In fairness, lots of Liverpool supporters were having a fit on social media all summer over Liverpool's lack of signings. By contrast most of the media were far more even-handed about Liverpool's chances than the fans. Obviously click-bait merchants and kids on social media will say anything to try and attract attention.
Liverpool fans kind of lost the plot when the Zubimendi deal fell through, forgetting that the back up 6 Endo just a few months before was the standout midfielder against City. The hysteria was laughable
@@tkjp999as an lfc fan, the fanbase is honestly quite embarrassing sometimes. Some of the worst recency bias of any club. If salah doesn’t score, even if he gets an assist, they’ll say he’s washed and we need to sell him. It’s insane.
@@Auriflamme But you are also talking about social media thus likely Twatter, which is populated by people that just want signings for the sake of it, and because the other teams with completely different needs were making signings left right and centre. And you also admit this by the end. You are creating a contrast that isn't real. On neither side. No media outlet thought LFC were going to compete, and less so with no to one signings, and they have come to this realisation until this narrative changes yet again, most likely with injuries. Fact of the matter is, that the squad was already very good, and it was pretty smart to not disrupt that too much, as the squad had 4 new midfield signings last season, all the while players like Quansah and Bradley made their entrance as well as building on Jones and Elliott. All of which would to some extent have their pathway blocked if there were new signings.
@@tkjp999 That is very true, but you also need to factor in that this was the only signing we had directly identified, and Hughes messed it up, when he didn't immediately use the buy-out clause, but fiddled with it for 3-4 weeks giving Real Sociedad time to persuade Zubimendi to stay. Personally I would and stated pre-season that i would be fine with no signings, but when we had identified Zubimendi, it was a slap in the face, when we didn't land him, and even caused our keepers problems by getting a 4th keeper, when Kelleher already deserved his spot after Alisson.
Liverpool quietly competed for the title last season. Everyone was focusing on Man City and Arsenal. This year is the same story. Liverpool are a fantastic team.
I'd love to see them do. Last year they quietly competed, and rather loudly fell away towards the end. Let's hope for better this year. Although for slot to pull that off in his first yesr seems a tall order.
@@habatone It's always a tall order for winning a title. I only see three teams to have that kind of work ethic and attitude. Hopefully the no. increases. That said, I want Arsenal to win the title.
@@davidmurphy2388 they led the league for a large part of the season, only to implode due to injuries, and the pressure of Klopp leaving, right at the end. Had they had as drama-free a season as arsenal did, they may well have won the whole thing
Step by step, we won't be disgruntled if Slot didn't hand us the price this term. No rush. However, when I see and listen to Slot talk, I'm more confident Liverpool can tear the big teams apart.
@@86Brasco I agree, but if the players play like they did against Forest at home, consistently misplacing simple passes, top sides will punish us more often.
I’ll be satisfied with top four and a run to the semis in the FA cup or UCL. I’d love to see Arne do well in knockouts. Be a good measure of how we're gonna do in those comps in the future. This season the focus needs to be on the squad and developing a style of play everyone can contribute to
The wheels came off last season when all the players that had been over a short period of time post New Year, getting injuries+missing for Asia/AFCON came back, meaning they were not match fit and thrown into a well oiled, yet fatigued squad, and that completely collided, as it didn't happen gradually, but all at once - both in and out. Neither Arsenal nor City suffered from injuries to their core players or in a very limited space and number. Meaning their rotations were more natural, so even if Klopp did a complete master class in using his squad to perfection, he was extremely unlucky to suffer. Then factor in that LFC also suffered from very controversial decisions by PGMOL, amongst which cost them games against Spurs, Arsenal and City to name the most prominent ones. When you factor in all these things, you can't be surprised that this squad is actually more than capable of not only standing toe to toe with the other two, but again compete on 4 fronts.
Also one of the players also had BOTH parents kidnapped by a national drug cartel, but that doesn't ever seem newsworthy as a thing that could affect the mentality and pressure on the squad.
Hahahahhaah copium at its finest. When arsenal smash you at the Emirates I will laugh my head off. You can't beat citeh or arsenal. Your fans hate Britain and give Liverpool a bad name even though none of yous come from here.
@@chirigiualbert9128 oh stop it!!!! Are you okay?? That sounds st*pid. Give the kid his flowers & give him time. Saying he is technically better than a GREAT like VIERA is dog shite!!!!
I think Arne Slot is marvellous but don’t see us winning the league first season, definitely look forward to the bigger games to see how we do though but I imagine Man City take it home again
City are becoming weaker and weaker and both Arsenal and LFC are getting stronger and stronger. the thing keeping City afloat is low number of injuries and PGMOL.
@@digitalaccessibilityacademy It is hard to compete in a corrupt league, where officials do everything in their power to leverage one team to win. Once it was the red side of Manchester, now it is the blue side. The league itself is the most competitive by a huge margin. La liga is a joke. BL is a joke. Ligue 1 is a joke. Serie A is semi decent.
I've been loving this newlook Liverpool. It's so different but when it's on it's so pretty. WE are going to hit a rough patch or two this season. My hope is that we can finish top 4 and that we can get into the KO round for UCL. After a full campaign and when the dust has settled over who's staying and who's going, Slott will be able to identify the priorities and needs and i think we will find value in the market. I'm a hopeful dude, and i know that we are going to suffer and that's okay, the team needs to go through it to grow. One would have to be supremely arrogant to pick Liverpool to win the league this early on, so let's all take a breath and enjoy what we have and be grateful that we aren't dealing with dram you see at Chelsea or United. We are moving in the right direction. With speed. Love you guys.
My bro be humble for now, the only team to beat us is in the top ten the rest are below the top ten, we also lost at Anfield, our best performance gameplay wise was the last 1-0, we have not looked great and our opponents have been shocking, we got the results and we have been solid defensively, but the gameplay has not been great. Dont get too happy yet, the come down will be crazy. ATM anywhere from first to 5th, do not underestimate the fact that the only team we didn’t beat was a team in the top ten. They are in tenth.
