Once you reach maximum stacks of the debuff, but your max hp is still more than 10, you can just restart the game to reset the debuff to its maximum duration. This way you can increase your health infinitely with just one mage.
Finding hearts and mages is far easier than finding Ambrosia. There are tons of both in the temple but I had runs where I found one bottle in the whole world.
One really good run where I found several ambrosia potions but not any max hps in the jungle, and a good run right after that one where I found a bunch of max hps and heart mages but no ambrosia lol
that's pretty much what happened, for a game about experimenting with different mechanics, being immune to debuffs and reversing them to your advantage seemed like a perfectly reasonable exploit to convert into a useable mechanic.
Great video. It's also possible to move hearts to the heart mage. Hearts will naturally fall if you dig under them. This means you can drop down an entire column of health refreshes for example to the level where the heart mage is at. So like for example if you find a heart mage in a parallel world, you can use blackholes to drop all the health refreshes down to that level. Even though the health refreshes are individually less strong, because they are all vertically in the same location they are actually just as valuable if not more valuable (if you have remaining ones above you). Another way to move hearts is by using vacuum field or circle of buoyancy. Each holy mountain contains a worm crystal, which you can redeem for more extra health pickups. Then you can drop those health pickups down to where your heart mages are at. And I do mean plural because if you go far enough with this you'll need multiple. Above about 10 thousand health you need two heart mages; above about 10 million you need three, etc.
Found you watching McQueeb. Love your content. Got my first unassisted basic win almost immediately after watching a couple of your videos (and about 500 hours of attempts).
Was like "20 minutes to explain this?" *Watches video* Ohhh, is it already over? 😅 Love the vids and thorough explanations/rants Dunk, I always take a few Noita runs after watching 👍
i died an unfortunate death (got polymorphed and nuked) after a very long god run when i tried doing sunseed, somehow watching your videos regenrate my curiosity to play the game
Every god run ends in polymorph death unless you do one of the many extremely elaborate ways to negate polymorph. Don’t let that stop you from getting the next god run
Loving the video's man, you should do some streams during normal hours. I have tried to watch a few, but not only do they start when I want to go to bed, but you spend an hour chatting before the run starts.
OMG! Give him your tele wand! So obvious!!!! Holy hell. I've spent literal days of my life trying to lure these idiots, over the course of various runs.... Last time I made a homebringer wand to pull one out from the Lukki Lair since the Jungle had none, even that took maybe 15min all told. Worth it cuz I'd collected five hearts in one place, but the stress levels were thru the roof.
Found this out myself, increased my health with the mage while having glass cannon, then picked another healthup without the heart curse and it got reset to 60 again ;_;
math sucks haha. thanks for the explanation. just recently really got into noita and i've really been appreciating your YT vids and twitch streams to help me learn. thanks so much for everything
You just have to be point blank to use this trick then, iits only a matter of getting the mage to stand on the ground or having enough flight/leggy mutation to stay on him. I had slow projectiles Projectile repulsion and a shield perk and was still able to do this easy enough kicking him around.
i am gonna take advantage of this on my latest run with glass cannon. problem is that the glass cannon spanws in the first holy mountain of east 1. i am planning on getting loads of health first so that i can have as many of the debuff as possible. then i am gonna use black holes to drop the perk all the way down to east jungle. then i just need to find a heart mage.
yesterday I watched you "a full noita run" video and I saw this glitch, now I've literally looked up for this tutorial mid run because there's a health mage and a health buff right in front of me but I have no ambrosia and I wasn't sure if it was required lol, guess I'll skip this
died in the temple to an exploding crystal because I had drill on my dps wand and it somehow dug precisely below the crystal that fell on my head and exploded btw
Extra Health scales with max health so it's not as useful for this trick as a static health bonus. I was surprised perks like Stronger Hearts and Extra Life weren't mentioned though.
does this trick work with the 50% HP perk as well...? I imagine that would get you some truly insane value on a single heart mage if you did it with even a couple hundred hp
Does the trick increase the ceiling for glass cannon or will your max HP revert to whatever it was before the trick if you pick hearts again without the debuff?
Mr Dunk. I have to admit. that when you're doing your tutorials... im secretly undressing you with my eyes... and putting Wizard clothes on you and I pretend you're a wizard teacher and theres a white board behind you. if you were wondering I picture you with purple robes, purple pointy hat with yellow stars motif on it.
some perk anti-synergies: - Projectile Repulsion Field: Will push the heart mage attack away - Revenge Bullets: Will cause you to fire a teleport bolt back at the mage, swapping spots instead of dragging him along. - Revenge Tentacle: If you tele-wand has any damage on it (like a chainsaw for speed) your tentacle will slap the mage to death
So I found one of these guys and gave him a rapid teleport want to move him around..... and uhh apparently he still shoots like normal while holding a wand? or did I mess up? I got Noita'd :'(
Did you have some kind of effect like berserkium or pheromone on you? Normally once you give the tele wand to the mage it won’t hit you with it’s normal attack
may can use summon worm tirck to get a lot of heart? i still don't get it. is that mean after i toke glass canon, how many mount's heart i get decide how many normal heart i can use this trick?
