Good: Talk about your concert experiences without putting someone down, saving seats for someone, feel free to sing and dance your heart out… Bad: Pushing people in attempt to get closer to the stage, constantly talking during performer’s set, putting your phone up for a long period of time, booing…
This exact thing is why Silk Sonic doesn't allow phones at their shows. They want their audience to have an actual full show experience. They want to see the faces of the audience. Not thousands of iPhone cameras.
Whenever I go to concerts, I try to take on camera my absolute favorite songs, but I couldn’t think of filming an entire concert for hours. It just doesn’t feel right to me.
@@Krissypoo508 i was going to comment this! i also do it, my absolute favorites i want to give it my FULL UNDIVIDED attention sing my lungs out lol but the ones i dont dig as much i allow myself to film a little to have a little memory of it. The end goal is living the moment as much as i can. Either way as Jon said I wont watch it more than once a year if lucky.
2 rules I always follow: 1.) as obvious as it sounds, if someone falls in a mosh pit, help them back up 2.) it’s okay to film parts (like 15-30 seconds of 1-2 songs an artist). There’s no need to go overboard, sticking to your phone the whole time takes the experience away
Had a similar issue when I saw Slipknot this past March. The entire row in front of me were on their phones 70% of the time and I couldn’t help but get the feeling that they were more interested in showing people that they were there than actually going there and seeing one of the best metal bands on the planet.
I recorded a couple of times either intros or some songs for 2 or 3 shows when phones started to get "good", then realized I never looked at the recordings except for when I just got back from the show then never again. I also get tired real fast of trying to time it all and get a good shot. So I said screw it and just be there in the moment when I go now.
Just went to his show last night, I really liked having no phones. Although I would have like a couple pictures of where my seat were (they were very good), I was still very engaged and it was a very great show.
Went to one of the London shows, the phone ban was a great idea, everyone seemed so in the moment and I think more artists should have this system, it makes the show feel so much more exclusive and the atmosphere is a whole different experience
I also hate excessive yelling at concerts. I know it’s a concert of course people will yell , but I was at the Buffalo Metallica/Ice Nine Kills show and this guy behind me yelled “I love you James!” Over and over the whole show. When James hetfield was talking about suicide during fade to black he was still yelling. Still enjoyed the show (and for the record only recorded two songs from each band so I was actually present in the moment lol)
I was at a concert where the guy behind me just yelled stupid crap like that the entire time. It's embarrassing, don't know how anyone thinks like that.
I was at that show too. I think i heard that same guy. Plus people got pretty innapropriately rowdy. Bad form buffalo. Not to mention almost everyone there had a fu*kin phone obstructing my view at all times.
My god, seeing footage from some of the crowds at the recent Arctic Monkeys shows are actually astonishing, I’m pretty sure every single person there is holding up a phone for the entire show, I even heard that, according to people that were there, people were actually FaceTimeing during it…
I saw that too. I watched Why'd You Only Call Me When You're High and everyone was almost synced bringing their phones up. I did read that when big bands go to smaller and poorer countries, only about 20% of people are fans and the rest are just people trying to make as much money off their fame by filming, autographs, etc
I do record like snippets of my favorite songs when I go to concerts for myself cause rewatching them makes me happy. I don't get the whole recording the entire concert thing though. Like what's the point of going if you're just gonna watch it through your phone?
Right? I assume most people nowadays that record the entire concert only really do it to post on social media or to sort of prove that they were there, and even then, who is actually gonna watch it?
One of the random things people don’t think about is a height difference. I’m short so if I’m behind a tall person, they won’t let me in front of them even if they tower over me. I’ve actually gotten to the point I don’t go to shows anymore because either I want to be close or I won’t go. I know it’s not technically their issue but it would be cool if people who were taller let us shorter people see
Same here!! I can’t stand it. What the hell is the point if I’m literally just seeing heads in front of me. It sucks. I’m 5’ 3”, and I’m ALWAYS behind giants
100% I’m 5’4 most of the times I had people cut in front that were taller then me and usually the terms are first comes first serves but there were a few nice concert goers that were taller then me see the show. I know I’ve let a few kids as well as fellow short people like me in front that couldn’t see cause it’s one of my biggest rules going. Last concert I went to was a concert I won for an album release party and still was in front but got pushed to a side for a tall person. Don’t go to concerts much anymore but have a lot of concerts under the belt.
I've seen clips of bands and artists, like Dave Grohl berating fans at a Foo Fighters concert for having their phones out at the concert. The concert going experience has obvious reflections of what is wrong with society. Im not saying that people shouldn't take videos and take pictures. It's just apparently, people need to learn how to be decent human beings in public, because it is sad that people would much rather have 15 minutes of fame, and virility, from complete strangers than an actual campfire conversation with family at Thanksgiving. P.s. My thing is when going to a concert, take pictures, but most importantly have ACTUAL FUN, wailing songs at the top of your lungs with what the band and/or artist is singing on stage. Engage with the band. But NEVER overuse your phone at a concert.... same thing goes for sporting events, movie theaters, etc
i got the notification for this and immediately thought “why, what did i do??” until i saw it’s from Beyond ARTV 😂 glad you got to see so many great acts lately, looked like a real blast! recently i had to unfollow Ed Sheeran on Instagram because he posts like 40 videos from different angles of concerts every single day. NO ONE IS WATCHING ALL THOSE, DUDE. everything over 5/6 stories a day is just overkill to me, i have a short attention span lmao
Also I agree with you. I've seen guys in front of me constantly posting to Facebook and getting literally no engagement. It's really dumb! You don't have to document every little detail of a show you're at, especially when people on your friends list generally don't care about the act you're seeing. It also becomes a pain to delete years of these posts when you hopefully decide to clean up your social media for a job interview. It also adds to the cringe when you look back at them years later!
This actually gave me an idea for a comedy sketch, thank you for giving me inspiration man! As for my two cents on the topic, this may sound boomer-ish, but people who would rather live their lives through a screen than being there in person makes me glad I'm not super reliant on my phone or social media all the time. I find it funny (not haha funny, but more so depressing) that those people types of people would often see the artist/band through the Internet, but when they decide to go see them performing live in person, they go back to seeing them on the small screen. Therefore, creating the exact same metaphorical distance between them. Especially when it comes to how concerts are priced nowadays, they paid a butt-load of cash just to show off to "everybody" and try to be the center of attention. The whole point of going to a concert is to be a FAN, not paparazzi.
Agreed! I'm a big proponent of taking a singular shot at the beginning of the show, and then putting your phone away for the rest of the performance. Constantly questioning if what you're seeing now is better than the shot you took a few minutes ago. Or, just take none at all! I look back at my concert singular photos regularly, but I'm sure if I took several or many photos of each concert, I've never revisit them at all.
I saw MCR a few months ago and there were so many people recording every song. I took a clip from the start of Black Parade and the bridge of Im Not Okay but I feel like it is so much rewarding to enjoy your time in the moment, you cant enjoy the songs when on your phone.
If I were running a concert, my strict policy for the concertgoers is to either use the phone to only take pictures, keep their eyes on the concert, and not update their Facebook or Twitter on a specific band or artist on a minute-by-minute basis. If you can't be courteous and considerate to other concertgoers, then I don't want you at the venue that I'll be performing in, if I get any gigs. I know that would alienate several patrons, but that's to ensure the enjoyment of the concert from other people. This policy is inspired by a similar policy from a cinema chain called the Alamo Drafthouse.
Yeah I agree, just use common sense and don’t be an asshole with your phone lol. I gotta disagree with the people who say that recording during concerts makes it a less intimate experience tho. I feel like it’s just a boomer take, like “these darn phones are messin up the youth!!!!” Obviously some times people are assholes and can mess up other peoples experiences if they’re not careful, but just because you record a video doesn’t mean you don’t care. We just finally have soemthing that most people can afford that also happens to be able to fit in your pocket and record things. When I’m down, I always look at the videos I took during concerts because those are my favorite moments. I’m able to still be present at the concert and take a few mins to record every now and then. Just don’t be an ass lol and I think using your phone won’t be such a big deal.
It's not just Boomer talk. I'm an old musician. Go look at any great concert from the mid-90s or before, when there were no cell phones. You see the audience is engaged like never since. When you are handling your phone you're only paying half attention to the actual performance. The performance is gone while you are trying to fuck with your camera. Your attention is not even really there.
@@216trixie but that’s just your perspective. I’ve talked to a lot people who also record videos and they say it doesn’t take away from the show for them at all. I camp out for concerts so the people im with at least are usually really dedicated to these bands and having videos means a lot to them. Also when I listen to music, these certain parts where im like “oh shit I need to see this live” and I record them as well. Everyone has their ways but I think as long as everyone is respectful with what their doing, I think it’s okay. Peopel have different perspectives just like how people experience a concert differently. Just don’t be an ass about it that’s all I gotta say lol
Oh I meant to say that, to you it may seem like someone can’t focus on the show and record but for me and others it’s possible and not really a big deal. Just different perspectives/ experiences.
216trixie, yep, many old shows were a collective experience hearts, guts, and minds in coherence mentally and physically, a bit like a flock of birds that all move at once. Now with cellular distraction in visual, audio, and spiritual realms it is fragmented and dissonant. Watch an old stones show filmed in a small venue, or deep purple show. All the people were present and a few pro camera persons trying to stay out of the way of the performance. It may never be the same again.