@@RFC87 I always found people who put laugh face to their own comments to be the biggest low life’s going, it’s the definition of looking for attention, how old are you, the end of the day, your team is below Liverpool in the table and yes we will see by the end, so 🤫
Arne is cool , calm and collected , he's implementing his style and we have the players to switch , they seem fully on board with his ideas and trust in him , Yes a No6 is needed , however he puts his arm around Gravenberch and given him the confidence to perform , his man management is class and I fully believe in Arne and with a switched on fully fit Bajetic returning alongside Mac10 then ..🔥
The thing about beating the bottom half of the table is that those are the games that HAVE to be won to be in the title race. Can't beat all the bigger/harder teams then lose to Palace or Everton like last season. They aren't necessarily easy games but they're the best games to have to ensure Slot's vision gets implemented and the team get it down. Up the fuckin Reds.
As a United fan I do envy the smooth transition Liverpool have had since Klopp departed, I would not wish the anarchy that followed at our club since Sir Alex Ferguson departed, on any other club or their fan bases.
As an Arsenal fan I wish it on Gravechester everyday. Womanchester fans wished it on us for decades. So yeah, long may Baldchester's banter era continue 🤡
As a Liverpool fan I just wanted to say thank you for your sentiment and I'd like to respond by saying how incredibly happy I am that United are floundering. Long may it continue.
@@I_am_nobody999 I think there can always be healthy respect in competition, however things have moved beyond football now, In trying to emulate the success of Liverpool in the 70s and 80s and United in the Premier league era, the monsters we have unleashed in the forms of state ownership has destroyed the very competitive spirit in it, it feels so manufactured nowadays.
the situation with Trent, Virgil, & Mo's contracts is somewhat understandable given the discontinuity of sporting directors is perhaps not entirely down to the club what with the sporting directors leaving of their own volition & the time it took to nail down Edwards' return.
The closing remarks there is quite funny to me. "...a bumpy run after the international break..."? I don't see it that way. It's going to be a very interesting run that Liverpool fans will enjoy a lot. If you doubt me, check Arne Slots statistics against top sides in the eredivise and come back for a chat. He's the master of winning big games even with below average players against top sides. So with the materials he has at his disposal at Liverpool, I think it's going to be easy-peezy for him. We saw a glimpse of that in pre-season against Arsenal where he beat Arteta with Van den berg and quansah in defence (for context, Arsenal had more first team players starting that game than Liverpool did and it wasn't like Arteta didn't want the win, he just faced a superor game plan). Can't wait for those exciting run of games to be honest.
Tbf even tho ppl say liverpool have less resources than city/arsenal i personally think our players is our biggest resource. Having arguably the nr1 keeper, right back, left back, centreback and right winger in the world means we should be able to win it all
I'm not dismissing Arne Slot's impact on liverpool as clearly he's had an impact on how we control games etc,but don't forget the team Klopp left behind. I can't remember off hand a team/club that was in such a good position during a managerial change. From top to bottom everything was in a perfect place for Arne Slot to come straight in and get on with the business of playing football. I think the only thing that could have been better was a £150m transfer kitty and a number 6 lined up and ready to go!
I'd have been happy with 5th in his first year, but the start we've had is raising that in my head to top 3-4 now. Get to December still top with a few point lead and I'll raise that further in my head. lol
As Liverpool fan,am pretty excited for what Arne Slot is currently doing. A team coached by J.klopp for 8 years won everything when leaving &when heard news of that gap was going to about to be filled by Arne Slot,good coach but not proved at higher level I was immediately thinking "How many years our transition will take?". At the beginning of season,No one is for microseconds imagine that Arne Slot can win 9/10 games. Yes relatively the team not stable but still collecting points still has identity. Yes the team yet didn't face top teams of the league but that is not my worry,for new coach come into big responsibility in competitive league like EPL,not brought new players in,the main obstacles&disaster is loosing to lower table teams week in week out.
Settled squad??? I know we've almost certainly got them for the full season but I wouldn't call the 3 best players running down their contracts a settled squad
In my experience as a player in the US the best coaches I played for were able to see little tiny parts of an individual’s game that needed changing but focused most on maximizing an individual’s strengths. It’s the coaches who you sense believe you can be better because they see your potential and believe in the players ability to achieve that potential. The tough coaches who seemed like they enjoyed making us run for the sake of “fitness” or discipline never made me any better on a game day
You fail to mention that these 3players would most likely see if 1st of all they like the new manager b4 putting pan to paper.There’s a massive difference between playing for someone you like & respect as opposed to some one you don’t like
don't think Arne Slot would consider his team is quite the PL title contender just yet. The coming games are really challenging. He did mention that wait until year end to find out more.
It’ll be more interesting to see him rebuild without Salah, VVD, TAA and Alisson next season. That’ll be his true test, and will really show his mettle removing everything Klopp has done so far. From listening to him speak, his demeanor, calm and analytical nature, he’s probably the best guy for that job.
@@saturdaysequalsyouth dunno about Alisson. Mamardashvilli arrives next year, and while the prospect for two top keepers fighting for a spot is a wonderful conundrum, Alisson is very likely to leave
If you think emotionally, they should all sign an extension. But by that same reasoning, why haven’t they already? Negotiations typically start with 2-3 years to go, like with Ibra and Jarrell. If it has run down to the last 7-8 months before expiration, and 2 months before the start of the pre-contract window, emotions aside, there’s more possibility of leaving than staying. Love for Liverpool aside, riding it so close to January, if these players don’t wait and test the waters, it is financially stupid, which the agents are not. I’m just saying, taper the expectations a bit, otherwise it’ll be like the Zubimendi transfer with the belief that he was most likely going to sign for Liverpool.
