Train derailment on the ND&W Railroad
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- Опубліковано 24 лис 2017
- Napoleon Defiance and Western Railway train with PREX 1603 / PREX 3054 traveling east when a boxcar jumps off the track. In the 50 or so times I've filmed them this is actually the first time I filmed something derail. I've seen plenty of derailments along the line but never had a camera in the right place! After the engine sees that the car is plowing ballast they uncouple from that car and continue on without it.
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I work for a rail company and those are some of the sketchiest rails I have ever seen! I'm amazed they are even as functional as they are.
Camera trickery. Not that bad
@@johnmalinowski8978 Bad enough to derail a car at less than walking speed
Poor boxcar didn't derail, it was just looking for a smoother ride !!
Now that’s funny
Hah, it probably achieved its goal, to stop
Need to replace the worst of the rails at least.
ncplantdoctor 7u
ncplantdoctor and he found one
I find it really hard to believe that they would allow a train to go over tracks in that terrible condition
David Wilson idek man. It might be one of those back road tracks that nobody travels on. Ya know what I mean?
They did that because the tracks were relied on for certain things to reach their town. They had no choice but to run with poor rails.
The DL&W Keyser Valley Branch in Scranton, PA is just as Fucked..... I walked it and have photos, Video Exploration was completed a while ago
@@yourneighborhoodwierdo8349 I am also the weirdo of my neighborhood probably of south jersey 😂
Wtf is that?!
What are those tracks?
Did someone accidentally replace the rails with spaghetti?
it happens when the hunting oscillation damages the tracks as well. Still bad maintenance tho.
@@vteckickedin2365 It's much worse than bad maintenance, this track section should be closed permanently.
I was going to say rubber bands.
They are not spaghetti, they are crooked railroad tracks.
William Dean They are not rubber bands, just crooked railroad tracks.
It's a miracle anything stays on those tracks in the first place.
I'm always amazed at just how crappy a track a train will actually follow.
What else are trains gonna follow? A squirrel?
That's why no steering wheels
Sir toppham hatt was crossed
That Copyright Guy Lmao
Diesel gave the trucks an extra hard biff and the one truck derailed...
It's always the troublesome trucks😁
@@railcord6969 You mean troublesome tracks?
You sound like you are a Thomas fan 😂🤣😁😀🤗☺️😉
ND&W management probably blamed the engineer for the derailment.
Bet management didn’t know about the derailment til the video
That's right! HA! They'll be coming after you now for libel and slander! Fake news! You'll have to build them an HO scale layout, see if they can run{or ruin} that!
Ha lol
There ya go Bob. Jump on the management of a small holding company trying to preserve lines like this. Typical railfan BS. Don't bother to thank the individuals trying to save short lines. Oh no. Just criticize them.
Lol
I think I saw a track inspector in the bushes eating a jelly doughnut.
donald hamilton 😂😂😂😂
thats gay
Is that a Full Metal Jacket reference?
These donuts are great! Jelly-filled are my favorite! Nothing beats a jelly-filled donut
@@isaurivas3307 so you are the track inspector ???? ...go back to work ..will you ..??
That's just absurd that a railroad would be allowed to operate on trackage like that. Either shut it down and do the required maintenance or close it down permanently. GEESH !!!
Doug & Kathy Davies actually it's probably more safe because they are traveling at such a slow speed. Had this car derailed on a different railroad it may have left it's wheels.
The federal government regulates the quality of rail, and these conditions probably fall under excepted track classification.
How does the track twist like that? Heat?
Antony Gill lack of maintenance. The ballast, which is the rocks under the rails and ties, has been pushed out from under the ties and need tamped. Also it's possible from lack of maintenance that the ties have simply rotted away.
its not like that down in Ohio where there at, wow you sound like your from California. 1. its not heat, it has been neglected for over 50 years 2. Down here in Ohio We don't Have strict laws against rail management and the owners are Ignoring the tracks, also most of the tracks here are strait and maintained and only a few are like that. also Antony its not that hot in Ohio If you don't know where Ohio is, its close to Canada. Also Boxcars flip easy
They just should have pulled it to the road crossing. Every model railroader knows there is a rerailer at the road crossing!
hoosierhobbies lmfao
loll
So true.
hoosierhobbies That's what I was thinking too!
I've rerailed more than one railcar on a road crossing....and I'm talking about the big ones
Its really hard to tell when it derails. It just behaves normally.
I grew up near the old Seaboard Coastline NW of Atlanta and walked those rails as a kid in the 1970's, in the caboose era, collecting the occasional glass ball the hopper cars would drop. There were gouges in the crossties from a derailed car that was dragged for over 5 miles. That section is part of the Silver Comet Trail today.
