I know to you Sylvia this comment was a year ago but to me, it's like 15 seconds ago. Ha. Darn right. Let the helpful hardware man in on the fun. Macho kills. (The knees.) Good comment! UPVOTE!
Thanks for this video! In addition to what you’ve mentioned, I found it helpful to put the pipe on a non-slip yoga mat. This makes it easier to “wrestle” with the pipe. The second thing I noticed in your video but wasn’t called out explicitly was that to prevent creases, apply gentle pressure using the entirety of your palm. Lastly, I found it helpful to gauge how round the finished product is by simply rolling it on the mat! And you can easily tell which areas need more work.
Great video. I tried to assemble 1 24” pipe for 30 minutes before finding your video. After your tutelage, I assembled 7’ of pipe (3 pieces) in 5 minutes! Thanks.
Can't thank you enough! I found your video before I started my attempt. You saved me aggravation and probably another trip to the store. Two thumbs up! (UA-cam is amazing for helping DIYers. I'm a Subscriber...)
Well I wish I would've stopped and watched your video sooner. Instead I opted to stubbornly fight it for 20 minutes (pride got the better of me...😂). Watched your video and 2 minutes later it snapped right together. Thanks for sharing....thumbs up and Subscribed.
Thanks Brad, I didn’t realize I ordered split stove pipe and have had a heck of a morning trying to get it together. Thank you for sharing and saving me lots of time and frustration!
Thanks! Worked with minimal effort. My 3” diameter pipe made it easy. However, once I got it oval-formed, I had to snap it together (4 pcs on first try) vertically. I installed it on my shepherd hooks which hold my bird feeders, to prevent the tree rats from thieving the birds’ seed. Thanks again!
Sounds like an excellent squirrel defense you've got there, Larry. My bird feeders are routinely raided too. Check out this amusing squirrel obstacle course ua-cam.com/video/hFZFjoX2cGg/v-deo.html
Excellent video! Thank you Sir, a big life saver for me today. You saved me a lot of wrestling with sheet metal! Your showing your attempts made me feel better about my attempts to achieve success.
The first section made a second "snap" as well. I am a paraplegic and fixing to give it a try, lol. A sense of quality humor will allow us to live much better lives like you and I possess. Thanks for your instructional video friend.
Thank you! Great video, definitely agree with the parts about you will not succed the first time and each pipe has it's own personality. I would also add if you have cataracts or any visual impairment try and do this outside or with really good lighting.
after several years of not useing a wood stove, as i was TRYN to clikt my new pipes together !!!! i realized !!! i couldnt cause i didnt remeber how and i do know proper english i just choose to type the way i prefer to talk much love
Best advice... Put it on the floor! I had 5 footers 30 gauge. I put it on the floor and had the seam on the side and used cable tie to start it. By the 6th on ... 30 seconds. Thanx
Thanks Brad. Monster UPVOTE! Yuh know...I have carried out this operation a few times by myself. Last time mebbe 5 years ago. This time around it took me and the wife to get two sticks together. Not working out the way we were doing, I found your vid and with her holding a flashlight (black on black sucks when you get old) and me using your method...wah-la! Can't thank you enough! Now who do I send a letter to about this backwards flue pipe? You'd think after 120 years some company would have figgered out how to sell 'em put together. Ha! Norm
Glad my video helped you and your wife succeed with your stove pipe assembly. Hope you stay warm come winter. Would be nice if split stove pipes could be assembled more easily. Maybe one day they'll be a zipper version that can withstand heat & cool cycling.
@@BradSmithSC Ha! That would be grand! Thanks again Brad. I really wasn't looking forward to replacing my pipes. I *thought* I had it licked with two pieces. Turned out I needed a third after I knocked the old build down. Got everything ready but that. Tomorrow! Boy that stuff is expensive. Holler later!
I'm about to install two new sections...any problem with two pipe sections not sealing very good and letting smoke by due to one section maybe being "more oval" than the other?
If one pipe is oval and one is round then yes you might have some smoke leak into your room. However, that probably only occurs at the beginning when building a fire. I suspect once the draft is steadily moving up the pipe those gaps will suck in air from the room.
