The US would not have to do much if Britain was attacked because the sub would wipe out Russian population centres as a return of fire. We have never depended solely on the USA because of their tendency to panic. There are also other options available to UK forces abroad and deployable from the mainland even in the event of nuclear attack.
I spent months worrying myself to death about nuclear war in the early eighties because of the Cold War and a film called Threads. It ruined my time with my baby because I felt guilty bringing him into a dangerous world. He’s 42 now and I don’t worry about it anymore because it never happened and probably never will and even if it does I am going to enjoy the time I have. Worrying serves zero purpose.
yet the worrying is what helped pressure the government into repelling the russian propaganda wars, being strong against their attempted invasions and control over european countries, the worrying and tackling russia is why were still free today, its why the cold war never got hot. You have to worry now again more than ever, putin is coming so close to attacking MORE european countries. What about the worry of the people of ukraine, their fears came true as they were violently and brutally attacked by an evil warmongering nation. If you want to protect your country for your childrens children you have to resist resist resist, never stop fighting off russian propaganda and lies and encourage your politicans to stand strong against them and their threats. Im proud of the uk for allowing ukraine to strike russia back but i just wish we werent so pussy and did that 2 years ago.
I remember watching Threads when I was 11, and it frightened me to death. The next day in the playground all anyone could talk about was the deformed mutant baby...
When the Wind Blows (1986) Writer Raymond Briggs (Yes the same on who wrote The Snowman) A naive elderly British rural couple survive the initial onslaught of a nuclear war.
The end was terrifying the only thing to survive was the buildings. It was a wake up call after Hiroshima when the us killed 140,000 people in Hiroshima but no one escapes a nuclear 😮
I think by 'not before putting the toaster down' she just meant it's not the very first thing they do on entering office ....... they might have some breakfast first but it's something they do in the first few days
When I was young and up until around ‘92, where I grew up on the Firth of Clyde was directly across from lochs that held Coulport, Faslane (both part of UK submarine bases and still in use) and a US naval base that was on a platform in the middle of the Holy Loch. Meaning that for the first 17 years of my life I was living in an area that could be strategic targets for countries that saw the UK and the US as enemies. My Dad also worked at Coulport and I have quite vivid memories of when he was issued with a mirror on a shaft that had a torch for a handle, so that he could check under his car for bombs in the mid 80’s. You also see the submarines sailing up the Clyde quite often to go for repairs and refits…or general maintenance.
Don't diss Royal Mail. One of the most expensive diamonds in the world was shipped from Africa to the royals in the UK. It was in a lockbox, in a safe, on board a naval ship, with full security, and a naval escort. Except it wasn't. That was all a decoy. It was actually in a normal box, sent by registered post via Royal Mail.
Vanguard SLBM submarines carry 12 trident missiles with up to 8 warheads each totalling 96 - Truly a world ending amount of power. hard to even imagine the damage if Vanguard sent its full arsenal
When I was in the British army in the 1970’s we were told the Russia and the U.S had an agreement that they would only fight a limited nuclear war. What this ment was that they wouldn’t fire nuc’s at each other and only use them on the countries in between
There’s 4 Vanguard class submarines one is always sat within range of Britain’s main threat. I used to be in the Navy and my job was Sonar (hunting subs) it was great and you’d be surprised how easy it was to find US subs.
@@michaelmoule9727 we had towed array sonar on our type 23 frigates, it was that accurate we new when a ship or sub was leaving port. I preferred active sonar when I was on HMS Southampton (Destroyer) it gave me more of a buzz operating it. Kudos for being part of the team that designed passive sonar for our ships.👏 I’m not sure if our newer ships are equipped with TAS equipment.
It would be good for a reaction to some of the 80s cold war British TV. Threads, When the wind Blows, or even a episode of only fools and horses entitled The Russian are coming. I suspect a lot of the subscribers grew up with these.
There also seem to be threats to sovereign nations like Canada, Panama and Greenland. OK Greenland is not actually sovereign, but it is basically a NATO ally and part of Denmark.
No they don't run off steam they produce heat which when coupled with water then creates steam, this then goes to a turbine which turns the generator to produce energy.
I am a cold war kid as a teenager in the 70's I remember the 'Protect and Survive' leaflets coming in the post on what to do in the event of a nuclear attack, everyone just laughed and threw them in the bin joined CND instead.
I remember them. The darn useless things . Hide under your kitchen table, pile mattresses on top and at the doors, or, hide under the stairs. If caught outside hide in a ditch! Yup no such things as public nuclear bunkers in the UK. Just for the upper classes.
@@HeatherMyfanwyTylerGreeythat lack of bunker building particularly annoyed me... and then during the "koff" the constant telling us it was "their duty" to save us all. 🤣
As a UK citizen in my mid 50s living in a military town I have been living with the threat of a Soviet Nuclear strike all my life, we were even taught in school (80s) what to do in the event of an attack so the threat is anything but new
Me too! I had a lot of nightmares as it seemed that it was an inevitability rather than an abstract idea. The Russian 'threats' bring back a bit of that fear again
@fififerguson6483 I think the "West" has become complacent between the fall of the Soviet Union & the rise of Putin to the threat of war, especially a nuclear one. So the population and media, in particular, think a threat like this is a new thing, not realising it has been a threat since 1945
_Watt_ a good thing _someone_ created a useful steam-enabled device, as the devices (apprently) the 'driving forces' for practically every other necessary engine remain steam-powered...if only Watt knew what the results his efforts could be... (I wonder Watt he would think of that?)