I'm a Liverpool fan and I'm obviously quite happy with how seamlessly Slot has "slotted" in. But until we face Chelsea, City or Arsenal I honestly have no clue how his football stands up. Jury is still out on title contenders for me
Of the three players nearing the end of their contract, I think Van Dijk is the hardest to replace. With Trent, there are no similar players so they would need to go with a tactical variation. They could go the way City and Arsenal have been going and play essentially pacey centrebacks in the full back position as attacking fullbacks come at a premium. The more obvious option would be Frimpong who apparently has a tempting release clause. With Salah, Cole Palmer would be an interesting option, especially if Chelsea continue to underperform and have PSR issues. The more realistic option is that they try to make up his numbers in the aggregate. Bring in Viktor Gyökeres to play through the middle and play Jota or Chiesa from the right with Diaz/Gakpo LW and Nunez as the backup striker. With van Dijk, the heir apparent is Saliba but that is not going to happen. Bastoni or Bremer would be good options but would the squad lack leadership with van Dijk and Trent leaving? They could even go for a left sided CB like Bastoni who could also play LB and a young CB option like Antonio Silva or Ousmane Diomande. That would give them Konate, Gomez, Quansah, Bastoni (?) and Silva (?) as options for the four positions. Adding a player like Zubimendi in front would help top stabilise things further. With the past successes of Michael Edwards I think it is more exciting than concerning what they do in this situation. I would like Trent to stay as a local player but if van Dijk and Salah leave, the club will need to spend big to replace them adequately. I think the following would be a league challenging team: Allison/Marmadashvilli Trent-Konate-Silva-Bastoni Gravenberch-Zubimendi Jota-MacAllister-Diaz Gyökeres
No doubt great start to the season. Slot is using the players well. But we have keep it grounded. And having all said, I still think Liverpool still required 1-2 defensive signing. Be it central def or def mid. Konate is also very injury prone. We may not be giving alot of big chances away but past few games we have giving away alot of shots at goal. Gravenberch may be Frankie-esque but he is no Rodri or Kante. Let's see what Liverpool can do against the really giant boys with Slot.
We’ve been unlucky with cup draws, in both a sense of league cup and champions league. 2 prem teams for the first 2 rounds of the league cup and pretty much the best seeds from each tier in the champs league. Injuries will dictate how well we’ll do over the next 2 months.
Us , City , Arsenal , ( the usual TBF) but with Chelsea looking like they're turning up every week and Villa really progressing then it's more open title wise imo , im not saying Villa or Chelsea will win league but they're deffo gonna be there or there abouts , to get a Newly promoted team on the opening day of the season (away) UTD away , Milan away is a decent test for any new manager ....and he's passed it YNWA
Are there bigger tests to come, lads? Important question that I’m surprised you didn’t mention. Maybe you could have used the word ‘caveat’ or something.
Do you want to know why other top teams aren't Liverpool's problem?? Because it's the same Liverpool players that decimated City at Anfield with Rodri and KDB on the field. Remember they're even better than last season.
1. Can only beat what’s in front of you 2. Pre season “he’s gonna struggle without a CB, DM and FWD. 3. Now he’s inherited a great squad? However we will see in the next part there’s a difficult few fixtures coming
As a Liverpool fan, I wouldn’t begrudge Trent going to Madrid - I’d be quite happy for him - because the level of disrespect and mockery he has had in England has been completely out of proportion. He is not only a brilliant passer and player maker but a quality defender as well. When you watch him every week, you see how good he is overall.
What surprised me is that Liverpool is starting to win games in an ugly way, which we don’t see under Klopp. We used to lose games even when we are playing good football. under slot, the team might not be performing well in certain games but yet he’s able take the 3 points
Trent isn’t as straight forward an acquisition as you guys make us believe.. His defensive skills make him the biggest defensive liability when the team’s press isn’t effective.. He isn’t a top defender nor a world class midfield player. His skill set is truly unique, some sort of hybrid player with world class passing capabilities, one of a kind! His style of play suits Slots system perfectly, but I seriously doubt if he’ll fit into Ancelotti’s playing strategy in a similar way? My opinion: Not really… And with Ancelotti likely departure at the end of this season, Trent should honestly ask himself if, just like he asked himself last season, waiting for the new manager to be announced, might prove to be the best system prof to be in his best interest.. The top favourite for the Real job, Xabi Alonso, plays with 3 in the back, which isn’t really the system that suits Trent’s style of play.. Tough call tbh, a really tough call…
trent is going to have an very uncomfortable last 5 months of the season when he joins madrid on a bosman in jan. he recently said he had 'an elite mentality'. he proved once and for all just how disgustingly arrogant he is. he's also deluded if he thinks he's a central mid. I love the way Slot has told him to stay in his RB position. enough of indulging his delusions.
Trent is gonna have a hard time! Do you think so? I don’t😂 the fucking owners are the ones who deserve to be getting a hard time for allowing this to happen! Trent is blameless in all of this!
Last season Liverpool were in the title race until Michael Oliver bottled it and didn't give a pen when Doku clearly fouled Mac Allister. We also didn't get a pen against Arsenal which the PGMOL had to apologise for. We had 13 players out injured at one point and beat Chelsea in the league cup with academy players on in extra time. This is why the disrespect some of our fans are showing to Klopp is laughable. So far Slot has done OK, but Klopp got the same return from these fixtures we've played, the only difference being we beat Forest at home but lost to MU away. I think 3rd is where we'll finish, Rodri being out is already affecting MC and Arsenal don't look as tight at the back, but I would still expect both to have too much not to be the top two.
The team is in the right frameworks but the next five games after the international break will confirm their silverware potentials. They boys seems to be assimilating Arne Slot philosophy. Good for us YNWA 💪😃
Question? What makes those other teams title contenders, in front of us,i think we will be fine,I know it's silly to think that we can win the league every season,but I am lfc forever,I don't have or want to back another team I am not a ship jumper,I have been supporting this team forever,so there you go,I believe we win win the epl this season...
This is another “Is Palmer better than Messi?” podcast episode? We love to overreact, don’t we?! Let him be. We’ll know after some achievements. If not for PL and CL titles, Klopp would garner the same attention as an Avram Grant. Give Slot some breathing room.
We will know a lot more after these next ten fixtures… we either had an easy run of fixtures to begin the season which aided in our quick start or we are the real deal
I understand Oli Kay’s point about extending on older players, however VVD and Salah are worth a lot of money. It’s completely irresponsible to let £100m+ walk out the door for free. They couldn’t get one new player in, but they’re going to spend new money on replacing all three? It’s two years in a row that players have turned Liverpool down. At least if they extend, they can get money from transfer fees. Now it appears they have started extending contracts, starting with Quansah, I can only hope by January, Liverpool will extend on all three.
Liverpool with all the injuries last season finished 9 points behind City and 7 behind Arsenal, the main fault was away form and beating lower level teams. Aston Villa were 14 points Liverpool behind and apart from the manager leaving the squad is fundamentally the same. What is more likely improvement from the teams below or a title and champions league winning squad improving their performance. why would the team regress? I wonder on what basis “pundits” make these judgement calls.