Another thing that makes it easier is to get the crimped end in and put a ratchet strap on it so it can't get loose then push down and snap. It is a little easier on my worn-out hip.
A ratchet strap is a good use as a pair of 'extra hands'. Adding an old towel under the buckle portion might help prevent it from scraping the finish too.
Other tools that will help: airplane worm clamp, strap of velcro, wire tie, a cutout circle of wood or plastic, piece of tire tube, large! rubber band... The reason for flat pieces is more can be shipped and stored in a given space and less damage to the finished product. flue pipe, smoke pipe, vent pipe, snap pipe, duct
I line up the seams at one end and then work down the length. Sort of like a zipper. One challenge is the start of the seam falling back open while trying to connect the rest of it.
@@BradSmithSC the seams of 2 finished pipes. After the pipes are pressed together and you are stacking them to make chimney do you line up the seams of both pipes together or offset them
After farting around with this for over an hour. I decided it was time to reinvent the wheel. I did most of what the fella said with one very big difference. Once I got the corner in I clamped it with my vise grips on the very edge. Then started the over side of the pipe going at the corner. I did the same thing with the vice grips as well. Now the little f$%ker can't pop off. I worked it from the end towards the middle. If it gave me some grief I would simply switch to the other side. Once that I saw the seam "most" of the way in I remove both vise grips and started to round out the pipe and it sounded like a popcorn maker. DONE! I spent over an hour on my first 48 inch long pipe. Once I figured this trick out I had all four done in less then five minutes. I have never put pipe together before. I also have "0" patience for this kind of crap. So if I can do it I know you will have no trouble at all...lol. I truly hopes this spares some one some grief. I also feel for the amount of money they charge, it should be done at the factory or at the store that makes a hefty profit off of a piece of stamped sheet metal.
The metal interlocks together tightly and I haven't found a need for any sealant. You might want to verify with someone more knowledgeable, especially if you have a unique case. These chimney pieces get quite hot so if you end up using something it must be heat friendly. I made the mistake of installing my pieces upside down so the creosote running down the pipes leaks onto the outside of the pipes. That is not a sealant issue but an incorrect installation issue that can be remedied by flipping my pipes the other direction.
I have heated with wood stoves for 43 years. There is still a cloud of curse words hanging over Santa Fe from my wrestling with these d%#@d things! Michael
The real challenge is that THEY need to make a seamless pipe available in my area in the same lengths as these abominations........Life would be so grand then ;)
I think the price gap between nested split pipes versus fully round pipes (transporting, retail space) would be significant and consumers would pick the lower priced split pipes not knowing the assembly challenges ahead.
I have my pipes snapped together, and I prefer to wear gloves when working with sheetmetal. The part I want to see is sliding the pipes together especially where the seams are.
The pipes are crimped on one end and those fit inside the straight (uncrimpt) end of the other pipe. A bit less eventful than the snap together assembly :-)
When connecting pipes together it's important to ensure they are aligned straight to one another before driving in the sheet metal screws. Take your time on this step.
@@OvGraphics a mix of blood & sweat works as a sacrificial lubricant in helping the seams snap together. Efficiency is improved when the ratio of each is just right :-)
@@BradSmithSC Hiya back Brad. Wull yeah, and don't forget a smidge of Brad. Gotta have that. So I went to the hardware a few minutes ago for that last stick. I axed the helpful hardware man if he knew how to put it together. Thought I might pick up another trick. "Sure!" says he. After about 5 minutes neither one of could make it work so I got down on on the floor and showed him the Brad method. Fidget, unsnap. Fidget, unsnap... One end secured, walk it up...SNAP! Hee hee. Learned HIM a new trick! Brad you are THE man!
Everybody thinks that's really easy to put these pipes together and make them around again no matter how hard you try over it just seemed about 2 to 3 in on each side of the sink is flat it's very hard to get that area round again I'm working on some how to force that scene out so the pipes really around again anybody got any ideas let me know I also tried the 4" to 6" bladder that you could buy at harbor freight that doesn't
Some vehicle windows can be installed by adding a small piece of rope inside the H-channel of the rubber grommet and pulling it through one side. I've wondered if a similar method might also work for these stove pipe seams.
