Bolt guns are a lot like a manual gearbox not as fast but are simple, strong, and reliable. The joy of a perfect shift or a fast bolt cycle just can't be matched with an auto
+Andy Wilderness the modern automatic has vastly improved gradually becoming more and more like a manual. Going from locking torque converters to flappy paddles and duel clutch setups. Autos are getting better at efficiency simply because they are programs for efficiency first. the computer will do a better job of keeping it in the most efficient range, hence the rise of cvts. On a strictly power in vs power out comparison a standard will win just on the fact there are less moving parts and there is no pump to drive or converter slip. The manual and bolt comes down to involvement if you want something that is the greatest and fastest have a robot do it for you, I will keep to rowing through the gears and will have a hell of a lot fun
Manuals have other advantages. Have you ever been coming down a hill and your automatic car just keeps speeding up? Manuals will maintain a certain speed going downhill depending on the gear you are in. This increases the life of your brakes, dramatically so if you live in a hilly area. There's also the matter that shifting into neutral rather than idling in drive saves gas. Manuals almost always have better gas mileage than automatics. Finally, there is always something to be said for mechanical simplicity. The only thing that typically needs to be replaced with manual transmissions is the clutch, and that's like once every 100k miles. Meanwhile, I've had automatic transmissions fail at 60k, and I mean totally need to buy a new one kind of failure. That's a 1k repair bill vs 3k+.
F1 is combination of manual and automatic shifting, I prefer manual (Yes im European) for having control over your gears but in dense cities an automatic is much easier.
WWII firearms had so much character. So many modern firearms are starting to look the same. I be there would be a pretty good market if those guns where put back into production
Ive been throwing this question around canadiangunnuts.com for quite a while now and there is apparently a company that is planning to sell their own repro k98k in original and non calibers some time hopefully in 2018. I forgot the companys name but their plans were mentioned in more than a few guns magazines.
Bolt actions are my favorite to shoot at the range. There is just something satisfying about slowing down, taking your time and shooting accurately. Plus the smooth feel of a well oiled bolt is a plus.
Also the Enfield, quote "the rear-locking lug (systems) are more weak and dangerous." A sporterized Enfield with a flawed bolt can take 15 rounds of 300 Win Mag before it gives out. Plus the advantage with rear locking lugs are that you don't have to pull the bolt as long, you just need to pull the length of the magazine. With front lugs, you have to pull a little longer because you have to clear the bolt lugs on the bolt. And I like the cock-on-close because in my opinion it lets you know your going into battery if you fight against the spring. Plus I have a stiff magazine lever spring on my Enfield and if I hit it on accident, it aint going nowhere. That issue of dropping your mags by accidentally hitting the lever is basically bad trigger discipline.
I hate how new bolt action rifles don't even come with iron sights anymore. I mean, I want a newer bolt action like a Remington 700 but I am forced to put on a scope on it.
And people say that's a cheaper/better deal than a milsurp. It's a bit like not mentioning that an economy car needs an engine overhaul, a new clutch, and a full new set of tires and wheel bearings. Hidden costs.
Immortalkalashnikov Howa sells it's 1500 .308 bolt rifle in a scout version which comes with iron sights, a 10 round magazine, and a picitenny rail, as well as a flash suppressor
When I was 17, I was the only hunter in our deer camp with a 98 Mauser with a 4x scope. All my friends had lever actions. I am 73, and have multiple Winchesters, Marlins, and Henrys that I shoot and hunt with. That said I am a bolt gun lover. The inherent accuracy of a bolt gun is hard to beat.
One of the joys of gun ownership (for the most part) is we can all have differing opinions on what the best gun is, and even resort to full blown shit-talking everyone, but in the end, we're all better off than the non-gun people, because... we have guns. :D
Love this video! Decades ago, I had a serious bolt action phase and acquired an SMLE, Mauser, M1917 and Mosin rifles in good condition when they were possible to find on the rack at your local shop. Years later, I sold all of them and focused on military semi-autos like the AR15, AK and Mini 14. But lately, in middle age, I picked up a .22 LR bolt action and I love it! It seems the milsurp bolt actions have dried up. But I may start looking at some modern bolt actions in 5.56 or .308. Be well.
The reason why the Mauser is still made today and the Enfield and Mosin aren't has nothing to do with the quality of the other guns. Rather, it has much more to do with who made which guns. Mauser was-and remains-a private company that makes guns. If a country-or even multiple countries-wanted to adopt their rifles, great! The more the merrier! When they didn't want them anymore, that wasn't a deal breaker for Mauser. As a private company, they could always sell their guns to other people, including hunters on the open market. Enfields and Mosins were made by government factories for that government's armies alone. And when those gun designs were not needed anymore, they simply stopped making them. They were never intended to be sold to civilians under any circumstances. Indeed, the first time they ever WERE offered for sale is when they were surplused out of their armies. If they were ever to be made commercially I am sure they would do well, especially in their home countries where their populations have very fond memories of them, just as Americans have very fond memories of the M1 Garand, M1903 Springfield, and m1911 pistol.
Yeah, right. I'm not shitting on the Enfield's quality, but the Mauser action is still in use because it's the best for the purposes you want in a modern bolt action. The Mauser action is stronger, safer and more reliable than any other popular bolt action, period. The Enfield is faster, but Speed is no reason to buy a bolt action nowadays. And the Mosin cut so many corners to be cheap to make, so...
No it really is down to their actions. Enfields and Mosins because of their 2 piece bolt heads wear out much faster than Mauser actions, and the Mosin actions cycle pretty roughly (yes even well made ones don't cycle as smoothly as the Mauser and Enfields actions) The Mauser action just hit a nice sweet spot between strong, reliable, simple, and smooth.
Great video Alex. I have used a ruger m77 markII for years now. The bolt is an exact copy of the Mauser. Which I love. An interesting observation I made among my hunting friends is that a lot of them don't like the 3 stage saftey. I love it, very simple
I'm a "fan boy" of the Remington model 700 and on that note, in my personal view I don't believe a 3 position safety is a necessity, but can appreciate it's fundamentals. The 2 position safety of the 700 is worked into my muscle memory and I find myself at a disadvantage using anything else. typically because the 3 position safety is always on the bolt cap, it's not in the most ideal position to easily switch off when aiming at the target. A detachable magazine is also a good feature IF you are hunting from a tree stand. makes loading and unloading quick and easy,
I'm a semi-auto guy when it comes to pretty much everything. However, I had an itch for a surplus bolt action that I scratched with a cheap M1916 Spanish Mauser I found. I thought I'd enjoy shooting it, but I was blown away with how fun that sucker is! Now I just need to find a bayonet for it...
