This was almost groundbreaking tv when I watched it almost 45 years ago now. Today it seems more like a historical look at how penal servitude has changed. For better or worse will be subjective. Thanks to those involved, and for whoever was responsible for posting the series
@@pjg1569you see they had a pub right outside the prison walls and a lot of them would drink masses at lunch time and the drunk screws would come back and be awful to the inmates.
It's a disgrace that bloke was put inside for non payments of his rates, he's a working man doing his best and that's how he gets treated, and things are no better now.
Yea I agree... people should just be allowed to ignore all the required payments as "they're working men". We can all pick up the slack instead, and pay for their bins to be emptied, for the local authority. They can keep the extra money as "they're working men". Seriously man... people get locked up due to REPEATEDLY and CONTINUALLY ignoring requests to pay. They're given payment options, installment options etc. They still continue to not pay. Would you have the same attitude if someone on your train wasn't paying their ticket fee as they didn't have enough? What about if someone was stealing something from a shop because they're not well off? Maybe filling up the car and then driving away without paying? Would you let them all off because "they're working men"? We're all doing our best. We all mostly pay our way and it's people who don't that make it harder for everyone else.
@@sicr7373 In reality, it doesn't cost tax payers a penny to imprison anyone for any length of time. The truth being that the warrant raised by the court in order to authorise a persons imprisonment creates a very lucrative bond, of which the prisoner is used as collateral against such. We are all being grossly deceived & lied to by governments & mainstream media shills alike.
The police..." Walking on the moon...wishing my days away " 😅 The officer sitting at the front of the bar with glasses looks like Sean Penn in Carlitos way 😂😂😂
Anyone remember?.. Thatchers bloody Britain, 3day working week,Miners striking,Men like these turning to drink like my dad because they couldn't get work.Bad times....but i tell you what 2024 these days have an eery feeling just like those late 70s, everyone on crack and heroin,homeless ppl everywhere. I fear for the youngers. Ty.
The black lad looked like Vinny Gallagher and the amount of alcoholic screws back in the 70/80s was unbelievable they had a bar as you seen in the prison or built onto it and the priest good old father Proctor was there for decades the fella always 1st one to come and see you with a bible god bless him :)
i was doing a couple of weeks late 70s and got a visit but my nana worked on the counter for the wrvs i was really worried she would see me but thank fuck she wasn't there
Yea like the film of porridge 😅😅😅 when fletcher and godber were caught drunk in the prison officers bar after breaking back in to the nick after a jaunt outside 😊😅😅😅😅 Mr May was furious 😅😅😅
Can't help feeling a bit sad for Noel Proctor @11.58 he was an amazing chaplain and couldn't do enough for the lads and 99% of them respected him. It was through him that I became a Christian in 94
@rick182z You dont know if he tried to petition the guvnor or the church to investigate the abuse. You can see the corruption from the top down. I don't believe he was corrupt. His job as Chaplain was paid by the church to minister to inmates and staff. I get your point you're making, though, buddy
It was rife in Manchester in the 80s, men who worked all their lives to arrive in a thatcher government when they retired, no fault of their own! Just your same old grinding mill of injustice.
You'd be lucky to see a Christmas tree now lol ,it's amazing to see how much trouble warders went to ,decorate the place up so much unbelievable with all trimmings .
The Scottish guy was right the vicar is going round wishing them the best of x X mas spirit while the cameras are there every other day hes watches the beatings and ill treatment of men who shouldn't even be there at Xmas for fines of pennies they got away with murder no wonder the place was ripped to bits
Those two blokes at the beginning, giving their ages as 45 and 41. Mad how people looked so much older back then. They could both quite easily pass as 20 years older these days.
Prison time for non payment of fines is rare these days. The courts will issue an attachment of earnings and take it directly out of your wages or benefits. Always pay council tax and court fines, they get you in the end.
i havent paid council tax since 2014. there is nothing they can take from me as i only work part time and everything i have is rented. im not here to pay for the schools of other people, or to pay for council flattery projects and statues
@@buy.to.let.britainI don't blame u but I wouldn't say can't because if they decide to do so they will instruct your employer to deduct from your wages and they can't refuse it is always best to tell the truth that u wish to pay but u don't have the financial ability to pay if you say I won't pay tough then they can imprison u 4 refusal to pay I would love to see people with holding payment as a point of view a strike 2 get a fairer system but that would be a challenge to the status quo and would be clamped down upon
Your channel pops on my feed out of nowhere, me, ends up watching 8 hours of strangeways. I like the governor, seems a really decent man, very wise. But a bucket, no toilet, thats rough. But its nice to see the lack of F word back then. I was born in 1965 and i never swore once till i was 18, nowadays you see kids swearing at 7 or less. Its sad to see. People need God, and morals. Seems to be lost to a lot of people nowadays.
