Major route planning improvements in this October update compared to earlier releases. Remember it wasn't long ago they did not have multi-charger stops planning for your route, now they are giving us real-time plug availability at each recommended stop in the route planner. Hope they continue to rapidly improve it further.
Omg exactlyyyy ... My son used to fall asleep with the rain sound it used to instantly calm him down.. After the update when I play it he's still screaming 😭😅
@@sandee_xx Yep, I loved the rain sound one, was great calming noise for my son. now it's just noise with music... why did they add music to all of them? just ruins them all.
We use the sounds of nature very often to help the kids fall asleep in the car if we're out late or are driving during nap time. I'm glad they are keeping up with it! Thanks so much for the video!
Lot of people seem to hate on it, but I have a child with ASD who will love the sounds of nature. tried it on the test drive and thought it was a great feature.
I think setting lower arrival SoC and a manual pre-condition button (so you don’t need to use the built-in nav) are the only two real outstanding features they need to add.
I would add "ignoring the DC charging limit during trip planning" to that. If the car ist planning a route, it would be totally fine If at one stop it just charges to lets say 70 and at another one to 95 depending on availability, route etc. Sticking to the set % which really is for battery health when leaving the car at this percentage for longer doesn't make sense.
Looks like the route logic is doing the following: 1. Find the farthest charger you can make within a certain buffer. 2. Charge to your DC limit. This isn’t great for route efficiency… 3. Find the next charger within the new range. 4. Repeat.
I saw the charging stop mid-route update in action today. Was on my way home from a long trip and churning through battery going uphill when it told me I might not make it home and it could add a charging stop if I wanted. I knew I’d be fine to make it home without since I was coming up on a downhill section, but it was cool to see nonetheless.
I just had to do an emergency drive from Atlanta to NJ, and used the new route planner. It was overall great! The only issue I experienced was exactly what you said - it is too conservative when looking at lower battery percentages. But I was so pleased to simply allow the car to make the recommendations!
Did you skip any of it's suggested stops knowing you could make it to one further down the road? If you did, how did it react? It didn't tell you to turn around did it?
@@TheIoniqGuy I skipped one between Statesville NC and Fincastle VA. The thing wanted me to stop at a Circle K for a fill up between the EA stations. I made it to Fincastle with less than 10%, which was fine but slightly sweaty palms at 12:30am after driving for 7-8 hours. And I manually reprogrammed the system to take me to Fincastle VA instead of driving past the Circle K to see what would happen, so I can't say how the system would have reacted.
Can’t wait to get it in Europe. This winter I’m going on a 700 mile trip (Netherlands-Austria) and return a week later. Planning on using the navigation on my Kia
I would like to see you take that trip in your car and update us on how accurate each leg of it is in terms of arrival percentage, charge time/rate, etc. And show us another route in Canada because I'm in Canada and things are not as rosy here as it is for you in the land of DC chargers. You have it really nice where you live.
I'd give it a shot going from Niagara to Thunder Bay next week, but the state of PetroCanada's charging network makes it a no go. I'll be driving a Model Y instead.
Yah - I’ve had my car charge over 200kw - ONCE - in almost 2 yrs of ownership in Canada. It really is bad. But on a road trip to US soon - hoping to actually get some decent charging speeds - IF - EA will cooperate 😂
Definitely would like to know if it will guide you down to 10% SOC (agree we need to be able to select that low SOC). If you skip the 30% SOC charger it planned what do you need to do to continue to the final destination? Can you delete the 30% charge stop? Would it automatically add in another charging stop if you couldn’t make it to the second charger it had pre-planned after passing the 30% SOC stop? Is it faster to reload the route once past that 30%SOC stop? Looks like it has potential but I’m with you. I can charge 0% to 82% in 22 minutes but anything over that appears to be programmed to ramp down after a minute or two pause. I’d like to see that SOC limit scale set by 5% increments to use those last 3% to cabin condition and cool the system. 13:18
Looks good...we are leaving on a 14,000km road trip next Saturday. I will load the update in our I5 before we leave and we'll see how it works! 😊 Mike 🇨🇦
Thanks...just did the update and worked slick as a whistle! Had to find a USB stick big enough to load the data (64GB). The new nav software does indeed provide a lot more information and data. We'll see how it works once we load destinations into it! Mike 🇨🇦
Oh good - this is coming at the perfect time before I head on long trip soon. Hoping it is a much smoother experience than last year with the preconditioning and this. I’ll report back.
Well - it worked fairly well. On my very first day though it wasn’t working at all. Took me a minute to realize the whole system was broken. Only day I had to use ABRP - still the battery preconditioning helped with plugging in the charging stops. Day 2/3 just used the on board navigation- I did modify once as I was stuck charging at a traffic jammed and 2 broken - 1 derated and one fully functioning stop - left as soon as I could get to next stop to free charger and also didn’t want to be there charging slowly. Didn’t need preconditioning as I was in warm CA by that time. Used a lot of stops that I remember from last year with ABRP - so went smoothly. Used again just on board all the way back. Preconditioning was clutch once I hit N. CA at night. Again similar stations as with ABRP last year - though first stop the side info window with the waypoint charging info was different from the directions which led me to a closer station with fairly high charge - didn’t realize without my coffee until later. I did go against its recommendation for a further charger - had to be a little conservative with speed as it was cold and needed preconditioning. I wasn’t sure if it would stop preconditioning under 20% or just needed to get it started by 20%. It did indeed stop preconditioning at 19% about 10 minutes out so my battery was slightly cold on arrival but nothing near like it was last year. All in all worked pretty well. Does sometimes get a bit wonky. On last stretch home had more than plenty to get home but it kept vacillating between wanting me to charge and being like nah it’s fine. EA while still needing to improve a lot was definitely doing better than last year. I think Hyundai could certainly tweak it more - especially not stopping preconditioning under 20%. But good B - attempt IMO. I hit max charge twice on this trip which still has a lot to improve on. That was mostly EA issues. But prior to this trip since Feb of 2022 I have achieved max charge exactly once. If you think EA is bad - definitely don’t come to Canada. Oh vey! 🤦♀️
Great video and great info. I'm going to do this update today while I clean my car out from a camping trip! We love the v2l feature to run everything. I would love to use the new route planning on the next road trip. Hopefully the audio quality is a little better with this one.