This should absolutely be done already. They charge way, way, way too much money at it is to just sell you a stamped piece of metal that you have to screw around with for hours. I am going to return mine have have them do it or refund me.
@@BradSmithSC For sure, but it wouldn't be that much of a problem for them to give you some instructions, or for the hardware store (or wherever you get them) to have a fixture to put them together for you!
@@marktwain2053 It'd be nifty if there was a pull cord technique to seam the two joints together. Sometimes truck rear windows can be put in by placing a cord around the rubber gasket and pulling it around the perimeter of the window. The cord pulls through one edge of the rubber gasket H-channel. A similar technique might also work here but would probably require a different joint type.
Why do they sell it apart for what they cost they should already have the seams put together and welded for you at the factory.It makes no sense to sell stove pipe that way. They don’t sell plumbing pipes that way . I believe in making things as simple and easy for people as possible when working on projects. Just saying.
@@OvGraphics the heating and cooling contraction cycles these pipes experience probably also factors into the interlocking connection configuration. From the pipe manufacturer's point of view, they would have far more of an issue if the pipes unzipped themselves during an active fire versus assembly difficulty.
Lmfao... is it pretty round..?? Or pretty oval..! Hahah.. this pipe is not designed to bendboutta shape and then back to half ass round.. it will compromise the seam and will never be perfect round like whan it's done correctly.. the internet cN be great for figuring out little tricks of the trade ..but . Also great for learning how not to do it..! Perfect example of how not to assemble these pipes..
Thanks for the great tips. My pipe went together on the second try. Without your help I never would have figured out how to do it!
Glad to hear of your success
Thank you for this video. Your method worked the first time. I had been fighting with it for a while.
Glad it helped you
Do this in the store before you pay for it, so if you destroy it, just grab some more and keep practicing.
That’s a funny comment. I thought this would be easy…it’s a good little challenge.
@@timbutler3213 Yeah I'm being serious too...this video makes it look easy but I sure as hell can't do it without messing up a bunch of pieces.
@@sylviaisgod6947 thanks!!
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I know to you Sylvia this comment was a year ago but to me, it's like 15 seconds ago. Ha. Darn right. Let the helpful hardware man in on the fun. Macho kills. (The knees.) Good comment! UPVOTE!
Thanks for this video! In addition to what you’ve mentioned, I found it helpful to put the pipe on a non-slip yoga mat. This makes it easier to “wrestle” with the pipe. The second thing I noticed in your video but wasn’t called out explicitly was that to prevent creases, apply gentle pressure using the entirety of your palm.
Lastly, I found it helpful to gauge how round the finished product is by simply rolling it on the mat! And you can easily tell which areas need more work.
A yoga mat would definitely be better to keep it from sliding around. They could sell non-slip pipe assembly mats alongside the pipe sections.
Thank you so very much. You saved us a bunch of frustration
Glad it helped, stay warm
Glad I watched this video beforehand. Saved me a lot of time and energy in fighting with an unsnapped stove pipe.
Liking your 'unsnapped stove pipe' terminology. Does that mean my assembled chimney stack is composed of 'snapped stove pipe' :-)
Great video. I tried to assemble 1 24” pipe for 30 minutes before finding your video. After your tutelage, I assembled 7’ of pipe (3 pieces) in 5 minutes! Thanks.
Glad to hear the video was helpful to you
Can't thank you enough! I found your video before I started my attempt. You saved me aggravation and probably another trip to the store. Two thumbs up! (UA-cam is amazing for helping DIYers. I'm a Subscriber...)
Thank you for your kind words, Bill. Glad this video helped you succeed with your project.
Well I wish I would've stopped and watched your video sooner. Instead I opted to stubbornly fight it for 20 minutes (pride got the better of me...😂). Watched your video and 2 minutes later it snapped right together. Thanks for sharing....thumbs up and Subscribed.
Glad you are able to get your project completed. Thanks for the friendly feedback.
Thanks Brad this was driving me crazy. Took 2 minutes after watching your video.
Glad it helped you Thomas
Thank you kind sir. 🙏
Your video made this almost impossible task doable.😄
Thanks Brad, I didn’t realize I ordered split stove pipe and have had a heck of a morning trying to get it together. Thank you for sharing and saving me lots of time and frustration!