Yes, funny to think that. I’m the same age as you. Different world then, wasn’t it, pal? Loving this documentary series, had never heard of it until it popped up on my feed.
Better to be straight to the point. Glad he said died, rather than all the flowery passed away, gone to a better place rubbish. Have given numerous death messages in my career. No point in saying sorry because your not really. Can say "sorry for your loss," otherwise you could not cope.
Started my service as an officer at strangeways in 1975, it was an eye opener, I went on to serve 30 years, not all establishments were like this I’m glad to say
@@Alanhock75 what was it like? im 18 now and i’ve been to wetherby for 6 months, i’ve got another case in december might end up doing bird again i imagine strangeways would be an easier prison than forest bank ?
@ts11- hey i was at stangeways 50 years ago,it was a miserable place for staff and inmates, of course I’ve no idea what it’s like now, finished my service at Brixton , another miserable jail, but that was 20 years ago- I guess conditions have changed drastically since then
I controlled the pick n mix section also if the fishing tackle section didn’t pay their dues on time I had Tony the flask go around and sort out the manager,nothing went past me in that place infact for every Easter egg sold we got 5bob on every egg.We supplied the cafe with sausages if they didn’t take our sausages they were hit so hard they never never knew what hit them.
Notice the man says rates which is now council tax he went to prison for , obviously if government provided people with decent jobs and wages ,there wouldn't be people who couldn't pay bills .
i felt sorry for the man 40 days for council tax drop in his wages 3 day week then they bang him up he looked totaly out of place in prison the twats thats the uk for you all about the tax money
Guv the government who wipe your arse unless you’re a muzzy so there’s only so many jobs the councils or government can provide . You gotta sort it out yourself
its not up to the govt to provide you with a job, its up to you to make yourself worth something in the marketplace and/or create your own wealth through intelligence and initiative.
@@SwissCheese112 of course it's up to.the government way it is with average ,and poor working man your just thinking more ,your own little worlds alright fk everyone else mentality,
Sending anyone to prison for being poor is a disgrace, and makes no sense considering it costs a lot more to keep a prisoner than any fine. Meanwhile nonces get a slap on the wrist! Makes my blood boil.
That's exactly it. Poor people being impoverished even more. Poor guy who says he was 41 looks 61. Christ I'm 42 and look 20 years younger than him. This isn't justice. This is just slamming people who are struggling
One of those priests is father Noel Proctor, who was the prison Chaplin when i was in from April- November, 199O, for a crime i did not commit. Talk about rough justice. I told him i was innocent and he said he was sorry to hear it bla bla, which did not do me any good. But he listened and i felt he cared. Seemed like a decent guy. I was only in the jail a matter of a few weeks before the riot erupted and i was shipped off to another prison.
@@andypicken7848 well he was told by the co- accused in the said offence that it was actually my brother that had committed the offence with him, not me. But he said he could not stand up in court at my appeal and say this due to something something called " The seal of the confessional " . Apparently he was told at " confession " in the prison chapel by someone that I was innocent and it was actually my older brother who had committed the offence I was in for.
Obviously we don't put debtors in prison these days, but you can see why the UK was called the sick man of Europe back in the late 70s. The economy had tanked, so working week is cut, so the guy at 15:48 has less money to take home, so can't pay bills, therefore put away, which costs more to do than the actual fine! In another episode they showed the teachers being told to come in, and would be paid, to do nothing as they stopped the classes! We complain when things were nationalised they couldn't be run, so we should privatise everything. I think the problem is clearly that when nationalised, the decisions came from Whitehall, by people that no idea how to run a prison, or trains, energy etc. Now it's just private companies giving us a rubbish service, cut to make them as much profit as possible. Neither works, and something has to change in all these areas. I watched another YT video on HMP 5 wells, run by the classic "whoops, we've lost a prisoner" G4S. Total chaos, prisoners walking around with huge knives, prisoners getting there mates to apply for jobs there so to help with bringing in drugs, phones etc. Watching this channels strange ways, you can see staff have to do everything, haircuts, food service, sorting out intercell personalities, they could walk around without the need of alarms, body cams, etc. Its a mess now, we haven't progressed at all.
