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You should make your content less bias and more from a neutral perspective. Seems like your emphasizing all of the negatives that led to 50 losing the sales battle, a little too much. To the point where it’s like your making excuses for him. We understand you hold 50 in high regard, but just tell it like it is. Everyone knows Kanye won because his album was simply better and he’s a much better artist. Also his Singles that he put out for his album charted higher than 50’s. So technically Kanye won regardless.
@@tcmb3434 nobody is making excuses I am telling it like it is, 50's singles leaked, videos leaked, he had issues with Jimmy Iovine and Kanye had some trouble too with the VMA's but that's about it. That's the backstory, it ain't an excuse. Like I said at the end of the video, Kanye to me dropped one of the best Hip-Hop albums of all time, and his best album ever. So never taking anything away from Kanye.
I remember being mad as hell that Kanye outsold 50 😂😂. I mean, I was a Kanye fan but I was a 50 FAN. I purchased the Curtis album the first day it came out and purposely did NOT buy Graduation for a few weeks just to make sure I didn’t help Kanye.
Shit I remember feeling the same way, but I was more mad at 50 for putting the bet on the table. I was a kid but I knew people would wanna see him lose just because he did it. That’s why drake stays so friendly
So basicly, everything and everybody was against 50, even his own record label. And he still managed to sell almost 700k 1st week even tho his album was leaked 2 weeks before droping. If Interscope did this man right he would still be on top. His problems with Interscope started even before Curtis, they keep leeking his songs over and over again. It's a shame what's industry doing to rappers.
@@Man_eee Well let's see, by then he had beefs with Ja, Game, Fat Joe and Jadakiss. His beef with Ja started way before he got famous. At one point he wanted to squash it but Ja didn't want to. He told Game not to go against Jay Z as he did. He promised to 50 that he won't do that and as soon as 50 left the country he started talking bullshit about Jay again and that's why 50 was mad at him. Game was bipolar at that time as he confirmed it himself. 50's beef with Fat Joe laststed also from the days before he was famous when 50 took shots at Big Pun in song ''How to rob''. His beef with Jadakiss wasn't even that big to be honest. It was more like competitve thing. Oh and I forgot Buck at that period who acctualy got himself out of G-Unit for his behavior. Everybody know that 50 paid his taxes when he was in deep shit and he was still unloyal to 50. So basicly Interscope started doing wrong to 50 since The Massacre album as they didn't want to promote his singles such as Candy Shop.
@@CashCounter030 and remember that he only gave Introscope profit so there wasn't much leverage as 50 wasn't just taking advances as he didn't even need all that money. When you cant get leverage on a person you either destroy them or people's perception of them.
Exactly, this video is going into dramatic detail to make it seem like it was deeper than what it really was. Entertaining for the audience but bs for logical people who just want to trim the fat and heart the straight shooter portion. 80% of this video could have gone into a biography and not been in a versus thing. But I guess you have to bs your way into making something seem extra dramatic to keep noobs entertained.
He's not going to get that until he's on his way out and then he going to release that I'm pretty sure he already wrote the script for the movie or whatever. Because this dude thinks ahead! And he already have two members if not three other supreme team back at him they felt like supreme himself shouldn't have been back in ja rule and Gotti they should have been back in 50 cent back then
I feel like you should consistently put content on here every month or so with your old style videos like this. I know the podcast is your focus and I feel like content on here could help push the podcast
My podcast never really got in the way of this channel, I started the podcast back in October of last year and was uploading consistently back then just ran into lots of different problems in my personal life and in business. I'm back now though, more content for sure. Thank you for the support.
@@rjayjonezjr.7280 He said that he'll release the next one when he has 10K on Twitter but his follower count has been a stand still for about 4 months. So he's basically keeping us hostage from it.
50 was up against the entire music industry and he still win worldwide. Imagine he had the support Ye had, 50 would have earned Guinness world record for album sales! I admire both Artists though.
Not too sure music was changing anyways and many people were getting tired of 50 even with Em And Dre backing 50 50s overconfidence and starting beefs with many people was making people less interested in 50 yeah
Bro your documentary, the documentaries, the podcast, bro you’re the truth. I’ve been watching your content for years. Please never give up on the greatness that you provide!!
When Kanye won this battle , he proved you didn’t have to be a gangsta to rap , this when he kicked the door open for Wiz Khalifa, J .Cole , Kendrick ;Etc
He proved nothing. Eminem was not gangster, Common was not gangster, Heavy-D, Mc Hammer… many not gangster rappers. Rap had morphed into Hip-Hop by the time Kanye came out. Considering he was on a label with gangsters, no one looked at him as the “not gangster rapper.” The “conscience rap” era is what brought “not gangster rap” music out more. Kanye put out great singles. He made great music. But the title alone “College Drop-Out” was not relatable to most black people who were into rap. So it had to be his talent musically. The best, productions, and lastly his vocals. He was not like a Mac Miller style rapper who had no ties to gangs, selling drugs, or violence. He was very associated with the gangster rap culture. Snoop help Wiz because of the style and marijuana life. J. Cole made himself because he was already known as one of the best underground and ghost writers around. Lupe Fiasco helped J. Cole become more accepted as an artist. Kendrick is 100% a gangster rapper first. No one is like Kanye, he was a producer first. Him “winning” that battle was forgetting about within that month.
Another GREAT Video💯 🔥50 definitely was going against his Label and Jay Z/Def Jam...To me there was no other artist that could compete with 50 besides Kanye or Jay Z as far as music success and 50 was battling both at the same time because Jigga was definitely behind the scenes battling 50...I can't wait to see that 50 Cent vs Jay Z video
Really good video, man. Well done. I think you missed how 50 tried to say he technically didn't lose because he sold more globally, and ended up winning the World Music Award that year for most internationally sold albums. Regardless, been following you since the jump and glad that you're back. Still waiting on that Doctors Advocate documentary.
50 lost to Kanye in four different ways with Kanyes album beat 50s album in terms of nation wide sales, critical acclaim, fan reception, and rating score yeah.
@@matthewmann8969 yeah even I heard the rumors that 50's album sold more internationally at the time. But the natural perception is that 50 lost because they focused on the first week sales in United States, which is what people cared more about as 50 was always known for his high first week sales in US.
50 would’ve been to dangerous to the industry if he stayed being the top artist. He mentioned in later interviews that interscope had copies of his music so to 50 it was obvious where the leak came from. Also at the time 50 only had one more album left in his contact. in my opinion I think that they wanted to devalue him so the renegotiation of his contract would’ve been less. if 50 was consistently doing more than 5 million on the four albums he had with interscope they would’ve had to pay an insane amount for him to resign( think of when rocafella was in that same position after the blueprint dropped. that deal alone saw jay go from 50-80 mill to hundreds of millions). I think that’s the reason why 50 took it so personally because he deserves certain accolades but knows he was sabotaged. His career would’ve been what dreams are made of especially for what he’s been doing after music
also think about it, before I self destruct came with a movie & flopped. How do you go diamond twice, sell 3 mill on the third & flopp on the fourth. it makes no sense
This was a dope one!! Always in depth and can tell a lot of homework was done on your videos!!! I remember going to the music store on my lunch and buying both albums. Graduation is still my favorite album from Kanye
Well thank God someone finally covers this nowadays. I feel as though 50 Cent fans constantly sweep this battle under the rug like it never existed when this battle was sooo monumental for hip hop culture.
