Attempt to cross the Gulf Stream ends in Disaster! E186
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- We move on to Palm Beach for a quick stop before attempting to cross the gulf stream to West End, Bahamas. Unfortunately, larger than expected waves churn up our fuel tanks and cause a clog that stalls one of our engines. Of course, it was the engine that runs the stabilizers. We get the engine running again but decide that we are too frazzled to continue through the 6-8 footers against our beam. So we turn back and spend another night at Sailfish Marina in Palm Beach.
• M2 Anchor Assembly
Jesus Christ. I can’t believe you didn’t film it
A lot to learn here no prep for big seas will always end up like this,
We were fully prepped for big seas, but not the loss of an engine and our stabilizers. It looked much worse than it was. Just a failed latch on a cabinet full of glassware and provisions falling of the beds we were stowing them on.
Hey, we all were warned, spoiler alert! the channel is named
"Trying Not To Sink" Mission Accomplish Captain!
No . Disaster is not the word.stupid is.
You folks should maybe mount front and rear cameras so situations like these can be well documented and you'd be able to show us all what happened instead of us having to use our imaginations... just a thought...
I admire your determination. We just sit at anchor until we have the weather we want for gulf stream crossings. I'm 65 and I just can't a beating like I used to. The last crossing we made, the gulf stream looked like a parking lot. My kind of crossing!!
We will be crossing again in a few days. Hopefully we will get a good window, or we will spend extra days in the Bahamas.
Wished you would’ve recorded it
Hopefully you got some of the sporty seas and will post it so we can watch the snot.
Can you please turn down your background music. Some of us old boaters wear hearing aids, and we find it very difficult to understand your voices when music is constantly playing.
We once crossed the Gulfstream with 20 ft waves late November after a cold front had come through South FL. 25 years later I am shocked we survived. It was absolutely horrifying for us guys. The ladies were crying and praying as if the world was ending…lol.
Wow!
😂
I’ve experienced similar turbulence but submerged at 200 ft. Had to drop down to 400 to get away from the crazy currant .
Scary trip…. One issue, the background music is as loud and the person speaking…. So it’s very heard to hear.
Live an learn when the wind is from the North or the West it's best to stay at the dock and not the Gulf Stream.
“Stow for sea” isn’t just a fun catch phrase lol
Perhaps an RV is in your future? A lot of footage hanging out in the bars, not a lot prepping the boat for rough weather.
I'll echo that, this is future doom 🙄.. that Hat is basically an RV intracoastal boat
Did I miss the end result of your air leak in the fuel system on the stbd "? " engine. "Minor" problems can rear their ugly head when conditions are bad and put you in real jeopardy.
I know you run the boat at displacement speeds to conserve and because your not in a big rush. Do you ever run the boat at full throttle for few minutes to check performance and blow out some carbon. 2 cycle Detroits thrive on a hard run once in a while. Also if they run up to rated rpm you can comfortably run at 75-80% power for extended periods to avoid some bad conditions. Getting the boat up to its designed cruising speed can add dynamic stability and get you through somewhat rough seas in control and some level of comfort. In very rough conditions you will have to slow way down but throttling up and down and left and right with full engine response can supplement having to steer like crazy to control the boat. I find some of your approach to maintaining the boat to be a little casual for the distances you travel. I've worked on and have run different types of boats most of my life and I am a lot older then you. You can drink a couple of quarts of water after that your in trouble. Be very proactive in maintainence and be safe!
Thanks for the feedback. It turned out to be an air leak in the fuel pump. We replaced the pump (future video) and every thing runs great with no priming needed. Yes, I usually run the boat up around 1700 rpms for about 15 minutes on each run, to blow out the carbon.
High performance 8-92 engines ranged from about 575 hp to over 750 hp with electronic DDEC controls A 1990 52 Hatt
convertible that I was involved with had mechanical injectors and were rated at about 730 hp.
The DDEC engines came right after this boat and put out more power. These high performance versions don't hit there stride until well into turbo boost and tend to run less efficientl at modest cruising speeds because the big injectors don't
meter fuel fine enough midrange. You should talk to some experts and ask about installing smaller injectors if and when you need injector service. The engines will run cleaner and more fuel efficient at your cruising speeds. 1700 RPM barely blows out the carbon
with your current setup. 1700 rpm is less then 50% of your rated hp. What is rated hp and max rpm from Hatteras when the boat was launched?