S. o I contacted the map update group used by Hyundai and there is a known issue. Some people are having success others are not. There are some files that are wrong that are being down loaded, which then prevent it from uploading correctly so nothing you can do about it they’re working on a fix.
Happy to see updates from Hyundai. No issues to complain about, picked up my 2023 IONIQ 5 Limited 8/27 - just hit 4,000 miles. So far - great experience.
the nav/route planning stuff doesn't really apply to me, but the #1 feature i'd like added in the future is an easier way to start battery pre-conditioning. it's such a pain to HAVE to use the built-in nav to trigger it. hopefully they'll figure something out for that functionality in the future!
I agree, they make it overly difficult to need to goto the nav then find a charging station and create a route to go there. Much easier (and safer) to just have 1 click to turn on pre conditioning when you know you will be charging soon. But they still haven't got pre conditioning to work on mine, it's been updated and they said battery conditioning was verified but there is no option to enable it, it only has Winter Mode. No battery conditioning mode or option.
I'm surprised the trip planner is always charging up to a specified state of charge. It makes no sense to charge more than necessary to arrive at the next stop with a suitable safety margin. Sure, people can debate the best safety margin, but I'd expect it to pick something conservative like 15 or 20% and go with it. That said, at least it's doing trip planning and battery preconditioning. Charging speed is on point. Gotta give Hyundai credit for that!
I might be in the minority but I do use the sound of nature feature regularly. It’s basically like white noise in the car. It’s got a calming effect on me
@@michaelcottenden3216 It’s just a bunch of audio files. Low hanging fruit, not hard to update. Different team does those, obviously. They’re the same worldwide too, no region-specific issues in these.
@@fleecystheking i'm hoping they add fake engine noise next like the Ioniq 6 has. again, wouldn't be hard to implement in an update and some people really don't like a purely silent car. my kids get carsick with no engine noise. (i know a lot of people hate fake engine noise, but it can always be turned off) the "iconic sounds" engine noises in the BMW i4 sound fantastic imo.
I would also love for them to add the personalized drive mode you can create in the Ioniq 6. I really enjoyed that feature as I would love to have the heavier steering from sport mode but in normal or eco mode.
I agree that using a charger from 40 to 80 doesn't make much sense. However, the low limit that seems to be 15% is consistent with the manual which says that you should immediately charge when your car battery is discharged to 15%. There is a reason in the chemistry behind that, pretty the same that makes you charge to 80% instead of 100%.
I did a long trip, around 3000 miles through Europe, with the earlier version, without the percentage display. It was exactly the same. It calculated the percentage in the background without showing you. Since everybody was wailing for that for some reason, they added it. Should have been easy enough to do, too. However, I don't know if they alteady included weather and topographic information in their calculation. It's obvious they want you to go to a charger between 15 and 25%, because they don't precondition the battery below 20%. It doesn't matter that much, because a) the car will hold the peak longer if you plug in earlyer, so you don't really loose time, and b) if you know you can get to a charger further down the road, you can simply keep driving and the route planner will adjust it's routing accordingly.
nice,,, they should show chargers for the entire route ,,, not just 3 ,, i think they have charging above 20% as i read somewhere that the 12 v battery does not get charged below 20 % and if you go down to 4, 5 % etc you could end up with a dead 12 v
I like the new route updates. I wish there was a way to route at the comfort of your home and send the route plans to the car on the day of the trip. Is this even possible?
The only thing I know is that you can send destinations from your phone maps to Bluelink and the car will receive it once you start it up and plan the route for you.
Downloading the update now and will install asap! On the PA/I80 route, there's nothing there except for just the few EA stations listed. Same for along I76. Funding was approved for a bunch more stations which will make visiting family less nerve-wracking in the near future :) I would like to see if I can still use the Waze display for its alerts even though the in-car routing is enabled. In an ideal world, i could still use Waze or ABPR for routing since I don't like how the in-car navigation shows directions. I have missed a lot of turns because of how confusing it is.
Yes SOC info also disappeared from my 2023 I5 SEL sometime early this year after couple of month usage since 2023 Oct update. We need our Ioniq Guy to comment on this thing.
Mine still looks the same as the original update but once you set a destination you can click on the checkered flag with total distance at the bottom and you’ll see all your charging stops with the SOC at each one
In my humble opinion, it is looking like a good update. This is one of the beauties of over the air software updates. Are you still working on the Ioniq 6 video?
Hyundai pay is for if you stop at an DC station that as an agreement with Hyundai... you will not need to use your credit card... it is the same as Tesla ... you Connect the cable... car talk with the Charger agree and load electricity and your car pay automatically.
Exactly 48 minutes for the update and then couple of extra minutes for restart and restore data. There was one warning that popped up during the update and now it disappeared. So I guess it is some random notification that happened. Route planner improvements are awesome
That EVgo at the Holiday Inn in Sturbridge, Mass is a quality station. I wish it were closer to the Pike but it's been reliable and there's food/bathroom nearby at Panera.
One thing I wish they would do with the routing software is to include the entire trip instead of just the first four stops. For instance, for me, in Houston, if I plan a trip to San Diego I would like to know what they have instore for me way beyond just the first four charging stops. So, I still have to do more pre-planning than what Tesla travelers have to do. Also, not much in the way of selecting other routes if you don't like the one Hyundai chooses for you. I guess you just starting driving the route you want and see how the route planner recalculates for you. And hope for the best.
It’s sad that they aren’t going to update the system to get equal to the new Kona. With that said no Netflix, no Amazon prime and no sentry mode within the ioniq 5s, maybe the 2025 models.
They forgot a feature in the NAV to tell you how many freebies are hogging the chargers going to 100% because the manufacturer did the bad thing of offering 3yrs of free charging something Tom Moloughney has a entire rant video about and I totally agree with. Until there is multiple providers with multiple sites with many many chargers per site all highly reliable but even then I would rather them only offer a limited amount of free charging(eg: 100kWh) or discounted charging but not free for 3yrs.
I agree completely with both you and Tom. I'd be more on board with the promotion if it were a fixed amount of kWh like how Kia has done it with the EV6. I believe they get 1000 kWh which could last someone a long time if they're saving it for the occassional road trip but unlimited is out of hand.
