For the curious ones that are too lazy to type in the coordinates on the back of the plate (25.124839 N 121.471145 E): It points to an Asus office in Taiwan - you're welcome ;-)
we have a few listed here in Australia, prices are all over the place as the Sapphire RX6800XT Nitro+ & Powercolor RX6800XT Red Dragon are cheaper than ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte & MSI RX6800 versions Ps the comparison to RX6800 is not a spelling mistake, Sapphire & Powercolor XT are cheaper than the other NON XT
@@rizkijuanda85 Yeah it is very interesting the AMD Only partners are competing on price with the lower tier of the others, I wonder if Powercolor, Sapphire & XFX are getting a Huge discount on GPU Die & MEM?
@@krizby87 Pee pee poo poo That's like saying "faster than any nVidia card in AMD flavoring title X. Or "OCd 3090 is as fast as FSR enabled game with a 6800!" Which are utter nonsense bad faith random claims.
@@krizby87 3070 can even't keep up with the 6800, dlss isn't gonna save it. the 6800 xt oc lc kept up with even the 3090 and beating it in some, now just think how much faster the 6900 xt is gonna be.
@@chrislawson3418 vega 64 performance per watt is fine if you undervolt it. My vega 64 runs at 240-260W while giving 5-10% higher than stock performance. Its efficiency is comparable to 1080.
But a hybrid? If I have an AIO cooler, I want it to remove heat from a spreader. If there's fans on the card, I don't want a pump and water. It combines all the drawbacks, I can see why someone would buy into a compact AIO aesthetics but not why you compromise on a largeish card plus radiator. As soon as there's a non hybrid which matches thermal performance this idea looks silly.
@@JhanSolo332 go watch derbaur's video. His red devil is air cooled and hitting the same speeds. Plenty of these cards could hit faster speeds if they weren't vbios limited to create segmentation.
@@FirleFarms Speed isn't temperature. The other cards are 20 degrees warmer, that's why it's liquid cooled. I can guarantee they knew about the clock limits long before they finalized the decision to do a card with an AIO.
@@HeloisGevit nah, 6800xt is nearly as fast, and it has 6 extra GB of VRAM, 6800xt all the way on this GPU cycle, assuming of course you can get your hands on one
@@zuckdaddy1596 I prefer the 3080, it's better at 4k which I game at, as well as ray tracing and DLSS. By the time the VRAM becomes a bottleneck, I would have upgraded.
@@zuckdaddy1596 Don't just base it on amount of memory - the 3080 has GDDR6X with 48% higher memory bandwidth and a 320bit bus as opposed to the 6800XT's 256bit bus. Thus far at 4k they perform about the same, so it seems neither are currently running into memory issues at all, and probably won't for some time. Remember also that it's unlikely any game will have 10GB+ textures on screen at once - memory preloads and caches textures, so having faster memory that can load and unload information faster is likely just as effective as more memory. 3070 vs 6800 is a much more valid debate.
@@burnsyd17 I watched that as well before this video. They really didn’t go into detail about the card just quick thermals and some benchmarks. Looks like a great gpu!
AMD really has to unlock the limit of overclocking for this card to reach its potential (even at MSRP). Otherwise, stick with the regular AIB cards (if you're really focused on value)
But if they cant code drivers that dont crash with higher speeds how can they? Sure eventually someone will release a stable bios so you can flash your card.
5:58 Steve: "Why asus didn't sleve the fan cables together is beyond me" Me: So I can use my own fans such as noctuas or on my other system corsair fans.
@@Arjun-eb1yc You need to design that in the architecture. You can have a wide pipeline with huge parallelism but you loose clock speed. Or have highly clocked smaller pipelines to end up with the same performance. (its obviously way more complex than that but I'm just trying to explain) AMD's old cards (GCN1-5) where huge parallel monsters but games don't profit from that, to get anywhere with GCN in games they needed to push the clocks to fill the buffer faster.(that clock pushing was the reason for the higher power draw from AMD, in data centers where the parallelism was needed there more reasonable) Nvidia's chips use less (now with ampere that has changed a bit, now they have a huge amount of weaker pipelines) but faster pipelines that can be fed faster to execute a instruction. RDNA1 has reduced the GCN buffer so that you only needed 2 instructions to start calculations , with GCN you needed to fill up 4 instructions before ANY calculation was triggered. RDNA2 I'm not sure about but it seems reasonably to assume that they have removed the buffer filling requirement entirely and reduced the pipeline count for each CU but the faster clock makes up for that. its all a game of trade offs.
For the last week, i watched way too many videos on 6800XT, 6900XT, 3080 or 3080TI and could not decide which one to go for. Had a strict budget and my old card had to fund 50 % of the cost of the new one. I previously used an AORUS GeForce RTX™ 2080 Ti XTREME WATERFORCE 11G AIO and i loved that card and served me well for 2 years but showing really can't do 4K very well. I ended setting my sight on another AIO liquid cooling GPU as i need a serious boost in FPS for 4K gaming. Now I'm 4 hours in, here is my take 1) This card is whisper quiet underload even in my Thermaltake open case . Love the auto fan off mode. 2) No issue with pump noise or coilwhine so far, touch wood. 3) Steve is right, the cables sucks, looks ridicious. Performance is far better than I expected in my rig as I have had lots of issues running the 2080 TI lately, I think it’s nvidia driver and windows 10 update issues. 4) Lighting on this card looks great and I’m don’t particularly like RGB. i set it to a single colour (static) - I posted a quick video on my account if you want to see what it looks like. 5) The tubes are very warm, i don't recall the AORUS had this issue but to be fair, those fans on the radiator were constantly on. I took a leap of faith going to the RED team, last time I went with AMD was back 2015, freaking wasting money pairinng two Radeon R9 295X2 in crossfire (4 GPUs) to get Witcher 3 run above 100fps in 3440x1440.. LOL - that project ended in tears and i ended going to Nvidia on a single card ever since. I highlightly recommend this card if you are into 4K gaming, want better than 60fps 4K performance, freesync premium, whisper quiet AIO liquid cooling and willing to forgo Ray Tracing & DLSS and lower the graphical settings. Also based on current ridiculous prices in OZ, this was far the cheapest AIO liquid cool cards I could find, overclocks great as well. HDMI2.1 is a blessing too, can't believe i can finally use my LG CX48 OLED display (120hz, HDR, RGB 4:4:4) to its fullest without any sacrifices. See you later Displayport 1.4....