Are Liverpool serious title contenders? Not yet. Between 2019 and 2022 based on manager and squad I expected us to be in the title race even before each season, I knew that there is only one, but big obstacle - City. Then obviously Arsenal started to catch us and eventually surpass us in the last two seasons, so now are two teams, who knows if there would be more in the near future, but last season after we overhauled our entire midfield, I hoped we can challenge and we did, but definitely did not expect it. Now, with a new manager, basically new training and management staff as well, again I can only hope we can challenge, but I can't have the expectations of Arne in his first season to make us title challengers. If he does, phenomenal job, but I will be surprised. We had a great start and that's about it, there's a lot to come and until the end of November/December we can't really know if we are as consistently good as City and Arsenal.
In my personal, uneducated opinion Gravenberch’s success is the result of the almost perfect partnership with Mac Allister. Those two look like they’ve been playing together since years..
Klopp’s early announcement definitely didn’t help, why would Trent, VVD and Mo signed a new deal without knowing who their new manager would be? That would’ve been bad player management, the great start of the season and personal touch and feel with the new boss was necessary for different reasons for Trent vs VVD & Mo. Would Trent, being a true Scouser, dare to leave on a free? Damaging the love of his life by doing so? How would the fans take that one?
If we lose Trent to Real then can we all just officially blame FSG? Or will Redmen TV or Laurence McKenna tell us to be quiet. This panel just confirmed what we’ve been saying.
Of course a club can only play who’s in front of them and all play all home and away and whatnot. That said, imho, it’s been a rather remarkably smooth transition. I hoped the lot would flop outta the gate. Time will tell (I adore clichés) and I look forward to my beloved Arsenal hosting this formidable lot a coupla days before Halloween. I suspect it’ll be a cracker. Hope and trust all terror showers down upon the current pretenders. 3-1 to the Arsenal! ✌🏻❤️🥂
Of course LFC can contend. As long as we keep getting results like we r now & Slot catches lightning in a bottle with his managerial genius at all the right times then yes we can do it. The business end of season in this League is nothing Arne has ever experienced.! Biggest of all will always be injuries, bcz I i dont think we can afford not to have our main guys for too long. Not into March April.
They've beaten the teams in front of them, but the teams in front of them have all been bottom-half. Of the two teams in the top half they played, they beat Brentford quite comfortably at home and lost at home to Forest. So colour me unimpressed. If they put away Chelsea, Arsenal, Brighton and Villa then we can start giving them some credit.
You are all assuming based off of biases There's a culture and way of doing things in liverpool - this isn't Utd manager merry go around drop off's down into mid table
Well, city is still the favorite though. How many times do we witness city overcome several points deficit in the last years to be crowned as the champion?
Trent has seen what happened with Gerrard there is no way on earth that trent will leave he's a scouser he'll be thinking of his legacy . Im not worried in the slightest
Trent should sign a deal with Liverpool and if Real Madrid prepared to pay Liverpool a large sum of money to release him ....that's a fair compromise....and Trent will be remembered as a Liverpool legend ! ...if he holds out and leaves on a free ...that will be a traitor move and Trent will have to balance that out on his concience...which i believe he has !! YNWA 😊
pre season UK media: Arne needs signings. Slot: No i don't, enough quality in the team 10 games later, UK media: Arne inherited a great team
In fairness, lots of Liverpool supporters were having a fit on social media all summer over Liverpool's lack of signings. By contrast most of the media were far more even-handed about Liverpool's chances than the fans. Obviously click-bait merchants and kids on social media will say anything to try and attract attention.
Liverpool fans kind of lost the plot when the Zubimendi deal fell through, forgetting that the back up 6 Endo just a few months before was the standout midfielder against City. The hysteria was laughable
@@tkjp999as an lfc fan, the fanbase is honestly quite embarrassing sometimes. Some of the worst recency bias of any club. If salah doesn’t score, even if he gets an assist, they’ll say he’s washed and we need to sell him. It’s insane.
@@Auriflamme But you are also talking about social media thus likely Twatter, which is populated by people that just want signings for the sake of it, and because the other teams with completely different needs were making signings left right and centre. And you also admit this by the end.
You are creating a contrast that isn't real. On neither side. No media outlet thought LFC were going to compete, and less so with no to one signings, and they have come to this realisation until this narrative changes yet again, most likely with injuries.
Fact of the matter is, that the squad was already very good, and it was pretty smart to not disrupt that too much, as the squad had 4 new midfield signings last season, all the while players like Quansah and Bradley made their entrance as well as building on Jones and Elliott. All of which would to some extent have their pathway blocked if there were new signings.
@@tkjp999 That is very true, but you also need to factor in that this was the only signing we had directly identified, and Hughes messed it up, when he didn't immediately use the buy-out clause, but fiddled with it for 3-4 weeks giving Real Sociedad time to persuade Zubimendi to stay.
Personally I would and stated pre-season that i would be fine with no signings, but when we had identified Zubimendi, it was a slap in the face, when we didn't land him, and even caused our keepers problems by getting a 4th keeper, when Kelleher already deserved his spot after Alisson.
Liverpool quietly competed for the title last season. Everyone was focusing on Man City and Arsenal. This year is the same story. Liverpool are a fantastic team.
I'd love to see them do. Last year they quietly competed, and rather loudly fell away towards the end. Let's hope for better this year. Although for slot to pull that off in his first yesr seems a tall order.
@@habatone It's always a tall order for winning a title. I only see three teams to have that kind of work ethic and attitude. Hopefully the no. increases. That said, I want Arsenal to win the title.
They didn't really though
Thank you. It is such an obvious point, but for some reason, it needs to be made.
@@davidmurphy2388 they led the league for a large part of the season, only to implode due to injuries, and the pressure of Klopp leaving, right at the end. Had they had as drama-free a season as arsenal did, they may well have won the whole thing
Step by step, we won't be disgruntled if Slot didn't hand us the price this term. No rush. However, when I see and listen to Slot talk, I'm more confident Liverpool can tear the big teams apart.
Gravenberch has been unreal
No he hasn't heysel fc are rats
I haven’t seen a better midfielder anywhere this season. Him and Palmer are the best players in the EPL this season.
Next 4 weeks after the international break will tell us a lot when they've got difficult fixture after difficult fixture coming.
Don't Liverpool thrive on big fixtures, though ?
@86Brasco Liverpool will only draw to arsenal but win the remaining 4 fixtures
@@86Brasco I agree, but if the players play like they did against Forest at home, consistently misplacing simple passes, top sides will punish us more often.