The summon work trick is pretty rough. It’s usually easier to just go through parallel worlds and grab perks to stack your health faster than the worm farming wand can. As for the confusion. Just know that you can benefit from hearts right away. Your benefits are just limited by glass cannon is all. You don’t need to do anything special. Just do the usual trick and you will gain. I was just trying to help others understand what was taking place
It's weird they call this a Roguelike since there are a bunch of arguably game-breaking exploits that just turn it into a "get knowledge > instawin" game. Like infinite money being another.
I might be wrong, but i think roguelike just means deaths are permanent and you fully restart after each death. 'Roguelike' is not an indication of the amount of exploits in a game, difficulty of the game, or anything else
I like to always go for a long run from the get go and not worry about possibly dying early. I find teleports usually in holy mountain shops without much struggle. Ambrosia is a little trickier, but fungal caverns has a high chance of spawning some even if its a dangerous place early on. Fungal caverns might also have some teleport and add mana spells as a bonus. If fungal cavern seems too dangerous for you to enter and you would like to be just a little more prepared, remember that you can leave snowy depths and climb back up to the lava lake without much digging or any god angering. As for black hole, i prefer luminous drill as its far more common find, even if its agonisingly slow without a good wand and some add mana. Earthquake spells are also a perfectly valid choice for digging, if you feel like being a true sigma male that is. Anyway, every run i start preparing the steps for god run as soon as the run begins, mainly looking for a way to skip holy mountains without angering Steve (polymorphine, teleportatium and teleport spells).
If we're talking about a proper long run, then good perks with very limited rerolls is basically a must. If you can't break the reroll machines, it's not worth it to go for the late game achievements and secrets at least. Another important thing is means to get to the parallel worlds. Teleport, ambrosia and black hole aren't strictly necessary, though usually you need at least two of the three. Wand-wise I'd say that killing the dragon when you get there is a good benchmark. If you manage that, you'll almost certainly get a good enough wand from him to carry you a lot farther. In the Temple of the Art you can evaluate if you're confident enough to get back to the surface through the Tower or if you should just go try to kill the boss and end the run. Finally when you're back on the surface, go kill the Alchemist(?) for some Greek letters and you're pretty much set for whatever you want to do.
I'm on a god run with every immunity and im still too chicken to try this. Knowing my luck i'll die to some offscreen enemy that teleports me straight into the worlds most convenient lava pool...
I think I understood the mechanics here. If you want things to be easier to understand in the future make it more clear what you are talking about. In this video things would be much easier to understand if you differentiate between "current HP" and "max HP" by calling it that. I had to guess what you are referring to every time you said HP.
"They could've easily remove it" - not true, removing it requires changing file system entirely and adding a lot of new variables, they just went for lazy solution to call bug a feature.
If they were lazy they wouldn't have put the effort to change the way these buffs work (so that they don't affect health below 10 HP). Also how is it hard to fix? When player gets hit, game saves their max hp (X) before the hit. if the player has 1 instance of debuff -> set current max hp to 1/2 of that X, 2 debuffs -> 1/4 of X. Hp upgrades picked up during debuff increase X instead of current max hp
The solution is already there with the way glass cannon works, all they have to do is log the health prior to change, log any addition of hearts during the debuff duration, then apply the hearts after the debuff runs out.
I really apreciate the massive balls of the noita devs for always allowing the community to break their game as the games breaks us
The line between exploit and game mechanic has never been thinner XD
Breaking the game is the objective!
With a game that throws so much bullshit at you, it's only fair that you can throw some bullshit at it in return
whole game is a lazy gamedev sandbox lol. Whole concept of wands creating is gamedesigner job done by player ;)
@@shelekhov damn you must be mad to revive a 1y old comment to complain about a game
Once you reach maximum stacks of the debuff, but your max hp is still more than 10,
you can just restart the game to reset the debuff to its maximum duration.
This way you can increase your health infinitely with just one mage.
Ahhhh nice trick haha. There’s always something more to learn!
Thank you i didn't know that
@@DunkOrSlam any chance you can maybe demonstrate this next stream?
