U7-Pro is HERE! Testing UniFi's First Wi-Fi 7 Access Point

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  • @OldMadScientist
    @OldMadScientist 11 місяців тому +311

    Not having 4x4 on the U7 Pro is a mistake on Ubiquiti's part. They should have called it the U7 Lite.

    • @j340_official
      @j340_official 11 місяців тому +5

      Given that most WiFi client devices are 2x2 max, why do you say that ?

    • @rpungello
      @rpungello 11 місяців тому +72

      @@j340_official doesn't 4x4 allow two 2x2 devices to communicate at full speed simultaneously? If you only have one device active at a time sure, there's no benefit, but when you have a lot of devices my understanding is 4x4 is better.

    • @Ancaruin
      @Ancaruin 11 місяців тому

      Exactly!@@rpungello

    • @mika2666
      @mika2666 11 місяців тому +15

      Gotta keep things for the enterprise i guess

    • @tillmannfischer
      @tillmannfischer 11 місяців тому +1

      It's going to be at least another year, perhaps even two, before Ubiquiti upgrades the entire AP product range again. At that point, they'll probably also release a new Enterprise version, whereas the U7 Lite will most likely indeed have pretty similar specs but in a smaller package (I wouldn't be surprised if they kept the true and tried shell of the Nano/U6 Lite).

  • @ZOMBIEC0RP
    @ZOMBIEC0RP 11 місяців тому +224

    2x2 radios across the board make this a little dissapointing.

    • @MitchellWilsonII
      @MitchellWilsonII 11 місяців тому +13

      Agree, I’d much rather have the new Engenius WiFi 7 access point.

    • @j340_official
      @j340_official 11 місяців тому +28

      Given that most WiFi client devices are 2x2 max (many iot devices are 1x1) why is it disappointing?

    • @mattkeith530
      @mattkeith530 11 місяців тому +14

      Yeah I will wait for the u7 enterprise and see if it has a 10gig uplink or what will be required. Since this came out so early, relatively, I wonder if we will see the u7 enterprise sooner than later? Edit. I did not wait lol. I am returning the u6 E I just received for the u7 pro

    • @rragang
      @rragang 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@j340_official the more antenna element the better. MU-MIMO & beamforming, it is one of the reasons why 5G is faster than 4G is faster than 3G.

    • @keyboard_g
      @keyboard_g 11 місяців тому +30

      4x4 will be marketed as Enterprise and cost $300. UniFi is aiming to profit on their popularity.

  • @kushalraj
    @kushalraj 11 місяців тому +146

    For future videos would be useful if you also had a wifi 6E device in the mix, whether it be a iPhone 15 pro or another device. This video doesn’t answer the question on if Wi-Fi 7 client is needed on Unifi and how much the improvement is. This is especially significant as Unifi skipped wifi 6E in this product line.

    • @mainelyhobbies
      @mainelyhobbies 11 місяців тому +13

      His results were nearly identical to my ubiquiti Enterprise 6E access port tests. I also think it would have been interesting if he tested them both in his environment. Might make it even less worthwhile for people with ubiquitis 6e products.

    • @jameshuegli3534
      @jameshuegli3534 11 місяців тому +13

      @@mainelyhobbiesExactly. I understand what he was going for here, but this really should have been a Wi-Fi U6 Enterprise vs 7 Pro. Overall, because Unifi omitted 4X4 on 6 & 5 Ghz that the Enterprise is the better way to go overall, but it would have been nice to see the comparison.

    • @aspiller98
      @aspiller98 11 місяців тому +1

      The U7 Pro is backwards compatible with Wi-Fi 6E on the 6GHz band.
      Directly from the U7 FAQ: U7 Pro is fully backwards compatible with WiFi 6E and earlier client devices. A WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 client device is required to utilize the 6 GHz band.

    • @gjas24
      @gjas24 11 місяців тому

      Why did the pixel not connect on 6ghz? My pixel 7 pro does on the 6 enterprise and gets great speeds

    • @JaronCarter
      @JaronCarter 11 місяців тому

      I heard it is region locked in some locations.

  • @jaredbeatty07
    @jaredbeatty07 11 місяців тому +33

    The iPhone 13 Pro Max only supports up to 80Mhz channel width on 5GHz/AX. The Unifi AP will change for client compatibility, regardless the of width you chose.

    • @laloajuria4678
      @laloajuria4678 11 місяців тому +5

      and its a 2 yo modem.....shhhh he doesnt need to understand specs....

    • @ManuelRodriguez27
      @ManuelRodriguez27 11 місяців тому +4

      Very poor testing and methodology. It's a bit funny that a "networking" channel isn't even using iperf.

    • @pingpt
      @pingpt 11 місяців тому +9

      This is a useless review.
      It’s a comparison on the same “name” u6 pro to u7 pro.
      The comparison i would expect to see would be u6 enterprise vs u7 pro to see exactly wifi7 would perform versus wifi 6E on the 6ghz band.
      And as said, not having iperf tests just make these reviews a waste of time.

    • @unicodefox
      @unicodefox 11 місяців тому

      @@ManuelRodriguez27iPerf gives wildly different results to other speed tests in my experience. Haven't looked into why however

    • @ManuelRodriguez27
      @ManuelRodriguez27 11 місяців тому

      @@unicodefox for WiFi clients, I usually have to add on additional streams or change the window size

  • @chaosfenix
    @chaosfenix 11 місяців тому +35

    I know it is a lot to ask and complicates testing but it would have been interesting to compare it to the U6 Enterprise as well. I know you mentioned it but where the U6 Enterprise has wifi 6E how much of a difference are we looking at wifi 7.