"This is not a very well kept secret is it?" Well that's the point of a deterrent. How can it deter anyone if they don't know about it? The bit you keep secret is where it is located while on patrol. Also... "Druid Stones..." Nope. The druids came much much much much later than the stones. Even to the druids, these were ancient stone circles.
Actually Pictish Wisemen/Priests (later called Druids because of the Celtic influence) were around for some of the stone circles and Cairn constructions, which predate the likes of Stonehenge. So Druid Stones isn't a bad nickname for them.
the secret is the fact no one knows what's written on those letters and no one knows the the nuclear submarine currently is, not the fact we have a last resort.
JJLA you need to check out the UK movie called "Threads" it deals directly with Nuclear war and the aftermath its truely realistic and terrifiying. Its a must see, its the most realistic Nuke film ever.
Why bother with movies when you can watch what happened to Hiroshima for real Nukes are no movie and when it happens and I happen to think it will either go deep or get as close as you can.
Hello from Barrow. fun fact: That photo at 11:57. see that tower just under the covered sub segment? that's just across the road from my flat :D Its strange when I think that I live in the centre of a navy shipyard that builds some of the worlds most powerful nuclear submarines. Back in the yearly 90s when the vanguard class subs were made, the yard had an open day and the public got to take a walking tour in and around the new subs. I recall them being rather cramped even as a child, I can't imagine what it would be like to live on one full time. Love your reactions btw :D
My old housemate was on that boat! He left to join the navy, and went into the sub service, he was underwater for 6 months at a time. He's not said anything about the sub because of the official secrets act!
@@dwinterx I'm afraid it probably does. Since they know that it is this particular super secret sub and not ever mentioning that fact to anyone is probably part of the deal. Of course I could be wrong, just makes more sense to me that way.
Subs can stay under water for very long periods and are extremely self sufficient, they make oxygen two ways, through electrolysis of purified sea water and by burning large candles, they need two methods as back-up for each other, the candles are very dangerous so have to be burnt in special sealed containers, they have nuclear generators so can produce plenty of power too.
the question of how do they know to open the safe, every day they will raise to radio depth and receive a transmission from the UK, if this transmission isn't heard for 4 hours they will listen to the BBC world service, it has news and local updates, if the BBC also isn't transmitting and they cannot receive any other news from foreign stations they must assume that the country is gone, that's when they open the safe and read the letter
:) "..putting the toaster down" Moving into your new house and putting the toaster down . hopefully by the kettle on the worktop in the kitchen, probably before the curtains go up and the big bits o'furniture.... Apologies, possibly too many social assumptions Happy new year :)
We have 2 types of nuclear boats in service at all times. The nuclear deterrent and the attack subs, which carry cruise missiles and torpedoes. The astute class has been slowly replacing the trafalgar class. Fun fact, almost all our old nuclear boats still exist in some state of decommissioning, with some finally coming up for final disposal. One is operated as a museum ship.
another fun fact Nelsons flagship HMS Victory has never been decommissioned so is the longest serving ship in the fleet & is also a legitimate target still.
I live near Faslane and have friends who serve on subs...sounds like a horrible job, especially as their patrols seem to always exceed their estimated length (3 months min, I think) so they never know how long they'll be underwater.
I was watching this video in Manchester in the UK when it got to the comment about Russia striking the UK instead of the US, and you pondering on whether thinking about it would make it happen. For several minutes I couldn't help contemplating the delicious irony of it happening exactly at the time I was watching the video. [News update: It didn't.] Fun fact on secrets: The Post Office Tower was at one point the tallest building in London, incorporating both a revolving restaurant and an observation platform, and visible from just about anywhere in the city. It was officially a secret. I think it may have even been left off of any maps, though the small blank area on the map may have served as a bit of a clue.
The last Dreadnaught was launched in 1905 it was the first all big gun battleship, that made every other large war-ship obsolete, and all the worlds battleships were divided into Dreadnaughts or Pre-Dreadnaughts, the next upgrade became known as Super Dreadnaughts. One of the other new subs in the Dreadnaught class is the 9th HMS Warspite, the 7th HMS Warspite was launched 8years after Dreadnaught in 1913, as one of the first Super Dreadnaughts she served through both world wars, earned 15 battle honours, more than any other Royal Navy ship, she scored the longest battleship on battleship hit in history at 27,000yards, she was also the first ship to open fire at Normandy, use all her main gun ammunition, sail back to Britain to rearm, sail back, use it all again and have to rearm a second time. She also refused to go to the breakers yard after the war, she broke her tow-lines and ran aground on the Cornish coast.they managed to re-float her and move her 2 or 3 hundred yards before she ran aground again. In the end they broke her up in-situ.
@@reluctantheist5224 Being bloody minded and charging the enemy, without order's too. The Machine Spirit, that is Warspite, would probaly launch without order's too.
@@MisterChrisInTheUK Please. Lets not get anal about this. Most people know that originaly Big Ben was the bell, but since the latter half of the 19th century, Big Ben has come to mean the entire tower. And don't get me started on "Elizabeth Tower" Show most people a picture of thne clock tower, they will say big ben.
A nuclear power station is just a very big ssteam engine. The rods heat the water, it turns to steam and rotates a steam turbime, which genrates electricity. Exactly the same as a coal and gas fired powered station work.
I am a member of The Ghost Club. We used to have a member a Commander Bill Bellars OBE. He was interested in Ghosts and the Loch Ness Monster. He had served in Submarines during the second World War. After the war he disappeared from view. He was in Washington for a time, was all that was heard of him. After he retired he received an OBE. We now believe that he was in charge of the Polaris Nuclear submarine fleet!