@@chloethepooh123 " I’ve talked to a lot people who also record videos and they say it doesn’t take away from the show for them at all" Good for you, I guess? We know it doesn't take anything away from you people, but the problem is that it takes away from other people at the concert and often times the artists themselves. I'm not a boomer, but I just don't get the point of filming a small snippet of a song on your phone during a live show. When you raise your hand from the crowd to film the stage the end result looks like dogshit and it sounds like dogshit. Good memories I suppose. Back in the day bootleggers at least tried to find a good angle to film from while also trying to make sure that the audio didn't sound like a crusty asshole.
Thank you for saying this, Jon. I’ve been to about 200 shows and here’s my recommendation for my fellow concert goers. Shut the eff up during the show!!!! Why go to a concert and talk to your friend the whole time? I beg of you all, please. Watch the show and talk all you want after the show, not during the show. Thank you for indulging this cranky old man.
Whenever I’m at concerts I always take videos. But it’s always the the first minute or so of maybe my favorite songs, then I’ll put my phone away and enjoy the rest of the song. If I’m close, I might also get more videos or pictures of cool or unique moments, and I actually do go back and rewatch videos I’ve taken of some of the best shows that I’ve ever been to pretty often, because I actually do kinda cherish some of the memories I’ve made. Sometimes I post on my snap story, and sometimes I don’t. Whenever I do, it’s always a short clip of each band that I see. Last week I saw Alice in Chains, Breaking Benjamin, and Bush, and I didn’t even think to put AIC on my story, even though I did put Bush and Breaking Benjamin on my story, and AIC was the band that I was most excited to see. When I was at the Hella Mega tour last year, I took so many pictures and videos because Weezer and Green Day are my 2 favorite bands, and seeing them on the same night was incredible. Next month some friends and I are going to Firefly fest in Delaware, but we only bought one day passes for the day that MCR is headlining because most of the bands we want to see are also playing that day. I decided that I’m gonna go back the next day alone because Green Day is heading, despite not caring much for the other bands on the lineup, and rewatching my Hella Mega tour videos is what convinced me do do so.
I'm only 17 and I'm fortunate enough to already say I've seen bands like Metallica, Green Day, Weezer, Slipknot, and more but I feel like my dad taught me from his concert experiences to enjoy the moment. He told me "You only get one experience at this show ever. It'll never be the same whether you watch it on your phone or UA-cam later" and I feel like that's what most people but especially my generation should learn
Cool new look by the way. I was at a Red Hot Chili Peppers concert at MetLife Stadium and a guy next to me was live blogging and streaming throughout much of the concert. I wasn’t bothered by it, but while I try and record some stuff for personal playback, I also try and soak in the moments. Sometimes I record and close my eyes while doing both at once. But being plugged in the entire way is excessive. I barely engage in social media anymore and it’s better than constantly being trapped in that rabbit hole.
This reminds me of two musicians who have very strict rules with cell phones at concerts. One is Jack White, who does what a few stand-up comedians do and has his audience put their phones in a Yondr pouch before the show so they can be in the moment with the music and not play on their phones. If you want to use your phone, you step outside and have a staffer unlock the pouch, but you have to put it back before you re-enter. That happened when I saw the Raconteurs (one of Jack's side-bands), and I'm positive it'll happen with Jack's upcoming tour. I'm not sure if other musicians actively do the Yondr pouch thing, but I at least know Jack does. The other is Maynard James Keenan, who puts things throughout the shows for all 3 of his bands that you're prohibited from using your phone period at the show. There were signs all over the place about that when I saw TOOL right before the pandemic, saying you'd be removed from the venue if you had your phone out during it. I've also heard stories of something similar at Perfect Circle and Puscifer shows... with people actually getting ejected from them. Now, with some TOOL shows, he apparently does a thing where he'll let you take pictures/record the very last song (I'm not sure if he does that for the others too), but he's apparently very strict with the phone thing too.
I live in Canada far from Toronto which is basically the only place most artists go when they come here. The only way I can see live shows is via recordings on UA-cam
I walked a fine line of concert etiquette the first time last weekend for The Weeknd concert; I admit I have slightly extended the video recording for my favorite songs, plus Abel’s little talk about the red suit jacket (which he declared he would never wear again after the concert), so I think as long as you have a plan of songs (say 3-4 songs) from the set list you’d like to remember and give it at least 30 seconds to a minute to record, that’s enough to give me time to experience the show phone free * *this is my first concert in like 10+ years so I’m still a novice and will adapt for future concerts
I record 30 seconds or so of my top 2 favorite songs & at my favorite part of the song & take a picture every few songs. I feel like everyone already spends so much time on their phone every day. So I wanna have fun & remember the special events. I don't wanna look back & only remember what it looked like through my phone. You miss so much doing that. In October 2021 I went to my 1st post covid show & it turned out being the best I'd ever been to. My favorite band member when scanning the crowd stopped & stared directly into my face for what felt like awhile but was probably only 3 seconds & if I had been on my phone I wouldn't have that memory & would have missed so many others from that night.
You are very right about this discussion I agree people have become more immune to their cell phones and it’s really rude to hold their phone up so that the people behind them can’t see and yes it’s also true that not very many people get views on their videos of their experience at a concert they attend and yes I’m guilty of taking videos of the concerts I attend and yes I do post them on social media but I also wanna keep the video so that I have something to go back and say I attended this concert that I had fun at and it puts a smile on my face watching the videos I frequently go back to
My rule of thumb is just one video, nothing too long, something to capture the memory for myself and flex on Instagram, and then I usually keep it away for the night
I went to a Chris Isaak concert a few weeks ago, and cellphones were to be turned off during the show (theater policy). However, Chris allowed everyone to take a moment to snap a picture or record a video, which was a really generous thing for him to do. This is how concerts should be handled IMO, especially in a standing crowd or small theater setting. Stadium concerts are a much better place for phone filming, as those behind you are slightly higher up. Even then, I'd keep the filming short. BTW the show was great, and he still has a ton of passion at his age.
Some etiquette points I’ve picked up on from personal experiences - don’t bring your entire sleepover backpack with laptop into the crowd, don’t consistently heckle at any given moment of silence & just don’t - don’t ever intentionally touch someone to try disturb them whilst enjoying the show unless it’s for a valid reason like dropping something or needing space etc. Had some dude tickle my armpit once at a pierce the veil concert whilst enjoying the show & it made me insanely conscious of raising my arms in the crowd, sounds dumb but he was trying to show off to his girlfriend n it annoyed the crap out of me
My general thing is that I'll take a selfie or two before the show starts, and I'll record a short clip from any songs I really love, maybe even the majority of it if it's a particular favorite, but my personal rule is that I won't watch the show THROUGH the phone. I press record and look at the screen for a sec to make sure the angle is okay and then I leave it and watch the stage with my own eyes. As you can imagine, that footage often doesn't end up looking too great, but like you said, I really will only watch it occasionally. But any recordings I take really are only to remember it by. I hardly ever post about personal events and stuff like that on social media. I'll talk about it to some friends on Discord, usually just saying how great a show was after the fact, but I never really post anything.
It's sad how people are willing to spend up to hundreds or even thousands of dollars to go to a concert just to spend the whole time on their phones recording. Not only does that take you out of the moment but it also creates a barrier between you and the artist. As a muscian, it definitely takes something out of a performance when I look into the crowd and all I see are statues with their phones up. I would much rather see people dancing or moving around than filming the performance any day. Just enjoy the show and be happy with the memories, a few pics or vids here or there is fine, but please don't be phone zombie.
Yeah years ago when I was younger I used to be exactly like this but as I’ve gotten older especially by this point, I’ll get one long snap or video of each band and that’s it. Just one and then I call it a day and enjoy the show. But especially for bands like rage against the machine who haven’t toured in god knows how long because who knows if this is going to be their last tour. Instances like that when there is an artist that’s an outlier and I feel like I need to record more than one song or something. Other than that I’ll just get one for each band.
I usually take a few pictures at the beginning of a show and then put my phone down to enjoy the whole experience. Concerts can be a once in a lifetime opportunity, and especially after COVID, I really just want fully engage with the shows.
Personally, whenever I'm at a concert I just put my phone in my pocket and record audio for it, this way I can fully experience the show myself, not bother anyone else, and also have something to remember the show by! Sometimes I take a video if it's a song I have a really special connection with, but for rare occasions.
2013, at The Killers show I was lucky enough to get 2nd row... unfortunately a very tall guy in front of me decided to record THE ENTIRE SHOW with his ipad... I never found the video on youtube or anywhere else. Also, I think it's good manner not to fall asleep during the opening act, as I witnessed this year during the Pixies concert, opening for Pearl Jam, where a woman beside me decided to sit down and sleep on very hot concrete because she wasn't interested. Ahaha
I'm just not into taking videos with my phone in general. When I first got a decent digital camera, and later an iPod Touch/iPhone with reasonable enough video quality, I enjoyed the novelty of being able to record entire songs at concerts I went to, but I'd generally save it for the smaller shows (when the sound would be more stripped down and there wouldn't a huge audience hollering through the entire thing), and even then I'd only record one or two songs that were personal favorites and/or rare setlist appearances. I generally figure these days that if a song's popular, there are going to be TONS of amateur videos of a band playing it, and even if it's a deep cut, someone will probably put a better version of it up on UA-cam than I ever could with my crappy several-generations-old phone and shaky hands. So I mostly just take photos at what I think are iconic moments during the performance, I'll put the phone away for long stretches of time in between, and 90% of what I get is gonna turn out to be crap later, so I'll post the few pictures that actually turn out halfway decent to Facebook for (if I'm lucky) the three or so friends who might actually care that I saw a certain band, and dump the rest. If a band or a venue does not want phones out during the show, though, I'll respect that. As annoying as it is when you see people with their phones recording EVERYTHING, the flipside of that is that it's nice to go on UA-cam and find out how a band pulls off a song that you really like live, whether they change up the arrangement, how it went with a special guest at a certain show, that sort of thing. Or if you're really lucky, you'll find old (and actually watchable) footage of a show you were at years ago. That came in handy not too long ago in a Facebook group where we were each posting lists of favorite songs from concerts we'd actually been to, and if possible, including links to live footage instead of just the still frame "videos" of the studio versions.