    • @red5standingby419
      @red5standingby419 11 місяців тому +1

      More important question, is the U6 Enterprise worth $100 more than the U7 Pro.

    • @chaosfenix
      @chaosfenix 11 місяців тому +1

      @@red5standingby419 Well that is part of the reason I would want the comparison. Is the U6 enterprise a dead product now or are there scenarios, probably due to its additional antennas, where you would still want to get the U6 Enterprise?

  • @adamfritzsche
    @adamfritzsche 11 місяців тому +50

    I'd like to see some comparisons of 6E vs 7.

    • @maximusg88
      @maximusg88 9 місяців тому +3

      Indeed - many of my devices support 6E - the 7 would just be for future proofing

    • @taylorrooney9187
      @taylorrooney9187 4 місяці тому

      Same here

  • @dvvolynkin
    @dvvolynkin 11 місяців тому +3

    📝 *Summary::*
    *U7 Pro Specs*
    📶 00:01:21 U7 Pro is Wi-Fi 7 enabled, utilizing 2.4, 5, and 6 GHz wireless spectrums.
    📊 00:02:21 U7 Pro is 2x2 MIMO across all three frequencies, providing less bandwidth in the 5 GHz frequency compared to U6 Pro.
    🚀 00:02:56 Theoretical maximum throughput: 688 Mbit in 2.4 GHz, 2.8 Gbit in 5 GHz, and 5.7 Gbit in 6 GHz frequency.
    💻 00:03:30 Maximum connected devices: 300+ for U7 Pro, 350+ for U6 Pro.
    🔌 00:03:55 U7 Pro has a 2.5 gigabit ethernet port, while U6 Pro has a gigabit ethernet port.
    *Channel Width Comparison*
    📶 00:04:44 Channel width determines the amount of wireless spectrum an access point can use.
    📈 00:05:09 U7 Pro offers wider channel width options than U6 Pro, up to 320 MHz in the 6 GHz frequency.
    🖥 00:05:57 Testing setup includes U7 Pro with 320 MHz channel width and Zima board with a 10 gigabit ethernet PCI card.
    📱 00:06:42 Speed tests with Google Pixel 8 and iPhone 13 Pro Max show impressive download and upload speeds for U7 Pro.
    📈 00:07:54 U7 Pro outperforms U6 Pro in speed tests, especially with Wi-Fi 7 capable devices.
    *Key Insights*
    00:10:16 No rush to upgrade to Wi-Fi 7; existing Wi-Fi 5 or Wi-Fi 6 access points still have a couple of years of life.
    📱 00:10:50 Wi-Fi 7 performance is client device dependent; newer devices like Google Pixel 8 outperform older devices like iPhone 13.
    ▶️ 00:11:21 Wi-Fi 7 may not be necessary for most wireless usage; Wi-Fi 5 or Wi-Fi 6 suffice for normal activities like streaming and web browsing.
    *Conclusion*
    ▶️ 00:12:10 Wi-Fi 7 may not be required to avoid wireless connectivity bottlenecks for a long time, as most devices do not yet support it.
    🎥 00:12:14 Viewers are invited to watch related videos on UK Ultra access point review and thoughts on Wi-Fi 7 marketing.
    ------------------
    *Summarized by TubeSum Chrome Extension*

  • @elgrazo82
    @elgrazo82 11 місяців тому +32

    was about time for the 2.5g port but 2x2 is really disappointing, especially considering it costs $30 more than the U6 Pro

    • @fuoman100
      @fuoman100 11 місяців тому +1

      C9nsiding the cost of the u6 enterprise with 4x4 and 2.5gb they should have been able to slot in 2.5gb into a u6 pro or u6e pro ap. The u7 is cheaper still than the enterprise and that has better specs in my mind.

    • @ReneeTeunissen
      @ReneeTeunissen 11 місяців тому +1

      2.5 is stupid. Im realy disapointed. Isnit that they dont have 5Gbps poe switches?

    • @mainelyhobbies
      @mainelyhobbies 11 місяців тому +7

      It's so dumb to advertise 5 gigabit speeds and put a 2.5gigabit port on it. It's dating itself already. Of all things to throttle your device... You don't throttle the backbone.

    • @fuoman100
      @fuoman100 11 місяців тому +2

      I guess I'm the only one here that can saturate my 1gb connection when my backbone is 10gb. 1gb is to slow when you have multiple wifi clients transferring data back and forth off a storage server or working directly off of servers. 2.5 is great by yes 5gb and 10gb would be better but infrastructure cost is to high for cat6a/cat6e or 7. 2.5gb is the sweet spot of antenna capability and wired speed.

    • @mainelyhobbies
      @mainelyhobbies 11 місяців тому +3

      @@fuoman100 it's a premium device at $180, just thinking they would design it without such a glaring flaw for something that people usually put in place for 5 or so years. How much more could a 5gb port cost?

  • @martyndix2290
    @martyndix2290 11 місяців тому +5

    Do these things support the Bluetooth products such as the UP-Sense?

    • @sanderdelft
      @sanderdelft 11 місяців тому +3

      Very good question, sir. Should be part of any AP review I guess.

    • @curtminerd
      @curtminerd 11 місяців тому +2

      BLE is not on the U7 Pro.