@davidwatts-hw2dh And that would have been true if the world didn't have nuclear weapons. I mean just think about it for a minute - countries spending untold billions on things so they don't have to use the things they're spending untold billions on. That seems a little MAD. And it's not as if they even prevent war.
@ How many folks died in WW1 & WW2? No world wars since 1945. Why? Because you can threaten any aggressor with the same big stick they threaten you with!
Their military is still working out if they should put the fire out in California or just leave it to burn, 2 birds 1 stone thing comes to mind well sorry America you ran out of time to fix this.
Most engines still run on steam because it is still the best tried and tested way to create energy. People mistakingly think that nuclear power plants create energy from nuclear fusion, but no it's the nuclear fusion that creates enough heat to create the steam needed to power our cities. It is still steam that we use to get our energy, in the old days we used coal to create the steam.
That's an Astute class submarine which is in service now, then the Dreadnought class. All nuclear submarines can make their own clean water, and oxygen.
Pretty much all electricity generation uses steam to turn a turbine (coal, gas & nuclear). Wind doesn’t, but still uses a turbine. Solar is about the only totally different energy generation type I think.
All nuclear reactors produce heat to boil water and produce steam to drive generators or turbines, including all electricity generating stations worldwide. Good old Charles Algernon Parsons was credited with the invention and design of the steam turbine.
And the submarine is a great British invention and then people stolen our inventions no country is strong without help without the uk with our tank radar aircraft carrier all our stuff
The USA and Russia have a policy of "No pre-emptive strike, although Putin is willing to call a non-nuclear strike on Moscow a "first strike". France's nuclear deterrent is built around the "warning shot" strategy in which they will nuke a non-vital target in order to demonstrate their willingness to escalate, so France is happy to fire the first shot. Britain's nuclear strategy is based on having the last shot, aimed at the first one of the enemy to emerge from their shelters and try to see who else survived.
When she said 'Putting the toaster down', she just means moving into Downing Street and setting out their own belongings in the kitchen, including their toaster. ie it is not the very first thing they do as Prime Minister, before they even move into the official residence, but it happens quite soon.
'Putting the toaster down' was just a joke by Kalyn referencing a new Prime Minister moving in to 10 Downing street. They arrive, empty the boxes pf kitchen equipment on to the counter top, like we all do when moving into a new home, and then pretty soon get down to serious work. When I was young we all lived in a world where we assumed (in our bleakest moments) that eventually there would be nuclear war- then it all went away for a couple of decades, and now the threats are back. Putin is all talk- but we do have to ensure we don't push him so far he chooses to act, in a sort of 'macho-off' with the rest of the world.
Gas generators are a little more like a turboprop jet engine. The start up is very quick. Coal, oil and nuclear are usually continually on line to give the base load. I thought the British can't use nuclear weapons without US agreement - this is the folklore.
1:30 If Russia launched it's nukes at Britain, being a NATO member, article 5 would be triggered and the US would be forced to join the fight and launch also.
The US had planned to use nuclear weapons on Berlin in WWII before deciding to bomb Japan. It would have affected the whole of Europe, including Britain, bearing in mind that Chernobyl fall-out affected farm animals in the north of England.
Would they have wiped out the German government? They deliberately did not do so in Japan. The victor needs those in unquestioned authority amongst the enemy to instruct their forces to lay down their arms and surrender and those in charge were in Berlin until the final days. Admiral Donitz, at his home near Hamburg at the time, was not appointed German president until two days before Berlin fell to the Soviets.
Dreadnaught was the name of the first all "big gun" battle ship int the world the revolutionised modern warfare (WW 1), also "Dreadnaught" = fear nothing.
I served in HM forces during the Cold War. Mentally when I first learned about it it was terrifying. But here's the thing; Because the threat was constant you became inured to it. You had a specific set or conditional requirements for it to happen and a lot of 'noise' from the antagonist (Russia in this case). You were trained specifically to face the threat. It made us resolute and confident. M A D was possible, but, we knew it had an outside chance of happening. So. You trained, worked hard, and got on with the job. Simples. Russia was threatening complete destruction every 2 minutes..... we'd just keep calm and carry on.
Barrow, in Cumbria is chosen for nuclear submarines because of it's remoteness from large conurbations as is Sellafield nuclear site. In case of accidents(which DO happen) or the fact that they are a First Target in the event of a nuclear strike.
A couple of miles away from me is a "Secret bunker". The idea was that local government officials would move in, along with military personnel. It's now a tourist site and very interesting.
It should be noted that most nuclear reactors generate electricity by heating water to turn turbines. Deriving power from fusion directly is not really a thing. There are nuclear power supplies that are used in space but none of this is used on earth as far as I am aware.
I live near the nuclear sub base in Scotland so Ive nothing to fear. I wouldnt know anything or feel anything. It would be over in miliseconds for me and my family and friends.
lots of golf to do, golf needs to be done, and when doing golf, it's the bestest ever golf that's ever been golfed, those people over in Scotch land that invented it would love to be here golfing with me for i am the most amazing golf guy that's ever wore plus fours. golf, we do golf, golf golf golf golf golf. #please god.
Now the US president is threatening countries and basically the rest of the World who did give a hoot about them. So well done dad for your service, and the UK. As far as this is concerned.
When she said putting the toaster down, she would have been better saying unpacking the kettle. In other words, for most people the first thing you unpack when you move house. It is one of those things that shows she is not a native Brit, which of course she isn’t.
