Yea he beats everybody in the verse besides Homelander. And even then it's dangerous for homelander. When they fought at Herogasm soldier boy already busted his load lol, if he's fresh it's super close
It takes him over a minute to launch it except when he has ptsd. It’s fitting that Homelander is the only S tier but if anyone else would be in it, then yeah it would be Soldier Boy
@@AdaptedInfiltrator although it takes a while to launch the actual blast, in the scene with the tnt twins it is shown that even while charging, the V in other supes is still rendered ineffective.
@@irishwristwatch8645 I thought it was just because the tnt twins were out of practice for years. V Butcher and V Hughie were near Soldier Boy when he blasted Kimiko. They didn’t lose their powers then. Kimiko and Starlight kept their powers despite Soldier Boy charging up near them. The PTSD made his blast happen way faster for the tnt twins
I'd say he matches Homelander on S-Tier thanks to that ability, with his lack of flight/speed is being his main weakness. He lacks mobility, but definitely matches Homelander's endurance and physical strength clearly onscreen, with Butcher having similar powers couldn't really do much damage to him or slow him down a lot at the tower in the S3 finale.
@@Lumantrix If I remember correctly that was the 34th Superman comic right? He became a milkman but because he was so fast he became the leader of the milk company and essentially ruled over it. Search up superman milk rule 34 for more info.
@@error-4269 I'd put him on the same level or slightly higher tbh. Neuman was specifically pointed out to be absurdly durable even for a supe and his tendrils tore her apart like it was nothing
@@MrKeen-vy6yn but Neuman had no prep. Bigger question is, why didnt she Pop Butcher’s head or do any blood bending, the moment Butcher entered the room
@@fredbrad2036 heres some leaks about starlight in season 5 (1 is confirmed) 1. light speed flight. this will make her about 100 times faster then homelander and about 250 times faster than atrain (confirmed) 2. she will be able to absorb electromagnetic radiation (UV light, infrared light, gamma rays, etc) 3. she will be able to use her energy blasts as a beam, not just a big blast if all these are true she will compete with homelander, especially since she could abosrb the infra red light from his beam (thats heat)
@@ryanstrilogyYea I don't think the end game fight is gonna be between homelander and starlight.I also don't think she's actually gonna fly at light speed
People complaining about homelander bleeding from steel straw to his ear like maeve ap isn't high enough to at least injury him in such a vulnerable area.
Its not a inconsistency that kimiko is vulnerable to bullets. Some super heros have super durability, others dont. Kimiko is one of the subes who dont have super durability, instead, she makes up for that with a high regenerative factor. Homelander on the other hand is bullet prof. Dont say its a "inconsistency" on the show's part because you didnt pay attention
@@bigsolidjay8128 such as? A lot of people point to homelander and the metal straw thing ignoring the fact that the person wilding the metal straw had super strenght AND it was shoved directly into his ear, a weak spot
@@bigsolidjay8128 I personally didn't notice any inconsistencies. Even in the show itself (or in Gen V) there is a news report or something that says a lot of supes exhibit superhuman durability. "A lot" means that there are supes that don't have superhuman durability.
The only argument that is convinsing soldier boy being stronger than homelander is his atomic blast ability whitch removes V from supes body Theoretically it could one shot homelander But in physical atributes homelander is indeed stronger
@@Lumantrix yea you're right homelander will not die but he shoud lost all Powers and when you are just a human soldier boy can kill you even when he is exhausted
There's no inconsistency with the bullets in the show. Kimiko has never shown enhanced durability. Her body breaks the way a non-supe humans would, down to Frenchie being able to saw through her leg. She has super strength and regeneration, no super durability.
dude i was gonna say the same thing! kimiko has always had her skin penetrated by bullets it just regenerates, she doesn’t have the skin like homelander or even translucent
I'm no expert on the subject but I do believe Soldier Boy is still a better fighter then Homelander, not like Captain America or anything, just is pretty skilled, while Homelander is more just okay, that being said, yeah there's no way he's physically stronger then Homelander, come on guys! 😆
Agreed. Soldier boy has shown similar, if not better combat compared to butcher who's obviously well trained and can contend with stronger people based on skill alone. This video is biased, as Soldier boy doesn't just simply overpower butcher. He also had to find openings and knock butcher to the ground. Soldier boy is a trained soldier and far skilled than homelander.
@@alatusedits soldier boy wasnt an actual soldier, he was a mascot just like homie the only difference was he got to actually participate in small events i.e the Nicaragua incident where he got captured and we got to see he was much more tactical compared to Homelander and was much more utilizing of his weapons like the shield he used on black noir
1:43 Sister Sage does actually have regeneration. It’s not particularly good but it can heal her from a bullet to the head. She has to lobotomies her brain regularly to prevent it from killing her thanks to her regenerative abilities
@@ProjektTaku That’s right, but it’s still regenerative abilities regardless be it weak ones in a specific but crucial part of her body. So she has enhanced intelligence and regenerative abilities
@@KlynerKaiOffical again, you shoot her in the heart, neck, or anywhere aside from the brain, and she's dead. Its only useful if someone didn't know your brain could regenerate and decided to shoot it. Also the regen lowers her intelligence for a while, so its more like one or the other.
When I said no other enhanced abilities I meant so far in that it pertains to combat. If anyone above tier E punched her in the head they’d probably cave her skull in not much to regenerate from there
12:00 Marie can also manipulate the blood of others, she did it first episode to save the ladie the dead black magneto kid almost kid. May his actor rest in peace
You got it backwards. Marie is more talented than Neuman. Neuman saw the potential in Marie and was considering her as her successor. Neuman was just more skilled than Marie outright stating the experience gap.
Maeve also tanked soilder boy's strongest explosion, one that was considered powerful enough to even kill butcher and homelander. This explosion also completely inconpasitated soilder boy while maeve was still able to walk
@@IridescentIrene mostly true tho you can argue that he didn’t get up because he was drugged during the explosion and therefore might’ve been using a last resort nuke
@@IsThatAThaiNameit was the gas in his mind he thought he could probably pull off that blast take down everyone and wake up from it because if you see his face it looks like he’s about to be knocked out
Marie is also able to manipulate the blood of others’. This is shown in Gen v quite a bit where she can help them survive and use their blood as a weapon
Yep. Her light power wasn’t working, and Deep sucker punched her. Without those factors, it would have been closer and I dare say she would have won especially if she remembered to go for his gills which she conveniently forgot till after A-Train saved her. The earlier seasons definitely pointed to Starlight beating Deep if they fought, but this season nerfed her for a majority, and honestly buffed Deep
I would put the deep lower than starlight considering he was terrified of fighting her throughout season one and only was able to beat her in the recent season due to her having lost her light-manipulation powers. He definitely has better durability and strength though considering he could beat the powerless starlight despite her undoubtedly having more skill and experience in hand-to-hand combat.
I did discuss him after but I don’t necessarily think he would win a fight, which is why I put characters in tiers. I think for the most part, characters in the same tier could have a very intense, 50/50 brawl with one another, but I do think Starlight would probably beat the Deep overall
i think a train should be higher, a tier. if he always utilized his superspeed practically no one could be able to land a hit on him except homelander if you consider his lazer vision lightspeed
@@Professor_Fiction with the show's consistency, I agree, but if his reaction time was the same throughout then no, but since he missed hitting the deep once he definitely gets hit by a tiers
12:45 I am pretty sure the proffesor meant he could be bigger than homelander popularity wise, not strenght wise, he did say bigger not stronger after all
19:29 While i agree with homelander being stronger than soldier boy butcher was never portrayed to better in hand 2 hand that soldier boy in that fight. Hell, that clip you showed doesn't even agree with your statement.
Some points: Love your breakdown of Maeve v Homelander, a lot of people try to undermine her performance in that fight with the holding back narrative even though this only accounted for 30 seconds of their 5+ minutes long fight (including in the background of Soldier Boy v everyone). Her performance here was the best we've seen so far against HL even tho Soldier Boy's hype and radiation blast places him slightly higher. I disagree with Starlight being below Kimiko and Deep. S4 gave her a lot of solid combat feats. Im primarily impressed by her performance against the Shifter, someone who is casually bulletproof and has immense strength and fighting ability. Her durability is top tier in the verse and her powers seem to be growing in potency and versatility. She belongs either at the top of C tier or bottom of B tier with A-Train. Marie is a bit too low considering her internal attacks, which can't really be blocked or countered. She's arguably the strongest of the Gen v lot. I think a few of the Gen V kids could stand to go lower, like Sam below Stormfront and jordan and golden boy lower in b tier. I'd place all of them except Marie below Black Noir, Starlight and A-Train. Otherwise, great ranking, very well researched.
0:51 base mindstorm dogwalks everyone below butcher and maeve wtf are you smoking. HE MADE SOLDIER BOY BLEED. he also took a bloodlusted shield tackle and started getting up, so there's like 4 characters that can even damage him.
@@Lumantrix fr. and the insane durability is literally decades out of his prime. it seems like a lot of youtubers just yoink their scaling from vbw or some other forum without a second thought. they probably don't actually watch the show or only half payed attention to it. another one is the tnt twins. they blitzed soldier boy so bad they made him look like neferpitou, and left more damage than giga amp'd starlight. yet people think noir can beat them.
@@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap Exactly even Crimson countess projectile was able to knock SoldierBoy back and even her punch did some damage Payback definitely had some powerful members also them wiping out Mallory’s men was probably on purpose and not by bad planning because they didn’t want anyone to see SoldierBoy getting beaten
mindstorm didn’t make soldier boy bleed, watch the fight more carefully he punched soldier boy then black noir gave several more punches that made him bleed not mindstorm
@@Randomperson11121 take your own advice. mindstorm drew blood first, then noir punched out his teeth. soldier boy's face is already bloody before noir punches him. noir just made it bloodier.
