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  • Part 2 of 2. A defiant Mark Fowler drinks in the Queen Vic despite being barred as Peggy's hate campaign against him reaches its climax. Facing a barrage of abuse from Peggy, Mark emotionally reveals that he is HIV positive. Subscribe: bit.ly/2NKkb2U
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 202

  • @girlygirlyblonde
    @girlygirlyblonde 9 років тому +180

    So funny how Grant had no time for his mums idiocy.

    • @erosion271
      @erosion271 9 років тому +53

      ***** Grant was one of the few who supported Mark from the begining

    • @sohailalrahi1047
      @sohailalrahi1047 8 місяців тому +2

      Thats true. Even though he was a neandarthal at times, his heart and brain were in the right place

    • @Mrose19911
      @Mrose19911 6 місяців тому +1

      ⁠@@sohailalrahi1047what do you mean neandarthal

    • @gh0510
      @gh0510 6 місяців тому

      ​@@Mrose19911*neanderthal

    • @ohwell94
      @ohwell94 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Mrose19911he was a bully who occasionally hit women

  • @chokesmc
    @chokesmc 3 роки тому +77

    I remember Barbara Windsor saying she hated having to act out these scene's as she had real life friends who were HIV positive

    • @chokesmc
      @chokesmc 3 роки тому +3

      @Rix Mace that is dark! But funny still..

    • @franciscondon1902
      @franciscondon1902 Рік тому +5

      She was against doing it until the writers gave her notes that proved people are like that.

  • @scrabbler2717
    @scrabbler2717 5 років тому +57

    Good for him sticking up for him self. He's my favourite EastEnder's character !

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 6 років тому +55

    Grant was embarrassed by his mum

  • @13LvA
    @13LvA 10 років тому +94

    Wish EE could be like this nowadays, this was good actin' and very good scriptwriting!

  • @shawneecherrypie4331
    @shawneecherrypie4331 3 роки тому +36

    Mark was one of the nicest characters in the show. He always looked out for his family, helped people and of needed to he could handle himself. To see him go through this was horrible.

  • @patterrum
    @patterrum 5 років тому +21

    The moment Peggy says "you've got Aids Mark" you can here the sound of shock reaction. Awesome scene

  • @tijindersingh5635
    @tijindersingh5635 7 років тому +25

    Very heart wrenching to watch another person pouring his heart out telling everyone his feelings.

  • @jdooris83
    @jdooris83 6 років тому +20

    Mark Fowler was a great character, this scene was his and glad he stood up to Peggy R.I.P Mark

  • @VengaboysRbackINtown
    @VengaboysRbackINtown 4 роки тому +14

    I always wonder what the other people in the pub who aren’t really local or regulars think when someone starts making one of these dramatic speeches and everyone goes quiet.

    • @roxxi789
      @roxxi789 9 місяців тому

      🤣

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 Місяць тому

      Exactly imagine never having been there before, all you want is a drink

  • @psycoticbastard
    @psycoticbastard 8 років тому +67

    Todd Carty is a great actor.

    • @rorymckernan8594
      @rorymckernan8594 8 років тому +2

      Agreed there mate. This speech is fantastic, i liked Peggy but she was out of order here.
      Have you noticed the error here, Grant served Mark a pint in a glass, then Mark drinks out of a bottle.

    • @psycoticbastard
      @psycoticbastard 8 років тому

      +Rory Mckernan When people react to aids like this cause it is down to lack of knowledge about it.

    • @rorymckernan8594
      @rorymckernan8594 8 років тому

      +psycoticbastard Yeah i suppose yeah.
      Made me laugh how calm Grant is when Mark is mainly having a go at Peggy.

    • @psycoticbastard
      @psycoticbastard 8 років тому

      +Rory Mckernan Lol...probably worried spilling Marks blood on him.

  • @UKProud
    @UKProud 10 років тому +26

    Lol look at how young Carol is here hahaha

  • @nuntana2
    @nuntana2 4 роки тому +21

    Brilliant acting by Todd Carty. This is when Eastenders was worth watching.

  • @zaramariadixon5035
    @zaramariadixon5035 5 років тому +20

    This was brilliant!! I think alot of people were ignorant where HIV was concerned til this point and this helped people who knew nothing about it understand more very well done !