Great update. Agree on the arriving at better state of charge, but have they fixed the preconditioning so it would work below 20%? Also I’m still getting the red coil not a snowflake for my prewarming…
Thank you, very interesting and explained quite good. I think it will take a litte bit having it available in Germany. I will download and install it after, because the new route options of the previous and coming Updates are overdue.
Totally agree on your thoughts about the Navi update. I was waiting for this one ever since getting the car (1,5y). Hopefully now I can do without the standard backup ABRP & Maps. And like you, I like to drive it below 10% before rolling in for some juice. So lets hope in a next update they build in a option/rule to force the planner to go beyond. All the other changes are just gimmicks to me, meaningless. Thx you for this clear and informed movie 🍿
Hey there! Big fan of your channel! Thanks for all the great information. I got my 2023 Ioniq 5 SEL about 6 months ago and I absolutely love it. I currently live in Salt Lake City and have made several driving trips to California. I was excited to see this post of yours with the latest OTA Navigation Update. I promptly downloaded the update and it is now installed in my car. So far, I like it. I like the Navigation update. I think it will help when planning road trips. In fact, I'm driving to CA again this week and will use the new updated system. Fingers crossed that it will work effectively. The other feature I like is the system volume. Like you, and perhaps many others, I found that I had to crank up the volume in order to hear music playing. Now that they have re-calibrated the sound, volume is so much better. I'm happy about that. The new Nature Sounds seem to be nice, too. Haven't tried anything else in regards to the update yet, but wanted to let you know and thank you for info about this one. Keep up the good work. P.S. I recently bought from you a magnet and the charging light cover. Love them. Thanks!
We also live in SLC. We have driven several times to Las Vegas, and LA. We have an idea we're we need to charge now, so I assume you do too so it will be interesting if it matches your expectations. Be awesome if you can post your update here.
Hey Corbin, just updated (i was the one who made the reddit post about the new route planning a couple days ago, if you saw it) but my charger availability doesnt work in the car. It says i need to activate bluelink, but it is... And same with Hyundai Pay (which i think is a pretty neat feature) do i actually have to call them, or whats the deal with this?
Did they fix the bad Bluetooth handsfree audio quality from iPhones? The sound in the speaker has been good, but the microphone had no good audio quality since the summer 2023 update.
Updated my 2023 Niro EV but looks like the route planning does not show the SoC or how long to charge for it will only plan the charging stops like before 😥
Personnaly I would like to see the following updates. 1. allow you to have the option to have your rear camera on when driving. Takes the place of having no rear window wiper. 2. allow bluetooth to operate Apple Carplay without having to plug it in.
regarding no.1 you can't do that? I can do that in Europe. I have the rear camera on constantly. it's a great feature. you can also have the top down view on while driving which is ... pointless but a great gimmick. looks like you are driving in GTA1,
May be the pre- conditioning still stopp at 20%. That`s why you only have these choises. I have experinced this in winter in Norway (before the last update..)
Fyi i found on my ioniq 6 if you hit the car on the battery display it brings you to that secondary page without going through all the different menus.
The Canadian version only indicates the navigation update. I was looking forward to the audio update too but will be OK with the changes to the navigation software.
I find the Hyundai map unusable because it doesn’t identify cross streets far enough ahead of time. Also fonts for streets are too small so hard to read while driving. I end up using Apple maps or Google maps.
From what I can tell Hyundai botched the update either for MY23 or possibly for limited trim? I've double checked that I downloaded and installed the correct update. There is a separate one for MY23 and MY22. Basically the only 2 options. However I and others have completely different results. I'm willing to bet that those of you that don't have the tow info, hyundai pay is not erroring out and have issues with charging station info in split screen and in general are either on a 23 or a limited for either year. I'm betting all '23s will be like mine and the '22s will be like Corbins? Hopefully this all gets sorted out with a new update. Maybe they will pull it and re-post like thy did with the April/May update. Or maybe it will get sorted OTA? I only downloaded for the volume adjustment, but rethinking now I don't like either way it was. A middle of the road fix like 20=old 35-40 rather than 10. That would be more inline with other cars and head units I've had in the past. However not may of those go all the way to 75 or whatever the top is. For fear of blowing another woofer I'm not pushing it that far. I blew a Rockford Fosgate woofer in a 2-way. I ended up going back to stock since the aftermarket speakers and woofer blow made the sound system and then entire car infotainment go completely nutso. The system does have a ton of power and I don't get how the stock speakers survive the volumes and tone control most people throw at it. Unlike anything I have experienced before. Not planning any long road trips esp. with Winter setting in soon so most of the updates are a yawn for me.
I have a 2023 Kia Soul EV here in Canada (not sold in the US). Our screens looks similar to what you’re showing on the Ioniq 5. The last update was supposed to add battery preconditioning for us but I still to this day cannot find it in my settings. All I see is “Winter Mode” but no mention of battery preconditioning and even if I turn on Winter Mode, my Kia Connect app still says “battery preconditioning is off.” Nobody, not even my Kia dealer, seems to be able to figure this out. I hope this newest update gives me that option because having just done a road trip for Canadian Thanksgiving, I couldn’t tell if my battery was getting warmed for faster charging. The weather was chilly & the charging sessions definitely seemed longer than usual. Anybody with a 2023 Kia Soul EV who’s reading this comment, would love your insight if you have any to share!
I like it because I am a nerd. lol. I'm new to EV ownership and I recall getting those updates and it telling me my display would be disabled until it was done. Kinda freaked me out a bit since I had not had the car more than 2 days before the update. One thing I don't know about is Bluelink. If I need it and how to get it. My car is a 2023 SEL trim and I am not the original owner. I got it at 1100 miles which in my opinion is still new. How can I register as its owner now? Anyway, thanks for the video. All the best.
10:48 I think Tesla tells you to charge from 42% to 74% at this stop, instead of the maximum. And I have a huntch and I'll watch the rest of the video for the reason. 11:30 Edit: I think it's a bug or not refreshed to show non EA ones?
Argh. I did the update. Everything works EXCEPT showing the charging station status in split screen. It says to activate bluelink. But it is activated.
The dealerships pretty much always refuse to install navigation updates. Those folks will likely just have to wait for the over the air update to arrive
Is there any way of removing sounds of nature? Inadvertently I touched one when I first got my Kia, now every time I turn on I get these idiotic noises. I’ve turned the volume down, but it still drives me nuts.