She didn't take any damage from A-Train repeatedly hitting her head on a concrete wall, she obviously isn't as durable as Starlight, but she's definitely more durable than the average person
A member of the Seven, the most illustrious and powerful heroes, was knocked to the ground by a bullet. This was in a season spent majorly discussing the “Invincible and Indestructible Super Heroes” joining the army and how tanks, missiles and fighter jets wouldn’t even scratch them
The fact that Soldier Boy can disable superpowers is a huge perk that the video doesn't adres and that should put him in the S-tier as well. Ryan is probably S-tier as well, or at least has the potential to become. From what we've seen in S2 and S4 he's already easily in the A tier at age 12.
Nah Soldier Boy would erase maeve He was out of commission with the strongest sedatives for years. Keep him awake and busy and he would rek Homelander as well.
you forgot to mention that in The Boys Diabolical when the people are blaming Homelander after the shotgun explodes(same chapter he and noir fight) he has a little flashback of him as a kid fighting grown men, so he was likely trained ever since he was able to talk until he was 18 non stop.
You made a false comment about Marie while you were discussing Neumann. Marie can also manipulate other people's blood, which is shown several times near the end of Gen V
Thus far she hasn’t had a full grasp on using it at will, otherwise she could have done as much to the Supe threatening Ashley and the Vought execs but instead used blood blades. To me, her use of it seems to be in short bursts surrounding heightened emotions, like memories of her trauma or when Jordan was about to be controlled, not something she has full mastery of yet
Sure, she “can” but that doesn’t mean it’s sometbing she actually does. In a fight, Marie’s standard go to is always creating blood whips or weapons. I wouldn’t say Homelander “can” just fly above everyone else in the series and laser them from above because it’s not something he usually does
@@Professor_Fiction I think we're losing sight of what I was originally trying to point out. All I'm getting at is that saying ". . far more advanced version of what Marie Moreau does, capable of manipulating the blood of others rather than her own" is false when on several occasions Marie has used her powers on other people's blood. To call them out specifically: blowing up Rufus' junk, detecting the tracking probes in the cast's necks, detecting the Compound V in Neuman's blood, conjuring a swarm of blood knives in the final fight, and blowing up Cate's hand. Now that I see the list, I'm inclined to say that the only thing holding her back from being on Neuman's level is a lack of practice
Considering I was discussing I think 20-30 characters I was generalizing points that I didn’t think were worth discussing. Yes, Marie can manipulate the blood of others, but it’s not something she’s prone to apply in combat effectively or at all. The way Neuman describes it is that external manipulating blood is exhausting while popping people is pretty efficient, which I tried to surmise
Shouldn't Ryan be S-tier as well? He seems to have equipotent skill and power potential as Homelander. He mutilated and disabled Stormfront without even trying.
When Homelander said Soldier Boy was almost as strong as him - that was because enhancements. Soldier Boys' power of explosion probably gives him the edge in that he has a better ability to kill Homelander than Homelander has to kill him.
The Peak is S+++ and would solo an army of one million Homelanders, only stopping at a million because he would crave a blooming onion from Outback and abandon the conflict to go get it
I figured new Noir>old, since new only got pushed back but seemingly not pierced by a bunch of minigun bullets. Meanwhile old got pierced by a handgun bullet. Unless, the torso armor is tougher than the gloves?? I don’t think new Noir not neutralizing Butcher is enough reason to put him below new Noir. Old Noir hit Butcher into a wall. New Noir didn’t, and had to fight Butcher who had a shotgun. Meanwhile old Noir fought Butcher who had only a crowbar. Also, new Noir can fly.
HL is superior vs Soldier Boy but mainly due to better mobility and heat vision. If things for whatever reason go bad (rarely since HL is a little stronger) he can blast SB from distance or if he can't harm him just grab him and fly/throw him into the ocean/low earh orbit before he activates his blast.
I always found the SB v Homelander debate really weird; how many times does it need to be shown or outright stated that Homelander is the strongest Supe? I think his fight against Maeve is also talked about as though it was more even than it actually was. Maeve was nearly downed several times in the fight without too much of a struggle, and suffered the loss of an eye. Homelander had a nose bleed and a straw jammed in his ear, which didn't seem to cause much permanent damage.
@@cengix8850 What in the world are you talking about? First of all, going off about "cheap shots" in this universe is crazy, especially when you consider that Maeve went for him while his back was turned, punched him in the groin and jammed a straw into a sensitive part of the body (like the eye, ears are also sensitive, especially the inner area). Gouging someone's eye out is a valid move in a fight to the death, I don't know what else to say. Even without that, if you look at the shots that landed he was clearly winning the fight despite Maeve catching him off guard and him clearly holding back for at least a portion of the fight. This should not be surprising; he is the strongest Supe, he's built to be physically more powerful than the rest of them.
6:30 Didn’t a way weakens starlight bully the shapeshifter that bullied kimiko? I feel like kimiko just lost so that starlight could have her moment but unfortunately the fact is that starlights performance despite being heavily weakened made kimiko look bad
Great video! I really hope Maeve returns for Season 5 even if briefly. She'd probably use Temp V on herself if she felt her and Elena were in danger again.
I don't think this guy understands that the entire point of supes is they vary in strength. That's why Homelander is at the top. He is stronger. He is smarter. He is better. Some supes, like Kimiko, regenerate fast but can be injured by bullets. Others are more like Victoria Neuman: durable enough for bullets to bounce off of them. It's not an "inconsistency" for two different superhuman characters to have two different levels of durability and strength.
What I meant is that the story one episode will tell us “all Supes are invincible” or “all Supes are bullet proof” or “the Supes can shake off military technology like missiles” then have Supes get hurt by rifles, hand guns, and punches
@@Professor_Fiction It's Supe technology as a whole. Most supes have super strength. Most supes have super durability. Almost all supes have better hearing. But that trait varies between all supes, ranging from Mesmer to Soldier Boy, who is free to do whatever he wants because they could not kill him if they wanted to. In plural, yes. Supes could probably shake off most military technology because 1 Homelander beats an entire country's army, as nothing short of a nuclear warhead can harm him. Put Kimiko in the same situation and it's a different story.
Sort of. Butcher and Frenchie have both implied at various points of the series that killing a supe either is nearly impossible and takes months of preparation and planning, until it doesn’t. I don’t think it’s world breaking levels of inconsistency but they do have some very broadly speaking statements about supes in general
@@Professor_Fiction The power dynamics vary between the seasons. In season 1, they had to rely on their brains and arduous planning, while in season 3 they had V24 and Soldier Boy to help them out, just to be back at square 1 for most of Season 4 save for Kimiko and Starlight. Their statements are true, though. Take the original Boys without Kimiko and they truly need several months of planning to take down a supe. I wasn't a big fan of the convenient existence of a virus that can just kill any supe like that, especially with how it got overshadowed by Butcher's new powers in the end, but overall, supes still have that same powerful aura of a ticking time bomb that can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Season 5 is the exception. The entire narrative of season 5 is probably gonna be a massacre of supes.
He says that Homelander and himself are "the top 2", also since he was the one presenting that one panel in season 4, he's likely to be pretty successful
@@WhiteNoBeard471 Homelander literally says he's nothing, although I do believe he's probably one of the more popular Supes, he's apparently not popular enough to join the Seven.
While prime homelander is likely stronger,currently soldier boy is probably no 1,since he doesnt age,and homelander is aging and weakening,and will only grow weaker
@@ProjektTaku No,aging weakens you,by almost definition aging is just the breaking down of the body.The fact that his hair is graying is evidence that his dna and stuff isn't functioning as well.Remember,sister sage made these observations regarding his age due to his physical appearance,meaning the biology of his body is being affected It's also a parralel with how his mind is obviously degrading
He is aging, but he's still only middle aged so he's probably not any weaker just yet. Season 4 only takes place 6 months after season 3 and Homelander was already stronger than soldier Boy by a slight margin. Unless you think people get physically weaker after only 6 months Homelander should still be stronger. Plus the narrative hasn't suggested that Homelander is any weaker yet.
@@Rdc_Dom Yeah,that kinda makes sense,but Sage implies his fight with soldier boy fucked him up unnaturally somehow,I don't even know what she meant by that though tbf
In the comics, Tek Knight doesn't have Compound V, but he does wear an Iron-Man parody suit that enhances his strength, durability, intelligence, and speed. If the show had more budget, then Tek Knight's suit would rank well beyond A or S Tier (at least B Tier)
I think where this list screwed the pooch is mixing Feats with the actual Powers/Capabilities. If you stuck with Powers and their potential this list would've been significantly more consistent. Examples: -The Deep is getting folded by Powered Up Starlight. -Kimiko's Brother doesn't have crazy Durability, but that's not where he shines anyways, ripping a Helicopter out of the sky isn't something even some of the B Tiers can do. Yet he's still on the same level as his Sister that he easily flung out of existence. -Kate folded the entire Gen V cast, and was literally only stopped by Marie at the end, Kate's power is OP, she may not be bullet proof or super durable but influencing Supes even as strong as Sam and Goldenboy is NOT something we should overlook. -Hughie got a surprise punch off of Homelander, Teleporting isn't that crazy in dealing damage compared to something consistent like A-Train's speed or his Dad's Phasing Through ability.