The advantage of the Mosin is that you can manufacture five of them in the time it takes to make one Mauser and at half of the cost. Also, it almost requires more work to break a Mosin than to make one.
that sounds a lot like the 5 Sherman myth... Cost of a Mauser vs a Mosin during the war was probalby not much different as the base materials are about the same and labor was in effect bought at "discount prices"
The Mosin was cheap because of the huge surplus. The Red Army was the largest army in WWII after all. The Mosin might be cheaper and simpler to manufacture due to the push feed design than the Mauser, but it wasn't the simplest rifle in manufacture during WWII. The french MAS36 was a newer rifle designed specifically to be simple and cheap. Yet, due to low production numbers, it's more expensive than the Mosin.
The reasons for the MN are not as simple as just price.. though it was a major player. For a detailed set of reasons for it ua-cam.com/video/nqmkRZOIlfY/v-deo.html
Bolt guns really are a ton of fun! As other commenters have atated, there is something extremely satisfying about working a butter-smooth bolt quickly.
I know you hate the Mosin Nagant, but despite all the hate it'll always be the cheap, reliable rifle with the glorious x54 cartridge which puts NATO to shame. Even if it's price rises, it'll still be the cheapest masterpiece of it's class. Try finding an Enfield or Springfield for the price of a Nagant.
I've never seen a Springfield drop it's floor plate while shooting. mosins are closer to carcanos and g88 commission rifles than Mausers In terms of performance.
BigMek456 i meant the x51. And while it might not be suited for magazines as a rimmed cartridge, it's adapted in the Russian Army via things like the curved SVD magazine, and belt feed.
Your daily reminder that the Mosin action has not in fact "gone out of style" but is still in use with the Finnish army to this day moreover Molot is making new production rifles based on the Mosin action. Regardless of what Alex C from tfb tv says about the Mosin, it's a reliable rifle with a rock solid action.
What are you referring to with "the Mosin"? The Mosin-Nagant issued by the UDSSR in World War II differed in quality in a massive way. While almost every single Kar98k (even the late war variants produced under the difficulty of strategical bombing) is reliable, a lot of the Mosin Nagants had a lot of problems ranging from unreliability to inaccuracy. If you just compare the action as a principal you clearly see the advanteges the Mauser action has over the Mosin.
i think the detachable magazine is the best personally, makes it a lot easier to make your rifle safe to simply drop the mag out rather than have to pick up 4/5 bullets off the ground
A family friend just recently passed away and his wife was selling his gun collection to the people she knew would take good care of them. I was able to, because of her incredible generosity, acquire a Ruger 10/22 Carbine, a Remington 1100 .12ga shotgun, and a Winchester Model 70 chambered in .300WM, all built around the late seventies to mid eighties, for less than $350. I love the feel and light weight of the 1100, and what's not to like about a 10/22, but what I like most of all is the appearance, sturdiness, handsomeness, and overall craftsmanship of the Model 70. The stout .300WM cartridge assures me that there is no animal that walks, swims, flies, hobbles or crawls in North America that I couldn't annihilate with ease and precision . Built in New Haven, Connecticut, I am proud to say that I am the owner of a true piece of American craftsmanship, made in a time when a person paid for quality and longevity in a rifle, instead of the cheapest one with the best reviews.
I'm just getting into hunting at age of 35. After spending a lot of time researching, I chose to get a Zastava M70 FullStock in .308, which has the short Mauser action. I liked this video, as it explained a lot of the technical things I was not aware of, and just made me more sure of my choice.
TFB TV, I absolutely *cringed* at the idea of sporterizing that Mauser you displayed. That rifle was history. You don't take a rare WW II Kubelwagen and make a Baja Bug out of it. You don't take a $500 K98 Mauser, put $500 into it and make a hunting rifle worth $200 when a modern rifle like a Winchester Model 70 made with updated steel and that meets all your requirements down to the three position safety is an off the shelf item.
Most sporterizing of Mauser rifles happened just after WW2 where the fact that you owned a Nazi firearm was frowned upon so many made these changes really to disguise the fact that they used a Mauser.
ljp200 But what I'm saying is that that particular rifle is not a sporterized Mauser Gewehr 98 or K98k. That particular rifle shown in the video is a Kimber firearm that was made that way in the first place, using a Mauser-style action.
From where did you get that information??? Nobody after WW2 was concerned with having a Mauser. They were sought after because of their design. They are still sought after and sporterized. Have you ever been to a gun show or been around Military collectors?. There was no stigma owning a "Nazi" rifle after the war. To the victors the spoils.
***** , No, I thought it was so beautiful and then was followed by talk of a Mauser action being a blank canvas and putting it in any caliber. I'm sorry, you don't sporterize history.
I have had an Enfield do the exact same thing that happened to Ian on InRange. The bolt head came right off the track and popped up above the receiver. Craziest thing I ever saw. Apparently it happens more than you think.
+Shawn Williams I showed a Mosin bolt. But my attitude towards the Mosin has been shaped by experience. I have owned many over the years and not one has been on par with its contemporaries. I have given them more than a fair shake, and they are horrible.
TFB TV ok. I have shot a mosin and know how to shot them. The sticky bolt doesn't bother me really. And plus its made in Russia and how could you not like it?
Basically you just described my Winchester Model 70. Manufactured by FN, made in Portugal, it is without a doubt a quality rifle at a responsible price. Basically, it is a lot of rifle for the money. I consider it a reproduction, it has all the best qualities of the pre 64 Model 70's. Very reliable, shoots great, and has a fit and finish that would make anyone proud.
The cock on open/close argument is completely subjective. Bloke on the range has a counter point to this, which is that its usually an easier, faster motion to push the bolt forward, so with a cock on close rifle, you don't really feel the extra resistance. And you're working the bolt either way. If you wanted to fire more than once at the same target without moving around, you would be using a semi auto.
Excellent point Steve. It is somewhat arbitrary the cock-on-close vs. open argument. Older Mausers like the Swedish 94/96s cock on close, later Masuers cock on open, and most Mauser clones. The Mosin cocks on open. The Krag cocks on open. It doesn't make a different with cycling speed. Supposedly the biggest difference is lock-time. Though I cannot measure it, it seems that cock on close designs have softer springs and more massive pins, so they have a longer lock time, and this can play hob with accuracy sometimes. It is the reason why many folks will convert their Swedish Mausers to cock-on-open. It may also be the reason why Norwegian Krags (cock on open) sometimes had better accuracy than the Swedish Mausers.