I was never successful completing the May update using a USB and never saw an OTA update either. This navigation update seems worth giving the manual process another try.
I think this time they fixed most of the issues for the route planning. Further tweaks will make it better. But now, I think it is at least usable. One thing I would like to see is the range bubble around each charger along the route so that we can skip a charger or two
It took many attempts but I did finally get this update to install. I never did figure out why the previous attempts failed. Multiple times the car said the files were incompatible, then twice it said the files were corrupted. I used the same thumb drive with the same files a third time and it worked. One huge improvement would be for Hyundai to quickly provide all of these navigation updates OTA. So far it still seems hit or miss when or even if OTA updates occur. Of course this is the first vehicle I've owned that is capable of updates of any kind.
I think Hyundai cannot open the OTA to all the customers as this may cause system hanging and servers getting clogged. It is just a guess that that is why only few people are getting OTAs now. Maybe there are other reasons too.@@COSolar6419
I suspect the route planner is including extra stops in case chargers are down and you can likely skip them and have it adapt. Starting a charge at such a high SoC is likely to make charging slower though so it could be frustrating for sure. Not seeing Hyundai Pay here in Canada on either of my Konas.
I am waiting for them to update my kona electric, but in Europe I don't see a new update for the ioniq5 either, latest ist June 2023. By the way, it triggered me a little that you never used the options button with the navigation.
I wish they hadn’t changed the volume calibration so much, what’s the point of having most of the volume range be deafeningly loud. It also makes it harder to fine tune the volume.
I agree 20=old 40 would be better than the new 10=35-40. I'd like a setting for db or sub db per click or maybe a couple-4 sensitivity option settings. I didn't like cranking it before but I could dial in the clicks very precisely.
@@ravishah49 I think you are mistaking volume with fidelity. It's a common misconception. No amount of software update is going to improve the speakers, amplifiers and source. Other than higher volume at lower control settings I haven't heard any improvement. I did notice that the sub is more active now at lower volumes. So maybe that is what you are hearing. They might have monkeyed with the eq curve also. I know many cars and systems have a loudness l type feature where bass, lower notes and treble is boosted at lower listening levels. That might have been defeated at the higher number settings before. It's too bad I never had the chance to get the spl meter and test discs out to see how flat or exaggerated the curve is in this car. I will now that it's been changed.
I am debating between the I5 and Mach e and my only gripe with the i5 is the lackluster software update or the software in general when compared to the mach e. This update did give me hope that Hyundai isn't just all hardware company. Then again mach e lacks the hardware stuff that the I5 has so really you can't win both ways...
I absolutely hated the Mach e when I test drove it compared to this car. it felt very cramped, had truly horrific brakes and is much smaller in the trunk etc. I found the software in general much better in the Ioniq 5 as well considering it has a lot more options (maybe it's because im in the UK)
Major route planning improvements in this October update compared to earlier releases. Remember it wasn't long ago they did not have multi-charger stops planning for your route, now they are giving us real-time plug availability at each recommended stop in the route planner. Hope they continue to rapidly improve it further.
Honestly we liked the sounds of nature before they added the music to them. It’s stupid to have “sounds of nature” that aren’t just sounds of nature.
Let's hope that intermittent ads aren't next 😀
Don’t give them any ideas! 🙃
EXACTLY!
Omg exactlyyyy ... My son used to fall asleep with the rain sound it used to instantly calm him down.. After the update when I play it he's still screaming 😭😅
@@sandee_xx Yep, I loved the rain sound one, was great calming noise for my son. now it's just noise with music... why did they add music to all of them? just ruins them all.
We use the sounds of nature very often to help the kids fall asleep in the car if we're out late or are driving during nap time. I'm glad they are keeping up with it! Thanks so much for the video!
Lot of people seem to hate on it, but I have a child with ASD who will love the sounds of nature. tried it on the test drive and thought it was a great feature.
I love lively Forest
Just got my Ioniq 5 that came without updates, loved sounds of nature. updated it and they added music to all my fave ones... just moronic. :/
I think setting lower arrival SoC and a manual pre-condition button (so you don’t need to use the built-in nav) are the only two real outstanding features they need to add.
Manual pre-condition came live with the 2023 Kona. Unfortunately, Hyundai seems really bad at getting new features on older models.
I would add "ignoring the DC charging limit during trip planning" to that.
If the car ist planning a route, it would be totally fine If at one stop it just charges to lets say 70 and at another one to 95 depending on availability, route etc.
Sticking to the set % which really is for battery health when leaving the car at this percentage for longer doesn't make sense.
Looks like the route logic is doing the following:
1. Find the farthest charger you can make within a certain buffer.
2. Charge to your DC limit. This isn’t great for route efficiency…
3. Find the next charger within the new range.
4. Repeat.
I saw the charging stop mid-route update in action today. Was on my way home from a long trip and churning through battery going uphill when it told me I might not make it home and it could add a charging stop if I wanted.
I knew I’d be fine to make it home without since I was coming up on a downhill section, but it was cool to see nonetheless.
I think BMW uses topology also in routing so it should be possible to add thing like this for hyundai too.
Thanks, I'm going to download the update now! Seeing the estimated arrival SOC is much improved.
I'm glad to see the route planning updates. I secretly hope there are bug fixes, etc.
I am happy with the new features added with this update…. 👍
I just had to do an emergency drive from Atlanta to NJ, and used the new route planner. It was overall great! The only issue I experienced was exactly what you said - it is too conservative when looking at lower battery percentages. But I was so pleased to simply allow the car to make the recommendations!
Did you skip any of it's suggested stops knowing you could make it to one further down the road? If you did, how did it react? It didn't tell you to turn around did it?
@@TheIoniqGuy I skipped one between Statesville NC and Fincastle VA. The thing wanted me to stop at a Circle K for a fill up between the EA stations. I made it to Fincastle with less than 10%, which was fine but slightly sweaty palms at 12:30am after driving for 7-8 hours.
And I manually reprogrammed the system to take me to Fincastle VA instead of driving past the Circle K to see what would happen, so I can't say how the system would have reacted.