@@PYRO-TF2-REAL holy shit bro you're so fucking hilarious have you done stand up yet? Holy fuck you should be on Joe Rogan podcast my god your so fucking funny
I personally would swap Marie and Neuman on this list, because I believe Marie clearly has a more versatile control over blood than Neuman since Neuman would need to see her targets with her eyes to begin with. Marie would probably go higher on this list in Gen V S2.
soldier boy just losing energy when he blowing up and when he fought homelander at first he was already weak because of blowing, thats why homelander took him, homelander doesn't stand a chance in hand to hand combat, if he uses the laser, soldier boy easily can use the shield until homelander stops, there is nothing else to do for fight so soldier boy could've take him. just we didn't saw soldier boy in a fight without losing energy against homelander. soldier boy is a soldier he saw a lot of wars he knows how to fight he got a lot of fighting skills.
@@liohheditz_ then 1. Prove soldier boy was weakened after using his blast 2. Soldier boy has 0 fighting skills he has only ever fought normal humans or supes significantly weaker than him 3. It is literally stated by everyone soldier boy is weaker than homelander
Regarding Frenchie saying "its nearly impossible to take out a supe" he means those who have the seemingly common damage resistance, like from Starlight to Translucent, just Translucent was perhaps slightly more resistant, but its been mentioned that even a nuke cant hurt Homelander, so it appears to be a spectrum. Mesmer was on the lower end, he was a supe, but he only had his unique trait, if he also had the common resistance trait he would have been an actual threat, but he just lived a normal life with normal problems. Those wernt the kinda supes Frenchie was talking about.
Soldier boy just woke up from his imprisonment days before fighting homelander so I imagine prime soldier boy would put up a good fight and earn a spot at least top of A tier
I believe soldier boy>Homelander, because you’re overestimating how much of a power gap was shown at herogasm, their fight lasted a good amount of time , and throughout it they were completely even, while not outright stated, its heavily implied and visible that soldier boy using his blast weakens him temporarily, he can comtrol how much energy he shoots out, and he went all out at herogasm, seconds after he had to fight homelander. And you’re forgetting that the person who is stating soldier boy to be “nearly as strong as homelander” is homelander himself, what was he gonna say, “youre the only one more powerful than me?” Ofc not. He was crapping his pants about fighting soldier boy, and for good reason. You can make a case for both parties, but i think soldier boy’s is the strongest.
“Starlight was taken down by a gun” they literally specified that she was shot by a .50 CAL SNIPER RIFLE, a gun known to be extremely powerful, and even then she wasn’t even injured and got up like it was nothing.
The problem being that the heroes at this point are being compared to the highest level of military weapons(barring nukes) which any normal firearm really shouldn’t be able to do anything too
Soldier boy is literally indestructible, and can remove people’s powers, how does a maxed out home lander even deal with that? The only thing stopping him from killing everyone at the finale was lesbian plot armor.
@@_Yombo do you not think the Russians would have tried that? It’s set up he’s invincible, that would be a bit pointless if all that was needed is to be choked.
I’m sorry for asking this question because I don’t want to sound stupid but here goes: If Stormfront shoots lightning/electricity, and Starlight can power up with electricity…why couldn’t she absorb or redirect Stormfront’s lightning?
Homelander says you were the only one almost as strong as me to deter soldier boy not as a literal factual statement. If soldier boy would’ve blasted homelander he either would’ve made him lose his powers or homelander would get stronger or something since he was born with powers idk
???? He is still strong bc of V wether or not he was injected or born with it doesn't matter and soldier boys power removes the v from your cells making you a normal human
@@defender1214 I was just saying that soldier boy is one of the strongest characters in the show next to homelander not below him, and blasting homelander would make him normal and killable with what you said I wasn’t sure since homelander is different then other supes
For Butcher having a cut on his face 1v1 when fighting Homelander remember that Butcher did get hit by the shockwave of the blast which was strong enough to KO him. Homelander’s lasers KOd him again. As for Soldier Boy/Black Noir, I think Noir could have stabbed him elsewhere besides the skin. Other supes have been bled via getting stabbed in the eyes, ears, etc
Soldier Boy has the broken ability to disable compound v if he gets off the blast on homelander & he doesn't age like homelander, while homelander is physically stronger, faster, more durable, can fly & shoot lasers.
The sheer number of homelander's abilities other than his strenght also clealy makes him the strongest supe. He spotted hughie from a drop of sweat, and he also heard a-train quietly cussing and don't forget how the boys had to make a room out of metal foil just so homelander doesn't fly by and sees them through walls. And people like to downplay his intelligence and skills just because they dislike him. He's infact very smart and skilled, he's just acts the way he does because he was manipulated as a child.
Okay I like how you addressed the two main arguments for Soldier Boy being stronger or at least equal to Homelander. So to start you say that his "claim to fame" is the fact that hes ALMOST as strong as Homelander. The reason this isnt a convincing argument is that its all in theory. There is really no way anyone could have accurately assessed the physical strength and speed difference between them since Soldier Boy was long gone before Homelander. Neither man has ever had their limits really pushed as grown adults. Also anyone that was educated on Soldier Boy and Homelander would be speaking generally. "Stronger" would refer to all their respective abilities, which Homelander has a lot more of. Hes "stronger' because hes better, and theres reason to believe that excludes pure physical strength. I doubt their most important area of assessment is their bench maxes, more likely its testing who can fly or has super smell or can see through walls or who can shoot lasers out of their eyes. I think you catch my drift. Onto the actual arguments. You say it was never stated or commented on that Soldier boy is weakened after firing a blast, therefore nerfed before fighting homelander. Thats KIND of true. He never direct states or makes the excuse that he only lost the fight due to the blast, but he DOES comment that he blacked out after doing it the second time in the city. for 10 WHOLE minutes. And you see him stumbling into the room almost limping at herogasm after the blast and even has to ask what happened. Now to me its quite the reach to think none of these side effects carried on in a fight with the most power being to ever exist. Even if you think somehow his strength or concentration or gas tank werent at all affected from firing a ptsd induced radioactive blast from your body that only became a thing you can do after being tortured day and night, even if you thought that, blacking out and losing memory isnt at all the sort of condition you can send someone to fight under and still call it their absolute best. In their next confrontation Soldier boy grabs his jaw and homelander couldnt do anything about it. Watch the scene and listen very closely after the grab. You can hear homelander throw 3 punches at Soldier boy before Maeve and Billy grab his arms. So a healthy Solder boy can just eat 3 punches from homelander and not loses the grip on his jaw at all. To me thats very damning. Its very telling that at his best, SB is physically superior to homelander. Onto the other argument that SB did better against Billy than HL, thats my personal favorite argument. You say Billy and Homelanders fight never reached its conclusion, but the amount we do get is very telling. Homelander cant hamper billy in any way from the several uncontested shots he lands on him. Billy actually SMILES after the several hits because hes relishing his ability to bang it out with him. Homelander had SEVERAL hits but couldnt significantly damage Billy. Compare this will Soldier boy who actually knocks billy out twice, the second time being way more dominantly. Sure the two fought for longer, but there isnt much reason to think that unseen amount would be different from what we see. Billy won a few exchanges, but SB was never in any harm and didnt get hurt. He overcame Billy even just skill wise during the fight. Then he drops him against later. Homelander wasnt gonna win against Billy and Soldier boy. He knocked Soldier boy away and had billy against the wall, but Billy wasnt helpless. He was still fighting back just as well, he wasnt getting choked to death like Soldider boy. So that isnt much good either. Plus against...Soldier boy was weakened.
everything you said doesn't really matter when it's verbatim stated multiple times by different source materials that homelander is physically stronger and more powerful than soldier boy. you're yet to show substancial evidence for the blast weakening soldier boy's physical capabilities, he used the blast against kimiko on 3x4 and walked out like nothing happened a second after using it, not showing any sign of fatigue or physical weakening, the exact same happened when he used the blast on crimson countess on 3x5, again, not a single sign of fatigue, and the one time he blacked out was on 3x6 when he he had ptsd cuz russian music, so it's implied his fainting was due the ptsd rather then the blast itself, as we saw him using it before and being perfectly fine afterwards. he also showed minimal sign of fatigue on 3x6 for a a ridiculously low period of time and seemed fine after a couple of seconds. homelander and soldier boy encounter in 3x8 isn't valid for arguing sb is above him as homelander was off guarded and holding back as he stated he didn't want to fight soldier boy multiple times during that episode. the "sb did better against butcher" argument is also not valid as we know temp v has side effects on the user, progressively killing him the more doses he takes, with 3 to 4 doses being stated to be letal and butcher being at his sixth dose against soldier boy, therefore being at his weakest state (consistent with the fact that his brain tumor was getting worse with each dose he took; it's stated in 3x8 that his brain was turning into swiss cheese), since we know the more doses he takes the weaker he gets then 3x6 butcher > 3x8 butcher as he would've taken less doses, so homelander fought a stronger butcher, so it's invalid to affirm soldier boy is above him due performing better against a weaker butcher (it's interesting to note that soldier boy had more injuries than homelander did after fighting butcher even when facing a weaker version of him btw). so ye homelander it's stated in all source materials to be above him and also showed to be above him, what else do you need to accept the truth?
@@rodrigomartinsanimations I really doubt you did since you started off by saying something like “none of this matters”, but fine. When I feel like it I’ll skim through your comment.