We don't need no stink'in rails, just drag it through the dirt!
Lol
HAHAHA
ikr
Probably a smoother ride dragging it over the ties and gravel rather than those railes.
But then its too heavy .-.
You a brave soul to stand that close and its wobbling!
I live in Defiance so I see this track pretty regularly. There are two separate tracks that run through town, with one being CSX high speed and the other is this. The rails aren't used for almost anything besides moving cars short distances.
So, you're saying the rails aren't supposed to look like that, and that's not supposed to happen?
Asking for a local politician friend.
I would have got a shot of the boxcar after the train left. In my day, we would have put down a rerail frog, normally carried on the side of the locomotive near the fuel tank, and pulled the car back up onto the rails and kept on a goin!
Actually I didn’t realize the car was on the ground til I got home and reviewed the video.
Scott Taipale
Oh well, still a great video!
Yeah, many special things are found when reviewing at home.
looks like it was too far off to use a frog ??? I really cant see how they can even run on that .
... what's a retail frog ...
Why does this have so many dislikes! This is quality content! Great video
Blame it on deferred maintenance... probably going all the way back to when N&W took over the track from the Wabash in 1964! You just gained a subscriber!
I heard there had ene no maintenance on the line in 50 years.
The little boxcar that said "FUCK IT!" lmao
After 40 years of hauling freight it’s time to retire
The train: Why do i have to suffer through this
(Boxcar): “Ow....OW! It hurts, it HUUUURRRTS!” (Derails) “AHHHH, that’s heaven!”
I'm surprised that doesn't happen way more often.
It used to happen a few times a week. I think it may be down to once a month
Oboy, they're getting better! 😂
Don't be surprised. It happens a lot!
The guy has only so much time to tape comedy events.
The U.S. averages 3 derailments every single day. That's 1-2 orders of magnitude higher (or in some cases, even more) than any other developed country. Thankfully, in a case like this, it's obvious to the engineer that you can't run at speed over a rail like this, so that keeps them "relatively" safe. It's when they're poorly maintained but still look fine that you have to worry, because then they're hauling the cargo at speed - that's when things like the derailment this past year happen and the damage runs well into the billions or more.
I’m surprised the two locomotives and the rest of the train stayed on rails that bad!
These engineers have balls of steel to ride these rails!
Every time I see some of NDW’s older videos the phrase “make a freight train take a dirt road” comes to mind.
on aweful track like that I'm surprised it was only the last car that derailed and not the entire train.
been waiting for this
Me too
Wow, those tracks are as crooked as a politician.
I initially thought this was from underdeveloped country. But the moment I came to know that these are from the US I was just so shocked that I was out of words.
I'm glad they eventually noticed that car on the ground before a large amount of damage was done. Great catch Scott!
Thank you! I figure the keep looking out for that to happen
yes I hate to see such great trackwork get damaged!!
Wow crazy but not a surprise. Everyone knew that would happen
Yup, those tracks are like something out of a 3rd world ... no wonder why the cars derail!
With the amount of swaying on those light rails, it is no surprise that this derailment happened.
Benjamin Esposti Sooner or later they are gonna have a locomotive derail.
Eric F Oxndine Yep
Seems strange that a train could derail on those pristine tracks.....
I seriously didn’t believe that railroad’s allowed their tracks to get that messed up
The track looks so bad because the video was filmed on a telephoto setting, which compresses perspective. The track needs a tamper to lift & re-pack the ballast where the rail is plated to the next length, because that's where there is most movement.
I used to work at Southampton Docks and there was a rail line that was about as straight and parallel as these and I often wondered how the train stayed on the bloody things!
How could such a thing happen on such pristine trackwork?
That was awesome, excellent filming!!!!!!
Hello Scott, I was a share holder In Pioneer I am happy they got this line running.
Now why did that boxcar derail?
That rail was a straight and smooth as an arrow.
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(The sort of arrow you see on a roadsign on a mountain pass)
Simply speeding, the engineer ride way to fast. He should go out and push it.
Boxcar: GET ME OUT OF HERE! I NEED HIGH QUALITY RAIL
Those are some jacked up tracks! The doesn’t even look like it’s on a rail, just rocks.
What developing country is this from?
Tatu Itkonen the good old United States of America
Hashtag sarcasm.
So ohio is developing
I'm from California... we certainly have our problems but at least our railways aren't on par with third world countries.