+TFB TV Why would there be a restriction? I mean, the bigger and faster the round, the more humane of a kill you'll get. And a .50 BMG should guarantee a humane kill on just about anything. Am I missing something? (I'm aware that you wouldn't want to shoot a rabbit with a .50 BMG if you want to use any part of the animal)
I like the SMLE. I don't like their rear-locking bolt which compresses and increases in headspace with time. The later SMLEs with better metallurgy are better about this, but there are a whole lot of Mk1s out there that stretch the brass out something fierce.
@@curioushooter I think theres a bit of mythical status to Enfield headspace issues,caused possibly by people just parroting what others say,flogged out rifles,the fact that they often will close on no-go gauges(doesn't mean a thing with these..) or brass that's already been re-loaded far too many times. Yes, they are hard on brass and the chambers, even in best case scenarios are not consistant match grade quality instead designed to feed ammo of varying consistency coupled with battlefield crud, this they do well.I have 3 Enfields myself and have never had a case head separation or any headpsace issues, my no1mk3 and no4mk1 both have no2 bolt heads and pristine barrels, i reload but haven't gotten past 4 reloads yet on any of my brass so im not going to comment on what is "too many" when it comes to reloading 303brit , a mate reckons he had case head separation issues years ago on his no4 and that was caused by the brass rather than the rifle,he was given handloaded rounds,possibly only necksized and most likely already past use-by date.It had nothing to do with rifle because in the last 12 months i have personally put at east 1000 rounds of factory loaded ammo through that very rifle with zero problems of any kind whatsoever.I have multiple Mausers as well so im not a one eyed fanboi, but both the no4's mentioned above outshoot any of them, both shoot under 2moa with PPU while my Swedes (supposedly the ants pants of millsurp mausers) struggle to get under 3 moa.
Started watching TFB TV videos a week ago and after a while I noticed how Alex and Matt from Demolition Ranch truly are the polar opposite of gun enthusiasts. As a non-american I cannot have my own opinion about guns (we have strict gun laws here in Italy, civilian guns are only under 9mm caliber) it's nice to see there are many points of view
PhillipT I have one of those two mate, a 1942 full wood lithgow. I'm trying to get in as original condition as possible, boiled linseed oil every night and steaming out the dents in the wood. I'm also lightly re-blueing some faded parts where necessary. I need to get used to leaf and blade sights though, spent a little too long with the peep sights of no.4's haha.
I like this video and see where you're coming from, but to be honest, I like my SMLE sporter and mosin. both have antiquated and even outdated bolts, but ammo is cheap, both are reliable, and both have great upsides to them. I mainly use my SMLE for more traditional deer hunting, while i have killed more hogs with the mosin than any other weapon platform. but these are my favorites.
Sorry, but from my position as an old fart who has been shooting for 50 years, I have to say, there is one small thing you might have missed when it comes to the Mosin Nagant.Now, don't get me wrong, 80% of my large collection is Mauser rifles. I can even brag that I have an unusual dexterity when it comes to removing the extractor on a Mauser bolt (many guys on UA-cam recommend using needle nose plyers! Ouch!). I have every reason to believe that the Mauser action is the best rifle action of all time, but....I still appreciate the Mosin Nagant for being the simplest, most durable, and most dependable rifle action of all time (with the possible exception of the Arisaka, which is merely a simplified Mauser design). In conclusion, I can only say that at the beginning of your presentation, it might have been better to say "And the Mosin Nagant is the most dependable rifle of all time."One thing for sure: you and I have a few things in common. Perhaps the only real difference is that I don't shoot the treasures I collect. These treasures should remain pristine for posterity (I might even stow some of them in a time capsule!). If you ever saw this gorgeous Persian Mauser of mine (unissued! factory new!), you might feel the same way. Life is good! (I wonder where I heard that before?)
I have shot lots of different styles of rifles out of them all i enjoy the bolt action the most they are very reliable easy to use & maintenance they have lots of rich history & it's fun to slap the round in.
The bit about detachable mags on enfields is wrong it is nothing but an asset, mine has never accidentally dropped out and someone carried it through a war. Get a bit tired of all the mauser loving I mean sure they are well made but god are they boring and utilitarian.
Great on the range, I always worry about new guys with Mausers as they cant drop all their rounds when the range officer tells everyone to stop, mosins have a switch to drop all the rounds out the internal mag, semi-autos and Enfields have detachable magazines.
I used a Mosin back in 2005, it was brilliant. Those 5 rounds brought German's down quicker than the M1903, then again the 1903 always had a scope making it far more difficult to use while running through the houses of France.
I have two of the Mauser rifles. Both are very accurate, and I can get off twenty aimed shots in one minute. Gotta get a Springfield, same as a Mauser, but totally cool.
There is something about the click that a bolt makes, a mechanical symphony that is recognizable and pleasing to the ears, in terms of the gun itself, it's hard to beat the reliability, sturdy designs that have stood the test of time
Alex - Great video! I've had a Winchester Model 70 (feather-weight model) in .270 cal (bought in the mid-80's) and have taken game animals from one coast to the other and some in between! I wouldn't hunt with anything else! BTW -You the Mosin fan-boys are going to hate (with the comment you made about the Mosin)
I also use a M70 (308 featherweight) and they are great guns, but then they are pretty much a copy of the 98 action. Never going to give up that tree point safety.
The old Schultz & Larsen rifles are also something very nice too look out for, 7x61 , .308 Norma or .358Norma Magnum is some to try to check out of the fine oøder ones. Have a look at Bergara of new made ones
Great video and I agree with you with one exception. I do not believe that a military large ring mauser is safe to use with the 375 H&H as the cartridge is to long and the lower locking lug will not be sufficiently supported if the action is modified so the cartridges can be fed from the magazine.
I have a sako 85 and it ticks all of your boxes, love the rifle, I also have a finfire in a 22, sako to me build a gun that is perfect out of the box. Thought this video was really interesting as well as no too long! Keep em coming 😄
I think some other factors as to why the bolt action is so popular is because not only are they usually much cheaper then other more complex guns. they are just easier to care for. You try teaching a first time gun owner how to care and clean a semi auto rifle which you have to wrestle with many easy to lose parts if you wanna do a full clean. mean while with a bolt you just slid it out and clean it just so much more easier.