Got both albums... he'll I got all their albums.. but being from the the Chi and when Ye ain't wigging out I'm riding with em both! Hope to see more music with em both..
was just watching Kanye on that British TV show where they mention his release date being the same as 50s and I wondered the full story around it and saw this just dropped. such a good video 🐐
WOW! Welcome back bro. You been so much with your podcast shit, that you hardly been posting over here. But glad you're back now. Will be back later to check the video out. Later
@@shawnburks6362 College Dropout>Get Rich Or Die Trying Late Registration>The Massacre Graduation>Curtis Before I Self Destruct>808s And Heartbreak My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy>Animal Ambition
You got to remember, 50 had a lot more "haters" than Kanye, so when they heard 50 will stop making music if he loses you know they all went out and bought Kanyes album just for that fact.
So did Kanye and Kanye got 50 with those light jab disses like "I really like 50 I dont want him to retire after my album sells the most" as well as "50 please dont retire after my album outsells yours please" yeah.
Amazing video as always man. But you should`ve mentioned that Dr. Dre and Eminem were going through extremely rough times with both of them losing someone close to them. Dre lost his son and Em lost his best friend so they both couldn't contribute as much to the album as they did previously. That`s one of the reasons 50 is the executive producer and not Em and Dre cause they wasn't capable atm
Mannn, didn’t you say on your last podcast that the 50 & Jay video would be out the same day?! Either way I appreciate the work that goes into these videos, can’t wait for season 2 of the podcast my brother
I remember thinking 50 would win as 50 was unbeatable and even got Curtis and was shock that people said that. Lost even though he sold more worldwide it changed rap forever and I stopped listening to rap until 2009
Lol. I too thought 50 was gonna win. At the time, he was the hit maker and I Get Money and Ayo Technology were my favorite songs on radio. I was shocked to hear that his album sold 300K less than Kanye's. People switched on 50 real quick lol
@@dwaynejpeterkin I feel like that battle stunted 50's growth in the worst way possible. If 50 had avoided Kanye during that time, he'd probably still be musically relevant in some shape or form.
Man this was hiphop. This battle got me so excited. If 50 cent didn’t have all these issues I wonder how it would of went. We can’t use that excuse because this is how it went. Shit happens! Both albums were great!
Thanks for making this video. I was only 10 at the time of this competition. I remember purchasing the Curtis album on release day & a week later purchasing Graduation. Both great albums. 50 Cent is indeed my favorite rapper of all time.
To me the leaks were so bad to 50, I rem those days when everyone would be on album leaks. That alone must have taken off thousands of sales off his album! I got mad respect for 50 man, I've never seen anything as big as what he did between 2002 - 2005
MAYBE if 50 would go with "The Massacre" it could've been a more fair battle. Graduation is simply one of the best albums oat, personally my favorite Kanye album
if it was The Massacre vs Graduation it won’t even be a battle lol 2005 50 CENT was the biggest nigga on planet Earth 🌏 he sold 1.14 million in 4 days LOL 🤷🏽♂️⚡️
@@matthewmann8969 2003 and 2005 no rapper in history besides Eminem could fuck wit 50 CENT. HipHop never seen something like that and will never see something like that. That’s why they didn’t know how to handle him 🤷🏽♂️
Damn that cnn interview felt deep. His mood...i felt so bad yet he was still able to see light in this negativity. We should all take notes from his strenght and mentality. Always see the positive in life especially in the darkest times. Thats how you move foward.
Here's some info for the 50 Cent vs Jay-Z What Really Happened? video. They did a Freestyle together for a Reebok's commercial, Jay-Z did a freestyle over 50 Cent's song If I Can't on his S. Carter Collection mixtape, Jay-Z featured on 50 Cent's I Get Money Remix and Jay-Z & 50 Cent both featured on Eminem's song called Syllables. Here's the tracks that have disses or mentions How To Rob (By 50 Cent) Your Life's On The Line original version (By 50 Cent) Your Life's On The Line alternate version (By 50 Cent) Hova Song (Intro) (By Jay-Z) It's Hot (Some Like It Hot) (By Jay-Z) Be A Gentleman (By 50 Cent) Streets Is Talking (By Jay-Z) Funk Flex (By 50 Cent) (No Mercy No Fear mixtape) Back Down original version (By 50 Cent) (Kim Osorio said in her book Straight From The Source, that 50 Cent also disses Jay-Z and Cam'ron on this version) Back Down alternate version (By 50 Cent) High All The Time (By 50 Cent) It Is What It Is (By 50 Cent) (G Unit Radio Part 2 International Ballers mixtape) What More Can I Say (By Jay-Z) Piggy Bank (By 50 Cent) I Know You Don't Love Me (By Tony Yayo) What If (By 50 Cent) Jay-Z Skit (G-Unit Radio West Volume 1 LA: Americ*n Wasteland mixtape) Funeral Music (By 50 Cent) fully loaded clip (By 50 Cent) Madison Square Garden Screamfest feat. T-Pain Intro (G Unit Radio 25 Sabrina's Baby Boy mixtape) So Serious (By 50 Cent) Im On It Like That (By 50 Cent) Play This On The Radio (By 50 Cent) A Star Is Born (By Jay-Z) So Disrespectful (By 50 Cent) Flight 187 (By 50 Cent) I Go Off (By Beanie Sigel)
I got too much respect for 50 CENT, he is a strong guy, he had the entire industry against him and he was brave to battle every one without fear. He battle Ja Rule, The Game, Fat Joe, Jadakiss (The Lox), Kanye in a sale battle and his record Label wasn’t helping. It was a beautiful moment in Hip-pop music and I honestly wish we can get those days back in hip_pop.
6:18 Amusment Park was the first single off of the Curtis album and Straight To The Bank was the second. Amusment Park was released on May 8 & Straight To The Bank was released on June 29. Also Jay-Z featured on the I Get Money Remix, Jay-Z said 50 Cent called him to ask for the remix and Jay-Z told him he couldn’t put the remix out until the first week came as Jay-Z didn’t want it to affect any type of numbers. So it came out the 17th of September and yes drop the video for 50 Cent vs Jay-Z
You're looking at Wikipedia data based off the dates you put for releases and those are wrong. Wikipedia dates are just dates of when singles were pushed to radio first, if you Google search those 50 Cent singles and put the time frame from April 2007 till May 2007 you'll see 50 Cent premiered Straight to the Bank on Funkmaster Flex's show on Hot 97 in early April. Also, he premiered both the music videos at the same time towards Mid-May. As far as the Jay-Z I Get Money Remix thing, I didn't really care to put that in as it had more to do with 50 vs Jay-Z which will be on the next video ;)
Bruhhh I dunno why so many dunces liked this comment cuz they sheep, but unless you were very, very young, it's well known that Straight to the Bank was the first single off Curtis and came before Amusement Park. That's like saying I Get Money came out after Ayo Technology even though it's vice versa.