Always something new to learn. I add the “not to do’s” to my list for if I ever get to experience this. In this episode I added:
1) the Gulf Stream is unforgiving
2) stowage solutions are important
Very unfortunate. Good no one was hurt. You’ve got to remember that it’s a boat, not a condo. There is a need to minimize and to be able to stow EVERYTHING. Flying furniture and appliances are dangerous! We have had loss of power in rough seas but never had the disastrous result you did. Having seen many malfunctions of electronic engine controls I prefer good old properly maintained cables!
It looked worse than it was. A cabinet door latch came undone and our glassware poured out. A few chairs fell over and the provisions we put on the beds in the unused staterooms fell to the floor. It was just a pain in the neck. We were prepared for higher than usual waves but when the engine died and our stabilizers went out we took a big roll and that cause the mess.
Well ya "tried" and ya "didn't" sink so staying true to your name guys! Looking forward to the next EPISODE! ...Roger out
Thanks for joining us!
oh dear,some one forgot about PROPER stowage befor putting to sea,ah well lesson learnt the hard way,lol
We stowed properly, but not for the loss of our stabilizers. It looked worse than it was, A latch on a cabinet full of glassware failed and a bunch of provisions rolled off the beds we were storing them on.
For your ADD subscribers, music is so annoying while you are talking.
I didn't even notice...lol
@@karaDee2363 normal people don’t notice lol. We challenged with keeping on task it’s hard lol.
Agree
Music is too loud, lower volume when talking and raise it when no talking. It's called background music but needs to be unobtrusive. -12db on your editing program.
A rule of thumb: Whatever the predicted wave heights are, expect, minamally, to experience, occasionally, double the height.
We were prepared for 5-6 footers, since the NOAA and Windy predicted 3-4. However, we were not prepared for 6-8 footers on the beam and losing our stabilizers due to a fuel clog. Ouch!
I hope all the bottle of important liquids survived and the glasses to drink out of survived as well. Glad everyone is OK.
I lost my favorite martini glass, but the liquor was all saved!
You need definite "GO NO GO" ruled just like a good pilot has and unless there is an emergency you don't violate it. Glad you guys were able to learn and recover from your ordeal.
Get-there-itis?, ha
It would probably still be a go. Definitely a go if it were just Lyn and I. We were thinking about the rest of the crew who was not as used to rough seas, plus the mess we had to clean up. The problem was not really the waves, it was an engine that died and took down the stabilizers. We are very top heavy, with a hard top and a Boston Whaler.
Not an experienced open-water Captain like you are but wondered how much of the decisions to go/ no-go take into consideration of the what ifs?
...this pilot woulda been sittin' on the ground. Applied my knowledge as a pilot to my sailing days and I'da stayed in my slip for another day or three for a good weather window for the crossing.
You know, you're really not a "captain" until you puke your guts up at lease once.
WOW... Are we going to see some of the footage from that crossing?
That was all of it.
Wow looks like that boat took a beating! Wish I could have seen a short clip from the helm of the bow thrashing through the waves. Glad you're all OK Cheers from CO
They were on the beam, so no great footage. Cheers!
I want to charter a trip to Jamaica one day with a experience captain
I don't know man, that couple might be bad juju
A good man to say, "I messed up, it's on me". Thankfully nothing worse than wounded pride and broken martini glasses, and everyone, including the parrot, is fine.
It looked a lot worse than it was. All that mess was caused by one big wave right after we lost the stabilizers. Still, it all comes down to the captain.
Recently found your channel and enjoy your videos. I have to say though, seems like.lots of repairs, lots of waiting for repairs, lots of money and lots of stress.
Those types of things tend to make it into the videos since they are interesting. In reality, 95% of our time is spent enjoying ourselves.
And no video during the actual battle?
Nope.
Please tell that woman to stop her yapping.
It happens…good stories for the future!
It certainly does!
And I've hit islands - 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That has to be the best line ever...
Yeah, you need to clean your fuel tanks out, get your fuel polished, probably add a fuel polishing system. One day you are going to end up on the rocks if you don't handle this.