After greasing up my M1917 Enfield, I found out why bolt action rifles are the greatest. The smooth, uninterrupted, pleasing sound. Cric-crac Cric-crac Cric-crac... So. Damn. Satisfying. 🤤
If you have taken part in as many driven hunts on wildboar and deer as I have, either on a stand or as a dog handler you really know to appreciate a detachable magazin, although admittedly, when with my boar-hound, I use a beatup K98k without optic so I compensate for the lack of a detachable mag using stripper clips. (Thinking of which, I guess this way to hunt is propably illegal in most parts of North America - doing driven hunts with dogs hunting big game - but not for us in virtually all of Continental Europe :) Otherwise, I generally agree. Cool vid, so thanks and thumbs up
Nice dissertation. In my mind the Mauser 98' is *it*. I've got a line on a *reasonably priced* 1909 Argentino, somewhat buggered, saving my bucks and hope it's still available when the funds are there. Been half-ass sporterized, and rechambered for 30-06 with the original 7.65 barrel.
I agree with the comment about having a 3 position safety. Being able to manipulate the bolt while the rifle is still in safe mode just appeals to me. I've been near two position rifles when they've discharged as they were being loaded. The particular rifle was loaded again and discharged a second 3006 into the sky, and no, my friend used his right hand to move and lock the bolt. The rifle discharged as the bolt locked into place without any touching of the trigger area. I'm not saying that the same thing couldn't happen with a Mauser or Winchester, but I've never heard of it. Although many of my friends swear by their Remingtons, Rugers, and Savages, I'll stick with Mauser, Steyrs, 1903's, and , of course, Winchester 70's for safety reasons. My 2 cents!
Why I love bolt action is because I personally don't like semis except for .22s. Those are my favorite. But if you want any semi in any caliber, that's up to you
One reason I love to shoot bolt action, is that when I pull it back, it feels good
Why to me it feels good, it just does... I really don't know why
Subscibe to me
Its satisfting
Basically. I like how it looks, and feels. It's fun, and classic. Otherwise it's kind of obsolete
it reminds me of how you close the door on a dog kennel
Bolt guns are a lot like a manual gearbox not as fast but are simple, strong, and reliable. The joy of a perfect shift or a fast bolt cycle just can't be matched with an auto
I prefer levers and pumps, but there's something to be said for manual operation over an auto.
+Andy Wilderness the modern automatic has vastly improved gradually becoming more and more like a manual. Going from locking torque converters to flappy paddles and duel clutch setups.
Autos are getting better at efficiency simply because they are programs for efficiency first. the computer will do a better job of keeping it in the most efficient range, hence the rise of cvts. On a strictly power in vs power out comparison a standard will win just on the fact there are less moving parts and there is no pump to drive or converter slip.
The manual and bolt comes down to involvement if you want something that is the greatest and fastest have a robot do it for you, I will keep to rowing through the gears and will have a hell of a lot fun
Manuals have other advantages. Have you ever been coming down a hill and your automatic car just keeps speeding up? Manuals will maintain a certain speed going downhill depending on the gear you are in. This increases the life of your brakes, dramatically so if you live in a hilly area.
There's also the matter that shifting into neutral rather than idling in drive saves gas. Manuals almost always have better gas mileage than automatics.
Finally, there is always something to be said for mechanical simplicity. The only thing that typically needs to be replaced with manual transmissions is the clutch, and that's like once every 100k miles. Meanwhile, I've had automatic transmissions fail at 60k, and I mean totally need to buy a new one kind of failure. That's a 1k repair bill vs 3k+.
F1 is combination of manual and automatic shifting, I prefer manual (Yes im European) for having control over your gears but in dense cities an automatic is much easier.
Perfectly worded my good sir.
I wish Mauser still made the 98k with the same look it had in WWII.
Luger pistols too!
WWII firearms had so much character. So many modern firearms are starting to look the same. I be there would be a pretty good market if those guns where put back into production
Yea Im surprised they haven't done this
SMG Guns started making Semi-Auto FG42s
Ive been throwing this question around canadiangunnuts.com for quite a while now and there is apparently a company that is planning to sell their own repro k98k in original and non calibers some time hopefully in 2018. I forgot the companys name but their plans were mentioned in more than a few guns magazines.
Bolt actions are my favorite to shoot at the range. There is just something satisfying about slowing down, taking your time and shooting accurately. Plus the smooth feel of a well oiled bolt is a plus.
"It has been drilled into my head not to pull the trigger unless you are planning to discharge the rifle"
*dry fires multiple times*
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Subscibe to me
@@chrisruiz3269 no
@@chrisruiz3269 fuck you, if you wannted to make ads you would have a marketing job, so don't advertise yourself in other peoples comments.
That is a good thing to have drilled into one's head.
"The mosin nagant is...a rifle" shots fired!
Glad that he didn´t talk about the service revolver of the day...
(you can´t load it like modern ones and it kept jamming all the F-ing time)
Pun intended?
Also the Enfield, quote "the rear-locking lug (systems) are more weak and dangerous." A sporterized Enfield with a flawed bolt can take 15 rounds of 300 Win Mag before it gives out. Plus the advantage with rear locking lugs are that you don't have to pull the bolt as long, you just need to pull the length of the magazine. With front lugs, you have to pull a little longer because you have to clear the bolt lugs on the bolt. And I like the cock-on-close because in my opinion it lets you know your going into battery if you fight against the spring. Plus I have a stiff magazine lever spring on my Enfield and if I hit it on accident, it aint going nowhere. That issue of dropping your mags by accidentally hitting the lever is basically bad trigger discipline.
I hate how new bolt action rifles don't even come with iron sights anymore. I mean, I want a newer bolt action like a Remington 700 but I am forced to put on a scope on it.
And people say that's a cheaper/better deal than a milsurp. It's a bit like not mentioning that an economy car needs an engine overhaul, a new clutch, and a full new set of tires and wheel bearings. Hidden costs.
One of my buddies has a 700 with Magpul MBUs on it 😂
welcome to the big family of CZ...
Savage model 11 predator comes with iron sights.
Immortalkalashnikov Howa sells it's 1500 .308 bolt rifle in a scout version which comes with iron sights, a 10 round magazine, and a picitenny rail, as well as a flash suppressor
bolt action just feels right and looks right...
and have something magical about them
You forgot the Arisaka, the single strongest action tested. Also, the Springfield IS a Mauser. They even lost an infringement suit.
best name for the city in Simpsons :D
Rip left handed people...
