Unfortunately the kid I bought it from was the one that got scammed. It was his first car and the “guy seemed nice” and the kid trusted him. If enough people ask, I can do more of a complete in depth dive in that situation, but unfortunately con men come in all shape and sizes, but unfortunately the con in con man stands for confident. Unfortunately just over a year ago I found out how dangerous they can be, and we’ll even hide behind a white jacket with specialist at the end of their name. Unfortunately we all get taken advantage a couple times in our lives. When it happens, it sucks sometimes a lot worse than others, and the older we get the more cynical we become. But remember, we were all naïve and young ones.
I worked in a service station in the very early sixties and our local doctor raced in with his winter beater with a heater and slammed to a stop beside the gas pumps. Just as the car came to a stop it slowly sagged in the center of the car as it broke in half. The doctor kicked the drivers door open, looked over at me as I stood there in absolute disbelief at what I was seeing, he yelled, Fill It Up, and grabbed his bag out of the car and ran down the street to his house to get his summer car which was a new Mercedes. Great to see a new video. Thank you.
The clean interior is worth a grand alone. The engine and transmission has value along with all the glass and trim. $1000 is a deal for the amount of parts you got. Anyone with an ounce of sense should know if an entire vehicle is priced lower that the value of the tires on it........ well.....
I hear what you’re saying but that interior is not worth $1000. I just pulled it up on the interchange and I could get every part of this interior for under 500 bucks. Especially if I’m pulling it myself.
That's exactly what you get for $2000. A beater vehicle. Used work trucks usually go for more than that. The tires / wheels alone probably 800. The shell would scrap for $500. Couple hundred for the converter, engine and transmission each. There you go. $2000
I was going to comment about how I bought my work truck for $1200 just 6 months ago and it's been great but then I remembered all the work I had to do running down small issues and how rough the body "repairs" to the truck bed were and the parts I had to buy to get it really running well again. I'm probably $1000 in in parts and fluids into it now and if I had taken it somewhere to have it worked on instead of doing it myself then I'd probably be at about 4k in work.
Right. Though we joke up here that’s the best way to have a complete class of cars to buy one up here and one down in Texas. Our interior is perfect, but the Texas car has no rust.
You're telling me you bought a Chevy trailblazer thinking it would be good I been a mechanic all my life and the trailblazer was junk from the factory 100%
lol. I’ve had it it to buy one of those 4.2 L Atlas engines for a while now. This was just the best route to get one after it’s all set and done. lol I like to collect engines and cars
The trailblazers seemed to be hit or miss. I had one that was absolutely great. I bought a newer one that had the same inline engine but sucked down gas and never felt as good to drive
I know what you mean about buying from an uncle. My uncle tried to rip me off on a car he was selling. He was bragging about the car having 150,000 miles. Next year he was selling it with ONLY 60,000 miles.! Like you said, don't trust anybody!
Saw your video. Been a minute since you posted one, but have been watching the shorts. Me... I'd do the same thing: Strip the drivetrain, transmission and salvage the rest for parts to get my money back. The rest is scrap. That thing is a liability not only on the road but just sitting there. Anyway, glad to see you posting videos again! Anxious for the next one.
It really is the best way to go, especially for budget projects. last year I think I only did four videos because I was doing a lot of production over at Hemmings but this year I’m going to target for an video a week
@@LunarOutlawsGarage I know. I've been watching the shorts and I subscribed to Hemmings, so, I'm watching the content on that channel too. Thanks for the reply.
@joikep it was a lot of fun working with those guys, and I have learned a lot from jr. and terry. That said I am really pumped to get back to my projects, and thank you for joining me on the adventures 🤙
Not everyone selling an older car tries to scam. When I sold my 1999 S500 Mercedes I offered a daily car to a fair price and left it open to anyone to inspect it. Also had some documentation.
i got scammed by my own family members from my dads side they said it ran when they parked it so i bought it for 500 and lord and behold the engine was locked up so we sold it for 200 to a we buy junk cars now i know not to trust anyone when buying vehicles
I had a 2004 Trailblazer the exact same color. The body and drive train was in great shape, but the frame was shot, rusted beyond repair. I sold it to my young brother for next to nothing, he bought it for the engine and transmission. I loved that vehicle, and it was well taken care of, but the frame rust condemned the vehicle.