I see this all the time at not just concerts, but every sort of live event. I've even seen people do this stuff at movie theaters, which is even more annoying since you're asked multiple times to put your phone on silent or turn it off. Anyway, I might take a couple of pictures when I'm at show, but that's it. Otherwise, my phone is in my pocket and I'm enjoying myself. I feel like those people who just watch the show through their screens are not only distracting other people, but they're also just wasting their own money. They're depriving themselves of the full experience. People just don't want to remember things anymore. It's all about the social media clout and it's pretty depressing.
That's why I've been off social media (for the most part) for years now. When I go to a concert I don't even take out my phone unless someone is texting me.
When I go to concerts yes I do video my favorite songs on my phone but I always look at the artist while they are performing without looking at my phone. I always jump around and sing while recording too and always try to let smaller people go in front of me at smaller shows or try to move my phone in a way that doesn't block someone else's view. I usually just put it above me but not to where it's blocking a view for someone else.
I was at a $uicideboy$ show last night. I only filmed a couple clips for a couple songs but the most important songs, I sang every lyric without my phone. You can imagine how many phones were out. But concert etiquette, at least for me, mainly falls under moving forward because a lot of us had to keep our spots and we were there through 4 openers in 3 hours and people were like "can I move forward? I gotta meet up with my crew." And I hadn't seen them at all until half way through $uicideboy$ set. That is what mainly urks me at shows.
i mean i can get wanting to capture some parts on video for the memories…. but having your phone out for literally the ENTIRE concert?? how can you even thoroughly enjoy the concert with a phone in your hand for the whole thing
Went to see ADTR and The Ghost Inside in Reading PA. The crowd was by far the worst I have ever seen, anywhere. I was in the pit, which was dumb and I barely broke a sweat if at all which was a first. Alot of people had to record ADTR as if they were the first. Even with my kid, friends, and family, it's not about constant photos to show others or get lost in a cloud. Live for the moment and the now. Jump on someone and crowd surf, bounce around, have fun. It's seemingly dimming down over the years little by little. I've seen well over 300 bands in little life.
I saw Deftones live for the first time this summer. My brother asked me to film it a bit so he could just catch a glimpse of the show. I was so excited for the whole time i forgot to take my phone out at all (it's one of my top five bands) so i looked for clips on YT, and surprisingly only found two, by the same uploader also. I can say i have never been happier about not finding much footage of something. And on one of the videos it even caught my friend in the pit during 7 Words! 😄
Went to my first concert 3 days ago and i was so lucky that i was in the front. If I recorded something, I didn’t have to put my phone over my head. Did end up recording small clip of every song but its just for remembering those moments. I agree with you, living in the moment is a way better concert experience.
There's a whole subgenre of concert etiquette on heavy music (on smaller venues) that I think it's really interesting and it's a good example to borrow from. The whole "If someone falls down, pick'em up" or "dont raise your elbows too much on a circle Pit" are probably products of years of violent incidents and injuries that passed through generations as some sort of culture of it's own, so nowadays most people that are aware of those rules, are also pretty fine with following it. I believe that the cellphone recording thing will follow similar steps from now on. As these rules are being written, some years from now they will be just normal concert behavior for most.
I went to comic con to see the SpongeBob panel and got to talk to some voice actors from fairly odd parents and SpongeBob. Mr. Carlos(voice of mr. Crocker) and Mr. Bill (voice of Patrick star) were very nice humans. I didn’t want to film this magical experience and I’m glad that I didn’t 😭😭!!
It's normal to post about going to see a band on social media - I've actually managed to find friends who are also attending that way - but posting constantly about it and taking long videos are actually going to rob you of enjoying the experience first-hand, which is always going to be more fun than watching it back on your phone. I take the odd short video at gigs but having enough battery power in case I need to make a call on the way home is a lot more important!
My concert etiquette with taking pictures or videos is a little out there. Generally, when I go to a concert, I like to take one or two videos of my favorites from that band, and I mean full videos. I know there are many people out there that will take videos they’ll never watch again but I find myself going back to my videos a lot. And, 90% of the time, the videos are for myself, as I rarely post them. If I am fortunate enough to see the same band multiple times, I don’t need more videos of the same song, so I naturally hold my phone up less. That, plus a couple of pictures is enough for me, as I get a lot of the experience of a concert, plus nice memories to go back and look at again. With all that in mind, I am also guilty of taking too many videos at the occasional show, but even then, I’m not holding my phone up for the entire show, maybe just a couple extra songs or just small clips. Lots of people will take way too many videos of a show, but generally it doesn’t disturb me much, unless they’re severely blocking my view or they’re literally recording the whole concert. And as an extra note, I like being in general admission, but I don’t like mosh pits. Despite that, if a mosh pit “ruins” a video, or I can’t bother to take a video because of one, so be it. I can’t stop them and they’re enjoying the show in their own way. Basically, I don’t ever want to be the asshole at any concert, but at the same time, I cherish the ability to look back at some of my own videos of my favorite shows, so regarding this whole situation, I’m torn somewhere in the middle.
Go to a Tool show, their very very strict no phone policy (I personally think) is actually a fucking blessing. Forces you to be in the moment, forces you to pay attention, take it all in, really feel it and enjoy it and actually remember it in your head once it's over without having to lean on recorded clips
I'm going to see MCR this month. I neverrr thought that would be possible for me. That being said, I'm going to record a few snippets to save, but most of the time I'm going to be wayyyy into it
My kids yelled at me for using my phone while on a trip so I haven’t used it whenever we go some where. They said I need to fully engage with the moment, so that’s what I do. I guess the memories are enough.
My wife and I said this last week when we saw Kendrick in Brooklyn. We were up high, whole upper bowl going nuts and dancing and singing. But you look at the ppl with floor seats and they're just standing there with phones out for 75% of the show. It looked like ppl danced more for Baby Keem than they did Kendrick, it was super weird. Personally I try to record the opening of the concert but I make a point to not watch the opening through my phone. If the camera work is shoddy, oh well. After that I record maybe a favorite chorus or verse for 30 seconds but after that my phone is away the whole time.
I'm an avid roller coaster enthusiast, and I unfortunately see people doing this on moving amusement rides from time to time. Of course, it's worse on amusement rides because unsecured phones and cameras are safety hazards, especially on rides that have rapid changes in speed and direction like roller coasters, and are thus not allowed on most rides. Of course, some kids choose to ignore the rules and try to take videos and selfies on moving roller coasters. I've had a couple rides where I had to tell kids who were sitting in front of me to put their phones away for the reason specified above.
At times when almost every single band or artist barely ever come to Malaysia to play for us, and when I couldn't afford a plane trip just to watch them play in any parts of the world, I started to appreciate the fans and concert-goers for sharing the experience on UA-cam a little more. Especially those that actually recorded their entire tracklist with good quality videos and audios. But at the same time, if I were to get the chance to go to one (at all), well I would be lying if I say I would never pull my phone out and record. But I don't think I would pull my phone high up until it ruins the view for others. I've seen one comment here where a band doesn't allow phones at their shows, and if it's within the rule, I have no problem comply to it and hope that my memory won't fail me. In the end, it's all about manners and courtesy. If given the chance to record, try not to be an s/o to others that want to enjoy the shows without seeing those phones sticking out like sore thumbs. If there are rules apply to this matter, then we should at least respect the rules. Like two greatest music duo said: Be excellent to each other~!
Don't go to a concert if you'd rather be at a movie where everyone sits on their hands and claps politely. When I go to a show, I am into the show: I am up dancing and singing (not aloud, obviously) and enjoying myself. When the person behind me taps me on the should and says they can't see because I am up enjoying myself (I'm 5'2, not tall), and they are sitting in their seats, it's all I can do not to call them out their name. Try PARTICIPATING and maybe you'll have a good time too.
Billie Joe Armstrong encourages fans to keep their phones in their pockets and just live in the moment during their shows. Ironically, i didn't heed his words because i missed out on getting Tré's drumstick because i was too focused on taking a shot of the band taking a bow. There was confetti on the ground and people started scrambling at my feet. I was like, "calm down. It's just confetti, people." The guy next to me said, "and a drumstick...." as he points over at the girl on my other side, clinging to said drumstick. Sadness and regret filled my heart. Awesome performance, but i left disappoonted because of my own mistake
Imo, the best way to use your phone at a concert, and without bugging anyone, take one picture, and then enjoy the rest, no need to take 5 min videos that nobody will actually watch, and make more memories with just ONE good picture, it's all you need to remember the whole show
Blond Jon! I have a huge rule against having your phone out a the entire time at a concert and I usually try to pass that along with whoever I'm going with, typically they have a similar mindset so it's not usually a big deal. The only time you'll see my phone raised in the air is when it's being used as a makeshift lighter. Another big rule I have is to actually stand up and dance a little for the openers, like I understand conservating energy for the headliner, but I feel like its rude to not give the opening acts any type of reaction or if the crowd's being a real dick. It's understandable if you don't know every word or don't wanna scream your head off, but to just dance a little. Like I remember back in 2018 when Paramore was touring on After Laughter and they had Soccer Mommy and Foster the People open for them and Hayley having to make some kind of announcement to respect the opening band while Soccer Mommy was performing.
i mean, i think people mostly record to watch it later and just see it again and remember the great time they were having, and its more about that its thiers perspective, hearing thier excitement when a special song came up etc. At least thats why i am going to record my first concert, i hope the majority of people dont really think they are going to get famous for these clips and just want to remember special concert forever
I was at the same show! Thing is, what is the point of social media if not to showcase your interests/accomplishments. I agree that taking excessive videos and posting is annoying but one or two per concert I don’t think is a huge deal.