FlameCrackFire haha true. But myself prefer ar15s and such
FlameCrackFire go buy an ar
Daniel Do bolt action hater
I’m a lefty but I’ve learned to shoot like a righty
Just use upside down
I've never even fired a gun before, and most of the stuff you say goes right over my head, but for some reason I love watching your videos.
When I was 17, I was the only hunter in our deer camp with a 98 Mauser with a 4x scope. All my friends had lever actions. I am 73, and have multiple Winchesters, Marlins, and Henrys that I shoot and hunt with. That said I am a bolt gun lover. The inherent accuracy of a bolt gun is hard to beat.
You know, you could have just said, "Mauser rifles give me a chubby" and that would have been okay.
The mosin was the glock of rifles, it wasn’t fancy, but it did the job pretty damn well
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"Well these other guns have various strengths..."
"...and the moist nugget is a rifle"
Absolutely brilliant.
Nah, it's a Nokia with a barrel.
I wish new bolt actions still had stripper clip guides. I love loading with those
One of the joys of gun ownership (for the most part) is we can all have differing opinions on what the best gun is, and even resort to full blown shit-talking everyone, but in the end, we're all better off than the non-gun people, because... we have guns. :D
agreed
Agreed.
I concur
I agree, but mines still better than yours
Well it's hard to compete with a mine, Levi. But my rifle has more range than your mine.
The mosing is cheap, and thats is a good thing
According to some comments here, Mauser is about the same price. And its better.
RevanBladeZ Price in the gun shop today or the Price during the war?
Bernardo Grando
Today i guess. There are more Mausers than the war-time models though.
You can get good Mosins for less than $200.
Mine cost about $180. I got to hand pick mine. It's a 2MoA rifle, and I have the pics to prove it.
Love this video!
Decades ago, I had a serious bolt action phase and acquired an SMLE, Mauser, M1917 and Mosin rifles in good condition when they were possible to find on the rack at your local shop. Years later, I sold all of them and focused on military semi-autos like the AR15, AK and Mini 14.
But lately, in middle age, I picked up a .22 LR bolt action and I love it! It seems the milsurp bolt actions have dried up. But I may start looking at some modern bolt actions in 5.56 or .308.
Be well.
I am a beginner's beginner, so I appreciate the visual aids in your video, since I don't know the terms at all! Thanks! :)
Let the anger flow through the veins of the nagant-fanboys.
HaHaHa, their butthurt sustains me! Even though I own an M91/30...
+chrisloUSA I own one too but I agree that they are pretty bad, cheap and fun, but my other rifles are definitely better.
Catwithanm16 Yeah, the action on mine is very rough and takes effort to move. To eject a round I have to palm slap the bolt to get it to open.
Lube up the chamber with some solvent and go to town with a 12 gauge wire brush in the chamber. All it is is hardened cosmoline.
m00n piggy Thanks, I am going to give that a try!
That Mauser at 1:19 looks so awesome.
The reason why the Mauser is still made today and the Enfield and Mosin aren't has nothing to do with the quality of the other guns. Rather, it has much more to do with who made which guns.
Mauser was-and remains-a private company that makes guns. If a country-or even multiple countries-wanted to adopt their rifles, great! The more the merrier! When they didn't want them anymore, that wasn't a deal breaker for Mauser. As a private company, they could always sell their guns to other people, including hunters on the open market.
Enfields and Mosins were made by government factories for that government's armies alone. And when those gun designs were not needed anymore, they simply stopped making them. They were never intended to be sold to civilians under any circumstances. Indeed, the first time they ever WERE offered for sale is when they were surplused out of their armies.
If they were ever to be made commercially I am sure they would do well, especially in their home countries where their populations have very fond memories of them, just as Americans have very fond memories of the M1 Garand, M1903 Springfield, and m1911 pistol.
Yeah, right. I'm not shitting on the Enfield's quality, but the Mauser action is still in use because it's the best for the purposes you want in a modern bolt action. The Mauser action is stronger, safer and more reliable than any other popular bolt action, period. The Enfield is faster, but Speed is no reason to buy a bolt action nowadays. And the Mosin cut so many corners to be cheap to make, so...
No it really is down to their actions. Enfields and Mosins because of their 2 piece bolt heads wear out much faster than Mauser actions, and the Mosin actions cycle pretty roughly (yes even well made ones don't cycle as smoothly as the Mauser and Enfields actions) The Mauser action just hit a nice sweet spot between strong, reliable, simple, and smooth.
I have an old (sadly sporterized) enfield that has made me fall in love with bolt actions. They just feel so much more satisfying
I run a 1947 Winchester model 70 super grade with the legendary mauser action with a vintage 3x scope
Great video Alex. I have used a ruger m77 markII for years now. The bolt is an exact copy of the Mauser. Which I love. An interesting observation I made among my hunting friends is that a lot of them don't like the 3 stage saftey. I love it, very simple
I'm a "fan boy" of the Remington model 700 and on that note, in my personal view I don't believe a 3 position safety is a necessity, but can appreciate it's fundamentals. The 2 position safety of the 700 is worked into my muscle memory and I find myself at a disadvantage using anything else. typically because the 3 position safety is always on the bolt cap, it's not in the most ideal position to easily switch off when aiming at the target. A detachable magazine is also a good feature IF you are hunting from a tree stand. makes loading and unloading quick and easy,
I've tried my grandpa's hunting rifle a few times now, everything just works. Love everything about it.
I've only ever used Remington bolt guns and I would love to feel the difference in feeding between push feed and control feed.
I'm a semi-auto guy when it comes to pretty much everything. However, I had an itch for a surplus bolt action that I scratched with a cheap M1916 Spanish Mauser I found. I thought I'd enjoy shooting it, but I was blown away with how fun that sucker is!
Now I just need to find a bayonet for it...
Answer: they look amazing
Thanks for the heads up. I have been shopping for a bolt action rifle and your video has helped me narrow my options down to 3 rifles. 2 thumbs up.
The advantage of the Mosin is that you can manufacture five of them in the time it takes to make one Mauser and at half of the cost. Also, it almost requires more work to break a Mosin than to make one.
that sounds a lot like the 5 Sherman myth... Cost of a Mauser vs a Mosin during the war was probalby not much different as the base materials are about the same and labor was in effect bought at "discount prices"
The Mosin was cheap because of the huge surplus. The Red Army was the largest army in WWII after all. The Mosin might be cheaper and simpler to manufacture due to the push feed design than the Mauser, but it wasn't the simplest rifle in manufacture during WWII. The french MAS36 was a newer rifle designed specifically to be simple and cheap. Yet, due to low production numbers, it's more expensive than the Mosin.