    • @martyndix2290
      @martyndix2290 11 місяців тому +2

      @@curtminerdthanks for the info, albeit disappointing

  • @b4ttlemast0r
    @b4ttlemast0r 11 місяців тому +64

    Would like to see tests with a Wifi 6e client as well, there are very few Wifi 7 clients at the moment but quite a lot more Wifi 6e ones, so that would be relevant for someone upgrading from a Wifi 6 or 5 setup who has 6e devices,

    • @DavidTrejo
      @DavidTrejo 11 місяців тому +1

      WiFi 7 should be backward compatible with WiFi 6E so you should be fine. Yeah the benchmarks would be nice. I have a new iPhone + wifi6E u6 enterprise and max out my 1Gb internet connection during tests 😎

    • @j340_official
      @j340_official 11 місяців тому +1

      from the U7 Pro FAQ on the UI store: "A WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 client device is required to utilize the 6 GHz band."

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. 11 місяців тому

      It will be close to pixel 8 speeds here. Agreed he should have just used something like iphone 15 pro.

  • @fl3shgordon
    @fl3shgordon 11 місяців тому +13

    Thanks for sharing this. Interested in seeing U7 Pro vs U6 Enterprise

  • @jeremytrees7266
    @jeremytrees7266 11 місяців тому +1

    5:00 small typo on the channel widths for the U6-Pro

  • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
    @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 11 місяців тому +16

    Wifi 6's party trick was latency/efficiency
    6e's new/larger spectrum
    7's is dual band simultaneous connection for a client
    ... testing them all just in straight peak bandwidth is missing the point of each generation. Id be tempted to get the U7Pro for an AP where coverage/stability is the driver but a U7Ent is the upgrade I'm probably going to get excited about.

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. 11 місяців тому

      bingo.

    • @LackofFaithify
      @LackofFaithify 11 місяців тому

      He didn't try it because that feature is a, "some point down the road in a firmware update" type of feature. Go look at the real fine print on the product page, lol.

    • @feignit
      @feignit 17 днів тому

      $500 to party, enojy.

  • @JeffreySpring
    @JeffreySpring 11 місяців тому +3

    Where can I get the desk stand shown next to the keyboard at the 2:51 minute mark in the video?

    • @tamiller84
      @tamiller84 11 місяців тому +1

      Agreed, I would love to know where you got the stands for the access points.

  • @joopterwijn
    @joopterwijn 11 місяців тому +3

    What was the physical setup with he test? Phone direct next to access point? Or more realistic with a wall in between…

  • @Moonraker11
    @Moonraker11 11 місяців тому +11

    At 6:45 the iPhone 13 Pro max only supports Wi-Fi 6 (not 6E).
    The iPhone 14 Pro Max only supports Wi-Fi 6 (not 6E).
    The iPhone 15 Pro Max supports Wi-Fi 6E.
    The iPhone 16 Pro series will support Wi-Fi 7.

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. 11 місяців тому +1

      how do you know 16 pro will support wifi 7? Apple is very slow to move.
      I bet all of the new Apple hardware this year will only support wifi 6e. Wifi 7 support wont come before 2025.

  • @URackADisciprine
    @URackADisciprine 11 місяців тому +21

    2x2 MIMO on the 5GHz? That's Ubiquiti for you, two steps forward one step back and a higher price tag to boot!

    • @JSLEnterprises
      @JSLEnterprises 11 місяців тому +3

      well, so far with the U7 Pro, its more 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

    • @AynonZ
      @AynonZ 10 місяців тому +1

      $189 isn't bad compared to some of the other like devices I've seen so far...

    • @URackADisciprine
      @URackADisciprine 10 місяців тому +1

      @@AynonZ The only devices that need comparing against the U7 Pro are the U6 Lite and U6 Pro. They put the U7 Pro to shame in one way or another for their respective price points and/or feature sets. They are the most direct comparisons there are.

    • @MaraxYTube
      @MaraxYTube 6 місяців тому

      @@URackADisciprinewhich one is better?

  • @ericconnaty7476
    @ericconnaty7476 11 місяців тому +3

    Not sure if anyone else pointed this out however there is no Bluetooth Management. I don't think this is a big deal for most however, in my SoHo I use Protect All-In-One Sensors to track doors opening and closing which require bluetooth connectivity. I find it odd that Ubiquiti did not add bluetooth to the U7 Pro as they previously added it to both the U6 Pro and U6 Lite (not U6+). I wonder if this had something to do with keeping cost down or maybe they felt it didn't add any value.

  • @marshallb5210
    @marshallb5210 11 місяців тому +14

    everyone seems to miss the fact that it HAS A FAN INSIDE

    • @brandobond
      @brandobond 9 місяців тому +5

      Was disappointed he didn't cover this. My AP is right outside my bedroom and I don't want to add any extraneous noise to the area.

    • @wvansluisveld3011
      @wvansluisveld3011 4 місяці тому

      Others have covered it and mentioned it is quiet. However nobody is able to test that it is still quiet in 3 years time.

  • @KevinMuldoon
    @KevinMuldoon 11 місяців тому +4

    Have to agree with others about 2x2 being used on all bands. This really doesn't feel like a pro product.

