If you try to copy Plini's Style
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- 00:00 Title
00:04 Step 1: Write a Midi Melody
00:34 Result 1
01:03 Step 2: Repeat with Guitar
01:32 Step 3: Delete Midi & improvise
02:11 Don't give up!
i hear Plini's music since over 10 Years i guess.
But i just can't play Guitar like him.
I try and try. But i don't get it.
At the end it's always my own Style.
So don't worry.
Just make what you do.
Guitar: Strandberg Boden Classic 6
Interface: Universal Audio Arrow
DAW: Steinberg Cubase 12 Pro
Plugins: NeuralDSP Archetype Plini
Cam: iPhone 13 Pro
Video Edit: LumaFusion (Macbook Pro, M1 Pro)
The Track (without my Guitar/Piano) is the snippet from the @StrandbergguitarsOfficial x @plinimusic Solo Contest from anywhen:
• #SaltAndCharcoal Solo ...
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Thank you for all the heart-warming words. You are so kind 🥰
Watch my better result of a Plini Song:
ua-cam.com/video/N6nbzZ7pHKc/v-deo.html
Or my new track (imo much better result): ua-cam.com/video/NHXAhjUnnRU/v-deo.htmlsi=yltgvvr4sSC81mSB
I struggle with the same problem man, wanting to be Plini but never actually being Plini 🙃 Nah but seriously, the message of the video is perfect. When it comes to writing music, the world has Plini already but it might not have you yet, so write what you like and see where it takes you. Thanks for the video dude 🤘
Lovely words , mate ❤️ i‘m glad If my message takes effect. There Are lot of people like us, loving The music From Plini and co, getting inspired soo much.
At the end It’s good to Not fully be like plini. It would have Been Boring. 🤔😅 Just be and stay yourself . Maybe It’s also better than plini in its Own Style 😍 keep on 🤙😎
@@MikePane I fully agree my dude! Take care bro, I'll be looking out for your next video 👊
Same. You got my sub, Bro 🤙 and great content, Strandbergs Are Just delicious 🔥
@@MikePane That’s super kind of you man, I’m stoked to have you around! They’re truly are 🙌
I went to a master class with Plini and Taranto, both swear by building from the right chords and letting the melody find itself through improve and experimentation from there.
This really is spot on.
Is it worth the Money? i was thinking about visiting the master class, but 100 bucks? idk, there are a lot of youtube tutorials where plini transforms chords into melodies/progressions etc. But i fully agree. Chords are the Root of the track😇
100 dollars is actually an absolute steal. Most lessons from legends of their genres are far far more expensive@@MikePane
@@decrae you're right. In comparison to other Artists. But 100 Bucks is still a lot of money . And Plini also has online courses. Moreover i would rather visit two concerts of him for the money. Seeing him live with band ist insane
Taranto is seriously underrated, imo
Incredible guitarist with some of the dirtiest licks 👌
-feverishly takes notes-
Plini has a very big emphasis on melody, and in particular the lyricism of it. He almost treats the guitar as a voice, and all of the techniques he employs to achieve a different sound like palm mute, whammy, etc. all play into the sentence he is creating. He doesn't shy away from more colorful notes outside of the key, often stringing diatonic melodies together but then putting emphasis on weirder chord tones like the #11 or the b13/#5. Between or at the start of phrases Plini also likes to include sweeping arpeggios that superimpose a new color over the chord, usually by mixing 2nds, 3rds, and 4ths and not shying away from repeating a note every now and then (which may or may not be ghosted). It should be noted that these arpeggios are usually all diatonic to the key of the moment, but the mixture of these intervals in certain patterns creates a very complex sound.
Below all of that is a bassline that usually is a repeated riff or a vamp between two chords (usually the V and IV), and the drums may accent beats in any pattern like every 2, 3, 4, or 5 notes, but that's pretty simplified to what is usually actually going on. In more dissonant and active sections the formula of the rhythm section varies much more.
What I find particularly intriguing about Plini's music is the pure attention to detail in every element of his music, which is most exemplified by all of the subtle counter-melodic fragments played behind the melody. They function almost like ear candy at first but do usually end up serving a more prominent role as melodic material later on.
I would especially recommend taking a look at "Kind" off of the Sunhead EP, it's fairly simple on the surface and uses everything I mentioned here, but when you really pick it apart it has a lot of cool things going on. Not only is it a pretty good song, but it also teaches you a lot about Plini's songwriting choices.
Those are just a few things I picked up from listening to and analyzing Plini's music. Sometimes analyzing music can take away the magic, but in Plini's case, it's still all there and continues to amaze me. I definitely feel that he is an absolute genius when it comes to prog metal songwriting, we're truly lucky to be able to experience this music.
