Dot's Homophobia | EastEnders
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- Barry Clark opens up to Dot about the nature of his relationship with Colin, and is shocked to encounter her angry reaction. Shocking clip from EastEnders, broadcast in 1987. Deals with adult themes. Subscribe: bit.ly/2NKkb2U
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"What about lesbians........."
"Well God's probably got a plan up his sleeve for them" 🤣🤣🤣
Yeah like lesbian bed death
And higher rates of domestic violence than in straight relationships
„He“ has indeed. It’s called flannel. Horribile visu!
Rest in peace June Brown. Job well done in life and career. You took a small role as a meddlesome gossip and turned it into an iconic and much loved character.
Yes fr RIP
she was 95, can you not believe that?! But she’s in a better place, Heaven, god and Jesus will look after her.
SHE DIED?! Awwww. :(
@@C.Church Nooo, she's still alive but retired the character. She's moved to another country and she's in good health.
@@BroskiRIP OH! What a relief. 😂
lol the way she got scared when she realized he was gay
Still scares me as well 😄
@@richard7645 if someone scares you for being who they are you must have bad social anxiety. I recommend anti depressants 😀
Rest In peace June what a legend
@@richard7645
Keep your back against the wall lads 😂😂😂.
She wasn't scared. She was disgusted.
My nan’s reaction to me telling her I was gay was: “I could always tell you were wired differently. Your brother is so ordinary,” which left me more offended for my brother than me. Thankfully, I didn’t get a reaction like Dot’s.
Oh my: your nan is straight _savage_ in this piece, boyee!......
That's actually adorable! ^^
Your nan sounds sound
God, heal this man.
@@THISISLolesh he doesn't need healing
This was ground breaking at the time.
For a young guy still trying to come to terms with his own sexuality, Colin and Barry portrayed gay men as normal everyday blokes who people generally accepted and did not make fun of. This had not been the norm until then.
The comments about AIDS where unfortunately true to life. It was a daily discussion point and ignorance and poor education was rife.
The irony in this scene is that June Brown could not have been more different. She was a champion of the gay community and supported many charities.
I will live the rest of my days fondly remembering this period in Eastenders like I have done for the last 30 plus years.
The BBC,the production team, the cast and of course June did something special and touching and can never be thanked enough.
🙏❤
What’s this about ignorance and poor education? AIDS was most commonly spread through anal sex and drug users who shared needles.
Very well put and 100% correct
23 year old trans woman here.
It fascinates me that (at least from my reading) she's clearly written to be wrong, though I'm sure the gay panic was period appropriate she blindly follows her faith and doesn't even have a rebuttal to the lesbians comment. The show doesn't challenge these views, but it doesn't exaggerate them or shy away from showing this interaction as between two grown adults who have a fundamental disagreement. I'm almost tempted to go back and watch this relationship develop.
I'd never have considered EastEnders a progressive show before but this certainly seems like a good portrayal from what I've heard about this period of our history.
@@RachelWolfe It's nothing new that television was used progressive ways. It seems to have been forgotten and assumed that we are only doing this now. But it has been that way for many, many decades.
@@RachelWolfe she comes around in the end. The producers allowed the viewers to witness her reasoning and transformation rather than tell them what they should think
The deleted scene was actually
" Oh Barry you old fruit ,you're telling me that you and Colin are a pair of wooly woofters riding the marmite motorway all the way to bournville boulevard?"
I love your profile picture and username
@@crumblestheclown haha a fellow league of gentlemen fan ?
I was just about to say this sounds like League of Gentleman then isaw your profile 🤣
@Jamal Ramadan havent you heard theyve changed the name? Its now called Arrogance
@@modotd3885 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
She was so completely different to the character she’d played in EastEnders. Brilliant actress. RIP
actually the best actors are very similar to the characters they play! good acting isn't about being "someone else" but about being yourself in different situations.... that's what makes it authentic and believable!.... This is just Pantomime acting
@@guistmagik2506 She basically is the character here. The actual reality of hiv was so horrible the biggest thing the character is doing here is basically alleviating the situation at all by giving it a voice and a context.
@@guistmagik2506 yes and no. Some actors end up just playing themselves in everything they are in. I wouldn't say these are the best actors. It's a limitation.
Actually. She wasn't nice in person.
