way