MISTAKE POINTED - Shakhawat H 2 years ago (edited) The start variable is no where in the production rules, expect the first production rule. Then why should we replace the start variable????? "From a source, I have seen that the start variable is replaced only when the start variable exist in other production rules." ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Vyshnavi Vyshu 1 year ago This is wrong mam...bcoz whn the start symbol ki appear on the right side..thn we have to add the new production...s1---->s ... And also..u made a mistake in the step 2..while u r removing the epsilon production A ..we have to substitute epilson where A is present..but u substituted in one place there is another A ..but u forget it.. explained - 3:45 In other place ( first line ) there is already 'a' not need to add again.
Bro , mam is copied from website that's ok, any teacher in the world should refer books and websites to teach the concepts, mam using standard method for the start symbol she eliminate that in unit production , there is no mistake or wrong in it. Then, you mentioned step 2 mistake, even 2nd standard student should tells the answer that redundant shall be removed or no need to write. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ If you think you are genious by finding the mistake, there is no mistake here. Please do not comment like this, by seeing your use less comment ,some student may avoid this channel.
This is wrong ..we use new production S' or S1 when on right hand side there is S but in this ques there is no S in right hand side but still u create new production.
Good day, Priya, thank you very much for taking out time to put these videos out, your series has helped me immensely. however, in an earlier video where you introduced CNF, you explained away a unit production without eliminating it, while in this video, you've shed more light. I do not know how the contradiction can be reconciled, I just thought to point it out. thank you very much once again.
tmrw is my exam .. learnt the concept in just under 10 mins .. while lecturers in my college took whole lot periods to explain them thanx for the help mam 🙏
The start variable is no where in the production rules, expect the first production rule. Then why should we replace the start variable????? "From a source, I have seen that the start variable is replaced only when the start variable exist in other production rules."
If there is s on right hand side.. We have to take s'->s.this is the rule. here there is no need to take s'->s, because there is no s on rhs. May be she is wrong
but after replacing production of B with B then it will not rechable from S symbol then how it is ..,i'am confused can any one please having the soluton why B production is writeen as it is......😅
I had a doubt that why we didnt do removal of useless production. If we does that directly it iwll go to s1-->a,b which is in CNF. We can actually remove useless symbols from there @Education 4u
you didnt explain in line
S --> a | aA | B
why we didnt put null in capital A of that line ?
because it is already having a if we put means it will get like s->a/aA/B/a it is coming 2 times so it needs to put
MISTAKE POINTED -
Shakhawat H
2 years ago (edited)
The start variable is no where in the production rules, expect the first production rule. Then why should we replace the start variable?????
"From a source, I have seen that the start variable is replaced only when the start variable exist in other production rules."
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Vyshnavi Vyshu
1 year ago
This is wrong mam...bcoz whn the start symbol ki appear on the right side..thn we have to add the new production...s1---->s ...
And also..u made a mistake in the step 2..while u r removing the epsilon production A ..we have to substitute epilson where A is present..but u substituted in one place there is another A ..but u forget it..
explained - 3:45 In other place ( first line ) there is already 'a' not need to add again.
No 1 ever cares to read your big paragraph Be short and crisp and point to point
yes, but answer is right .... she just copy the javapoint website notes
Bro , mam is copied from website that's ok, any teacher in the world should refer books and websites to teach the concepts, mam using standard method for the start symbol she eliminate that in unit production , there is no mistake or wrong in it. Then, you mentioned step 2 mistake, even 2nd standard student should tells the answer that redundant shall be removed or no need to write.
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If you think you are genious by finding the mistake, there is no mistake here. Please do not comment like this, by seeing your use less comment ,some student may avoid this channel.
This is wrong ..we use new production S' or S1 when on right hand side there is S but in this ques there is no S in right hand side but still u create new production.
She does not know that
Yup
in neso academy . learnt that new start symbol is to be made if S occurs on some right side. but u said sth different.getting confused
right
Yes dont refer to this
there is no need to define a new start symbol because in RHS there is no S.
isn't it? i had the exact doubt.
I thought the same thing
Shouldn't A be removed since it is non generating symbol?
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Ma'am, isn't S is usless symbol ??