@@aquak9 Why would you say that?
June couldn’t have been any more different from Dot. Had the pleasure to dance with June at G-A-Y back in the 90s. RIP June 💓
I prefer Dot. Ever seen June on This Is Your Life with that actor with that old man boyfriend? She was a pain.
@@therespectedlex9794 don’t be so disrespectful. she’s just passed, keep it to yourself
think you’re half mistaken, she was a mad, mad tory.
@@issyxox8416 Too soon? Heads back in the sand then eh. Yet people say I need to grow up.
@@ph34551 Yeah, and we know what they sang when Thatcher died.
it's the way she looks visibly scared and threatened by the prospect of the 'lesbian'
They’re really good at football mate
Absolutely disgraceful.
That spin dryer can be opened while the drum is still turning.
Have you ever used a spin dryer at the laundrette?
@@ellthompson No. I grew up with handwashing everything. We had one of the last gas fired dolly tubs. 1960s.
You can just open the doors even if they're spinning? Good grief.
@@zacmumblethunder7466 Fair enough. While the door is closed and there’s money in the machine it’ll spin. Opening the door allows you to pause your paid timer and check on the clothes. In the vid you can actually see the spin slow down after he opened it.
@@ellthompson Thanks. For some reason we had a non functioning Bendix washer dryer in half the kitchen, that I think my father had acquired with the intention of fixing up. My mother used to roll pastry on it and I used to press the buttons and spin the dials while quoting that week's Space 1999.
Dot was supposed to be 49 here. The actress playing her, June Brown, was 60.
She defiantly looked 60
She smokes a lot, that must've aged her, I'm honestly surprised she's still alive.
Jessie 992 Smoking doesn't always kill you, it depends on how it affects your body.
And she’s 90 now
DGJ P She’s nearly 92 now and still playing Dot she has a big storyline soon with Dr Legg
"I drunk a cup of coffee out of your flask!" LOOL, it's laughable now but I guess back then people generally thought like this.
In 1991 Arthur Fowler was shown painstakingly sterilising all of his son Mark’s cutlery when Mark revealed he had HIV.
@@joshcomedy5119
People always have crazy ideas about things that have no impact on them
People still do
@@joshcomedy5119 There was also the scene in the pub when Mark said to Grant that the beer tasted off, and suggested Grant taste it. In the end he got (pregnant) Tiffany to taste it instead!
@@lordmaximus780 filthy fowler. Phil had his way with lisa while he was outside selling his vegetables.
Recorded in 1987
*recommended in 2019*
Sooo
Also 2021
I’m here way too late
Recommend in 2022
I don’t think UA-cam was about in 1987
If you remember, Dot eventually came around and challenged her own prejudices. Her beliefs in this scene were common held beliefs at the time. If they'd have wrote her as immediately accepting and tolerant the public would have not resonated with her and probably turned their TV sets off in protest. However, the producers allowed the public to witness her transformation and probably helped millions of viewers make the same mental leap. We used to be much more clever than we are now. And tolerant.
Agree totally except I don’t think we used to be more tolerant, hence the existence of dot’s previously normalized homophobia
No people have just remained stupid
I'm more offended by his tiny headphones that his sexual orientation.
I’ve got an old pair of Sonys like those and they’re louder than most of todays headphones
These days you get buried in your headphones & with headphones that are normal size dumb Hip Hop boys will wear them on their temples as if the sound waves will transmit directly to their rotten TRT infested ego brains.
I love this scene. It is so "vintage". The surprise on Dot's face and her reaction to Barry story. Priceless and sooooo ridiculous. Love it.
@@seansweeney8911 exactly. Let's not forget that this was before the internet. People relied on newspapers, TV and radio to tell them about the world.
If the BBC news were to report on the aids pandemic among gay people, then you would assume it was a gay disease.
Dot was also very religious, and the bible is homophobic. So she has this picture in her head of what gays are, and how they're 'sinning'.
Then she's having a nice cup of tea with a nice young man who's her neighbour and who she gets on with really well, and suddenly he turns out to be gay.
@@seansweeney8911 the only whitewashing was 2000-1600 years ago, early Christians telling West Europeans to stop tolerating homosexuality. Homophobia wasn't normal until then.
@@seansweeney8911 Around 10% of almost all mammals are gay, including humans. Read up on biology, and just get the fuck over it.