Very interesting! I used to try to bring multiple of them around or bring a copycat mage along (they fire way faster) but it was a hassle for sure!
But then that becomes clearly in the scummy exploit zone xD
Still nice info
now you just gotta find a heart mage and hearts
Welcome to the jungle!
Finding hearts and mages is far easier than finding Ambrosia. There are tons of both in the temple but I had runs where I found one bottle in the whole world.
One really good run where I found several ambrosia potions but not any max hps in the jungle, and a good run right after that one where I found a bunch of max hps and heart mages but no ambrosia lol
@@K0T3J1 i usually find one heart per run with a couple of mages and 5+ ambrosia flasks sitting around in the first world:/
@@keksmemberone heart? you gotta look harder, there's usually 3+ in coal pits alone
"Oh wow that's a funny and innovative exploit, kinda hard to pull off, would be balanced if it had limits"
Gotta respect the devs for this.
Excuse me.
Is your PFP A Kerbal that looks like Shrek?
that's pretty much what happened, for a game about experimenting with different mechanics, being immune to debuffs and reversing them to your advantage seemed like a perfectly reasonable exploit to convert into a useable mechanic.
Very similar to Terraria's devs learning about the Hoik exploit and leaving it in and calling it a feature.
@@Known_as_The_Ghost Kerbal Shrek Program
@@fipachu He's expanding from a swamp to the entire galaxy!
I like how you explain first then demonstrate, makes things very clear!
3:00 Hey ! What if you die with "one more life" perk and heart mage debuff ?! Does it double 100hp ?
youre an incredibly good and patient teacher
Learned this trick from watching your long runs even before I bought the game. 😅 Still a great video, keep them coming. 😉
Got to 13k health, then polymorphed to lamma and one shot.
I also should mention that I shifted lava to fucking healthium in that run.. I felt like you for a glimpse, then quickly felt like me again.
skill issue
Happened to me the first time I pulled it off too. You're never too OP in this game is the lesson I've learned.
Now... imagine this approach in NG+ worlds when their rate of fire becomes faster. That would mean even more stacks before they begin to expire.
Someone said if you restart the game, the timer gets reset to its max duration. Meaning you can already get infinite stacks
@@gabe8168Cessation now resets the timer too, probably a nod to the restart exploit lol
Great video. It's also possible to move hearts to the heart mage. Hearts will naturally fall if you dig under them. This means you can drop down an entire column of health refreshes for example to the level where the heart mage is at. So like for example if you find a heart mage in a parallel world, you can use blackholes to drop all the health refreshes down to that level. Even though the health refreshes are individually less strong, because they are all vertically in the same location they are actually just as valuable if not more valuable (if you have remaining ones above you). Another way to move hearts is by using vacuum field or circle of buoyancy. Each holy mountain contains a worm crystal, which you can redeem for more extra health pickups. Then you can drop those health pickups down to where your heart mages are at. And I do mean plural because if you go far enough with this you'll need multiple. Above about 10 thousand health you need two heart mages; above about 10 million you need three, etc.
Alternatively to moving the hearts to the heart mage you can move the heart mage to the hearts using homebringer teleport bolt
@@aperturescienceguy2737only one heart though, it makes more sense to move many hearts to one mage
Found you watching McQueeb. Love your content. Got my first unassisted basic win almost immediately after watching a couple of your videos (and about 500 hours of attempts).
Wow this game is advanced! Thank you for showing the tips and tricks 😁
Was like "20 minutes to explain this?"
*Watches video*
Ohhh, is it already over? 😅
Love the vids and thorough explanations/rants Dunk, I always take a few Noita runs after watching 👍
i haven't heard anyone say "oh snap" since i was in school
In your next video, can you explain the dark rituals you performed to become a god gamer?
i died an unfortunate death (got polymorphed and nuked) after a very long god run when i tried doing sunseed, somehow watching your videos regenrate my curiosity to play the game
Every god run ends in polymorph death unless you do one of the many extremely elaborate ways to negate polymorph. Don’t let that stop you from getting the next god run
Great pedagogy! I would definitely apply to Noita University under your tutelage.
i can't wait to see you do the glass canon trick in a fully run
There's more to the heart mage than I thought and I also didn't know about large extra max hp.
Dang ! Thank you so much, I love your videos when you show off advanced game manipulating like that, keep it up !
Ive done this trick multiple times already, i know how it works, but i just wanted to watch the video
Ngl even with the nerf this is still extremely overpowered. Hope they keep it tho because I love getting 10k health in wizards den
Also doesn't homebringer bolt work on hearts
Loving the video's man, you should do some streams during normal hours. I have tried to watch a few, but not only do they start when I want to go to bed, but you spend an hour chatting before the run starts.
new favorite creature
I used to think that too but their movement AI is fucked.