The only time I take videos is usually on songs that my friends want to see. I ask a couple buddies in DM's if there's any songs they want and then I send it to them after the show. As of late there hasn't been many video requests so I can just enjoy myself and just indulge in the moment.
I completely agree with you Jon. I used to be the type to record every song at a concert, till I realized I wasn’t really experiencing it. Nowadays I might take a 10 second clip of my fav song. Other than that, the phone stays in my pocket
So I found that some of my favorite songs are ballads which support flashlight lighting or flames, and if I really like the song, I will record the song - while having my lighting on. The footage is absolutely horrible but even the audio gives me chills most times. But aside from that I agree with many people before me in the comments - I mostly record only snippets that I really like or that are different from the studio version and keep and yes, even watch them again from time to time.
Doesn’t Metallica post live footage of many of their concerts right here on UA-cam? So why would I want to see someone’s grainy footage that has 6 views when I can see something professionally shot to relive the experience?
It seems like people are so worried about getting likes that they completely take for granted the experience of just being in those moments and enjoying the concerts.
One show that I went to, I made sure to record a few parts of the concert, but the audio and film was bad because I was still jumping and bopping to the music ☠
I’ve seen Weezer 4 times and the only time I recorded them was during “wrestle w/ Jimmy”. Everything else, especially like the solo in Say It Ain’t so, gets my full undivided attention lol.
I am one of those people that does lots of filming, but I always keep the phone in front of my chest so it doesn’t block anyone else’s view or my own, I make sure I watch it live and never through the screen and I am always jumping around, dancing, singing, screaming my lungs out throughout and the videos reflect that. It’s purely for myself to remember because I have bad memory and the concerts I don’t have photos or videos from, I don’t remember at all which is such a shame. A lot of the time I’m more lively than most the people around me despite the fact I’m filming. I know people are judging me for filming lots, but I just try not to care and not to block anyone and hope no one is a dick about it
i like to take 10-30 pics throughout the show (especially Green Day because of all the different background changes and the costumes, and all the poses Billie does), and a few clips from certain songs, but I couldn't imagine staring at the screen the whole show, or even a fourth of it. I DO like having a handful of people recording though, especially for bands that hardly post videos of their shows. Like the people recording really good quality videos of the recent MCR shows have been awesome. And I like those fan edits of the multi-cam shows (again, the MCR Shrine show is a good example). But not everyone in the audience should be holding their phone up recording the whole show. it kills the vibe, bc the artists won't get as much energy back from the crowd, thus not giving as much energy back
What really drives me crazy are all the boomers that feel the need to record the entire show on Facebook live. Nobody wants to see your show in 240p. Such a pain in the ass when I’m stuck behind a guy with his phone in the air the whole time recording just for his Facebook friends to ignore it.
Personally I think it's acceptable to throw objects at people filming constantly and blocking your view at concerts. Bonus points if you manage to knock the phone out of their hands!
My general thought is I am cool as long as you don't get in the way of others. Like my dad likes to record songs here and there for him it is more on the memories/remember (he has never posted anything he has taken kinda funny really). But anyway sometimes he "bullies" me into doing a song here and there so I do my best to make sure I am not blocking others view or bothering with the flash no real point to it. I actually have one of the pictures I took as a desktop background now lol, if I do post something it is more one picture and the day after (or several I don't pay much attention to social media) and more as an excuse for me to talk about the concert again. Anyway ya just as long as you are not in the way of other people I am fine. Side thought I find it interesting that when talks of being in the moment of the show people never bring up drinking or drugs. Like I had gone to shows where my sister was not only so drunk she didn't remember them at all but I had to carry her back to the car. I saw Kraftwerk recently and the amount of people just smoking everyone out at during that concert was .... annoying. Weed and my brain don't agree with each other so the end half of that show was nothing but torment for me because of it. Kraftwerk were great but it did actually ruin it for me having to spend most of my time from completely losing it because the drug everybody loves makes me violently paranoid. I assume that for both of those scenarios it is just a matter of time, people have always done it so it is an ok expected thing. Filming and pictures is different when there was a high cost ceiling few people did it but now everybody can and for whatever reason though I know most watching the people doing go with social media attention as appose to anything else (and they can be right just sometimes it isn't). Which I find kinda funny cause back in the early 00s for people that filmed and posted it it was always done so people who weren't there can enjoy it but that was still at that point of high cost ceiling for doing it. Alright sorry for rambling I just have many thoughts on the subject and I am a very poor writer, I am cool with a lot as long as it isn't in the way of others and filming and pictures tends to be at the bottom of my personal "annoying the fuck out of me personally at concerts" list.
I haven't been to many concerts, but for the few that I've been to, I tend to not want to record or take pictures or anything like that personally. Don't get me wrong: I have taken a few photos and videos, but I feel like it detracts from the experience. I paid to watch a good show, not to focus on getting a recording just right to watch later. I'm very in the moment when it comes to concerts. Besides, the few times I did attempt to record at a concert, the audio sounded terrible. I'd rather experience something great to remember later than have something to prove I was there. That's just me!
On making video, I think it depends on the show and the culture of the fans. With The Warning, there’s an international fan base and people really like watching video and especially live streams of the shows. So it’s very common to film a whole show and people will watch those uploads. It helps that most of these are small venues where sometimes the person with the phone is just a few feet from the stage. In this case the band is cool with recordings. Personally I prefer to experience a show mostly without the phone.
Totally unrelated question: Have you listened to the new Young The Giant EPs that are part of the upcoming album, or are you waiting patiently, not having heard any of the songs?
Most of my concert footages on my social media platforms are usually coming from the band performing my favorite songs, but not all of them. For example, when I saw The Strokes live, I mostly post footages from Reptilia and Juicebox. Not the whole show. Being at the show and remembering it by memory is better than actually looking at the footages. That goes the same thing for any other form of memory that you have like Christmases and birthday parties.
I saw that some concert venues have got these packs that are supposed to hold your phones in them and keep them in there during the concert. My school got them as well (which is how I found out about it) If a place adults are supposed to go has to do something to them that people usually do with minors, that's shows a lack of maturity in some people.
when my mom went to see Jack White they did something similar! I'm hoping when I see MCR its not that bad but I only take a few pictures and record bits of my favorite songs or some of the funny banter between the bands and the audience.
I am guilty of hitting the REC button at shows haha. I always uploaded them to my Instagram story, and took millions of pictures as well, but come to find, I don't even look at or watch them! 😄 I still post videos of concert snippets on my podcast's Instagram stories as a means of sharing the name of the bands and basic networking.
5 clips of no longer than 10 seconds each maximum per concert and I never hold my phone above my own eye level. I know others will still think this is excessive but I love showing off all the shows I go to!
I use to film a lot at concerts when I was in my early teens. I film one video for each band now and I’m so much happier to be in the moment. Also Ice Nine Kills is insane live I adore them
What's on your list of good/bad concert etiquette 101? 🤔
Good: Talk about your concert experiences without putting someone down, saving seats for someone, feel free to sing and dance your heart out…
Bad: Pushing people in attempt to get closer to the stage, constantly talking during performer’s set, putting your phone up for a long period of time, booing…
Three words: No. Crowd. Killing.
I only have one rule when going to a concert: No gay sex.
This exact thing is why Silk Sonic doesn't allow phones at their shows. They want their audience to have an actual full show experience. They want to see the faces of the audience. Not thousands of iPhone cameras.
Thankfully I'm on Android so that don't apply to me
Jack White’s been doing this for a few years and his shows have become like another world.
@@LizzyVonBloom Tool too
Whenever I go to concerts, I try to take on camera my absolute favorite songs, but I couldn’t think of filming an entire concert for hours. It just doesn’t feel right to me.
That’s exactly what I do
Pictures here and there if the staging allows it but I’ll take in my favorite songs. But no filming it for the whole set.
If you're a tool fan, just a heads up they don't let footage taken at there concerts
@@Krissypoo508 i was going to comment this! i also do it, my absolute favorites i want to give it my FULL UNDIVIDED attention sing my lungs out lol but the ones i dont dig as much i allow myself to film a little to have a little memory of it. The end goal is living the moment as much as i can. Either way as Jon said I wont watch it more than once a year if lucky.
2 rules I always follow:
1.) as obvious as it sounds, if someone falls in a mosh pit, help them back up
2.) it’s okay to film parts (like 15-30 seconds of 1-2 songs an artist). There’s no need to go overboard, sticking to your phone the whole time takes the experience away
it takes the experience away FOR YOU. i personally record a lot because ive found i forget the majority of the shows i dont record at.