@@seansweeney8911 ??
They are bringing back these storylines with Ben, the thuggish hooligan who we are supposed to sympathise with. The character in this scene seem a lot nicer. There was a lot more decent people in the 60s-80s. Now they are just thugs who somehow make bank on their stalls of cheaply made goods.
the one thing I loved about Dot was she did have moments like this when she was wrong, and a little light comes on inside her and suddenly she sees the error and corrects it. Which she did in eventually. An amazing actress RIP
But she wasn't wrong. Her reaction was spot on and she shouldn't have changed it to please morons like you.
Woah Dot's voice is way higher here!
probably has to do with all that smoking she does
Sherrilee Bryan also as you get older like everything else your vocal muscles age. That's why your voice gets deeper also, but her smoking hasn't helped either on top of that.
Its deepened alot now but she isn't that husky.
@@sherrileebryan9918 Yes, the late Anne Kirkbride (Ex-Diedre) Coronation Street also was a Heavy Smoker as well. It's amazing to see UK Actors can Smoke but in the US Smoking wasn't allowed.
'Well, I don't know about them.....I expect God's got something else up his sleeve for them.' Priceless. 😁😁😁
The idea of God having 'something up his sleeve' for lesbians, haha
its true read. the old testament
Oh, piss off, you loser
Lesbian pride & god is fake ☠️
Lol don't worry the humour wasn't lost on all of us.
YK The Old Testament is silent on lesbianism, the whole bible is silent on orientation, but focuses on behaviours instead, not that that stops lazy literalism and skimming of the Bible to support and reinforce prejudices.
Brilliant acting by June Brown to depict attitudes that were all too common in the 1980s. It must have been all the more difficult for her because in real life she was a strong supporter of gay rights.
The same attitudes those on the right are trying to resurrect. They need to stay in the past where they belong. Fortunately this is only acting, but too many people use religion as an excuse for their bigotry.
🤮
@@dangranet7621 Grow up.
@@dangranet7621 😂😂
Long lost values. Now look where we are in society 🙈
I’m so sorry to hear that we’ve lost June brown today aged 95 everyone and dot cotton will be missed by that legendary actress after 3 decades on eastenders
She sucked.
Crazy that she’s still in Eastenders at 91
Ayesha she’s resigned today😂
RIP Dot 1985-2020
Awh she’s an original character it’s sad she’s not in it anymore
@@life_seeker6102 did her character die off-screen?
@@mavisusername im a year late but nah, not yet at least
just be a good, kind, honest, person and nothing else should matter, gay/straight/white/black/boy/girl/old/young/religious/athiest/and anything in between... No-one chooses to be one or the other but we are all the same...Human beings. So let's start treating each-other like it shall we?
Interesting that June Brown was such an advocate for the Gay community for decades. RIP to a legend!
Dot Cotton hated them though.
That was Forced. She played it, so she didn't get Cancelled.
@@eggplantunleashed4740 cancelled? she was born in the 1920's....anyone born from 1920-1990 do not know about being cancelled. lol
@@jameswiggle Didn't used to know about being cancelled. Therefore could be more likely to be out naivety, because these things weren't an issue, and we didn't have internet either. Or the opposite, out of good common sense, because it should be nobody's business what you want to say.
@@therespectedlex9794
Actually in recent years, Dot became more accepting of the gay community. She attended Colin's wedding with another man.
Stopped watching Eastenders years ago, probably in the late 90s, but I will never forget the original characters like Dot, Phil Grant, Peggy, Frank, Tiffany, Sonia, Jamie, Kat Slater, Pat, Ethel, Bianca, Ian, Sharon etc, that was when Eastenders was PHENOMENAL !! Think I'm showing my age now lol.
Cheers 👍
Dot was a real fleshed out character, with the cigarette she always smoked packets of. She stood as her own person. Trying to believe the good in people and trying let foreigners into her house to live as the council taxed with a fine. She always tried to see the good in people and get by. She was inbetween both worlds of the old and new eras of the times. Conflicted perhaps by steaded tides, sailing where she went. We will miss you ❤
She was a homophobe though
As a straight young lad at the time I remember the Mark Flower HIV storyline was huge at the time and really educated the public.