@@nostradamus986 naw … Arsenal 2 Liverpool 1 … the gunners midfield is going to eat their lunch
@@docjaramillowhat's funny is that Arsenal are a team that still haven't won shit all
I’ll be satisfied with top four and a run to the semis in the FA cup or UCL. I’d love to see Arne do well in knockouts. Be a good measure of how we're gonna do in those comps in the future. This season the focus needs to be on the squad and developing a style of play everyone can contribute to
I'd be disappointed if we didn't make top 3, City and Arsenal ok, Chelsea or Villa or Newcastle overtaking us, no way can't accept that
The wheels came off last season when all the players that had been over a short period of time post New Year, getting injuries+missing for Asia/AFCON came back, meaning they were not match fit and thrown into a well oiled, yet fatigued squad, and that completely collided, as it didn't happen gradually, but all at once - both in and out. Neither Arsenal nor City suffered from injuries to their core players or in a very limited space and number. Meaning their rotations were more natural, so even if Klopp did a complete master class in using his squad to perfection, he was extremely unlucky to suffer.
Then factor in that LFC also suffered from very controversial decisions by PGMOL, amongst which cost them games against Spurs, Arsenal and City to name the most prominent ones. When you factor in all these things, you can't be surprised that this squad is actually more than capable of not only standing toe to toe with the other two, but again compete on 4 fronts.
Also one of the players also had BOTH parents kidnapped by a national drug cartel, but that doesn't ever seem newsworthy as a thing that could affect the mentality and pressure on the squad.
@@siempra78cry me a river
Hahahahhaah copium at its finest. When arsenal smash you at the Emirates I will laugh my head off. You can't beat citeh or arsenal. Your fans hate Britain and give Liverpool a bad name even though none of yous come from here.
Then factor in Liverpool cheated against palace and forest last season and that proves all Liverpool fans are hypocrites.
@@RFC87bro you just sent three replies crying to a well constructed and fair analysis. You’re either a bot or a very very sad person
Gravenberch's shoulder drops are insane. he's developing into a young Patrick Veira
and he's more technically gifted then vieira
@@chirigiualbert9128 oh stop it!!!! Are you okay?? That sounds st*pid. Give the kid his flowers & give him time. Saying he is technically better than a GREAT like VIERA is dog shite!!!!
@@chirigiualbert9128 agreed mate
That chandelier is making Ayo look like ODB
lmfao
He's royalty 🎉
Ohhh baby I like it rawwww
Haha! Brilliant!
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I think Arne Slot is marvellous but don’t see us winning the league first season, definitely look forward to the bigger games to see how we do though but I imagine Man City take it home again
City are becoming weaker and weaker and both Arsenal and LFC are getting stronger and stronger. the thing keeping City afloat is low number of injuries and PGMOL.
I don't see how City will win the League without Rodri (who is out for the entire season) and De Bruyne who has his injury woes. but I could be wrong
@@janniknielsen9292 Blah, blah, blah. They'll make it five titles on the spin. Farmers league.
@@digitalaccessibilityacademy It is hard to compete in a corrupt league, where officials do everything in their power to leverage one team to win. Once it was the red side of Manchester, now it is the blue side. The league itself is the most competitive by a huge margin.
La liga is a joke. BL is a joke. Ligue 1 is a joke. Serie A is semi decent.
I've been loving this newlook Liverpool. It's so different but when it's on it's so pretty. WE are going to hit a rough patch or two this season. My hope is that we can finish top 4 and that we can get into the KO round for UCL. After a full campaign and when the dust has settled over who's staying and who's going, Slott will be able to identify the priorities and needs and i think we will find value in the market. I'm a hopeful dude, and i know that we are going to suffer and that's okay, the team needs to go through it to grow. One would have to be supremely arrogant to pick Liverpool to win the league this early on, so let's all take a breath and enjoy what we have and be grateful that we aren't dealing with dram you see at Chelsea or United. We are moving in the right direction. With speed. Love you guys.
As a City fan, this comment is pure class. Completely reasonable, pragmatic, and full of great insight.
10 games 9 wins ..6 clean sheets ...any team with those stats are not just in the title race they are favourites
My bro be humble for now, the only team to beat us is in the top ten the rest are below the top ten, we also lost at Anfield, our best performance gameplay wise was the last 1-0, we have not looked great and our opponents have been shocking, we got the results and we have been solid defensively, but the gameplay has not been great. Dont get too happy yet, the come down will be crazy. ATM anywhere from first to 5th, do not underestimate the fact that the only team we didn’t beat was a team in the top ten. They are in tenth.
Hahahahhaa who have you beat? You lost at home to forest you wool. What part of liverpool are you from lad? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@RFC87 I always found people who put laugh face to their own comments to be the biggest low life’s going, it’s the definition of looking for attention, how old are you, the end of the day, your team is below Liverpool in the table and yes we will see by the end, so 🤫
Ayos a great host by the way
Arne is cool , calm and collected , he's implementing his style and we have the players to switch , they seem fully on board with his ideas and trust in him , Yes a No6 is needed , however he puts his arm around Gravenberch and given him the confidence to perform , his man management is class and I fully believe in Arne and with a switched on fully fit Bajetic returning alongside Mac10 then ..🔥
The thing about beating the bottom half of the table is that those are the games that HAVE to be won to be in the title race. Can't beat all the bigger/harder teams then lose to Palace or Everton like last season. They aren't necessarily easy games but they're the best games to have to ensure Slot's vision gets implemented and the team get it down. Up the fuckin Reds.
As a United fan I do envy the smooth transition Liverpool have had since Klopp departed, I would not wish the anarchy that followed at our club since Sir Alex Ferguson departed, on any other club or their fan bases.
As an Arsenal fan I wish it on Gravechester everyday. Womanchester fans wished it on us for decades. So yeah, long may Baldchester's banter era continue 🤡
@@-VForValhalla-win something then talk. Every dog has its day
@@-VForValhalla- Bit brutal
As a Liverpool fan I just wanted to say thank you for your sentiment and I'd like to respond by saying how incredibly happy I am that United are floundering. Long may it continue.
@@I_am_nobody999 I think there can always be healthy respect in competition, however things have moved beyond football now, In trying to emulate the success of Liverpool in the 70s and 80s and United in the Premier league era, the monsters we have unleashed in the forms of state ownership has destroyed the very competitive spirit in it, it feels so manufactured nowadays.