  • @rorymckernan8594
    @rorymckernan8594 8 років тому +22

    A man walks in a pub. "What the hell are you doing here".
    Well i have come to get my haircut aint i. I must have taken a wrong turn.

  • @dt1111able
    @dt1111able 6 років тому +65

    Would go back to the 80s and 90s any day of the week! That was the real eastenders, now it's a load of bollocks

  • @welshdragon2008
    @welshdragon2008 7 років тому +33

    Still by far my favourite Eastenders moment to date. This ranks up there with there with Den and Ang's sudden Christmas' divorce paper! This was a Ground breaking moment!
    No other soap anywhere in the world would touch on this taboo subject at this time. Just amazing to watch it, even in 2017

  • @alexjones1985
    @alexjones1985 7 років тому +17

    Peggy "Nigel, you always were a stupid boy..."
    Nigel "Do I look like Pike from Dad's Army?"

  • @laminage
    @laminage 6 років тому +8

    EE dealt with educating folks about HIV/AIDS alot more intense than on The US Soap Opera All My Children.

    • @Ryan12334
      @Ryan12334 5 років тому

      They did it better than Emmerdale too. Hollyoaks was ok but it should have been done with a different character

  • @ShallowPlane
    @ShallowPlane 8 років тому +41

    epic acting

  • @laminage
    @laminage 6 років тому +29

    If Peggy is going to discriminate against Mark Fowler for having AIDS, she may as well discriminate against anyone who is Black, Indian or Lesbian. This was a very admirable Storyline. It really shows that The UK can teach The US about Writing Storylines.

    • @AMMA83
      @AMMA83 5 років тому +2

      that makes zero sense actually.

    • @AMMA83
      @AMMA83 5 років тому +5

      She was completely in the wrong of course, and as he pointed out he had HIV not AIDs at that point, but her discrimination was based on ignorance and fear surrounding how the virus is transmitted that is why she didn't want him in the pub. That is not connected to race or ethnicity. Not sure why you had to drag black or asian people into this especially when they face discrimination already in other situations, perhaps you didn't mean it that ways but its almost as if you are suggesting all black or indian people have AIDs which is discriminatory. I do agree this storyline educated so many people though but let's stay on topic though.

    • @franciscondon1902
      @franciscondon1902 Рік тому +3

      Barbara Windsor hated doing these scenes. She got loads of hate mail from angry fans. She even had a friend at the time who was dying from AIDS so she must of hated Peggy more than anyone during this. Peggy was so up herself then and she learned a lesson from it. She came to regret it and Mark became a close friend to her after that. He reached out to her when she had breast cancer and it created a bond between them.

  • @michaellacey940
    @michaellacey940 4 роки тому +6

    Proper beautifully scripted touching what’s ever happened to all that now?

  • @shanefolan
    @shanefolan 11 років тому +13

    this was 1996,it was boxing day 91 he told his parents

  • @Landofnothing
    @Landofnothing Рік тому +3

    0:29 this is the most shocking part of the video....There are other pubs in Walford? Where?

  • @ForestKicks
    @ForestKicks 6 років тому +46

    Fantastic acting from Todd Carty

    • @ciara313245
      @ciara313245 5 років тому +3

      His acting is incredible. He really sold it and make it believable 🙌💯

  • @ciara313245
    @ciara313245 5 років тому +8

    Todd Carty's acting has left me SHOOK😳😳

  • @benwsp
    @benwsp 7 років тому +11

    Wow. Brilliant acting, powerful scene

  • @alexjones1985
    @alexjones1985 7 років тому +15

    Hope Peggy apologised after this!

    • @monalisasmile6629
      @monalisasmile6629 6 років тому +9

      alex jones she did. When she got her breast cancer diagnosis. She confided in Mark. They became good friends after that. Until the whole baby Louise custody chaos. That put a damper on their friendship.

    • @tijindersingh5635
      @tijindersingh5635 6 років тому +1

      She did. When she had cancer she read up about HIV. She apologised to Mark and Mark forgave her. They became close friends afterwards.

  • @leonakinyemi9322
    @leonakinyemi9322 9 років тому +85

    Man, his acting is so good. One of my favourite characters on the show. Along with Grant and Dennis.

  • @halox80
    @halox80 13 років тому +14

    Great acting, really good. It's such a shame now that Eastenders has poor actors.