Haha I needed that vid yesterday. I found heart mage standing on top of the heart. But I didn't have an ambrosia. Threw away great run 😭
Thank you for explaining it. I appreciate it greatly
OMG! Give him your tele wand! So obvious!!!! Holy hell. I've spent literal days of my life trying to lure these idiots, over the course of various runs.... Last time I made a homebringer wand to pull one out from the Lukki Lair since the Jungle had none, even that took maybe 15min all told. Worth it cuz I'd collected five hearts in one place, but the stress levels were thru the roof.
Wow I didn't know that it worked with glass cannon
Wow up 4 hrs and 2k views. Al Gores Rhythm is loving your content.
Found this out myself, increased my health with the mage while having glass cannon, then picked another healthup without the heart curse and it got reset to 60 again ;_;
math sucks haha. thanks for the explanation. just recently really got into noita and i've really been appreciating your YT vids and twitch streams to help me learn. thanks so much for everything
Hey, could you do a guide for the Divide By class of spells? The wiki guide is a little complicated...
This is one reason why science is so cool.
By the way, having the shield perk /spell equipped makes this trick near impossible.
You just have to be point blank to use this trick then, iits only a matter of getting the mage to stand on the ground or having enough flight/leggy mutation to stay on him. I had slow projectiles Projectile repulsion and a shield perk and was still able to do this easy enough kicking him around.
i wonder if the devs are still adding stuff. I'd really like more geometry/spacial control over my spells.
i am gonna take advantage of this on my latest run with glass cannon. problem is that the glass cannon spanws in the first holy mountain of east 1. i am planning on getting loads of health first so that i can have as many of the debuff as possible. then i am gonna use black holes to drop the perk all the way down to east jungle. then i just need to find a heart mage.
God damn glass cannon kinda thick
yesterday I watched you "a full noita run" video and I saw this glitch, now I've literally looked up for this tutorial mid run because there's a health mage and a health buff right in front of me but I have no ambrosia and I wasn't sure if it was required lol, guess I'll skip this
died in the temple to an exploding crystal because I had drill on my dps wand and it somehow dug precisely below the crystal that fell on my head and exploded btw
An entire science video and we don't even once use the Extra Health perk while debuffed lol.
Extra Health scales with max health so it's not as useful for this trick as a static health bonus. I was surprised perks like Stronger Hearts and Extra Life weren't mentioned though.
.......................... you can kick the wand out of their hand??
Yah when you kick an enemy holding a wand they will drop the wand every time =)
you just need to find ambrosia flask and this guy near the heart in the run :D
I'd love to understand some more ways to abuse wand refresher.
I know this already but i still play the video to listen to uncle Chase !uguu
if you already have glass cannon (50 hp) you can be hit 3 times then pick up hearts
Hey dunk! I frequent your streams and was wondering if you could do a wandbuilding tutorial, especially on limited resources like early DPS
This still works I wow. Time to cheese some noites
does this trick work with the 50% HP perk as well...? I imagine that would get you some truly insane value on a single heart mage if you did it with even a couple hundred hp
240 hour playtime, and I've never seen this enemy debuff
Does the trick increase the ceiling for glass cannon or will your max HP revert to whatever it was before the trick if you pick hearts again without the debuff?
Awesome! I always used this but it confused me
Mr Dunk. I have to admit. that when you're doing your tutorials... im secretly undressing you with my eyes... and putting Wizard clothes on you and I pretend you're a wizard teacher and theres a white board behind you.
if you were wondering I picture you with purple robes, purple pointy hat with yellow stars motif on it.
nice vide bro lov u
This game is so cool for allowing players to do wizard shit on a meta level.
It seems to me that the heartmages also spawn a lot in the near of hearts
some perk anti-synergies:
- Projectile Repulsion Field: Will push the heart mage attack away
- Revenge Bullets: Will cause you to fire a teleport bolt back at the mage, swapping spots instead of dragging him along.
- Revenge Tentacle: If you tele-wand has any damage on it (like a chainsaw for speed) your tentacle will slap the mage to death
projectile repulsion field makes it harder but not impossible
Hey, that's pretty good!
How does this work with the double health perk and such?