US railways are pretty shite to be honest, it's old and completely unsafe, the USA should get some inspiration from the UK or Japan when it comes to railway safety...
Compared to the lighter boxcar which jumped about the distortions, the engines had enormous weight keeping them in the tracks. And as long as those tracks remain fixed to the ties, the width still accommodates the carriage.
I'm just now seeing this, this is an absolute embarrassment! Really, I hope this was reported. Squiggly railroad tracks and shipments already can't get anywhere as it is, but really, a derailment is serious.
“The boxcar has left the rail”. Yep, I can sympathise with that, we’ve all had those kinds of days.
Nice video!
The problems: Old equipment and railroad line. I know the railroad is making upgrades, but honestly, the entire line needs to be reballasted, not just replacing ties here and there and new rails if need be.
The need be phase went critical 50 years GO.
Now its survival.
How is the track that uneven? Absolutely insane. I wouldn’t feel comfortable anywhere near a heavy freight on those rails - scary!
Past railroad owners have never fixed the track
It was bound to happen someday! Nice catch!
Nice video !!!
This model is running on Korean railroad
This locomotive is ma favorite model :)
I’m surprised that the axle actually stayed in place with all that up-and-down movement. Could’ve been more damaging if the axle were to come off the truck frame.
Let me guess Scott, this was down by Cecil, right? If so, it wouldn't surprise me, as that portion is one of the last major portions of the track that needs to be re-worked. There are a few short sections that are in need of re-work, but are still usable, and a couple of longer sections that really need it badly. In fairness, they are doing their best, considering the limited number of maintenance crewmen they have. Also, they did get a brand new tamper a while back, so they can do a better job of getting the ballast under the ties for leveling and rail realignment . Thanks for the video.
Yes about 3 miles west of Cecil. Much of the railroad is now in reasonably safe condition
@@ScottTaipaleRail As an outsider, I do have to question what "reasonably safe condition" means. Is it in "reasonably safe condition" compared to this? Or in reasonably safe condition compared to, say, a properly maintained rail line where derailments aren't something that happens so often it rarely even makes the news? Like, compared to Japanese or European rails, for instance.
(For context, I do know that these rail sections were bought by another company that has spent quite a lot of time fixing them - I know it isn't the company that allowed them to get into this condition in the first place anymore.)
Great and detailed capture....!
Thank you
That ballast looks smoother than the rails
This is like trying to make it home on a flat tire!
after you take the wheel off the car!
How are they allowed to even run on such bad track ?? the Feds should mandate some repairs .
John Siders We don't need more gov't interference
Well my thinking they supply AG services hate to see a tanker of Anhydrous Ammonia derail and open up that would be a disaster !! bad stuff to be let loose .
BECAUSE THIS IS OHIO!
THE LAWS ARE *WEEK* FOR RAILS AND THE OWNERS ARE RETARDED OR SOMETHING. also you sound Californian, Californians never understand ohio
I used to live in Columbus The laws on rails are not state but federal I thought about taking the speeder up there to run it but as one said it may become a flying speeder its been improved a bit I hear though
i was tired when i made that reply, i didn't know what i was talking about
The tracks joined in 1997 but they are now spaghetti
Wow, that was a good one!
They should of had better maintained rails
Most of the tracks down here in Ohio are really strait but its just that one stretch of tracks, the owners wont fix them, they have been neglected and we don't have laws that force them to fix the rails (or if we do there just not taken care of by the police). The laws in Ohio are different then other states, if you where from Ohio (like me) you would understand why. Also boxcars flip easy unlike other types of trains and its the train drivers fault for driving fast, the train wouldn't of derailed if it went slower and i know that it takes a long time for trains to slow down but its his fault for not knowing about them ahead of times.
Definitely, DeerSlayere... as-is, those rails are like random-noise patterns on an o'scope's screen.... all chaotic
Understood, poster tach... I hope that 'law' situation gets remedied... that rail section is just too wrong.
poster-tach Someone who claims they understand how the railroad works when they really don't. It's practically impossible for the engineer to go slower than he was, so don't go ranting and bitching about him. If you have a couple million dollars laying around in your bank account to repair some of their tracks with, be my guest. You don't? Then stay out of it.
those tracks are what your name is. Fucked Up Beyond All Repair!!!!!
man i sure wonder why it derailed the tracks look like theyre in perfect condition
Are you f*ck*ng kidding me with those tracks?? Holy sh*t!!
Interesting video! Good work! Thumbs Up
Greetings from Romania
Andrew
How did only one car in this jump the track.... if I was that train, I'd tell them to f off I'm taking the road!