I feel like this is the wrong time (or maybe the right mood changer) for a reaction recommendation, but please react to Horrible Histories for an insight in how a lot of us really learnt history growing up! I looked through your channel and have been watching for ages and dont think I've seen you react to it yet.
As long as he doesn't watch all the more recent woke shite, that's trying to teach our children, that black people have always been in this land and were playing important parts in our long history.
Biden never had our back at any time and he kept trying to tell us what to do about N.Ireland, even going so far as to claim to be Irish, so we know what kind of US American he was. The people of the US though, always with us, as we are with them. (except for that little Tea incident they did and where we burnt their house and they had to paint it white to cover it up).
Having worked for Sperry when I first left school, I happen to know a lot about both the nuclear submarine program and the missiles it carries. The Vanguard class submarines replaced the former swiftsure class. There are Russian submarines operating in the channel and Atlantic but I am not at liberty to reveal.how I know this
SWS stands for Strategic Weapon System and each crew does not have over a hundred officers, maybe 30 officers then the rest is made up of none commissioned personnel.
No, Russia has a defensive ( or maybe, looking at the circumstances of the last three years *had) stance when it comes to nuclear strikes, while the USA allows itself to attack "pre-emptively", which is, in my opinion, enough to sentence anyone who approved it for treason against humanity, which really should be a thing.
The US would not have to do much if Britain was attacked because the sub would wipe out Russian population centres as a return of fire. We have never depended solely on the USA because of their tendency to panic. There are also other options available to UK forces abroad and deployable from the mainland even in the event of nuclear attack.
I spent months worrying myself to death about nuclear war in the early eighties because of the Cold War and a film called Threads. It ruined my time with my baby because I felt guilty bringing him into a dangerous world. He’s 42 now and I don’t worry about it anymore because it never happened and probably never will and even if it does I am going to enjoy the time I have. Worrying serves zero purpose.
It was scary to be thoughtful at the height of the Cold War.
yet the worrying is what helped pressure the government into repelling the russian propaganda wars, being strong against their attempted invasions and control over european countries, the worrying and tackling russia is why were still free today, its why the cold war never got hot. You have to worry now again more than ever, putin is coming so close to attacking MORE european countries. What about the worry of the people of ukraine, their fears came true as they were violently and brutally attacked by an evil warmongering nation. If you want to protect your country for your childrens children you have to resist resist resist, never stop fighting off russian propaganda and lies and encourage your politicans to stand strong against them and their threats. Im proud of the uk for allowing ukraine to strike russia back but i just wish we werent so pussy and did that 2 years ago.
And now the internet and cyber attacks and solar mass ejections are poised to decimate society.
And no-one gives a s***.
So that's all good, then. 🙄
I remember watching Threads when I was 11, and it frightened me to death. The next day in the playground all anyone could talk about was the deformed mutant baby...
That film scared me too.
I'm not scared of dying from nuclear war, i'm scared of not dying from them.
The letter just says delete my search history!!!
🤣
It's a Rick Roll
When the Wind Blows (1986) Writer Raymond Briggs (Yes the same on who wrote The Snowman) A naive elderly British rural couple survive the initial onslaught of a nuclear war.
Love that movie 😢
Weirdly that's the vhs I rented the most from our local service station as a child...
I liked how the old couple innocently tried to treat radiation burns with Germolene.
That's a beauty 😅😅
The end was terrifying the only thing to survive was the buildings. It was a wake up call after Hiroshima when the us killed 140,000 people in Hiroshima but no one escapes a nuclear 😮
I think by 'not before putting the toaster down' she just meant it's not the very first thing they do on entering office ....... they might have some breakfast first but it's something they do in the first few days
When I was young and up until around ‘92, where I grew up on the Firth of Clyde was directly across from lochs that held Coulport, Faslane (both part of UK submarine bases and still in use) and a US naval base that was on a platform in the middle of the Holy Loch. Meaning that for the first 17 years of my life I was living in an area that could be strategic targets for countries that saw the UK and the US as enemies. My Dad also worked at Coulport and I have quite vivid memories of when he was issued with a mirror on a shaft that had a torch for a handle, so that he could check under his car for bombs in the mid 80’s.
You also see the submarines sailing up the Clyde quite often to go for repairs and refits…or general maintenance.
I grew up in the same place.
Still see the subs goin by regularly the russian boats and subs are never far away either they're always snoopin aboot just off our shores
Nuclear Rods heat water to produce steam to drive turbines. Same with Coal, gas and oil. all conventional electricity is steam power.
Wind, hydro, and solar are fairly concentional
Don't diss Royal Mail.
One of the most expensive diamonds in the world was shipped from Africa to the royals in the UK.
It was in a lockbox, in a safe, on board a naval ship, with full security, and a naval escort.
Except it wasn't. That was all a decoy. It was actually in a normal box, sent by registered post via Royal Mail.
That was back then, I wouldn't rely on the Royal Mail these days.
That was back then, I wouldn't rely on the Royal Mail these days.
@@pauldurkee4764 You have supporting evidence, obviously?
@@Varksterable
Unfortunately I do, being one of their customers.
When Kaylin said "putting the toaster down", it's not a ritual, she just means that the new Prime Minister is moving in to 10 Downing Street.
A more common expression for the same thing would be "before they even take their coat off".