I’ve seen these Trailblazers be completely rust free with a clean beautiful body, but the rear control arms rusted right off the frame. People buy them and assume it’s all in good shape just because the body looks so good that they don’t even check underneath.
I was victim to an almost identical situation when I bought my first car. It was a Buick Park Avenue. Looked pristine up top, had a little surface rust on the door seams, but nothing to be worried about. 3800 ran great, and the car rode phenonenal with working air ride. Took it home for $2500, and was ecstatic to have my own wheels. I go to detail the thing and notice a hole clean through the side of the subframe by the rear wheel well. I then proceded to scoop out what remained of the rockers and then noticed I could see carpet from underneath the driver floorboard. While it sucked to get scammed, it taught me a lot of valuable lessons. Most importantly was to not trust anybody and to only shop for cars south of the Mason-Dixon line! 😅
It is really crappy when people will do. I’m sorry that you had something somewhere happen. I felt bad for the kid, and I saw don’t understand how people can be that way, but unfortunately they are
The kid bought it from the guy for a lot more than $1000. In New York State, all private sales are as is. However, not disclosing frame damage is a scumbag thing to do. It’s rare, but when I sell a car I disclose all the problems I know and give them the taillight warranty. However, I would never knowingly sell it kid a vehicle with a bunch of holes through it frame as his first car. Now I’m not saying you are, but if you are OK with doing something like that you need to look deep down in yourself and realize you have a problem.
@@LunarOutlawsGarage -40f ambient is often the highs for a good part of winters up here , most of last week was in the -40 range , it did warm up to 5f today so its quite nice today
Always look under the vehicle, can't stress that enough! I have looked at several vehicles over the years that looked great, ran great and drove great, then I would crawl underneath and find either major rust issues like this one or major fluid leaks.
100% especially if you live in the rust belt, but especially if you live in the north east. I feel bad for the kid that bought this car It was very easily avoidable. I mean, I’ve seen people use spray foam insulation and Bondo to make it look like the frame is solid.
That seems to be the point of the video. Don’t judge a book by its cover and make sure you take someone with you that knows cars or have a professional look at it before purchasing so you don’t get scammed.
Yes it does. See channel frames get hit hard but the box frames like you get in a Jeep Wrangler become nightmares. There’s an old trick of whenever you change the oil you spray the old oil down inside the frame, anything you can do to protect it
Pulling in the engine out of it right now and right about where the transmission is. The frame is also rotted through. There is no way this would ever pass New York State inspection, and I would most definitely not put my kids in this vehicle
@LunarOutlawsGarage no inspections in MI. I did take my Silverado off the road because chunks of the frame were falling off. Still ran and drove great. I took the motor and trans out of it and stuffed them in my 94 s10.
A lot of sellers on FB marketplace selling cars might been gotten the ideal from an old Kurt Russel film Used Cars (1980) selling lemon other webs may have the same way like eBay, and Craglist.
I misspoke on this it was corrected with a thing on the bottom of the screen. That being said last year, I stripped a 500 in.³ big black out of a truck that was used for salting. It only had 28,000 miles, but it had an absolutely destroyed frame. I was able to put a sharpie marker through the back of the frame. That said the 8.1 L Vortech and Allison 1000 transmission were in pristine condition.
lol my brain was working slower than mouth. O2 sensor. I left it in without putting in a notation to see how long it would take for someone to make a comment. OBD two is the system used for emissions controls. It’s a standardized system that allows for a quick scan to see what fault codes you have.