@@CallMeIvan516 but you can set the percentage limits right? So if its not enough or to much you could finetune it in the settings.
Can’t wait to get it in Europe. This winter I’m going on a 700 mile trip (Netherlands-Austria) and return a week later. Planning on using the navigation on my Kia
I get my car Monday (UK), but I plan on using the inbuilt satnav as much as possible for the HUD directions. so this update looks great.
Outstanding update, super ecstatic about it. Just what I needed to drive a long distance.
Installing it today. Looks like they addressed a lot. I'm glad they also adjusted the sound volume as well.
Yeah, I can't wait to get this in Europe, had to go up to 65 on volume yesterday before I could hear my podcast... it's just a strange way to do it.
I would like to see you take that trip in your car and update us on how accurate each leg of it is in terms of arrival percentage, charge time/rate, etc. And show us another route in Canada because I'm in Canada and things are not as rosy here as it is for you in the land of DC chargers. You have it really nice where you live.
I'm in Canada, Ontario and I'm going to be taking a trip in the next couple months to New Brunswick. I'll give it a try and see how accurate it is.
I'd give it a shot going from Niagara to Thunder Bay next week, but the state of PetroCanada's charging network makes it a no go. I'll be driving a Model Y instead.
Yah - I’ve had my car charge over 200kw - ONCE - in almost 2 yrs of ownership in Canada. It really is bad. But on a road trip to US soon - hoping to actually get some decent charging speeds - IF - EA will cooperate 😂
Thanks for the demo. I look forward to trying the new route planner.
Definitely would like to know if it will guide you down to 10% SOC (agree we need to be able to select that low SOC). If you skip the 30% SOC charger it planned what do you need to do to continue to the final destination? Can you delete the 30% charge stop? Would it automatically add in another charging stop if you couldn’t make it to the second charger it had pre-planned after passing the 30% SOC stop? Is it faster to reload the route once past that 30%SOC stop? Looks like it has potential but I’m with you. I can charge 0% to 82% in 22 minutes but anything over that appears to be programmed to ramp down after a minute or two pause. I’d like to see that SOC limit scale set by 5% increments to use those last 3% to cabin condition and cool the system. 13:18
I plugged in my future route just to play with it a little after install - one stop had me arriving at 15% - so it can go to at least that.
Looks good...we are leaving on a 14,000km road trip next Saturday. I will load the update in our I5 before we leave and we'll see how it works!
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Mike 🇨🇦
Have an awesome trip!
I'll leave comment here to see your update.
Thanks...just did the update and worked slick as a whistle! Had to find a USB stick big enough to load the data (64GB).
The new nav software does indeed provide a lot more information and data. We'll see how it works once we load destinations into it!
Mike 🇨🇦
Oh good - this is coming at the perfect time before I head on long trip soon. Hoping it is a much smoother experience than last year with the preconditioning and this. I’ll report back.
Well - it worked fairly well. On my very first day though it wasn’t working at all. Took me a minute to realize the whole system was broken. Only day I had to use ABRP - still the battery preconditioning helped with plugging in the charging stops.
Day 2/3 just used the on board navigation- I did modify once as I was stuck charging at a traffic jammed and 2 broken - 1 derated and one fully functioning stop - left as soon as I could get to next stop to free charger and also didn’t want to be there charging slowly. Didn’t need preconditioning as I was in warm CA by that time. Used a lot of stops that I remember from last year with ABRP - so went smoothly.
Used again just on board all the way back. Preconditioning was clutch once I hit N. CA at night. Again similar stations as with ABRP last year - though first stop the side info window with the waypoint charging info was different from the directions which led me to a closer station with fairly high charge - didn’t realize without my coffee until later. I did go against its recommendation for a further charger - had to be a little conservative with speed as it was cold and needed preconditioning. I wasn’t sure if it would stop preconditioning under 20% or just needed to get it started by 20%. It did indeed stop preconditioning at 19% about 10 minutes out so my battery was slightly cold on arrival but nothing near like it was last year.
All in all worked pretty well. Does sometimes get a bit wonky. On last stretch home had more than plenty to get home but it kept vacillating between wanting me to charge and being like nah it’s fine.
EA while still needing to improve a lot was definitely doing better than last year.
I think Hyundai could certainly tweak it more - especially not stopping preconditioning under 20%. But good B - attempt IMO.
I hit max charge twice on this trip which still has a lot to improve on. That was mostly EA issues. But prior to this trip since Feb of 2022 I have achieved max charge exactly once. If you think EA is bad - definitely don’t come to Canada. Oh vey! 🤦♀️
Nice! Good presentation! I'm waiting for this update in Europa. I think, it will come in 4-5 weeks here in Europe.
i'm waiting too. checking daily to see if it's ready lol.
Looks like a good update indeed!
Hopefully the EV6 update is out soon!
Didn’t know it wasn’t released with every other Kia. Strange
@@TheIoniqGuy yeah it's weird
Great video and great info. I'm going to do this update today while I clean my car out from a camping trip! We love the v2l feature to run everything. I would love to use the new route planning on the next road trip. Hopefully the audio quality is a little better with this one.
S. o I contacted the map update group used by Hyundai and there is a known issue. Some people are having success others are not. There are some files that are wrong that are being down loaded, which then prevent it from uploading correctly so nothing you can do about it they’re working on a fix.
Thanks, They did get back to me with the same result. They are working on a fix.
Happy to see updates from Hyundai. No issues to complain about, picked up my 2023 IONIQ 5 Limited 8/27 - just hit 4,000 miles. So far - great experience.
the nav/route planning stuff doesn't really apply to me, but the #1 feature i'd like added in the future is an easier way to start battery pre-conditioning. it's such a pain to HAVE to use the built-in nav to trigger it. hopefully they'll figure something out for that functionality in the future!
I agree, they make it overly difficult to need to goto the nav then find a charging station and create a route to go there. Much easier (and safer) to just have 1 click to turn on pre conditioning when you know you will be charging soon. But they still haven't got pre conditioning to work on mine, it's been updated and they said battery conditioning was verified but there is no option to enable it, it only has Winter Mode. No battery conditioning mode or option.
agreed, no reason why it can't just be a shortcut button like in other cars. many brands just needlessly complicate things like this.