Glad to hear of your assembly success. They can be quite a wrestling opponent.
Thanks! Worked with minimal effort. My 3” diameter pipe made it easy. However, once I got it oval-formed, I had to snap it together (4 pcs on first try) vertically. I installed it on my shepherd hooks which hold my bird feeders, to prevent the tree rats from thieving the birds’ seed. Thanks again!
Sounds like an excellent squirrel defense you've got there, Larry. My bird feeders are routinely raided too.
Check out this amusing squirrel obstacle course ua-cam.com/video/hFZFjoX2cGg/v-deo.html
Whatever that
Thanks for posting this, specifically about how it doesn't just magically work and may require some extra "care".
Glad this was helpful for your chimney assembly efforts. Too bad they don't come with zippers.
Thanks! This is the best instructive one yet!
Definitely saved me alot of cussing and throwing things around! Thank you for the wisdom!
Excellent video! Thank you Sir, a big life saver for me today. You saved me a lot of wrestling with sheet metal! Your showing your attempts made me feel better about my attempts to achieve success.
Such kind words! Glad my efforts helped you succeed.
The first section made a second "snap" as well. I am a paraplegic and fixing to give it a try, lol. A sense of quality humor will allow us to live much better lives like you and I possess. Thanks for your instructional video friend.
Knowing how difficult this was for me I cannot imagine how much more challenging it was for you. I applaud your tenacity and perseverance.
Thank you! Great explanation and straight to the point
Thank you so much for posting this!! 😀
Glad to hear it helped
Hey man I appreciate you on this day. Perfectly explained
Glad it helped you
Thank you for this vid! So helpful.
Your video saved us!! Thank you!
Glad to hear you got your stove pipe assembled
Awesome video, got it on the first try thanks to you with a 4ft piece. 🎉
Glad to hear of your success
Great advice.. and Nice shop!
Glad this was useful and thanks
Nicely done!
Thank you!!!
You are one patient man!
Stay warm
Thank you Brad. Very helpful.
This video was a huge help thank you
Thank u so much sir you were extremely helpful
Glad it helped you
Thank you! Great video, definitely agree with the parts about you will not succed the first time and each pipe has it's own personality. I would also add if you have cataracts or any visual impairment try and do this outside or with really good lighting.
Pipes have their own personalities and will fight you for dominance
Huzzah! I just heard the sound of victory! Thanks, Bro!
Thank you. Nice simple video, BIG help!
Glad it helped you with your project
Yea my wife and I were pipe fighters when we put our heater in 😇🙏
Can only imagine you are in high demand with your neighbors as you are subject matter experts 😃
It worked! Thank you much, good sir!
Glad it helped, stay warm
after several years of not useing a wood stove, as i was TRYN to clikt my new pipes together !!!! i realized !!!
i couldnt cause i didnt remeber how
and i do know proper english
i just choose to type the way i prefer to talk
much love
this worked great. was easier than a different video i watched. thanks!!
I'm glad my fumbling helped you with your project
Worked great. Never thought about using my knees to hold it in place. Should have looked this up first and save myself the aggravation
I tried a few ways before settling on the knee squeeze method. Glad that worked out for you.
Very helpful!!! Thank you!!
Thanks
Thank you for this video it kept me from making a stove pipe instead of a pancakes with a mallet😂😂
Best advice... Put it on the floor! I had 5 footers 30 gauge. I put it on the floor and had the seam on the side and used cable tie to start it. By the 6th on ... 30 seconds. Thanx
Cable ties sound like an excellent idea for a second set of hands
Thanks Brad. Monster UPVOTE! Yuh know...I have carried out this operation a few times by myself. Last time mebbe 5 years ago. This time around it took me and the wife to get two sticks together. Not working out the way we were doing, I found your vid and with her holding a flashlight (black on black sucks when you get old) and me using your method...wah-la! Can't thank you enough! Now who do I send a letter to about this backwards flue pipe? You'd think after 120 years some company would have figgered out how to sell 'em put together. Ha!