  • @M0nkNZL
    @M0nkNZL 11 місяців тому +9

    For future videos when you are using bar graphs next to each other make sure they are on the sale scale, as this at a quick glace makes them look similar when there is a big difference at timestamp 8:51

  • @j340_official
    @j340_official 11 місяців тому +5

    Good video. The main question I have for you is can WiFi 6E devices like the iPhone 15 pro max etc connect to the 6 GHz band of the new u7 pro radio ? Or are they banished to 5 GHz or 2.4 GHz

    • @DavidTrejo
      @DavidTrejo 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes they will connect to 6ghz (WiFi 6E) as it is backwards compatible

    • @j340_official
      @j340_official 11 місяців тому +1

      @@DavidTrejo from the U7 Pro FAQ on the UI store: "A WiFi 6E or WiFi 7 client device is required to utilize the 6 GHz band." I figured a 6E device would operate in the 6 GHz band of this new radio, but I've been around technology long enough to not assume anything in terms of interoperability (and I'm talking about thunderbolt interoperability, or lack thereof). So this is good.

    • @DavidTrejo
      @DavidTrejo 11 місяців тому

      @@j340_official Yep per the docs, It’ll work fine. As long as you understand the range limitations of 6ghz vs 5ghz (or even 2.5ghz) it should work fine.

  • @kurlis
    @kurlis 11 місяців тому +3

    1 thing that should of been added to the U7-Pro is either a 5 or 10 GbE uplink, but 4x4 mimo or 6x6 or even 8x8 would of been a nice upgrade

    • @je8277
      @je8277 11 місяців тому

      3x 2x2. Probably limited by formfactor

  • @HPad2
    @HPad2 11 місяців тому +4

    What do the 5GHz speeds look like on the pixel 8 for the U7 Pro? Thats what I'm curious about. My U6 Pro is only limited to the gig ethernet port. Was hoping to be able to get faster results by switching to the U7 Pro. Other AP's that have 2.5G I've tested I've been able to get near 1.8Gbps over regular 5GHz WiFi 6.

  • @BrianThomas
    @BrianThomas 11 місяців тому +1

    I fully agree with your last comment. We still have time before this becomes mainstreem. Enjoy Wifi 6 and Wifi 6E

  • @cdeaker
    @cdeaker 11 місяців тому +8

    On one hand Ubiquiti releases a product that’s ahead of the curve before the standards are ratified & on the other hand they release a long overdue upgrade to the USG with the UXG-Lite that is only just good enough with little headroom for the future

    • @YKSGuy
      @YKSGuy 11 місяців тому +1

      Wi-Fi Alliance just announced Wi-Fi 7 certification is starting now so it isn't as big of a leap as devices released last year, everything is locked down now in the spec.

    • @MrFoof82
      @MrFoof82 11 місяців тому +5

      The WiFi 7 standard was announced as finalized today by the WiFi Alliance during CES.

    • @cdeaker
      @cdeaker 11 місяців тому +2

      @@MrFoof82 good timing then!

    • @mgbon2
      @mgbon2 11 місяців тому

      What strikes me as odd is that these were clearly manufactured before the specs were ratified... So if there's any differences made towards the end of the ratification process... Then are these not fully compliant?

    • @causarumcognitio
      @causarumcognitio 11 місяців тому

      Being limited to 2.5gbps when they brag about almost 10gbps wifi isn’t ahead of the curve. It’s still 2.5gbps wifi.

  • @emilejones9658
    @emilejones9658 10 місяців тому +1

    If I am upgrading from the nano HD, what access point would you recommend?

  • @briankoval3368
    @briankoval3368 10 місяців тому +1

    What about Bluetooth LE ? Why is Bluetooth supposedly left out of this AP?

  • @MiltonGeorges
    @MiltonGeorges 11 місяців тому +8

    My use case for wifi7 would be to transfer files more quickly to my home lab / NAS, though this would only be particularly useful on the laptop that I work on, and for one time transfers of large amounts of data. Otherwise, I agree that even wifi 5 is perfectly adequate for most day-to-day use. I’m still rocking my AC-Pros, with one WiFi 6 access point in my office space.

    • @cheerlin
      @cheerlin 11 місяців тому +1

      Same situation, the dearest improvement we need is range performance… at distance and behind 1 wall at least). Sadly those limited by transmit power. In older installation it will be much cost to add lan points and a AP

    • @deano1699
      @deano1699 11 місяців тому

      @@cheerlin pumping power to add range is generally a bad idea with wifi. Yes, it's a higher capex to install more APs (especially for the typical residential family)... But we're "already there" with all these mesh home router solutions on the market that ARE effectively that, just with a backbone that competes for airtime with end user devices.

  • @AMPTechGrade
    @AMPTechGrade 11 місяців тому +2

    something else to note here that NOBODY Talks about.
    ALot of the Apple devices DO NOT use 160MHz, they are capped at 80MHz

  • @pwhiteheadnj
    @pwhiteheadnj 11 місяців тому +1

    I just became a Ubiquiti user a month ago and bought my first Dream Machine Pro SE. Along with the DMSE I also got a U6 Pro and I'm very pleased with it. To be honest, I wouldn't even know the different between wifi 6 or 7. I test my mobile speeds daily. I average between 920 and 980 mps download and around 24 to 27 mps upload.

  • @rufioh
    @rufioh 11 місяців тому +5

    If it’s got a 2.5Gbps Ethernet port, what does it do with the extra speed over wifi?

  • @mainelyhobbies
    @mainelyhobbies 11 місяців тому +2

    Very similar to my 6e ubiquiti accespoint for speed tests. Makes no sense for me to upgrade. That's a lot of power usage for a 2x2 access point if you planned on peppering those around your house.

  • @cassinovashalo
    @cassinovashalo 11 місяців тому +22

    This would be more useful if you compared it to the U6-Enterprise since those are similarly spec’d items.

    • @forestman111
      @forestman111 11 місяців тому +1

      ??? The U6E is like $100 more. That's not comparable at all.