Double the health gain. So if you did the trick and should have got 800 HP then you will get 1600 HP
So I found one of these guys and gave him a rapid teleport want to move him around..... and uhh apparently he still shoots like normal while holding a wand? or did I mess up? I got Noita'd :'(
Did you have some kind of effect like berserkium or pheromone on you? Normally once you give the tele wand to the mage it won’t hit you with it’s normal attack
@@DunkOrSlam no clue, I tried to out teleport him but that didnt go so well hahahah, I was carrying pheromone but I dont think I had it on myself
What about the more love or more hate perks? That also messes with the aggression
@@DunkOrSlam nope, no idea why he was so agressive with a wand
Nice!
bro said cheat- goey
wazzup dunk
may can use summon worm tirck to get a lot of heart? i still don't get it. is that mean after i toke glass canon, how many mount's heart i get decide how many normal heart i can use this trick?
The summon work trick is pretty rough. It’s usually easier to just go through parallel worlds and grab perks to stack your health faster than the worm farming wand can.
As for the confusion. Just know that you can benefit from hearts right away. Your benefits are just limited by glass cannon is all. You don’t need to do anything special. Just do the usual trick and you will gain. I was just trying to help others understand what was taking place
what about with telekinetic kick?
glass ceiling lol. should've just said that from the beginning lol
How did he get the heart mage to drop the teleport wand?
I think you can kick wand carrying enemies to have them drop it
Wait I tought it was patched
A Like and Comment for the robot overlords
Imagen if you use this withe 2 of them and the worm farm
And in a real run its usable? How can u get some mages to hearts or the other way?
Edit: Without cheating....
It's weird they call this a Roguelike since there are a bunch of arguably game-breaking exploits that just turn it into a "get knowledge > instawin" game. Like infinite money being another.
I might be wrong, but i think roguelike just means deaths are permanent and you fully restart after each death.
'Roguelike' is not an indication of the amount of exploits in a game, difficulty of the game, or anything else
wow spawned things in , not a truh noita :D
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how do you determine if you are going for a long run, i struggle to ever find abrosia, black hole, and a tele wand in the same run
I like to always go for a long run from the get go and not worry about possibly dying early. I find teleports usually in holy mountain shops without much struggle. Ambrosia is a little trickier, but fungal caverns has a high chance of spawning some even if its a dangerous place early on. Fungal caverns might also have some teleport and add mana spells as a bonus. If fungal cavern seems too dangerous for you to enter and you would like to be just a little more prepared, remember that you can leave snowy depths and climb back up to the lava lake without much digging or any god angering. As for black hole, i prefer luminous drill as its far more common find, even if its agonisingly slow without a good wand and some add mana. Earthquake spells are also a perfectly valid choice for digging, if you feel like being a true sigma male that is. Anyway, every run i start preparing the steps for god run as soon as the run begins, mainly looking for a way to skip holy mountains without angering Steve (polymorphine, teleportatium and teleport spells).
If we're talking about a proper long run, then good perks with very limited rerolls is basically a must. If you can't break the reroll machines, it's not worth it to go for the late game achievements and secrets at least. Another important thing is means to get to the parallel worlds. Teleport, ambrosia and black hole aren't strictly necessary, though usually you need at least two of the three. Wand-wise I'd say that killing the dragon when you get there is a good benchmark. If you manage that, you'll almost certainly get a good enough wand from him to carry you a lot farther. In the Temple of the Art you can evaluate if you're confident enough to get back to the surface through the Tower or if you should just go try to kill the boss and end the run. Finally when you're back on the surface, go kill the Alchemist(?) for some Greek letters and you're pretty much set for whatever you want to do.
can explain it in 5 mins.... not 23
adhd heart mage lmao 20:56
I'm on a god run with every immunity and im still too chicken to try this. Knowing my luck i'll die to some offscreen enemy that teleports me straight into the worlds most convenient lava pool...
F*ck, I'm already addicted to this game but you are making this worse!
Not quite 'cheat', but definitely 'cheese'. I'll pass. :)
Keep in mind that some of the ultra late game stuff is balanced with these kind of exploits in mind!
I think I understood the mechanics here. If you want things to be easier to understand in the future make it more clear what you are talking about.
In this video things would be much easier to understand if you differentiate between "current HP" and "max HP" by calling it that. I had to guess what you are referring to every time you said HP.
"They could've easily remove it" - not true, removing it requires changing file system entirely and adding a lot of new variables, they just went for lazy solution to call bug a feature.
If they were lazy they wouldn't have put the effort to change the way these buffs work (so that they don't affect health below 10 HP). Also how is it hard to fix? When player gets hit, game saves their max hp (X) before the hit. if the player has 1 instance of debuff -> set current max hp to 1/2 of that X, 2 debuffs -> 1/4 of X. Hp upgrades picked up during debuff increase X instead of current max hp
The solution is already there with the way glass cannon works, all they have to do is log the health prior to change, log any addition of hearts during the debuff duration, then apply the hearts after the debuff runs out.