I'm surprised the trip planner is always charging up to a specified state of charge. It makes no sense to charge more than necessary to arrive at the next stop with a suitable safety margin. Sure, people can debate the best safety margin, but I'd expect it to pick something conservative like 15 or 20% and go with it. That said, at least it's doing trip planning and battery preconditioning. Charging speed is on point. Gotta give Hyundai credit for that!
Man it is so difficult to find this kind of information directly from Hyundai or the dealers. Thank you for your channel.
I might be in the minority but I do use the sound of nature feature regularly. It’s basically like white noise in the car. It’s got a calming effect on me
Glad to hear someone uses it. I sure don't understand why Hyundai updates it every time.
@@michaelcottenden3216 It’s just a bunch of audio files. Low hanging fruit, not hard to update. Different team does those, obviously. They’re the same worldwide too, no region-specific issues in these.
@@fleecystheking i'm hoping they add fake engine noise next like the Ioniq 6 has. again, wouldn't be hard to implement in an update and some people really don't like a purely silent car. my kids get carsick with no engine noise. (i know a lot of people hate fake engine noise, but it can always be turned off) the "iconic sounds" engine noises in the BMW i4 sound fantastic imo.
I would also love for them to add the personalized drive mode you can create in the Ioniq 6. I really enjoyed that feature as I would love to have the heavier steering from sport mode but in normal or eco mode.
I just wish they wouldn;t add music over them... ruins the sounds of nature when they do that.
Looks like a BIG improvement!
I agree that using a charger from 40 to 80 doesn't make much sense. However, the low limit that seems to be 15% is consistent with the manual which says that you should immediately charge when your car battery is discharged to 15%. There is a reason in the chemistry behind that, pretty the same that makes you charge to 80% instead of 100%.
Over-the-air updating would be so much easier. Hopefully, they do that eventually to make the whole process a lot more user friendly.
They will come OTA it just takes a while before they actually show up
The payment function is supposed to work with plug and charge eventually I think
I did a long trip, around 3000 miles through Europe, with the earlier version, without the percentage display. It was exactly the same. It calculated the percentage in the background without showing you. Since everybody was wailing for that for some reason, they added it. Should have been easy enough to do, too. However, I don't know if they alteady included weather and topographic information in their calculation. It's obvious they want you to go to a charger between 15 and 25%, because they don't precondition the battery below 20%. It doesn't matter that much, because a) the car will hold the peak longer if you plug in earlyer, so you don't really loose time, and b) if you know you can get to a charger further down the road, you can simply keep driving and the route planner will adjust it's routing accordingly.
"Hyundai seem all in on providing sounds of nature". I don't know why this made me laugh so much.
It was pretty funny!
I like the changes. I hope the dealership will install it while my I-5 remains in the shop for the ICCU problem that happened a nine days ago.
The dealerships won’t install these updates. People have tried before
Its as simple as updating your phone
@@Dennis-kg1qi kind of, except you have to wait weeks for the update if you want it OTA.
nice,,, they should show chargers for the entire route ,,, not just 3 ,, i think they have charging above 20% as i read somewhere that the 12 v battery does not get charged below 20 % and if you go down to 4, 5 % etc you could end up with a dead 12 v
I like the new route updates. I wish there was a way to route at the comfort of your home and send the route plans to the car on the day of the trip. Is this even possible?
The only thing I know is that you can send destinations from your phone maps to Bluelink and the car will receive it once you start it up and plan the route for you.
I downloaded and performed the update last night! Someone needs to test it out on a road trip and see how accurate the predictions are.
A couple people in the comments have used it and said it performed like it should. One person went from Georgia to New Jersey
Downloading the update now and will install asap! On the PA/I80 route, there's nothing there except for just the few EA stations listed. Same for along I76. Funding was approved for a bunch more stations which will make visiting family less nerve-wracking in the near future :)
I would like to see if I can still use the Waze display for its alerts even though the in-car routing is enabled. In an ideal world, i could still use Waze or ABPR for routing since I don't like how the in-car navigation shows directions. I have missed a lot of turns because of how confusing it is.
Pa is making no effort... but if you are on i76 the turnpile at ceryain "rest stops" you can actually find a blink 7kw/hr
Great job - some pretty cool updates.
Yes SOC info also disappeared from my 2023 I5 SEL sometime early this year after couple of month usage since 2023 Oct update. We need our Ioniq Guy to comment on this thing.
Mine still looks the same as the original update but once you set a destination you can click on the checkered flag with total distance at the bottom and you’ll see all your charging stops with the SOC at each one
In my humble opinion, it is looking like a good update. This is one of the beauties of over the air software updates. Are you still working on the Ioniq 6 video?
Yeah it’s gonna be probably another month or so before release though
ive had an I5 for 19 months (35000mi) .... still waiting for my first OTA ... but dowmloaded this update and its great
Somebody know when its coming to Europe ? Please 😢
i would like to know as well
They don’t tell us in advance. You just have to check. I looked at the past update for Kia and Europe was a few weeks behind.
Hyundai pay is for if you stop at an DC station that as an agreement with Hyundai... you will not need to use your credit card... it is the same as Tesla ... you Connect the cable... car talk with the Charger agree and load electricity and your car pay automatically.
Downloaded and now updating on my 23 HI5. Started at 1120. Let’s see how long it takes
Exactly 48 minutes for the update and then couple of extra minutes for restart and restore data. There was one warning that popped up during the update and now it disappeared. So I guess it is some random notification that happened. Route planner improvements are awesome
I like the update, but I agree that the option to lower the state of charge level for a charging stop would be a good feature to add.
That EVgo at the Holiday Inn in Sturbridge, Mass is a quality station. I wish it were closer to the Pike but it's been reliable and there's food/bathroom nearby at Panera.
I just used the new route planer for a road trip and it worked great.
Glad to hear that!
One thing I wish they would do with the routing software is to include the entire trip instead of just the first four stops. For instance, for me, in Houston, if I plan a trip to San Diego I would like to know what they have instore for me way beyond just the first four charging stops. So, I still have to do more pre-planning than what Tesla travelers have to do. Also, not much in the way of selecting other routes if you don't like the one Hyundai chooses for you. I guess you just starting driving the route you want and see how the route planner recalculates for you. And hope for the best.