@@rodrigomartinsanimations "everything you said doesn't really matter when it's verbatim stated multiple times by different source materials that homelander is physically stronger and more powerful than soldier boy." First of all, you wouldnt have said the more powerful part if you actually read what i said where i admitted why Homlander is better than him. Id love to hear where its directly stated hes phyiscally stronger. "you're yet to show substancial evidence for the blast weakening soldier boy's physical capabilities" Not only did i tell you a direct moment where Soldier boy was visibly physically affected after firing a blast, and not only did i directly compare his performances from when he recently fired a blast to when he didnt, but i ALSO made the point that even if you were to reach and say he isnt at all affected by it (and just so we're clear, that is a reach since being knocked out from a nuke you keep inside yourself is definitely negatively impacting you), just the fact that he went unconscious already disqualifies the contest from being a totally legitimate loss. I like your energy so far, definitely seems like you responded to me expected to be able to change your mind on this. "he used the blast against kimiko on 3x4 and walked out like nothing happened a second after using it, not showing any sign of fatigue or physical weakening, the exact same happened when he used the blast on crimson countess on 3x5, again, not a single sign of fatigue, and the one time he blacked out was on 3x6 when he he had ptsd cuz russian music, so it's implied his fainting was due the ptsd rather then the blast itself, as we saw him using it before and being perfectly fine afterwards. he also showed minimal sign of fatigue on 3x6 for a a ridiculously low period of time and seemed fine after a couple of seconds." Yeah the blast is used to varying effectiveness. The more he pours into it, the most it affects him, naturally. Hence why even when he consciously does it at the end of the season to kill all the boys, hes knocked out again and was captured. The weaker ones, he can walk away from. The ptsd blasts he cant control and as a result overwhelm him to the point where he loses consciousness. "the "sb did better against butcher" argument is also not valid as we know temp v has side effects on the user, progressively killing him the more doses he takes, with 3 to 4 doses being stated to be letal and butcher being at his sixth dose against soldier boy, therefore being at his weakest state" No sir. Thats not how it was shown to work at all. When Billy takes V each time, hes brand new. The effects of it dont degrade after every dose. He was just as healthy against Soldier boy as he was against Homelander. Even season 4 billy when he lets kessler take over is shown to be a much greater force than he was in the last season, despite being maybe a week or two away from dying. Its only when the V wears off does he erode. But good headcanon. "(it's interesting to note that soldier boy had more injuries than homelander did after fighting butcher even when facing a weaker version of him btw)." The only injury SB had was the cut on his cheek from the laser vision. The same lasers being strong enough to shoot homelander back and make him yelp, homie could barely stand after the shot. HL was actually bruised from the first fight unlike Soldier boy. So he lost on pure exhaustion, which makes sense considering how taxed he was going into the fight. "so ye homelander it's stated in all source materials to be above him and also showed to be above him, what else do you need to accept the truth?" Idiot.
I just want to point it out that the show conveys the fact that not all supes are blessed with super human durability, strength or speed. So supes like mesmer or sister sage only possess a unique ability and no enhanced physical prowess while supes like homelander, starlight, deep, stormfront have enhanced physical prowess and various other unique abilities respectively to their own bodies. Anyways I mostly agree with this tier list for the most part.
I would say new butchers powers scale much higher than previous butcher. I won't give details incase of possible spoilers for people but, I think it's quite obvious. There's also Ryan, I don't think he has many feats to place him, but upper A maybe S is probable from statements + the difference in damage to stormfront from lazer vision (accounting for Ryan going full force, and homelander probably pulling back, the scaling is a bit off).
No mention of emma? Little cricket was awesome. She didnt that much but her powers proved useful. She was able to infiltrate antop security lab, kill a guard, and she grew in size and was the only one able to stop sam she is powerful if underutilized so far. At least c tier
Man am i so excited to see s5 and see butcher use his tentacles more. Soldier Boys returning too and things are getting serious now after the finale. I’m gonna go crazy having to wait 2 years lol
The deep beating up starlight isn’t that impressive considering she didn’t have good control over her powers&that same starlight knocked out the deep with a 45P weight.
4:30 She doesn’t have telekinesis but pressure manipulation 4:53 Also kimiko isn’t immune to bullets so that’s why it hurts her she just has enhanced endurance (which is different from durability) 5:32 He doesn’t have diamond skin wtf? It’s closer to kevlar
I just know Starlight will be S tier once she gets her shit together. The ability to control light implies extensive control over visibility as well as heat. Imagine the world’s strongest magnifying glass on you, but everywhere.
I’d argue that soldier boys ability to destroy V and thus nullifying supes pushes him to S class alone
Yea he beats everybody in the verse besides Homelander. And even then it's dangerous for homelander.
When they fought at Herogasm soldier boy already busted his load lol, if he's fresh it's super close
It takes him over a minute to launch it except when he has ptsd. It’s fitting that Homelander is the only S tier but if anyone else would be in it, then yeah it would be Soldier Boy
@@AdaptedInfiltrator although it takes a while to launch the actual blast, in the scene with the tnt twins it is shown that even while charging, the V in other supes is still rendered ineffective.
@@irishwristwatch8645 I thought it was just because the tnt twins were out of practice for years. V Butcher and V Hughie were near Soldier Boy when he blasted Kimiko. They didn’t lose their powers then. Kimiko and Starlight kept their powers despite Soldier Boy charging up near them. The PTSD made his blast happen way faster for the tnt twins
I'd say he matches Homelander on S-Tier thanks to that ability, with his lack of flight/speed is being his main weakness. He lacks mobility, but definitely matches Homelander's endurance and physical strength clearly onscreen, with Butcher having similar powers couldn't really do much damage to him or slow him down a lot at the tower in the S3 finale.
If there was a hero with milk manipulation, homelander would be counting his days
In one comics there Superman becomes milkman it’s an actual thing search it up if you want
Firecracker there is
Wait until Mother's Milk gets his dose
Misfits milk man solos Homelander
@@Lumantrix If I remember correctly that was the 34th Superman comic right? He became a milkman but because he was so fast he became the leader of the milk company and essentially ruled over it. Search up superman milk rule 34 for more info.
He didnt even rank ryan, he soloed stormfromnt unintentionally being a 12 year olf kid
Personally i'd put him just lightly below temp v butcher
@@Muser920no what stormfront at the time was better than temp v butcher
@@starfishze612oh I doubt that lmao. Temp v butcher fought home lander all out.
@@starfishze612temp v butcher is only below Maeve, soldier boy, and homelander, in that order.
He would be stronger than homelander thats why butcher wanted him to fight
It’s a shame Kessler Butcher wasn’t mentioned
Wasn’t sure where to put him tbh. Need a bit more info to be sure
@@Professor_Fiction slightly below Temp V butcher until further notice.
@@Professor_Fiction honestly i feel like there was he is clearly above someone like neuman who he basically no diffed
@@error-4269 I'd put him on the same level or slightly higher tbh. Neuman was specifically pointed out to be absurdly durable even for a supe and his tendrils tore her apart like it was nothing
@@MrKeen-vy6yn but Neuman had no prep. Bigger question is, why didnt she Pop Butcher’s head or do any blood bending, the moment Butcher entered the room
Starlight is toothless, her powers are all bark but no bite.
Starlight is gonna be clockin next season just wait and she definitely on the top tiers in the verse
aw hell naw she could probably take on homelander. just blind the enemy and no laser eyes
@@BradPlayz11lmao no, starlight tried multiple times but is then stopped dead in her tracks by her realising homelander would instantly kill her.
@@fredbrad2036 heres some leaks about starlight in season 5 (1 is confirmed)
1. light speed flight. this will make her about 100 times faster then homelander and about 250 times faster than atrain (confirmed)
2. she will be able to absorb electromagnetic radiation (UV light, infrared light, gamma rays, etc)
3. she will be able to use her energy blasts as a beam, not just a big blast
if all these are true she will compete with homelander, especially since she could abosrb the infra red light from his beam (thats heat)
@@ryanstrilogyYea I don't think the end game fight is gonna be between homelander and starlight.I also don't think she's actually gonna fly at light speed
People complaining about homelander bleeding from steel straw to his ear like maeve ap isn't high enough to at least injury him in such a vulnerable area.
@elhood4060 Also HL wasnt even trying on Maeve
Yeah, but try to shove a plastic straw in some cardboard, and it'll crumple up, not go through the cardboard.
@@WhiteNoBeard471 now if you find a weak spot where it's wet and hit it hard.
Different story
@@elhood4060 if homelander's ears are that weak, he wouldn't really be all that puch of a threat. Just lob a bomb in the general area, and he's fucked
@@elhood4060agreed. Confirms soldier boy has greater durability
Its not a inconsistency that kimiko is vulnerable to bullets. Some super heros have super durability, others dont. Kimiko is one of the subes who dont have super durability, instead, she makes up for that with a high regenerative factor. Homelander on the other hand is bullet prof. Dont say its a "inconsistency" on the show's part because you didnt pay attention
Durability in the boys is very inconsistent, yeah your point on kimiko is right, but that doesn’t change that there are a LOT of inconsistencies
@@bigsolidjay8128 such as?
A lot of people point to homelander and the metal straw thing ignoring the fact that the person wilding the metal straw had super strenght AND it was shoved directly into his ear, a weak spot
@@bigsolidjay8128 I personally didn't notice any inconsistencies. Even in the show itself (or in Gen V) there is a news report or something that says a lot of supes exhibit superhuman durability. "A lot" means that there are supes that don't have superhuman durability.
@@tdl1315 Superman destroys Homelander
@@jenishmaharjan9655 ... Wtf does that have to do with my comment?
Soldier Boy shoud have been put in S category
Yep. He's a goddamn juggernaut. Probably the most durable known supe and has an op ability. Mobility is pretty much his only weakness.