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Had a similar issue when I saw Slipknot this past March. The entire row in front of me were on their phones 70% of the time and I couldn’t help but get the feeling that they were more interested in showing people that they were there than actually going there and seeing one of the best metal bands on the planet.
Facts. Like I understand taking a few vids and some pics but people who sit there on their phones the entire time are so annoying
When I went to Slipknot I specifically didn't use my phone because I thought I'd drop and be a GG lmao.
I recorded a couple of times either intros or some songs for 2 or 3 shows when phones started to get "good", then realized I never looked at the recordings except for when I just got back from the show then never again. I also get tired real fast of trying to time it all and get a good shot. So I said screw it and just be there in the moment when I go now.
I remember that Jack White even banned phones in his concerts by having the audience keep their phones in locked pouches once they entered the venue.
Just went to his show last night, I really liked having no phones. Although I would have like a couple pictures of where my seat were (they were very good), I was still very engaged and it was a very great show.
Went to one of the London shows, the phone ban was a great idea, everyone seemed so in the moment and I think more artists should have this system, it makes the show feel so much more exclusive and the atmosphere is a whole different experience
Im grateful for people willing to record an entire concert though, because i know I’d never be able to meet some smaller artists
I also hate excessive yelling at concerts. I know it’s a concert of course people will yell , but I was at the Buffalo Metallica/Ice Nine Kills show and this guy behind me yelled “I love you James!” Over and over the whole show. When James hetfield was talking about suicide during fade to black he was still yelling. Still enjoyed the show (and for the record only recorded two songs from each band so I was actually present in the moment lol)
I was at a concert where the guy behind me just yelled stupid crap like that the entire time. It's embarrassing, don't know how anyone thinks like that.
I was at that show too. I think i heard that same guy. Plus people got pretty innapropriately rowdy. Bad form buffalo. Not to mention almost everyone there had a fu*kin phone obstructing my view at all times.
I was at a Steven Wilson concert where the entire encore someone shouted Free Bird. Steven refused to give in (he knew the joke though)
“If you’re looking at me through your phone, you’re not looking AT me”
- Billie Joe Armstrong
My god, seeing footage from some of the crowds at the recent Arctic Monkeys shows are actually astonishing, I’m pretty sure every single person there is holding up a phone for the entire show, I even heard that, according to people that were there, people were actually FaceTimeing during it…
I saw that too. I watched Why'd You Only Call Me When You're High and everyone was almost synced bringing their phones up. I did read that when big bands go to smaller and poorer countries, only about 20% of people are fans and the rest are just people trying to make as much money off their fame by filming, autographs, etc
I do record like snippets of my favorite songs when I go to concerts for myself cause rewatching them makes me happy. I don't get the whole recording the entire concert thing though. Like what's the point of going if you're just gonna watch it through your phone?
Right? I assume most people nowadays that record the entire concert only really do it to post on social media or to sort of prove that they were there, and even then, who is actually gonna watch it?
One of the random things people don’t think about is a height difference. I’m short so if I’m behind a tall person, they won’t let me in front of them even if they tower over me. I’ve actually gotten to the point I don’t go to shows anymore because either I want to be close or I won’t go. I know it’s not technically their issue but it would be cool if people who were taller let us shorter people see
Same here!! I can’t stand it. What the hell is the point if I’m literally just seeing heads in front of me. It sucks. I’m 5’ 3”, and I’m ALWAYS behind giants
*THIS!* I'm 5'5" so going to concerts is a pain
100% I’m 5’4 most of the times I had people cut in front that were taller then me and usually the terms are first comes first serves but there were a few nice concert goers that were taller then me see the show. I know I’ve let a few kids as well as fellow short people like me in front that couldn’t see cause it’s one of my biggest rules going. Last concert I went to was a concert I won for an album release party and still was in front but got pushed to a side for a tall person. Don’t go to concerts much anymore but have a lot of concerts under the belt.
The only concert etiquette that needs to be enforced is don’t do anything that could negatively impact other attendees ability to enjoy the show.
I've seen clips of bands and artists, like Dave Grohl berating fans at a Foo Fighters concert for having their phones out at the concert. The concert going experience has obvious reflections of what is wrong with society. Im not saying that people shouldn't take videos and take pictures. It's just apparently, people need to learn how to be decent human beings in public, because it is sad that people would much rather have 15 minutes of fame, and virility, from complete strangers than an actual campfire conversation with family at Thanksgiving.
P.s. My thing is when going to a concert, take pictures, but most importantly have ACTUAL FUN, wailing songs at the top of your lungs with what the band and/or artist is singing on stage. Engage with the band. But NEVER overuse your phone at a concert.... same thing goes for sporting events, movie theaters, etc
My concert etiquette
1: I only take about
i got the notification for this and immediately thought “why, what did i do??” until i saw it’s from Beyond ARTV 😂 glad you got to see so many great acts lately, looked like a real blast!
recently i had to unfollow Ed Sheeran on Instagram because he posts like 40 videos from different angles of concerts every single day. NO ONE IS WATCHING ALL THOSE, DUDE. everything over 5/6 stories a day is just overkill to me, i have a short attention span lmao
Also I agree with you. I've seen guys in front of me constantly posting to Facebook and getting literally no engagement. It's really dumb! You don't have to document every little detail of a show you're at, especially when people on your friends list generally don't care about the act you're seeing. It also becomes a pain to delete years of these posts when you hopefully decide to clean up your social media for a job interview. It also adds to the cringe when you look back at them years later!
This actually gave me an idea for a comedy sketch, thank you for giving me inspiration man!
As for my two cents on the topic, this may sound boomer-ish, but people who would rather live their lives through a screen than being there in person makes me glad I'm not super reliant on my phone or social media all the time.
I find it funny (not haha funny, but more so depressing) that those people types of people would often see the artist/band through the Internet, but when they decide to go see them performing live in person, they go back to seeing them on the small screen. Therefore, creating the exact same metaphorical distance between them. Especially when it comes to how concerts are priced nowadays, they paid a butt-load of cash just to show off to "everybody" and try to be the center of attention.
The whole point of going to a concert is to be a FAN, not paparazzi.
Agreed! I'm a big proponent of taking a singular shot at the beginning of the show, and then putting your phone away for the rest of the performance. Constantly questioning if what you're seeing now is better than the shot you took a few minutes ago. Or, just take none at all! I look back at my concert singular photos regularly, but I'm sure if I took several or many photos of each concert, I've never revisit them at all.
I saw MCR a few months ago and there were so many people recording every song. I took a clip from the start of Black Parade and the bridge of Im Not Okay but I feel like it is so much rewarding to enjoy your time in the moment, you cant enjoy the songs when on your phone.
If I were running a concert, my strict policy for the concertgoers is to either use the phone to only take pictures, keep their eyes on the concert, and not update their Facebook or Twitter on a specific band or artist on a minute-by-minute basis. If you can't be courteous and considerate to other concertgoers, then I don't want you at the venue that I'll be performing in, if I get any gigs. I know that would alienate several patrons, but that's to ensure the enjoyment of the concert from other people. This policy is inspired by a similar policy from a cinema chain called the Alamo Drafthouse.
Yeah I agree, just use common sense and don’t be an asshole with your phone lol. I gotta disagree with the people who say that recording during concerts makes it a less intimate experience tho.
I feel like it’s just a boomer take, like “these darn phones are messin up the youth!!!!” Obviously some times people are assholes and can mess up other peoples experiences if they’re not careful, but just because you record a video doesn’t mean you don’t care. We just finally have soemthing that most people can afford that also happens to be able to fit in your pocket and record things.
When I’m down, I always look at the videos I took during concerts because those are my favorite moments. I’m able to still be present at the concert and take a few mins to record every now and then.
Just don’t be an ass lol and I think using your phone won’t be such a big deal.
It's not just Boomer talk. I'm an old musician. Go look at any great concert from the mid-90s or before, when there were no cell phones. You see the audience is engaged like never since. When you are handling your phone you're only paying half attention to the actual performance. The performance is gone while you are trying to fuck with your camera. Your attention is not even really there.
@@216trixie but that’s just your perspective. I’ve talked to a lot people who also record videos and they say it doesn’t take away from the show for them at all. I camp out for concerts so the people im with at least are usually really dedicated to these bands and having videos means a lot to them. Also when I listen to music, these certain parts where im like “oh shit I need to see this live” and I record them as well. Everyone has their ways but I think as long as everyone is respectful with what their doing, I think it’s okay.
Peopel have different perspectives just like how people experience a concert differently. Just don’t be an ass about it that’s all I gotta say lol
Oh I meant to say that, to you it may seem like someone can’t focus on the show and record but for me and others it’s possible and not really a big deal. Just different perspectives/ experiences.
216trixie, yep, many old shows were a collective experience hearts, guts, and minds in coherence mentally and physically, a bit like a flock of birds that all move at once. Now with cellular distraction in visual, audio, and spiritual realms it is fragmented and dissonant. Watch an old stones show filmed in a small venue, or deep purple show. All the people were present and a few pro camera persons trying to stay out of the way of the performance. It may never be the same again.
@@chloethepooh123 " I’ve talked to a lot people who also record videos and they say it doesn’t take away from the show for them at all" Good for you, I guess? We know it doesn't take anything away from you people, but the problem is that it takes away from other people at the concert and often times the artists themselves.
I'm not a boomer, but I just don't get the point of filming a small snippet of a song on your phone during a live show. When you raise your hand from the crowd to film the stage the end result looks like dogshit and it sounds like dogshit. Good memories I suppose.