@@TJ.85 You absolute clown, what bath salts are you on. You realize, I, they guy you’ve just been shitting on (on two separate threads) have ONLY owned Nvidia cards. I have a 2060 in my system rn, and literally no one bought Turing
Well, or people who think he needs to stop talking out of his ass. AMD isn't price fixing. That would involve them making an agreement with NVidia to price Big Navi so as to not undercut Ampere(no, AIBs putting out expensive 6800 XTs does not even come close to the definition of price fixing on the part of AMD). I think he needs to wise up and stop talking stupid shit about things he doesn't understand.
@@TJ.85 "Why is the only cards getting an oc radeon? And why 0 testing with games that use and show why you might want things like DLSS and proper ray tracing?" oc the radeon is to show how stable is not the performance per say, if you would had known anything about oc you would know that with a bad oc you can lose performance, the video is about the radeon card not nvidia card a proper ray tracing game means neither nvidia's ray tracing nor amd's ray tracing, if nvidia is pulling another gameworks on ray tracing.... DLSS? just lower your resolution same shit... fake 4k for days i guess salt gets everyone at some point lol
Great video Steve. AMD needs to remove that limit on RDNA2 or a custom bios is needed asap. Imagine 3ghz+ overclocks with all the cooling in the world, they'd be breaking records and power looks decent. And that's just the 6800xt.
AMD 6800 series is AWOL in India. No card available *anywhere* The whole lineup of 3060ti/3070/3080/3090 is now available at most places. Prices are inflated though.
As far as pricing, I have seen, on NewEgg anyway, that most of the pricing for the models (above the base models) the prices have creeped up. MSI, Gigabyte etc prices have jumped up $10 to $30 as far as I can tell.
yeah probably and for sure it will have higher price. In the past amd/nvidia drop their msrp when a card from competitor is threatening their product but today they just gonna release a Ti/Super/XT/whatever... and price it even higher. What a great day for GPU consumers eh...
I wouldn't be surprised if they hand pick the review samples but I do have this card and I can clock mine to 2.76Ghz although it isn't 100% stable, at 2.7 though it's solid no problem.
@ Cheap health care, long time to treatment, the last time I compiled statistical information. Forget healthcare when wound bleed out happens because hospitals can't triage more than its beds.
Apparently what happened with pricing is down to logistics. AIBs usually ship cards on commercial flights since there's usually extra room and it's cheap, but due to COVID, commercial flights are in short supply and are more expensive. This leaves them with shipping expensively by air, or shipping for cheap by ship. Shipping by ship would mean the cards would arrive after Christmas, so for now, they're kinda forced to ship by plane, the cost of which is passed down to the consumer.
Yep, people ignore logistics impacts on pricing. A cost-effective boat shipment from where the cards are made in Taiwan etc to USA is like 6 weeks overall, probably 4 to Australia, lord knows how long to EU/UK (8?).
@@NarekAvetisyan Then again, is that really worth the price of another gpu? I certainly shop at the lower end but a bit better rtx and dlss can't really justify non-flagship card catching up to a flagship card while still having plenty of headroom and only (as far as we know) being artificially limited.
@_Nism0 the encoder works just fine at 1440p ultrawide (using Vega myself). The drivers are very stable, the only crashes I get are because I have pushed my infinity fabrik mclk to the absolute limit it would go, rtx will soon go the way of hairworks and DLSS is postprocessing, which I never use anyway
Thanks for your hard works Steve, cant wait for your rx 6800/xt round up. Pricing are coming down in here so I think I should be able to buy one in mid q1 next year.
As far as increased prices are concerned - MLID speculated that this could be due to increased logistics costs in the short term due to fewer suitable transport flights being available. (Ships take longer and have not fully arrived and in stock, yet.)
Just imagine if this card wouldn't be power limited to +15% max and 2,8Ghz clock in the power tables. I dont see 2,9 Ghz as a big problem. But yeah. AMD doesnt want to cannibalize the 6900XT
You know you can change these settings with MPT fron igor's lab right? You can basically turn a 6800xt to 6900xt with power limit increase, watts, core clock etc.
Look, I wanted a Big Navi when RDNA 2 launched. I sold my 5700 XT; which I really enjoyed and then got stuck right when the prices went through the ROOF. That said, the XFX Qick 6700 XT Black I just installed today is a Stone Cold Killer!! I'm getting boost of 2884Mhz on a 1st attempt, moderate goal setting OC and it does it as 51c Max. That's knucking futz and it kills games maxed out at 1440p and 4k. My 3dmark numbers are #1 for a 6700 XT period in half of the tests and I'm rocking an "old" Zen 2 3950X. Versus the ~$500 more RTX 3070 or RX 6800 on the current market I'm getting better performance than the 3070 around half the time and am beating ~%50 of the RX 6800's that have their test results in their database. Yes, I want Big Navi and I would take a 3070 (though that 8gb buffer sucks; especially the way I'd run it..), but Do Not right off Navi 22 or the 6700 XT. I compared it to my old Super OC 1080Ti too and the efficiency and performance is absolutely representative of Two Generations of (abiet different brand) architectures and node advances. I'd highly recommend this card and I was Skeptical 💯
Yeah and to think that this is the cut down version, meaning worse quality silicon compared to a perfect grade 6900xt, since AMD BIOS locked it to 2.8Ghz and red devil, which is an air cooled 6800xt managed to get that means there is more headroom even on worse quality silicon, imagine unlocked perfect grade 6900xt.
Because the Ampere architecture is limited by how high it can overclock due to the Samsung process node. Similarly why Zen chips didn't overclock much a few years ago. Its not a thermal constraint per se. Its how the silicon responds to higher clocks.
Even if we go with AMDs MSRP, this card, just like the rest are totally overpriced for the performance! Just because Performance was stagnating for the past few years, doesn't mean its ok to charge so much money for performance that is to be expected so many years later!!
Here's what I'm sure is going on with these high-end-only Radeon launches. The silicon appears to be extremely limited relative to demand. That means the pure market "auction" (scalper) price is high. The board partners, holding the limited silicon, have 3 options. They can sell basic near-MSRP cards for near MSRP, and make a little bit of money on that precious silicon. They could also make basic cards and sell at the full price the market can bear, which is super unpopular and draws comparisons to scalping. Or, they can wrap that precious silicon in super über top-end glitz, and THEN sell it for much closer to market price without looking like absolute wankers. When supply can't meet demand, there is pressure to push upmarket. Selling basic 6800XTs right now makes no sense; they'd just be leaving money on the table that would be 100% claimed by scalpers, who only exist to bridge gaps between MSRP and market price. Either Asus gets the money, or a scalper does. It's just the way it is when there's a gap. Happens with cars too; if there's a wait for a hot new car, all of the first batch are loaded models. I'm actually really surprised that Nvidia partners aren't doing the same; that tells me that Nvidia are probably issuing some big "thou shalt nots" and "or elses" to their partners.