Then v butcher too
@@DomenicoV-j6d nah v butcher doesnt have nuke nor can fly, however kessler butcher is S tier
@@heavenlysteel8337imagine he had homelanders flight too 💀
So should Ryan and Black Noir based on the cominc
The only argument that is convinsing soldier boy being stronger than homelander is his atomic blast ability whitch removes V from supes body
Theoretically it could one shot homelander
But in physical atributes homelander is indeed stronger
I mean Maeve was able to survive it
@@Lumantrix yea you're right homelander will not die but he shoud lost all Powers and when you are just a human soldier boy can kill you even when he is exhausted
@@AverageMicrosoftPaintEnjoyer yes
I don’t know about durability tho because if you look at solider boy vs homelander after their fight homelander seems more affected by it
@@nickisnotgnarly He does have a bruise
There's no inconsistency with the bullets in the show. Kimiko has never shown enhanced durability. Her body breaks the way a non-supe humans would, down to Frenchie being able to saw through her leg. She has super strength and regeneration, no super durability.
dude i was gonna say the same thing! kimiko has always had her skin penetrated by bullets it just regenerates, she doesn’t have the skin like homelander or even translucent
I'm no expert on the subject but I do believe Soldier Boy is still a better fighter then Homelander, not like Captain America or anything, just is pretty skilled, while Homelander is more just okay, that being said, yeah there's no way he's physically stronger then Homelander, come on guys! 😆
True, when homelander gos all out, he choked SB out, he's flat out stronger than everyone else, just fight poorly
Agreed. Soldier boy has shown similar, if not better combat compared to butcher who's obviously well trained and can contend with stronger people based on skill alone.
This video is biased, as Soldier boy doesn't just simply overpower butcher. He also had to find openings and knock butcher to the ground.
Soldier boy is a trained soldier and far skilled than homelander.
@@alatusedits soldier boy wasnt an actual soldier, he was a mascot just like homie the only difference was he got to actually participate in small events i.e the Nicaragua incident where he got captured and we got to see he was much more tactical compared to Homelander and was much more utilizing of his weapons like the shield he used on black noir
Bro solider boy has a godzilla type blast that strips supes of their power. WTF he is easily S tier
@@bluey8302 That has nothing to do with my comment?
1:43 Sister Sage does actually have regeneration. It’s not particularly good but it can heal her from a bullet to the head. She has to lobotomies her brain regularly to prevent it from killing her thanks to her regenerative abilities
The issue is its only her brain that's regenerative. You shoot her anywhere else and she's dead.
@@ProjektTaku That’s right, but it’s still regenerative abilities regardless be it weak ones in a specific but crucial part of her body. So she has enhanced intelligence and regenerative abilities
@@KlynerKaiOffical again, you shoot her in the heart, neck, or anywhere aside from the brain, and she's dead. Its only useful if someone didn't know your brain could regenerate and decided to shoot it. Also the regen lowers her intelligence for a while, so its more like one or the other.
When I said no other enhanced abilities I meant so far in that it pertains to combat. If anyone above tier E punched her in the head they’d probably cave her skull in not much to regenerate from there
Is it actually stated she NEEDS to do it? I thought she only lobotomized herself so she can enjoy being normal.
12:00 Marie can also manipulate the blood of others, she did it first episode to save the ladie the dead black magneto kid almost kid. May his actor rest in peace
And in the last episode by killing one of the supes from the Woods
And here to say the same thing
You got it backwards. Marie is more talented than Neuman. Neuman saw the potential in Marie and was considering her as her successor.
Neuman was just more skilled than Marie outright stating the experience gap.
Maeve also tanked soilder boy's strongest explosion, one that was considered powerful enough to even kill butcher and homelander. This explosion also completely inconpasitated soilder boy while maeve was still able to walk
@@IridescentIrene mostly true tho you can argue that he didn’t get up because he was drugged during the explosion and therefore might’ve been using a last resort nuke
The explosion isn’t what knocked out soldier boy, it was using the explosion that knocked him out
@@IsThatAThaiNameI thought it was the gas
@@ashuprice9719 could also have contributed
@@IsThatAThaiNameit was the gas in his mind he thought he could probably pull off that blast take down everyone and wake up from it because if you see his face it looks like he’s about to be knocked out
Marie is also able to manipulate the blood of others’. This is shown in Gen v quite a bit where she can help them survive and use their blood as a weapon
Wasn't Starlight mental nerfed against The Deep? I genuinely feel if in her proper condition she would blast the shit out of him quite easily.
Deep has like… better inverse over her
@@Rdc_Dom Yeah tho it’s implied that wasn’t even her right? Wasn’t that after the shapeshifter took her?
@@millasboono that was before did you not watch the episode
@@millasboono bruh
Yep. Her light power wasn’t working, and Deep sucker punched her. Without those factors, it would have been closer and I dare say she would have won especially if she remembered to go for his gills which she conveniently forgot till after A-Train saved her. The earlier seasons definitely pointed to Starlight beating Deep if they fought, but this season nerfed her for a majority, and honestly buffed Deep
A-Train should be higher, he can basically teleport with how fast he can move. I think low A-tier would fit him better or maybe higher B
Firecracker in D seems generous. And I’d maybe argue that a train and noir are A. Soldier boy S. But great list
I would put the deep lower than starlight considering he was terrified of fighting her throughout season one and only was able to beat her in the recent season due to her having lost her light-manipulation powers. He definitely has better durability and strength though considering he could beat the powerless starlight despite her undoubtedly having more skill and experience in hand-to-hand combat.
I did discuss him after but I don’t necessarily think he would win a fight, which is why I put characters in tiers. I think for the most part, characters in the same tier could have a very intense, 50/50 brawl with one another, but I do think Starlight would probably beat the Deep overall
@@Professor_Fiction🤓he beats he in water
i think a train should be higher, a tier. if he always utilized his superspeed practically no one could be able to land a hit on him except homelander if you consider his lazer vision lightspeed
Everyone in A-Tier would likely eat his blows for breakfast and considering their scaling to Homelander wouldn’t be all to hard to hit him
@@Professor_Fiction with the show's consistency, I agree, but if his reaction time was the same throughout then no, but since he missed hitting the deep once he definitely gets hit by a tiers
Bro can’t run for more than 2 seconds without his heart exploding, so no
@@ImHerbert-moondid you not watch season 4?
@@ImHerbert-moonbrother you've got some catching up to do
The Golden boy statement is obv referring to popularity, not strength. I though that was obvious.
That was an editing mistake. There’s a second statement down the line in reference to power
12:45 I am pretty sure the proffesor meant he could be bigger than homelander popularity wise, not strenght wise, he did say bigger not stronger after all
5:35 Starlight was shot with your basic 50. BMG, And i dont hink it even knckoked the air out of Annie.
0:18 internal body parts are more sensitive bro 😭
Firecracker in class d...mind you she got knocked out by a crowbar and the kimiko she was fighting was a drunk kimiko. Simp
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While i agree with homelander being stronger than soldier boy butcher was never portrayed to better in hand 2 hand that soldier boy in that fight. Hell, that clip you showed doesn't even agree with your statement.
Some points:
Love your breakdown of Maeve v Homelander, a lot of people try to undermine her performance in that fight with the holding back narrative even though this only accounted for 30 seconds of their 5+ minutes long fight (including in the background of Soldier Boy v everyone). Her performance here was the best we've seen so far against HL even tho Soldier Boy's hype and radiation blast places him slightly higher.
I disagree with Starlight being below Kimiko and Deep. S4 gave her a lot of solid combat feats. Im primarily impressed by her performance against the Shifter, someone who is casually bulletproof and has immense strength and fighting ability. Her durability is top tier in the verse and her powers seem to be growing in potency and versatility. She belongs either at the top of C tier or bottom of B tier with A-Train.
Marie is a bit too low considering her internal attacks, which can't really be blocked or countered. She's arguably the strongest of the Gen v lot.
I think a few of the Gen V kids could stand to go lower, like Sam below Stormfront and jordan and golden boy lower in b tier. I'd place all of them except Marie below Black Noir, Starlight and A-Train.
Otherwise, great ranking, very well researched.
I think soldier boy would whoop maeve but that’s just me
0:51 base mindstorm dogwalks everyone below butcher and maeve wtf are you smoking. HE MADE SOLDIER BOY BLEED.
he also took a bloodlusted shield tackle and started getting up, so there's like 4 characters that can even damage him.
Finally someone who understands how powerful mindstorm was
@@Lumantrix fr. and the insane durability is literally decades out of his prime. it seems like a lot of youtubers just yoink their scaling from vbw or some other forum without a second thought. they probably don't actually watch the show or only half payed attention to it.
another one is the tnt twins. they blitzed soldier boy so bad they made him look like neferpitou, and left more damage than giga amp'd starlight. yet people think noir can beat them.
@@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap Exactly even Crimson countess projectile was able to knock SoldierBoy back and even her punch did some damage Payback definitely had some powerful members also them wiping out Mallory’s men was probably on purpose and not by bad planning because they didn’t want anyone to see SoldierBoy getting beaten
mindstorm didn’t make soldier boy bleed, watch the fight more carefully he punched soldier boy then black noir gave several more punches that made him bleed not mindstorm
@@Randomperson11121 take your own advice.
mindstorm drew blood first, then noir punched out his teeth. soldier boy's face is already bloody before noir punches him. noir just made it bloodier.
3:45 kimiko doesnt have enhanced durability, she just can regenerate any injuries
She didn't take any damage from A-Train repeatedly hitting her head on a concrete wall, she obviously isn't as durable as Starlight, but she's definitely more durable than the average person
@@_Yomboand bullets to the body she took no damage
@@Lumantrix Dude, the bullets literally can harm her and even get her out of combat if the shot is directly on the head.