  • @mariahoness9410
    @mariahoness9410 6 років тому +17

    well done eastenders for once for raising awareness of the stigma about the illness. well played by Todd Carty

  • @ichoosejoy2712
    @ichoosejoy2712 4 роки тому +6

    It didn't seem to bother Grant, which is surprising. They were despicable treating him the way they did. Even if they were ignorant and scared they could have treated him more kindly, showed some compassion. Instead they acted like he had done something terrible to them personally, they were so angry with him!

    • @hannahabdullahhh1745
      @hannahabdullahhh1745 3 роки тому +3

      no grant was actually disgusted he told his mum many times that it was wrong

  • @colinsweeney2628
    @colinsweeney2628 2 роки тому +2

    Amazing stuff, its unimaginable to see perfermances like this on Eastenders today

  • @mrvolax
    @mrvolax 13 років тому +13

    Eastenders actually had a small bit of credibility back in those days. Had a few decent actors and that. Shows a circus these days, though.

  • @alexjones1985
    @alexjones1985 7 років тому +13

    Not hating on Peggy, but I doubt Linda (or Kat, before her) would have done this. I think they'd have both been more supportive!

    • @MrPerfect2000Z
      @MrPerfect2000Z 6 років тому +3

      Because it is now the 21st century and any misconceptions about HIV and AIDS are now long been cleared.
      That and Linda and Kat are much younger than Peggy

    • @wordoflife8158
      @wordoflife8158 5 років тому

      They wouldn't have been as old fashioned as Peggy

    • @ChloeCurson
      @ChloeCurson 3 місяці тому

      Don't think they would

  • @gaywest4298
    @gaywest4298 6 років тому +2

    Half expect Avid Merrion to turn up saying, I have the Aids as well as the Craig. Lol.

  • @wrghty
    @wrghty 5 місяців тому +1

    When he said "I'm the one that's gonna die" hits you hard

  • @michaelspilman5220
    @michaelspilman5220 5 років тому +2

    A truly powerful and memroble scene .Mark is to be throughtly comemened for standing up to Peggy. This is a great example for all of us. We should all stand up against the peggy Mitchell's of this world. And not just with regard to prejudice against people with marks condition. But all other predjudices. From Michael from Yorkshire and proud of it.

  • @traciemarsh1611
    @traciemarsh1611 Рік тому +2

    mark was amazing. todd needs an award grant was great sticking up for mark ignoring his mum

  • @sacranie823
    @sacranie823 7 років тому +2

    it was good to see the old Times square video will upload right on mate 👍

  • @BrianSmith-lj6ug
    @BrianSmith-lj6ug 6 років тому +7

    Scene shows just what a great actor Todd Carty is.

  • @nickyhaugh2390
    @nickyhaugh2390 2 роки тому +7

    As legendary as Peggy Mitchell maybe, I'd have to say that she was totally out of order with the way how she discriminated Mark Fowler just because of his HIV condition!!

    • @madferityeah
      @madferityeah 2 роки тому +1

      This is before hiv/aids was known enough too know it’s only contracted via sex/used needles. People just assumed if u have hiv it can be transmitted like covid

    • @Sawrattan
      @Sawrattan 2 роки тому +2

      Out of order but probably common behaviour at the time. I have gay friends in their 50s-60s who say they were regularly chucked out of pubs by landlords just for looking or sounding gay, because of association with HIV. Scary how recent this was.

  • @stephencorcoran4774
    @stephencorcoran4774 5 років тому +2

    If that was any of my friends or family who had ever had this my Support will be given I’ll raise awareness

  • @colinwharton
    @colinwharton Рік тому +1

    It's very good they are doing this storyline now in 2023 with Zak and how different it is living with HIV nowadays

  • @grant24678
    @grant24678 13 років тому +2

    Holy Hell Carol Looks So Young. Thank you for uploading. A Very goood scene

  • @MikeStarKaraokeUK
    @MikeStarKaraokeUK 5 років тому +3

    Hi I'm roof I could not help but notice the draft coming in as I came down. Sorry Peggy I just could not stay up their any longer. I think Grant had size 12 on at the time.