It’s sad that they aren’t going to update the system to get equal to the new Kona. With that said no Netflix, no Amazon prime and no sentry mode within the ioniq 5s, maybe the 2025 models.
yeah, cheaper car and more features. bit annoying. Wireless carplay/android auto on the Kona too.
Good update, very helpful video!
They forgot a feature in the NAV to tell you how many freebies are hogging the chargers going to 100% because the manufacturer did the bad thing of offering 3yrs of free charging something Tom Moloughney has a entire rant video about and I totally agree with. Until there is multiple providers with multiple sites with many many chargers per site all highly reliable but even then I would rather them only offer a limited amount of free charging(eg: 100kWh) or discounted charging but not free for 3yrs.
I agree completely with both you and Tom. I'd be more on board with the promotion if it were a fixed amount of kWh like how Kia has done it with the EV6. I believe they get 1000 kWh which could last someone a long time if they're saving it for the occassional road trip but unlimited is out of hand.
Great update. Agree on the arriving at better state of charge, but have they fixed the preconditioning so it would work below 20%? Also I’m still getting the red coil not a snowflake for my prewarming…
Thank you, very interesting and explained quite good. I think it will take a litte bit having it available in Germany. I will download and install it after, because the new route options of the previous and coming Updates are overdue.
Totally agree on your thoughts about the Navi update. I was waiting for this one ever since getting the car (1,5y). Hopefully now I can do without the standard backup ABRP & Maps. And like you, I like to drive it below 10% before rolling in for some juice. So lets hope in a next update they build in a option/rule to force the planner to go beyond. All the other changes are just gimmicks to me, meaningless. Thx you for this clear and informed movie 🍿
I added my payment info through the my hyundai app on my phone and now I can use hyundai pay in the car.
The navigation is greatly improved, but I’m still not getting real time updates for some reason
Thank you for all of the videos! Downloading my update now.
Hey there! Big fan of your channel! Thanks for all the great information. I got my 2023 Ioniq 5 SEL about 6 months ago and I absolutely love it. I currently live in Salt Lake City and have made several driving trips to California. I was excited to see this post of yours with the latest OTA Navigation Update. I promptly downloaded the update and it is now installed in my car. So far, I like it.
I like the Navigation update. I think it will help when planning road trips. In fact, I'm driving to CA again this week and will use the new updated system. Fingers crossed that it will work effectively. The other feature I like is the system volume. Like you, and perhaps many others, I found that I had to crank up the volume in order to hear music playing. Now that they have re-calibrated the sound, volume is so much better. I'm happy about that. The new Nature Sounds seem to be nice, too. Haven't tried anything else in regards to the update yet, but wanted to let you know and thank you for info about this one. Keep up the good work.
P.S. I recently bought from you a magnet and the charging light cover. Love them. Thanks!
We also live in SLC. We have driven several times to Las Vegas, and LA. We have an idea we're we need to charge now, so I assume you do too so it will be interesting if it matches your expectations. Be awesome if you can post your update here.
@@CraigMatsuura I certainly will!
Thanks for the video to prompt me to download the update. Also have an upcoming trip from Indy to St Louis so excited to put it to use.
Thanks for covering this. It looks like a pretty substantial upgrade.
Hey Corbin, just updated (i was the one who made the reddit post about the new route planning a couple days ago, if you saw it) but my charger availability doesnt work in the car. It says i need to activate bluelink, but it is... And same with Hyundai Pay (which i think is a pretty neat feature) do i actually have to call them, or whats the deal with this?
I think this is awesome, especially the arrival battery %, % leaving and state of charge with time, like a Tesla, way to go Hyundai!
Nav works ok, bc the stations don't work properly. Still have to go to plug share to look at the actual reports and not what EA says on the app.
I’m excited to try the new nav updates. Only 1 1/2 months into my HI5 and haven’t made any longer trips yet, so I can’t wait to try.
Did they fix the bad Bluetooth handsfree audio quality from iPhones? The sound in the speaker has been good, but the microphone had no good audio quality since the summer 2023 update.
Updated my 2023 Niro EV but looks like the route planning does not show the SoC or how long to charge for it will only plan the charging stops like before 😥
Personnaly I would like to see the following updates.
1. allow you to have the option to have your rear camera on when driving. Takes the place of having no rear window wiper.
2. allow bluetooth to operate Apple Carplay without having to plug it in.
regarding no.1 you can't do that? I can do that in Europe. I have the rear camera on constantly. it's a great feature. you can also have the top down view on while driving which is ... pointless but a great gimmick. looks like you are driving in GTA1,
No we can’t do that in the US. That sucks! Unless I’m just not knowing how to do it.
I am currently reinstalling Oct update to see if it makes any difference.
Perhaps they’re not running you down very low because they know that if it drops below 20% it won’t precondition the battery in cooler weather?
Good point
May be the pre- conditioning still stopp at 20%. That`s why you only have these choises. I have experinced this in winter in Norway (before the last update..)
Hey, TBH I found the in built Sat NAV even worse that ToMTom, Garmin and WAZE just so much better.
I really appreciate your channel!!
It's a low bar, but this seems like the best update so far
Great update imo. Thanks for the heads up!
Excellent video. Thanks for the information. I am updating my EV6 and I am curious to see if the same changes were made, I would think so.
Fyi i found on my ioniq 6 if you hit the car on the battery display it brings you to that secondary page without going through all the different menus.
The Canadian version only indicates the navigation update. I was looking forward to the audio update too but will be OK with the changes to the navigation software.
I find the Hyundai map unusable because it doesn’t identify cross streets far enough ahead of time. Also fonts for streets are too small so hard to read while driving. I end up using Apple maps or Google maps.
I still wish they would uncouple the battery preconditioning from using internal maps
From what I can tell Hyundai botched the update either for MY23 or possibly for limited trim? I've double checked that I downloaded and installed the correct update. There is a separate one for MY23 and MY22. Basically the only 2 options. However I and others have completely different results. I'm willing to bet that those of you that don't have the tow info, hyundai pay is not erroring out and have issues with charging station info in split screen and in general are either on a 23 or a limited for either year. I'm betting all '23s will be like mine and the '22s will be like Corbins? Hopefully this all gets sorted out with a new update. Maybe they will pull it and re-post like thy did with the April/May update. Or maybe it will get sorted OTA? I only downloaded for the volume adjustment, but rethinking now I don't like either way it was. A middle of the road fix like 20=old 35-40 rather than 10. That would be more inline with other cars and head units I've had in the past. However not may of those go all the way to 75 or whatever the top is. For fear of blowing another woofer I'm not pushing it that far. I blew a Rockford Fosgate woofer in a 2-way. I ended up going back to stock since the aftermarket speakers and woofer blow made the sound system and then entire car infotainment go completely nutso. The system does have a ton of power and I don't get how the stock speakers survive the volumes and tone control most people throw at it. Unlike anything I have experienced before. Not planning any long road trips esp. with Winter setting in soon so most of the updates are a yawn for me.