Vanguard SLBM submarines carry 12 trident missiles with up to 8 warheads each totalling 96 - Truly a world ending amount of power. hard to even imagine the damage if Vanguard sent its full arsenal
That first picture that you call a fort in your Cumbria search is Carlisle Castle where I live 😀
When I was in the British army in the 1970’s we were told the Russia and the U.S had an agreement that they would only fight a limited nuclear war. What this ment was that they wouldn’t fire nuc’s at each other and only use them on the countries in between
There’s 4 Vanguard class submarines one is always sat within range of Britain’s main threat.
I used to be in the Navy and my job was Sonar (hunting subs) it was great and you’d be surprised how easy it was to find US subs.
I have heard this is true too, an Astut class found 4 US subs but not one US Sub found the Astute
Totally agree US boats were as easy as Russian
I work for the company that developed and made passive sonar array system in the 1980's. Are the still in use.?
@@michaelmoule9727 we had towed array sonar on our type 23 frigates, it was that accurate we new when a ship or sub was leaving port. I preferred active sonar when I was on HMS Southampton (Destroyer) it gave me more of a buzz operating it. Kudos for being part of the team that designed passive sonar for our ships.👏
I’m not sure if our newer ships are equipped with TAS equipment.
Is this a comment on how loud Americans are? 🙂
It would be good for a reaction to some of the 80s cold war British TV. Threads, When the wind Blows, or even a episode of only fools and horses entitled The Russian are coming. I suspect a lot of the subscribers grew up with these.
"Putting the toaster down" means before breakfast. In this example, it is before the first time he has breakfast in No. 10/the first thing he does.
There also seem to be threats to sovereign nations like Canada, Panama and Greenland.
OK Greenland is not actually sovereign, but it is basically a NATO ally and part of Denmark.
the guys a tube. anyone backing that type of nonsense will be given short shrift.
Putin Threats or Trump's ?
@@scotmax8426... * the saying is 'short shrift'. ❤️
@@highpath4776 How do you tell the difference, now?
@@Tidybitz fingers.
When the Wind Blows by Raymond Briggs worth a look (with Ethel and Ernie as the Prequel to that )
All nuclear reactors run off steam. In fact, all thermal power stations run on steam.
No they don't run off steam they produce heat which when coupled with water then creates steam, this then goes to a turbine which turns the generator to produce energy.
I am a cold war kid as a teenager in the 70's I remember the 'Protect and Survive' leaflets coming in the post on what to do in the event of a nuclear attack, everyone just laughed and threw them in the bin joined CND instead.
I remember them. The darn useless things . Hide under your kitchen table, pile mattresses on top and at the doors, or, hide under the stairs. If caught outside hide in a ditch! Yup no such things as public nuclear bunkers in the UK. Just for the upper classes.
@@HeatherMyfanwyTylerGreeythat lack of bunker building particularly annoyed me... and then during the "koff" the constant telling us it was "their duty" to save us all. 🤣
As a UK citizen in my mid 50s living in a military town I have been living with the threat of a Soviet Nuclear strike all my life, we were even taught in school (80s) what to do in the event of an attack so the threat is anything but new
Me too! I had a lot of nightmares as it seemed that it was an inevitability rather than an abstract idea. The Russian 'threats' bring back a bit of that fear again
@fififerguson6483 I think the "West" has become complacent between the fall of the Soviet Union & the rise of Putin to the threat of war, especially a nuclear one. So the population and media, in particular, think a threat like this is a new thing, not realising it has been a threat since 1945
_Watt_ a good thing _someone_ created a useful steam-enabled device, as the devices (apprently) the 'driving forces' for practically every other necessary engine remain steam-powered...if only Watt knew what the results his efforts could be...
(I wonder Watt he would think of that?)
"This is not a very well kept secret is it?" Well that's the point of a deterrent. How can it deter anyone if they don't know about it? The bit you keep secret is where it is located while on patrol.
Also... "Druid Stones..." Nope. The druids came much much much much later than the stones. Even to the druids, these were ancient stone circles.
Actually Pictish Wisemen/Priests (later called Druids because of the Celtic influence) were around for some of the stone circles and Cairn constructions, which predate the likes of Stonehenge. So Druid Stones isn't a bad nickname for them.
the secret is the fact no one knows what's written on those letters and no one knows the the nuclear submarine currently is, not the fact we have a last resort.
JJLA you need to check out the UK movie called "Threads" it deals directly with Nuclear war and the aftermath its truely realistic and terrifiying. Its a must see, its the most realistic Nuke film ever.
Why bother with movies when you can watch what happened to Hiroshima for real Nukes are no movie and when it happens and I happen to think it will either go deep or get as close as you can.
I wonder if Liz truss had time to write her letter??
Chilling thought that she had that little job to do. 😮
She just drew a picture of a lettuce.
Hello from Barrow.
fun fact: That photo at 11:57. see that tower just under the covered sub segment? that's just across the road from my flat :D
Its strange when I think that I live in the centre of a navy shipyard that builds some of the worlds most powerful nuclear submarines.
Back in the yearly 90s when the vanguard class subs were made, the yard had an open day and the public got to take a walking tour in and around the new subs.
I recall them being rather cramped even as a child, I can't imagine what it would be like to live on one full time.
Love your reactions btw :D
Surely you want any enemies of the UK to know that nuclear submarines exist ,but not know where they are to deter any attacks.the❤❤.
If no one knows it exists - it can't be a deterrent.
My old housemate was on that boat!
He left to join the navy, and went into the sub service, he was underwater for 6 months at a time.
He's not said anything about the sub because of the official secrets act!
Apparently not, since you know he was on it.