We turn the tanks over every week or so, so polishing is not an answer. Cleaning is not easy, maybe not possible on these 40 year old tanks with baffles. We used the correct amount of algaecide but apparently we needed more. Our plan is to install a racor, prior to the switching valves, to catch anything before it gets into our lines. In any case, the problem went away after we ran through a tank of fuel.
I think the more the buoy bell rings in a Trying Not To Sink video the better it is going to be.
Batten down the hatches!!!😀
OMG.... my jaw dropped with the opening footage -- So glad everyone is OK!!
Even with the tenseness of the episode you still provided FOUR excellent Roger-Outs, which is really excellent -- Nice!
Please, no more near disasters like that.... smooth sailing for you!
You better not watch the next few videos then ...😁😁😁
I just wish they got video of it when it was happening.
Hoarders yacht edition
Just when you think every piece of machinery has failed……
Then it starts again at the beginning!
Been there, done that ! My port engine powers the hydraulics for my stabilizers too. I had smashed crockery, whiskey bottles, everything that was not secured came out of unlocked cabinets, closets, broken glass everywhere . I learned from that Greenhorn mistake to prepare for the worst.
Yep. We were prepared for the waves but not the loss of stabilization.
Where is this helpful link from Mantis you referred to? We have an M2 as well and I’m interested in checking it out. Thanks
Ooops!
Awesome cruising I had a similar situation on a meridian coming down from New York to Tennessee we made it safely but scared my family
It happens to all boaters eventually.
Your attempt to cross the gulf stream sounds just like our abort this weekend when running up the north east coast of the UK heading for Scotland. We left on a forecast of 0.8m to 0.9m (2ft to 3ft) swell at 4.5secs. with a 3-4bft NE breeze. The breeze was about right but we had 1.5m to 1.8m swell beam on, with also wind over tide chop. About 10mins before no return point our stb engine shutdown. This forced a return to home. We are only half the size you are, so was a little uncomfortable, and too rough to go down and fix the issue, so ran back on one engine, docking into the sea lock with only the port running. (video yet to edit.)
We always prepare for more than what is called for but sometimes the waves are a lot higher than expected. In this case, it wasn't so much the waves, but losing the engine that controls our stabilizers to fuel sludge. Our boat is very top heavy due to the hard top and the Boston Whaler.
WOW what a mess, pleased your all OK 👍👍
Just a guess.....Did you kids dock at "Shrimpers Restaurant" in Port Salerno, FL ? We always hang out there
No, never been there.
IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW …STAY AT THE DOCK … All this video does is prove you have no situational awareness!!!!!
That must’ve been Saturday Memorial Day weekend we were out there fishing all day they were most definitely 20 footers but we were in a 39 foot SeaVee Sunday was beautiful you could easily have crossed on Sunday
My brother in law was Warren Bohnsack... A legend on his boat, the "Mr. Bones." He used to call it "settling" 😂😂
I hope Lyn got some footage of the sea state, and unfortunately the camera rarely shows what is truly is like. I am glad you guy’s returned safely.😁🛫
Unfortunately, no.
Like the SS Minnow on Gilligan's Island except you were able to turn around come home ha ha haa
If you were going into rough seas, why would you not lock down the Martini glasses?
They were locked down. The latch failed. The seas were not overly rough, but we lost our stabilizers when the engine died due to a clogged fuel line.
There was a carnival ship had a huge problem too it was on the news
Huge floating apartment buildings with more sail area then a clipper ship don't do well in high wind
and rough sea conditions.
Have been in trouble parting dock lines due to high pressure from beam winds hitting the ships broadside.
Been there. Gulf Stream in rough conditions is highly unpleasant.
Never buy an old boat, so many components that are old and you’ll constantly have problems
I’m truly happy you all survived…but ocean sailing should not be a trial and error situation. No insult intended ….but you appear to be completely over your heads….poor maintenance procedures after leaving a boat ideal for six months…too much unsecured stuff in the boat o fly around including furniture and drawers which should be locked. Consider taking a few courses and read read read. Good luck I wish you all the best.
Thanks for the feedback. Actually, we have cruised to the Bahamas many times and I am a licensed captain. Unexpected weather sometimes happens, despite checking NOAA and other sites. Sometimes fuel tanks get some algae, despite using algaecide and frequent turnovers. Sometimes pumps break, etc. One thing I have learned after piloting this boat for over 20,000 miles, is that no matter what I plan for, something else will happen, and if I worry about it too much, I'll never get off the dock.