@LunarOutlawsGarage that's funny. I'm an you tube university DIYer. I have a 91 ferd with OBD 1 and the rest of my junk is OBD2. This week I'm pulling my 5.3 and doing a DOD delete because of GMs AFM lifter failure. I was watching your video and heard the OBD senor and just had to comment. What caught my eye was the trailblazer I have an 05 with the 4.2 and almost 200k good running g truck but getting tired. OK enough yanking. Good video and take care
It is not a scam if you choose to not look at the vehicle.
Unfortunately the kid I bought it from was the one that got scammed. It was his first car and the “guy seemed nice” and the kid trusted him. If enough people ask, I can do more of a complete in depth dive in that situation, but unfortunately con men come in all shape and sizes, but unfortunately the con in con man stands for confident. Unfortunately just over a year ago I found out how dangerous they can be, and we’ll even hide behind a white jacket with specialist at the end of their name. Unfortunately we all get taken advantage a couple times in our lives. When it happens, it sucks sometimes a lot worse than others, and the older we get the more cynical we become. But remember, we were all naïve and young ones.
Who would have thought a 20 year old car in NY would be rusty underneath🤣
It’s more surprising that it’s not rusty above too. 😂 gotta love salt.
I worked in a service station in the very early sixties and our local doctor raced in with his winter beater with a heater and slammed to a stop beside the gas pumps. Just as the car came to a stop it slowly sagged in the center of the car as it broke in half. The doctor kicked the drivers door open, looked over at me as I stood there in absolute disbelief at what I was seeing, he yelled, Fill It Up, and grabbed his bag out of the car and ran down the street to his house to get his summer car which was a new Mercedes. Great to see a new video. Thank you.
Hahaha.some people are wild. And thank you
The clean interior is worth a grand alone. The engine and transmission has value along with all the glass and trim. $1000 is a deal for the amount of parts you got. Anyone with an ounce of sense should know if an entire vehicle is priced lower that the value of the tires on it........ well.....
I hear what you’re saying but that interior is not worth $1000. I just pulled it up on the interchange and I could get every part of this interior for under 500 bucks. Especially if I’m pulling it myself.
Good positive comment.
That's exactly what you get for $2000. A beater vehicle. Used work trucks usually go for more than that. The tires / wheels alone probably 800. The shell would scrap for $500. Couple hundred for the converter, engine and transmission each. There you go. $2000
I was going to comment about how I bought my work truck for $1200 just 6 months ago and it's been great but then I remembered all the work I had to do running down small issues and how rough the body "repairs" to the truck bed were and the parts I had to buy to get it really running well again. I'm probably $1000 in in parts and fluids into it now and if I had taken it somewhere to have it worked on instead of doing it myself then I'd probably be at about 4k in work.
honestly if the seller disclosed the rust issues $1000 still isnt a bad deal. that car could last another 5 winters in the salt belt
It's surprising how nice the interior is, while the frame has rotted away.
Right. Though we joke up here that’s the best way to have a complete class of cars to buy one up here and one down in Texas. Our interior is perfect, but the Texas car has no rust.
You're telling me you bought a Chevy trailblazer thinking it would be good I been a mechanic all my life and the trailblazer was junk from the factory 100%
lol. I’ve had it it to buy one of those 4.2 L Atlas engines for a while now. This was just the best route to get one after it’s all set and done. lol I like to collect engines and cars
And opinions are like assholes 🤷♂️
The trailblazers seemed to be hit or miss. I had one that was absolutely great. I bought a newer one that had the same inline engine but sucked down gas and never felt as good to drive
@@adriannarvaes4719 I loved mine too 😪 of course it had its issues. But it sure was an awesome suv
Hey what do you think about the trailblazer ss?
I know what you mean about buying from an uncle. My uncle tried to rip me off on a car he was selling. He was bragging about the car having 150,000 miles. Next year he was selling it with ONLY 60,000 miles.! Like you said, don't trust anybody!
Unfortunately the older I have gotten the less I trust people. Now trust has to be earned. Too many people are out for themselves these days.
Saw your video. Been a minute since you posted one, but have been watching the shorts.
