Why Finland Has The Best Schools In The World!? Americans React | Loners
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No, teachers can't decide their own curriculum. Curriculum is same for all schools. Teachers can decide how curriculum is taught.
Got it. Thanks for the clarification!
Socialism is a totally different thing than Social Democracy. Social democracy is capitalism that gives workers and employers the benefits they deserve. Finns invest in a balanced life. America's money greedy life does not give a balanced life.
Every Finn I’ve met speaks multiple languages. Most speak Swedish and English fluently. My wife (who is Finnish) also speaks Frenc snd Spanish. Very clever people.
you dont simply call any nordic nation socialist :D social democracy is right term, because there is pretty huge difference. Individualism, freedom and human rights are important for us and those things usually fade away in countries going too much left.
We wish we valued those things more here!
Thanks, I had a nice summer, I hope you did to! I am swedish, it is quite similar to Finland, I never looked up schools for my kids, they just went to the nearest one and they turned out fine 😀
kids or the schools turned out fine? :)
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The important point to take away here, is that the system is built around trust and mutual respect of all parties. The students are given a lot of agency and responsibilities compared to most other school systems, and they are treated almost as adults would be.
The teaching is also focused on building a wide range of crucial skills needed in life, as opposed to rote memorization of facts they will instantly forget after the test is over. The children are taught research skills, critical thinking, how to investigate and search for information, finding and understanding the key points of a text, health and nutritional basics, all basic sport skills, group project work, cleaning after yourselves and taking responsibility of your own actions.
For example, in that first lesson about ancient Egyptian history, the teacher has selected an interesting topic and assignments that could get the kids interested in, what the actual topic is is irrelevant. They aren't being taught the topic, but skills how to search information about the topic, summarize and present that information, give a personal analysis on the topic and also apply that knowledge in a fun practical assignment (like writing their names with hieroglyphs)
Another very important goal of Finnish elementary schools is to teach children to play, socialize, interact and form bonds of people from all walks of life, not just some tiny sample of the society, but as inclusive mix of citizens as possible. All social classes, all ethnicities, all genders and physical challenges etc are all taught and treated under the same roof as equals.
ps. there are other a lot better videos on the topic, that go a bit more on the details. This is just a short media piece by an Australian tv station
pps. the "immigrant" talk at the end is a bit wrong. They aren't immigrants, but refugees coming from war torn countries where these people are not only mentally traumatized, but might have lived their whole life in warlike conditions in countries and cultures completely different from the Nordic countries, that have societies that are built on trust. Due to US wargames in the Middle-East, there was a massive refugee crisis in Europe recently, and many countries had to take in way too many refugees at once, that they had no systems or capacity to handle. This is fallout from that, but please don't confuse it with actual immigration, that is a far-right talking point, where they are trying to muddle the discussion about the issue.
But yes, it is sadly true, that there has been a dramatic rise in violent and sexual crime committed by refugees, which has given a massive rise to bigotry in Europe
Thank you so much for the detailed explanation on everything. It makes a lot of sense what you mentioned about the Refugee/immigration topic we mentioned!
Public universities in Finland are divided into regular universities and universities of applied sciences. They are all tuition-free for students coming from EU/EEA countries and Switzerland. Non-EU/EEA students enrolling in English-taught degrees are required to pay tuition fees.
Important point to note, is that the tuition fees they charge from the Non-EU/EEA students are much lower than the actual costs of that education. In addition, they can get massive amounts of that tuition fee waved if they complete Finnish language courses and decide to stay and work in Finland after their graduation
Wise words from my elementary teacher "if i havent been able to make you think for yourselves, teaching you how to learn and be critical, i have failed in my job"
This was back in the early 90's maybe 1993, my 4th year in school, i had the same teacher for 5 years, our "class teacher" she was also our english teacher.
Music and sports had different teachers back then, everything else was taught by one teacher alone. She was around 30 at the time, when she started she was 25 or 26.
And we had 30 pupils in our class, maximum of 33 for one year.
In Finland we give a lot of freedom for teachers in schools to do their job. It also goes for the kids, as they are responsible from a young age to be able to walk to school and back (unless you live far away from school or you have a disability or such). Kids get more and more independence the older they get and it never felt like "too much" (though it's 28 years since I left the school)
That seems like a great way do it!
The question about "can USA spend money to provide things like free schooling and universal healthcare"? Yes. They could but can YOU pay 20-40% tax (based on your income if you are working citizen). Or are you willing to do that. Here in nordic countries and in majority on EU countries we are willing to pay that tax to have decent safety net for our children, have nice quality healthcare, good school systems etc.