@@josuesoria4243 I know that why I said if it hits her body
@@Lumantrix are you talking about Starlight?
The way supes are portrayed is not inconsistent.The ones that get beat up by average people just don't have super strength.
The Deep couldn’t break through a wooden door, but later boxed with Starlight
Exactly 😂. Like even Billy vs noir was still enhanced on v and was literally almost ended entirely but the noir was narcoleptic
A member of the Seven, the most illustrious and powerful heroes, was knocked to the ground by a bullet. This was in a season spent majorly discussing the “Invincible and Indestructible Super Heroes” joining the army and how tanks, missiles and fighter jets wouldn’t even scratch them
@@s.owl9 wasn't he drugged then? I'm pretty sure that could have interfered with his abilities.
@@Professor_Fiction And which member was was that again?
10:23 background music name plzz plzz plzz 😅
That just means the person who stabbed him with the straw was stronger or faster than the machine gun also wasn’t it in Homelander’s ear like…
The fact that Soldier Boy can disable superpowers is a huge perk that the video doesn't adres and that should put him in the S-tier as well.
Ryan is probably S-tier as well, or at least has the potential to become. From what we've seen in S2 and S4 he's already easily in the A tier at age 12.
finally someone that doesnt think soldier boy is the strongest. The show made it clear just like you said.
Nah Soldier Boy would erase maeve
He was out of commission with the strongest sedatives for years.
Keep him awake and busy and he would rek Homelander as well.
soldier boy was locked up in a 1 foot room whit gas that weakend him for years and homlander was almost at his strongest while fighting soldier boy
you forgot to mention that in The Boys Diabolical when the people are blaming Homelander after the shotgun explodes(same chapter he and noir fight) he has a little flashback of him as a kid fighting grown men, so he was likely trained ever since he was able to talk until he was 18 non stop.
You made a false comment about Marie while you were discussing Neumann. Marie can also manipulate other people's blood, which is shown several times near the end of Gen V
Thus far she hasn’t had a full grasp on using it at will, otherwise she could have done as much to the Supe threatening Ashley and the Vought execs but instead used blood blades. To me, her use of it seems to be in short bursts surrounding heightened emotions, like memories of her trauma or when Jordan was about to be controlled, not something she has full mastery of yet
@@Professor_Fiction The important distinction is can't vs can but hasn't developed the skill for it
Sure, she “can” but that doesn’t mean it’s sometbing she actually does. In a fight, Marie’s standard go to is always creating blood whips or weapons. I wouldn’t say Homelander “can” just fly above everyone else in the series and laser them from above because it’s not something he usually does
@@Professor_Fiction I think we're losing sight of what I was originally trying to point out. All I'm getting at is that saying ". . far more advanced version of what Marie Moreau does, capable of manipulating the blood of others rather than her own" is false when on several occasions Marie has used her powers on other people's blood.
To call them out specifically: blowing up Rufus' junk, detecting the tracking probes in the cast's necks, detecting the Compound V in Neuman's blood, conjuring a swarm of blood knives in the final fight, and blowing up Cate's hand. Now that I see the list, I'm inclined to say that the only thing holding her back from being on Neuman's level is a lack of practice
Considering I was discussing I think 20-30 characters I was generalizing points that I didn’t think were worth discussing. Yes, Marie can manipulate the blood of others, but it’s not something she’s prone to apply in combat effectively or at all. The way Neuman describes it is that external manipulating blood is exhausting while popping people is pretty efficient, which I tried to surmise
great content - love your ops scaling esp
Shouldn't Ryan be S-tier as well? He seems to have equipotent skill and power potential as Homelander. He mutilated and disabled Stormfront without even trying.
When Homelander said Soldier Boy was almost as strong as him - that was because enhancements. Soldier Boys' power of explosion probably gives him the edge in that he has a better ability to kill Homelander than Homelander has to kill him.
In the coming weeks there will be a video taking a closer look at who is really stronger/the better fighter between Homelander and Solder Boy
The Peak is S+++ and would solo an army of one million Homelanders, only stopping at a million because he would crave a blooming onion from Outback and abandon the conflict to go get it
I figured new Noir>old, since new only got pushed back but seemingly not pierced by a bunch of minigun bullets. Meanwhile old got pierced by a handgun bullet. Unless, the torso armor is tougher than the gloves?? I don’t think new Noir not neutralizing Butcher is enough reason to put him below new Noir. Old Noir hit Butcher into a wall. New Noir didn’t, and had to fight Butcher who had a shotgun. Meanwhile old Noir fought Butcher who had only a crowbar. Also, new Noir can fly.
HL is superior vs Soldier Boy but mainly due to better mobility and heat vision.
If things for whatever reason go bad (rarely since HL is a little stronger) he can blast SB from distance or if he can't harm him just grab him and fly/throw him into the ocean/low earh orbit before he activates his blast.
great list, I agree with pretty much everything
Really happy you assessed Starlight fairly while acknowledging her potential!!!
I always found the SB v Homelander debate really weird; how many times does it need to be shown or outright stated that Homelander is the strongest Supe?
I think his fight against Maeve is also talked about as though it was more even than it actually was. Maeve was nearly downed several times in the fight without too much of a struggle, and suffered the loss of an eye. Homelander had a nose bleed and a straw jammed in his ear, which didn't seem to cause much permanent damage.
She’s definitely far far inferior to Homelander. The debate mainly comes down to Maeve vs Butcher realistically in my opinion
he was getting his ass whooped but he needed to use cheap shots like an eye gouge on a girl lol does that not say anything to you
@@cengix8850 What in the world are you talking about? First of all, going off about "cheap shots" in this universe is crazy, especially when you consider that Maeve went for him while his back was turned, punched him in the groin and jammed a straw into a sensitive part of the body (like the eye, ears are also sensitive, especially the inner area).
Gouging someone's eye out is a valid move in a fight to the death, I don't know what else to say. Even without that, if you look at the shots that landed he was clearly winning the fight despite Maeve catching him off guard and him clearly holding back for at least a portion of the fight. This should not be surprising; he is the strongest Supe, he's built to be physically more powerful than the rest of them.
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Didn’t a way weakens starlight bully the shapeshifter that bullied kimiko?
I feel like kimiko just lost so that starlight could have her moment but unfortunately the fact is that starlights performance despite being heavily weakened made kimiko look bad
I do think Starlight is certainly superior as of now but not by a world of difference
Super Sonic can break glass by only clapping - so he can make a sonic clap like Hulk.
Great video! I really hope Maeve returns for Season 5 even if briefly. She'd probably use Temp V on herself if she felt her and Elena were in danger again.
I don't think this guy understands that the entire point of supes is they vary in strength. That's why Homelander is at the top. He is stronger. He is smarter. He is better. Some supes, like Kimiko, regenerate fast but can be injured by bullets. Others are more like Victoria Neuman: durable enough for bullets to bounce off of them. It's not an "inconsistency" for two different superhuman characters to have two different levels of durability and strength.
What I meant is that the story one episode will tell us “all Supes are invincible” or “all Supes are bullet proof” or “the Supes can shake off military technology like missiles” then have Supes get hurt by rifles, hand guns, and punches
@@Professor_Fiction
It's Supe technology as a whole. Most supes have super strength. Most supes have super durability. Almost all supes have better hearing. But that trait varies between all supes, ranging from Mesmer to Soldier Boy, who is free to do whatever he wants because they could not kill him if they wanted to.
In plural, yes. Supes could probably shake off most military technology because 1 Homelander beats an entire country's army, as nothing short of a nuclear warhead can harm him. Put Kimiko in the same situation and it's a different story.
Sort of. Butcher and Frenchie have both implied at various points of the series that killing a supe either is nearly impossible and takes months of preparation and planning, until it doesn’t. I don’t think it’s world breaking levels of inconsistency but they do have some very broadly speaking statements about supes in general
@@Professor_Fiction The power dynamics vary between the seasons. In season 1, they had to rely on their brains and arduous planning, while in season 3 they had V24 and Soldier Boy to help them out, just to be back at square 1 for most of Season 4 save for Kimiko and Starlight. Their statements are true, though. Take the original Boys without Kimiko and they truly need several months of planning to take down a supe.
I wasn't a big fan of the convenient existence of a virus that can just kill any supe like that, especially with how it got overshadowed by Butcher's new powers in the end, but overall, supes still have that same powerful aura of a ticking time bomb that can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Season 5 is the exception. The entire narrative of season 5 is probably gonna be a massacre of supes.
2:10 when was it specifically mentioned again Tek Knight was one of the top heroes
He says that Homelander and himself are "the top 2", also since he was the one presenting that one panel in season 4, he's likely to be pretty successful
@@WhiteNoBeard471 Homelander literally says he's nothing, although I do believe he's probably one of the more popular Supes, he's apparently not popular enough to join the Seven.
@@ProjektTaku Squirt says that in reference to power, not popularity
While prime homelander is likely stronger,currently soldier boy is probably no 1,since he doesnt age,and homelander is aging and weakening,and will only grow weaker
We don't know that he's weakening. He could just be aging while maintaining his strength levels.
@@ProjektTaku No,aging weakens you,by almost definition aging is just the breaking down of the body.The fact that his hair is graying is evidence that his dna and stuff isn't functioning as well.Remember,sister sage made these observations regarding his age due to his physical appearance,meaning the biology of his body is being affected
It's also a parralel with how his mind is obviously degrading
He is aging, but he's still only middle aged so he's probably not any weaker just yet. Season 4 only takes place 6 months after season 3 and Homelander was already stronger than soldier Boy by a slight margin. Unless you think people get physically weaker after only 6 months Homelander should still be stronger. Plus the narrative hasn't suggested that Homelander is any weaker yet.