Me... I'd do the same thing: Strip the drivetrain, transmission and salvage the rest for parts to get my money back. The rest is scrap. That thing is a liability not only on the road but just sitting there. Anyway, glad to see you posting videos again! Anxious for the next one.
It really is the best way to go, especially for budget projects. last year I think I only did four videos because I was doing a lot of production over at Hemmings but this year I’m going to target for an video a week
@@LunarOutlawsGarage I know. I've been watching the shorts and I subscribed to Hemmings, so, I'm watching the content on that channel too. Thanks for the reply.
@joikep it was a lot of fun working with those guys, and I have learned a lot from jr. and terry. That said I am really pumped to get back to my projects, and thank you for joining me on the adventures 🤙
Not everyone selling an older car tries to scam. When I sold my 1999 S500 Mercedes I offered a daily car to a fair price and left it open to anyone to inspect it. Also had some documentation.
i got scammed by my own family members from my dads side they said it ran when they parked it so i bought it for 500 and lord and behold the engine was locked up so we sold it for 200 to a we buy junk cars now i know not to trust anyone when buying vehicles
I've never ever hid any issues or problems with any vehicle I have sold in the past. Always full disclosure
As a backyard body work expert, you can fix a lot of stuff, a frame, no. So unless you’re doing a frame off restoration on a classic rare car, avoid.
I had a 2004 Trailblazer the exact same color. The body and drive train was in great shape, but the frame was shot, rusted beyond repair. I sold it to my young brother for next to nothing, he bought it for the engine and transmission. I loved that vehicle, and it was well taken care of, but the frame rust condemned the vehicle.
The first clue is body parts rust from the inside out. So doors and lower body panels where you can see rust indicates there is a lot more going on.
I’ve seen these Trailblazers be completely rust free with a clean beautiful body, but the rear control arms rusted right off the frame. People buy them and assume it’s all in good shape just because the body looks so good that they don’t even check underneath.
I was victim to an almost identical situation when I bought my first car. It was a Buick Park Avenue. Looked pristine up top, had a little surface rust on the door seams, but nothing to be worried about. 3800 ran great, and the car rode phenonenal with working air ride. Took it home for $2500, and was ecstatic to have my own wheels. I go to detail the thing and notice a hole clean through the side of the subframe by the rear wheel well. I then proceded to scoop out what remained of the rockers and then noticed I could see carpet from underneath the driver floorboard. While it sucked to get scammed, it taught me a lot of valuable lessons. Most importantly was to not trust anybody and to only shop for cars south of the Mason-Dixon line! 😅
It is really crappy when people will do. I’m sorry that you had something somewhere happen. I felt bad for the kid, and I saw don’t understand how people can be that way, but unfortunately they are
Original owner of a '08 Trailblazer. If I was to sell mine for $1000 it would be "as is, your risk." For a grand or negotiated lower, it isn't a scam.
The kid bought it from the guy for a lot more than $1000. In New York State, all private sales are as is. However, not disclosing frame damage is a scumbag thing to do.
It’s rare, but when I sell a car I disclose all the problems I know and give them the taillight warranty. However, I would never knowingly sell it kid a vehicle with a bunch of holes through it frame as his first car. Now I’m not saying you are, but if you are OK with doing something like that you need to look deep down in yourself and realize you have a problem.
ouch at that rust, it makes me almost glad its too cold to use salt for most of my winters
It is too cold where you live?! no thank you on that. We still use salt to the point where our roads look white and it gets down to-20 where I live
@@LunarOutlawsGarage -40f ambient is often the highs for a good part of winters up here , most of last week was in the -40 range , it did warm up to 5f today so its quite nice today
Straight off the bat, red flag its a chevy
😂whoa now shots fired 😂🤙
Always look under the vehicle, can't stress that enough! I have looked at several vehicles over the years that looked great, ran great and drove great, then I would crawl underneath and find either major rust issues like this one or major fluid leaks.
100% especially if you live in the rust belt, but especially if you live in the north east. I feel bad for the kid that bought this car It was very easily avoidable. I mean, I’ve seen people use spray foam insulation and Bondo to make it look like the frame is solid.