Cooling on this card is really chinese 5$ junk. Only enthusiasts with no custom water loop will buy watercooled card with copper waterblock and straight tubes. Anyway good version from EVGA, Asus or Zotac + EKWB waterblock will be cheaper and more reliable. That's why only high end cards for me are Aorus Waterforce extreme and Liquid Devil 🙌
They would be releasing their more expensive ones first because, due to the limited supply, they know that a) people will buy them regardless of the price; and b) it's the only way they can actually make decent money, since there are fewer cards, so the price has to be higher.
Heard a few people suggest the choice of shipping the high end models first, at such high prices, is due to shipping costs around this time of year. It's a lot easier to justify shifting up MSRP to account for expensive air freight on the high end cards compared to the budget models. Apparently much of the shipping capacity has been bought up by bigger companies like Apple to secure stock for holiday shopping. Not sure how much water this holds but it would explain the situation.
00:52 That's a pretty bad false dichotomy you've got there. The most likely real reason for the inflated prices is increased costs in the supply chain, including parts and shipping. You're really being irresponsible by assuming you know the correct answer, without even mentioning the most likely one.
its not a power limt. its a hardcoded limit set by amd in the bios. Der8auer forced the vcore to about 1.3 and just cant get the thing over 2.8ghz. a leaker on twitter has a 6800XT and a 6900XT and has read the bios of both. 6800XT limit is 2.8 and the 6900XT has a limit of 3ghz.
@@andrew279cz4 the appeal is the not upgrading your psu and putting the 50 series in a prebuilt, but by the sounds of it the 50 series is gonna need extra power
@@Isaacminer1 true yes. I never owned an NVIDIA graphics card, but, based on what I've seen from my previous and current AMD cards, my previous RX 550 vs my current RX 560, the RX 550 doesn't require external PSU power i.e six or eight pin connectors are not required
MSRP isn't dead, they are just having stock issues just like nvidia. They are just scaling the price by demand while nvidia is keeping their prices static.
Because people are stupid enough to buy new cards at inflated prices. It's not a big greedy company. Plenty of gamers are inpatient and they're the real problem. I can survive couple months till stock will be decent.
I am a bit concerned about the durability of the card itself... As we know, all in liquid cooler systems usually last about 4-5 years before having problems with the pump or with liquid temperature. Im wondering if there is a way to swap the cooler with a new one, once the old one passes out
I bought the Aorus 2080 Super Waterforce last year with a similar All-In-One liquid cooled solution; and it too had the messy wiring going up to the fans. I wanted to synchronize all the fans in my case, so i replaced them anyways. But to do this I had to open up the graphics card to unplug the fans from the PCB... And this had me extremely nervous, as it was a brand new $800 card that required me to lose its warranty/return policy. But I did it, and it definitely cleaned up the look of my PC. The entire case was lined with Corsair QL series fans, instead of having a couple of oddball Gigabyte Aorus branded RGB fans mixed in.
There's models being rushed out for Christmas but the console launches and logistics problems due to crash in passenger flight shipping cargo cause delays. Really Nvidia screwed the pooch by not giving people a reason to buy in spring/summer. The CPU market is less crazy as new SKUs are common.
Love your videos Steve. Nice to see world leading Aussie content in the UA-cam tech space. Don't think I would bother with this card myself, even if available at a sane price down under. I'm too much of an old school gamer to need ultimate frame rates and massive resolutions. As a 3D CAD jockey by trade I do need to upgrade my aging GTX 1080(non-Ti) soon, though it still performs well in most situations, the real-time rendering visualisation stuff I do could do with a boost. I'll be looking at what can double my performance within a 250 watt power budget. Reference 6800 looks like it might be ideal, or possibly 6700 when it's out. If nVidia get Ampere on 7nm soon that would be worth a look too. I might be spoilt for choice in the new year. My budget is about a grand AU, so here's hoping prices normalise once availability increases.
Now this is some great looking attempt at a foray into LC GPU AIO by GPU manufacturers... a few fixes here and there and you might end up with a great thing to place within O11DMini, with the CPU cooled with a top mounted 360mm AIO... almost like it was meant for these O11D cases ;)
The card is great but that blower fan not only is useless but it also affects design, thickness and noise level. With 14 efficient phases (TDA21472) for the Vcore on a card that draws less than 300w TGP, you don' t need any active cooling for the pcb.
I hope you get to review MSI RTX 3060 Ti Twin Fan (not Ventus). I really like the subdued aesthetic, hopefully it’s not crap at cooling or overtly loud.
You forget that you also can overclock a 3090... As an example a Strix can use 480 Watts... So, no chance there for AMD... Those things that everyone always forgets are the features and the software... DLSS, RayTracing, Hardwareencoding, Hardware acceleration... In all of those things AMD still has no chance.
At 1440p for sure, though at 4K nvidia wins in most benchmarks. Though am still curious how the 6900XT will fare at higher resolutions. Still, 3090 is nice for content creation.
Couldn't be happier with my 3080, I game at 4k where the 3080 slaps the 6800XT and DLSS and raytracing are both game changers at this resolution. AMD offer no alternative to DLSS and unplayable ray tracing performance at 4k.
And slightly more cores, yeah. A 6900 with this kind of cooling should be able to hit those 3 GHz. Which would be ... almost 10% faster than the OC version of what Steve showed us here ?
I just want a card like this with a waterblock pre-installed for an open loop system. Not that I am incapable of installing a waterblock myself, but would prefer a simple solution for an upgrade.
Hey HWU, Thanks for the GREAT content you folks generate! Built a Ryzen 3600 + RX 5600 XT system about 3 weeks ago. Thank goodness I bought and built when I did!!! The prices for computer components has gone ABSOLUTELY INSANE!!!! I'm really just a newb to DIY computer building, but what I've seen in pricing over the last 1-2 weeks is outlandish, unadulterated greed.
I just bought one..great card and I agree the cables look like crap. They could have quite easily hidden those wires. Apart from that the card is awesome. Running it with my 5600X and getting the exact benchmark fps results in F12021 as you do. The price was just a few hundred more than anything else that was in stock so I went for it.
2.8Ghz on a GPU?? Goddamn.Thats the speed what processors ran at like 10 years ago,when gpus ran at 600/700mhz 🤯
No not really..
You have to go back 20 years for that.
@@loki76 well the core2quad I had in 2008/2009 was around 2.4 stock IIRC, but duos were a bit higher, them duo8600 and such were above 3ghz i think
Faster than some cpu for servers.
