Multi PCB Stater Vertical wind turbine application would be an interesting setup with these. wonder how much power they could create compared to normal coiled PM generators.
A wonderful basis for a very low powered wind turbine - maybe powering some LED lighting... Stator overheating in any other application seems the obvious concern to me. Good start!
Hello Ben, Thank you for your interest in PCB Stators! And good question about heat, this was one of the first characteristics we had to solve. Checkout this link to read more on ECM's unique heat dissipation method. pcbstator.com/sites/default/files/ECM_Whitepaper_Thermodynamics_0.pdf
I was very impressed with the hammering 🔨 of that wire at the start 👍 I need that motor for my Zero X 😊 PS an estimate please? The current motor is the Mars 0810 but it also uses the Agni and even Perm 132. So what can you do?
Cool! I would be interested in a study comparing this motor to common alternatives in bikes and CNC machines. Power, weight, volume, price, characteristics, all super valuable data to compare with :)
@@Blox117 you are wrong. Not all aplication need high torque. for example compresor and turbocompresor need high RPM and this can be perfect for this aplication like DYSON ventilators.
@@slevinshafel9395 that does not change what he just said, does motor will probably never be strong enough for other that very specific uses were you need something very slim, the only way people will ever use them in a ebike for example is if they become extremely cheap, so much that you buying and plugin like 3 of them in parallel on each wheel and still keep been cheaper than a normal motor
@@Blox117 well it depends, Ai bard said that iron make motor produce much more torque but at lower speeds ( comparing 2 motors with the same pole count but one air core and the other is iron core) i saw a test for that on youtube and its real but i donno about torque ( yet ) another guy built a home made pmaf motor ( sure not as efficient as the one in the video) and still used it on his motorcycle you can search for it its awesome
would be nice to add solar cells and light in motor then can go with liquid magnet, microfluid, liquid superconductors and liquid nitrogen to make antigravity motors
Motor voltage limits are dictated by dielectric breakdown actually. Reducing the amount of dielectric material between wires or using materials with low dielectric constants will lower the voltage. In this case, you'd be right but for the wrong reason. Trying to pack windings on a planar board means that the copper traces need to be placed as closely together as possible. The little number of turns means a weaker magnetic field. You can strengthen it by shoving in more current, but that would overheat the pcb and cause things to melt if you take it too far. So the motor won't have much horsepower compared to similar sized motors made the traditional way.
@@tasa4904 I think in motors and transformers not dielectric but core characteristics matter. Dielectric is responsible for parasitic capacitance, not for magnetic force. Bigger core - more magnetic force, stronger torque, less turns required for the same voltage, but lower speed. In case of coreless motors torque is less important than speed. Such motors are used in ultra fast servos.
@@nchurly When the dielectric breaks down, electricity creates a new shorter path. The rest of the coil stops being energized and the motor further loses torque. With an incomplete coil, you'll need more current to generate the magnetic field for the necessary torque. It'll overheat quickly. Speed doesn't need horsepower but you do need a minimum amount of torque if there's a load attached.
@@nchurly Ah. Got it. Instead of what I said earlier about determining the voltage limits, you can instead assume that I'm pushing the point that the voltage is actually just a suggestion. They can claim that it's a 12V motor but you can probably run it at 15V with no issues. The inverse is true too. As long as the motor runs, the stated amount doesn't necessarily mean the minimum voltage amount. Having few windings with a low voltage might not generate enough torque to turn even an unloaded shaft. It might work though, since less windings means a shorter wire which means less resistance. You can get more current as a result from the given voltage.
Any figures with this you can talk all you want but if it ain't moving anything how do we know it works. Sorry for being negative but the reality is there's a reality and we need these to work so where are they and what are they in now. Maybe I've just been living under a rock and haven't seen anything with these motors in it? Keep striving tho if there's something there!