@@bradlee5874 It was a long time ago so whether you were young or not everyone's not going to remember everything. Do you remember every single that came out first from every album back then and the order of all of their singles after. I bet not, the only dunces are those that resort to name calling rather than just saying something without unnecessarily trying to diss others
@@steve-ie6ju well, before you make your claims and try to dissuade others from actual facts, you might as well do some research instead of just basing criteria off of Wikipedia. And yes, I can remember what happened because I was there just like you.
Huge nostalgia vibes. I hope the views and the likes continue to grow because this retrospective was amazing. While I still listen to Graduation regularly, I haven’t played a 50 album in quite some time. I actually went back and listened to Curtis after watching this and it is definitely better than I remember it being.
When you think about it, Kanye is KINDA going through a bit of what 50 went through. Donda leaked including the fact that Drake leaked Life of the Party that Kanye played in Las Vegas listening event. History repeating itself.
Not really because Kanye's core fanbase is simply too large now and been around too long for him to ever 'fall off'. Plus the quality is still there, whereas 50's music had a dip in quality around Curtis (probably due to the fact that his label killed his motivation).
No bullshit yo channel is so informative but it flows so well the way you connect everything is amazing but please drop that Jay z vs 50 video we need it
Kanye vs 50 Years later.... Kanye vs drake . That's how you know Kanye west is good. He may not beat clb numbers, but album creative wise, he hasn't lost it.
@WOLFdeez 420R 50 is still a good artist not gonna lie but he is not the same 50 he was when he came out with his first few albums. That’s when I was a big 50 fan and I was bumping him G-Unit and Games music all the time then he had that game Bulletproof on the original Xbox and I played that all the time and I wore G-Unit clothes too. All the stuff I’m bringing up is because in those times that’s when he was hot and killing it and it seemed like he was the boogie man of the Hip-hop industry because he was beefing with so many artists and had Dre and Eminem in his corner (plus the Unit I almost forgot lol) but I still fuck with 50 a little bit I follow him on IG and everything. I just don’t think he’ll never be as big as he was before because of all these newer artist and cause of the fact music is changing so damn much and people are now listening to all this mumble rap crap.
I love these videos man. Could you do one on the Cage vs Eminem beef maybe? Or one on most of the beefs from around then like the one with ICP? Theres like no videos on these so I'd really appreciate one
Man drop that 50 vs Jay because I need details with both of them are one of my favorite artists. In my opinion I really think hov retired because of 50. Watching 50 in mid 2000s was pure greatness and it’s sad he got blackballed as being the top dog.
It's really weird hearing 'September 11th' mentioned so much in a vid and it not being related to that awful tragedy that day in 2001..I'm not even American so it just goes to show ya that even without the 'never forget' expression that often gets pit alongside it, that awful day will (rightly) never be forgotten. One of those kinda tragedies that everyone seems to remember where they were that day. Sorry for going a little off topic it's good to have ya back, Quake. Blessings to everyone.🙏 Edit-- Lol...the Madison square garden show 😅🤣...Fiddy certainly turned it into an all-star cast! Love him or loathe him he's savagery personified!
Its not uncommon for artist to release of that day, outside of that tragedy alot of hip hop artist like sept 11 for a release date...fun fact its also my brother's bday
Ngl, I was bing watching the channel. Then oddly enough lost access to my gmail acc and couldn't find this channel again, I am so bloody glad that I found it again!
50 was literally untouchable back then. and everybody was jealous. as simple as that. one on one it was nearly impossible to take him down so they all got together and ganged up on him. and the only reason he lost to Kanye is coz he's not an ass kisser, he's a stand-up guy. and between 2002 to 2007 he was the biggest hip-hop artist in the whole world. even bigger than Eminem and Jay Z (street credit-wise not sales-wise). and in his own words "big brother ain't no competition for him".
50 lost to Kanye for a combination or reasons yeah. 1. His music was becoming stale and repetitive. 2. 50 was beefing with many people many of them he started himself aside from Game, Cassidy, And Gza. 3. Kanye was the one to bring up to have a sales battle so Kanye is the one who started this "beef". 4. Em, Dre, And Iovine the former one had Proof die and was depressed and distracted and Dre was busy working with other artists and 50 tried to go against Iovines other artists and 50 was calling himself the boss of Interscope which he was not that title goes to Jimmy Iovine yeah.
Say it louder for the 50 stans who can’t accept the fact that for the first time in a competitive matchup he didn’t win.. with that being said, Curtis was still a solid album (it had a few skipable songs imo) but Graduation was clearly the better album
@@Jon804Official yeah I liked both cds so it was a win/win for me but like you said, Graduation was the better album. In my opinion, 50’s best album was Get Rich or Die Trying.
That and 50 also was having many people dissing him like The Game, Jadakiss, Styles P, Sheek Louch, Fat Joe, Rick Ross, Camron, Nas, Gza, and many more that also played a part Kanye beating 50 just made things even worse for 50 yeah.
@@matthewmann8969 take away The Game & GZA... and ask yourself why exactly were they dissing 50, was it because they threw a shot at 50 or did 50 throw the first Jabs at them & they were just defending themselves ? (also Ross wasnt beefing with 50 during this time)
From what I'm seeing here if 50s album was supported like Kanyes I think he might have won this, Jay made some power moves for Ye . And now I finally understand why 50 been against Jimmy
Don't forget. It's not just Interscope. Practically the whole INDUSTRY was against 50 because of his beefs. As a result, fans of Fat Joe, The Game, The LOX, Nas, Cassidy, etc. were not gonna support him regardless.
@@markmercado89 yep. Even during that time people thought it was Suge who setup Pac to get killed. Pac was the realest ever but alot of people didn't like that and wanted him out.
Great video as always. I bought Curtis during that week and was never a Kanye fan. I think 50 would’ve won if the album didn’t leak, I do remember listening to the clean version at a party weeks before the album came out so 700k is great with those circumstances.
keep it real bruh. Curtis was a trash album and easily one of 50's worst albums. Graduation was by far the better quality album and easily a 8 or 9/10 , music wise
@@eyecontrol4900 that’s true, Curtis was 50’s worst album but I’m not a fan of Kanye and never liked his music so I still rather listen to it all day than any Kanye album
50 Сould've sold over a million copies without all the bs Interscope did, he also said that he should've toured more in the US rather than overseas. That would've boosted album sales.
I know your podcast is the way to go, and I wish you well and I will always watch, but these older style videos will always hit and we all would love them. Keep doing you brother
Ayo Technology was originally titled Ayo Pornography then renamed to Ayo Technology then changed to She Wants it and then finally changed back to Ayo Technology. The title being changed was a request from the label. Also 50 Cent told MTV News that the beat for Ayo Technology was actually for Justin Timberlake. It was something Timbaland had on the side and he gave it to 50 Cent
This is true, i dont think the label helped but it doesnt change the fact the album was weak. I think he was chasing a different sound, the first 2 singles were weak even his flows felt uninspired. Maybe fif took it for granted and didnt put his best foot forward
this hip hop event is pretty much how i consider it "the end of the old school era and the rise of today's new school era" since most of the rappers that blew up after kanye outsold 50 cent (ex. drake, azealia banks, mac miller, tyler the creator, childish gambino, travis scott, die antwoord, hopsin, brockhampton, etc) are still super relevant up to this day while gangsta rap hasn't recovered from it. which is something i didn't liked back then and still don't but eh, it is what it is.