The reasons for the MN are not as simple as just price.. though it was a major player. For a detailed set of reasons for it
ua-cam.com/video/nqmkRZOIlfY/v-deo.html
i just bought a springfield 1903a3 from my grandfather. SO excited to get it on the range
I am sick of hearing people complain about the mosin , it is my favorite rifle and I love it to death
me to
@@DaCheeseIsEpicSubToHim As long as you love it, that is all that matters for you. Who cares what others think. I love my Swiss K31 and M48 Mauser.
@@alixus10 i like swiss guns
@@alixus10 mauser is good for haunting
Bolt guns really are a ton of fun! As other commenters have atated, there is something extremely satisfying about working a butter-smooth bolt quickly.
I know you hate the Mosin Nagant, but despite all the hate it'll always be the cheap, reliable rifle with the glorious x54 cartridge which puts NATO to shame. Even if it's price rises, it'll still be the cheapest masterpiece of it's class. Try finding an Enfield or Springfield for the price of a Nagant.
I disagree with your opinion and I would defile your opinion with my pee if it was a physical thing. Nothing personal of course.
I've never seen a Springfield drop it's floor plate while shooting. mosins are closer to carcanos and g88 commission rifles than Mausers In terms of performance.
"puts NATO to shame"
"masterpiece"
lol
BigMek456
i meant the x51. And while it might not be suited for magazines as a rimmed cartridge, it's adapted in the Russian Army via things like the curved SVD magazine, and belt feed.
Miloš Golubović
How does that "put NATO to shame"?
.308 is basically the same round minus an unnecessary rim.
I just like the user input, it adds more to shooting then just aiming and pulling the trigger
Your daily reminder that the Mosin action has not in fact "gone out of style" but is still in use with the Finnish army to this day moreover Molot is making new production rifles based on the Mosin action. Regardless of what Alex C from tfb tv says about the Mosin, it's a reliable rifle with a rock solid action.
What are you referring to with "the Mosin"? The Mosin-Nagant issued by the UDSSR in World War II
differed in quality in a massive way. While almost every single Kar98k (even the late war variants produced under the difficulty of strategical bombing) is reliable, a lot of the Mosin Nagants had a lot of problems ranging from unreliability to inaccuracy.
If you just compare the action as a principal you clearly see the advanteges the Mauser action has over the Mosin.
it's a garbage rod pos, coming from someone who has owned 40 give or take, the 98 action is the one and true god of bolt actions.
The Finnish Mosins are actually good rifles. The WW2 soviet Mosins are junk.
They do make great fenceposts here in Aus.
I bought a westernfield/moss berg M830 bolt action .22. Not to long ago. And already these types are my favorite 🤠
maybe do a ruger 10/22 vs ruger american rimfire?
That's a great idea
i think the detachable magazine is the best personally, makes it a lot easier to make your rifle safe to simply drop the mag out rather than have to pick up 4/5 bullets off the ground
Mauser k98k is my favorite rifle but they are so hard to find for me
I’m probably going to get one for re-enactment
A family friend just recently passed away and his wife was selling his gun collection to the people she knew would take good care of them. I was able to, because of her incredible generosity, acquire a Ruger 10/22 Carbine, a Remington 1100 .12ga shotgun, and a Winchester Model 70 chambered in .300WM, all built around the late seventies to mid eighties, for less than $350.
I love the feel and light weight of the 1100, and what's not to like about a 10/22, but what I like most of all is the appearance, sturdiness, handsomeness, and overall craftsmanship of the Model 70. The stout .300WM cartridge assures me that there is no animal that walks, swims, flies, hobbles or crawls in North America that I couldn't annihilate with ease and precision . Built in New Haven, Connecticut, I am proud to say that I am the owner of a true piece of American craftsmanship, made in a time when a person paid for quality and longevity in a rifle, instead of the cheapest one with the best reviews.
Mauser vs Springfield vs Arisaka please if you find the time.
+Dmitri Patronov hahahah
springfeild and arisaka are both basically copeis of the mauser action arent they?
They have basically the same system. But i would go with a Arisaka with a bayonet! BANZAI!
So Mauser vs Mauser vs Mauser? Hmm I'll have to go with Mauser
Really depends on the scenario
I'm just getting into hunting at age of 35. After spending a lot of time researching, I chose to get a Zastava M70 FullStock in .308, which has the short Mauser action. I liked this video, as it explained a lot of the technical things I was not aware of, and just made me more sure of my choice.
TFB TV, I absolutely *cringed* at the idea of sporterizing that Mauser you displayed. That rifle was history. You don't take a rare WW II Kubelwagen and make a Baja Bug out of it. You don't take a $500 K98 Mauser, put $500 into it and make a hunting rifle worth $200 when a modern rifle like a Winchester Model 70 made with updated steel and that meets all your requirements down to the three position safety is an off the shelf item.
If you're talking about the rifle with the scope, that's not a Mauser. Alex has stated in a comment above that the scoped rifle is a Kimber 8400.
Most sporterizing of Mauser rifles happened just after WW2 where the fact that you owned a Nazi firearm was frowned upon so many made these changes really to disguise the fact that they used a Mauser.
ljp200 But what I'm saying is that that particular rifle is not a sporterized Mauser Gewehr 98 or K98k. That particular rifle shown in the video is a Kimber firearm that was made that way in the first place, using a Mauser-style action.
From where did you get that information??? Nobody after WW2 was concerned with having a Mauser. They were sought after because of their design. They are still sought after and sporterized. Have you ever been to a gun show or been around Military collectors?. There was no stigma owning a "Nazi" rifle after the war. To the victors the spoils.
***** ,
No, I thought it was so beautiful and then was followed by talk of a Mauser action being a blank canvas and putting it in any caliber.
I'm sorry, you don't sporterize history.
I have had an Enfield do the exact same thing that happened to Ian on InRange. The bolt head came right off the track and popped up above the receiver. Craziest thing I ever saw. Apparently it happens more than you think.
thanks for not showing the mosin. your bias has been confermed.
+Shawn Williams
I showed a Mosin bolt.
But my attitude towards the Mosin has been shaped by experience. I have owned many over the years and not one has been on par with its contemporaries. I have given them more than a fair shake, and they are horrible.