I fully agree. I spent the Last hours watching His Videos . I‘m still impressed - as i am since years. His melodies Sounds as They doesnt come From Earth . But watching him playing his stuff looks that cool and sometimes easy - its unbelievable 😅😍 he‘s One of my biggest idols. Otherwise i try to get influence but still make my own Style , based on influences of different artists (as everyone do so i guess). Moreover it is easier to say that instead of saying i Just Fail imitating him on a high level 😅
Your comment about us being lucky to be able to hear him is true, he is up there in terms of his compositions and his music as a whole. Great insight!
I am a big follower of plini's music. It's so inspiring. I think Plini is a great composer as much as a great guitarist. I love the use of space in his music. His melodies are simple and singable. Lots of space and feel among notes. But his use of background orchestration complements his melody. Also, I am a fan of his vibrato. His playing wants me to focus on composition rather than soulless shreds.
He‘s Just killin Everything . Imo he must be a good Cook too😅. his Sense for Beautiness , fitting riffs and the Soul in his arrangements is just brilliant 😍
sounds great! one thing i love about plini's music is he add some bells(?) on lead guitar, which sounds awesome
thx mate 😍 yeah u r right. I was so angry cuz i couldnt play my midi riff. But watch this video, i doubled some passages with Bells: ua-cam.com/video/Z2HDoKSuob8/v-deo.html
Awesome work dude.
That melody is very beautiful.
You are a good producer and guitarist man🤘🤘
Thats warming my Soul 😍
thanks for the lovely words🥰
i keep on. And you too, my Friend
🎸 i will visit your content
Love the arrangement, man! Thoroughly enjoyed the vid lol
thx for those lovely words 🥰 I will try to repeat that
Brooo that sounds awesome, keep going :3
Apprecheated, Mate!
Sounds pretty convincing. I really like the piano line 🙌
Thx ! 🙏🎉 if u are interested. One guy asked for the piano part , so here it is:
www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4xz3gvcco7zucn7s63hwb/SaltnChorcoalpiano.wav?rlkey=zgt51evxn72spiag4boybrhk2&dl=0
This was pretty nice, man! Got a sub. :)
Thx mate ❤️❤️ apprecheated. Check out my new Video From yesterday . Imo i did a better Job playing like Plini 🙃🤙
Outstanding job
Thx Bro 🙏😍
This sounds incredibly good man. Maybe a bit heavier lows in the mix but yah it sounds awesome
Oh thanks! 😍 i keep Working on the sound. Was Just a guest project
Sounds great!!
Thank youuu❤️🙏
Such a wholesome description lol! But I've had the same thoughts sometimes, I write the tunes I do because... that's what I do. They sound like ME. Which is way cooler than sounding like another artist.
But yeah theres so much to learn by adapting techniques and note choices from awesome players like Plini, and then adapting them into something semi-original. Nothing warms my heary more than hearing other musicians say 'that such a WaveWithUs riff' after playing them something new.
I also truly believe creativity doesnt exist in a vacuum and people can only become original after 'standing on the shoulders of giants'.
Thx mate 🤙
You’re Right . Be and stay yourself and make own style. But Inspiration is always good. „Standing on giants shoulders“ mean something like „reaching the horizon“? To unfold Creative potential?🤔 good Point ❤️
@@MikePane standing on giants shoulders in this context, I meant it like.. even the greatest and most original players wouldnt be where they are without older legends to influence them. Tosin Abasi wouldnt be slapping or selective picking without dudes like Victor Wooten, Plini would not sound like Plini if he never got inspired by Satch and Vai, Periphery/Bulb wouldn't be djentin without Meshuggah before them.. even the greatest players 'took' and 'stole' from other legendary players and that's natural. Therefore, originality and creativity don't exist in a vacuum. You need to stand on the shoulders of the giants before you and truly see (and play) from their perspective, before you can apply that knowledge and become a giant yourself :)
Creativity is limitless, but it needs to be grown and nurtured and that's something nobody can do alone :D thats what I believe, at least. Have a great day bro!
@@wavewithus4081 Thats a lovely metaphor, Dude! 🥰 really, wise words , Man😇 you too, Bro
Cool! Great Job!
Thx mate🥰🤙
Nice stuff!
You’re Warming my Soul 😍🙏
nailed it
🙏☺️
Sick bro
thx bro 😍 no "Fartdjent", i know but i keep going 🤣
sea salt and Hardwood Briquettes.
made my day 🤣🤣🤣
Nice approach! There's no right or wrong tho; I remember Polyphia's Tim Henson got a melody from the Omnisphere VST arpeggiator (if I'm not mistaken.. kinda forget the exact details). As long as the creative process flows...