Liverpool haven’t started yet. They have many gears to go. If slot finds those gears they myt b unstoppable
Agree, we're playing well in patches but still have a way to go adapting to his systems
@@seth1455 patches ? U see matches we r controlling almost the game
@@danieljose-tz2fj just look at the Palace game
James Pearce doesn't even pretend to listen to what other people say.
Yeah he is annoying and has an annoying voice
Hate his studied indifference to any other opinion
the situation with Trent, Virgil, & Mo's contracts is somewhat understandable given the discontinuity of sporting directors is perhaps not entirely down to the club what with the sporting directors leaving of their own volition & the time it took to nail down Edwards' return.
The closing remarks there is quite funny to me. "...a bumpy run after the international break..."? I don't see it that way. It's going to be a very interesting run that Liverpool fans will enjoy a lot. If you doubt me, check Arne Slots statistics against top sides in the eredivise and come back for a chat. He's the master of winning big games even with below average players against top sides. So with the materials he has at his disposal at Liverpool, I think it's going to be easy-peezy for him. We saw a glimpse of that in pre-season against Arsenal where he beat Arteta with Van den berg and quansah in defence (for context, Arsenal had more first team players starting that game than Liverpool did and it wasn't like Arteta didn't want the win, he just faced a superor game plan). Can't wait for those exciting run of games to be honest.
😂😂😂
People thought that AC Milan 3-1 win was a hoax,😂
You Know Your Football...🙌🙌
Love that dig at United lmao in the intro 10/10
Tbf even tho ppl say liverpool have less resources than city/arsenal i personally think our players is our biggest resource. Having arguably the nr1 keeper, right back, left back, centreback and right winger in the world means we should be able to win it all
robertson might not be the best at the moment, but he is the top assisting defender of all time, if trent hasnt caught him yet
" even tho ppl say liverpool have less resources than /arsenal"
Those people are idiots to even think Arsenal are ahead of liverpool in anyway
Problem isn't our starting 11. The problem is what happens when people get hurt.
@@asparapee4213 The same can be said for Arsenal, even Man City this season.
You are right, so its important we win something major with them this season. Do you think FSG will replace them sufficiently?
The title race is between Liverpool and VAR/PGMOL.
I'm not dismissing Arne Slot's impact on liverpool as clearly he's had an impact on how we control games etc,but don't forget the team Klopp left behind. I can't remember off hand a team/club that was in such a good position during a managerial change. From top to bottom everything was in a perfect place for Arne Slot to come straight in and get on with the business of playing football. I think the only thing that could have been better was a £150m transfer kitty and a number 6 lined up and ready to go!
Listening to James is horrible and I’m a Liverpool fan
If we manage to squeak thru this season without injuries and blind refereeing .....we could do very well !!YNWA 😊
I'd have been happy with 5th in his first year, but the start we've had is raising that in my head to top 3-4 now.
Get to December still top with a few point lead and I'll raise that further in my head. lol
Omg… why do people say Liv has not faced any serious games? Man U at Trafford? Milan at San siro?? Come off it
Gravenberch is not lightweight. He's 6'3" and looking very solid. Klopp didn't fully trust him for whatever reason.
As Liverpool fan,am pretty excited for what Arne Slot is currently doing. A team coached by J.klopp for 8 years won everything when leaving &when heard news of that gap was going to about to be filled by Arne Slot,good coach but not proved at higher level I was immediately thinking "How many years our transition will take?". At the beginning of season,No one is for microseconds imagine that Arne Slot can win 9/10 games. Yes relatively the team not stable but still collecting points still has identity. Yes the team yet didn't face top teams of the league but that is not my worry,for new coach come into big responsibility in competitive league like EPL,not brought new players in,the main obstacles&disaster is loosing to lower table teams week in week out.
The last time they won the Prem, Allison was out about a month with Adrian between the sticks, right? Good omen?
Easily yes
Settled squad
Top manager
Anyone who doesn't think they'll at least challenge is delusional (or Arsenal fans/both)
Literally every Arsenal fan sees Liverpool as a title challenger. Only United fans have been talking down your chances of winning the league.
@@Euclides287 AFTV is not even taking Liverpool seriously
Settled squad??? I know we've almost certainly got them for the full season but I wouldn't call the 3 best players running down their contracts a settled squad
In my experience as a player in the US the best coaches I played for were able to see little tiny parts of an individual’s game that needed changing but focused most on maximizing an individual’s strengths. It’s the coaches who you sense believe you can be better because they see your potential and believe in the players ability to achieve that potential. The tough coaches who seemed like they enjoyed making us run for the sake of “fitness” or discipline never made me any better on a game day
if someone could teach Darwin to play on the shoulder of the last defender and not go too early will have made a stellar contribution
to the team
Great assessment of Liverpool guys,keep it up,
You fail to mention that these 3players would most likely see if 1st of all they like the new manager b4 putting pan to paper.There’s a massive difference between playing for someone you like & respect as opposed to some one you don’t like
Ayo looks like he has grown horns
don't think Arne Slot would consider his team is quite the PL title contender just yet.
The coming games are really challenging. He did mention that wait until year end to find out more.
Love your podcast, Ayo. GOYG
It’ll be more interesting to see him rebuild without Salah, VVD, TAA and Alisson next season. That’ll be his true test, and will really show his mettle removing everything Klopp has done so far. From listening to him speak, his demeanor, calm and analytical nature, he’s probably the best guy for that job.
I bet they all stay. Something is brewing here.
@@saturdaysequalsyouth dunno about Alisson. Mamardashvilli arrives next year, and while the prospect for two top keepers fighting for a spot is a wonderful conundrum, Alisson is very likely to leave
@@cyn1clcynideAlison was spoken to about this signing. Alison has said he's very happy at Liverpool.
Who says they are going? Most likely all 3 will re sign
If you think emotionally, they should all sign an extension. But by that same reasoning, why haven’t they already? Negotiations typically start with 2-3 years to go, like with Ibra and Jarrell. If it has run down to the last 7-8 months before expiration, and 2 months before the start of the pre-contract window, emotions aside, there’s more possibility of leaving than staying. Love for Liverpool aside, riding it so close to January, if these players don’t wait and test the waters, it is financially stupid, which the agents are not.
I’m just saying, taper the expectations a bit, otherwise it’ll be like the Zubimendi transfer with the belief that he was most likely going to sign for Liverpool.