Some lucky people getting out Xmas Eve ,probably out early because of bank holiday cos they couldn't ,let you out late by law if your date ended Sunday ,had to be out Friday .
Hey pop pickers! The Police riding high in the charts with 'Walking On The Moon', released just a few weeks before. A few years later Sting himself should have been in Strangeways himself for crimes against music
@gedrooney9305 What, 'Walking on the Moon' or Sting? The Police were a decent group who left behind some not half bad pop tunes, 'Roxanne' and 'Su Lawley' being notable examples - great tunes, even with Sting's cod reggae vocals. Sting however, in terms of his personality and solo work can be summed up with one word: execrable.
The worst thing these days is if you are unfortunate to go ,in for prison for unpaid fines they used to be wrote off ,after doing sentence but not anymore it's still on you .
Surely that can't be right if that was the case people who refused to pay would do sentence after sentence mind you nothing would surprise me these days
@@Bluebear78I got mine quashed but that was in the 80s, they don't do it anymore you still have to pay them when you get out so some people are going to prison for fines then getting out and going straight back in 🍺 🍻 😜
I was 19 I had done 2 DCs Whattonon in Nottingham and campsfield house detention centre Kidlington Oxford 1974 and 1975. I didn't do borstal but first prison 81 i was 21 horfield Bristol as you can see what a change 😎👌🏴
It's amazing isn't it... Can't pay a fine we will give you a free room with breakfast, lunch and dinner for a week to punish you for having no money... Why give prison time for fines? Just makes these men more likely to become proper criminals and have no place in society, all over a fine...
Reverend Proctor was a legend he walked past me on the landing when I saw the dog collar I smirked juvenile delinquent I was but when he looked at me his face his eyes everything about him was heavy duty and I knew I was a little fish in a big pond and that he was a shark hunter he never said a word.
13:49 Why imprison someone who is unable to pay their bills and taxes because where they work the union forces its members to go on strike, which attributes to the employee being unable to afford to live according to what society expect someone to live like. its completely unfair, not only to that man that has ended up unnecessarily in prison, but also to the taxpayer.
All those blokes chucked in for non-payment of fines. What a joke. The taxpayer and society at large are worse off in many regards thanks to these short sighted policies - including financially worse off! Charles Dickens would recognise the 1970's legal system instantly.
Under Edward Heath, the corporations were set up to tax the nation, Corperations tax or rates or council tax or tax tax tax, with Her Majesty The Queen being head of the Corperations, this maybe over 40 years ago but the situation is the same for each subject.
My brother an me were in stransways in 1999 untill 2009 we both got 20 yr wreck after the roit they put in new toilts in the cells all the reses were gone there were big changes after the roit not much changed me an my brother was on D3 Double cell wasnt bad we got on eash others wick so we got a single on the same landing 10 yrs was a long time comeing from london after a few yrs we went 2 hmp wormwood scurds home sweet home.
35:20 and my heart breaks. Prisoner who has NFA learns his Dad has died. If prisoners nowadays had the same treatment then we wouldn’t have the sh*te we have nowadays
This was 1979 and it looks more like 1969. I was around those days and the prisoners and staff are at least 10 years behind looks wise; loads of hair, sideburns and moustache was well out in London, certainly for under 25s. Then again they are Northerners
This was almost groundbreaking tv when I watched it almost 45 years ago now. Today it seems more like a historical look at how penal servitude has changed.
For better or worse will be subjective. Thanks to those involved, and for whoever was responsible for posting the series
Did those prison officers go back to work .and did the behave
They looked and behaved drunk
So were the times, back then. In Ireland.. Pregnant women were prescribed a pint of Gunness a day. For the iron in it.
@@pjg1569you see they had a pub right outside the prison walls and a lot of them would drink masses at lunch time and the drunk screws would come back and be awful to the inmates.
@@Dogdayafternoon4325didn’t need drink to behave badly, it was the culture in the 70s and 80s
It's a disgrace that bloke was put inside for non payments of his rates, he's a working man doing his best and that's how he gets treated, and things are no better now.
Yea I agree... people should just be allowed to ignore all the required payments as "they're working men". We can all pick up the slack instead, and pay for their bins to be emptied, for the local authority. They can keep the extra money as "they're working men".
Seriously man... people get locked up due to REPEATEDLY and CONTINUALLY ignoring requests to pay. They're given payment options, installment options etc. They still continue to not pay.