Exactly. In my Case i will be able to Play the midi melody but only After Long Progress of practicing. And sometimes the time is missing 😢
All in all the video should motivate other guys Just doing their own 😎
You're right! I think he wrote the O.D Riff based on arpeggios he got from this VST
I thought he nearly wrote every Guitar melody in midi? 🤔😅
A lot of my coolest musical moments come from misplacing drums or riffs in Ableton and then just going with it. There's this track where I mixed up the 5/4 and 4/4 drum sections but the different unintentional grooves made the riffs stand out so much more.. Some chaos can be a great help in making original stuff, even unintentially lol
all in all we could say it's perfect cuz it's not perfect
nice one
:)
Thx mate🥰
I feel like plini uses less chromatic tones in the melody (which weren't in your guitar improv but were in your midi piano melody), I also feel like what can help is paying attention to plini's rhythm and phrasing --- you feel slightly ahead or behind the beat on some phrases, and plini's loose/airy phrasing is really where his lyrical playing shines.
Another device you can use is motivic development of a longer phrase. Compose a melody but have it being longer than usual, say 8 or more bars as opposed to 4. Then iterate on and vary that melody, continuing it instead of repeating it.
Thx for those useful Tipps . You Are right.
But If i made this with Guitar my Video Message doesnt Work😅🤔
Ooooo tasty licc alert at 1:46
thanks mate! but i'm still not happy with it. The timing is pretty bad 🤯
By the way what soundbank and preset for piano do use?
I Often use „the gentleman“ From Kontakt / komplete. In this Case „sparkling upright“
The midi part sounded like Arch Echo xD
LOL , didn’t notice , thanks a lot, glad to hear 😍😅✌🏼
It's like Salt and Charcoal Part II
Oh glad to read it😍 thanks ☺️
I love you.
Idk actually how to reply, but Thank You 😍✌🏼
This sounds like Tweek from South Park is trying to learn a Plini song.
🤣👌
sounds like Salt and Charcoal :D
No way 😂😉😱
What's the giant Lego head on the desk/where can I get one?
(very good guitar playing btw)
Gooooood question 😂😂😂 idk where you come from , but search for „Lego head“ / „giant Lego head“ I guess Amazon or eBay has some items for 15-30 bucks 😉 thanks a lot - even if my plan was to show I’m unable to play guitar. There are wayyy better results on my channel 🙈
@@MikePane YOOO they have a Lego Skull one I'm buying that rn (thank you btw)
@@the-first-liam that sounds nice :) uuuh skull - i wanna have one 🤣 you`re welcome
nice video you use what version cubase
Still Cubase 12 Pro. But the way i use cubase will work with elements versions, too
There can only be one plini
Fully right 😎🙏
lol.. thanks!
You're welcome 😇 but why? 😅
@@MikePane I just thought your video is hilarious. Thanks for putting a smile on my face. I was hoping you were an actual musician making fun of the "computer music" process. I was yelling at your character in my head to learn piano instead of inputting midi with the keyboard. lol... Then I saw your guitar on the next video and realized you knew your shit. Do you produce commercial work?
Hahaha, glad to read. You made my day. Well i try to give my best, even if i use midi very often, cuz it's comfortable.
I have a Keyboard and record some stuff manually, but the most energy i spend into guitar. I'm a amateur "Bedroom Musician" with Home Studio. I released several Tracks on Streaming Platforms, but it's not that commercial as that I could pay my bills with it. Maybe one day. I'm happy every new Subsciption and every Support. So Thx :)
I'm always looking for musicians to collaborate with. What country do you live in?@@MikePane
Germany, but Pschhht 😂 collaboration over whole planet shouldn’t be a problem in 21th century 😉
Check owane too 😅 you might also like the complexity there
Oh sure i did. He‘s another one of my fave artists. You cant compare them. But both Rock on their own Style 😎Maybe i will try to Copy owanes Style too 🤓
That piano track was amazing bro
Thanks Bro 😘 but The Backingtrack was From plini, the Piano Part was made by me with midi and i wasnt able to Play it on Guitar 😅
@@MikePane damn can you share the track bro ? It's amazing
@@Ash___Wolf sure. Here it is : www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/4xz3gvcco7zucn7s63hwb/SaltnChorcoalpiano.wav?rlkey=zgt51evxn72spiag4boybrhk2&dl=0
but i don't own the rights. The Background Track is made by Plini. It's called "salt and charcoal" . The Backingtrack was part of a solo competition. Text me if you have trouble getting the dropbox file
@@MikePane thankyou soo much mannn you're the bestest ❤️
I wish I could actually do it tho HAHAHA
Same 😢😂🙏
Rip a fat rail and make Wii music?
Rip a fat rail and make Wii music.
Step 1: Cut out key parts of guitar that make it look like guitar
Step 2: Be really chill
Not Bad idea 🤔😅
Es heißt Leviosa nicht Leviosaaaha.
Ok ok ,Hermine 😅🤪🤪🙄
Sounds like AI generated Plini
Yes, if AI was that Bad as me🤓