@@ArmageddonAfterparty I don't think saying 'I served on a submarine' would really qualify as 'top secret'. 😁
@@dwinterx I'm afraid it probably does. Since they know that it is this particular super secret sub and not ever mentioning that fact to anyone is probably part of the deal. Of course I could be wrong, just makes more sense to me that way.
"Put the toaster down." As soon as they move in and put the toaster in the kitchen.
"it's basically a steam engine"
Every nuclear power station works the same way.
Subs can stay under water for very long periods and are extremely self sufficient, they make oxygen two ways, through electrolysis of purified sea water and by burning large candles, they need two methods as back-up for each other, the candles are very dangerous so have to be burnt in special sealed containers, they have nuclear generators so can produce plenty of power too.
the question of how do they know to open the safe, every day they will raise to radio depth and receive a transmission from the UK, if this transmission isn't heard for 4 hours they will listen to the BBC world service, it has news and local updates, if the BBC also isn't transmitting and they cannot receive any other news from foreign stations they must assume that the country is gone, that's when they open the safe and read the letter
Yup, the subs come up to a certain depth but remain submerged. They communicate using ultra low frequency.
We’d be more likely to say unpack the kettle - the first thing done after a move to a new home, ready to make that cup of tea.
:)
"..putting the toaster down"
Moving into your new house and putting the toaster down
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hopefully by the kettle on the worktop in the kitchen, probably before the curtains go up and the big bits o'furniture....
Apologies, possibly too many social assumptions
Happy new year
:)
We have 2 types of nuclear boats in service at all times. The nuclear deterrent and the attack subs, which carry cruise missiles and torpedoes.
The astute class has been slowly replacing the trafalgar class.
Fun fact, almost all our old nuclear boats still exist in some state of decommissioning, with some finally coming up for final disposal. One is operated as a museum ship.
another fun fact Nelsons flagship HMS Victory has never been decommissioned so is the longest serving ship in the fleet & is also a legitimate target still.
I live near Faslane and have friends who serve on subs...sounds like a horrible job, especially as their patrols seem to always exceed their estimated length (3 months min, I think) so they never know how long they'll be underwater.
I was watching this video in Manchester in the UK when it got to the comment about Russia striking the UK instead of the US, and you pondering on whether thinking about it would make it happen. For several minutes I couldn't help contemplating the delicious irony of it happening exactly at the time I was watching the video. [News update: It didn't.]
Fun fact on secrets: The Post Office Tower was at one point the tallest building in London, incorporating both a revolving restaurant and an observation platform, and visible from just about anywhere in the city. It was officially a secret. I think it may have even been left off of any maps, though the small blank area on the map may have served as a bit of a clue.
The last Dreadnaught was launched in 1905 it was the first all big gun battleship, that made every other large war-ship obsolete, and all the worlds battleships were divided into Dreadnaughts or Pre-Dreadnaughts, the next upgrade became known as Super Dreadnaughts. One of the other new subs in the Dreadnaught class is the 9th HMS Warspite, the 7th HMS Warspite was launched 8years after Dreadnaught in 1913, as one of the first Super Dreadnaughts she served through both world wars, earned 15 battle honours, more than any other Royal Navy ship, she scored the longest battleship on battleship hit in history at 27,000yards, she was also the first ship to open fire at Normandy, use all her main gun ammunition, sail back to Britain to rearm, sail back, use it all again and have to rearm a second time. She also refused to go to the breakers yard after the war, she broke her tow-lines and ran aground on the Cornish coast.they managed to re-float her and move her 2 or 3 hundred yards before she ran aground again. In the end they broke her up in-situ.
Dreadnought rather than Dreadnaught.
The last HMS Dreadnought was the RN's first nuclear attack submarine launched in 1960.
All ships named Warspite, have a "reputation". Im not sure giving that name to an ballistic missile sub is such a good idea.
@@Yandarval Yes, they have the reputation of being tough to sink.
@@reluctantheist5224 Being bloody minded and charging the enemy, without order's too. The Machine Spirit, that is Warspite, would probaly launch without order's too.
1:50 Why did GGL use footage of the peace tower in Ottawa while talking about Britain? Surely she didn't mistake it for Big Ben?
As at first glance, they look the same.
No I don't think she mistook a tower for a bell ;)
@@MisterChrisInTheUK Please. Lets not get anal about this.
Most people know that originaly Big Ben was the bell, but since the latter half of the 19th century, Big Ben has come to mean the entire tower. And don't get me started on "Elizabeth Tower" Show most people a picture of thne clock tower, they will say big ben.
@@MisterChrisInTheUKI was just about to say the same. The tower is now named The Elizabeth Tower. Before it was simply The Clock Tower.
@@Mabinogion Actually, before it was renamed to Elizabeth Tower, it was previously known as St. Stephen's Tower.
When i worked for Scot JCB in Scotland i had to go to Faslane submarine base to do repairs. We had to sign the official secrets act.
There are a few youtube vids on the new Dreadnought class which look pretty awesome. Definitely review one of these
Put the toaster down just means that’s one of the first things Brits do when they move home.
A nuclear power station is just a very big ssteam engine. The rods heat the water, it turns to steam and rotates a steam turbime, which genrates electricity.
Exactly the same as a coal and gas fired powered station work.
I am a member of The Ghost Club. We used to have a member a Commander Bill Bellars OBE. He was interested in Ghosts and the Loch Ness Monster. He had served in Submarines during the second World War. After the war he disappeared from view. He was in Washington for a time, was all that was heard of him. After he retired he received an OBE. We now believe that he was in charge of the Polaris Nuclear submarine fleet!