TFB TV ok. I have shot a mosin and know how to shot them. The sticky bolt doesn't bother me really. And plus its made in Russia and how could you not like it?
***** because you don't see beauty in old guns now do you?
***** ha! Man I see what the problem is. Mosin hater in the hood!
+Moon Man you may be right about some things. but personaly I like it. I'll respect your opinion.
Dat scope to barrel fit is on point.
what's the rifle you are using with a scope
Kimber 8400 in .300 WSM
+TFB TV thanks
carpe diem Ok tough guy
Basically you just described my Winchester Model 70. Manufactured by FN, made in Portugal, it is without a doubt a quality rifle at a responsible price. Basically, it is a lot of rifle for the money. I consider it a reproduction, it has all the best qualities of the pre 64 Model 70's. Very reliable, shoots great, and has a fit and finish that would make anyone proud.
The cock on open/close argument is completely subjective. Bloke on the range has a counter point to this, which is that its usually an easier, faster motion to push the bolt forward, so with a cock on close rifle, you don't really feel the extra resistance. And you're working the bolt either way. If you wanted to fire more than once at the same target without moving around, you would be using a semi auto.
Excellent point Steve. It is somewhat arbitrary the cock-on-close vs. open argument. Older Mausers like the Swedish 94/96s cock on close, later Masuers cock on open, and most Mauser clones. The Mosin cocks on open. The Krag cocks on open. It doesn't make a different with cycling speed. Supposedly the biggest difference is lock-time. Though I cannot measure it, it seems that cock on close designs have softer springs and more massive pins, so they have a longer lock time, and this can play hob with accuracy sometimes. It is the reason why many folks will convert their Swedish Mausers to cock-on-open. It may also be the reason why Norwegian Krags (cock on open) sometimes had better accuracy than the Swedish Mausers.
Perfect scope for the gun, haven't seen any scope such beautifully mounted
Is it legal to hunt with a M82 or a M2?
Depends on what animal and where you live.
A mice?
why just why...
fucking cool idea though
+TFB TV
Why would there be a restriction? I mean, the bigger and faster the round, the more humane of a kill you'll get. And a .50 BMG should guarantee a humane kill on just about anything. Am I missing something? (I'm aware that you wouldn't want to shoot a rabbit with a .50 BMG if you want to use any part of the animal)
imagine stealthy walking with MASSIVE FUCKING GUN hunting squirrels.
yer fucking ridiculous but a funny idea
The Howa line of bolt guns echos much of what this video entails. Love my Howas.
The Mosin-Nagant is a rifle, especially if it's an M39.
Before i dive into this, im just gonna say, the design is simplistic and satisfying
I'll stick with my Lee Enfields.
I like the SMLE. I don't like their rear-locking bolt which compresses and increases in headspace with time. The later SMLEs with better metallurgy are better about this, but there are a whole lot of Mk1s out there that stretch the brass out something fierce.
curioushooter to be fair mk1 can be pretty damn old I doubt they were built to last as long as they have
@@curioushooter
I think theres a bit of mythical status to Enfield headspace issues,caused possibly by people just parroting what others say,flogged out rifles,the fact that they often will close on no-go gauges(doesn't mean a thing with these..) or brass that's already been re-loaded far too many times. Yes, they are hard on brass and the chambers, even in best case scenarios are not consistant match grade quality instead designed to feed ammo of varying consistency coupled with battlefield crud, this they do well.I have 3 Enfields myself and have never had a case head separation or any headpsace issues, my no1mk3 and no4mk1 both have no2 bolt heads and pristine barrels, i reload but haven't gotten past 4 reloads yet on any of my brass so im not going to comment on what is "too many" when it comes to reloading 303brit , a mate reckons he had case head separation issues years ago on his no4 and that was caused by the brass rather than the rifle,he was given handloaded rounds,possibly only necksized and most likely already past use-by date.It had nothing to do with rifle because in the last 12 months i have personally put at east 1000 rounds of factory loaded ammo through that very rifle with zero problems of any kind whatsoever.I have multiple Mausers as well so im not a one eyed fanboi, but both the no4's mentioned above outshoot any of them, both shoot under 2moa with PPU while my Swedes (supposedly the ants pants of millsurp mausers) struggle to get under 3 moa.
@@dunxy I appreciate this post!
I like Mauser
Started watching TFB TV videos a week ago and after a while I noticed how Alex and Matt from Demolition Ranch truly are the polar opposite of gun enthusiasts. As a non-american I cannot have my own opinion about guns (we have strict gun laws here in Italy, civilian guns are only under 9mm caliber) it's nice to see there are many points of view
My Enfield No4 works for me
I much prefer it to the K98k, the No. 4 has really nice sights
My No 4 Mk. 1 Canadian longbranch with a two groove barrel is an absolute beast. 180grn .303 softpoints smack down anything it comes across.
no. 1 mk. III Lithgow is one my choice.
PhillipT
I have one of those two mate, a 1942 full wood lithgow. I'm trying to get in as original condition as possible, boiled linseed oil every night and steaming out the dents in the wood. I'm also lightly re-blueing some faded parts where necessary. I need to get used to leaf and blade sights though, spent a little too long with the peep sights of no.4's haha.
I love my Savage No4 but I feel cool when I shoot my mosin at the range.
I like this video and see where you're coming from, but to be honest, I like my SMLE sporter and mosin. both have antiquated and even outdated bolts, but ammo is cheap, both are reliable, and both have great upsides to them. I mainly use my SMLE for more traditional deer hunting, while i have killed more hogs with the mosin than any other weapon platform. but these are my favorites.
Sorry, but from my position as an old fart who has been shooting for 50 years, I have to say, there is one small thing you might have missed when it comes to the Mosin Nagant.Now, don't get me wrong, 80% of my large collection is Mauser rifles. I can even brag that I have an unusual dexterity when it comes to removing the extractor on a Mauser bolt (many guys on UA-cam recommend using needle nose plyers! Ouch!). I have every reason to believe that the Mauser action is the best rifle action of all time, but....I still appreciate the Mosin Nagant for being the simplest, most durable, and most dependable rifle action of all time (with the possible exception of the Arisaka, which is merely a simplified Mauser design). In conclusion, I can only say that at the beginning of your presentation, it might have been better to say "And the Mosin Nagant is the most dependable rifle of all time."One thing for sure: you and I have a few things in common. Perhaps the only real difference is that I don't shoot the treasures I collect. These treasures should remain pristine for posterity (I might even stow some of them in a time capsule!). If you ever saw this gorgeous Persian Mauser of mine (unissued! factory new!), you might feel the same way. Life is good! (I wonder where I heard that before?)