Would you have the same attitude if someone on your train wasn't paying their ticket fee as they didn't have enough?
What about if someone was stealing something from a shop because they're not well off?
Maybe filling up the car and then driving away without paying?
Would you let them all off because "they're working men"? We're all doing our best. We all mostly pay our way and it's people who don't that make it harder for everyone else.
@@rodneytrotter5656 It cost the taxpayers more to lock him up than he owed!
I would have 2 disagree it was a lot easier to b imprisoned 4 petty crimes in those days
@@rodneytrotter5656there is a saying blood and a stone
@@sicr7373 In reality, it doesn't cost tax payers a penny to imprison anyone for any length of time. The truth being that the warrant raised by the court in order to authorise a persons imprisonment creates a very lucrative bond, of which the prisoner is used as collateral against such. We are all being grossly deceived & lied to by governments & mainstream media shills alike.
Seem quite sad to see non criminals in prison..
The police..." Walking on the moon...wishing my days away " 😅
The officer sitting at the front of the bar with glasses looks like Sean Penn in Carlitos way 😂😂😂
Nobody been on moon! Earth is flat
😂😂😂😂@@CharlesStevenage
ffs!!!!! thats him!!!!!! sean penn n the perm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahaahahahahaah
Sean in the "Penn"
@@CharlesStevenagebe carefull you dont fall off then nextime you go for a walk😊
Brilliant stuff 😍 Binged watched this entire series in one night, thanks for the upload.. Back when documentrys were raw and hard hitting xxx
10:13 "We got some stamps here for the Save the Children Fund" ... Good old fashioned lags..
Anyone remember?.. Thatchers bloody Britain, 3day working week,Miners striking,Men like these turning to drink like my dad because they couldn't get work.Bad times....but i tell you what 2024 these days have an eery feeling just like those late 70s, everyone on crack and heroin,homeless ppl everywhere. I fear for the youngers. Ty.
Add tens of millions of immigrants into the mix (which we didn't have back in 1979) and you have a proper powder keg on your hands! 🫣🤒
Even the toe rags wore sports jackets - the world has changed
The black lad looked like Vinny Gallagher and the amount of alcoholic screws back in the 70/80s was unbelievable they had a bar as you seen in the prison or built onto it and the priest good old father Proctor was there for decades the fella always 1st one to come and see you with a bible god bless him :)
i was doing a couple of weeks late 70s and got a visit but my nana worked on the counter for the wrvs i was really worried she would see me but thank fuck she wasn't there
Yea like the film of porridge 😅😅😅 when fletcher and godber were caught drunk in the prison officers bar after breaking back in to the nick after a jaunt outside 😊😅😅😅😅 Mr May was furious 😅😅😅
I was thinking that was Vinny Gallagher I know the twins better all passed now sadly
Can't help feeling a bit sad for Noel Proctor @11.58 he was an amazing chaplain and couldn't do enough for the lads and 99% of them respected him. It was through him that I became a Christian in 94
I felt bad too, seemed like s lovely man. I miss those times. I became a believer in '77 on Saint Patrick's day. Jesus bless and protect you
He turned a blind eye to the abuse of the prisoners
@rick182z You dont know if he tried to petition the guvnor or the church to investigate the abuse. You can see the corruption from the top down. I don't believe he was corrupt. His job as Chaplain was paid by the church to minister to inmates and staff. I get your point you're making, though, buddy
It was rife in Manchester in the 80s, men who worked all their lives to arrive in a thatcher government when they retired, no fault of their own! Just your same old grinding mill of injustice.
I was quite impressed by the two men who made the effort n their cells with the cards and giving the stamps to charity.
Yes it was so sweet just young lads really god love them all ..
That old man with just his bus fair home nearly made me cry.
😢
You'd be lucky to see a Christmas tree now lol ,it's amazing to see how much trouble warders went to ,decorate the place up so much unbelievable with all trimmings .
It would offend the minority religions that we need to protect as they are our future 🤮
you can't polish a turd
Cant do that now though cus of the smilsum
@@user-ts9fy6se6u what a fkn joke ,it's our country not the Muslims .
F the brotherhood,I'd fight for my Christmas tree!👊
The Scottish guy was right the vicar is going round wishing them the best of x X mas spirit while the cameras are there every other day hes watches the beatings and ill treatment of men who shouldn't even be there at Xmas for fines of pennies they got away with murder no wonder the place was ripped to bits
Yes I loved that bit fair fxckin play to him!