We personally would be willing to pay that if we had those things
To clarify your last point, Finland is a social democracy. In practice this means public services, high taxes and a market economy. A socialist state does not have a market economy.
@@yorkaturr Yes, the so called Nordic Model doesn't mean the Nordic countries are socialist. Actually most European countries have large variety of public services, that are widely used. The systems just have different forms.
Could you react to Finnish open prisons?
Title is something like Prisoners in Finland live in open prisons where they learn tech skills.
With good behavior you can get to try open prisons before your sentence is over.
I've seen many good reactions for it but I'd like to see yours too.
Finland system every children have same chances to study what they want. System every talented child will be found are you from poor or rich family.
Edjucation, health care and lack of social help are the biggest reasons why i would never move from Finland to US. If you are rich and healthy, there is no problem to live there, but if you lose job or health than you are screwed...
We do have fund rising for things like school trip / class trip...
For example, to name few, selling things like: The toilet paper sales... cookie sales... bird feeder sales... 😂
@@rosmu1130 They are 100% optional and not part of the school system itself, that is why they require so much extra paperwork and differ completely from school to school. Basically, it is not the school who is raising the money, but the students/teachers themselves
Geography was nice in elementary school. in the fifth grade (11 years old), of course, I knew the countries and capitals of Europe. All American states and capitals were also easy to learn.
Fun fact the shcool in kullo is over 100 years old and iam in that school but iam scared becus it might be my last year here 😢
That's where the protests going on in Britain started
"The United Kingdom was left shaken after three children were stabbed to death and eight others were injured in a knife attack in Southport, in one of the worst assaults against children in the country in decades.
The attack took place at a Taylor Swift themed event at a dance school in the seaside town in northwest England, sparking disbelief over why would anyone target children having fun during the summer holiday.
Prime Minister Keir Starmer said the “whole country” was deeply shocked by the “truly awful” attack, while King Charles III said he was “profoundly shocked” by the “utterly horrific incident.”
You should check how your immigration process works. Because it’s one thing that a lot is getting in from the Mexican border… but if you check how the official immigration system works and the costs are? You will quickly understand why a lot does instead of being legal. Plus: how much money and job opportunities they really create to the country-> a lot of Americans are not so eager to start new businesses and go what the struggle.
He is 100 % right about imegrants in Europe
14:40 Its crazy to you because you have fairly strong border security so you have never experienced the true effects of uncontrolled immigration.
One of the benefits of good education is that people learn critical thinking, and don't grow up in an echo chamber which blames all of their country's own failings on immigration.
@@danmayberry1185 Truly so. One of the benefits is also being able to make a distinction between immigration and mass immigration, and recognizing the inherent issues without being landlocked to just the popular opinion.
This type of system only works in a high trust and homogenous society. Where the social contract is understood and abided by by everyone, that is also the reason it would not work in the US.
To go a step further, I think you should like this terrific concept: "Forest schools: Lessons in outdoor education" - CBS Sunday Morning
And no, immigrants (here) are not a cause of increasing insecurity! That's extreme-right propaganda.
Mm a bit ramble at the end!
In anyway one must understand Finnlands/Suomis history an geopolitical challanges.. to even touch the outer layers of there mindset!
If one even get a hint of there history one "mayby" can understand there effort to use the "nordic modell" of society.. witch then spills over to there school system.. fully funded shools by taxes, equal for every school.. indipendent of parents and neigbourhood!
IE.. there is no low cost workforce to exploit.. and those job is alredy in china.. companies need high educated personel, to be competive in a global market! So both left and right protect the finish school system!
Three languages is minimum.. finnish, swedish and english.. at elementary shool! Later one can ad more!
Biggest difference that increases the quality of education not mentioned here is that in Finland there are no private schools, all the funding goes to public schools available for free to all Finnish citizens. Meanwhile in Australia we have private schools demanding $25000 + per student and still sucking off the tax payers purse more than the people that have kids attend that school would pay in tax that goes to the education system. We watch them get their third tennis court and Olympic swimming pool while rural schools struggle to get a leaky roof fixed and have to hold school fates to raise funding just to have enough stationary!
Here in Finland we learn about the first king of ancient Texas, Ishid Anfarded, quite early
The current protests in the UK are about an attack. I believe more than one stabbing, and several victims. The right wing immediately blamed a muslim for it. without such pesky things like proof or evidence. So the extreme right of course decided that they should attack muslims, and "protest" muslims existing. The guy who did it was not an immigrant or muslim at all, but facts are not important when you want to be prejudiced.