  • @tamsmith291
    @tamsmith291 Рік тому +1

    Todd carty’s acting in this storyline was top class

  • @aldorfc220
    @aldorfc220 4 роки тому +2

    Well his ice skating funny too lol

  • @johncambridge7339
    @johncambridge7339 Рік тому +1

    Brilliant acting

  • @jdooris83
    @jdooris83 10 місяців тому +1

    What other pubs in Walford are there? Never seen or heard of them, except the Dagmar back in the 80s

  • @ryanhills4907
    @ryanhills4907 4 роки тому +2

    It’s tucker from Grange Hill

  • @laminage
    @laminage 4 роки тому +2

    This was heavier than what was seen on All My Children. .Barbara Windsor admitted she got alot of Shade from folks. Sadly enough her dementia got worse to the point she was watching the show and she said to her Husband "I sued to Work In That Pub You Know."

  • @angelaandersons7918
    @angelaandersons7918 Рік тому +2

    Happy heavenly birthday to Mark Fowler, 55 today! These scenes are so important then, today ( with zacks diagnosis) and also educating the public, and fighting stigma! Todd Carty is a talented gentleman!

  • @billydeeuk
    @billydeeuk 12 років тому +2

    "There are other pubs in Walford".....Where?

    • @alexjones1985
      @alexjones1985 7 років тому

      billydeeuk What about the one Mick and Linda used to run?

  • @summerv6160
    @summerv6160 4 роки тому +3

    Bless him🥺🥺

  • @tanyarees844
    @tanyarees844 5 років тому +2

    Peggy's attitude here is absolutely disgusting here, u can only get by sexual intercourse but if u use protection and be careful more unlikely not too

  • @gemmaaboagye8951
    @gemmaaboagye8951 4 роки тому +2

    Good on mark for telling peggy off .she judges other people

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 6 років тому +5

    Some people forget how nasty Peggy cud b

  • @janvondeboom6806
    @janvondeboom6806 9 років тому +16

    What a brilliant piece of acting Tom Hanks and the so called cream of acting could not of given a better performance

    • @DanielKiddLondon
      @DanielKiddLondon 8 років тому +3

      +Jan von de boom you obviously haven't seen philadelphia

    • @janvondeboom6806
      @janvondeboom6806 8 років тому +2

      +Daniel Kidd yes I have was not impressed

  • @ffsnoob
    @ffsnoob 13 років тому +4

    grant serves him a pint in a glass then he drinks a bottle?!?! dum-dum-da-dum-dum-dum-da-dum

  • @laminage
    @laminage 5 років тому +1

    You know what's so sad. Two US Soap Actors died of Aids related illness. Chris Bernau who played Alan Spaulding #1 on Guiding Light from 1977-1990 and Terry Lester who played Jack Abbott #1 on The Young & The Restless. A lot of Folks from Broadway who also died of The Disease including Michael Bennett & Michael Peters who did the Broadway Version of Dreamgirls before it became a Movie.

  • @boycie2.099
    @boycie2.099 6 років тому +4

    Eastenders was so much better back then it’s completely lost it’s edge now the 2010’s is when it really started to be piss poor

  • @pamelabibby8642
    @pamelabibby8642 4 роки тому +2

    no wonder janine was how she was

  • @932sd
    @932sd 6 років тому +1

    EastEnders won the Best Drama Series Bafta the following year, 1997, and quite frankly scenes such as this pretty much got them that award.
    That halcyon period when, at it's best, it was the UK's best drama series.

  • @CactusBlacc
    @CactusBlacc 13 років тому +2

    "You positive your infected??"
    "I'm not just positive............I'm HIV positive"

    • @HulaBeulah
      @HulaBeulah 6 років тому

      Fresh Prince OfTheStruggle nah they gave it to Tucker instead.

  • @harrycambridge1988
    @harrycambridge1988 Місяць тому

    Remember watching this live as a kid.

  • @alexreynoldsslang
    @alexreynoldsslang 12 років тому +2

    Press 5 for the details....

  • @neptunestardust
    @neptunestardust 3 роки тому

    Possibly one of the best storylines EE has ever done

  • @jacobburtonswfc
    @jacobburtonswfc 2 роки тому +1

    What are the other pubs in Walford?

  • @abbieroseholden4174
    @abbieroseholden4174 3 роки тому +1

    I didn't like Peggy in this scene. Even Barbara Windsor agreed that her character wouldn't of acted like this. Mark did well with this HIV storyline 👏

  • @neilmcdonald1776
    @neilmcdonald1776 Рік тому

    This video always cheers me up

  • @jazzbollywood
    @jazzbollywood 4 дні тому

    Last year zack declared he had h.i.v in the pub, then it was never mentioned again!

