Curry Precision 3BBC for Cornet: A Brass Bander's Choice? | Mouthpiece Spotlight
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
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Today we do our first-ever review on a product from the Curry company! For years I have heard many good things about Curry mouthpieces, from their affordability to their high performance standards. Today we look at a mouthpiece featuring their "brass band cup," which can give even stubborn modern cornets a hint of that century-old vintage essence: soft, fluffy, and buttery at soft dynamics but shimmery and rich when pushed. Ultimately, I still prefer my Denis Wick 2B and Yamaha 16E, but speaking of stubborn, that's what I am with cornet mouthpieces. For whatever it's worth, my local brass band's repiano player, one of the most prodigious heads in the band, uses the 3BBC to great affect for all of his cornet playing.
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~CHAPTERS~
0:00 Opening remarks
1:04 Specifications
1:48 The BBC cup (vs. others)
4:42 How does the BBC sound?
7:21 How does the BB feel?
9:11 Verdict & conclusions
10:46 Closing remarks
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Curry Precision 3BBC cornet mouthpiece (obviously)
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Thanks for watching, everyone! I know we haven’t had many mouthpiece spotlights over the past couple years, but given my massive collection and ever-pervasive interest in their many minutia, you can expect many more to start rolling out soon!
Ah Valdres! I remember playing that lead part my senior year in high school!
I use a curry 3dc for cornet. It was able to get me to symphonic winds first week of Hs
I’ll bet that DC is great for “symphonic” playing, be it wind ensemble or orchestra. For brass band it would of course be a little thin-sounding but I’m sure there are people who make it work.
Thanks for the in depth video. I agree with what you said and think the way round that is the K&G mouthpiece for cornet. Perhaps you could review in the future.
Thank you for your comment. I’ve never had the opportunity to try a K&G, but I’ll keep an eye out.
I have several brass band friends who now play on a K&G. I would really interested on your opinion with this in regards to Brass band playing. Thanks
I have a K&G 3B and it's really nice. However it does not fit my York Eminence which only seems to take a mouthpiece with the Wick B taper, so I'm playing a 2BW right now.
Great video Samuel!🤗👍👍
Thanks!
You're so welcome!
Love your videos, my friend.
Thanks so much, Rodney!
I have a Curry 3M for my trumpet, and that has been what carried me with my so far first two years of HS.
Nice! I haven’t tried any of their trumpet mouthpieces yet.
Great mouthpieces, Mark Curry really knows what he's doing... my choice when it comes to Curry would be the 600 series in whatever size if there's a suitable cup for what you do - the rim is the same for all sizes, and it's just a really good neutral profile, not too wide, not too flat, no real bite to speak of... it's probably the closest thing you can get today to my holy grail (Al Cass) and if I didn't already have the Cass pieces, I'd be using Curry's
@@SamuelPlaysBrass I truly do recommend that you do! The part of the mouthpiece that touches your lips is different from others, and gives you an insane range.
@@blakeishui9653interesting that you found the rim very different... Curry's standard series (including the 3 rim on your 3m) are based on Bach Mt Vernon C cups, so a 3C in this case.
Awesome video❤
Thank you!
Great video Samuel. I have a 3BBC too, its the best mouthpiece that I had at the moment, but the diameter is a bit wide for me. I was looking for a smaller mouthpiece in diameter, so I got the Yamaha 14e and 11E, but 14E is a little bit wide yet and very thin rim. The Yamaha 11E has a bite so sharp that allows me to play perfect, but just for about 20 min.
Thank you! If I were you, I’d honestly get a BBC in a smaller diameter, like a 5 or 7. I like the Yamaha E series a lot, but they’re not what your top contender should be if comfort of bite is an important factor. Curry rims are unbeatable when it comes to comfort-I don’t like them that much on Bb cornet but when I’m squealing on soprano cornet, I use a Curry 1.5P!
@@SamuelPlaysBrass I have this on my mind Samuel, but I'm afraid these smaller rims from Curry may have different shapes, like Bach. But thank you for the advice.
@@renanrdgz I believe Curry is much more consistent with their rim contours than Bach. You are correct that Bach is notorious for completely changing the feel of a mouthpiece between sizes, but Curry rims tend to all feel more or less the same unless denoted otherwise.
Damn dude, that sounds soooo smooth.
Thanks so much Rob!
I should get two cookies for watching it twice! Once at work, and once at home. ;)@@SamuelPlaysBrass
@@robbicu Another cookie is in order!
I really like the DW 2BW myself. Had a regular 2B as well but sold it on to a bandmate because it wasn't worth keeping both. The W rim isn't for everyone but it seems to give me the support I need for those long BB sessions.
The cup on the 2BW is the same as on the standard 2B, right? I’m definitely more of a narrow-rim guy for the sake of the articulations, but “long BB sessions” is very true… if I could play on wide rims, I probably would.
They seemed the same to me. I found the regular 2B a fraction brighter from my end but probably an imperceptible difference to anyone listening. I assume this is because the 2BW has a little more mass to it because of the rim.
I have a DW 2 Heritage with the standard rim but that mouthpiece is quite a beast! It's lovely for hymns, carols and slow melodies but trying to play pops or marches on it... no thanks!
I think you may be right about the added mass on the rim, and you may also be experiencing a slightly different factor: thinner, sharper rims naturally add clarity and front end to the sound, even if they don't necessarily alter the frequencies present in the tone very much. So if you prefer a softer touch on cornet, the duller attacks of a wider rim can actually help. Another reason for my having said "if I could, I would."