    • @cassinovashalo
      @cassinovashalo 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@forestman111, That may be the case for some folks (not arguing your statement), however since @crosstalksolutions (Chris) speaks to things other than cost, I believe my comment/ask is justified. Comparing different generations of devices that have similarities/differences based on things other than expense would be more appropriate than comparisons based on cost.
      Cost is almost always a difference between devices of different generations and so I suspect that's why it was not really mentioned in the video. Further, comparing the device features (whether subjectively an upgrade or a downgrade) helps the consumer figure out if the cost difference is indeed justified (for them) or not. Something being a higher cost does not mean it's a better product (or worse).

    • @issacohasi
      @issacohasi 11 місяців тому +1

      @@forestman111o think this u7 is basically the same project of u6e but cost optimized and with one or other 'enhancement' for wifi7. They are walking at the same steps of old apple with every year new versions.

    • @red5standingby419
      @red5standingby419 11 місяців тому +1

      @@cassinovashalo Disagree. Cost is the primary comparison 99% of consumers are going to look at first. Even if the 6E outperforms the 7 Pro because of the better mimo configuration you then have to decide if the amount of performance difference justifies paying 33% more for the faster product with the older spec.

  • @Ancaruin
    @Ancaruin 11 місяців тому +5

    They finalized/certified the WiFi7 today, we 've already read articles.

    • @CrosstalkSolutions
      @CrosstalkSolutions  11 місяців тому

      Last I heard, it was no longer 'draft' status and was just waiting on ginal sign-off, which will happen later in 2024.

    • @Ancaruin
      @Ancaruin 11 місяців тому

      @@CrosstalkSolutions Today though?

    • @mrgigafool72
      @mrgigafool72 11 місяців тому +1

      The 802.11be / WiFi-7 standard was approved stable. The predicted certification is October 2024.

  • @connieko2976
    @connieko2976 11 місяців тому +2

    WiFi 7 interop/certification is available today 1/8

  • @atomycal
    @atomycal 11 місяців тому +8

    Would be awesome to see a comparison with the U6-Enterprise / WiFi 6E.

    • @s__c__o
      @s__c__o 11 місяців тому +2

      I wanted the same initially, recently got a 6E, it seems to be the better choice still.
      U7 is only 2x2 MIMO on 5 and 6Ghz. It's going to be several years before most of my devices are WiFi 7 compatible, I still have most on 5Ghz, so 4x4 MIMO provides more benefit here.
      No doubt there'll be a U7 Enterprise eventually - that'll be worth the upgrade likely.

    • @danfromorlando
      @danfromorlando 11 місяців тому +1

      I love my u6 enterprise, sadly this wasn’t enough for me to make a jump.

    • @atomycal
      @atomycal 11 місяців тому

      @@s__c__o U6E is better for the 5 & 6Ghz. I will get the U7 Pro as I need an AP soon, and for now the main interest is the 2.4Ghz band which is a touch faster on the U7 Pro. Later down the road a U7 Enterprise will follow. I'm a futerproofer, what can I say? 😒

  • @mgbon2
    @mgbon2 11 місяців тому +2

    Can we get some comparisons to other vendors? Omada, Aruba instant on?

  • @MrBigPak
    @MrBigPak 11 місяців тому +3

    Sticking with U6 Pro. Your comments at the end are spot on. 95%+ of people would not benefit going to Wifi 7. I don't see the need for those speeds on a wireless spectrum, and most people would just hardwire if speeds were important.

    • @TankSchu
      @TankSchu 11 місяців тому +2

      If you’re an early adopter of WiFi 6E/7, you can essentially have the 6GHz band all to yourself while your neighbors fight over 2.4/5GHz for a few years. Assuming you have devices that can use 6GHz.

    • @MrBigPak
      @MrBigPak 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@TankSchu True and somewhat to the point, how many devices does a typical homeowner have that are WiFi 7 and do they really need that type of bandwidth? Most power users are already invested in hardwired networking for speed sensitive applications. 600 MBps on Wifi 6 is more than enough bandwidth for wireless scenarios around a typical home. Not saying the Wi-Fi 7 standard isn't going to be more adopted down the road, everyone is going to pay that premium to have it now.

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. 11 місяців тому +1

      @@TankSchu this is only true if you live in dense apartments. If you live in a house in a suburb, there are enough channels on 5Ghz. I live in suburb and I easily get 800mbps on my wifi 6 router with no interference.

  • @pax0707
    @pax0707 11 місяців тому +2

    Considdering that that iPhone doesn't even support 160 it did great.
    Also - 2x2 only is not a Pro feature.

  • @deepsreddy
    @deepsreddy 8 місяців тому +1

    Chris, what power strip is on your desk with the red usb cable plugged in?

  • @faradayengineeringlimited
    @faradayengineeringlimited 5 місяців тому

    is U7-pro support Mesh with other hardwired U7-pro ?

  • @rogerrix4127
    @rogerrix4127 7 місяців тому

    Would it work well if I had two AP's one wifi 7 and one wifi 6 and set wifi 6 to 2.4 only and the wifi 7 to 5 and 6 only. Letting the few things not hard wired that are 2.4 only to connect to the one and everything else to the other? Thanks.

  • @tomaszcodasz
    @tomaszcodasz 9 місяців тому

    What is the idle power use of this AP?

  • @valiconstantin9247
    @valiconstantin9247 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi, iPhone 13 Pro does not support wifi 7 or 6e.

  • @Ruab
    @Ruab 6 місяців тому

    can you use this as a repeater?