How does anything stay on the rails as bad as they are
It’s amazing the light weight brittle rail will still flex
They don’t
scott do you mean *FLEX SEAL*
Low speed. That's why the train was going as slow as it was. Still not good enough though lmao.
Gravity and a ton of luck.
THE NEW AND UN-IMPROVED PENN-CENTRAL!!!
the cars look like they are rolling on the ground half the time!!!
Wow ! Amazing video, greetings from Poland, +
The rail line owner needs to be cited and all permits to transport ANYTHING held. Hauling ANYTHING, especially hazardous cargo on a piece of crap section of rail like this is criminal.
A rather moronic statement. I am not an expert on the rail maintenance requirements of any state, first off, and second using such a poorly maintained section of track to haul ANYTHING through a populated area -let alone any type of chemical- is absolutely criminal and patently insane.
BTW, the term is 'weak' not 'week'. Maybe you should have paid more attention in elementary school spelling class.
Weak, not week. Last week he skipped school, perhaps a reason for his weak spelling skills.
These cars moved hundreds if not thousands of miles. On the last few miles they move slowly down a slow speed branch line to final destination. Hundreds of polluting trucks were off the road. Freight rates were kept down for the small town customers served by the line. A derailment on this line is a minor inconvenience. Patently insane is running propane in trucks at 70 mph on the interstate. The likelihood of injury, death and widespread damage is far far far far far greater on the highway than anything that will happen in this small branhline
@@Gizmologist1 if your not an expert than shut up
In other words, YOU are totally devoid of any modicum of common sense. If I were in a position of authority in that town, I would not permit the use of that block of track for ANY type of freight hauling. The irresponsibility of any RR to transport ANYTHING over that track until all the rails are replaced with brand new, inspected rail stock, laid over brand new sleepers on completely re- graded and reballasted rail bed is beyond the pale. Suppose just one single tank car derails and rolls on it side and leaks a caustic or poisonous, gaseous cargo. Would you like that train riding rails right next to your business or house? I seriously doubt it. I guess you are unaware of the numerous news stories and YT videos of trains derailing and tipping on tracks in MUCH better condition than these.
Belíssimo vídeo apesar dos trilhos no início do registro estarem em condições aparentemente sem manutenção, linda captura like garantido 👏💯
I love your ND&W Vids Scott.The Carolina Piedmont (Laurens To Mauldin) and the Pickens (Anderson to Starr) branch lines here in SC were in as bad of shape as the ND&W. Somehow,..the Shortlines were able to fix the trackage. I think the State pitched in and in the CPRR's case,..so did GE which shipped Turbines using the Laurens To Mauldin branch. Now both have 100 lb rail and look pretty good. Good luck to the ND&W.
The ballast is smoother than the rails that's why the car jumped off track
This is scary
Im confused, where is the derailment
Did you not see it, or are you being sarcastic?
@@LakeStateRailfan I still dont see it.
@@fuzzydragon It's way in the back, probably hard to see because of the track condition.
Did it self rail when things evened out?
How often does this happen here?
Are they ever going to make some track (and bed) repairs?
My eleven year old granddaughter saw this clip and wants rocky and bumpy ride on a train on this line 😂😂.
Damn. Wondering how long it will take them to fix it. Looks like a job for RJ Corman.
Years I figure. Maybe they’ll get a deal on heavier rail sometime
so far over 50 years
+Nolan Cain It looks like a job for Herzog!
It's a wonder that there's actually no regulation that would forbid this railroad to operate on that track... I'm pretty sure ie German railroads wouldn't even be permitted to run on such horrible tracks due to safety standards.
AwesomeSource Films this is America, land of the McDonald’s. We have low standards
I could hardly believe what I was watching. Here in the UK tracks are regularly inspected by engineering trains wirh state of the art laser technology fitted on the underside. In London (where more than 50 trains an hour run over the tracks at peak times) daily inspections are carried out. As soon as a fault is discovered, it is visually inspected and mostly a 15mph speed limit imposed. Full repair is normally completed within a few days by a team of engineers working overnight.
In the past, we had a few derailments caused by excess speed over compound points. Most of these are now protected by a speed control signal on the approach. This system has 2 sensors about 50 feet apart. as the train passes over the first, it starts a timer which drops the hammer at the second point. If a train is going too fast, full braking will be applied overriding the driver and recording the exact speed. Several drivers have lost their jobs over the years as a result of serious or repeated mistakes.
We're on a path in this country to eliminate ALL regulations on companies. Profits before safety is the new national motto.