It is called MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction. It has worked since WW2.
What do you mean by "worked"?
@@Shoomer88 Well, it means you are here in 2025.
@davidwatts-hw2dh And that would have been true if the world didn't have nuclear weapons. I mean just think about it for a minute - countries spending untold billions on things so they don't have to use the things they're spending untold billions on. That seems a little MAD. And it's not as if they even prevent war.
@ How many folks died in WW1 & WW2? No world wars since 1945. Why? Because you can threaten any aggressor with the same big stick they threaten you with!
So if Russia wipe us (The UK) who's going to play the villains in all the films?
Everyone knows us Brits make the best film baddies.
US. Please don't join in late again ...lol
Their military is still working out if they should put the fire out in California or just leave it to burn, 2 birds 1 stone thing comes to mind well sorry America you ran out of time to fix this.
Most engines still run on steam because it is still the best tried and tested way to create energy. People mistakingly think that nuclear power plants create energy from nuclear fusion, but no it's the nuclear fusion that creates enough heat to create the steam needed to power our cities. It is still steam that we use to get our energy, in the old days we used coal to create the steam.
Fission. We haven't quite perfected nuclear fusion yet 👍
@@markj66 loll always confuse the 2...and yeah fission could be a long way off unless quantum AI can figure it out for us.
Now I got that 'under the sea' song from the little mermaid stuck in my head.
That's an Astute class submarine which is in service now, then the Dreadnought class.
All nuclear submarines can make their own clean water, and oxygen.
Pretty much all electricity generation uses steam to turn a turbine (coal, gas & nuclear). Wind doesn’t, but still uses a turbine. Solar is about the only totally different energy generation type I think.
All nuclear reactors produce heat to boil water and produce steam to drive generators or turbines, including all electricity generating stations worldwide. Good old Charles Algernon Parsons was credited with the invention and design of the steam turbine.
Nuclear reactors are like steam engines except they use rods filled with nuclei that heat the water to make steam instead of burning coal
I live where they build the Submarine fleet, it looks nothing like your Google search 😂😂😂
And the submarine is a great British invention and then people stolen our inventions no country is strong without help without the uk with our tank radar aircraft carrier all our stuff
what a wonderful place it is!
They come to the surface often near Largs off the west coast of Scotland
The USA and Russia have a policy of "No pre-emptive strike, although Putin is willing to call a non-nuclear strike on Moscow a "first strike". France's nuclear deterrent is built around the "warning shot" strategy in which they will nuke a non-vital target in order to demonstrate their willingness to escalate, so France is happy to fire the first shot. Britain's nuclear strategy is based on having the last shot, aimed at the first one of the enemy to emerge from their shelters and try to see who else survived.
All nuclear reactors even in subs or power stations heat water to create steam, that is then used to generate electricity.
When she said 'Putting the toaster down', she just means moving into Downing Street and setting out their own belongings in the kitchen, including their toaster. ie it is not the very first thing they do as Prime Minister, before they even move into the official residence, but it happens quite soon.
'Putting the toaster down' was just a joke by Kalyn referencing a new Prime Minister moving in to 10 Downing street. They arrive, empty the boxes pf kitchen equipment on to the counter top, like we all do when moving into a new home, and then pretty soon get down to serious work.
When I was young we all lived in a world where we assumed (in our bleakest moments) that eventually there would be nuclear war- then it all went away for a couple of decades, and now the threats are back. Putin is all talk- but we do have to ensure we don't push him so far he chooses to act, in a sort of 'macho-off' with the rest of the world.
i am proud to say i live here truly beautiful lake district and you can walk down to the docks and see these beasts being built lol
I've been thinking about winning the lottery for years yet I'm still skint.
Gas generators are a little more like a turboprop jet engine. The start up is very quick. Coal, oil and nuclear are usually continually on line to give the base load. I thought the British can't use nuclear weapons without US agreement - this is the folklore.
I for one will keep calm and carry on.
9:04 The Royal Mail does _not_ lose letters...
4.35 Why did she show a Russian Typhoon boat while talking about the British Vanguard class?
1:30 If Russia launched it's nukes at Britain, being a NATO member, article 5 would be triggered and the US would be forced to join the fight and launch also.
We would only need to wait a couple of years for them to decide whether there was a profit to be made. France is a more reliable ally than the USA
I hope they let us know before hand so I can take the day off work
Neuclear power stations are essentially steam as well, it is what turns the turbine. The only difference is the fuel that is used.
She means is not the first thing he does after he has moved in.
The US had planned to use nuclear weapons on Berlin in WWII before deciding to bomb Japan. It would have affected the whole of Europe, including Britain, bearing in mind that Chernobyl fall-out affected farm animals in the north of England.
Nuclear detonation is different, the radiation is intense but short lived, it wouldn't affect much outside of Berlin.
Would they have wiped out the German government? They deliberately did not do so in Japan. The victor needs those in unquestioned authority amongst the enemy to instruct their forces to lay down their arms and surrender and those in charge were in Berlin until the final days. Admiral Donitz, at his home near Hamburg at the time, was not appointed German president until two days before Berlin fell to the Soviets.
Dreadnaught was the name of the first all "big gun" battle ship int the world the revolutionised modern warfare (WW 1), also "Dreadnaught" = fear nothing.
I served in HM forces during the Cold War.
Mentally when I first learned about it it was terrifying.