Still waiting for the "trying not to sink flag" to be offered in the merch section!
looks like the boat was vandalized by a bunch of muggers dang
We were in a small cruise ship in the Mediterranean and ran into 60 knot winds and huge swells. It was impossible to even stand up and everything was thrown about and broken. 12 hours of pure hell. You were smart to turn around and go back.
No sense in being uncomfortable!
Wow, the opening scene looked like it was shot on the SS Minnow, unbelievable!
Love the black and white pre-disaster segment.
Sometimes I get bored while editing and do something to entertain myself.
Lessons learned - luckily not written in blood.
Great channel and always enjoyed. While in Ft. Pierce there is a Navy Seal Museum that is most interesting. May you have smooth sailing and stay safe too.
Thanks for watching!
Glad you guys are ok, love the video but I had some difficulty hearing you speak over the suspenseful music.
Sorry about that. I am editing at sea without a television.
And folks that’s what is known as “One Mell of a Hess!”.
So glad you all came out OK!
the forecast was for "square waves". 4'-5' at 5 seconds. No way would I have gone out in a 50 yo boat with inexperienced crew.
4-5 foot at 5 seconds is not a problem with this boat. We have done it many times. The problem was 6-8 footers on the beam with one engine and stabilizers out. And that was just a nuisance. Once the engine was back on line we could have easily continued but the boat was a mess and the crew was frazzled so we went back.
I hope my wife doesn't come across this video until AFTER we have bought our boat!!!
Lol
😁😁😁
He’s full of excuses . . .oh, and “Roger Out”.
I have a surprising amount of fuel related issues as well which are compounded by the lousy racor design. I wish I knew how the main tank generates so much gunk. I don't think it comes from the fuel dock (I have 3 tanks - two of which feed the keel tank via a re-usable filter which does not get so gunked up from the same fuel). Anyone have a solution to this? (I have had the fuel polished via the sender port but that's too close to the pickup maybe - anyway it didn't help)
And they are not easy to clean. Ours haven't been opned in 40 years and are filled with baffles. Forunately, we run through a tank of fuel every couple of weeks and the problem goes away. Next year we are adding more algaecide to the mix.
need to cut the back ground music when talking.
Dang north winds on a cross! Glad you made it to George Town!!!
They were changing from West to south, and only 5 knots, so I wasn't too concerned. It wasn't so much the waves as it was losing our stabilizers for a few minutes. Oh, just noticed it is that no good jet fighter pilot chiming in again!😁 See, it only took me 2 weeks to get around to responding to everyone!
Um, I'm starting to see a trend in your videos...
Lake Worth inlet is my home waters. Been fishing between Lake Worth and the Jupiter inlet going on 40 years. I like to call Sailfish Marina "home of the 29 dollar fish and chips".
It is pricey there!
Time to clean out those fuel tanks. If its plugging up the genny and now you lost a motor, then your tanks are dirty,.
Genny is on a different tank. Turned out to be air in the line from not using the genny for a while. Some fuel had syphoned back to the tank. It has run great ever since.
Holy crap! You were taking some SERIOUS rolls. I know, you’re a powerboat. I have done both sail and power. Man you have to stow better. Lockers, drawers lids all should latch. With minimum non fastened furniture. It’s not a house. And don’t feel bad, believe it or not cruise ships do the same thing. I’m sure you have seen videos of cruise ships in storms. I have made lots of effort to install latches on all storage compartments. In the sailboats, so they could do a 360 roll. On power boats, in a 360 roll storage would be your last concern. Ha ha. Anyway, I know that I am being an arm chair sailor here but I have crossed the Gulf Stream dozens of times and much of the Atlantic and Pacific. And took my trawler 36 feet from San Francisco to Sea of Cortez, Mexico and back. So have learned the school of hard knocks and rolls. Love your boat and adventures. Thanks.
We always secure the vessel before going to sea. We were prepared for 5-6 footers since NOAA and Windy were calling for 3-4 footers. We were not prepared for 6-8 footers on the beam and losing our stabilizers when a clogged fuel line stopped the port engine. Thanks for watching! Cheers!
My area where I grew up. Love your channel. Check out Sebastian last place we lived before returning to NC. Captain harem’s. Was great for boat pirates loft in Stuart. Safe travels
Thanks for sharing!