President Trump is going to make railroading great again so just chill
The irony is the German network is in a far worse shape then this line. Not to mention UK, that is absolute catastrophe. People may laught at these worn out tracks, but the point is, Europe does not even have trafic that would have worn them out in the first place.
This track needs tens of thousands of dollars the company is going to invest as profits are made. German tracks need tens of bilions of dollars not only no one has, but noone is going to waste onto the state owned infrastructure manager. The only ones that can fix the rails are people who have no idea how to fix rails.
But yeah. They have shiny new rail and cannot keep up with the demand for asphalt. Well. At least no one can laught at thestate of their infrastrucutre, right?
That's some power there that big boy still pulling with that car off the rails 💪🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Railroads in America are pathetic. I was walking on an opetational length of track near where I live, with my son, and couldn't believe trains actually ran along it. And it looked 100% better than the one in this clip. Scary.
Why this isnt illegal is beyond me. That should be a felony.
not in Ohio that is, this is in my home state of Ohio and the cops are retarded and ITS NOT LIKE CALIFORNIA ARE LAWS ARE WEEK SO GO BACK TO CALIFORNIA (fuck this turned into a attack) (its caps because i'm tired of typing)
I knew that would happen considering the condition of the tracks it was only a matter of time
I’m actually surprised it took me this long to film one
where abouts on google maps is this grade crossing?
RD 87 just west of Cecil
@@ScottTaipaleRail The funny/sad thing is that despite there being no signs or anything, I still had a gut feeling this was from Ohio.... I was right
That horn is amazing WOW !!!
Again your great locos !!!! High zoom timelapse !!!!
Thank you!
That track looked worse than the road to Hana in Maui.
Oh and by the way, "taggers" are like dogs pissing on things to mark their territory.
Lol I’ve never looked at it that way but that’s a proper comparison
On the scale of fucked up things, taggers are so way down the list....
Beautiful India.
This is in Ohio, United States of America.
Major f***ing oof moment.
Boxcar be like, “hey, this track so ugly, I’m choosing to take the dirt road. YEET!
I like that car at 2:50 that said, BUILDING AMERICA. Maybe but I think we are a little off track.
If I learnt correctly, this happens as track expand in the sun and use. And cools at night and when not is use. Right?
Track maintenance , what's that ?
This company should be made to do up the tracks or get out of business !
Danny Gayler
Then you don't get your toilet paper to wipe your ass. Pick your battles wisely son.
Ζ † N ; says the guy who knows nothing.
Ζ † N ; hahahahahaha! Ok Rambo . Your a legend.... In your own mind.
thats retarded Danny the laws here are week and people are cheep so shut your Californian mouth or what ever state your from idk (this isn't supposed to be rude Opps)
poster tach goddamn you are just ridiculous. You say “the laws are weak and the people are cheap” like it’s a good thing? Pathetic. Your state sucks, and judging by your spelling and critical thinking, Ohio puts about as much resources into education as their railroads. For the sake of the human race, please don’t have children. You probably have five already, though.
Reminds you of the old Penn Central days doesn't it?
toyota is a UGLY Piece Of SHIT
How bad are rails and the rail bed allowed to get before they are replaced ?
What is the latest for improving track conditions, including heavier rail, if any?
Lots of ties and ballast. I haven’t heard of rail upgrades yet
poor boxcar didnt derail it was just looking for a smoother ride
Huh I wonder where you came up with that comment
best comment! hAHAHA
I didn’t copy it
What could be so important that someone would risk the crews life and potential ecological catastrophe for. PEACE
MONEY!!!! Money rules everything, money has precedence over who lives or dies.
The train crews operating this line are vastly safer on the job than commuting to and from work on the interstate. Ecological catastrophe? Seriously? That happens with pipelines, fast moving freights or over-loaded trucks moving hazmat in populated areas. You need to open your mind and think before posting
@@Argoon1981 Absolutely. The mark of an irredeemably primitive society.
Awesome !
Timing is everything, good one.
Thank you!
India and rest of the developing countries have better tracks than these lol
thumbs down. pluss i m not watching train vides as much any more since you put advertizement blocks covering the last portion of the video. stop it or i quit all together!
Sorry about the ad blocks but most channels use them these days.
Edit some skippable material at the end, so we don't care.
I was hoping to see the boxcar get dragged over the road crossing.
Kids around the world know this exact feeling - every time your model train falls off the track when it hits the shag carpet in the living room. Why oh why couldn't our parents get a low-pile carpet? The horror....
I can't believe the condition of that track.. at least the tanker was empty with no placards.. I'm a conductor with CSX and I would have refused to travel on that track..