People have very short memories. People are shocked. I’m a child of the 80s and can assure you Dot was mainstream. Homophobia was normal, contributing to a climate of fear and causing many of my generation to come out late in their 20s.
I agree wholeheartedly! I'm a child of the 80s myself but it wasn't until mid 2014 that I started to come out to very close friends and by the Summer of 2015 that I started to come out to everyone else. I'm a bisexual and was nearly 36. Looking back I'm glad I did. I was still "in the closet" (if you like) and was hesitant about coming out up until that time. This episode was obviously in 1987 when AIDS and HIV were still believed to be a largely "homosexual" thing or as a result of promiscuous behaviour et, all and Dot was of a certain generation. The episode was of it's time.
In 1997, the actor who played Willy Roper, was described as going on holiday with his "lifelong companion". People forget how much attitudes have shifted in the last decade.
People don’t have short memories, and I don’t see commenters who are shocked by the clip. Any reasonable person remembers and knows that this was how things were, I’m a child of the 00s and even people younger than be know this. The only “shock” is how ridiculous the views in this scene are in Current Year. It’s not ignorant to gawk at how bad things were and how accepted it was to talk like that.
Yet he was such a nice boy wasn't he. No trouble from him.
🤮 some really warped people now days ! In the end times degenerates will be idolised
As a gay man I found this absolutely hilarious, she was a once in a generation actress that will never be forgotten. RIP June ❤
I loved it! Also, the past must never be forgotten regardless of what we think of it.
You must be too busy being quare with your sporty friends to get upset!!
Remember be careful, it only takes about a teaspoon of aids shoved up your butt and that's it.
So you find it funny because it's acting what a lot of people her age think 🤣
There was the issue that Barry was underage too, which was problematic, rather than Colin being gay. Dot became close friends with Colin.
"I expect God's got something else up his sleeve for them" - had to laugh at this. RIP June Brown.
Strange to think how ridiculous some people’s views are / were. The character might have been a pain back in those days but she did finally lose her homophobic views. The actress was a very good one, lovely and never homophobic. RIP ❤️
June Brown always supported gay rights. Wonderful woman.
@@antonimartinez9961 yes she was
Doesn't matter if you agree or not, her views in this context are not "ridiculous", they're inline with her religious beliefs. It's entirely consistent.
@@flammenjc ...so religious beliefs can't be ridiculous? Dumb take.
@@flammenjc bore off
The way she wipes her hand on her coat after she gives the keys back is everything.
"Not to mention...the pair of ya'may have AIDS" A bit of comedy for once in EastEnders. Bloody 'ell ..What a statement!
Hahahaha!🥳 so😂 funny 🤪 I’m 😱 screaming😎
@@harry490 I mean, I think that's his piont.
Genuinely hilarious, like an MDE sketch.
I first saw her on a graham norton youtube clip. I was instantly Interested in looking up as much of this incredibly honest, funny woman. What a life. What a career.
" anyway i guess god's got something else up his sleeve for them" lolz! pure class
Vegetarianism... and Cats.
@@timothyj1966 WTF?
Should be veganism and cats?
4 decades later, people think it's a "woke" agenda being "pushed down their throats" by having two gay characters in a computer game.
LMAO IKR
No 'woke' is having male serial killers self ID into women's prisons or getting upset at virtually everything.
Bigotry should always be resisted from both the left and right.
@OlJimJam 100%
Gay characters are needed to win awards just search up the rules for The Oscars a list of things needed to be nominated for an Oscar.
@@theslavemotivator3571 Who gives a toss about the Oscars tbh? But it's hardly a nefarious agenda to ensure your awards are inclusive. There are all kinds of problems with industry sycophancy in the Oscars that ought to bother you more than a good-natured attempt to offer representation.
if you think this scene is shocking, the BBC were employing Jimmy Savile at the time. Does that give a bit of perspective.
I don't think the audience was meant to think like Dot, the show wasn't trying to be anti gay
Stephen Kissane You would be surprised, some communities were quite homophobic in the uk, even in the early 10s, not all though. But it feels like it’s only recently homosexuality has really been destigmatised though of cause discrimination and stuff can still exist. People were also more religious in the 80s. There is an Oprah video where she seems against an atheist organisation that offered a helpline for atheists back then.