@@Rdc_Dom Yeah,that kinda makes sense,but Sage implies his fight with soldier boy fucked him up unnaturally somehow,I don't even know what she meant by that though tbf
@@amogus1415Fighting the father you dreamed to be family with.Thats what she meant.
In the comics, Tek Knight doesn't have Compound V, but he does wear an Iron-Man parody suit that enhances his strength, durability, intelligence, and speed. If the show had more budget, then Tek Knight's suit would rank well beyond A or S Tier (at least B Tier)
“Bigger than homelander” doesn’t mean stronger, it means more popular. This is so simple.
You not even mentioning soldiers boys blast ability makes for an underestimation of his power.
It was originally included but seemed unnecessary since the video was already so long. There will be an in-depth video about Soldier Boy soon
I think where this list screwed the pooch is mixing Feats with the actual Powers/Capabilities. If you stuck with Powers and their potential this list would've been significantly more consistent.
Examples:
-The Deep is getting folded by Powered Up Starlight.
-Kimiko's Brother doesn't have crazy Durability, but that's not where he shines anyways, ripping a Helicopter out of the sky isn't something even some of the B Tiers can do. Yet he's still on the same level as his Sister that he easily flung out of existence.
-Kate folded the entire Gen V cast, and was literally only stopped by Marie at the end, Kate's power is OP, she may not be bullet proof or super durable but influencing Supes even as strong as Sam and Goldenboy is NOT something we should overlook.
-Hughie got a surprise punch off of Homelander, Teleporting isn't that crazy in dealing damage compared to something consistent like A-Train's speed or his Dad's Phasing Through ability.
I got your next video right here "which heroes from the boys can join the S-class?"
That one’s pretty obvious. None of them can. Homelander is at best around A class.
Nah, it should be: which the boys hero can beat mumen rider
Even the top tiers of the verse are A-Class level at best. Puri Puri Prisoner solos The Boys.
@@PYRO-TF2-REAL holy shit bro you're so fucking hilarious have you done stand up yet? Holy fuck you should be on Joe Rogan podcast my god your so fucking funny
@@Ronythereditor thank you mate
It's just funny to think that Homelander would allow Golden boy to join the Seven. The latter would've gone too jealous and ended up killing him.
I personally would swap Marie and Neuman on this list, because I believe Marie clearly has a more versatile control over blood than Neuman since Neuman would need to see her targets with her eyes to begin with. Marie would probably go higher on this list in Gen V S2.
Eh Marie doesn't have nearly.ad much durability or firepower. Maybe eventually but not yet
Ryan belongs in S tier with Homelander
Can't believe the actor who plays Andre died. Loved him in Sabrina
soldier boy just losing energy when he blowing up and when he fought homelander at first he was already weak because of blowing, thats why homelander took him, homelander doesn't stand a chance in hand to hand combat, if he uses the laser, soldier boy easily can use the shield until homelander stops, there is nothing else to do for fight so soldier boy could've take him. just we didn't saw soldier boy in a fight without losing energy against homelander. soldier boy is a soldier he saw a lot of wars he knows how to fight he got a lot of fighting skills.
you havent watched the show have you?
@@huhbooh i did brotha
@@liohheditz_ then you werent paying attention cause everything you said was complete bs
@@huhbooh no bro its true
@@liohheditz_ then 1. Prove soldier boy was weakened after using his blast 2. Soldier boy has 0 fighting skills he has only ever fought normal humans or supes significantly weaker than him 3. It is literally stated by everyone soldier boy is weaker than homelander
i feel like tek knight is stronger than people think, he was very confident that he could simply rip kate’s hand off
Well cate isnt exactly a physically strong supe
@@tysonpeterson9552 people act like he doesn’t have super strength
@@frostflame45 I think that's just with the suit.
Ah, yes! The legendary Kate who's able to go 1v1 with Goku himself, as seen in episode 24 of gen Z
Regarding Frenchie saying "its nearly impossible to take out a supe" he means those who have the seemingly common damage resistance, like from Starlight to Translucent, just Translucent was perhaps slightly more resistant, but its been mentioned that even a nuke cant hurt Homelander, so it appears to be a spectrum.
Mesmer was on the lower end, he was a supe, but he only had his unique trait, if he also had the common resistance trait he would have been an actual threat, but he just lived a normal life with normal problems.
Those wernt the kinda supes Frenchie was talking about.
Soldier Boy can apparently take away your powers so hes gotta be S tier
Ryan’s blast toward Soldier Boy was suppressed compared to the one in S2
Soldier boy just woke up from his imprisonment days before fighting homelander so I imagine prime soldier boy would put up a good fight and earn a spot at least top of A tier
I believe soldier boy>Homelander, because you’re overestimating how much of a power gap was shown at herogasm, their fight lasted a good amount of time , and throughout it they were completely even, while not outright stated, its heavily implied and visible that soldier boy using his blast weakens him temporarily, he can comtrol how much energy he shoots out, and he went all out at herogasm, seconds after he had to fight homelander. And you’re forgetting that the person who is stating soldier boy to be “nearly as strong as homelander” is homelander himself, what was he gonna say, “youre the only one more powerful than me?” Ofc not. He was crapping his pants about fighting soldier boy, and for good reason. You can make a case for both parties, but i think soldier boy’s is the strongest.
Soldierboy with his nuclear blast is easily the most dangerous one
“Starlight was taken down by a gun” they literally specified that she was shot by a .50 CAL SNIPER RIFLE, a gun known to be extremely powerful, and even then she wasn’t even injured and got up like it was nothing.
The problem being that the heroes at this point are being compared to the highest level of military weapons(barring nukes) which any normal firearm really shouldn’t be able to do anything too
8:07 was that a smoke alarm
Soldier boy is literally indestructible, and can remove people’s powers, how does a maxed out home lander even deal with that? The only thing stopping him from killing everyone at the finale was lesbian plot armor.
since homelander can fly at incredible speed he will never hit him, homelander is also stronger so he wins
By choking him out? He still needs to breathe
@@vovale1262 if this is true, why did he not do this in the show in either of their fight scenes?
@@_Yombo do you not think the Russians would have tried that? It’s set up he’s invincible, that would be a bit pointless if all that was needed is to be choked.
Not everything is woke bro
I’m sorry for asking this question because I don’t want to sound stupid but here goes: If Stormfront shoots lightning/electricity, and Starlight can power up with electricity…why couldn’t she absorb or redirect Stormfront’s lightning?
Because it's tesla and not lighting or electricity
Why didnt you rank ryan?
Everyone in Boys when the Deep gets to know about Brain eating amoeba
Supersonic in E is an absolute robbery
0:20 this isn’t a reach bc the metal was stabbed into his ear with the strength of a top supe
The metal itself has limited durability though.
@@Necrodzentelmenel1 So does Homelander
@@_Yombo
Precisely.
Homelander says you were the only one almost as strong as me to deter soldier boy not as a literal factual statement. If soldier boy would’ve blasted homelander he either would’ve made him lose his powers or homelander would get stronger or something since he was born with powers idk
???? He is still strong bc of V wether or not he was injected or born with it doesn't matter and soldier boys power removes the v from your cells making you a normal human
@@defender1214 I was just saying that soldier boy is one of the strongest characters in the show next to homelander not below him,
and blasting homelander would make him normal and killable with what you said I wasn’t sure since homelander is different then other supes
I’m not sure golden boy could beat noir and a train personally
Noir got burned by a hot car, Golden Boy melts him
@@_Yombo he survived the explosion from naqib and healed.
@@Mr_cosmic404 An explosion isn't the same as constant fire on him, plus he didn't heal instantly
@@_Yombo when did I ever say instantly.
@@Mr_cosmic404 You didn't so I don't see the point in saying that since he won't be able to outheal Golden Boy's flames
Didn't Marie prove to also be able to manipulate others blood, as she did saving the girl in episode 1?
For Butcher having a cut on his face 1v1 when fighting Homelander remember that Butcher did get hit by the shockwave of the blast which was strong enough to KO him. Homelander’s lasers KOd him again. As for Soldier Boy/Black Noir, I think Noir could have stabbed him elsewhere besides the skin. Other supes have been bled via getting stabbed in the eyes, ears, etc
Soldier Boy has the broken ability to disable compound v if he gets off the blast on homelander & he doesn't age like homelander, while homelander is physically stronger, faster, more durable, can fly & shoot lasers.
The sheer number of homelander's abilities other than his strenght also clealy makes him the strongest supe. He spotted hughie from a drop of sweat, and he also heard a-train quietly cussing and don't forget how the boys had to make a room out of metal foil just so homelander doesn't fly by and sees them through walls. And people like to downplay his intelligence and skills just because they dislike him. He's infact very smart and skilled, he's just acts the way he does because he was manipulated as a child.
He really isnt that smart. He did one thing was get neuman to vetray edgar bybusing her child againt her thats it
Solider Boy is S Tier with HomeLander
Damn how could you not rank Kate?
Okay I like how you addressed the two main arguments for Soldier Boy being stronger or at least equal to Homelander.
So to start you say that his "claim to fame" is the fact that hes ALMOST as strong as Homelander. The reason this isnt a convincing argument is that its all in theory. There is really no way anyone could have accurately assessed the physical strength and speed difference between them since Soldier Boy was long gone before Homelander. Neither man has ever had their limits really pushed as grown adults.