Back in the day bootleggers at least tried to find a good angle to film from while also trying to make sure that the audio didn't sound like a crusty asshole.
Thank you for saying this, Jon. I’ve been to about 200 shows and here’s my recommendation for my fellow concert goers. Shut the eff up during the show!!!! Why go to a concert and talk to your friend the whole time? I beg of you all, please. Watch the show and talk all you want after the show, not during the show. Thank you for indulging this cranky old man.
Whenever I’m at concerts I always take videos. But it’s always the the first minute or so of maybe my favorite songs, then I’ll put my phone away and enjoy the rest of the song. If I’m close, I might also get more videos or pictures of cool or unique moments, and I actually do go back and rewatch videos I’ve taken of some of the best shows that I’ve ever been to pretty often, because I actually do kinda cherish some of the memories I’ve made. Sometimes I post on my snap story, and sometimes I don’t. Whenever I do, it’s always a short clip of each band that I see. Last week I saw Alice in Chains, Breaking Benjamin, and Bush, and I didn’t even think to put AIC on my story, even though I did put Bush and Breaking Benjamin on my story, and AIC was the band that I was most excited to see. When I was at the Hella Mega tour last year, I took so many pictures and videos because Weezer and Green Day are my 2 favorite bands, and seeing them on the same night was incredible. Next month some friends and I are going to Firefly fest in Delaware, but we only bought one day passes for the day that MCR is headlining because most of the bands we want to see are also playing that day. I decided that I’m gonna go back the next day alone because Green Day is heading, despite not caring much for the other bands on the lineup, and rewatching my Hella Mega tour videos is what convinced me do do so.
I tend to record a 10-15 second vid for my IG and that’s about it when it comes to using my phone a concert unless I take a pic to post for later on.
I'm only 17 and I'm fortunate enough to already say I've seen bands like Metallica, Green Day, Weezer, Slipknot, and more but I feel like my dad taught me from his concert experiences to enjoy the moment. He told me "You only get one experience at this show ever. It'll never be the same whether you watch it on your phone or UA-cam later" and I feel like that's what most people but especially my generation should learn
Cool new look by the way. I was at a Red Hot Chili Peppers concert at MetLife Stadium and a guy next to me was live blogging and streaming throughout much of the concert. I wasn’t bothered by it, but while I try and record some stuff for personal playback, I also try and soak in the moments. Sometimes I record and close my eyes while doing both at once. But being plugged in the entire way is excessive. I barely engage in social media anymore and it’s better than constantly being trapped in that rabbit hole.
This reminds me of two musicians who have very strict rules with cell phones at concerts. One is Jack White, who does what a few stand-up comedians do and has his audience put their phones in a Yondr pouch before the show so they can be in the moment with the music and not play on their phones. If you want to use your phone, you step outside and have a staffer unlock the pouch, but you have to put it back before you re-enter. That happened when I saw the Raconteurs (one of Jack's side-bands), and I'm positive it'll happen with Jack's upcoming tour. I'm not sure if other musicians actively do the Yondr pouch thing, but I at least know Jack does.
The other is Maynard James Keenan, who puts things throughout the shows for all 3 of his bands that you're prohibited from using your phone period at the show. There were signs all over the place about that when I saw TOOL right before the pandemic, saying you'd be removed from the venue if you had your phone out during it. I've also heard stories of something similar at Perfect Circle and Puscifer shows... with people actually getting ejected from them. Now, with some TOOL shows, he apparently does a thing where he'll let you take pictures/record the very last song (I'm not sure if he does that for the others too), but he's apparently very strict with the phone thing too.
I live in Canada far from Toronto which is basically the only place most artists go when they come here. The only way I can see live shows is via recordings on UA-cam
The people recording entire shows are doing gods work
I walked a fine line of concert etiquette the first time last weekend for The Weeknd concert; I admit I have slightly extended the video recording for my favorite songs, plus Abel’s little talk about the red suit jacket (which he declared he would never wear again after the concert), so I think as long as you have a plan of songs (say 3-4 songs) from the set list you’d like to remember and give it at least 30 seconds to a minute to record, that’s enough to give me time to experience the show phone free *
*this is my first concert in like 10+ years so I’m still a novice and will adapt for future concerts
I record 30 seconds or so of my top 2 favorite songs & at my favorite part of the song & take a picture every few songs. I feel like everyone already spends so much time on their phone every day. So I wanna have fun & remember the special events. I don't wanna look back & only remember what it looked like through my phone. You miss so much doing that.
In October 2021 I went to my 1st post covid show & it turned out being the best I'd ever been to. My favorite band member when scanning the crowd stopped & stared directly into my face for what felt like awhile but was probably only 3 seconds & if I had been on my phone I wouldn't have that memory & would have missed so many others from that night.
You are very right about this discussion I agree people have become more immune to their cell phones and it’s really rude to hold their phone up so that the people behind them can’t see and yes it’s also true that not very many people get views on their videos of their experience at a concert they attend and yes I’m guilty of taking videos of the concerts I attend and yes I do post them on social media but I also wanna keep the video so that I have something to go back and say I attended this concert that I had fun at and it puts a smile on my face watching the videos I frequently go back to
My rule of thumb is just one video, nothing too long, something to capture the memory for myself and flex on Instagram, and then I usually keep it away for the night
I went to a Chris Isaak concert a few weeks ago, and cellphones were to be turned off during the show (theater policy). However, Chris allowed everyone to take a moment to snap a picture or record a video, which was a really generous thing for him to do.
This is how concerts should be handled IMO, especially in a standing crowd or small theater setting. Stadium concerts are a much better place for phone filming, as those behind you are slightly higher up. Even then, I'd keep the filming short.
BTW the show was great, and he still has a ton of passion at his age.
Some etiquette points I’ve picked up on from personal experiences - don’t bring your entire sleepover backpack with laptop into the crowd, don’t consistently heckle at any given moment of silence & just don’t - don’t ever intentionally touch someone to try disturb them whilst enjoying the show unless it’s for a valid reason like dropping something or needing space etc.
Had some dude tickle my armpit once at a pierce the veil concert whilst enjoying the show & it made me insanely conscious of raising my arms in the crowd, sounds dumb but he was trying to show off to his girlfriend n it annoyed the crap out of me
My general thing is that I'll take a selfie or two before the show starts, and I'll record a short clip from any songs I really love, maybe even the majority of it if it's a particular favorite, but my personal rule is that I won't watch the show THROUGH the phone. I press record and look at the screen for a sec to make sure the angle is okay and then I leave it and watch the stage with my own eyes.
As you can imagine, that footage often doesn't end up looking too great, but like you said, I really will only watch it occasionally. But any recordings I take really are only to remember it by. I hardly ever post about personal events and stuff like that on social media. I'll talk about it to some friends on Discord, usually just saying how great a show was after the fact, but I never really post anything.
It's sad how people are willing to spend up to hundreds or even thousands of dollars to go to a concert just to spend the whole time on their phones recording. Not only does that take you out of the moment but it also creates a barrier between you and the artist. As a muscian, it definitely takes something out of a performance when I look into the crowd and all I see are statues with their phones up. I would much rather see people dancing or moving around than filming the performance any day. Just enjoy the show and be happy with the memories, a few pics or vids here or there is fine, but please don't be phone zombie.
Yeah years ago when I was younger I used to be exactly like this but as I’ve gotten older especially by this point, I’ll get one long snap or video of each band and that’s it. Just one and then I call it a day and enjoy the show. But especially for bands like rage against the machine who haven’t toured in god knows how long because who knows if this is going to be their last tour. Instances like that when there is an artist that’s an outlier and I feel like I need to record more than one song or something. Other than that I’ll just get one for each band.
I usually take a few pictures at the beginning of a show and then put my phone down to enjoy the whole experience. Concerts can be a once in a lifetime opportunity, and especially after COVID, I really just want fully engage with the shows.
Personally, whenever I'm at a concert I just put my phone in my pocket and record audio for it, this way I can fully experience the show myself, not bother anyone else, and also have something to remember the show by! Sometimes I take a video if it's a song I have a really special connection with, but for rare occasions.
I never do videos of concert, but i appreciate when someone do it in hd with a good sound and publish on youtube.
Hey - did you go to that concert?
Yeah!
How was it?
Beats me. I was too busy filming, talking, texting, & tweeting to actually experience it. tavi.
When I go to shows, I take a few pics of each band that is playing. But that is about it. About half of them turn out decent enough to keep and share.
2013, at The Killers show I was lucky enough to get 2nd row... unfortunately a very tall guy in front of me decided to record THE ENTIRE SHOW with his ipad... I never found the video on youtube or anywhere else.
Also, I think it's good manner not to fall asleep during the opening act, as I witnessed this year during the Pixies concert, opening for Pearl Jam, where a woman beside me decided to sit down and sleep on very hot concrete because she wasn't interested. Ahaha
I'm just not into taking videos with my phone in general. When I first got a decent digital camera, and later an iPod Touch/iPhone with reasonable enough video quality, I enjoyed the novelty of being able to record entire songs at concerts I went to, but I'd generally save it for the smaller shows (when the sound would be more stripped down and there wouldn't a huge audience hollering through the entire thing), and even then I'd only record one or two songs that were personal favorites and/or rare setlist appearances. I generally figure these days that if a song's popular, there are going to be TONS of amateur videos of a band playing it, and even if it's a deep cut, someone will probably put a better version of it up on UA-cam than I ever could with my crappy several-generations-old phone and shaky hands. So I mostly just take photos at what I think are iconic moments during the performance, I'll put the phone away for long stretches of time in between, and 90% of what I get is gonna turn out to be crap later, so I'll post the few pictures that actually turn out halfway decent to Facebook for (if I'm lucky) the three or so friends who might actually care that I saw a certain band, and dump the rest. If a band or a venue does not want phones out during the show, though, I'll respect that.