Mosin is insane rifle. FREAKIN ROOOCK !
The Mosin was a club someone decided to make into a gun.
They are tough as coffin nails some are actually really fucking accurate
I have shot lots of different styles of rifles out of them all i enjoy the bolt action the most they are very reliable easy to use & maintenance they have lots of rich history & it's fun to slap the round in.
What rifle is this?
I could watch your videos all day. Love your knowledge and the way you put it all together in your videos. Thanks for your entertaining channel!
#MosinRiflesMatter
I'm really glad to see such a detailed and well thought out video on what one should look for in a bolt action rifle
The bit about detachable mags on enfields is wrong it is nothing but an asset, mine has never accidentally dropped out and someone carried it through a war. Get a bit tired of all the mauser loving I mean sure they are well made but god are they boring and utilitarian.
Yeah they are, no love for mosin my alex either!
Great on the range, I always worry about new guys with Mausers as they cant drop all their rounds when the range officer tells everyone to stop, mosins have a switch to drop all the rounds out the internal mag, semi-autos and Enfields have detachable magazines.
Er hat ein Fetish fur Deutschland.
I remember seeing lanyard loops on.303 magazines.
I used a Mosin back in 2005, it was brilliant. Those 5 rounds brought German's down quicker than the M1903, then again the 1903 always had a scope making it far more difficult to use while running through the houses of France.
I disagree that the Mosin Nagant is a rifle, rather the Mosin Nagant is a wooden and metal club that can fire Spitzer bullets.
I have two of the Mauser rifles. Both are very accurate, and I can get off twenty aimed shots in one minute. Gotta get a Springfield, same as a Mauser, but totally cool.
I thought you were going to say: "And the Mosin is... cheap.", which would've been true and the only reason why Russia could field it in such numbers.
There is something about the click that a bolt makes, a mechanical symphony that is recognizable and pleasing to the ears, in terms of the gun itself, it's hard to beat the reliability, sturdy designs that have stood the test of time
Why do people with ARs shoot poodles?
Because they can ?
+UnknownBigF . Yes
Aww yes the poodle, man's eternal enemy.
okay, wth?
poodles shit talk too much. bitches get stitches. world goes round.
3 lug locking too! less rise from the bolt handle means less chance to knock the scope/smash your hand.
Here come the "The mosin action is stronger than the Mauser" fanboys.
And the Arisaka action is stronger than both of them....
Actually the Nerf action is strongest.
This is the best ASMR I have ever seen
I have hunted with my semi for 19 years without an issue, bolt actions are overrated
I love that "nod the Mosin-Nagant...is just a rifle"
Alex - Great video! I've had a Winchester Model 70 (feather-weight model) in .270 cal (bought in the mid-80's) and have taken game animals from one coast to the other and some in between! I wouldn't hunt with anything else! BTW -You the Mosin fan-boys are going to hate (with the comment you made about the Mosin)
I also use a M70 (308 featherweight) and they are great guns, but then they are pretty much a copy of the 98 action. Never going to give up that tree point safety.
Yup - pretty much every modern gun has copied the mauser-action
The old Schultz & Larsen rifles are also something very nice too look out for, 7x61 , .308 Norma or .358Norma Magnum is some to try to check out of the fine oøder ones. Have a look at Bergara of new made ones
Keep them coming man
Extremely clean guns! Great job!
Very good video. It seems that ARs and AKs are getting most of the fanfare, while bolt actions are rarely talked about.
Actually, BAs are the main shit here, because they are just awesome.
I too, like bolt action rifles better than any other. Thanks for this video.
Great video and I agree with you with one exception. I do not believe that a military large ring mauser is safe to use with the 375 H&H as the cartridge is to long and the lower locking lug will not be sufficiently supported if the action is modified so the cartridges can be fed from the magazine.
That's some nice FULLY bolt action stuff.
:P
I have a sako 85 and it ticks all of your boxes, love the rifle, I also have a finfire in a 22, sako to me build a gun that is perfect out of the box.
Thought this video was really interesting as well as no too long! Keep em coming 😄
Love this channel.
I think some other factors as to why the bolt action is so popular is because not only are they usually much cheaper then other more complex guns. they are just easier to care for. You try teaching a first time gun owner how to care and clean a semi auto rifle which you have to wrestle with many easy to lose parts if you wanna do a full clean. mean while with a bolt you just slid it out and clean it just so much more easier.
After greasing up my M1917 Enfield, I found out why bolt action rifles are the greatest.
The smooth, uninterrupted, pleasing sound.
Cric-crac
Cric-crac
Cric-crac...
So. Damn. Satisfying. 🤤
Here's the issue. I'm Canadian and I wanted detachable box magazine due to the surrounding firearms and vehicles. Lee-Enfield fits that's nicely...
If you have taken part in as many driven hunts on wildboar and deer as I have, either on a stand or as a dog handler you really know to appreciate a detachable magazin, although admittedly, when with my boar-hound, I use a beatup K98k without optic so I compensate for the lack of a detachable mag using stripper clips. (Thinking of which, I guess this way to hunt is propably illegal in most parts of North America - doing driven hunts with dogs hunting big game - but not for us in virtually all of Continental Europe :) Otherwise, I generally agree. Cool vid, so thanks and thumbs up
I ignore all of this and choose a Savage 110.
Nice dissertation. In my mind the Mauser 98' is *it*.
I've got a line on a *reasonably priced* 1909 Argentino, somewhat buggered, saving my bucks and hope it's still available when the funds are there. Been half-ass sporterized, and rechambered for 30-06 with the original 7.65 barrel.
I agree with the comment about having a 3 position safety. Being able to manipulate the bolt while the rifle is still in safe mode just appeals to me.
I've been near two position rifles when they've discharged as they were being loaded. The particular rifle was loaded again and discharged a second 3006 into the sky, and no, my friend used his right hand to move and lock the bolt. The rifle discharged as the bolt locked into place without any touching of the trigger area.
I'm not saying that the same thing couldn't happen with a Mauser or Winchester, but I've never heard of it. Although many of my friends swear by their Remingtons, Rugers, and Savages, I'll stick with Mauser, Steyrs, 1903's, and , of course, Winchester 70's for safety reasons. My 2 cents!
Why I love bolt action is because I personally don't like semis except for .22s. Those are my favorite. But if you want any semi in any caliber, that's up to you