When you really think about. 50 Cent was the Kratos (God of War) for hip hop at the time destroying Zeus (Murder Inc) and his brothers and sisters with ease. A mortal defeating gods who would've thought that would ever happen but it did and that's the beauty of it! An empire falling to the hands of one man.
I got something to add. I vividly remember going to Kmart on Sept 11 hysterical to get them both I ran to the back and their was a big Kanye Billboard cardboard thing that like 200 CDs in it and I'm looking around scanning the place no 50 in sight . I broke out in tears after asking for help their it was one Curtis CD in the hole store my ten year old azz was. Like its rigged right then there new lol. Curtis is my favorite album of my childhood. I just heard Jesus lord off of Donda this is Kanye best work that never would have got if the battle didn't happen. Thanks for the video
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I’m glad you’re back bro
The best 💯👊
Good work on this ▫ looking forward to Jay VS 50 ▪
You should make your content less bias and more from a neutral perspective. Seems like your emphasizing all of the negatives that led to 50 losing the sales battle, a little too much. To the point where it’s like your making excuses for him. We understand you hold 50 in high regard, but just tell it like it is. Everyone knows Kanye won because his album was simply better and he’s a much better artist. Also his Singles that he put out for his album charted higher than 50’s. So technically Kanye won regardless.
@@tcmb3434 nobody is making excuses I am telling it like it is, 50's singles leaked, videos leaked, he had issues with Jimmy Iovine and Kanye had some trouble too with the VMA's but that's about it. That's the backstory, it ain't an excuse. Like I said at the end of the video, Kanye to me dropped one of the best Hip-Hop albums of all time, and his best album ever. So never taking anything away from Kanye.
I remember being mad as hell that Kanye outsold 50 😂😂. I mean, I was a Kanye fan but I was a 50 FAN. I purchased the Curtis album the first day it came out and purposely did NOT buy Graduation for a few weeks just to make sure I didn’t help Kanye.
50 dissed Kanye for interrupting Taylor Swift
Hahahaha yo me too
Haha
Shit I remember feeling the same way, but I was more mad at 50 for putting the bet on the table. I was a kid but I knew people would wanna see him lose just because he did it. That’s why drake stays so friendly
Yea we made sure Ye was beating that nigga lol
Hip hop changed forever because of this. That's how big they both were.
Big facts
So basicly, everything and everybody was against 50, even his own record label. And he still managed to sell almost 700k 1st week even tho his album was leaked 2 weeks before droping. If Interscope did this man right he would still be on top. His problems with Interscope started even before Curtis, they keep leeking his songs over and over again. It's a shame what's industry doing to rappers.
No 50 was against everybody. Yes labels can do you wrong But him beefing with everyone didn't help.
@@Man_eee Well let's see, by then he had beefs with Ja, Game, Fat Joe and Jadakiss. His beef with Ja started way before he got famous. At one point he wanted to squash it but Ja didn't want to. He told Game not to go against Jay Z as he did. He promised to 50 that he won't do that and as soon as 50 left the country he started talking bullshit about Jay again and that's why 50 was mad at him. Game was bipolar at that time as he confirmed it himself. 50's beef with Fat Joe laststed also from the days before he was famous when 50 took shots at Big Pun in song ''How to rob''. His beef with Jadakiss wasn't even that big to be honest. It was more like competitve thing. Oh and I forgot Buck at that period who acctualy got himself out of G-Unit for his behavior. Everybody know that 50 paid his taxes when he was in deep shit and he was still unloyal to 50. So basicly Interscope started doing wrong to 50 since The Massacre album as they didn't want to promote his singles such as Candy Shop.
@@Man_eee but his own label should’ve supported him he made all that money for them
@@CashCounter030 and remember that he only gave Introscope profit so there wasn't much leverage as 50 wasn't just taking advances as he didn't even need all that money. When you cant get leverage on a person you either destroy them or people's perception of them.
Honestly, if Kanye had not changed his album release date to September 11, 50 would have sold 1,000,000+ first week hands down.
What a lot of people don’t know is Kanye and 50 had the same agent at the time. Dropping albums against each other was excellent marketing.
Right.
Exactly, this video is going into dramatic detail to make it seem like it was deeper than what it really was. Entertaining for the audience but bs for logical people who just want to trim the fat and heart the straight shooter portion. 80% of this video could have gone into a biography and not been in a versus thing. But I guess you have to bs your way into making something seem extra dramatic to keep noobs entertained.
@@younglove3362you can’t just watch ?
We need a full story of 50 cent vs supreme
Absolutely! Excellent idea!!
His 50 vs ja rule vids pretty much tell everything about supreme
He's not going to get that until he's on his way out and then he going to release that I'm pretty sure he already wrote the script for the movie or whatever. Because this dude thinks ahead! And he already have two members if not three other supreme team back at him they felt like supreme himself shouldn't have been back in ja rule and Gotti they should have been back in 50 cent back then
The 50 vs Ja video pretty much covers Supreme
@@aidanthomas2510 not really. There’s a lot more between 50 and preme with people like bimmy, black jus and e money bag and etc
I feel like you should consistently put content on here every month or so with your old style videos like this. I know the podcast is your focus and I feel like content on here could help push the podcast
My podcast never really got in the way of this channel, I started the podcast back in October of last year and was uploading consistently back then just ran into lots of different problems in my personal life and in business. I'm back now though, more content for sure. Thank you for the support.
@@DiverseMentality does that include the battle documentaries?
@@DiverseMentality worry not bro we understand, glad ur back tho the semester startin soon lol
@@rjayjonezjr.7280 He said that he'll release the next one when he has 10K on Twitter but his follower count has been a stand still for about 4 months. So he's basically keeping us hostage from it.
@@ajskylesbroflovski2250 well damn
50 was up against the entire music industry and he still win worldwide. Imagine he had the support Ye had, 50 would have earned Guinness world record for album sales!
I admire both Artists though.
Not too sure music was changing anyways and many people were getting tired of 50 even with Em And Dre backing 50 50s overconfidence and starting beefs with many people was making people less interested in 50 yeah
Disagree. By this stage 50 was way outdated, and he's never really been much of a rapper.
Running up on stage made homie look lame asf tho.
@@SardonischerDean you clearly dont know the days before grodt....power of the dollar? all the mixtapes? he was on fire and could rap for sure
@@sverremoe4087 I do. I remember Places To Go. I was a fan years ago, but now I'm just like meh
Man this is sad. Interscope killed 50s love for music.
Pretty much
To be fair if 50 was beefing with less people at the time and did not get such a big head he might of won the sales battle
That’s why Def Jan is better than them
@@matthewmann8969 thank you! People don't see the business aspect of it.