Yeah, this generation is very exciting. Just wish more people could buy in. The limited stock needs to be resolved...
@@loki76 While we did have higher clocked variants even during P4 days, 3-4 GHz became common in the mainstream with Sandy Bridge in 2011.
For the curious ones that are too lazy to type in the coordinates on the back of the plate (25.124839 N 121.471145 E): It points to an Asus office in Taiwan - you're welcome ;-)
thank you stranger
According to Google Maps
Dammit, just finished looking that up then scroll down slightly and see your comment. :)
@@GewelReal I read this in the RE4 merchant's voice.
The ASUS ROG Strix GeForce RTX 3090 has that too, but at the front. Is there a specific reason to this ?
This is one of TWO 6800xt cards that have pricing LISTED in our country....
let me guess, there's about a 25% to 35% premium in the pricing, about 1250 to 1350 USD? did I get it right?
@@crispianchealuks2024 youre not wrong, it costs around 1100-1150€
we have a few listed here in Australia,
prices are all over the place as the Sapphire RX6800XT Nitro+ & Powercolor RX6800XT Red Dragon are cheaper than ASRock, ASUS, Gigabyte & MSI RX6800 versions
Ps the comparison to RX6800 is not a spelling mistake, Sapphire & Powercolor XT are cheaper than the other NON XT
@@shaneeslick Same thing happens in my country where the Gigabyte 6800 Gaming OC is more expensive than XFX 6800XT Merc 319.
@@rizkijuanda85 Yeah it is very interesting the AMD Only partners are competing on price with the lower tier of the others, I wonder if Powercolor, Sapphire & XFX are getting a Huge discount on GPU Die & MEM?
My friends brother swears his cousins next door neighbors mailman's sisters son once saw a 6800XT
But he was probably lying.
You should have him write an affidavit.
Both me and a friend have one
@Rahul Aryan In Norway, wasn't that hard to get
This card is only €1099 here, what a deal
oof
cheaper than the 3090
Bargain, I'll have 3 please 😂
Rip
I got 6800xt nitro+ 1050 euros with 24% tax ;/
45°C at 2.8GHz!
With a dedicated 240mm rad it better be.
RDNA2 is a overclocking monster architecture.
@@1idd0kun no doubt, which is kinda funny cause Nvidia use to be better at Oc, but now they can't Oc for shit.
@@protato911 how the turns gave tabled, eh?
@@protato911 which means Nvidia is clocking them higher than what they wanted.
Imagine the performance of ASUS rx 6900xt OC LC ... Monster
if Pl will be around 130% thats our new champ
3ghz
Keep imagining, cuz we won't be able to get hold of that 😂 (at least not me)
@@krizby87 Pee pee poo poo
That's like saying "faster than any nVidia card in AMD flavoring title X. Or "OCd 3090 is as fast as FSR enabled game with a 6800!"
Which are utter nonsense bad faith random claims.
@@krizby87 3070 can even't keep up with the 6800, dlss isn't gonna save it. the 6800 xt oc lc kept up with even the 3090 and beating it in some, now just think how much faster the 6900 xt is gonna be.
I want to see the cheaper RX 6800 XT Pulse and Red Dragon.
So do we!
The rest of us can just dream ...
I just want to see an at least 1 in depth review of the regular 6800. Everybody is ignoring it...
@@Hardwareunboxed They are available in Bulgaria but I aint gonna buy something before its reviewed. Thank you HU!
@PewPewZee LawL so how do you know that all of them have coil whine?
6900xt is gonna be wearing the raster performance crown this Christmas.
Dlss2 On, i will be around rtx 3070 performance..
@@ethan-fel 😐
@@ethan-fel yeah like I said, raster crown not upsampled frames crown or Minecraft RT crown, Raster!
Based on supply, more like Easter.
@@burnsyd17 Christmas 2021
the auto-subtitles today: "harvard unbox"
Harbor and box and harbor unbox
UA-cam should know by now...
@@brokengames9020 what?
@@brokengames9020 what are u talking about?
It's not even close to the real name, Hammer On Box.
Remember when people used to laugh over vega 64’s power consumption, pepperidge farm remembers.
That was because of its performance per watt, which was horrible
Red Team ! Red TEam !!! Redddd Teammm !!!!!
@@chrislawson3418 vega 64 performance per watt is fine if you undervolt it. My vega 64 runs at 240-260W while giving 5-10% higher than stock performance. Its efficiency is comparable to 1080.
@@superneenjaa718 This is why undervolting is a thing.
@@superneenjaa718 1080? You sure? The 1080 is a 180W card at stock.
looks like Powercolor Liquid Devil will have a competitor
no
Liquid devil will definitely be better. Weren't they binned to be better from the get?
@@likethewind5088 YES!!
Liquid Devil's only competitor is Aorus Waterforce Extreme version from Gigabyte
who cares you can buy a waterblock and be done with any model rest its just chip quality
AMD GPUs making custom cards and overclocks actually make meaningful performance increases.
But a hybrid? If I have an AIO cooler, I want it to remove heat from a spreader. If there's fans on the card, I don't want a pump and water.
It combines all the drawbacks, I can see why someone would buy into a compact AIO aesthetics but not why you compromise on a largeish card plus radiator.
As soon as there's a non hybrid which matches thermal performance this idea looks silly.
It would be more exciting if the Vbios limits are opened. Even air cooled versions had an ample headroom for OC (refer to der8auer videos).
@@RobBCactive 2.8ghz at 50. Nothing is getting close on air.
@@JhanSolo332 go watch derbaur's video. His red devil is air cooled and hitting the same speeds. Plenty of these cards could hit faster speeds if they weren't vbios limited to create segmentation.
@@FirleFarms Speed isn't temperature. The other cards are 20 degrees warmer, that's why it's liquid cooled. I can guarantee they knew about the clock limits long before they finalized the decision to do a card with an AIO.
I'm looking forward to seeing what the best MSRP GPUs are. No way am I going to pay the "premium model" tax.
RTX 3080 Founder's is the best.
@@HeloisGevit nah, 6800xt is nearly as fast, and it has 6 extra GB of VRAM, 6800xt all the way on this GPU cycle, assuming of course you can get your hands on one
@@zuckdaddy1596 I prefer the 3080, it's better at 4k which I game at, as well as ray tracing and DLSS. By the time the VRAM becomes a bottleneck, I would have upgraded.
