Lackawanna Cut-Off - Part 11: Sidings on the Cut-Off
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2025
- This video is about Lackawanna Cut-Off rail line in northwest New Jersey, and the 9 locations where passing or freight sidings were located on the line. We'll also make our first visit to Greendell (and the location of its sidings) during this series, as well as making first-time visits to Roseville, Blairstown and Hainesburg sidings where Chuck will share some of his research on these long-gone facilities. Finally, we'll go in search for the site of a 70,000 gallon water tank located in the middle of nowhere.
Love this channel, Chuck. It’s important to have great documentation of the history of the Cut-Off. Big thanks to you!
Thank YOU!
Ahhhhh! Im addicted to these videos.
Excellent video
Thanks Chuck 👍
Thank YOU for watching!
I want to say to Chuck, the depression that happened in the 20th century, had a effect on railroads. Anyone who is 65 or older would know that. And also the burning of the Poughkeepsie rail bridge had an effect on eastern coast railroads. (1974)
Yes, agreed.
I remember hearing about reopening the cutoff in about 1999. Now almost 20 yrs later the red tape and environmental concerns are making completion move at a snails pace. I can't wait to see it in operation.
Happy to see you figured out the microphone/wind issue. Also, photos and maps were very helpful. Regarding siding placement: sidings for slow freight would make the most sense where the grade was particularly steep, ie, where the freights were going the slowest. I bet if you check this against the gradient map, the placement (and seemingly redundant number) of sidings might make more sense.
The ruling grade was 0.55% and that occurs in a number of places. The sidings were kind of evenly spaced apart. I think they mostly ended up mostly as storage space as much as passing sidings. Hainesburg Siding ended up with bad-order cement cars; Blairstown Siding was torn out in the 1920s; Johnsonburg Siding ended up storing coal cars; Roseville Siding stored overflow cars for Port Morris and was torn out in the early-1930s; and Greendell Siding was the only siding to make it into the Conrail era.
I remember crossing a road bridge at Greendell while riding with my dad as a kid in the early 90s and seeing a signal bridge right next to the road bridge. Years later when I could drive I returned to where I remembered that bridge being only to discover it was gone along with the signals. I actually missed the station at first too since it was so overgrown.
Always look forward to new episodes.. Being born in 1975 sucks...
Yeah, but look on the bright side...you'll get to see stuff in the future that some of us may not live to see.
As I recall, there was a stub end siding just east of Roseville Tunnel that was used to store a tunnel maintenance car. Don't know if this was part of the original eastbound track that was left in place when the tunnel was single-tracked and centered. Bob Bahrs?
Interesting.
Great video from charlie (chuck ) walsh from Kearny nj
Charlie was my dad's name. Rather than be called "junior" (although I am a Jr.), I got Chuck instead. A search on the name shows that it's more common than you might think. Glad you enjoyed the video.
Looking at Google Earth it looks like the station structure and creamery ruins were standing until between 2007 and 2008 at the Johnsonburg station area.
After 1958 single-tracking, they left Slateford and Greendell with passing sidings that were formerly the westbound main? Then they removed Slateford and shortened Greendell to 1.5 miles so by 1970's when traffic came back, there was only one place to pass between (new) West Port Morris and Slateford Jct.?
I love these videos..... but can someone tell me what song that is in the intro
Wait for the War - Spencer Albee
on the top chart at 2:29 I assume the number on parallel to the line is the gradient but does it mean that the 29 and 26 and so on is a .29% and a .26& Gradient? It's confusing because west of Johnsonburg the line stays level but there is a number 5. would appreciate any feedback anyone has on depicting that chart. Thanks
Chuck, I wish you'd edit your comments a bit tighter, but I very much appreciate you posting this fascinating history. I'd also like to see more of the ROW at each location. For example, are those Jersey Barriers now blocking the ROW to the east? A shot of those would be good. That said, in 1993, when the rip-out of the rails was fairly fresh (and there were no Jersey barriers), my wife and I entered the ROW at Greendell Station, then essentially a concrete shell, and drove eastbound the site of the Andover station over the remaining ballast. I don't know how my Honda Civic did it (stick shift, perhaps!), but it made it in fine form. On a later visit, the station had been converted into a private home (I think); and still later, the overpass was gone and the station was again abandoned as you show it.
Countrypaul, not really sure by what you mean by editing my comments "a bit tighter". Be interested in your thoughts on this.
You kind of ramble a bit, which I get as part of your charm, but perhaps working from notes might lead to a tighter narrative. I am nonetheless grateful that you have taken the time to create and post these videos and I have probably watched about half of them already - with more to come! Thank you for what is obviously a labor of love; any criticism is meant as constructive only.
I think your commentary is just fine Chuck. Keep at it.
@@Ken_in_Wisconsin I also like the way you present. More like you are talking to a friend, rather than hearing a lecture in school
Hey Chuck, was Roseville siding between Lubber Run and Wharton Fill?
Angelo, no it was east of Lubber Run, about a half-mile west of CR 605 in Byram.
Chuck Walsh Thank you. You’re doing a great job with your series and it will pay off one day. Have a happy new year and I look forward to future episodes.