Good day, Priya, thank you very much for taking out time to put these videos out, your series has helped me immensely. however, in an earlier video where you introduced CNF, you explained away a unit production without eliminating it, while in this video, you've shed more light. I do not know how the contradiction can be reconciled, I just thought to point it out. thank you very much once again.
if two terminals comes, that will effect or not mam??
its effect brother ,i think
Thanks ma'am ! Really helpful
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why is S1-> S added i dont think it is necessary because the starting non terminal was not repeated anywhere
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tmrw is my exam .. learnt the concept in just under 10 mins .. while lecturers in my college took whole lot periods to explain them thanx for the help mam 🙏
mam got confused many times so i will also
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U r confused .. U have made simple thing complex to understand . SAD :/
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in 2x speed production sound like protection , i am literally confused at some point
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The correct ans is
S- a/XA/b
A- YB
B- AX/b/a
X- a
Y- XB
What happened to another Aa
So ambiguous method.
What about the repetition in S and So. Aren't we going to remove that.?
very clear concept you teach thank you so much
wf is it?? nothing I understood
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Why we can't replace BB with R ??
how ??
no S on RHS
A->AA is also CNF????
B is not reachable from start so why you didn't remove it?
How A is reachable and from there we get B
Thank you so much for teaching 🥰 vry easy to undrstd all topic
The start variable is no where in the production rules, expect the first production rule. Then why should we replace the start variable?????
"From a source, I have seen that the start variable is replaced only when the start variable exist in other production rules."
Exactly
She copied it from javatpoint
Good explanation mam 👍👍 that's correct one
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Mam please try to write letters short in size so that the entire problem can fit into 2 pages so that there would be no confusion
Abe yaar
exactly
you can create notes while watching.!
@hasan Siddiqui kottaya saathittu video va paaru da soker funda
@@Sympl3535 dude you're in school or what ??
Mam why u changed s1 to s0 mam
Thanku mam.. concept is much more clear in ur lecture comapare to colg lecture
Miss, why we took the new start symbol? is it mandatory? S1-> S
please let me know soon, Thank you
If there is s on right hand side.. We have to take s'->s.this is the rule. here there is no need to take s'->s, because there is no s on rhs. May be she is wrong
@@snehi_05 yes. It's wrong
She Is Doing It As Per Rule But I don't think that matters...
Apply it when there will be S In RHS..
Both Will Be The correct
but after replacing production of B with B then it will not rechable from S symbol then how it is ..,i'am confused can any one please having the soluton why B production is writeen as it is......😅
Because from A you can reach to B
Except for the first step others are correct.
Nice explanation.
In final result you not added So------> Epsilon
when x-.> a then the production we may get is s->X/XA/AX/b which may be not a cnf
X -> a does not mean that a -> X
Thank you so much
VEry good explanation, thank you mam
I had a doubt that why we didnt do removal of useless production. If we does that directly it iwll go to s1-->a,b which is in CNF. We can actually remove useless symbols from there @Education 4u
same question dude
did you find the solution for it ?
@@simarsinghchugh8402 Yes bro, its been long back. We can do that too . Better follow remal of unit, epsilon and useless and then do further
Your r very confident to enough....
super
wrong info yar since S doesnt exist at RHS we can't create new Start symbol
Pura vdo smjh me aane k baad , comments pdhi to glt bta diya , kl paper h mera itna bta do ki yhi method kru ya fail ho jau paper me😂
Ur Step1 is wrong, no need to add new state "S not", else everything is right
What is correct
Nice teaching
Thank you 🙂
GREAT
She is already confused..
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Thankyou
mam you are ther one , make everything easy to understand
I think S-> a| aA | B |S
Good
very well explained and very simple to follow thank you very much
Here A is a useless production .but it is not removed why??
"So" production is not required here...
excellent video
thnks mam❤️
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I want ur help Mam,can u help me?
there's no need of s' i think
A big Thankss To you Mam
Warning Students!!!
Please delete this vedio, because it is wrong we never use S' when S is not appear on the RHS
Baki right hai ya Nahi
Thank you
Thanks madam
THANK sO MUCH MAM
First step is not needed.
U can avoid it
Step -3 mein kuchh samjh hi nahi aaya😐
Step 2 is confusing can anyone explain
for that, you need to learn grammer reduction
Smjh ni aaya😢
couldn't understand what you teach mam...
Mam most of the time you look confused.
thankyou madam
Helpful
Very confusing mam
Guys this answer is incorrect, if anyone wants the right answer, tell me
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She is totally confused
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U r just confusing not expllaninh it properly ratta marna band karo bhai
First step is wrong
simple problem ko itna complex kar diya ki pura mood kharab ho gaya
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Madam start symbol me bhi A ke place pe null put karenge???????
It's so confusing here,
Completely confusing mam
From 9:23, 🙄😢
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Are madam question to likha karo next page pe
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One more example madam
mam hindi me pdhao na plz
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