@@zuckdaddy1596 Don't just base it on amount of memory - the 3080 has GDDR6X with 48% higher memory bandwidth and a 320bit bus as opposed to the 6800XT's 256bit bus. Thus far at 4k they perform about the same, so it seems neither are currently running into memory issues at all, and probably won't for some time. Remember also that it's unlikely any game will have 10GB+ textures on screen at once - memory preloads and caches textures, so having faster memory that can load and unload information faster is likely just as effective as more memory.
3070 vs 6800 is a much more valid debate.
@@zuckdaddy1596 can’t do DlSS, can’t do ray tracing.
Now I really want to see how the liquid cooled 6900xt will perform against the 3090.
It’s already in the video...
@@notaname1750 He's talking about 6900xt, this is a 6800xt :D
Since this card is on par with the 3090 you should expect at least a 5% bump.
Nice
@@jagsfanrick probably quite a bit more since the Oc limit is 200mhz higher and higher on the memory as well. Most likely altogether 10+%
I have one of these ordered. Finally and actual review of it! Great work hardware unboxed.
GamersNexus did a quick look at it on live stream, versus a couple other 6800xt's
@@burnsyd17 I watched that as well before this video. They really didn’t go into detail about the card just quick thermals and some benchmarks. Looks like a great gpu!
6800 XT is the first gpu I’ve seen in a while where overclocking makes a significant difference.
Awesome review. Cant wait for the 6900xt review.
AMD really has to unlock the limit of overclocking for this card to reach its potential (even at MSRP). Otherwise, stick with the regular AIB cards (if you're really focused on value)
But if they cant code drivers that dont crash with higher speeds how can they? Sure eventually someone will release a stable bios so you can flash your card.
@@MauriceTarantulas the driver runs on you cpu. gpu clock does not affect the driver.
@@MauriceTarantulas oooooooooooh get rekt by FJ5!!
@@MauriceTarantulas - There's no such thing as a 'stable' custom BIOS.
5:58 Steve: "Why asus didn't sleve the fan cables together is beyond me"
Me: So I can use my own fans such as noctuas or on my other system corsair fans.
still could've done a better job than that mess
the auto-subtitles today:"HARBOR AND BOX"
Harvard unbox :D
Well ofcourse only releasing the most expensive models when there's a shortage is great for your company. Not so much for us,
Who tf cares for us anyway? We should all take in the butt buying all these massively overpriced pieces of junk just to play fucking useless games.
Didn't expect RDNA2 to be such a good over clocker. 2.75 GHz core clock, oh god.
6900xt will go to 3.0 ghz
In the last few generations Nvidia was ahead in architecture so AMD was pushing the clocks to the max from the factory, eating up the OC headroom.
@@Arjun-eb1yc nvidia stop chasing higher clocks after pascal.
@@Arjun-eb1yc You need to design that in the architecture. You can have a wide pipeline with huge parallelism but you loose clock speed. Or have highly clocked smaller pipelines to end up with the same performance.
(its obviously way more complex than that but I'm just trying to explain)
AMD's old cards (GCN1-5) where huge parallel monsters but games don't profit from that, to get anywhere with GCN in games they needed to push the clocks to fill the buffer faster.(that clock pushing was the reason for the higher power draw from AMD, in data centers where the parallelism was needed there more reasonable)
Nvidia's chips use less (now with ampere that has changed a bit, now they have a huge amount of weaker pipelines) but faster pipelines that can be fed faster to execute a instruction.
RDNA1 has reduced the GCN buffer so that you only needed 2 instructions to start calculations , with GCN you needed to fill up 4 instructions before ANY calculation was triggered.
RDNA2 I'm not sure about but it seems reasonably to assume that they have removed the buffer filling requirement entirely and reduced the pipeline count for each CU but the faster clock makes up for that.
its all a game of trade offs.
@@TJ.85 dlss is sofware my dude and RT isnt going to work at release for AMD.
Thats what cdpr sad, its going to be patched in later.
For the last week, i watched way too many videos on 6800XT, 6900XT, 3080 or 3080TI and could not decide which one to go for. Had a strict budget and my old card had to fund 50 % of the cost of the new one.
I previously used an AORUS GeForce RTX™ 2080 Ti XTREME WATERFORCE 11G AIO and i loved that card and served me well for 2 years but showing really can't do 4K very well.
I ended setting my sight on another AIO liquid cooling GPU as i need a serious boost in FPS for 4K gaming.
Now I'm 4 hours in, here is my take
1) This card is whisper quiet underload even in my Thermaltake open case . Love the auto fan off mode.
2) No issue with pump noise or coilwhine so far, touch wood.
3) Steve is right, the cables sucks, looks ridicious. Performance is far better than I expected in my rig as I have had lots of issues running the 2080 TI lately, I think it’s nvidia driver and windows 10 update issues.
4) Lighting on this card looks great and I’m don’t particularly like RGB. i set it to a single colour (static) - I posted a quick video on my account if you want to see what it looks like.
5) The tubes are very warm, i don't recall the AORUS had this issue but to be fair, those fans on the radiator were constantly on.
I took a leap of faith going to the RED team, last time I went with AMD was back 2015, freaking wasting money pairinng two Radeon R9 295X2 in crossfire (4 GPUs) to get Witcher 3 run above 100fps in 3440x1440.. LOL - that project ended in tears and i ended going to Nvidia on a single card ever since.
I highlightly recommend this card if you are into 4K gaming, want better than 60fps 4K performance, freesync premium, whisper quiet AIO liquid cooling and willing to forgo Ray Tracing & DLSS and lower the graphical settings. Also based on current ridiculous prices in OZ, this was far the cheapest AIO liquid cool cards I could find, overclocks great as well.
HDMI2.1 is a blessing too, can't believe i can finally use my LG CX48 OLED display (120hz, HDR, RGB 4:4:4) to its fullest without any sacrifices. See you later Displayport 1.4....
The dislikes are from the bots who didn’t get to buy your reviewer sample
Too true
@@TJ.85 You absolute clown, what bath salts are you on. You realize, I, they guy you’ve just been shitting on (on two separate threads) have ONLY owned Nvidia cards. I have a 2060 in my system rn, and literally no one bought Turing
Nah it’s cause it’s a review of a hybrid card with not a single shot of it installed in a case that isn’t a completely pointless close up.
Well, or people who think he needs to stop talking out of his ass.
AMD isn't price fixing. That would involve them making an agreement with NVidia to price Big Navi so as to not undercut Ampere(no, AIBs putting out expensive 6800 XTs does not even come close to the definition of price fixing on the part of AMD). I think he needs to wise up and stop talking stupid shit about things he doesn't understand.