Norm
Glad my video helped you and your wife succeed with your stove pipe assembly. Hope you stay warm come winter.
Would be nice if split stove pipes could be assembled more easily. Maybe one day they'll be a zipper version that can withstand heat & cool cycling.
@@BradSmithSC Ha! That would be grand! Thanks again Brad. I really wasn't looking forward to replacing my pipes. I *thought* I had it licked with two pieces. Turned out I needed a third after I knocked the old build down. Got everything ready but that. Tomorrow! Boy that stuff is expensive. Holler later!
fantastic thanks
I'm about to install two new sections...any problem with two pipe sections not sealing very good and letting smoke by due to one section maybe being "more oval" than the other?
If one pipe is oval and one is round then yes you might have some smoke leak into your room. However, that probably only occurs at the beginning when building a fire. I suspect once the draft is steadily moving up the pipe those gaps will suck in air from the room.
@@BradSmithSC yeah, I'm thinking the same. I've never used the "snap together" seams before, so was curious. Thanks for the videos!
Thanks 😊
Thank you!!!
Thank you ..you helped me
Stay warm :-)
Another thing that makes it easier is to get the crimped end in and put a ratchet strap on it so it can't get loose then push down and snap. It is a little easier on my worn-out hip.
A ratchet strap is a good use as a pair of 'extra hands'. Adding an old towel under the buckle portion might help prevent it from scraping the finish too.
The new exercise model
Make sure you do a proper warm up before beginning your stove pipe exercises :-)
@@BradSmithSC 😆
Wow ty
Other tools that will help: airplane worm clamp, strap of velcro, wire tie, a cutout circle of wood or plastic, piece of tire tube, large! rubber band...
The reason for flat pieces is more can be shipped and stored in a given space and less damage to the finished product. flue pipe, smoke pipe, vent pipe, snap pipe, duct
Those additional tools will act like an extra set of helping hands
Do you line up the seams, or stagger them off??
I line up the seams at one end and then work down the length. Sort of like a zipper. One challenge is the start of the seam falling back open while trying to connect the rest of it.
@@BradSmithSC the seams of 2 finished pipes. After the pipes are pressed together and you are stacking them to make chimney do you line up the seams of both pipes together or offset them
All I can say is: do you make housecalls
After farting around with this for over an hour. I decided it was time to reinvent the wheel. I did most of what the fella said with one very big difference. Once I got the corner in I clamped it with my vise grips on the very edge. Then started the over side of the pipe going at the corner. I did the same thing with the vice grips as well. Now the little f$%ker can't pop off. I worked it from the end towards the middle. If it gave me some grief I would simply switch to the other side. Once that I saw the seam "most" of the way in I remove both vise grips and started to round out the pipe and it sounded like a popcorn maker. DONE! I spent over an hour on my first 48 inch long pipe. Once I figured this trick out I had all four done in less then five minutes. I have never put pipe together before. I also have "0" patience for this kind of crap. So if I can do it I know you will have no trouble at all...lol. I truly hopes this spares some one some grief. I also feel for the amount of money they charge, it should be done at the factory or at the store that makes a hefty profit off of a piece of stamped sheet metal.
You expertly employed those vice grips into extra set of helping hands. Nicely done.
I agree, five dollars a foot for something that you have to assemble is a tad ridiculous, but I have a feeling things are going to get a lot worse!
So I guess you don't have to silicone the seams then?
The metal interlocks together tightly and I haven't found a need for any sealant. You might want to verify with someone more knowledgeable, especially if you have a unique case. These chimney pieces get quite hot so if you end up using something it must be heat friendly.
I made the mistake of installing my pieces upside down so the creosote running down the pipes leaks onto the outside of the pipes. That is not a sealant issue but an incorrect installation issue that can be remedied by flipping my pipes the other direction.
Those four foot pipes are about eight times harder to put together than the two footers!
So you're saying the difficulty increases at a geometric rate to the pipe length :-)
I have heated with wood stoves for 43 years. There is still a cloud of curse words hanging over Santa Fe from my wrestling with these d%#@d things! Michael
How frequently did you have to replace your stove pipes?