25 years ago when our 1975, 60 foot Chris Craft as 20 years old, we had the same problem with fuel starvation, so we had the rear deck opened up and changed out the fuel tanks. They mount in the rear of the boat, and unlike yours and not built into the hull. To legally dispose of them in FLorida, they must be cut up. The amount of caked on bacteria that covered the entire inside of the tank, including the baffles was sickening. This boat had a very active life before we purchased her... I'm not certain that there's any way to keep tanks clean. I understand that your boat has clean out access ports in the tank.
I can only imagine what ours look like. The clean out ports haven't been opened in decades and look like they'll never come off. Plus the holes are very small.
Glad to see the bird was no worse for the wear!
Sometimes it’s better just to stay put and wait for weather instead of clearing your cabinets and cupboards 😂
We agree, and usually do. We would have been fine if we did not lose the engine that controlled the stabilizers.
@2:20, this is how drunks talk....smh
now the guy you have with you isn't he the same guy i met in Georgetown last year?
Yes, it is Joe.
@@tryingnottosink9107 tell Joe that I said hey
@@tryingnottosink9107 and Happy Father's Day Ed
Great, just the video I did not need to see. In two days I leave for St Thomas to bring a 45 ft sailboat up to Newport RI with a short stop in Bermuda. Now I'm second-guessing my decision.
Thanks for watching. We are glad you enjoy the videos! We love St Augustine!
Happy to report I survived the trip. The first leg, st.thomas to Bermuda was ruff but we survived. Bermuda was fabulous with the most friendly you could ever meet. The second leg to Newport was simply horrible, ruff weather most of the trip. Lots of 7' swells but I had my sea legs and struggled through. I think seeing your video helped prepare my for the challenge.
Too bad you didn't get it on film, I would have went viral!! you guys qot nothing??
That would have been nice!
Damn. Looks like you were in the Bering Sea in winter. Sure wish you had video of it all.
Having video would have been nice!
That's yachting in the Atlantic.
HOLY SHIT!!!!!!!!! Drink up!
Glad you all are ok. Cheers from Canary Islands 👍👍👍
Thanks 👍 Cheers!
My glass is usually half "full", but I must admit that neither the boat, crew or UA-cam is ready for this. Just my honest opinion, sorry. Not everything in life is positive.
Glad you are all ok.
It wasn't dangerous, just stressful. Thanks for watching!
5:41 4.39 per gal isn’t horrible, i remember paying 8.00 per gal on the dock in California back in 2005. 7:06 One thing about fellow boaters, they will lend a hand. 8:50 The dock bar is so cool. 10:14 Holy cow, did y’all have any booze left after that mess? Enjoy the Ride-Bell
Yes, the fuel prices have been much better this year. Still higher than pre-covid, but better. We did not lose a single bottle of booze. We learned that lesson and added a locking mechanism to the liquor cabinet. Now we plan to do it to the drinking glass cabinet as well!
Holy cow, this boat is doomed. That interconnecting of systems to port engine seems like a flawed design🤔
Wow!
You guy been having more fun lately on the dock than out on your own power 🍻
Glad you are all safe
It wasn't dangerous, just stressful. Thanks for watching!
Wow, you got a lot of shiff on that boat😂😂😂
Enough for 4 people to live at seas for three months.
Why the hell didnt you film the storm?
It wasn't really a storm, just big waves on the beam with our stabilizers off due to a clogged fuel line. It just took one 8 footer to rock the boat and make the mess.
Wow! With all your experience this was a surprise. Makes me nervous for our trip this winter. Is there certain months in the fall/winter that are better then others to go over to Bahamas?
We would have been fine had we not lost the port engine due to algae in the fuel. That engine also controls our stabilizers. May is usually a great time to go to the Bahamas. Just don't cross the gulf stream with north winds or high seas. Winter is a great as well but it is much busier, so slips are harder to get, etc.
That looked almost exactly like the interior of my 48' Chris Craft a couple months ago after a Sebastian Inlet exit, except my entire refrigerator ended up on its side with its contents quite evenly distributed all over the galley as well lol. 2-3' seas they said.... SE winds they said.... Sometimes I wonder who's working at NOAA.. Whoops... LOL
Yeah, they we calling for 3-4 footers and we got 6-8. Not a problem until the stabilizers died when the engine went down.