@@TJ.85 "Why is the only cards getting an oc radeon? And why 0 testing with games that use and show why you might want things like DLSS and proper ray tracing?"
oc the radeon is to show how stable is not the performance per say, if you would had known anything about oc you would know that with a bad oc you can lose performance, the video is about the radeon card not nvidia card
a proper ray tracing game means neither nvidia's ray tracing nor amd's ray tracing, if nvidia is pulling another gameworks on ray tracing....
DLSS? just lower your resolution same shit... fake 4k for days
i guess salt gets everyone at some point lol
6800xt with 2.8 ghz sounds awesome. Even 2.5 is awesome. Will games or softwares scale in the future with drivers and patches?
just bought the card on a site under "backorder" at least I am in line. Thing looks amazing!
It's very clear the Ferengi rules of acquisition are in heavy use with the GPU pricing.
"Welcome back to Harvard Unboxed" 😂😂😂 That's a new one!!
Great video Steve. AMD needs to remove that limit on RDNA2 or a custom bios is needed asap. Imagine 3ghz+ overclocks with all the cooling in the world, they'd be breaking records and power looks decent. And that's just the 6800xt.
World is heating
This looks to be an incredibly well cooled 6800xt option!
@@TJ.85 cheap for water cooling, enthusiasts probably don't care about price
AMD 6800 series is AWOL in India. No card available *anywhere*
The whole lineup of 3060ti/3070/3080/3090 is now available at most places. Prices are inflated though.
Lol, 3090 is nowhere
@@sexyyoda7567 the cheapest 3090 is 1.9k in my region, most of them are 2.1k and more.
You are doing well to have 3080s in stock.
You can get more performance if you screw holes into your radiator like I did. Like real pros do. 👍
Did you perhaps screw them with confidence?
what a beast, cant wait to see the 6900XT LC version
@@TJ.85 enjoy your 3080 :)
@@TJ.85 still a better improvement than the 3090 over the 3080
@@TJ.85
...at higher wattage. 50 Watt difference becomes something else in the $/(kW/h).
♫sings♫
All I want for Christmas is ...
The RX6900XT
Holy Moly - nearly 2.8 GHz core clock - maybe that's why Jenson pushed the power limits to insane levels on Team Green.
As far as pricing, I have seen, on NewEgg anyway, that most of the pricing for the models (above the base models) the prices have creeped up. MSI, Gigabyte etc prices have jumped up $10 to $30 as far as I can tell.
5:58 Steve: "Why asus didn't sleve the fan cables together is beyond me"
Me: Its Asus so....
Asus: how many corners can we cut to boost margin and coast on our well known name?
@@WayStedYou Asus : Yes
Feminine?
I wished it uses quick-disconnect that allows me to customize tube length and radiator config.
@@allansh828 Asus exist to rip off customers😁
Nvida gonna say one thing. Introducing the 3080ti
It's gonnw be a little bit slower than the 3090.
yeah probably and for sure it will have higher price. In the past amd/nvidia drop their msrp when a card from competitor is threatening their product but today they just gonna release a Ti/Super/XT/whatever... and price it even higher. What a great day for GPU consumers eh...
Looks impressive..
Can't wait for 6900XT (2 days till it -released- sold out).
2am where i am and see steve working who needs sleep! Great card, but the price! thanks for the review
Looking forward to sapphire toxic/atomic 6900 xt 32gb, who else 😀
I just bought a 1080ti so I'm happy to see it on the benchmark graphs :)
I really think you got extremely lucky to get such a good binned GPU.
I wouldn't be surprised if they hand pick the review samples but I do have this card and I can clock mine to 2.76Ghz although it isn't 100% stable, at 2.7 though it's solid no problem.
R9 295X2 Vibes
This card is 500bucks over msrp in Norway 🤣
Enjoy your Socialism
I will happily have our cheap health care instead of cheap toys😉
@
Cheap health care, long time to treatment, the last time I compiled statistical information. Forget healthcare when wound bleed out happens because hospitals can't triage more than its beds.
I paid 953 for this card, the tuf model is 830
Apparently what happened with pricing is down to logistics. AIBs usually ship cards on commercial flights since there's usually extra room and it's cheap, but due to COVID, commercial flights are in short supply and are more expensive. This leaves them with shipping expensively by air, or shipping for cheap by ship. Shipping by ship would mean the cards would arrive after Christmas, so for now, they're kinda forced to ship by plane, the cost of which is passed down to the consumer.
Yep, people ignore logistics impacts on pricing. A cost-effective boat shipment from where the cards are made in Taiwan etc to USA is like 6 weeks overall, probably 4 to Australia, lord knows how long to EU/UK (8?).
Air shipping is very expensive right now,so only the highest margin parts are being pushed until traditional shipping can bring those cards to market.
This card appears to beat most AIB 3080's in Tomb Raider
I don’t know why hardware unboxed aren’t doing AIB comparisons between AMD and Nvidia
I mean, this thing performs on par with the 3090 for 600€ less, so hell yeah!
If the Ray Tracing performance was the same too I would buy it.
@@NarekAvetisyan it is in games that dont use rtx. RTX is like HairWorks, its designed to gimp AMD GPUs
@@NarekAvetisyan Then again, is that really worth the price of another gpu? I certainly shop at the lower end but a bit better rtx and dlss can't really justify non-flagship card catching up to a flagship card while still having plenty of headroom and only (as far as we know) being artificially limited.
@@NarekAvetisyan AMDs first gen RT is the same as nvidias first gen RT
@_Nism0 the encoder works just fine at 1440p ultrawide (using Vega myself).
The drivers are very stable, the only crashes I get are because I have pushed my infinity fabrik mclk to the absolute limit it would go, rtx will soon go the way of hairworks and DLSS is postprocessing, which I never use anyway
Thanks for your hard works Steve, cant wait for your rx 6800/xt round up. Pricing are coming down in here so I think I should be able to buy one in mid q1 next year.
Feminine
As far as increased prices are concerned - MLID speculated that this could be due to increased logistics costs in the short term due to fewer suitable transport flights being available. (Ships take longer and have not fully arrived and in stock, yet.)
"Premium" is no longer defined by quality, but how they are priced
Just imagine if this card wouldn't be power limited to +15% max and 2,8Ghz clock in the power tables. I dont see 2,9 Ghz as a big problem. But yeah. AMD doesnt want to cannibalize the 6900XT
Amd can do the same thing for the 6900xt though
You know you can change these settings with MPT fron igor's lab right? You can basically turn a 6800xt to 6900xt with power limit increase, watts, core clock etc.
So crazy coming back to watch these review videos 8 months later before the GPU pandemonium.