  • @daryl9627
    @daryl9627 5 місяців тому

    So, what is this equipt. and what is it used for.

  • @skytouchsolutionsinc5996
    @skytouchsolutionsinc5996 Місяць тому

    FCC and the 2 separate chips? Any word on that as well as IoT issues with U7 Pro?? I Heard theyre dropping or not connecting at all.

  • @e92acj75
    @e92acj75 11 місяців тому +3

    I've been using the U7-Pro for about a week now and was surprised to hear an internal cooling fan turn on yesterday. The U7 is ceiling mounted at 12' high, and the hum was noticeable in the living room about 20 ft away. I restarted the AP and haven't heard the fan running since. Speed tests from my iPhone 15 Pro have been as high as 1029/1278 Mbps. The U7 replaces a UAP-AC-Pro using a 2.5 Gbps uplink. Happy with it so far

    • @henryliu5566
      @henryliu5566 11 місяців тому

      Must have been a glitch with the fan

  • @knightime14
    @knightime14 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm really hoping that you get your hands on (or already have your hands on) a Cloud Gateway Ultra.

  • @JustRisible
    @JustRisible 11 місяців тому +1

    Did I miss you mentioning that it doesn’t come equipped with Bluetooth?

  • @Bigboats619
    @Bigboats619 11 місяців тому +1

    I just upgraded to WiFi6 and the AP will be here in two days. Should I cancel it?

  • @ryancrazy1
    @ryancrazy1 11 місяців тому +1

    so.... My Iphone 15 ProMax support wifi 6E, 6Ghz.... This wouldn't actually be an upgrade for me? while the iphone supports 6Ghz, it doesn't support wifi 7? Thats kinda weird they wouldn't include 6E in with 7? Am I correct?

    • @Moonraker11
      @Moonraker11 11 місяців тому +1

      You have to wait for the iPhone 16 Pro to get Wi-Fi 7...So, in your instance, it would not be an upgrade...

    • @ryancrazy1
      @ryancrazy1 7 місяців тому

      @@Moonraker11 It was an upgrade. I can use my 15 Pro Max to get onto the 6Ghz freq. I just can't do wifi 7 features. but it does have all the 6e features.

  • @Hitthegasmedia
    @Hitthegasmedia Місяць тому

    I am actually going to buy two of these in place of an asus mesh system which consist of a axe16000 and axe11000. Am i making the right move?

  • @allenyoon
    @allenyoon 11 місяців тому +1

    U is good for homes. Never for business

  • @peterwellmann5150
    @peterwellmann5150 3 місяці тому

    Something I didn’t get (in general). How can a U6Pro provide 4.8Gbit/s with 1Gbit/s Ethernet Link? Same with 2.5 at U7Pro with 5.7? Adding all frequencies equals round about 9Gbit/s (using a lot of devices at one AP). What do I oversee?

  • @sireveman
    @sireveman 11 місяців тому +1

    TP-Link Omada EAP783, BE19000 is available right now. So hardly the first if it isn't even released yet.

  • @Trashbag_Full_of_Coleslaw
    @Trashbag_Full_of_Coleslaw 11 місяців тому +3

    Is the U7 compatible with the UAP-AC-Pro mount?

    • @e92acj75
      @e92acj75 11 місяців тому +2

      yes, I did a direct swap from UAP-AC-Pro to U7-Pro

  • @AA-kj4ic
    @AA-kj4ic 10 місяців тому +2

    we need to see a 4x4 antenna wifi 7 access point.

  • @jsclayton
    @jsclayton 11 місяців тому +3

    Good timing, seems that WiFi 7 certification of devices was announced this morning too! I haven’t found if that means the standard has been ratified or not though. 🤔

    • @JSLEnterprises
      @JSLEnterprises 11 місяців тому

      any devices using Wifi 7 at this point in time will remain "Draft" for the remainder of the devices life.

  • @Concordeagle
    @Concordeagle 8 місяців тому

    what version wifi do most phones use? Samsung, iPhones, etc.

  • @EndUserTube
    @EndUserTube 11 місяців тому +1

    Please test Wi-Fi 5 3x3 devices as MIMO has been kneecapped at 2x2. How does that impact performance of 3x3 devices?

  • @GrilledAnimal
    @GrilledAnimal 11 місяців тому +14

    Good video. There are always more things that would have been interesting to see when it comes to AP testing. One small detail that I personally think makes a big difference is to make sure you have the same scale on the y-axis when you compare the speeds of the Pixel 8 and the iPhone 13 (I think the graph for Pixel 8 went from 0 to 1000 and for the iPhone it was 0 to 750 or something like that). That would have made it much easier to actually clearly see the speed difference between the two.

  • @kdeuler
    @kdeuler 8 місяців тому

    Have you found that the range on the 5+ gb wifi speeds have a reduced range compared to 2.4gb if the router behind a wall or two?

  • @chrisragsdale354
    @chrisragsdale354 2 місяці тому

    Is this the same as the u7 outdoor?

  • @jessej8957
    @jessej8957 11 місяців тому +1

    RE: buying WiFi gear before standards are finalized, I still have some "Wave 1" 802.11ac gear somewhere

  • @Saintel
    @Saintel 11 місяців тому

    I want to get this but will wait for the U7 Enterprise

  • @ivanpironi4913
    @ivanpironi4913 8 місяців тому

    is there a plan for 7 lite????