This is the way prison should be there andy pandy prison to day.
Brendan Rogers football manager
@@cityboy9301He slaps em about does he
🏴 👍🏻 🇬🇧
Those two blokes at the beginning, giving their ages as 45 and 41. Mad how people looked so much older back then. They could both quite easily pass as 20 years older these days.
Prison time for non payment of fines is rare these days. The courts will issue an attachment of earnings and take it directly out of your wages or benefits. Always pay council tax and court fines, they get you in the end.
i havent paid council tax since 2014. there is nothing they can take from me as i only work part time and everything i have is rented. im not here to pay for the schools of other people, or to pay for council flattery projects and statues
@@buy.to.let.britain Ditto I've not paid it since 2002 Fuck The Government.
im not paying for such trash and corruption.@@MisterSands
@@buy.to.let.britainI don't blame u but I wouldn't say can't because if they decide to do so they will instruct your employer to deduct from your wages and they can't refuse it is always best to tell the truth that u wish to pay but u don't have the financial ability to pay if you say I won't pay tough then they can imprison u 4 refusal to pay I would love to see people with holding payment as a point of view a strike 2 get a fairer system but that would be a challenge to the status quo and would be clamped down upon
The first few times I was in prison I got all my fines quashed, I thought they were taking the piss when they told me, they don't do it now though 😜
That 45-year-old weaver with 2p on him 😁😁😁
What a miserable existence, for the delinquent villains featured ...and that was just the staff!
Your channel pops on my feed out of nowhere, me, ends up watching 8 hours of strangeways. I like the governor, seems a really decent man, very wise. But a bucket, no toilet, thats rough. But its nice to see the lack of F word back then. I was born in 1965 and i never swore once till i was 18, nowadays you see kids swearing at 7 or less. Its sad to see. People need God, and morals. Seems to be lost to a lot of people nowadays.
Nearly all these people would of passed on hard to believe I was ten in 1979
Joel,,, i was 7 then, im 52 this year, time flies.
Exactly my thoughts! I was born in 82 myself
@@mauriceosullivan6832 I know mate unreal many more years to come
@@joelmonkley6177 Hopefully Joel mate.
Yes, funny to think that. I’m the same age as you. Different world then, wasn’t it, pal? Loving this documentary series, had never heard of it until it popped up on my feed.
That prison chaplain is terrible, the way he told that guy his father had died without even asking him if he knew he was ill etc, awful.
Better to be straight to the point. Glad he said died, rather than all the flowery passed away, gone to a better place rubbish. Have given numerous death messages in my career. No point in saying sorry because your not really. Can say "sorry for your loss," otherwise you could not cope.
19:18 "No court case or nothing" 🤣🤣🤣 Already been to court , found guilty , fined but did not pay it 🤣🤣🤣
White custard! I wonder what man made ingredients went into that...
Milk cornflour and sugar
And there’s me thinking ‘wow they got brandy sauce what a treat!’ 😂
@@rachelb.1160 you can add brandy or sherry to that mix. We used to do it in the 70s to put on Christmas pudding.
Started my service as an officer at strangeways in 1975, it was an eye opener, I went on to serve 30 years, not all establishments were like this I’m glad to say
was u there when the riots happened
@@ts11- yes for 3 days
@@Alanhock75 what was it like? im 18 now and i’ve been to wetherby for 6 months, i’ve got another case in december might end up doing bird again i imagine strangeways would be an easier prison than forest bank ?
@ts11- hey i was at stangeways 50 years ago,it was a miserable place for staff and inmates, of course I’ve no idea what it’s like now, finished my service at Brixton , another miserable jail, but that was 20 years ago- I guess conditions have changed drastically since then
@@ts11- they moved him from wymott for 3 days
I was actually in strangeways at this time. I was allocated to Everthorpe Borstal. Brings back memories 😮
stay out of trouble lad.
You could get 30 days inside for robbing a liquorice allsort from woolies in them days.
I used to nick allsorts from Woolies when I was a kid and it wasn't liquorice , and didn't get caught .
@@Ineedanewbrainwashagent1. oh fckn wise guy aye,I owned woolies lol
@@Andy-x3e4z🤣🤣👍
I bet you to were dressed in woolies😂
I controlled the pick n mix section also if the fishing tackle section didn’t pay their dues on time I had Tony the flask go around and sort out the manager,nothing went past me in that place infact for every Easter egg sold we got 5bob on every egg.We supplied the cafe with sausages if they didn’t take our sausages they were hit so hard they never never knew what hit them.