As annoying as it is when you see people with their phones recording EVERYTHING, the flipside of that is that it's nice to go on UA-cam and find out how a band pulls off a song that you really like live, whether they change up the arrangement, how it went with a special guest at a certain show, that sort of thing. Or if you're really lucky, you'll find old (and actually watchable) footage of a show you were at years ago. That came in handy not too long ago in a Facebook group where we were each posting lists of favorite songs from concerts we'd actually been to, and if possible, including links to live footage instead of just the still frame "videos" of the studio versions.
I see this all the time at not just concerts, but every sort of live event. I've even seen people do this stuff at movie theaters, which is even more annoying since you're asked multiple times to put your phone on silent or turn it off. Anyway, I might take a couple of pictures when I'm at show, but that's it. Otherwise, my phone is in my pocket and I'm enjoying myself. I feel like those people who just watch the show through their screens are not only distracting other people, but they're also just wasting their own money. They're depriving themselves of the full experience. People just don't want to remember things anymore. It's all about the social media clout and it's pretty depressing.
Ugh, people doing that at movie theaters makes me so mad
That's why I've been off social media (for the most part) for years now. When I go to a concert I don't even take out my phone unless someone is texting me.
I usually take up to ten pictures during a concert. But never would I record whole songs. I want to enjoy the show.
I always take Eleven! It’s one more than 10! When you are at 10, take one more, pushes it over the top! So I got that going for me!
@@latentsea nahh, can't handle 11. 🤣
When I go to concerts yes I do video my favorite songs on my phone but I always look at the artist while they are performing without looking at my phone. I always jump around and sing while recording too and always try to let smaller people go in front of me at smaller shows or try to move my phone in a way that doesn't block someone else's view. I usually just put it above me but not to where it's blocking a view for someone else.
I was at a $uicideboy$ show last night. I only filmed a couple clips for a couple songs but the most important songs, I sang every lyric without my phone. You can imagine how many phones were out. But concert etiquette, at least for me, mainly falls under moving forward because a lot of us had to keep our spots and we were there through 4 openers in 3 hours and people were like "can I move forward? I gotta meet up with my crew." And I hadn't seen them at all until half way through $uicideboy$ set. That is what mainly urks me at shows.
What’s the point of going to a concert if I can’t record and post about it 10000000000 times during it.
If no one sees me do it did I do it at all?
i mean i can get wanting to capture some parts on video for the memories…. but having your phone out for literally the ENTIRE concert?? how can you even thoroughly enjoy the concert with a phone in your hand for the whole thing
Went to see ADTR and The Ghost Inside in Reading PA. The crowd was by far the worst I have ever seen, anywhere. I was in the pit, which was dumb and I barely broke a sweat if at all which was a first. Alot of people had to record ADTR as if they were the first.
Even with my kid, friends, and family, it's not about constant photos to show others or get lost in a cloud. Live for the moment and the now. Jump on someone and crowd surf, bounce around, have fun. It's seemingly dimming down over the years little by little. I've seen well over 300 bands in little life.
I saw Deftones live for the first time this summer. My brother asked me to film it a bit so he could just catch a glimpse of the show. I was so excited for the whole time i forgot to take my phone out at all (it's one of my top five bands) so i looked for clips on YT, and surprisingly only found two, by the same uploader also.
I can say i have never been happier about not finding much footage of something. And on one of the videos it even caught my friend in the pit during 7 Words! 😄
Went to a Jack White concert recently where no phones were allowed and it was honestly refreshing
Went to my first concert 3 days ago and i was so lucky that i was in the front. If I recorded something, I didn’t have to put my phone over my head. Did end up recording small clip of every song but its just for remembering those moments. I agree with you, living in the moment is a way better concert experience.
There's a whole subgenre of concert etiquette on heavy music (on smaller venues) that I think it's really interesting and it's a good example to borrow from. The whole "If someone falls down, pick'em up" or "dont raise your elbows too much on a circle Pit" are probably products of years of violent incidents and injuries that passed through generations as some sort of culture of it's own, so nowadays most people that are aware of those rules, are also pretty fine with following it. I believe that the cellphone recording thing will follow similar steps from now on. As these rules are being written, some years from now they will be just normal concert behavior for most.
I went to comic con to see the SpongeBob panel and got to talk to some voice actors from fairly odd parents and SpongeBob. Mr. Carlos(voice of mr. Crocker) and Mr. Bill (voice of Patrick star) were very nice humans. I didn’t want to film this magical experience and I’m glad that I didn’t 😭😭!!
It's normal to post about going to see a band on social media - I've actually managed to find friends who are also attending that way - but posting constantly about it and taking long videos are actually going to rob you of enjoying the experience first-hand, which is always going to be more fun than watching it back on your phone. I take the odd short video at gigs but having enough battery power in case I need to make a call on the way home is a lot more important!
I was at that concert too. Guy next to me filmed the entire show blurry and not even holding his phone sideways. Tool kept bumping into me as well.
My concert etiquette with taking pictures or videos is a little out there. Generally, when I go to a concert, I like to take one or two videos of my favorites from that band, and I mean full videos. I know there are many people out there that will take videos they’ll never watch again but I find myself going back to my videos a lot. And, 90% of the time, the videos are for myself, as I rarely post them. If I am fortunate enough to see the same band multiple times, I don’t need more videos of the same song, so I naturally hold my phone up less. That, plus a couple of pictures is enough for me, as I get a lot of the experience of a concert, plus nice memories to go back and look at again.
With all that in mind, I am also guilty of taking too many videos at the occasional show, but even then, I’m not holding my phone up for the entire show, maybe just a couple extra songs or just small clips.
Lots of people will take way too many videos of a show, but generally it doesn’t disturb me much, unless they’re severely blocking my view or they’re literally recording the whole concert.
And as an extra note, I like being in general admission, but I don’t like mosh pits. Despite that, if a mosh pit “ruins” a video, or I can’t bother to take a video because of one, so be it. I can’t stop them and they’re enjoying the show in their own way.
Basically, I don’t ever want to be the asshole at any concert, but at the same time, I cherish the ability to look back at some of my own videos of my favorite shows, so regarding this whole situation, I’m torn somewhere in the middle.
Go to a Tool show, their very very strict no phone policy (I personally think) is actually a fucking blessing. Forces you to be in the moment, forces you to pay attention, take it all in, really feel it and enjoy it and actually remember it in your head once it's over without having to lean on recorded clips
"Positive affirmation doesn't matter". Also, "Hit that like button". Haha, I love your channel, but I found that very funny.
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I'm going to see MCR this month. I neverrr thought that would be possible for me. That being said, I'm going to record a few snippets to save, but most of the time I'm going to be wayyyy into it
My kids yelled at me for using my phone while on a trip so I haven’t used it whenever we go some where. They said I need to fully engage with the moment, so that’s what I do. I guess the memories are enough.
My wife and I said this last week when we saw Kendrick in Brooklyn. We were up high, whole upper bowl going nuts and dancing and singing. But you look at the ppl with floor seats and they're just standing there with phones out for 75% of the show. It looked like ppl danced more for Baby Keem than they did Kendrick, it was super weird.
Personally I try to record the opening of the concert but I make a point to not watch the opening through my phone. If the camera work is shoddy, oh well. After that I record maybe a favorite chorus or verse for 30 seconds but after that my phone is away the whole time.
I'm an avid roller coaster enthusiast, and I unfortunately see people doing this on moving amusement rides from time to time. Of course, it's worse on amusement rides because unsecured phones and cameras are safety hazards, especially on rides that have rapid changes in speed and direction like roller coasters, and are thus not allowed on most rides. Of course, some kids choose to ignore the rules and try to take videos and selfies on moving roller coasters. I've had a couple rides where I had to tell kids who were sitting in front of me to put their phones away for the reason specified above.
At times when almost every single band or artist barely ever come to Malaysia to play for us, and when I couldn't afford a plane trip just to watch them play in any parts of the world, I started to appreciate the fans and concert-goers for sharing the experience on UA-cam a little more. Especially those that actually recorded their entire tracklist with good quality videos and audios.
But at the same time, if I were to get the chance to go to one (at all), well I would be lying if I say I would never pull my phone out and record. But I don't think I would pull my phone high up until it ruins the view for others.
I've seen one comment here where a band doesn't allow phones at their shows, and if it's within the rule, I have no problem comply to it and hope that my memory won't fail me.
In the end, it's all about manners and courtesy. If given the chance to record, try not to be an s/o to others that want to enjoy the shows without seeing those phones sticking out like sore thumbs. If there are rules apply to this matter, then we should at least respect the rules.
Like two greatest music duo said: Be excellent to each other~!
Don't go to a concert if you'd rather be at a movie where everyone sits on their hands and claps politely. When I go to a show, I am into the show: I am up dancing and singing (not aloud, obviously) and enjoying myself. When the person behind me taps me on the should and says they can't see because I am up enjoying myself (I'm 5'2, not tall), and they are sitting in their seats, it's all I can do not to call them out their name. Try PARTICIPATING and maybe you'll have a good time too.