Facts Idk why they kept leaking the singles before the release
Bro your documentary, the documentaries, the podcast, bro you’re the truth. I’ve been watching your content for years. Please never give up on the greatness that you provide!!
When Kanye won this battle , he proved you didn’t have to be a gangsta to rap , this when he kicked the door open for Wiz Khalifa, J .Cole , Kendrick ;Etc
True that Kanye West a G.O.A.T.
This low-key changed the direction of rap music.
That and Curtis was not that good of an album.
He proved nothing. Eminem was not gangster, Common was not gangster, Heavy-D, Mc Hammer… many not gangster rappers. Rap had morphed into Hip-Hop by the time Kanye came out. Considering he was on a label with gangsters, no one looked at him as the “not gangster rapper.” The “conscience rap” era is what brought “not gangster rap” music out more.
Kanye put out great singles. He made great music. But the title alone “College Drop-Out” was not relatable to most black people who were into rap. So it had to be his talent musically. The best, productions, and lastly his vocals.
He was not like a Mac Miller style rapper who had no ties to gangs, selling drugs, or violence. He was very associated with the gangster rap culture.
Snoop help Wiz because of the style and marijuana life. J. Cole made himself because he was already known as one of the best underground and ghost writers around. Lupe Fiasco helped J. Cole become more accepted as an artist. Kendrick is 100% a gangster rapper first.
No one is like Kanye, he was a producer first. Him “winning” that battle was forgetting about within that month.
@@calebhenderson6507you can’t say that when it did almost 700k first week obviously people liked it
The end of gangsta rap and the entry to all ringtone rappers
@Confessions Of A Movie Freak I never said he was
Imagine calling Kanye a ringtone rapper 😒
Haha that's exactly what I was thinking too. Kanye is shit. He destroyed Gangsta rap unfortunately.
@@Baker19911 he is. He ain't no Gangsta.
@@missshady1760 gangsta rap is stupid and for uncivilized people with low IQ who either end up dead or in jail.
Imagine how crazy it would’ve been if 50 had actually brought out Eminem, would’ve been insane lol.
Completely insane. Both Em and Dre, now that would have been historic
bro i would of still brought them out i wouldn't give a fuck i thought 50 would be better
@@tsimilialbert276 ya okay 😂 Dre wasn’t coming out for 50, they wasn’t even cool like that.
The battle was between Kanye and 50, not Eminem.
@@tsimilialbert276 The battle was between Kanye and 50, not Eminem.
Awesome video once again! Can’t wait for that 50 vs Jay video.
Been waiting for a Diverse Mentality video for a min. 🔥🔥💪🏽💪🏽
Another GREAT Video💯 🔥50 definitely was going against his Label and Jay Z/Def Jam...To me there was no other artist that could compete with 50 besides Kanye or Jay Z as far as music success and 50 was battling both at the same time because Jigga was definitely behind the scenes battling 50...I can't wait to see that 50 Cent vs Jay Z video
Really good video, man. Well done. I think you missed how 50 tried to say he technically didn't lose because he sold more globally, and ended up winning the World Music Award that year for most internationally sold albums. Regardless, been following you since the jump and glad that you're back.
Still waiting on that Doctors Advocate documentary.
Bro gayme not big enough for a documentary
50 lost to Kanye in four different ways with Kanyes album beat 50s album in terms of nation wide sales, critical acclaim, fan reception, and rating score yeah.
Same here mann waiting for that documentary too
@@matthewmann8969 yeah even I heard the rumors that 50's album sold more internationally at the time. But the natural perception is that 50 lost because they focused on the first week sales in United States, which is what people cared more about as 50 was always known for his high first week sales in US.
@@bradlee5874 he did 5 mill worldwide around 2008 for Curtis
50 would’ve been to dangerous to the industry if he stayed being the top artist. He mentioned in later interviews that interscope had copies of his music so to 50 it was obvious where the leak came from. Also at the time 50 only had one more album left in his contact. in my opinion I think that they wanted to devalue him so the renegotiation of his contract would’ve been less. if 50 was consistently doing more than 5 million on the four albums he had with interscope they would’ve had to pay an insane amount for him to resign( think of when rocafella was in that same position after the blueprint dropped. that deal alone saw jay go from 50-80 mill to hundreds of millions). I think that’s the reason why 50 took it so personally because he deserves certain accolades but knows he was sabotaged. His career would’ve been what dreams are made of especially for what he’s been doing after music
also think about it, before I self destruct came with a movie & flopped. How do you go diamond twice, sell 3 mill on the third & flopp on the fourth. it makes no sense
@@Anubis-hl6wh 50 hasnt gone diamond once. his first album is currently 9x platinum second album 6xplatinum
@@madd-dogg1096 He’s talking about worldwide Get Rich sold 14 million worldwide and The Massacre sold 11 million worldwide.
They had to Stop hin lol thats not some weak ass noname Drake shit thats fucking 50 CENT!!!
@@legendary9689GRODT has 16 Million now. Massacre has 12.8
This was a dope one!! Always in depth and can tell a lot of homework was done on your videos!!! I remember going to the music store on my lunch and buying both albums. Graduation is still my favorite album from Kanye
At the end of the day Kanye put out a classic and 50 put out a good album Kanye deserved the win
Well thank God someone finally covers this nowadays. I feel as though 50 Cent fans constantly sweep this battle under the rug like it never existed when this battle was sooo monumental for hip hop culture.
True lol kanye was fucked
Got both albums... he'll I got all their albums.. but being from the the Chi and when Ye ain't wigging out I'm riding with em both! Hope to see more music with em both..
was just watching Kanye on that British TV show where they mention his release date being the same as 50s and I wondered the full story around it and saw this just dropped. such a good video 🐐
WOW! Welcome back bro. You been so much with your podcast shit, that you hardly been posting over here. But glad you're back now. Will be back later to check the video out. Later
Today I was listing to both Graduation and Curtis ironically and both albums are really good. I preferred Curtis over The Massacre in my opinion.
I has to disagree; production wise Curtis could have been a better album I feel if it was Massacre up against Graduation 50 would have won.
@@shawnburks6362 College Dropout>Get Rich Or Die Trying
Late Registration>The Massacre
Graduation>Curtis
Before I Self Destruct>808s And Heartbreak
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy>Animal Ambition
@@matthewmann8969 You think BISD was better than 808's I think that was fif's worst album.
@@shawnburks6362 I say it was better then 808s And Heartbreak because there was more rapping and less singing and autotune on it compared to 808s yeah
@@matthewmann8969 nothing Kanye west has made will ever top get rich or die trying. You big tweaking.
You got to remember, 50 had a lot more "haters" than Kanye, so when they heard 50 will stop making music if he loses you know they all went out and bought Kanyes album just for that fact.
people can say what they want but 50 promoted the hell out of this battle lol
Hes like a one man army in this battle..
That is what he does best. Market and promote
So did Kanye and Kanye got 50 with those light jab disses like "I really like 50 I dont want him to retire after my album sells the most" as well as "50 please dont retire after my album outsells yours please" yeah.