Very likely the case. I find the 2BW just a little softer and sweeter with less brilliant attacks. I definitely don't get 'the hand' from our MD as much with it. I like to pair it with my Yamaha Maestro. The B cup sweetens that horn a little bit in my experience.
I was using a DW 2b in brass band, I sit the same position as you (3rd chair solo cornet), and we got a bunch of stuff passed out this season that was a bit high for me with a 2b. I did a little internet research, and got a Yamaha Pierre Dutot. It seems to have a more U shape, but a little less than a DW2b, and a smaller throat. I'm still getting that soft BBB cornet sound, with more focus, and with a little more ease above the staff. This maybe a mouthpiece that is an option for some.
Good to know! I’d only heard of the Dutot flugelhorn piece. The smaller throat would definitely help with fatigue on long/high practice sessions.
I'm in the same boat regarding the 16E. Not the one but probably among the best (maybe only?) PROPER cornet mouthpieces out there with a $50 price tag.
Bro can you please help me out, what brand is that bronze colored cornet that has those shepherds crooks like a Sop Cornet? I'd love to know if they come in plain silver cause i really dig the Schilke sop look, would be cool if they had Bb cornets like this, also love the vid man! Cornet Bb and Eb sop player here 😊
It’s a Puje Mod 4 made by Brent Peters. You’d have to contact him directly. Strictly speaking it’s still a trumpet, but with shepherd’s crooks and a larger bell throat. He doesn’t usually do silver plating to my understanding. Every instrument I’ve seen him make is raw unfinished brass.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass thanks man! Yeah i was wondering if it was a Cornet because i know hybrids exist like the Corumpet or Flumpet, i was hoping it would be a cornet cause it would be so cool to have a Bb cornet that looks like the Schilke Soprano as i have, i thought it would look nice together, and mabe i'm cursed for wanting this hahahah, but yeah i can imagine it would get some strange looks walking into a brassband with that Puje, esp bc it's actually a trumpet, BD will kick you out in seconds lmao, but by any chance do you know any Bb cornet models that look like this? I've always been playing on my Trusty Besson Sovereign, i truly adore it but i wanted to see if i could get something unique, even if it's only used for solo repertoire 😁
Sadly I've never seen a Bb cornet that has a dual-crook design like that. I guess those hybrids you mentioned are about the closest I've seen to such a thing. I'm sure there are makers who could turn that vision into a reality. Leigh McKinney of Eclipse musical instruments comes to mind, but I think he's pretty swamped with client orders at the moment.
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Have you compared a Bach 6 (no letter designation) to your Dennis Wick 2b? I'd be interested in your impressions.
I have, but I don’t think it’s at all a fair comparison to a DW2B. VERY different mouthpieces for different playing types. Bach’s only cornet size that closely rivals the depth of a DW is their 5V, which I found (a) too narrow for my chops, and (b) a little flat up top due to the fact that Bach’s cornet blanks are too long to stay in tune with that deep of a cup. The no-letter and A cups are relatively deep by trumpet standards, but not in the same ballpark of depth as many traditional British cornet mouthpieces.
With that said, the 6, despite not being my preferred size in either the ID or cup depth sector, is a fun mouthpiece. I hear it was Vincent Bach’s personal choice. For me, it tends towards a dainty, “cutesy” tone. Not enough depth compared to something like my DW2B for serious brass band use, but nice for small musical settings and early cornet literature. Jon Kaplan of the Charlotte Symphony (“Jon Talks Trumpet” here on YT) is a big proponent of the 6 and gets a nice sound out of one.
Curious as to how it came up-is the 6 your weapon of choice on cornet?
@@SamuelPlaysBrass Well, interestingly enough, Jon K. is my trumpet instructor! And he recommended the Bach 6 for my initial foray into cornet, which I just bought about a year ago. But I felt it was a little small (inner diameter) so last month I started looking around for something larger that would still give me that "cornet sound". I play a lot of old literature - Sousa, Grainger, Fillmore, Grafulla and the like; stuff that's appropriate for cornet. My weapon of choice on trumpet is a Wedge 665MDV, which is 16.89mm and like a Bach 1.5C. So I asked Wedge to make me a cornet mouthpiece and it arrived yesterday. It has a plastic/hybrid top with the same diameter, but it seems pretty shallow. It might have improved my endurance slightly over the Bach, but it's too soon to tell. So maybe I'll try the Dennis Wick 2B, which looks pretty deep.
@@doctoraardvark190 How cool! I ought to take a lesson with Jon sometime myself. Do keep an open mind about the Curry DC, VC, and BBC cups. Curry mouthpieces in general are incredibly comfortable and highly customizable. I’d say the 3DC would be a good way to go if you want a near-Bach 1.5 diameter and don’t want to go *too* deep, as one frankly risks doing with the DW2B.
@@SamuelPlaysBrass OK, good recommendation! And it's gotta be cheaper than the Wedge I just got. So I could compare the 3 of them and send one back if need be. Thanks!
@@doctoraardvarkian Hey Samuel, I've been playing on the Curry 3DC for about 10 days now, and I gotta say, I LOVE this mouthpiece! It's so comfortable and - dare I say? - easy to play! Thanks for the recommendation. I had to wait about a month to get one as they were back ordered, but it was well worth the wait. Now . . . do I send back the Wedge? maybe. It was $250 after all.