The real challenge is that THEY need to make a seamless pipe available in my area in the same lengths as these abominations........Life would be so grand then ;)
I think the price gap between nested split pipes versus fully round pipes (transporting, retail space) would be significant and consumers would pick the lower priced split pipes not knowing the assembly challenges ahead.
@@BradSmithSC I hear ya.....Just wish the option was there. Great video, by the way!!!
I have my pipes snapped together, and I prefer to wear gloves when working with sheetmetal. The part I want to see is sliding the pipes together especially where the seams are.
The pipes are crimped on one end and those fit inside the straight (uncrimpt) end of the other pipe. A bit less eventful than the snap together assembly :-)
When connecting pipes together it's important to ensure they are aligned straight to one another before driving in the sheet metal screws. Take your time on this step.
To get max grip I did not use my gloves. Only one small drop of blood lost. Yes, I brag. Coulda lost a finger!
@@OvGraphics a mix of blood & sweat works as a sacrificial lubricant in helping the seams snap together. Efficiency is improved when the ratio of each is just right :-)
@@BradSmithSC Hiya back Brad. Wull yeah, and don't forget a smidge of Brad. Gotta have that. So I went to the hardware a few minutes ago for that last stick. I axed the helpful hardware man if he knew how to put it together. Thought I might pick up another trick. "Sure!" says he. After about 5 minutes neither one of could make it work so I got down on on the floor and showed him the Brad method. Fidget, unsnap. Fidget, unsnap... One end secured, walk it up...SNAP! Hee hee. Learned HIM a new trick! Brad you are THE man!
Using a belt makes it easy
Do you use a series of belts and 'zipper' it up from one end to the other?
Everybody thinks that's really easy to put these pipes together and make them around again no matter how hard you try over it just seemed about 2 to 3 in on each side of the sink is flat it's very hard to get that area round again I'm working on some how to force that scene out so the pipes really around again anybody got any ideas let me know I also tried the 4" to 6" bladder that you could buy at harbor freight that doesn't
Some vehicle windows can be installed by adding a small piece of rope inside the H-channel of the rubber grommet and pulling it through one side. I've wondered if a similar method might also work for these stove pipe seams.
This should absolutely be done already. They charge way, way, way too much money at it is to just sell you a stamped piece of metal that you have to screw around with for hours. I am going to return mine have have them do it or refund me.
I think they are split so they can be nested taking up less storage space and probably less expensive to manufacture
@@BradSmithSC
For sure, but it wouldn't be that much of a problem for them to give you some instructions, or for the hardware store (or wherever you get them) to have a fixture to put them together for you!
@@marktwain2053 It'd be nifty if there was a pull cord technique to seam the two joints together. Sometimes truck rear windows can be put in by placing a cord around the rubber gasket and pulling it around the perimeter of the window. The cord pulls through one edge of the rubber gasket H-channel. A similar technique might also work here but would probably require a different joint type.
Why do they sell it apart for what they cost they should already have the seams put together and welded for you at the factory.It makes no sense to sell stove pipe that way. They don’t sell plumbing pipes that way . I believe in making things as simple and easy for people as possible when working on projects. Just saying.
My guess for this split-pipe configuration is more pipe sections can fit into a box since they can nest into one another
I agree with Brad. Problem is that when they first started shipping these things the Pony Express demanded this method. We're kinda past that now.
@@OvGraphics the heating and cooling contraction cycles these pipes experience probably also factors into the interlocking connection configuration. From the pipe manufacturer's point of view, they would have far more of an issue if the pipes unzipped themselves during an active fire versus assembly difficulty.
When it's done properly it dosent need to be bent outta shape and the back into round.. ridiculous internet how not to do it instructional video
Lmfao... is it pretty round..?? Or pretty oval..! Hahah.. this pipe is not designed to bendboutta shape and then back to half ass round.. it will compromise the seam and will never be perfect round like whan it's done correctly.. the internet cN be great for figuring out little tricks of the trade ..but . Also great for learning how not to do it..! Perfect example of how not to assemble these pipes..
Yeaaa don't do this. Leaves it messed up and won't work in your wood stove
Hey, thanks for your feedback. Is there a better way to do this?
@@BradSmithSC I wish I knew
Thanks