@@PeteS_1994 Nope it's still really bad
@@thunder_heads it’s far far better than it was though. The ignorant can scream and shout as much as they like but they’re a dying breed and the world will not mourn their loss.
If anything now the love that dare not speak its name now refuses to STFU . Way too much it and transgender being forced upon people like it's normal or something
Awwww bless ya Dot, certainly an unforgettable character and lady
She has changed and learned her views were not right. I respect her for that.
No she hasn't. She may not think AIDS is God's divine punishment on gays anymore but she's still a homophobe. When Colin (Barry's guy) came back in 2016 to marry his boyfriend Dot was friends with him but told him she wouldn't attend his wedding because she believed gay marriage wasn't right. She also told her granddaughter Sonia (who's bisexual) that if she were to marry a woman she wouldn't attend her wedding either for the same reason, AND THAT'S HER GRANDDAUGHTER SHE'S SAYING THAT TO!
David Mernick So what? Not everyone has to accept it do they? Doesn't make her a bad person. She still loves her family
@@Lava91point0 "So what? Not everyone has to accept it do they? Doesn't make her a bad person." If she's a bigot with homophobic opinions then that's exactly what it makes her. A hypocrite too.
David Mernick Lying, stealing, cheating, abusing others, these are all traits of a bad person. A fucking opinion or sheer disapproval of something doesn't come close, hypocrite maybe but not something that makes her a bad person. If you try to tell being a hypocrite is what qualifies as bad, then that's all of us isn't it?
It’s a tv show
Now in EastEnders you have an Asian Muslim lesbian raising money for a mosque in a local gay bar.
Her accent and voice have changed so much over the years, almost as much as her mindset has!
This was the 80s. Colin and Barry were some of the first gay characters on TV and Dot Cotton was a religious busy body.
Her attitude did improve as her character developed and I remember her doing some research on HIV when Mark was first diagnosed and he wasn't expecting this change in her attitude.
Ignorance in the world is only addressed by lessons that are taught, and learnt.
As a gay man, I recognise this part in my early years. I don’t hold it against her character. My grandmother, god bless her long gone (dot) cotton socks, would swear I was still going through a phase.
Ignorance is innocence. Just don’t close your eyes and ears. Dot didn’t. We’re all learning, every day.
RIP my love ❤️
Indoctrinated by religion from a young age . Still happens today
But if you get told about an issue constantly, you are no longer ignorant. Your grandmother wasn't ignorant the moment she found out about it. Ignorance means YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING. She knew. For example, Dot isn't ignorance about homosexuality but she was ignorant about the aids bit, but once she understands that gayness doesn't equate to aids automatically, she will no longer be ignorant about that. I just think that people shouldn't hide behind "ignorance" when they *actually do know* something but just continue to hate or disagree or discriminate or exclude and isolate others.
By the way I'm not saying that ppl don't learn everyday or anything like that. I'm just saying by definition, people are no longer ignorant once they know. But also I mean some people will never accept certain things anyways and in my opinion, as long as that doesn't threaten people's opportunities then it is what it is really.
@@Laura-sg6ss, you started by pretty much repeating what I said.
Just being told about something doesn’t address ignorance particularly. One has to fully understand before one’s ignorance is properly addressed. Ones narrow mind and stubbornness could mean that they don’t learn at all.
I don’t care that much really. Someone else’s problem is their problem. I’m still ignorant about all sorts of thing I don’t yet know. But my heart and mind is open to learn. I think that my grandmother and mother gifted me. So it comes full circle. Some people just don’t have the time or patience to want to know, so they remain ignorant. That’s up to them, really. I don’t hold that against them.
And I think at that time we were all learning about AIDS. We don’t even call it that any more, which is further learning by humans. Thankfully acute-HIV is no longer as prevalent thanks to modern drugs.
@@martywalker9193 No you said that ignorance is innocent and I'm saying that only to a point. Where we seem to differ is that point of not being ignorant.
I'm saying they are ignorant about specific things. I agree their stubbornness deters them but For example, like I said once upon a time, someone may have no idea ppl can be gay. Once they know then they're not ignorant about THAT. However, they may be taught to associate it with aids and until they research then they'll still be ignorant about it - but they don't research to know which is NOW an active decision. But my comment wasn't to talk about what is taught or not - it's addressing the stubborn side - being stubborn is actively choosing to disagree and that's not "innocent."