Billie Joe Armstrong encourages fans to keep their phones in their pockets and just live in the moment during their shows. Ironically, i didn't heed his words because i missed out on getting Tré's drumstick because i was too focused on taking a shot of the band taking a bow. There was confetti on the ground and people started scrambling at my feet. I was like, "calm down. It's just confetti, people." The guy next to me said, "and a drumstick...." as he points over at the girl on my other side, clinging to said drumstick. Sadness and regret filled my heart. Awesome performance, but i left disappoonted because of my own mistake
Like Billie Joe says, :You get the consolation prize"
Imo, the best way to use your phone at a concert, and without bugging anyone, take one picture, and then enjoy the rest, no need to take 5 min videos that nobody will actually watch, and make more memories with just ONE good picture, it's all you need to remember the whole show
DUDE! I WAS AT THAT METALLICA SHOW TOO!!!
Nice!! Great show
Blond Jon! I have a huge rule against having your phone out a the entire time at a concert and I usually try to pass that along with whoever I'm going with, typically they have a similar mindset so it's not usually a big deal. The only time you'll see my phone raised in the air is when it's being used as a makeshift lighter. Another big rule I have is to actually stand up and dance a little for the openers, like I understand conservating energy for the headliner, but I feel like its rude to not give the opening acts any type of reaction or if the crowd's being a real dick. It's understandable if you don't know every word or don't wanna scream your head off, but to just dance a little. Like I remember back in 2018 when Paramore was touring on After Laughter and they had Soccer Mommy and Foster the People open for them and Hayley having to make some kind of announcement to respect the opening band while Soccer Mommy was performing.
i mean, i think people mostly record to watch it later and just see it again and remember the great time they were having, and its more about that its thiers perspective, hearing thier excitement when a special song came up etc. At least thats why i am going to record my first concert, i hope the majority of people dont really think they are going to get famous for these clips and just want to remember special concert forever
just to clear up, of course dont record the whole damn thing, just what is really special
I was at the same show! Thing is, what is the point of social media if not to showcase your interests/accomplishments. I agree that taking excessive videos and posting is annoying but one or two per concert I don’t think is a huge deal.
The only time I take videos is usually on songs that my friends want to see. I ask a couple buddies in DM's if there's any songs they want and then I send it to them after the show. As of late there hasn't been many video requests so I can just enjoy myself and just indulge in the moment.
I completely agree with you Jon. I used to be the type to record every song at a concert, till I realized I wasn’t really experiencing it. Nowadays I might take a 10 second clip of my fav song. Other than that, the phone stays in my pocket
The return of concerts only made it worse
Yep…
So I found that some of my favorite songs are ballads which support flashlight lighting or flames, and if I really like the song, I will record the song - while having my lighting on. The footage is absolutely horrible but even the audio gives me chills most times.
But aside from that I agree with many people before me in the comments - I mostly record only snippets that I really like or that are different from the studio version and keep and yes, even watch them again from time to time.
Doesn’t Metallica post live footage of many of their concerts right here on UA-cam? So why would I want to see someone’s grainy footage that has 6 views when I can see something professionally shot to relive the experience?
Your that guy that goes "you guys know what I mean" and everyone is standing there like🤷 lol
It seems like people are so worried about getting likes that they completely take for granted the experience of just being in those moments and enjoying the concerts.
One show that I went to, I made sure to record a few parts of the concert, but the audio and film was bad because I was still jumping and bopping to the music ☠
Love the AFI shirt
I’ve seen Weezer 4 times and the only time I recorded them was during “wrestle w/ Jimmy”. Everything else, especially like the solo in Say It Ain’t so, gets my full undivided attention lol.
I am one of those people that does lots of filming, but I always keep the phone in front of my chest so it doesn’t block anyone else’s view or my own, I make sure I watch it live and never through the screen and I am always jumping around, dancing, singing, screaming my lungs out throughout and the videos reflect that. It’s purely for myself to remember because I have bad memory and the concerts I don’t have photos or videos from, I don’t remember at all which is such a shame. A lot of the time I’m more lively than most the people around me despite the fact I’m filming. I know people are judging me for filming lots, but I just try not to care and not to block anyone and hope no one is a dick about it
i like to take 10-30 pics throughout the show (especially Green Day because of all the different background changes and the costumes, and all the poses Billie does), and a few clips from certain songs, but I couldn't imagine staring at the screen the whole show, or even a fourth of it.
I DO like having a handful of people recording though, especially for bands that hardly post videos of their shows. Like the people recording really good quality videos of the recent MCR shows have been awesome. And I like those fan edits of the multi-cam shows (again, the MCR Shrine show is a good example). But not everyone in the audience should be holding their phone up recording the whole show. it kills the vibe, bc the artists won't get as much energy back from the crowd, thus not giving as much energy back
Omg mcr? Lol
What really drives me crazy are all the boomers that feel the need to record the entire show on Facebook live. Nobody wants to see your show in 240p. Such a pain in the ass when I’m stuck behind a guy with his phone in the air the whole time recording just for his Facebook friends to ignore it.
I think its bests to take photos at a concert where its a good photo op or something. I agree just put down the phone and enjoy the show.
i'd almost be inclined to say "no phones allowed" but that makes it sound like a classroom
Personally I think it's acceptable to throw objects at people filming constantly and blocking your view at concerts. Bonus points if you manage to knock the phone out of their hands!
My general thought is I am cool as long as you don't get in the way of others. Like my dad likes to record songs here and there for him it is more on the memories/remember (he has never posted anything he has taken kinda funny really). But anyway sometimes he "bullies" me into doing a song here and there so I do my best to make sure I am not blocking others view or bothering with the flash no real point to it. I actually have one of the pictures I took as a desktop background now lol, if I do post something it is more one picture and the day after (or several I don't pay much attention to social media) and more as an excuse for me to talk about the concert again.
Anyway ya just as long as you are not in the way of other people I am fine.
Side thought I find it interesting that when talks of being in the moment of the show people never bring up drinking or drugs. Like I had gone to shows where my sister was not only so drunk she didn't remember them at all but I had to carry her back to the car. I saw Kraftwerk recently and the amount of people just smoking everyone out at during that concert was .... annoying. Weed and my brain don't agree with each other so the end half of that show was nothing but torment for me because of it. Kraftwerk were great but it did actually ruin it for me having to spend most of my time from completely losing it because the drug everybody loves makes me violently paranoid.
I assume that for both of those scenarios it is just a matter of time, people have always done it so it is an ok expected thing. Filming and pictures is different when there was a high cost ceiling few people did it but now everybody can and for whatever reason though I know most watching the people doing go with social media attention as appose to anything else (and they can be right just sometimes it isn't). Which I find kinda funny cause back in the early 00s for people that filmed and posted it it was always done so people who weren't there can enjoy it but that was still at that point of high cost ceiling for doing it.
Alright sorry for rambling I just have many thoughts on the subject and I am a very poor writer, I am cool with a lot as long as it isn't in the way of others and filming and pictures tends to be at the bottom of my personal "annoying the fuck out of me personally at concerts" list.
I haven't been to many concerts, but for the few that I've been to, I tend to not want to record or take pictures or anything like that personally. Don't get me wrong: I have taken a few photos and videos, but I feel like it detracts from the experience. I paid to watch a good show, not to focus on getting a recording just right to watch later. I'm very in the moment when it comes to concerts. Besides, the few times I did attempt to record at a concert, the audio sounded terrible. I'd rather experience something great to remember later than have something to prove I was there. That's just me!
On making video, I think it depends on the show and the culture of the fans. With The Warning, there’s an international fan base and people really like watching video and especially live streams of the shows. So it’s very common to film a whole show and people will watch those uploads. It helps that most of these are small venues where sometimes the person with the phone is just a few feet from the stage. In this case the band is cool with recordings. Personally I prefer to experience a show mostly without the phone.
Totally unrelated question: Have you listened to the new Young The Giant EPs that are part of the upcoming album, or are you waiting patiently, not having heard any of the songs?
I’ve heard wake up and nothing else. Waiting for the full thing.
Most of my concert footages on my social media platforms are usually coming from the band performing my favorite songs, but not all of them. For example, when I saw The Strokes live, I mostly post footages from Reptilia and Juicebox. Not the whole show. Being at the show and remembering it by memory is better than actually looking at the footages. That goes the same thing for any other form of memory that you have like Christmases and birthday parties.
I saw that some concert venues have got these packs that are supposed to hold your phones in them and keep them in there during the concert.
My school got them as well (which is how I found out about it) If a place adults are supposed to go has to do something to them that people usually do with minors, that's shows a lack of maturity in some people.
when my mom went to see Jack White they did something similar! I'm hoping when I see MCR its not that bad but I only take a few pictures and record bits of my favorite songs or some of the funny banter between the bands and the audience.
I am guilty of hitting the REC button at shows haha. I always uploaded them to my Instagram story, and took millions of pictures as well, but come to find, I don't even look at or watch them! 😄
I still post videos of concert snippets on my podcast's Instagram stories as a means of sharing the name of the bands and basic networking.
5 clips of no longer than 10 seconds each maximum per concert and I never hold my phone above my own eye level. I know others will still think this is excessive but I love showing off all the shows I go to!
And you're part of the problem.
I use to film a lot at concerts when I was in my early teens. I film one video for each band now and I’m so much happier to be in the moment. Also Ice Nine Kills is insane live I adore them