Also, they are definitely not protesting illegal immigration (I mean, I'm sure some claim they are) they are protesting muslims (by which they typically mean brown people, because anyone who looks not-white gets caught in the crossfire). Those muslims are British citizens. And in no way connected to the crimes at all.
All schools in Finland don't look this good, but yes, there are less differences between schools than in most of the other countries. Generally familes trust the schools and teachers, in bigger cities some famillies try to avoid certain school districts. There are a handfull of private schools, like international schools, the private schools have to be non-profit though.
my kids are azzholes, they didn't learn anything in school, they came to their mother
Parents should have absolutely no right to have a say concerning the curriculum and the curriculum shouldn´t differ from state to state, i think that´s the major problem in your country.
Yes and no. In a public system like in Finland I'd agree, but for example in privately/parent funded system like is popular in the US, I think the parents and investors should naturally have a say in the curriculum, since they are the "customers/share holders" of that business
Sadly the Finnish school system and learning results with it have been going downhill for years now. E.g. 6 out of 10 teachers have thought of seeking some other occupation. Migrants play a role in that, but there are numerous other problems too. During the Great Migration of Finns to the US, from 1870 to 1930, the Finns were labeled as trouble breeders for the reason that a considerable part of them tended towards the radical left in politics and became labor movement activists. One reason was that Finns had trouble learning English. One state to which Finns settled was Minnesota, so Tim Walz has connections to Finnish Americans and Finland. Here's one video about the Finnish immigrants: "How the Finns became White (in America)".
At least they are starting to ban mobile phones. Bloated class sizes are still an issue.
Now if they taught math better and limited the use of calculators a little bit, I'd be glad.
The teachers are little spies these days, having to report pretty much everything the kids do, even if reporting it would be illegal.
They can't disclose health information of kids to the parents, but they do it all the time. Sad thing is that there are disabled kids whose parents need the health information, but as it is illegal, they have to break the law (which isn't really moderated).
Teachers have to fear many things these days and the toolkit is quite limited. Even their disciplinary tools are very limited if they can't handle psychology. They don't even assign repeat years anymore, which is pretty stupid as some kids clearly need one extra year.
Teachers can't send problem kids to special disciplinary classes, because those were abolished due to lack of funding.
It is all downhill now, but I am glad I went to school during the golden era.
Smart kids do well regardless of the era, though if you are exceptionally talented, you'll still have to wait for the others until teen years.
It depends entirely on teachers if they let you study at your level.
@@CulturalBarbarian Even the smartphone ban is at the discussion level and comes after the students have complained about excessive screen time exposure, the parents have stopped buying smartphones to smaller children and the learning environment has multiple severe issues. And all this can be explained by simple economics models. Meaning the school system and children became subjects of changes, which served the return on invested capital in the expense of the child welfare and learning results. The sad part is that the changes made have been deliberate and could be seen in forehand with common sense. And it's not like there's genuine will from decision makers to turn back time. They just have to pretend like they are working on the problem, because the problem is so apparent and getting worse.
As finish, i have to say, this all is old informations.
I think there is a different mind-set between English & US students and most other European countries. In the US & UK, a student must not stand out, for fear of being labelled a geek or a nerd, this happens in other countries but at a far lower level.
Those riots you referenced in Britain (although, it's mainly England), are not generally local people, they are outsiders coming for organised right-wing groups. Imagine if so called patriots from all over the US went to Texas to protest the border crossings, then petrol bombed the local Chipolte, because it sounds Mexican, then l smashed the windows of TacoBell & Wendy's because I don't know, reasons. Sure, there are a significant number of Texans who have concerns about the migration levels, but I'm sure most of them wouldn't endorse rioting & smashing up local businesses.
Here is another one, that in the end also has to do mainly with education :
Switzerland: So Many Guns, No Mass Shootings | The Daily Show Throwback
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We tried doing this video!! But it got blocked by UA-cam lol
The whole of Europe is having more and more massive problems with the migration of other cultures. In the UK, 3 little girls (6, 7, 9) were killed and 6 others seriously injured in a knife attack, yesterday an 11-year-old girl and a 34-year-old woman were stabbed in a public square in London around midday. In Germany and Austria there are gang rapes of 13 and 14 year old girls, sexual assaults on teenagers and mass fights in swimming pools and in Vienna the 3 planned Taylor Swift concerts had to be canceled due to planned Islamist attacks. The population is gradually having enough and since politicians do nothing (many of the criminals are not of criminal age) protests and riots are now breaking out. I bet the UK is just the beginning!
The girl definitely needs more sleep
Yet another reaction channel copying what every single reaction channel does and looks at some old video when things in reality are completely different nowadays.
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