So just listen to these fellas. Everyone of them very intelligent & all with only positive thought. I've never seen this documentary. I first became aware of the Special Unit while in jail myself in NI as a young man in the 1980s where I read both of Jimmy Boyles books A Sense of Freedom & Prison Diaries 👏. As to why they shut something so positive just shows the corruption of the fuckin clowns we call government ffs! Even in today's very different world this idea would still even now be ahead of its time. We were all misunderstood We are as one. Great video Big Stuff & great to hear your stories 👍 👏
Brilliant documentary , l can relate to what they are saying my first sentence was 1980 Glenochil then Barr then Saughtonthen frierton then lowmoss then Perth not big sentences but 2 of 18 month and 1 of 2 yes the rest were 6months to 9 months but glad to say been 23 years without jail , but thanks for sharing this video all the best 🫡👏👍
A Sense Of Freedom Jimmy Boyle’s book far better than the movie ..the violence he dished out and received was on a different level ..because of the Barlinnie special unit he rehabilitated and became very successful..Jimmy Boyle quote ..” treat a man like an animal and he’ll behave like an animal”..taking a person’s liberty and freedom away in a prison is punishment enough in the vast majority of cases ..treating a person like a dog achieves nothing accept hateful violence
I hate that smug journalist. He didn't have to publish anything, but he was rubbing his hands with glee, knowing this would be Brian's downfall. Journalists are psycho's.
John undoubtedly had ptsd. I had some sympathy until the strangling incident and picking on his son for no reason. I wonder if Dot stuck around and what their children would say now about their childhoods.
People work really hard for their possessions have the right to be protected against theft.Young lads do make mistakes the hope is they will grow up contributing to the community they live in.At 60 I look back at my life nearly all of the lads I ran with are dead from drug addictions.Some will never change but some do with a little help poverty goes from generation to generation some lads just need some positive input/influence.There needs to be punishment a deterrent but likewise there should be training education for those who want a way out of the circle of re offending.
When I schoolboy (1970s, East London), I had Saturday job at my uncle's butchers shop. I had a mate who was a good kid and no trouble but couldn't find a job. His dad told him to throw a brick through a shop window and wait for the Police! From that point on the state would look after him, find him a job or trade, all at the tax payers expense! He never did that but some parent hey!
By the mid 1960s Britain was dead and buried and unemployment and poverty on the rise yet again due to mass immigration and by the 1970s Europe was long overdue for another war against Russia. The young lads in Borstal would have done better in the Army etc. going East against Russia with no time for crime.
HAVE YOU THE DOC THAT WAS FILMED IN THE 70S ABOUT BOB MORSLEY, IVE LOOKED N SEARCHED BUT, YOU SEEM TO FIND ALL THE GOOD CONTENT, THE DOC WAS ACTUALLY FIMBED IN WAKEFIELD, BOB IS SEEN TALKING WHILST HE WAS ON THE BLOCK JARD, ALSO IN HIS. CELL?
Brian Harvey was a teenager who had found a trusty supplier of quality pills.. My old mate used to take 6 or 7 doves, mistsubishi's, supermans etc. He always said the colouring determined whether he had them or not. I'm nearly 13 years younger than him, He's 54 and still here... not that I encourage it. R.i.p. To all those who had taken a bad batch and passed away. Be careful out there.
I feel so sorry for John and wonder what became of him. His wife is wonderful and a gift from the gods for a man like John but he needed intensive therapy at a time when it didn't seem to figure in anyone's calculations. The damage done to children in such abusive circumstances is often beyond repair
A great insight into prison life in 1970 and not one man was uninteresting to listen to. Why any system would expect these men not to go on to reoffend when they're being given no incentives to change their ways, is the real mystery
Absolutely loved this when it first aired. Very little hip hop on British TV at the time and this was hard as fuck for 88. I bought X's first two albums on the strength of it. The documentary it's based on is somewhere on You Tube somewhere.
Barry's schizophrenic a bad one this is back in the day when people and doctors didn't understand schizophrenia he seeing spiders on his like and people making sectionally advances to him all the time wow he should be in broadmo
Carlin Name and number to the Govnor
That Guy reminded me of Dylan in porridge😅
Top
The bloke at 11:00 doing the reverse leg raises getting himself in shape for Barry 😂
16:29 😂this bloke omg I shouldn’t laugh but sweet Jesus
And no one cares!
So just listen to these fellas. Everyone of them very intelligent & all with only positive thought. I've never seen this documentary. I first became aware of the Special Unit while in jail myself in NI as a young man in the 1980s where I read both of Jimmy Boyles books A Sense of Freedom & Prison Diaries 👏. As to why they shut something so positive just shows the corruption of the fuckin clowns we call government ffs! Even in today's very different world this idea would still even now be ahead of its time. We were all misunderstood We are as one. Great video Big Stuff & great to hear your stories 👍 👏
I wonder how many of theses kids ended up dead or in prison.