Hello @iamgadgetboy , Thank you for taking the time to watch our video and for your feedback! We will strive to include more real world examples in our next videos. For now, please visit our website or reach out to info@pcbstator.com to learn more about real world PCB Stator applications. You can also design your own custom PCB Stator motor on our website! pcbstator.com/design-your-own/
Gimemoney is in all its glory. You could change a music or a text to mimic to something else. Because world already has an immunity to "change the World" videos.
Have a nice day; My name is Mehmet Ali Kurt. I am a student at Sivas Science and Technology University. In the province of Sivas, Turkey. I watched the video about axial flux electric motors. I have been doing research in this area for months. I am a university student doing postgraduate studies. I request your FEA support to use your name in my works and to improve myself. I am writing to you because I learned that the animations in the video belong to you. The video link is attached. The subject of my thesis is 'Investigation of axial flux motors and comparison of torque-weight value for use in aircraft with existing systems'. I need your ideas and suggestions for the resources and technical drawings that I will benefit from in this study. Thank you for your attention, I wish you good work. Mehmet Ali KURT Greetings from Turkey.
You Turks are such great guys, but you are as simple as a hole in this engine. Give me the drawings, documentation, but don’t you want some baklava?😂😂😂
И сколько меди от общего веса. Короче хрень вы придумали, магниты способны до 1.5тл выдавать, а эти смешные катушечки вообще ничтожно мало. Если даже накачивать током, перегреется и сгорит. Но я знаю решение
@@johntuffy5721 it's lot more poison appears due to producing electricity and li-on batteries, also can you say how these batteries are utilized? Li-on batteries more dangerous, expensive in using, expensive in replacement.
It's possible to achieve 99.99......% efficiency but "free energy" is merely a concept. A goal that the most optimistic energy engineers strive to achieve one day, yet not even celestial are able to do this, as it doesn't abide by the laws of conservation of energy, which has yet to be proven incorrect by so call "free energy"
Based on what info? And also, they DIDN'T know why, the resources "the guys of the past" had at their time was not as advanced as the ones that exist today. They're not fortune tellers, or sages, or Dr Strange. They simply didn't have enough information
Lol the guys of past did not the invention of century (aka semiconductor devices / low size electronic) the very first low size transistor was mass produced in 1964 and sooner the smaller size computer and eventually in 90s Toyota prius started the EV revolution again. And we are just evolving in the EV tech after that
@CarlBugeja Have you seen these?
Multi PCB Stater Vertical wind turbine application would be an interesting setup with these. wonder how much power they could create compared to normal coiled PM generators.
super nice!! super game changer!! gota try 1 !! good luck!! oh, Boston! hey, just right up the road!!
Is it possible to make induction motors this way? Induction motors are commonly used in cars because of their high efficiency while cruising
A wonderful basis for a very low powered wind turbine - maybe powering some LED lighting... Stator overheating in any other application seems the obvious concern to me. Good start!
Hello Ben, Thank you for your interest in PCB Stators! And good question about heat, this was one of the first characteristics we had to solve. Checkout this link to read more on ECM's unique heat dissipation method.
pcbstator.com/sites/default/files/ECM_Whitepaper_Thermodynamics_0.pdf
1970 CB 750E. Used oil bath for cooling its charging system, which is a stator.
I was very impressed with the hammering 🔨 of that wire at the start 👍
I need that motor for my Zero X 😊
PS an estimate please?
The current motor is the Mars 0810 but it also uses the Agni and even Perm 132.
So what can you do?
can you design a hybrid motor axial and radial flux motor for much torque and power as used in koeniqsegg car...
does the power depend on the structural density of the printed circuit board? That is, weak?
Cool! I would be interested in a study comparing this motor to common alternatives in bikes and CNC machines. Power, weight, volume, price, characteristics, all super valuable data to compare with :)
low torque since they have no iron core so the magnetic field is not localized. so basically a worse motor
@@Blox117 you are wrong. Not all aplication need high torque. for example compresor and turbocompresor need high RPM and this can be perfect for this aplication like DYSON ventilators.