  • @oappi4686
    @oappi4686 10 місяців тому +1

    I think you are wrong. Wifi7 brings Quality of life features that are really nice. If you are planning on buying Wifi AP, I would go for Wifi7. If you feel better getting official certification, just wait a bit and get one then. I have been waiting something like this since wifi 4 and I am waiting for it to be officially certified. Intel laptop Wlan7 adapters you can install inside your laptop are like $20-25, so I will be getting one when I pick one of these up.

  • @RobertHorvat
    @RobertHorvat 9 місяців тому

    Hi, can you help me? I have 2 U7-Pro, but they randomly get "turned off".

  • @designcomputer1
    @designcomputer1 8 місяців тому

    Will I be able to achieve the same results of speed on my Android phone and on my MSI laptop?

  • @droneforfun5384
    @droneforfun5384 11 місяців тому

    I got a raid10 Nas with a 10G nic for 4K video editing directly from the nas. When you think wifi will reach 10G speeds..?

  • @Zhadnost
    @Zhadnost 11 місяців тому +2

    The biggest application in the home user environment that requires faster, better quality WiFi is streaming video to VR headsets. In this area a WiFi 6 solution can be a significant improvement on a WiFi 5 one.
    It wouldn't surprise me if in the future, wireless VR helps to push the adoption of WiFi 7.

  • @TheSchulz2380
    @TheSchulz2380 10 місяців тому

    UXG Light with Wi-Fi 7 does it max out 1 gig connection?

  • @reinaldofanuel5892
    @reinaldofanuel5892 27 днів тому

    I'm no expert in this Unifi Adopt thing. For the Unifi Controller which one is recommended through the unifi App on Smartphone or hosted on home server ? I find it quite nasty when I move to new computer and it require me to adopt the device on the ceiling. Thank you.

  • @Jim-zb1lu
    @Jim-zb1lu 11 місяців тому +1

    I am saving my money for your 1500 dollar network. I have a really old house and will be installing Ethernet cables this spring under the house to include wired connectivity to my main tv and to an outside access point

  • @joshhibschman
    @joshhibschman 8 місяців тому

    How was the coverage/range walking around your building? I like the Wifi 6e and 2.5Gb link, and am on the fence between the U7-Pro and the U6-Enterprise.

  • @TorbenHolmelund
    @TorbenHolmelund 11 місяців тому +1

    It’s a shame only US shop have these.

  • @hessenthaler86
    @hessenthaler86 11 місяців тому

    @4:59 The U6-Pro says 20/24 MHz when it should be 20/40 MHz.

  • @deano1699
    @deano1699 11 місяців тому +9

    The only tests that really matter to me for this device is how well it supports the FEATURESET of Wifi 7, which is theoretically designed to address issues with 5, 6, and 6e that haven't been resolved for DECADES.
    I'd suggest the best way to test a device like this is not as the only AP live at testing time, but rather by surrounding it with every 5/6 AP you own, and seeing how well it performs in a "simultated highrise apartment". :)

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. 11 місяців тому

      yeah but it wont really solve for this properly though. All the clients also need to support wifi 7 (many new IOT devies are still on wifi 4 protocol) and the benefits you are talking about will be mainly seen in 6GHZ channel.

    • @deano1699
      @deano1699 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Fear.of.the.Dark. that's simply not true. One of the biggest advantages of Wifi 7 is that legacy devices do NOT affect the performance of newer ones. So, if you have a bunch of 2.4 and 5 IoT cameras/lights/etc, it's not going to affect your Wifi 7 laptop in the slightest.

    • @MichaelSmith-fg8xh
      @MichaelSmith-fg8xh 11 місяців тому +1

      I live in this scenario (20 floor building in a street full of them and hostspots visible from cars driving past). With wifi 5 I could improve peak speeds 10+% by applying aluminium foil to block neighbours signals. 6e@6ghz did wonders with only 10% of the spectrum being "interference".
      I have IoT/printers/junk on 2.4ghz so they don't touch the fast wifi bands.

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. 11 місяців тому +1

      @@deano1699 that is because you will run your laptop in 6ghz spectrum which your IOT devices cant connect to anyways. That has nothing to do with wifi 7. You can do with wifi 6e devices as well in 6ghz channels. If you have bunch of iot devices in 2.4ghz and 5ghz and then your laptop still runs in those older 2 spectrums, it will still be subject to lot of interference.

    • @deano1699
      @deano1699 11 місяців тому

      @@Fear.of.the.Dark. nope. Nope. Not even close. If your laptop only does 2.4 and 5, it ALSO won't be affected by 2.4-only devices. Please, just... go have a read. It's a huge improvement over 6e, which is why a lot of manufacturers skipped 6e to move straight to 7 (and correspondingly why it seems like it was such a "jump" - because the marketing is still pretty new on the 6e devices that WERE released, and now we have 7, whee! Definitely confuses people... But it's a SOLID update. Having said that, if I was running 6e, I wouldn't make a move urgently to upgrade... But, anyone running a LOT of legacy devices, or on APs older than 6e will see huge improvements.

  • @LiLBitsDK
    @LiLBitsDK 10 місяців тому

    hmm 2,5gbit ethernet for the U7-Pro, so it makes the dreammachine SE useless since the POE(+) ports are only 1gbit if I recall right?

  • @jamesmcmahonii8433
    @jamesmcmahonii8433 10 місяців тому +1

    The 240 is interesting for my use case. I live near a nuclear test military base. There is a lot of interference on most channels around me.