Fall out of banana tree then my lad
Name and Number To The Govnor, Carlin, No Dollymixtures in here
Ray Winston, Carlin(Scum) Where's Your Weapon, Classic
I always thought a Borstal was a juvenile prison, how old are these dudes
Brilliant documentary , l can relate to what they are saying my first sentence was 1980 Glenochil then Barr then Saughtonthen frierton then lowmoss then Perth not big sentences but 2 of 18 month and 1 of 2 yes the rest were 6months to 9 months but glad to say been 23 years without jail , but thanks for sharing this video all the best 🫡👏👍
I can hear Frazier From Dad's Army, Saying "Were Doomed" 😅
A Sense Of Freedom Jimmy Boyle’s book far better than the movie ..the violence he dished out and received was on a different level ..because of the Barlinnie special unit he rehabilitated and became very successful..Jimmy Boyle quote ..” treat a man like an animal and he’ll behave like an animal”..taking a person’s liberty and freedom away in a prison is punishment enough in the vast majority of cases ..treating a person like a dog achieves nothing accept hateful violence
1971 or 1976?
I hate that smug journalist. He didn't have to publish anything, but he was rubbing his hands with glee, knowing this would be Brian's downfall. Journalists are psycho's.
Most of them snort cocaine any way.
Used to take bacci tins of us in saughton digger incase we made weapon
He was in good company with Jimmy Saville
John undoubtedly had ptsd. I had some sympathy until the strangling incident and picking on his son for no reason. I wonder if Dot stuck around and what their children would say now about their childhoods.
Why are they offering a French language course in prison? What are these inmates going to do with foreign languages?
The old London accent. Long replaced by you know what.
46min fucking monster!!!!
People work really hard for their possessions have the right to be protected against theft.Young lads do make mistakes the hope is they will grow up contributing to the community they live in.At 60 I look back at my life nearly all of the lads I ran with are dead from drug addictions.Some will never change but some do with a little help poverty goes from generation to generation some lads just need some positive input/influence.There needs to be punishment a deterrent but likewise there should be training education for those who want a way out of the circle of re offending.
Had to laugh at the bloke sitting there stuffing his face with cake while getting seranaded with a guitar 😂
He was still humble, back then.
ah the old days when the queens english was still heard
Hands of cooks feet in sock's unit 8 2001
So not having a witness automatically means that you made a malicious alegation lol.
When I schoolboy (1970s, East London), I had Saturday job at my uncle's butchers shop. I had a mate who was a good kid and no trouble but couldn't find a job. His dad told him to throw a brick through a shop window and wait for the Police! From that point on the state would look after him, find him a job or trade, all at the tax payers expense! He never did that but some parent hey!
0:55 “First time I ever saw them I was in the Miss World contest” ‘While ago was it?’ 😂
By the mid 1960s Britain was dead and buried and unemployment and poverty on the rise yet again due to mass immigration and by the 1970s Europe was long overdue for another war against Russia. The young lads in Borstal would have done better in the Army etc. going East against Russia with no time for crime.
Looks scary 😟
This is not Follow The Leader
Hello Cook'd and Bomb'd, you humourless pack of dildos!
I was in Strangeways in the late 80s. Sorry, I meant Grandways. 😮💨
HAVE YOU THE DOC THAT WAS FILMED IN THE 70S ABOUT BOB MORSLEY, IVE LOOKED N SEARCHED BUT, YOU SEEM TO FIND ALL THE GOOD CONTENT, THE DOC WAS ACTUALLY FIMBED IN WAKEFIELD, BOB IS SEEN TALKING WHILST HE WAS ON THE BLOCK JARD, ALSO IN HIS. CELL?
Brings back some sad memories and waisted years you never get back , the only good thing was is my wife left me
You ain't even got enough pride to say something about about Kris Kristofferson one day you'll be dead too
Kangaroo Court fs
Brian Harvey was a teenager who had found a trusty supplier of quality pills.. My old mate used to take 6 or 7 doves, mistsubishi's, supermans etc. He always said the colouring determined whether he had them or not. I'm nearly 13 years younger than him, He's 54 and still here... not that I encourage it. R.i.p. To all those who had taken a bad batch and passed away. Be careful out there.
I feel so sorry for John and wonder what became of him. His wife is wonderful and a gift from the gods for a man like John but he needed intensive therapy at a time when it didn't seem to figure in anyone's calculations. The damage done to children in such abusive circumstances is often beyond repair
A great insight into prison life in 1970 and not one man was uninteresting to listen to. Why any system would expect these men not to go on to reoffend when they're being given no incentives to change their ways, is the real mystery
Absolutely loved this when it first aired. Very little hip hop on British TV at the time and this was hard as fuck for 88. I bought X's first two albums on the strength of it. The documentary it's based on is somewhere on You Tube somewhere.
Barry's schizophrenic a bad one this is back in the day when people and doctors didn't understand schizophrenia he seeing spiders on his like and people making sectionally advances to him all the time wow he should be in broadmo
Brilliant.. Nonce's
The old man with the indecent assault charges on a nine year old oh my god my stomach churned made me feel sick
touching children dont think its serious is that nonce for real
First broadcast on Wednesday 8th July 1970 at 8pm on BBC2.