Notice the man says rates which is now council tax he went to prison for , obviously if government provided people with decent jobs and wages ,there wouldn't be people who couldn't pay bills .
i felt sorry for the man 40 days for council tax drop in his wages 3 day week then they bang him up he looked totaly out of place in prison the twats thats the uk for you all about the tax money
Guv the government who wipe your arse unless you’re a muzzy so there’s only so many jobs the councils or government can provide .
You gotta sort it out yourself
its not up to the govt to provide you with a job, its up to you to make yourself worth something in the marketplace and/or create your own wealth through intelligence and initiative.
@@SwissCheese112 of course it's up to.the government way it is with average ,and poor working man your just thinking more ,your own little worlds alright fk everyone else mentality,
Sending anyone to prison for being poor is a disgrace, and makes no sense considering it costs a lot more to keep a prisoner than any fine. Meanwhile nonces get a slap on the wrist! Makes my blood boil.
Brilliant, cheers for the upload 👍
45 and 41 they look about 60
Yes poor souls
The drink
I was thinking the same thing
Probably had terrible starts in life
When that bloke said 41 I nearly spat my tea out… younger than me ffs!
The guy singing at @33:35 looks like Sean Penn’s character Kleinfeld, in Carlitos way! Adios councillor.
😂🤣 He sure does
The lawyer in GTA Vice City was based on him too, hahaha he's a fkin double!
Great shout I laughed out loud when I seen him after reading your comment 😅😅😅😅
He looks a typical mouthy look at me I’m funny prick.
The poor are easily controlled while the rich can do what they want
100% Nailed it.
patrickjosephhenderson2222
Dont be taken in by Daily Mail type propagander.
They want you to be bitter and twisted rather than think for yourself
That's exactly it. Poor people being impoverished even more. Poor guy who says he was 41 looks 61. Christ I'm 42 and look 20 years younger than him.
This isn't justice. This is just slamming people who are struggling
Guard - "did you bring any cash in with you ?"
Prisoner "2p"
I would have just said "no"
He's 45 lol.
2 pence is 2 pence😂
@@darrenhems2291this is nuts 😂 in a bad way thank fuck I’m a good boy 😃
i remember bricklayers earning 40 quid a week and that was considered good@@user-ts9fy6se6u
in 1979 a bag of walkers crisps was 5p@@user-ts9fy6se6u
One of those priests is father Noel Proctor, who was the prison Chaplin when i was in from April- November, 199O, for a crime i did not commit. Talk about rough justice. I told him i was innocent and he said he was sorry to hear it bla bla, which did not do me any good. But he listened and i felt he cared. Seemed like a decent guy. I was only in the jail a matter of a few weeks before the riot erupted and i was shipped off to another prison.
johnbleakley4125
Thanks for the information John but what did you expect from the Priest, you must know that had no power to help you in a legal sence
@@andypicken7848 well he was told by the co- accused in the said offence that it was actually my brother that had committed the offence with him, not me. But he said he could not stand up in court at my appeal and say this due to something something called " The seal of the confessional " . Apparently he was told at " confession " in the prison chapel by someone that I was innocent and it was actually my older brother who had committed the offence I was in for.
Was the menu halal then?
I'm vegan, imagen saying that back then, and buy the way I identify as a female.
@@thomasblackwell1410 they’d have smashed you on the floor everyday
Halal no
going to prison for not paying rates ? Good God !!
5:38 Did he say he was 41?
Yes I'm 36 and started to feel feckin fantastic about meself when he said that, he looks oks 20yrs older than me poor man😅
Must have had a heavy paper round
Same age as me, I was kinda hoping I misheard him
Wow, left me thinking about where i was on those days back in the 70s. Nearly 9 years old, at home looking forward to Christmas
Obviously we don't put debtors in prison these days, but you can see why the UK was called the sick man of Europe back in the late 70s. The economy had tanked, so working week is cut, so the guy at 15:48 has less money to take home, so can't pay bills, therefore put away, which costs more to do than the actual fine! In another episode they showed the teachers being told to come in, and would be paid, to do nothing as they stopped the classes! We complain when things were nationalised they couldn't be run, so we should privatise everything. I think the problem is clearly that when nationalised, the decisions came from Whitehall, by people that no idea how to run a prison, or trains, energy etc. Now it's just private companies giving us a rubbish service, cut to make them as much profit as possible. Neither works, and something has to change in all these areas. I watched another YT video on HMP 5 wells, run by the classic "whoops, we've lost a prisoner" G4S. Total chaos, prisoners walking around with huge knives, prisoners getting there mates to apply for jobs there so to help with bringing in drugs, phones etc.