But tbh I see your point and wish you a good day 🙂
I guess there's a difference between willful ignorance and just plain ignorance. I'd agree that ignorance itself can be innocent, a lot of the time even, but willful ignorance, as I call it, like when someone is given the option to learn about something but chooses not to, is most of the time, not innocent. So maybe under these definitions we're all on more of the same page?
I say most of the time willful ignorance is not innocent, instead of at all times, as I feel it is an understandable reaction to not believe something that's told to you when it directly contradicts something you've believed for nearly your whole life. However it mostly seems that willful ignorance is due to spite or something just as bad, stripping it of it's innocence.
This is brave because it's very rare for a soap nowadays to make one of the main characters anything but right on. They usually draft in a new character to explore an idea like this.
Rip in peace June Brown.
EE will never be the same!
Classic scene 🤣🤣
Barry said he only sleeps on the sheets with Colin. Dot has a dirty imagination lol
What a character! The 80s - we thought it was modern times but looking back at these episodes is like looking at the Dark Ages.
Ironically, I'd say we have only entered the dark ages in recent times. Though humanity has progressed through technology and other accomplishments, we have definitely receded in more ways than one; like teaching 6 year old children "what this part does" and how to have children for example.
@@MachonaVideos rather they learn the facts from their parents in gentle, wholesome ways than from children in the schoolyard in vulgar, incorrect ways
@@calistusjay60 exactly. I really don't think that enough people realise how far gone this world is, and has become. It's a scary world that we're living in these days where absolutely anything goes; such a notion seems "great & accepting" but it will & is causing more harm than any of the old ways of teaching kids will ever have done.
the scene while serious and a true reflections on peoples ignornant views is still very funny i thought
The aids comment is not, its very offensive and insulting to everyone who died from that awful illness. Its not a gay illness as for one lesbians can’t really catch it?? And in 2022 more straight people are catching it than gays. Cant believe they left that comment in its so offensive to so many people
Think we just care less and less as time goes by
Gaby's explanation is spot on. I can remember all the stick that the Beeb got when they included gay characters, and also when Mark Fowler got HIV. Times change and thankfully so have attitudes, and its shows like EE that show people that there is more than just black and white people in the world
Yes attitudes have changed but the truth never will.
@@AJ-cv9zf What does that mean?
@@spinachpies basically he's saying "homophobic bigotry may be less common these days, but there'll always be bigoted homophobes"
@@SN4KEBYTE like him I'm guessing
@@spinachpies yes exactly
Those were the days, not the homophobia, but the 80's, and Eastenders in the 80's. Great times.
Oh yes those homophobic years running through the fields heterosexual images of course impossible we did it nonetheless because Weetabix has magical powers in them days lol the English public are still thick as s*** and the sun how twice as dripping brexit Tory government transphobia sadly the more things change the more they stay the same but you are insane if you do not see how we have it so much better now compared to the 80s where Romance was somehow a toilet lol I've given that ago it's not very romantic don't know what 80s people were thinking. Who the f*** gets turned on in a toilet it's not the easiest thing in the world that is for sure.
Literally the only good things about the 80s was the music
Back when EastEnders was still good.
💅🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🏳️🌈
It had humour and was watchable
Is this Margaret Thatcher 😂
kainan harrison I don't think so
You mean someone who voted to legalise homosexuality? That Margaret Thatcher?
@@JoshuaMSP1995 Sorry?! It was her government that introduced Section 28 and kept the age of consent for gay men at 21 whereas it was 16 for straight men.
@@kevinlongman007 Margaret Thatcher voted to legalise homosexuality. Just a fact.
It is her
June did an interview once and said how she hated doing that scene and went against everything she believed in. RIP June. You were a true LGBTQ+ advocate 👌🏼💪🏻
wouldnt really agree, she was literally a conservative
@@ROARROARROAR Conservatives are Centrists
June played the Dot character so well.
It was a simpler time..a better time
"One pair of sheets between ya?" 🤣🤣
Homophobia wasn't even a valid concept in 1986. 93% of the British population would have reacted the same way.
"oomoosekshulz?!"
Very sad news indeed RIP dear lady condolences to her family and friends 🙏🙏
“God’s got something else up his sleeve for them.” 😂😂😂
😂😂
HaHa. Lesbians seem to get a free pass by the god.