I'm a Liverpool fan and I'm obviously quite happy with how seamlessly Slot has "slotted" in. But until we face Chelsea, City or Arsenal I honestly have no clue how his football stands up. Jury is still out on title contenders for me
all 3 of the pundits are interesting.. cheers 🍻
Of the three players nearing the end of their contract, I think Van Dijk is the hardest to replace. With Trent, there are no similar players so they would need to go with a tactical variation. They could go the way City and Arsenal have been going and play essentially pacey centrebacks in the full back position as attacking fullbacks come at a premium. The more obvious option would be Frimpong who apparently has a tempting release clause.
With Salah, Cole Palmer would be an interesting option, especially if Chelsea continue to underperform and have PSR issues. The more realistic option is that they try to make up his numbers in the aggregate. Bring in Viktor Gyökeres to play through the middle and play Jota or Chiesa from the right with Diaz/Gakpo LW and Nunez as the backup striker.
With van Dijk, the heir apparent is Saliba but that is not going to happen. Bastoni or Bremer would be good options but would the squad lack leadership with van Dijk and Trent leaving? They could even go for a left sided CB like Bastoni who could also play LB and a young CB option like Antonio Silva or Ousmane Diomande. That would give them Konate, Gomez, Quansah, Bastoni (?) and Silva (?) as options for the four positions. Adding a player like Zubimendi in front would help top stabilise things further.
With the past successes of Michael Edwards I think it is more exciting than concerning what they do in this situation. I would like Trent to stay as a local player but if van Dijk and Salah leave, the club will need to spend big to replace them adequately. I think the following would be a league challenging team:
Allison/Marmadashvilli
Trent-Konate-Silva-Bastoni
Gravenberch-Zubimendi
Jota-MacAllister-Diaz
Gyökeres
No doubt great start to the season. Slot is using the players well. But we have keep it grounded.
And having all said, I still think Liverpool still required 1-2 defensive signing. Be it central def or def mid. Konate is also very injury prone.
We may not be giving alot of big chances away but past few games we have giving away alot of shots at goal.
Gravenberch may be Frankie-esque but he is no Rodri or Kante.
Let's see what Liverpool can do against the really giant boys with Slot.
If Liverpool hadn’t beaten Utd, Brentford and Bournemouth, these team’s would have been top half. 🤷🏽♂️
Come back at the end of Dec and we will talk again.With all due respect Liverpool has not played against a top 4 team yet
Way, way to soon to discuss any title contenders. League has only just begun.
Delusional Man U fans think that way too 😂
We’ve been unlucky with cup draws, in both a sense of league cup and champions league.
2 prem teams for the first 2 rounds of the league cup and pretty much the best seeds from each tier in the champs league.
Injuries will dictate how well we’ll do over the next 2 months.
Us , City , Arsenal , ( the usual TBF) but with Chelsea looking like they're turning up every week and Villa really progressing then it's more open title wise imo , im not saying Villa or Chelsea will win league but they're deffo gonna be there or there abouts , to get a Newly promoted team on the opening day of the season (away) UTD away , Milan away is a decent test for any new manager ....and he's passed it YNWA
Are there bigger tests to come, lads? Important question that I’m surprised you didn’t mention. Maybe you could have used the word ‘caveat’ or something.
Do you want to know why other top teams aren't Liverpool's problem?? Because it's the same Liverpool players that decimated City at Anfield with Rodri and KDB on the field. Remember they're even better than last season.
Oli Kay's voice is so soothing!
1. Can only beat what’s in front of you
2. Pre season “he’s gonna struggle without a CB, DM and FWD.
3. Now he’s inherited a great squad?
However we will see in the next part there’s a difficult few fixtures coming
Mature discussion gentlemen ....thanks! !! YNWA 😊
Love Ayo's tiara😅
No. They are not there yet
As a Liverpool fan, I wouldn’t begrudge Trent going to Madrid - I’d be quite happy for him - because the level of disrespect and mockery he has had in England has been completely out of proportion. He is not only a brilliant passer and player maker but a quality defender as well. When you watch him every week, you see how good he is overall.
What surprised me is that Liverpool is starting to win games in an ugly way, which we don’t see under Klopp. We used to lose games even when we are playing good football. under slot, the team might not be performing well in certain games but yet he’s able take the 3 points
Trent isn’t as straight forward an acquisition as you guys make us believe.. His defensive skills make him the biggest defensive liability when the team’s press isn’t effective.. He isn’t a top defender nor a world class midfield player. His skill set is truly unique, some sort of hybrid player with world class passing capabilities, one of a kind! His style of play suits Slots system perfectly, but I seriously doubt if he’ll fit into Ancelotti’s playing strategy in a similar way? My opinion: Not really… And with Ancelotti likely departure at the end of this season, Trent should honestly ask himself if, just like he asked himself last season, waiting for the new manager to be announced, might prove to be the best system prof to be in his best interest.. The top favourite for the Real job, Xabi Alonso, plays with 3 in the back, which isn’t really the system that suits Trent’s style of play.. Tough call tbh, a really tough call…
trent is going to have an very uncomfortable last 5 months of the season when he joins madrid on a bosman in jan. he recently said he had 'an elite mentality'. he proved once and for all just how disgustingly arrogant he is. he's also deluded if he thinks he's a central mid. I love the way Slot has told him to stay in his RB position. enough of indulging his delusions.
Trent is gonna have a hard time! Do you think so? I don’t😂 the fucking owners are the ones who deserve to be getting a hard time for allowing this to happen! Trent is blameless in all of this!
Pearce acting like assistant sporting director of Liverpool.
Last season Liverpool were in the title race until Michael Oliver bottled it and didn't give a pen when Doku clearly fouled Mac Allister. We also didn't get a pen against Arsenal which the PGMOL had to apologise for. We had 13 players out injured at one point and beat Chelsea in the league cup with academy players on in extra time. This is why the disrespect some of our fans are showing to Klopp is laughable. So far Slot has done OK, but Klopp got the same return from these fixtures we've played, the only difference being we beat Forest at home but lost to MU away. I think 3rd is where we'll finish, Rodri being out is already affecting MC and Arsenal don't look as tight at the back, but I would still expect both to have too much not to be the top two.
Yes they are.
The team is in the right frameworks but the next five games after the international break will confirm their silverware potentials.