Amazing video as always man. But you should`ve mentioned that Dr. Dre and Eminem were going through extremely rough times with both of them losing someone close to them. Dre lost his son and Em lost his best friend so they both couldn't contribute as much to the album as they did previously. That`s one of the reasons 50 is the executive producer and not Em and Dre cause they wasn't capable atm
Dre lost his son in 2008 which was after all this.
Dre never did much for 50
dre didnt really care about 50 though because it was eminem's decision to sign him.
@@turtleanton6539 He did for 50s first two debut albums
Kanye mama died soon after graduation
Man... 2007 was an AMAZING year.
For sure
Finally some quality content I'll make sure to download it and keep it safe for future generations!
I rarely comment on UA-cam videos but you really done an excellent job on this. Really informative and you’ve thoroughly done your research. 🤙🏼
Mannn, didn’t you say on your last podcast that the 50 & Jay video would be out the same day?!
Either way I appreciate the work that goes into these videos, can’t wait for season 2 of the podcast my brother
I remember thinking 50 would win as 50 was unbeatable and even got Curtis and was shock that people said that. Lost even though he sold more worldwide it changed rap forever and I stopped listening to rap until 2009
Fam, are you me?
Lol. I too thought 50 was gonna win. At the time, he was the hit maker and I Get Money and Ayo Technology were my favorite songs on radio. I was shocked to hear that his album sold 300K less than Kanye's. People switched on 50 real quick lol
@@bradlee5874 they didnt want him on top anymore and same those two tracls are the shit even now im still shocked
@@dwaynejpeterkin I feel like that battle stunted 50's growth in the worst way possible. If 50 had avoided Kanye during that time, he'd probably still be musically relevant in some shape or form.
@@bradlee5874 I agree. It become more than competition between to artists. It became a competition for what the 'game' wanted.
Man this was hiphop. This battle got me so excited. If 50 cent didn’t have all these issues I wonder how it would of went. We can’t use that excuse because this is how it went. Shit happens! Both albums were great!
50 cent is hot garbage 🗑 compared to Kanye. Stop
@@Baker19911 idk about that, musically he’s better. Both are amazing overall Artist and business.
@@vetodmp2821 Musically 50's better? You're on crack
@@vetodmp2821 Jesus 😂 he’s not anywhere near Kanye West, wtf have I just read
Nah, part of the other reason for 50's decline, was because that Curtis album was trash.
Glad 50 got #1 in Australia. We love him here :) love you 50!!!! ❤️
Thanks for making this video. I was only 10 at the time of this competition. I remember purchasing the Curtis album on release day & a week later purchasing Graduation. Both great albums. 50 Cent is indeed my favorite rapper of all time.
To me the leaks were so bad to 50, I rem those days when everyone would be on album leaks. That alone must have taken off thousands of sales off his album!
I got mad respect for 50 man, I've never seen anything as big as what he did between 2002 - 2005
How the tf it leaked like it's not the internet era...
Graduation is an all time classic. Curtis was just another gangsta rap album
If only you knew how many times I’ve rewarded these
MAYBE if 50 would go with "The Massacre" it could've been a more fair battle. Graduation is simply one of the best albums oat, personally my favorite Kanye album
if it was The Massacre vs Graduation it won’t even be a battle lol 2005 50 CENT was the biggest nigga on planet Earth 🌏 he sold 1.14 million in 4 days LOL 🤷🏽♂️⚡️
The massacre came out in 05
@@tahkihill6764 I know 💀
2003 was 50 at his biggest actually College Dropout was Kanye at his biggest and I am referring to both sales wise yeah
@@matthewmann8969 2003 and 2005 no rapper in history besides Eminem could fuck wit 50 CENT. HipHop never seen something like that and will never see something like that. That’s why they didn’t know how to handle him 🤷🏽♂️
Damn that cnn interview felt deep. His mood...i felt so bad yet he was still able to see light in this negativity.
We should all take notes from his strenght and mentality. Always see the positive in life especially in the darkest times. Thats how you move foward.
This video makes me respect 50 and Kanye’s eye for music and the music business even more.
Bro u deserver an award man the way you outline and clarify these hip hop beefs is just amazing
Quake back at it again been waiting for a new who really won
Well done man 🔥🔥🔥
I feel like Eminem and Dre should have help behind the scenes to push his album, its under both of their labels so 🤷🏻
Yea but Interscope gets the last say so. Plus they kinda wanted 50 off the label
Proof died. Em lost focus stat quo and bobbycreek got it the worst
Here's some info for the 50 Cent vs Jay-Z What Really Happened? video. They did a Freestyle together for a Reebok's commercial, Jay-Z did a freestyle over 50 Cent's song If I Can't on his S. Carter Collection mixtape, Jay-Z featured on 50 Cent's I Get Money Remix and Jay-Z & 50 Cent both featured on Eminem's song called Syllables. Here's the tracks that have disses or mentions
How To Rob (By 50 Cent)
Your Life's On The Line original version (By 50 Cent)
Your Life's On The Line alternate version (By 50 Cent)
Hova Song (Intro) (By Jay-Z)
It's Hot (Some Like It Hot) (By Jay-Z)
Be A Gentleman (By 50 Cent)
Streets Is Talking (By Jay-Z)
Funk Flex (By 50 Cent) (No Mercy No Fear mixtape)
Back Down original version (By 50 Cent) (Kim Osorio said in her book Straight From The Source, that 50 Cent also disses Jay-Z and Cam'ron on this version)
Back Down alternate version (By 50 Cent)
High All The Time (By 50 Cent)
It Is What It Is (By 50 Cent) (G Unit Radio Part 2 International Ballers mixtape)
What More Can I Say (By Jay-Z)
Piggy Bank (By 50 Cent)
I Know You Don't Love Me (By Tony Yayo)
What If (By 50 Cent)
Jay-Z Skit (G-Unit Radio West Volume 1 LA: Americ*n Wasteland mixtape)
Funeral Music (By 50 Cent)
fully loaded clip (By 50 Cent)
Madison Square Garden Screamfest feat. T-Pain Intro (G Unit Radio 25 Sabrina's Baby Boy mixtape)
So Serious (By 50 Cent)
Im On It Like That (By 50 Cent)
Play This On The Radio (By 50 Cent)
A Star Is Born (By Jay-Z)
So Disrespectful (By 50 Cent)
Flight 187 (By 50 Cent)
I Go Off (By Beanie Sigel)
Thanks... just went through the list... hov had some hits but I like most of 50's tracks on the list.
I hate Piggy Bank
I got too much respect for 50 CENT, he is a strong guy, he had the entire industry against him and he was brave to battle every one without fear. He battle Ja Rule, The Game, Fat Joe, Jadakiss (The Lox), Kanye in a sale battle and his record Label wasn’t helping. It was a beautiful moment in Hip-pop music and I honestly wish we can get those days back in hip_pop.
50 still had Em And Dre on his side and many other a list celebrities working with him yet still lost to Kanye.