  • @mitchb77
    @mitchb77 4 роки тому +3

    Todd Carty is a decent actor need to see him more!!

  • @glorymatondo
    @glorymatondo Рік тому +1

    30 or so odd years later.... Zack hudson

  • @lastniterichard
    @lastniterichard 11 років тому +1

    i hope not ive just cleaned the ashtrays

  • @luckyshow98
    @luckyshow98 9 місяців тому

    Watched this countless of times, this was important television. It taught me that HIV was the virus and AIDS was the disease. Forgive my ignorance and others.

  • @rick182z
    @rick182z 3 роки тому +1

    Your unbelievable just as she walks in

  • @davidoftheglen3447
    @davidoftheglen3447 5 років тому +3

    Amazing acting by yer man Todd Carty !

  • @mousehead2000
    @mousehead2000 11 років тому +2

    melodrama at its finest...

  • @samsung12347122
    @samsung12347122 12 років тому +2

    I'm HIV positive

  • @dillonryan2540
    @dillonryan2540 3 роки тому +1

    Peggy had a big mouth when she made those horrible remarks to mark about hiv and aids

  • @laminage
    @laminage 3 роки тому

    From 1995 to 1996 there was a recurring Character on Guiding Light named Wyatt who played an HIV Counselor who also had HIV. His real name was Keith Christopher who did travelling Tours of Shows most notably The Best Little Whorehouse In Texas. He got sick in 1982 and he thought it was Leukemia but it was a platelet for HIV. Sadly enough he would die of AIDS related illness on February 23 1998.

  • @joepizarro1616
    @joepizarro1616 9 місяців тому

    RIP in mark Fowler... he had the virus . Not the disease. This video made georgia cry

  • @danielwilkins4748
    @danielwilkins4748 3 роки тому

    Are there other pubs in Walford?

  • @user-sp5pi9pg6x
    @user-sp5pi9pg6x Місяць тому

    Todd carty is a brilliant actor this was a hard-hitting powerful storyline that really brings out the best in todd as a actor

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST 6 років тому +1

    2:30 Cameo appearance by snoop dogg on the left there!!!!!!

  • @WhatsThisThenLucchiSupremeson
    @WhatsThisThenLucchiSupremeson 6 років тому

    great acting

  • @caitlinsykes
    @caitlinsykes 13 років тому +3

    I miss Peggy :(

  • @Headoffury
    @Headoffury 13 років тому +2

    @Floamz yeah i'm a changed man after watching this clip, I always thought peggy was nice. Now I know better.

  • @marketman2187
    @marketman2187 Рік тому

    Dont have time for soaps but that was incredible acting

  • @sprig007
    @sprig007 11 років тому +1

    powerfull

  • @richieboy896
    @richieboy896 2 роки тому

    Just had his covid vaccine …… oh dear ! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @stemple11100
    @stemple11100 3 роки тому +2

    Peggy was just a gobby judgemental old cow who thought she could say what she wanted because her sons would back her up, which made it even better when Grant actually stood up for Mark here 😂

  • @themadone24
    @themadone24 10 років тому +1

    Calling someone scum and then wishing death on then? Hypocrite!

  • @Truth4peace2024
    @Truth4peace2024 Рік тому

    Reminds me of zack at the pub recently

  • @startracker5895
    @startracker5895 Місяць тому

    Why did Mark make out HIV was totally different to aids? Aids is what you get after you get HIV. So it’s not like they were two completely separate things.

    • @rick182z
      @rick182z 29 днів тому

      you can live with HIV but not Aids big difference

  • @laurenmeltzer7159
    @laurenmeltzer7159 2 роки тому

    He’s quite possibly the character everyone remembers most from this show.

  • @innovativeinnovation6629
    @innovativeinnovation6629 2 роки тому

    Back in the day where you had to justify yourself for having it. Very upsetting!

  • @crystalball6358
    @crystalball6358 3 роки тому

    Peggy hated Mark but Babs absolutely loved Todd to bits!

  • @sinjeet1
    @sinjeet1 13 років тому +1

    @JumpinPakFlash it couldnt of been 1991, peggy didnt join untill 1994, must of been during 94-95ish