Watching this channels strange ways, you can see staff have to do everything, haircuts, food service, sorting out intercell personalities, they could walk around without the need of alarms, body cams, etc. Its a mess now, we haven't progressed at all.
The bloke dispensing the cash & issuing the receipts reminds me of "Figgis" - James Bolam!!
Fines ffs . The guy who did time for rates should have billed the union in my opinion “ unions ruined Britain’s industry “
I agree it's not a crime to be poor.
3 new inmates like a prog rock band .
I was 12 when this series was shown and I never forgot this episode. It looked so grim.
Someone else said this but god bless the salvation army they were working hard here to give some form of xmas cheer to the prisoners!!!
prison is depressing enough without that lot turning up with their trumpets
And , of course , The Police on the radio in the background .
12 days all that sht they went through just for 50 quid fine ,crazy fkn leaders 😂
The Christmas dinner from Hell
The Christmas dinner in Hell .
Some lucky people getting out Xmas Eve ,probably out early because of bank holiday cos they couldn't ,let you out late by law if your date ended Sunday ,had to be out Friday .
Liver and onions is lovely with an oxo
Usually I would say everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but on this, no - you are simply wrong 😂
Prison liver a onions isn't lol
40 odd year old Jesus they look a good 20 yrs older
That’s alcohol for you
Only time the likes of us, will ever be in royal residential place.
Hey pop pickers! The Police riding high in the charts with 'Walking On The Moon', released just a few weeks before. A few years later Sting himself should have been in Strangeways himself for crimes against music
Underrated!
@gedrooney9305 What, 'Walking on the Moon' or Sting?
The Police were a decent group who left behind some not half bad pop tunes, 'Roxanne' and 'Su Lawley' being notable examples - great tunes, even with Sting's cod reggae vocals.
Sting however, in terms of his personality and solo work can be summed up with one word: execrable.
@@gargantuk Your comment was underrated 👍
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It got to no1 for a few weeks.
I know the Governor was a WW2 hero. WW2 he probably thought the food was better than he ever had!
That was a lot of them about
The governor served in the Korean War not WW2 and that I’m certain off
Think he was one of the 'Guinea Pigs'.. First plastic surgery?
@@Dogdayafternoon4325 He tastes the food every morning to make sure its decent - hes actually quite a good govenor
The first decent Govenor that prison had was Brendan o Friel
The worst thing these days is if you are unfortunate to go ,in for prison for unpaid fines they used to be wrote off ,after doing sentence but not anymore it's still on you .
Surely that can't be right if that was the case people who refused to pay would do sentence after sentence mind you nothing would surprise me these days
@@tech9auto223 I can assure you ,because I know people it's happened to ,that is the case for around 10 yrs now .
seriously? the government worse than the prisoners in my book
Not true I got my fines wrote off on my last sentence I told my lawyer about them and he got them wiped
@@Bluebear78I got mine quashed but that was in the 80s, they don't do it anymore you still have to pay them when you get out so some people are going to prison for fines then getting out and going straight back in 🍺 🍻 😜
The feller leading the singing in the bar is an absolute ringer for Sean Penn in Donnie Brasco
Notice how everyone in jail is poor? That's by design.
What a sad flecked up system, Britain.
Imagine to be an alcoholic in prison with no access to booze.... must be horrific
I was 19 I had done 2 DCs Whattonon in Nottingham and campsfield house detention centre Kidlington Oxford 1974 and 1975. I didn't do borstal but first prison 81 i was 21 horfield Bristol as you can see what a change 😎👌🏴
Where you from in Scotland?
@@doobydootoo I was born in an army quarter in Edinburgh 1960 I now live in the Highlands 50 miles north of Inverness 👌🏴
Nice to see godber there at 3.57
young Godber, blimey
The British judiciary has always been laughable in It's decision making.
My padmate in hmp leeds topped himself over non payment of council tax. Lad got 21 days and couldn't handle it
I got out on Christmas Eve after doing 18 month it may sound great to be out for Christmas day but it's not.