@@matthewmann8969kanye is a noname
@@TheSupernr17You must be high on towel pee.
These two young men are the master mind of the INDUSTRY.
Shoutout Quake thanks for the content
6:18 Amusment Park was the first single off of the Curtis album and Straight To The Bank was the second. Amusment Park was released on May 8 & Straight To The Bank was released on June 29. Also Jay-Z featured on the I Get Money Remix, Jay-Z said 50 Cent called him to ask for the remix and Jay-Z told him he couldn’t put the remix out until the first week came as Jay-Z didn’t want it to affect any type of numbers. So it came out the 17th of September and yes drop the video for 50 Cent vs Jay-Z
You're looking at Wikipedia data based off the dates you put for releases and those are wrong. Wikipedia dates are just dates of when singles were pushed to radio first, if you Google search those 50 Cent singles and put the time frame from April 2007 till May 2007 you'll see 50 Cent premiered Straight to the Bank on Funkmaster Flex's show on Hot 97 in early April. Also, he premiered both the music videos at the same time towards Mid-May. As far as the Jay-Z I Get Money Remix thing, I didn't really care to put that in as it had more to do with 50 vs Jay-Z which will be on the next video ;)
Bruhhh I dunno why so many dunces liked this comment cuz they sheep, but unless you were very, very young, it's well known that Straight to the Bank was the first single off Curtis and came before Amusement Park. That's like saying I Get Money came out after Ayo Technology even though it's vice versa.
@@bradlee5874 It was a long time ago so whether you were young or not everyone's not going to remember everything. Do you remember every single that came out first from every album back then and the order of all of their singles after. I bet not, the only dunces are those that resort to name calling rather than just saying something without unnecessarily trying to diss others
@@steve-ie6ju well, before you make your claims and try to dissuade others from actual facts, you might as well do some research instead of just basing criteria off of Wikipedia. And yes, I can remember what happened because I was there just like you.
@@bradlee5874 I had already said that I also saw those dates at other places too when I replied back but for some reason that comment isn't shown
LOVED 50 at the time but Graduation was without a doubt the better album.
Facts, i didnt like Curtis then but it has aged really bad
Huge nostalgia vibes. I hope the views and the likes continue to grow because this retrospective was amazing. While I still listen to Graduation regularly, I haven’t played a 50 album in quite some time. I actually went back and listened to Curtis after watching this and it is definitely better than I remember it being.
When you think about it, Kanye is KINDA going through a bit of what 50 went through. Donda leaked including the fact that Drake leaked Life of the Party that Kanye played in Las Vegas listening event. History repeating itself.
Not really because Kanye's core fanbase is simply too large now and been around too long for him to ever 'fall off'. Plus the quality is still there, whereas 50's music had a dip in quality around Curtis (probably due to the fact that his label killed his motivation).
True but I meant in the sense of the Donda vs CLB. Kanye, like 50 around Curtis, was dealing with album and song leaks
I miss content like this man , where you been at ? Definitely need that 50 vs Jay video !
We missed you! When you’re away I know you’re working on new content thank you
After Kanye outsold 50, that’s when many people felt Gangsta rap died.
Also, this made people understand that rap could be closer to hip Hop, than rap
Outsold? 50 killed him WW
@@TheSupernr17They meant in national sales not planetary numbers that is what there bet was on yeah.
No bullshit yo channel is so informative but it flows so well the way you connect everything is amazing but please drop that Jay z vs 50 video we need it
2 decades in Kanye is still at it going up against the biggest artist of this generation, and still reinventing himself. That’s as hiphop as it gets.
Clb is still trending
@@theskull4666 because drake is played on tik tok and cares more about the numbers not the classics so wait cause donda will age like wine
@@omegits2289 donda is trash em will release an album and it will top donda without any promotion
@@theskull4666 hahahaha nice joke mostly everyone likes Donda so you obviously have bad taste
@@theskull4666 em raps so ass now a days 🤣🤣🤣 y'all em fans the worst. He gotta name drop "6ix9ine" to be relevant...
Kanye vs 50
Years later....
Kanye vs drake .
That's how you know Kanye west is good. He may not beat clb numbers, but album creative wise, he hasn't lost it.
Quake never misses, ever! 🔥 🎯
Yeah we need that 50 vs Jay-Z
50 will get washed
@WOLFdeez 420R 50 is still a good artist not gonna lie but he is not the same 50 he was when he came out with his first few albums. That’s when I was a big 50 fan and I was bumping him G-Unit and Games music all the time then he had that game Bulletproof on the original Xbox and I played that all the time and I wore G-Unit clothes too. All the stuff I’m bringing up is because in those times that’s when he was hot and killing it and it seemed like he was the boogie man of the Hip-hop industry because he was beefing with so many artists and had Dre and Eminem in his corner (plus the Unit I almost forgot lol) but I still fuck with 50 a little bit I follow him on IG and everything. I just don’t think he’ll never be as big as he was before because of all these newer artist and cause of the fact music is changing so damn much and people are now listening to all this mumble rap crap.
I love these videos man. Could you do one on the Cage vs Eminem beef maybe? Or one on most of the beefs from around then like the one with ICP? Theres like no videos on these so I'd really appreciate one
10:48 don't forget 50 performed Straight to the Bank as he walked Floyd Mayweather out during the Mayweather v. De La Hoya bout in May 2007.
Man drop that 50 vs Jay because I need details with both of them are one of my favorite artists. In my opinion I really think hov retired because of 50. Watching 50 in mid 2000s was pure greatness and it’s sad he got blackballed as being the top dog.
The issue is 50 cent wanted to become a billionaire and he had the mindset of becoming a billionaire like his music ceo friends like Jimmy ivoine etc
Finally! Been so keen for another VS video.
It's really weird hearing 'September 11th' mentioned so much in a vid and it not being related to that awful tragedy that day in 2001..I'm not even American so it just goes to show ya that even without the 'never forget' expression that often gets pit alongside it, that awful day will (rightly) never be forgotten. One of those kinda tragedies that everyone seems to remember where they were that day. Sorry for going a little off topic it's good to have ya back, Quake. Blessings to everyone.🙏
Edit-- Lol...the Madison square garden show 😅🤣...Fiddy certainly turned it into an all-star cast! Love him or loathe him he's savagery personified!
Its not uncommon for artist to release of that day, outside of that tragedy alot of hip hop artist like sept 11 for a release date...fun fact its also my brother's bday
Ngl, I was bing watching the channel. Then oddly enough lost access to my gmail acc and couldn't find this channel again, I am so bloody glad that I found it again!
You lyin
50 going back to stage and making jay z upset 🤣🤣 Curtis is a legend bro
These ‘what happened’ videos be the best man 😭💪
50 was literally untouchable back then. and everybody was jealous. as simple as that. one on one it was nearly impossible to take him down so they all got together and ganged up on him. and the only reason he lost to Kanye is coz he's not an ass kisser, he's a stand-up guy. and between 2002 to 2007 he was the biggest hip-hop artist in the whole world. even bigger than Eminem and Jay Z (street credit-wise not sales-wise). and in his own words "big brother ain't no competition for him".