That seems to be the point of the video. Don’t judge a book by its cover and make sure you take someone with you that knows cars or have a professional look at it before purchasing so you don’t get scammed.
Sometimes we're just broke when we sell something, dude.
Very true, but you should approach every single vehicle like there’s hidden problems.
Thats too bad. Those vehicles with the straight 6 were very reliable and tough vehicles.
Just wait to see what I end up doing with that Atlas 4200. #amaribarra 💪💪
I guessed it right...most likely missing broken frame. Comestics mean nothing...salt kills a frame.
Yes it does. See channel frames get hit hard but the box frames like you get in a Jeep Wrangler become nightmares. There’s an old trick of whenever you change the oil you spray the old oil down inside the frame, anything you can do to protect it
I wouldn't drive it either, I can't believe how bad the rust is up there! Maybe you could find a good body and use the part's and build a good one.👍
Ya rust up here is wild. I bought it so that I could build one of those Amari Barra
Just sold a Cadillac CTS. I was extremely honest about all the issues and what work I’d had done to it.
I feel like that was a more common thing to do back when I was buying my first car compared to now. So thank you for being one of the good ones.🤙
I like that Buick GS in the background. I have a 69 Electra that's complete but not operable at the moment. Nice Supra also.
I drive a trailblazer. Looking for a cheap POS second one. I'll take a scam one
That mk.3 supra back there is itching for a big block inline 6 swap
please tell me that kid asked for pointers on the next one feel bad for him
Dam at least You can make all that back by selling it off as parts
That would make a great winter beater. I'd drive it.
Pulling in the engine out of it right now and right about where the transmission is. The frame is also rotted through. There is no way this would ever pass New York State inspection, and I would most definitely not put my kids in this vehicle
@LunarOutlawsGarage no inspections in MI. I did take my Silverado off the road because chunks of the frame were falling off. Still ran and drove great. I took the motor and trans out of it and stuffed them in my 94 s10.
@shadymaint1 and just like that that S-10 became bad ass. 🤙🤙
A lot of sellers on FB marketplace selling cars might been gotten the ideal from an old Kurt Russel film Used Cars (1980) selling lemon other webs may have the same way like eBay, and Craglist.
Yeah, there’s a lot of shady people out there
The miles do not add up with the problems. 30,000 miles should not have any mechanical problems at all.
130,000 is what it showed sir.
I misspoke on this it was corrected with a thing on the bottom of the screen. That being said last year, I stripped a 500 in.³ big black out of a truck that was used for salting. It only had 28,000 miles, but it had an absolutely destroyed frame. I was able to put a sharpie marker through the back of the frame. That said the 8.1 L Vortech and Allison 1000 transmission were in pristine condition.
What is an OBD2 sensor?
lol my brain was working slower than mouth. O2 sensor. I left it in without putting in a notation to see how long it would take for someone to make a comment. OBD two is the system used for emissions controls. It’s a standardized system that allows for a quick scan to see what fault codes you have.
@LunarOutlawsGarage that's funny. I'm an you tube university DIYer. I have a 91 ferd with OBD 1 and the rest of my junk is OBD2. This week I'm pulling my 5.3 and doing a DOD delete because of GMs AFM lifter failure. I was watching your video and heard the OBD senor and just had to comment. What caught my eye was the trailblazer I have an 05 with the 4.2 and almost 200k good running g truck but getting tired. OK enough yanking. Good video and take care
I believe if im not mistaken thats a straight 5 engine
That is the straight six Atlas 4200 engine nicknamed the Amari Barra. People been able to make curly ridiculous horsepower out of them in stock form
You're mistaken
Well you can keep the engine an transmission an sell the seats an doors an rims an tires
I’m going to be keeping the engine and be housing. I already have a buyer for the rest.
chevy like a ROCK
300 for scrap.
Currently up here with the catalytic converter between $400 - $500 depending on how generous they feel