@@slevinshafel9395 that does not change what he just said, does motor will probably never be strong enough for other that very specific uses were you need something very slim, the only way people will ever use them in a ebike for example is if they become extremely cheap, so much that you buying and plugin like 3 of them in parallel on each wheel and still keep been cheaper than a normal motor
@@Blox117 well it depends, Ai bard said that iron make motor produce much more torque but at lower speeds ( comparing 2 motors with the same pole count but one air core and the other is iron core) i saw a test for that on youtube and its real but i donno about torque ( yet )
another guy built a home made pmaf motor ( sure not as efficient as the one in the video) and still used it on his motorcycle you can search for it its awesome
Totally cool! Thinking a electric motorcycle is the way to go for a quick spin around the countryside.
What about torque?
They have good torque but they can't handle too much stress which is a problem for big pcb motors
I wonder if they have an option for LTCC PCBs...
2:04 model ? Days?
On paper?
Virtual? Design?actual?
Can you desgin this pcb for my motor ?
That's cool 😎
Very interesting. Might make for a great kid kart motor design. Watching.
Perfect 👍👌👏
I have missed how much the software costs.
You developed software developing motor ? Like maxwell/ MOTORCAD ?
Wow amazing pcb motor.
Hey l am exited could I drive a car on this motor design say 150 hp providing we can find a suitable battery
I meant to say motorcar
Hola! como puedo comunicarme con ustedes?
Hasta que potencia se puede lograr?
Como podría comunicarme con usted?
They can work on harddisc motors , size is 100 mm ...
Hola donde lo puedo comprar y cuál es el costo?
No cooling ability?
1:44
system around motor ⬅️Not best
Motor around system⬅️ best
this can't be as powerful as traditional designs, right?
sure, is innovative and everybody wants free energy
i like have new type of motors. but i am worry it dont get enoght powerfull. Because of heat disipation
1:49 1:56⬅️real motor??
Most motors seen(mine eye)(which have seen a number) in 7 seconds .
would be nice to add solar cells and light in motor then can go with liquid magnet, microfluid, liquid superconductors and liquid nitrogen to make antigravity motors
PCB starter motor it never give high torque comparing to coil type...but it has lot of advantage...
little number of turns means very low voltage i suppose?
Motor voltage limits are dictated by dielectric breakdown actually. Reducing the amount of dielectric material between wires or using materials with low dielectric constants will lower the voltage.
In this case, you'd be right but for the wrong reason. Trying to pack windings on a planar board means that the copper traces need to be placed as closely together as possible.
The little number of turns means a weaker magnetic field. You can strengthen it by shoving in more current, but that would overheat the pcb and cause things to melt if you take it too far. So the motor won't have much horsepower compared to similar sized motors made the traditional way.
@@tasa4904 I think in motors and transformers not dielectric but core characteristics matter. Dielectric is responsible for parasitic capacitance, not for magnetic force. Bigger core - more magnetic force, stronger torque, less turns required for the same voltage, but lower speed. In case of coreless motors torque is less important than speed. Such motors are used in ultra fast servos.
@@nchurly When the dielectric breaks down, electricity creates a new shorter path. The rest of the coil stops being energized and the motor further loses torque.
With an incomplete coil, you'll need more current to generate the magnetic field for the necessary torque. It'll overheat quickly.
Speed doesn't need horsepower but you do need a minimum amount of torque if there's a load attached.
@@tasa4904 When the dielectric breaks down then motor fails and must be replaced to prevent fire. I was talking about normal operation.
@@nchurly Ah. Got it. Instead of what I said earlier about determining the voltage limits, you can instead assume that I'm pushing the point that the voltage is actually just a suggestion.
They can claim that it's a 12V motor but you can probably run it at 15V with no issues. The inverse is true too. As long as the motor runs, the stated amount doesn't necessarily mean the minimum voltage amount.