People need to understand it was a different generation then, most people were scare of Aids and didn't understand it, this reaction was very common then. Mark HIV storyline really educated the public. The later years Dot we had outgrew these views. Anyway, we will miss you June Brown, you brought so much life in the character Dot.
I don't think we did looking at these comments. The amount of people using God as an excuse for their homophobia is scandalous.
@@christianfrost8660 id rather obey God the Creator of mankind and the Heavens and the Earth than some LGBTQ supporter on a yt video
Dot was eastenders biggest sweetheart
Some people on here make me sick.
Louise Davison This series is shite
@Dark Glow You just called all straight people ignorant and sheep. Generalising much?
@Way to Mars you sound ignorant with that comment.
sorry. as awful as her reaction was, it was absolutely hilarious.
nah i was pissing myself
funniest scene in all of the show, sums up so much about the 80s
Easter enders was exactly that. Everything was hilarious but belly laughing.. Now it's lost its plot except for Tameka.. She drives me crazy but her humour outshines everyone.
I still love everyone
“You and Colin are ‘omo-sex-uals?” 😂
Dot on about Lesbians when Barry mention's Them when They talk about AID's "I don't know about Them" was a laugh out loud moment.
More men develop & spread aids then women straight or gay facts ☠️
in retrospect the age difference between Barry and Colin was a bit creepy.
Back then it seemed like it was a lot more socially acceptable, at least it did to me when I was a kid.
It’s still very common in gay communities, both men and women. Maybe it’s a lack of prospective partners and over time it’ll even out to being comparable to straight couples, maybe it’s some old holdover from gay culture of times gone by, hell maybe it’s parental issues. Whatever the case, it’s very much true to life, however much we might not wish it to be.
Ain't no reason for hating on Dot for her views. We all have our prejudices growing up.
Sometimes we hate because we are taught to hate. It's innocent. Not a defect of our character but something we are told to do.
We're human beings too. We feel the same things like everyone else, and just because we like the company of other men it doesn't mean we are bad people. We don't blame you for hating us.
Apparently Barry is meant to return fir Dots funeral. His first appearance in over 30 years.
Dot is the most adorable homophobe ever!
I don’t think those words should be in the same sentence lol
@@dpinto6278 It's called a bible not a straightble.
@@dpinto6278 This comment got me Richard Hard
Chloe. Marriage is a heterosexual institution.
@@dpinto6278 i literally made a pun about your name but also youre an idiot lmao.
very normal reaction for the time, thankfully people are more understanding nowadays
She made some valid points.
No she didn't 😂
Where?
This is the most EastEnders I have ever watched
I love how people are saying it's bad for it to be man on man but it's ok if it's two girls. There's nothing wrong with it either way. You can't condradict yourself just because you'd find the girl action 'hot' it's totally ignorant.
Yes it is totally ignorant.
Based Dot.
Muslim women who veil themselves, have my respect. I see the vision and reason
@Kerrie Wilson have you ever spoke to a muslim woman😂😂
@@faisalahmed4074 I've spoken to 11 Muslim women and got a bj from one
@Kerrie Wilson not all of them are forced to wear the hijab. Most muslim women I've spoken to told me they wear it because they feel closer to Allah. It's a choice.
@@elinalukaziak693 Thank you - yes, we do feel like that. I wear it for me and God.
"I suspect God's got something else up his sleeve for lesbians" - Dot, EastEnders
"I have nothing against the gays, I just don't want my daughter married to one" - Blanche, Coronation St.
Homophobic elderly people on soaps 🤣
But then Blanche was the sort of person who would go to funerals for fun and free food!
Dots voice here! Her teeth r dreadful
Back in the old days!
Back in the bad old days
We can't be saying that anymore
As much as I love Dot her reaction here left me heartbroken. Times were different, and I'm glad Eastenders was realistic in its early days, but it still doesn't make for easy viewing.
Lmao. This was the 80's and even if it was today this kind if shit wouldn't hurt nobody. Except for idiots.
Will I Am You are not the authority for how anyone should feel
Gosh, you guys scared me. I am a lesbian and I love June Brown, but if it is that bad - I will not watch it.
@@william6358 lmfm
@@william6358 Very true
Look at the way Barry puts down the flask lid at the very beginning of the video, all over the shop
I had that exact model of walkman that his has on his hip!