They boys seems to be assimilating Arne Slot philosophy. Good for us
YNWA 💪😃
Well, they're top of the league and with the same exact squad were top of the league for a kot if last season, so.. obviously yes!
Heavy metal Klopp is kick and rush 2.0, Arne is total football 3.0 and it will get a lot better, he just started
Question? What makes those other teams title contenders, in front of us,i think we will be fine,I know it's silly to think that we can win the league every season,but I am lfc forever,I don't have or want to back another team I am not a ship jumper,I have been supporting this team forever,so there you go,I believe we win win the epl this season...
Get yourself a proper podcast microphone James!
Diaz revival is astonishing as well.
This is another “Is Palmer better than Messi?” podcast episode? We love to overreact, don’t we?! Let him be. We’ll know after some achievements. If not for PL and CL titles, Klopp would garner the same attention as an Avram Grant. Give Slot some breathing room.
The thing with a wage budget is that the more you pay Salah and VVD, the less you can afford to buy a Zubimendi or other new transfers
I think what nobody has mentioned is he was already in Liverpool the whole summer iirc? He really had time to settle in and see the setup.
We will know a lot more after these next ten fixtures… we either had an easy run of fixtures to begin the season which aided in our quick start or we are the real deal
Well, the season really begins after the international break.
They beat Brentford who are 9th.
I understand Oli Kay’s point about extending on older players, however VVD and Salah are worth a lot of money.
It’s completely irresponsible to let £100m+ walk out the door for free.
They couldn’t get one new player in, but they’re going to spend new money on replacing all three? It’s two years in a row that players have turned Liverpool down.
At least if they extend, they can get money from transfer fees.
Now it appears they have started extending contracts, starting with Quansah, I can only hope by January, Liverpool will extend on all three.
Liverpool with all the injuries last season finished 9 points behind City and 7 behind Arsenal, the main fault was away form and beating lower level teams. Aston Villa were 14 points Liverpool behind and apart from the manager leaving the squad is fundamentally the same. What is more likely improvement from the teams below or a title and champions league winning squad improving their performance. why would the team regress? I wonder on what basis “pundits” make these judgement calls.
Are Liverpool serious title contenders? Not yet. Between 2019 and 2022 based on manager and squad I expected us to be in the title race even before each season, I knew that there is only one, but big obstacle - City. Then obviously Arsenal started to catch us and eventually surpass us in the last two seasons, so now are two teams, who knows if there would be more in the near future, but last season after we overhauled our entire midfield, I hoped we can challenge and we did, but definitely did not expect it.
Now, with a new manager, basically new training and management staff as well, again I can only hope we can challenge, but I can't have the expectations of Arne in his first season to make us title challengers. If he does, phenomenal job, but I will be surprised. We had a great start and that's about it, there's a lot to come and until the end of November/December we can't really know if we are as consistently good as City and Arsenal.
In my personal, uneducated opinion Gravenberch’s success is the result of the almost perfect partnership with Mac Allister. Those two look like they’ve been playing together since years..
Slot seems to me to be the signing of the season for Liverpool ! YNWA 😊🙏
Klopp’s early announcement definitely didn’t help, why would Trent, VVD and Mo signed a new deal without knowing who their new manager would be? That would’ve been bad player management, the great start of the season and personal touch and feel with the new boss was necessary for different reasons for Trent vs VVD & Mo. Would Trent, being a true Scouser, dare to leave on a free? Damaging the love of his life by doing so? How would the fans take that one?
I think they are the third best team in the league, have some mistakes in them but if the best slip up you can gain from that
If we lose Trent to Real then can we all just officially blame FSG? Or will Redmen TV or Laurence McKenna tell us to be quiet. This panel just confirmed what we’ve been saying.
I don‘t think Hughes should be pitied for the chance to manage these contracts. It‘s a terrific job.
Well, he came with rave reviews. Now let's see what his made of.
The Madrid Adidas link totally ignores the fact that next season liverpool will be an adidas team
Of course a club can only play who’s in front of them and all play all home and away and whatnot. That said, imho, it’s been a rather remarkably smooth transition. I hoped the lot would flop outta the gate. Time will tell (I adore clichés) and I look forward to my beloved Arsenal hosting this formidable lot a coupla days before Halloween. I suspect it’ll be a cracker. Hope and trust all terror showers down upon the current pretenders. 3-1 to the Arsenal! ✌🏻❤️🥂
Of course LFC can contend. As long as we keep getting results like we r now & Slot catches lightning in a bottle with his managerial genius at all the right times then yes we can do it. The business end of season in this League is nothing Arne has ever experienced.!
Biggest of all will always be injuries, bcz I i dont think we can afford not to have our main guys for too long. Not into March April.
Yes
They've beaten the teams in front of them, but the teams in front of them have all been bottom-half. Of the two teams in the top half they played, they beat Brentford quite comfortably at home and lost at home to Forest. So colour me unimpressed. If they put away Chelsea, Arsenal, Brighton and Villa then we can start giving them some credit.
Nice to see you got dressed up for the occasion Jimbo
Top LAD Proper Slotter 💪😉👍
You are all assuming based off of biases
There's a culture and way of doing things in liverpool - this isn't Utd manager merry go around drop off's down into mid table
I didn't pick up on a bias. Please explain.
Well, city is still the favorite though. How many times do we witness city overcome several points deficit in the last years to be crowned as the champion?
Top 4 looking possible ...anything more will be a bonus !! YNWA 😊
Trent has seen what happened with Gerrard there is no way on earth that trent will leave he's a scouser he'll be thinking of his legacy . Im not worried in the slightest
Odd how so much time is spent discussing contracts.
Let see how they do vs arsenal, Chelsea, citeh,...
Chelsea will be battered at Anfield.
@@prabalhazarika2805 I hope so!
Trent should sign a deal with Liverpool and if Real Madrid prepared to pay Liverpool a large sum of money to release him ....that's a fair compromise....and Trent will be remembered as a Liverpool legend ! ...if he holds out and leaves on a free ...that will be a traitor move and Trent will have to balance that out on his concience...which i believe he has !! YNWA 😊
Big pity for Spurs having him turn them down.
Shows how sensible he is. Spurs are rubbish.
Has a dutchman ever won the Premier league? If not then its more bad news for ten Hag with Slot and his team behaving the way they are😖 #stilltenhagin
Some fans have really low expectations 🤦♂️