Look, I wanted a Big Navi when RDNA 2 launched. I sold my 5700 XT; which I really enjoyed and then got stuck right when the prices went through the ROOF. That said, the XFX Qick 6700 XT Black I just installed today is a Stone Cold Killer!! I'm getting boost of 2884Mhz on a 1st attempt, moderate goal setting OC and it does it as 51c Max. That's knucking futz and it kills games maxed out at 1440p and 4k. My 3dmark numbers are #1 for a 6700 XT period in half of the tests and I'm rocking an "old" Zen 2 3950X. Versus the ~$500 more RTX 3070 or RX 6800 on the current market I'm getting better performance than the 3070 around half the time and am beating ~%50 of the RX 6800's that have their test results in their database. Yes, I want Big Navi and I would take a 3070 (though that 8gb buffer sucks; especially the way I'd run it..), but Do Not right off Navi 22 or the 6700 XT. I compared it to my old Super OC 1080Ti too and the efficiency and performance is absolutely representative of Two Generations of (abiet different brand) architectures and node advances. I'd highly recommend this card and I was Skeptical 💯
amd overclock is insane
Yeah and to think that this is the cut down version, meaning worse quality silicon compared to a perfect grade 6900xt, since AMD BIOS locked it to 2.8Ghz and red devil, which is an air cooled 6800xt managed to get that means there is more headroom even on worse quality silicon, imagine unlocked perfect grade 6900xt.
@Nidal Suliman insane to think that the bios gives out before the silicon does. Hats off to tsmc I guess
@@Videohead-eq5cy its not giving out. its hard locked by amd. the 6900XT is locked at 3ghz.
Curious as to why ASUS releases a LC 6800XT but not a 3080...
Because the Ampere architecture is limited by how high it can overclock due to the Samsung process node. Similarly why Zen chips didn't overclock much a few years ago. Its not a thermal constraint per se. Its how the silicon responds to higher clocks.
@@damienlobb85 That makes alot of sense when you put it that way. Thanks
Would be nice if you tested it with an unlocked bios.
On sale in Oz right now for $1900.
4 to 8 week call was on the money.
AMD pls, give use more MHz!
Not a good sign as it means anything higher crashes with current drivers.
@@MauriceTarantulas I was thinking they capped the speed to help with price tiers.
This card looks so good, if only it wasn't practically as much as the 6900xt and or an upcoming 3080ti which kinda makes it pointless.
Even if we go with AMDs MSRP, this card, just like the rest are totally overpriced for the performance! Just because Performance was stagnating for the past few years, doesn't mean its ok to charge so much money for performance that is to be expected so many years later!!
Cant wait to see this gpu with 6900xt bios
Here's what I'm sure is going on with these high-end-only Radeon launches. The silicon appears to be extremely limited relative to demand. That means the pure market "auction" (scalper) price is high. The board partners, holding the limited silicon, have 3 options. They can sell basic near-MSRP cards for near MSRP, and make a little bit of money on that precious silicon. They could also make basic cards and sell at the full price the market can bear, which is super unpopular and draws comparisons to scalping. Or, they can wrap that precious silicon in super über top-end glitz, and THEN sell it for much closer to market price without looking like absolute wankers. When supply can't meet demand, there is pressure to push upmarket. Selling basic 6800XTs right now makes no sense; they'd just be leaving money on the table that would be 100% claimed by scalpers, who only exist to bridge gaps between MSRP and market price. Either Asus gets the money, or a scalper does. It's just the way it is when there's a gap. Happens with cars too; if there's a wait for a hot new car, all of the first batch are loaded models. I'm actually really surprised that Nvidia partners aren't doing the same; that tells me that Nvidia are probably issuing some big "thou shalt nots" and "or elses" to their partners.
Welcome back to Harvard Unbox
they really missed a trick there -- needs right-angle connectors to the card that can rotate. straight tubes out of the top is stupid.
Cooling on this card is really chinese 5$ junk. Only enthusiasts with no custom water loop will buy watercooled card with copper waterblock and straight tubes. Anyway good version from EVGA, Asus or Zotac + EKWB waterblock will be cheaper and more reliable. That's why only high end cards for me are Aorus Waterforce extreme and Liquid Devil 🙌
They would be releasing their more expensive ones first because, due to the limited supply, they know that a) people will buy them regardless of the price; and b) it's the only way they can actually make decent money, since there are fewer cards, so the price has to be higher.
Heard a few people suggest the choice of shipping the high end models first, at such high prices, is due to shipping costs around this time of year. It's a lot easier to justify shifting up MSRP to account for expensive air freight on the high end cards compared to the budget models. Apparently much of the shipping capacity has been bought up by bigger companies like Apple to secure stock for holiday shopping. Not sure how much water this holds but it would explain the situation.
00:52 That's a pretty bad false dichotomy you've got there. The most likely real reason for the inflated prices is increased costs in the supply chain, including parts and shipping.
You're really being irresponsible by assuming you know the correct answer, without even mentioning the most likely one.
Yeah. He's talking like the whole supply chain is just AMD and the AIBs, when in reality there are like dozens of other hands in between.
i have a question, can you remove the fans so if i can get it, can i switch the rog fans for corsair fans?
There is a shot showing 2 pwn fan connections on the board so, yes? @7:31
@@joeymcjoeysalot6596 but thing is, those are for additional fans, not the ones on the radiator
What a shame that the power consumption is limited, because at least in thermals this gpu could achieve much higher frequecies and performance uplifts
its not a power limt. its a hardcoded limit set by amd in the bios.
Der8auer forced the vcore to about 1.3 and just cant get the thing over 2.8ghz.
a leaker on twitter has a 6800XT and a 6900XT and has read the bios of both.
6800XT limit is 2.8 and the 6900XT has a limit of 3ghz.
If someone is interested: the coordinates on the back plate are located in the suburbs of Taipeh, Taiwan.
I want 3050s to come out please nvida I’m on intergrated graphics atm
Why not get a used 5700xt or 2060 Super? -50 series cards are always poor peformance per dollar.
@@andrew279cz4 the appeal is the not upgrading your psu and putting the 50 series in a prebuilt, but by the sounds of it the 50 series is gonna need extra power
Maybe a 6700XT, if AMD decide to do a lower tier RDNA2 card...🤔
Yeah rx 6600 or 3050
@@Isaacminer1 true yes. I never owned an NVIDIA graphics card, but, based on what I've seen from my previous and current AMD cards, my previous RX 550 vs my current RX 560, the RX 550 doesn't require external PSU power i.e six or eight pin connectors are not required
This is selling for 1500$ in my country.
MSRP is dead.
Always has been. Market doesn't exactly work like that. It's anyways a "suggested" price.