But here's the thing; Because the threat was constant you became inured to it. You had a specific set or conditional requirements for it to happen and a lot of 'noise' from the antagonist (Russia in this case). You were trained specifically to face the threat. It made us resolute and confident.
M A D was possible, but, we knew it had an outside chance of happening. So. You trained, worked hard, and got on with the job. Simples.
Russia was threatening complete destruction every 2 minutes..... we'd just keep calm and carry on.
Barrow, in Cumbria is chosen for nuclear submarines because of it's remoteness from large conurbations as is Sellafield nuclear site. In case of accidents(which DO happen) or the fact that they are a First Target in the event of a nuclear strike.
Yeah, where as the bases on the Clyde are right among towns and villages and around 30 miles (as the crow flies) from Glasgow.
I worked on the submarine at nuclear plant Helensburgh
I grew up in the west coast of Scotland and we were the first to get nuked due to a US submarine base, so we would be screwed, great memories.
A couple of miles away from me is a "Secret bunker". The idea was that local government officials would move in, along with military personnel. It's now a tourist site and very interesting.
Is that the one at Kelvedon Hatch? The brown tourist sign for that used to make us chortle as we passed.
Which one?
I work nr Kidderminster and pass Drakelow Tunnel every day going to work. I keep meaning to buy tickets to go on the tour
Barrow In Furness! I had no idea. It was near where my family originally come from.
Funny if they opened the box to get to the letter and it had been replaced with a cup of tea and a scone 😭😭😭😭
It should be noted that most nuclear reactors generate electricity by heating water to turn turbines. Deriving power from fusion directly is not really a thing. There are nuclear power supplies that are used in space but none of this is used on earth as far as I am aware.
Trump was genuinely surprised the UK had nukes in his first stint as president. Maybe he'll learn some new stuff this time.
I'm sorry but are the Nuclear Codes written in Crayon.
@@atay6413 Trump doesn't get to write them.
He might find out that the French also have Nukes this time.
I know someone who works on those boats.
I live near the nuclear sub base in Scotland so Ive nothing to fear.
I wouldnt know anything or feel anything. It would be over in miliseconds for me and my family and friends.
I'm sure the fact that you're watching videos about nuclear Armageddon on the day of Trump's inauguration is just coincidental.
We all hope.
lots of golf to do, golf needs to be done, and when doing golf, it's the bestest ever golf that's ever been golfed, those people over in Scotch land that invented it would love to be here golfing with me for i am the most amazing golf guy that's ever wore plus fours. golf, we do golf, golf golf golf golf golf.
#please god.
@@scotmax8426
Is "Scotch land" where they make Scotch tapes? Or, Scotch eggs? Or breed the wild Highland haggis? (Or, is that Scotland?)
The US have officially complained about us not sharing the skin and propulsion technology that will make the new subs virtually undetectable
I am reminded that we agreed with the US, to share all nuclear technology with each other. After WW2 the US just gave us the finger instead.
Now the US president is threatening countries and basically the rest of the World who did give a hoot about them. So well done dad for your service, and the UK. As far as this is concerned.
And we are the best at detecting subs too and with trump in power we defo don’t want them to have it
@@corringhamdepot4434 Thats rubbish
@@daboy12sit absolutely isn't rubbish, see 1946 US atomic energy act.
One of my work ex-colleagues was married to a Royal Navy submariner and never knew where he was or when he was coming home next.
When she said putting the toaster down, she would have been better saying unpacking the kettle. In other words, for most people the first thing you unpack when you move house. It is one of those things that shows she is not a native Brit, which of course she isn’t.
Foresight is better than hindsight
I feel like this is the wrong time (or maybe the right mood changer) for a reaction recommendation, but please react to Horrible Histories for an insight in how a lot of us really learnt history growing up! I looked through your channel and have been watching for ages and dont think I've seen you react to it yet.
As long as he doesn't watch all the more recent woke shite, that's trying to teach our children, that black people have always been in this land and were playing important parts in our long history.
The USA had our back until earlier today. Now I very much doubt it.
Biden never had our back at any time and he kept trying to tell us what to do about N.Ireland, even going so far as to claim to be Irish, so we know what kind of US American he was.
The people of the US though, always with us, as we are with them. (except for that little Tea incident they did and where we burnt their house and they had to paint it white to cover it up).
No No you have that backwards we Secure Americas back and if we tell them to get out they have no rear guard.
Having worked for Sperry when I first left school, I happen to know a lot about both the nuclear submarine program and the missiles it carries. The Vanguard class submarines replaced the former swiftsure class. There are Russian submarines operating in the channel and Atlantic but I am not at liberty to reveal.how I know this
The best kept secrets are the well known ones... less digging for the truth...
I mean, these are the things that are announced to the public. Who knows what else.
SWS stands for Strategic Weapon System and each crew does not have over a hundred officers, maybe 30 officers then the rest is made up of none commissioned personnel.
The toaster is just a joke to give you an idea of the new Prime minister moving into downing street and putting some toast on
No, Russia has a defensive ( or maybe, looking at the circumstances of the last three years *had) stance when it comes to nuclear strikes, while the USA allows itself to attack "pre-emptively", which is, in my opinion, enough to sentence anyone who approved it for treason against humanity, which really should be a thing.
i do believe they are replaced and eventuall withdrawn from the sub and sold to canada.
i'm good i learned how to 'duck and cover'
My father sailed on one of the UK early nuclear submarines hms revenge . Sadly he passed 24/ 1/2024 RiP Dad 🫡
the letter of last resort, is to let us lowlifes, get the party started 🎸🎹🥁💃🕺