Having few windings with a low voltage might not generate enough torque to turn even an unloaded shaft. It might work though, since less windings means a shorter wire which means less resistance. You can get more current as a result from the given voltage.
carl bugeja ?
I'm definitely not supposed to be here but God damn I want this for my RC badly😂😂
Any figures with this you can talk all you want but if it ain't moving anything how do we know it works. Sorry for being negative but the reality is there's a reality and we need these to work so where are they and what are they in now. Maybe I've just been living under a rock and haven't seen anything with these motors in it? Keep striving tho if there's something there!
Hello @iamgadgetboy , Thank you for taking the time to watch our video and for your feedback! We will strive to include more real world examples in our next videos. For now, please visit our website or reach out to info@pcbstator.com to learn more about real world PCB Stator applications. You can also design your own custom PCB Stator motor on our website! pcbstator.com/design-your-own/
3500 rpm pcb stator w/ universal bolt circles to integrate @ the rear diff.
Make some good nanotechnology and ninja spacesuits
Do you have the ability to build these motors with magnetic levitating bearings?
that is a HORRIBLE idea
@@Blox117 they are ready do
well, put it in a spaceship🚀
I was thinking free energy antigravity motors
i want one
I need one
Gimemoney is in all its glory. You could change a music or a text to mimic to something else. Because world already has an immunity to "change the World" videos.
Patent this strongly.
If you have FreeCAD, you don't need any Electric Motor Design Software at all.
And yes, it's free!
Have a nice day;
My name is Mehmet Ali Kurt. I am a student at Sivas Science and Technology University. In the province of Sivas, Turkey. I watched the video about axial flux electric motors. I have been doing research in this area for months. I am a university student doing postgraduate studies.
I request your FEA support to use your name in my works and to improve myself. I am writing to you because I learned that the animations in the video belong to you. The video link is attached.
The subject of my thesis is 'Investigation of axial flux motors and comparison of torque-weight value for use in aircraft with
existing systems'.
I need your ideas and suggestions for the resources and technical drawings that I will benefit from in this study.
Thank you for your attention, I wish you good work.
Mehmet Ali KURT
Greetings from Turkey.
You Turks are such great guys, but you are as simple as a hole in this engine. Give me the drawings, documentation, but don’t you want some baklava?😂😂😂
So it seems that you're employing three or four robots to read stuff from a script.
И сколько меди от общего веса. Короче хрень вы придумали, магниты способны до 1.5тл выдавать, а эти смешные катушечки вообще ничтожно мало. Если даже накачивать током, перегреется и сгорит. Но я знаю решение
Axial FLux
I am a Chevy 305 guy .
ah yes ... an oxygen sucking , poison spewing infernal combustion engine that is destroying the atmosphere we all breathe.
@@johntuffy5721 it's lot more poison appears due to producing electricity and li-on batteries, also can you say how these batteries are utilized? Li-on batteries more dangerous, expensive in using, expensive in replacement.
I have a simple free energy device that works .
liar
It's possible to achieve 99.99......% efficiency but "free energy" is merely a concept. A goal that the most optimistic energy engineers strive to achieve one day, yet not even celestial are able to do this, as it doesn't abide by the laws of conservation of energy, which has yet to be proven incorrect by so call "free energy"
Women☕
There is a reason electrical cars are no good , the guys of the past knew y
liar
Based on what info? And also, they DIDN'T know why, the resources "the guys of the past" had at their time was not as advanced as the ones that exist today. They're not fortune tellers, or sages, or Dr Strange. They simply didn't have enough information
Lol the guys of past did not the invention of century (aka semiconductor devices / low size electronic) the very first low size transistor was mass produced in 1964 and sooner the smaller size computer and eventually in 90s Toyota prius started the EV revolution again. And we are just evolving in the EV tech after that
I am not a fan of these new cars , even wen they start getting 700 miles a charge.
fool
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