Also anyone that was educated on Soldier Boy and Homelander would be speaking generally. "Stronger" would refer to all their respective abilities, which Homelander has a lot more of. Hes "stronger' because hes better, and theres reason to believe that excludes pure physical strength. I doubt their most important area of assessment is their bench maxes, more likely its testing who can fly or has super smell or can see through walls or who can shoot lasers out of their eyes. I think you catch my drift.
Onto the actual arguments. You say it was never stated or commented on that Soldier boy is weakened after firing a blast, therefore nerfed before fighting homelander. Thats KIND of true. He never direct states or makes the excuse that he only lost the fight due to the blast, but he DOES comment that he blacked out after doing it the second time in the city. for 10 WHOLE minutes. And you see him stumbling into the room almost limping at herogasm after the blast and even has to ask what happened. Now to me its quite the reach to think none of these side effects carried on in a fight with the most power being to ever exist. Even if you think somehow his strength or concentration or gas tank werent at all affected from firing a ptsd induced radioactive blast from your body that only became a thing you can do after being tortured day and night, even if you thought that, blacking out and losing memory isnt at all the sort of condition you can send someone to fight under and still call it their absolute best.
In their next confrontation Soldier boy grabs his jaw and homelander couldnt do anything about it. Watch the scene and listen very closely after the grab. You can hear homelander throw 3 punches at Soldier boy before Maeve and Billy grab his arms. So a healthy Solder boy can just eat 3 punches from homelander and not loses the grip on his jaw at all. To me thats very damning. Its very telling that at his best, SB is physically superior to homelander.
Onto the other argument that SB did better against Billy than HL, thats my personal favorite argument.
You say Billy and Homelanders fight never reached its conclusion, but the amount we do get is very telling. Homelander cant hamper billy in any way from the several uncontested shots he lands on him. Billy actually SMILES after the several hits because hes relishing his ability to bang it out with him. Homelander had SEVERAL hits but couldnt significantly damage Billy.
Compare this will Soldier boy who actually knocks billy out twice, the second time being way more dominantly. Sure the two fought for longer, but there isnt much reason to think that unseen amount would be different from what we see. Billy won a few exchanges, but SB was never in any harm and didnt get hurt. He overcame Billy even just skill wise during the fight. Then he drops him against later.
Homelander wasnt gonna win against Billy and Soldier boy. He knocked Soldier boy away and had billy against the wall, but Billy wasnt helpless. He was still fighting back just as well, he wasnt getting choked to death like Soldider boy. So that isnt much good either. Plus against...Soldier boy was weakened.
everything you said doesn't really matter when it's verbatim stated multiple times by different source materials that homelander is physically stronger and more powerful than soldier boy.
you're yet to show substancial evidence for the blast weakening soldier boy's physical capabilities, he used the blast against kimiko on 3x4 and walked out like nothing happened a second after using it, not showing any sign of fatigue or physical weakening, the exact same happened when he used the blast on crimson countess on 3x5, again, not a single sign of fatigue, and the one time he blacked out was on 3x6 when he he had ptsd cuz russian music, so it's implied his fainting was due the ptsd rather then the blast itself, as we saw him using it before and being perfectly fine afterwards. he also showed minimal sign of fatigue on 3x6 for a a ridiculously low period of time and seemed fine after a couple of seconds.
homelander and soldier boy encounter in 3x8 isn't valid for arguing sb is above him as homelander was off guarded and holding back as he stated he didn't want to fight soldier boy multiple times during that episode.
the "sb did better against butcher" argument is also not valid as we know temp v has side effects on the user, progressively killing him the more doses he takes, with 3 to 4 doses being stated to be letal and butcher being at his sixth dose against soldier boy, therefore being at his weakest state (consistent with the fact that his brain tumor was getting worse with each dose he took; it's stated in 3x8 that his brain was turning into swiss cheese), since we know the more doses he takes the weaker he gets then 3x6 butcher > 3x8 butcher as he would've taken less doses, so homelander fought a stronger butcher, so it's invalid to affirm soldier boy is above him due performing better against a weaker butcher (it's interesting to note that soldier boy had more injuries than homelander did after fighting butcher even when facing a weaker version of him btw).
so ye homelander it's stated in all source materials to be above him and also showed to be above him, what else do you need to accept the truth?
@@rodrigomartinsanimations did you actually read everything I said? Just wondering.
@@Small_child_punter of course i did, thats exactly why i debunked your main arguments lol
@@rodrigomartinsanimations I really doubt you did since you started off by saying something like “none of this matters”, but fine. When I feel like it I’ll skim through your comment.
@@rodrigomartinsanimations "everything you said doesn't really matter when it's verbatim stated multiple times by different source materials that homelander is physically stronger and more powerful than soldier boy."
First of all, you wouldnt have said the more powerful part if you actually read what i said where i admitted why Homlander is better than him. Id love to hear where its directly stated hes phyiscally stronger.
"you're yet to show substancial evidence for the blast weakening soldier boy's physical capabilities" Not only did i tell you a direct moment where Soldier boy was visibly physically affected after firing a blast, and not only did i directly compare his performances from when he recently fired a blast to when he didnt, but i ALSO made the point that even if you were to reach and say he isnt at all affected by it (and just so we're clear, that is a reach since being knocked out from a nuke you keep inside yourself is definitely negatively impacting you), just the fact that he went unconscious already disqualifies the contest from being a totally legitimate loss. I like your energy so far, definitely seems like you responded to me expected to be able to change your mind on this.
"he used the blast against kimiko on 3x4 and walked out like nothing happened a second after using it, not showing any sign of fatigue or physical weakening, the exact same happened when he used the blast on crimson countess on 3x5, again, not a single sign of fatigue, and the one time he blacked out was on 3x6 when he he had ptsd cuz russian music, so it's implied his fainting was due the ptsd rather then the blast itself, as we saw him using it before and being perfectly fine afterwards. he also showed minimal sign of fatigue on 3x6 for a a ridiculously low period of time and seemed fine after a couple of seconds."
Yeah the blast is used to varying effectiveness. The more he pours into it, the most it affects him, naturally. Hence why even when he consciously does it at the end of the season to kill all the boys, hes knocked out again and was captured. The weaker ones, he can walk away from. The ptsd blasts he cant control and as a result overwhelm him to the point where he loses consciousness.
"the "sb did better against butcher" argument is also not valid as we know temp v has side effects on the user, progressively killing him the more doses he takes, with 3 to 4 doses being stated to be letal and butcher being at his sixth dose against soldier boy, therefore being at his weakest state"
No sir. Thats not how it was shown to work at all. When Billy takes V each time, hes brand new. The effects of it dont degrade after every dose. He was just as healthy against Soldier boy as he was against Homelander. Even season 4 billy when he lets kessler take over is shown to be a much greater force than he was in the last season, despite being maybe a week or two away from dying. Its only when the V wears off does he erode. But good headcanon.
"(it's interesting to note that soldier boy had more injuries than homelander did after fighting butcher even when facing a weaker version of him btw)."
The only injury SB had was the cut on his cheek from the laser vision. The same lasers being strong enough to shoot homelander back and make him yelp, homie could barely stand after the shot. HL was actually bruised from the first fight unlike Soldier boy. So he lost on pure exhaustion, which makes sense considering how taxed he was going into the fight.
"so ye homelander it's stated in all source materials to be above him and also showed to be above him, what else do you need to accept the truth?"
Idiot.
The deep can't even break a locked door when freaking out and gets KO by the earths gravity The Peak
Yet punches through a stone pillar
I just want to point it out that the show conveys the fact that not all supes are blessed with super human durability, strength or speed. So supes like mesmer or sister sage only possess a unique ability and no enhanced physical prowess while supes like homelander, starlight, deep, stormfront have enhanced physical prowess and various other unique abilities respectively to their own bodies. Anyways I mostly agree with this tier list for the most part.
I would say new butchers powers scale much higher than previous butcher. I won't give details incase of possible spoilers for people but, I think it's quite obvious.
There's also Ryan, I don't think he has many feats to place him, but upper A maybe S is probable from statements + the difference in damage to stormfront from lazer vision (accounting for Ryan going full force, and homelander probably pulling back, the scaling is a bit off).
what about ryan? he damaged stormfront pretty badly
There is ONE that is stronger than Homelander and this is Ryan, everything points out to the fact that he is the strongest when motivated
10:22 a train what the hell are you doing to kimuko
No mention of emma? Little cricket was awesome. She didnt that much but her powers proved useful. She was able to infiltrate antop security lab, kill a guard, and she grew in size and was the only one able to stop sam she is powerful if underutilized so far. At least c tier
Man am i so excited to see s5 and see butcher use his tentacles more. Soldier Boys returning too and things are getting serious now after the finale. I’m gonna go crazy having to wait 2 years lol
The deep beating up starlight isn’t that impressive considering she didn’t have good control over her powers&that same starlight knocked out the deep with a 45P weight.
4:30 She doesn’t have telekinesis but pressure manipulation 4:53 Also kimiko isn’t immune to bullets so that’s why it hurts her she just has enhanced endurance (which is different from durability) 5:32 He doesn’t have diamond skin wtf? It’s closer to kevlar
Not too sure the distinction matters but she literally made a boat float in the sky. And Translucents skin has been called “diamond skin” before
cindy has telekinesis, she lifted a boat in the season finale, and the amazon prime trivia confirms its telekinesis
I just know Starlight will be S tier once she gets her shit together. The ability to control light implies extensive control over visibility as well as heat. Imagine the world’s strongest magnifying glass on you, but everywhere.
Lol
I have a feeling that Solider Boy Will Kill Homelander in Season 5
The director of the show confirmed Homelander and Soldier Boy are teaming up against Butcher