You shouldn't even expect a LC OC card to sell for MSRP. Be sensible!
MSRP isn't dead, they are just having stock issues just like nvidia. They are just scaling the price by demand while nvidia is keeping their prices static.
Because people are stupid enough to buy new cards at inflated prices. It's not a big greedy company. Plenty of gamers are inpatient and they're the real problem. I can survive couple months till stock will be decent.
I am a bit concerned about the durability of the card itself... As we know, all in liquid cooler systems usually last about 4-5 years before having problems with the pump or with liquid temperature.
Im wondering if there is a way to swap the cooler with a new one, once the old one passes out
Just realized that Australia is in summer right now
I love Steve
Ha! Gaaaaaaaaaaay!
Seems like we found a gay here, how unsurprising.
TUF Gaming affordable?
...
yeah right
@Matthew They go for 950 in Northern Europe and 1100 for the Strix LC
Looks like a good candidate to try flash a 3000mhz 6900XT bios on when it becomes available.
Someone at Guru3d.com will.
I bought the Aorus 2080 Super Waterforce last year with a similar All-In-One liquid cooled solution; and it too had the messy wiring going up to the fans. I wanted to synchronize all the fans in my case, so i replaced them anyways. But to do this I had to open up the graphics card to unplug the fans from the PCB... And this had me extremely nervous, as it was a brand new $800 card that required me to lose its warranty/return policy. But I did it, and it definitely cleaned up the look of my PC. The entire case was lined with Corsair QL series fans, instead of having a couple of oddball Gigabyte Aorus branded RGB fans mixed in.
Oh, look, another one that can't be bought. Great video, that goes without saying, but the situation is sickening
There's models being rushed out for Christmas but the console launches and logistics problems due to crash in passenger flight shipping cargo cause delays.
Really Nvidia screwed the pooch by not giving people a reason to buy in spring/summer.
The CPU market is less crazy as new SKUs are common.
2750Mhz on a gpu!! Jesus 😅😅
6900xt will probably clear 3000 on water.
@@tragicanomaly1707 if that happens that will definitely beat the 3090
Love your videos Steve. Nice to see world leading Aussie content in the UA-cam tech space. Don't think I would bother with this card myself, even if available at a sane price down under. I'm too much of an old school gamer to need ultimate frame rates and massive resolutions. As a 3D CAD jockey by trade I do need to upgrade my aging GTX 1080(non-Ti) soon, though it still performs well in most situations, the real-time rendering visualisation stuff I do could do with a boost. I'll be looking at what can double my performance within a 250 watt power budget. Reference 6800 looks like it might be ideal, or possibly 6700 when it's out. If nVidia get Ampere on 7nm soon that would be worth a look too. I might be spoilt for choice in the new year. My budget is about a grand AU, so here's hoping prices normalise once availability increases.
Now this is some great looking attempt at a foray into LC GPU AIO by GPU manufacturers... a few fixes here and there and you might end up with a great thing to place within O11DMini, with the CPU cooled with a top mounted 360mm AIO... almost like it was meant for these O11D cases ;)
MSRP with RTX cards? Where please? Just looked at geizhals.de and all 3080 are above 1000k €.
there's regular drops of FE .
You can buy countries with that kind of money.
@@ethan-fel let s believe in unicorns
So based on the pricing of these cards the 6900xt will probably end up costing the same as a rtx 3090
In Sweden the 3090 is priced around 2100€. So you are only off by approx 100%...
The card is great but that blower fan not only is useless but it also affects design, thickness and noise level.
With 14 efficient phases (TDA21472) for the Vcore on a card that draws less than 300w TGP, you don' t need any active cooling for the pcb.
I hope you get to review MSI RTX 3060 Ti Twin Fan (not Ventus). I really like the subdued aesthetic, hopefully it’s not crap at cooling or overtly loud.
6800 xt overclocked performe as same as 3090, and 6900 xt almost here, Nvidia is in big problem.
I would say that too if anyone could buy any o these cards, but almost nobody does so...
You forget that you also can overclock a 3090... As an example a Strix can use 480 Watts... So, no chance there for AMD... Those things that everyone always forgets are the features and the software... DLSS, RayTracing, Hardwareencoding, Hardware acceleration... In all of those things AMD still has no chance.
At 1440p for sure, though at 4K nvidia wins in most benchmarks. Though am still curious how the 6900XT will fare at higher resolutions.
Still, 3090 is nice for content creation.
Comparing an overclocked card to a non-oc'd card.... My toyota with its gas pedals down is faster than a parked ferrari too... lmao
Couldn't be happier with my 3080, I game at 4k where the 3080 slaps the 6800XT and DLSS and raytracing are both game changers at this resolution. AMD offer no alternative to DLSS and unplayable ray tracing performance at 4k.
Who thinks the 6900 will just be a 6800xt with higher power/clock/mem limits
And slightly more cores, yeah. A 6900 with this kind of cooling should be able to hit those 3 GHz. Which would be ... almost 10% faster than the OC version of what Steve showed us here ?
Possibly (and also 4 more CUs?). That being said 6800 XTX sounds better.
Mabey the 6800xt is the same chip but with deactivated Cu’s
I just want a card like this with a waterblock pre-installed for an open loop system. Not that I am incapable of installing a waterblock myself, but would prefer a simple solution for an upgrade.
Hey HWU, Thanks for the GREAT content you folks generate! Built a Ryzen 3600 + RX 5600 XT system about 3 weeks ago. Thank goodness I bought and built when I did!!! The prices for computer components has gone ABSOLUTELY INSANE!!!! I'm really just a newb to DIY computer building, but what I've seen in pricing over the last 1-2 weeks is outlandish, unadulterated greed.
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz another overpriced AMD AIB. Wake me up in 4 months when prices normalise.
You may need to add about a year to your 4 month estimate. You are too optimistic.
if I maybe guess 8-10 months for the gpus, in stock and somewhat normalized
Why do I even watch products I can't buy right now? The temptation is real man.
Even though the prices are inflated for these GPU's, they pack a lot of value when compared with Nvidia GPU's.
I just bought one..great card and I agree the cables look like crap. They could have quite easily hidden those wires. Apart from that the card is awesome. Running it with my 5600X and getting the exact benchmark fps results in F12021 as you do. The price was just a few hundred more than anything else that was in stock so I went for it.
Is there any fps difference between normal vs tighter timings for the VRAM?
You're becoming my favourite tech channel. Love from India!
Coordinates to the Asus office in Taiwan. That's a really cool touch.
Hey man, any news on swapping it over to your own custom loop with hardline tubing?