I have a 2023 Kia Soul EV here in Canada (not sold in the US). Our screens looks similar to what you’re showing on the Ioniq 5. The last update was supposed to add battery preconditioning for us but I still to this day cannot find it in my settings. All I see is “Winter Mode” but no mention of battery preconditioning and even if I turn on Winter Mode, my Kia Connect app still says “battery preconditioning is off.” Nobody, not even my Kia dealer, seems to be able to figure this out. I hope this newest update gives me that option because having just done a road trip for Canadian Thanksgiving, I couldn’t tell if my battery was getting warmed for faster charging. The weather was chilly & the charging sessions definitely seemed longer than usual. Anybody with a 2023 Kia Soul EV who’s reading this comment, would love your insight if you have any to share!
I like it because I am a nerd. lol. I'm new to EV ownership and I recall getting those updates and it telling me my display would be disabled until it was done. Kinda freaked me out a bit since I had not had the car more than 2 days before the update. One thing I don't know about is Bluelink. If I need it and how to get it. My car is a 2023 SEL trim and I am not the original owner. I got it at 1100 miles which in my opinion is still new. How can I register as its owner now? Anyway, thanks for the video. All the best.
64 GB microSD in an SD adapter, failed to recognize. Guess I'll try again tomorrow.
10:48 I think Tesla tells you to charge from 42% to 74% at this stop, instead of the maximum. And I have a huntch and I'll watch the rest of the video for the reason.
11:30
Edit: I think it's a bug or not refreshed to show non EA ones?
In Canada, we didn't get any free charging. Or a mug. :-(
The updates are pretty cool. Can’t wait to get the update. Does the battery percentage decline or increase as you drive?
Argh. I did the update. Everything works EXCEPT showing the charging station status in split screen. It says to activate bluelink. But it is activated.
Very helpful, as usual. Is it possible to have the dealer install the update? MANY people will find the USB method beyond their ability.
The dealerships pretty much always refuse to install navigation updates. Those folks will likely just have to wait for the over the air update to arrive
19 months, 35000 miles amd never an OTA... is there a trick?@@TheIoniqGuy
Is there any way of removing sounds of nature? Inadvertently I touched one when I first got my Kia, now every time I turn on I get these idiotic noises. I’ve turned the volume down, but it still drives me nuts.
There isn’t. Are you talking about the chime when you enter and turn the car on or the actual sounds of nature in the sound system?
they don;t turn on with the car though, :/ unless that's a Kia only thing.
I was never successful completing the May update using a USB and never saw an OTA update either. This navigation update seems worth giving the manual process another try.
Good luck!
I think this time they fixed most of the issues for the route planning. Further tweaks will make it better. But now, I think it is at least usable. One thing I would like to see is the range bubble around each charger along the route so that we can skip a charger or two
That’s a great idea. @@rijoshj
It took many attempts but I did finally get this update to install. I never did figure out why the previous attempts failed. Multiple times the car said the files were incompatible, then twice it said the files were corrupted. I used the same thumb drive with the same files a third time and it worked. One huge improvement would be for Hyundai to quickly provide all of these navigation updates OTA. So far it still seems hit or miss when or even if OTA updates occur. Of course this is the first vehicle I've owned that is capable of updates of any kind.
I think Hyundai cannot open the OTA to all the customers as this may cause system hanging and servers getting clogged. It is just a guess that that is why only few people are getting OTAs now. Maybe there are other reasons too.@@COSolar6419
Corbin, how are you getting the satellite screen... it looks like the Google map.
I suspect the route planner is including extra stops in case chargers are down and you can likely skip them and have it adapt. Starting a charge at such a high SoC is likely to make charging slower though so it could be frustrating for sure.
Not seeing Hyundai Pay here in Canada on either of my Konas.
Great update, ty
Does it save the filters between uses?
I am waiting for them to update my kona electric, but in Europe I don't see a new update for the ioniq5 either, latest ist June 2023.
By the way, it triggered me a little that you never used the options button with the navigation.
I wish they hadn’t changed the volume calibration so much, what’s the point of having most of the volume range be deafeningly loud. It also makes it harder to fine tune the volume.
I agree 20=old 40 would be better than the new 10=35-40. I'd like a setting for db or sub db per click or maybe a couple-4 sensitivity option settings. I didn't like cranking it before but I could dial in the clicks very precisely.
I love the upgrade since old settings didn't have the fidelity.
@@ravishah49 I think you are mistaking volume with fidelity. It's a common misconception. No amount of software update is going to improve the speakers, amplifiers and source. Other than higher volume at lower control settings I haven't heard any improvement. I did notice that the sub is more active now at lower volumes. So maybe that is what you are hearing. They might have monkeyed with the eq curve also. I know many cars and systems have a loudness l type feature where bass, lower notes and treble is boosted at lower listening levels. That might have been defeated at the higher number settings before. It's too bad I never had the chance to get the spl meter and test discs out to see how flat or exaggerated the curve is in this car. I will now that it's been changed.
I am debating between the I5 and Mach e and my only gripe with the i5 is the lackluster software update or the software in general when compared to the mach e. This update did give me hope that Hyundai isn't just all hardware company.
Then again mach e lacks the hardware stuff that the I5 has so really you can't win both ways...
I absolutely hated the Mach e when I test drove it compared to this car. it felt very cramped, had truly horrific brakes and is much smaller in the trunk etc.
I found the software in general much better in the Ioniq 5 as well considering it has a lot more options (maybe it's because im in the UK)
is there any Radio update covered by TSB? my dealership mentioned this to me to solve the buggy CarPlay. Thank you!
Thanks for the info!
You bet!