  • @SeattleSandro
    @SeattleSandro 11 місяців тому +2

    For most home users, WiFi 7 is unnecessary right now, with so few WiFi 7 consumer devices. If you've got the cash and want to future proof, you can definitely do so and not have to worry about upgrading APs for a few years. I have 3 WiFi 6 APs covering my whole house, but only about 5 WiFi 6 devices out of the 30 or so WiFi devices in my house. Most of those being IoT devices that are still on WiFi 4 or 5. That said, I'm glad these are available now so reviewers can test and help make them better.

    • @Moonraker11
      @Moonraker11 11 місяців тому +1

      100% this reply...I have actually restricted my IoT devices to 2.4 GHz to get more reliable and more range...

    • @Fear.of.the.Dark.
      @Fear.of.the.Dark. 11 місяців тому

      once we have wifi 7 routers at $200 to $250 price points then it will be consumer ready. I think we are a few years away from that. To be honest, wifi 6 is good enough. I get 700 mbps on my wifi 6 router. I dont think I will ever saturate 700mbps bandwidth ever.

  • @mhpestman
    @mhpestman 8 місяців тому

    If not connected to a 2.5G PoE+ port but to a common 2.5G port, you'll need a PoE+ Injector. Is the PoE+ Injector capable of a 2.5Gbe troughput? Or will the PoE+ Injector be a 1G limitation?

  • @tonyscaminaci7959
    @tonyscaminaci7959 9 місяців тому

    I decided to go with the U7 Pro after doing quite a bit of research, mostly because I want the 6 GHz band access for compatibility with my newest clients. I don't have many home devices on my network so 2x2 vs 4x4 is pretty much a moot point. There's also the benefit of compatibility with future Wifi 7 devices/dongles when they finally hit the market, assuming the standard stays as is. Finally, the U7 Pro is reasonably priced compared to the enterprise-grade APs.

  • @edc1569
    @edc1569 11 місяців тому

    How is a Pro AP 2x2 presumably a mistake?

  • @James_Knott
    @James_Knott 11 місяців тому

    One point about ratifying, when that happens it usually takes only a software update to get the finalized version. The hardware would be locked in long before then.
    In the mean time, I'll just stick with my WiFi 5 UniFi AC-Lite. It's more than adequate for my needs.

  • @shaunvickers9255
    @shaunvickers9255 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for your informative video. I just purchased a U7 pro and would like to know if the Unifi POE+ injector will limit the througput to 1gpbs or if it will support the full bandwidth of the U7 pro. Ubiquiti is ambiguous about the speed and throughput supported by the injector and I can't seem to find any definitive answer on the Unifi forums. Thanks!

    • @blunden2
      @blunden2 5 місяців тому

      PoE injectors are not really active ethernet devices, they are simply passing the signal along and injecting power. The only thing they negotiate is PoE. Therefore they should support faster speeds just fine, which has also proven to be the case in practice.

  • @nursemsic
    @nursemsic 11 місяців тому

    In 2022 i was installing a "new" outdoor wifi antenna to control gate access. Was initially really disappointed to see it was only Wifi 4... until i remembered that firstly you dont need much bandwidth to send data to open and shut a gate and secondly distance was more important anyway, hence 2.4Ghz being correct. Wifi 5 or 6 would have been, at best, a waste of money and at worst would have encouraged the wrong spectrum to be used.

  • @bryanb30
    @bryanb30 11 місяців тому

    1:10 Can you come to the DC Metro region?

  • @jarno2427
    @jarno2427 11 місяців тому +3

    Shame its only 2x2 hope it was its full pentantional 4x4

  • @andrewhaynes5537
    @andrewhaynes5537 11 місяців тому

    Does anyone know if the U7 pro will fit on the base of the U6 pro?

    • @samuelschreiber
      @samuelschreiber 11 місяців тому +1

      It does according to unifi's website

  • @codyl1992
    @codyl1992 10 місяців тому

    With my laptop with the intel BE card, i get 1900 megabit speed tests through it. about 1400 with a 6e device. works great

  • @alwaysright3718
    @alwaysright3718 11 місяців тому +1

    Bet it still buffers 4k video...

  • @HPad2
    @HPad2 11 місяців тому +1

    iPhones before the iPhone 15 Pro is a bad test when it comes to WiFi. 750Mbps is about the max of the iPhone 13 Pro max no matter the AP.

  • @erichubbard7754
    @erichubbard7754 11 місяців тому +1

    What's the range one can expect? Worse than 2.4 GHz for sure I'd imagine

  • @nmfireman
    @nmfireman 9 місяців тому

    I am planning to go from an Eero system to a complete Uni system. Is there someone I can talk to that can help me with the components I should get?

  • @_mball_
    @_mball_ 10 місяців тому

    Skipping over WiFi 6E is maybe missing the value here. I just got my U7 Pro because I wanted 6ghz at home, and I'm really just adding a 2nd AP.
    6ghz and a wider channel width mean 2-3x the bandwidth of 5ghz in my local tests. For file syncing, backups, etc. this is a nice improvement. Given that I'm spending nearly $120 less than Ubiquiti's dedicated 6E devices, and only $11 more than the U6 Pro / U6 Mesh - I think it's really worth it even today as "just" a WiFi 6E device.

  • @andreassetterlind
    @andreassetterlind 11 місяців тому

    Can you test 10GbE NAS to a laptop with new Intel BE200 WiFi module?

  • @carlinator92
    @carlinator92 11 місяців тому +1

    My UniFi AP AC Pro is still working and enough for video calls, UA-cam 4K, Netflix 4K, etc. still after 10 years..! No need to upgrade for me..