It good getting out any day from the juG ! U melt
@@Sawdust-f4p When you get out on Christmas eve let me know !!!! Until then keep your gums still.
It's amazing isn't it... Can't pay a fine we will give you a free room with breakfast, lunch and dinner for a week to punish you for having no money... Why give prison time for fines? Just makes these men more likely to become proper criminals and have no place in society, all over a fine...
You one of those "its a holiday camp" lot?
@-xirx- can you define what those sort of people are? I don't know what you mean?
What a waste of time sending that man to prison it cost more to keep him there that the debt was😂
Reverend Proctor was a legend he walked past me on the landing when I saw the dog collar I smirked juvenile delinquent I was but when he looked at me his face his eyes everything about him was heavy duty and I knew I was a little fish in a big pond and that he was a shark hunter he never said a word.
I don't understand what you mean
Take me back to the 80s. Simple times
They still have that floor buffer to this day
Got destroyed in the fire
We had to dip our biscuit thing in the cup at Church. Found out it was only Ribena !
The Christmas dinner didn't look very appetising.
13:49 Why imprison someone who is unable to pay their bills and taxes because where they work the union forces its members to go on strike, which attributes to the employee being unable to afford to live according to what society expect someone to live like. its completely unfair, not only to that man that has ended up unnecessarily in prison, but also to the taxpayer.
Nonsense.
Is ` O Come all Ye Faithfull ` the only carol they know?
i remember the old guy near the end catweazle from cheetham hill
Wow is he still alive
he kicked the bucket a long time ago i think@@danrobinson572
@@red84icj no I’m from America 🇺🇸
@@red84icj 👍
@@danrobinson572we’re about bro??
Xuck just saw my dad 😂
Pigs liver for dinner … no thanks !
lovely jubbly
Malcolm Price the street fighter for Merthyr Tydfil South Wales mite have been here,for fighting.
There was some wonderful Christian ministry back then.
That prison officer has a caring attitude,the way he was talking.
Mainly again our leaders with greed and nasty ways ,have mostly destroyed Xmas for most who if ,there working don't get that long off .
was up in there for 3 months in or around 1981 for buying a nicked motobike.... im 68..
That's mad....
All those blokes chucked in for non-payment of fines. What a joke. The taxpayer and society at large are worse off in many regards thanks to these short sighted policies - including financially worse off! Charles Dickens would recognise the 1970's legal system instantly.
How bad would it of been on the 2 of January when they took the decks down…..
Fancy telling him that his dad has died on camera
What happened to the guy whose house had burned down and his father had passed?
That Guy reminded me of Dylan in porridge😅
Under Edward Heath, the corporations were set up to tax the nation, Corperations tax or rates or council tax or tax tax tax, with Her Majesty The Queen being head of the Corperations, this maybe over 40 years ago but the situation is the same for each subject.
Strangeways, here we come!
If you got 7 days handed yourself in Thursday you would get out Friday morning.
My brother an me were in stransways in 1999 untill 2009 we both got 20 yr wreck after the roit they put in new toilts in the cells all the reses were gone there were big changes after the roit not much changed me an my brother was on D3 Double cell wasnt bad we got on eash others wick so we got a single on the same landing 10 yrs was a long time comeing from london after a few yrs we went 2 hmp wormwood scurds home sweet home.
What had sadly happened to the face of the spectacled senior staff member ?
Governor Norman Brown was injured fighting in WW2,if I remember correctly he was a tank commander 🇬🇧
@@davidmacdonald-bi1hysave in his pal it a fact
I was 8 when this was aired I'm sure it was om bbc2 watching it late with my big brothers it scared me at time lols
I might be going inside to be a prison officer 😂
Amazing uploads.
5:45 😮41!!!!!!!! Really?
I thought the same - I guess it was the time and people dressed more old fashioned then .
@@jeromealexandre4162I think alcohol helped
Dont pay rates..jailed utter garbage..cost more to keep him there.
35:20 and my heart breaks. Prisoner who has NFA learns his Dad has died. If prisoners nowadays had the same treatment then we wouldn’t have the sh*te we have nowadays
This was 1979 and it looks more like 1969. I was around those days and the prisoners and staff are at least 10 years behind looks wise; loads of hair, sideburns and moustache was well out in London, certainly for under 25s. Then again they are Northerners
3.40 Fulton Mackay.
A lot of the screws in there committed more crimes against men than the inmates
Just brutal
A more wholesome time to be alive. Turn 41 years of age but look 76.