50 lost to Kanye for a combination or reasons yeah.
1. His music was becoming stale and repetitive.
2. 50 was beefing with many people many of them he started himself aside from Game, Cassidy, And Gza.
3. Kanye was the one to bring up to have a sales battle so Kanye is the one who started this "beef".
4. Em, Dre, And Iovine the former one had Proof die and was depressed and distracted and Dre was busy working with other artists and 50 tried to go against Iovines other artists and 50 was calling himself the boss of Interscope which he was not that title goes to Jimmy Iovine yeah.
Thank you for finally dropping this.
That was nothing but fire from those two albums. I just think Kanyes buzz was reaching the peak
I remember buying both of their cds on release day. I think 50 seriously underestimated Ye and that’s what did him in.
Say it louder for the 50 stans who can’t accept the fact that for the first time in a competitive matchup he didn’t win.. with that being said, Curtis was still a solid album (it had a few skipable songs imo) but Graduation was clearly the better album
@@Jon804Official yeah I liked both cds so it was a win/win for me but like you said, Graduation was the better album. In my opinion, 50’s best album was Get Rich or Die Trying.
@@Jon804Official who sold more world wide?
That and 50 also was having many people dissing him like The Game, Jadakiss, Styles P, Sheek Louch, Fat Joe, Rick Ross, Camron, Nas, Gza, and many more that also played a part Kanye beating 50 just made things even worse for 50 yeah.
@@matthewmann8969 take away The Game & GZA... and ask yourself why exactly were they dissing 50, was it because they threw a shot at 50 or did 50 throw the first Jabs at them & they were just defending themselves ? (also Ross wasnt beefing with 50 during this time)
I remember being grade 7 and half the kids had graduation the other half had curtis they really schemed us into buying these lol
Can't wait to see jayZ vs 50..
From what I'm seeing here if 50s album was supported like Kanyes I think he might have won this, Jay made some power moves for Ye . And now I finally understand why 50 been against Jimmy
Don't forget. It's not just Interscope. Practically the whole INDUSTRY was against 50 because of his beefs. As a result, fans of Fat Joe, The Game, The LOX, Nas, Cassidy, etc. were not gonna support him regardless.
@@bradlee5874 I mean you reap what you sow 🤷🏾♂️
@@bradlee5874 Shit reminds me of Pac when every1 was against him.
@@markmercado89 yep. Even during that time people thought it was Suge who setup Pac to get killed. Pac was the realest ever but alot of people didn't like that and wanted him out.
Made me feel like I was back in '07 again. Great job man
Great video as always. I bought Curtis during that week and was never a Kanye fan. I think 50 would’ve won if the album didn’t leak, I do remember listening to the clean version at a party weeks before the album came out so 700k is great with those circumstances.
Yea but that Curtis album didnt hold up, i loved fif i was 19 at the time and couldnt help but feel disappointed in the album
keep it real bruh. Curtis was a trash album and easily one of 50's worst albums. Graduation was by far the better quality album and easily a 8 or 9/10 , music wise
@@eyecontrol4900 that’s true, Curtis was 50’s worst album but I’m not a fan of Kanye and never liked his music so I still rather listen to it all day than any Kanye album
Kanye's CD was much better.
If 50 released his album Curtis in June maybe he would still have a rap career
50 Сould've sold over a million copies without all the bs Interscope did, he also said that he should've toured more in the US rather than overseas. That would've boosted album sales.
Shoutout to both very Successful Black Artist and Entrepreneurs/Business Men🙌🏾!!
Kanye consistently gets his flowers but I Wanna acknowledge that "Curtis" was a great album, it was raw, passionate and aggressive
No he doesn't he is hated on cause he tired of the demons
I know your podcast is the way to go, and I wish you well and I will always watch, but these older style videos will always hit and we all would love them. Keep doing you brother
Bro you making me a die hard 50 fan again feel like I’m in 03 !
“Ultimately the true winner was universal as they both owned interscope and def jam” I couldn’t help but laugh, we all got played like a banjo 😂
Ayo Technology was originally titled Ayo Pornography then renamed to Ayo Technology then changed to She Wants it and then finally changed back to Ayo Technology. The title being changed was a request from the label. Also 50 Cent told MTV News that the beat for Ayo Technology was actually for Justin Timberlake. It was something Timbaland had on the side and he gave it to 50 Cent
Please keep this series coming there is so many more beefs you can cover
He’s been covering a lot
Hey Quake, what's up with "The Game - Doctors Avocate" Documentary? Has it reached Detox status???
Ngl dudes too busy on a podcast that can barely crack 1k views on a good day
Damn Kanye really proved everyone wrong. Classic album too.
Yeah 50 got 2. Kanye has way more then 2.
Kanye was in his prime, while 50's hype and quality was dying, that Curtis album was weak. it just sounded like he didn't care anymore.
Interscope was feeling him it was the Label
@@Danzroo Plus the album sucked, stop just blaming the label.
This is true, i dont think the label helped but it doesnt change the fact the album was weak. I think he was chasing a different sound, the first 2 singles were weak even his flows felt uninspired. Maybe fif took it for granted and didnt put his best foot forward
@@j04370859 if interscope backed him up, everything would have looked better
@@david.v7605 Why are we only just blaming the label? He needed a better album and singles, Straight To The Bank was meh and Amusement Park was trash.
this hip hop event is pretty much how i consider it "the end of the old school era and the rise of today's new school era" since most of the rappers that blew up after kanye outsold 50 cent (ex. drake, azealia banks, mac miller, tyler the creator, childish gambino, travis scott, die antwoord, hopsin, brockhampton, etc) are still super relevant up to this day while gangsta rap hasn't recovered from it. which is something i didn't liked back then and still don't but eh, it is what it is.
When you really think about. 50 Cent was the Kratos (God of War) for hip hop at the time destroying Zeus (Murder Inc) and his brothers and sisters with ease. A mortal defeating gods who would've thought that would ever happen but it did and that's the beauty of it! An empire falling to the hands of one man.
I was happy when Kanye beat 50 in first week sales! This was a great time for hip hop fans!
Why? Because kanye is a noname?
Yessss you back again with these mini documentaries!! 💯💯💪🏾
20:34 Ayyy that's the Pacewon beat! I Declare War. Classic shit. Anyone else know that record up in here?
Nah but will check it out cos u said
This a really good video
I got something to add. I vividly remember going to Kmart on Sept 11 hysterical to get them both I ran to the back and their was a big Kanye Billboard cardboard thing that like 200 CDs in it and I'm looking around scanning the place no 50 in sight . I broke out in tears after asking for help their it was one Curtis CD in the hole store my ten year old azz was. Like its rigged right then there new lol. Curtis is my favorite album of my childhood. I just heard Jesus lord off of Donda this is Kanye best work that never would have got if the battle didn't happen. Thanks for the video
Maybe all of the Curtis CDs were sold out?
thats a lot of work men we appreciate you
Come to think, it was one of the Greatest marketing strategy from both rappers.... I'm more surprised it was 50 idea to begin with...
Amazing content man… deserve a lot more views…