June brown was a actor. All scenes in any soaps are written for them by writers . So if any transphobic scenes . Blame the writers and tv companies like the BBC . Unbelievable that some people think soaps are real .
I vaguely remember this from '87. There's even a reminder about the age of consent between gays. At the time it was 21. Barry, here, is still 20.
He's an 'omosexual.
one of the best eastenders scenes ever.
not quite
Never a truer word spoken
Dot is so different in real life. She is not homophobic. She hangs out with gay men. Watch her interview with Lady Gaga. June Brown is awesome.
Peace be upon you, as a good person like other people, you must to listen to me, I just want to say that:-
1. Either we're good person or we're the type of a person who put a barriers, why should there need to be a barriers to loves between one another.
2. Religion is about Peace and Mercy of God.
3. I believe that God will please, and embraces with ours' kind and loving spirits.
4. God loves us beyond any and everything else, and He is that's who we should love first.
I can’t believe how naive she is 🤣🤦♀️ “in the same sheets, at the same time”
Such an incredible actress!
Rip dear June, you will be greatly missed❤️
You can tell when this was written, because the man who happens to be gay just happens to sound like any other person rather than a raving lunatic. Despite this the writing though confronting is subtle by todays standards.
completly agree! as a gay person it's so annoying seeing a gay character in a modern movie being sterio typical or have to talk about it every 10 seconds.
@@charlieluna7237 Any examples?
@@michaelscott3174 Off the top of my head, Bill Potts from Doctor Who, any chance the writers could get they had her keep brining up her sexuality every other episode.
@@charlieluna7237 Just watched a "Bill Potts gay compilation" and it's literally just her having relationships with women. If they wrote her the exact same way, but as a man attracted to women, no one on the world would refer to these scenes as "bringing up his sexuality". The hypocrisy would be funny if it weren't so sad.
@@michaelscott3174 Ok so like I'm not tring to argue or anything, so please don't read this like i'm trying to set an angry tone :)
I wasn't trying to bring up any argument.
I have watched the doctor who season's with her in it and it is mentioned alot and it is purposely brought to attention a lot.
The episode where they brought back the 1st doctor was especially annoying because they made him racist and misogynistic which is very strange and out of character for The Doctor.
If you look at Jack Harkness he flirts with everyone all the time but it wasn't done explicitly to show off an LGBT character. Sadly, a lot of media especially the BBC can't seem to just show gay people as normal. They either have to be stereotypical or over sexualised.
Its uncomfortable, especially being gay myself.
The point I am trying to make is It would be nice to have gay characters in movies and shows where they wasn't trying to make a point of it.
Like in the TV show Peacemaker. One of the main characters was gay, they even kissed her girlfriend at the end in a scene which would usually be the typical "hero dude gets the girl" type of thing.
I was a child then, born in 1979, so I wouldn't have understood this. We watched Eastenders as a family. I do hope that Dot Cotton came around the idea and accepted Barry.
There’s a bloke on UA-cam called ‘ChillyJonCarne,’ he’s the spitting image of Barry. Ironically, he hates the BBC TV license. 😂
Dot is a legend
Apparently a lot of the stuff against gays in the bible was either taken out of context or misinterpreted when the bible was translated. I had to do an essay about it for school last year, so I know way too much about it all now. I'm a christian, and I'm definitely not homophobic, anyway.
bullshit! the ppl of Lot had a PREFERENCE which was sinful, not just rent boys
have u read Leviticus 20;13. its a sin.
Ashley Crystal Um, doesn't Leviticus also say women have to cover up their hair? I take it you do that, since you're so pure self-righteous? Every Christian I've met, even the really serious ones, agree that Leviticus is a book that should be ignored, because it's completely old and outdated. There's only one set of rules I think that, as a christian, you should follow, and that's the ten commandments. And anyone who's judging people for being gay is technically sinning themselves, because the bible says you're meant to not judge people, and to accept them for who they are. And that's A LOT more important than a person's sexuality.
Em Ma you're only supposed to cover your hair when praying and prophesying.
Yeah, but no-one does that. Like I said, it's out-dated. Like many things in the bible.
Rest in peace. She was an amazing actress, and she will be missed 😢.
This fact this was uploaded as a segment is hilarious