you said I need to rotate between other team members with lee, but after that u say I should get vera (who can just be replaced by SSS+ arclight and it wouldn't make a difference in gameplay as cw never swaps anyway) instead of liv. then who am I gonna be switching to, if not her?
I like Lee too, I don't care people online are calling him fujo-bait and "hyperhomo", he's fun to play and he looks cool. Plus he makes me laugh whenever he says: "you're chance of survival has been reduced to zero"
it's baffling to me that his first ult doesnt have timestop, but even ayla, a free amplifier, has timestop on the activation of her ult, which doesnt even do much damage. it's so strange they only put the timestop on his second ult, meanwhile everyone else got two (i think). maybe their idea was that they didnt want to break the fire team because, at the time of his release in CN, fire was the only team with 3 characters who had time stop, but idk... seems unfair. i will still pull him though
Kuro removed his timestop in his 1st ult because they feared he could break PPC. Other gen 2 attackers are like: 1st ult->5-6s->2nd ult. Hyperreal is like: 1st ult->0.5s->2nd ult. According to the beta testers, that was way too broken so they took it off, it still sounds unfair tho, other attackers can ult 2s after with the right investiment, it sounds like bias towards Lee tbh
But like didnt they say and lee as well say that thus frame hasn't reached its full potential so wouldnt that mean he would probably get a new frame later on or nah because yh know the bias towards the male constructs
and those numbers go up to 5147% and 3294%, but his damage is not why they call him bad. they do that because his ult isn't spammable like cw, lamia, balter n qu + has no time stop on his first ult
Before hyperreal i used max leap palefire sss+ bc that was my only/best fire option. Now i use palefire with hyperreal so i can deal dmg when hyperreal is on cd.
His design is the sole reason I went for him, and his damage is a massive plus as well. He doesn't need to be the best at damage imo but be great enough that I want to use him. What really matters for me is a character's visual presentation and the consistency of design choices that allow for unique and fun gameplay. Lee's definitely has some of the coolest animations in the game for me so that's my main reason for pulling him. Watanabe may have outdps'ed him but Lee's gameplay drip is still top tier.
I love the lightshow moveset where it gives epileptic seizures while looking cool as hell, I don't think any other character gives you as much of a dopamine dump as hyperreal does - maybe crimson weave
Most F2P players don’t even stand a chance in competing with the P2W players, so you’re someone like me who likes meta but is F2P and always have second doubts before pulling for a character. Just pull for Lee if you like him, if you play the game with the characters you don’t like then it will just feel like a chore. I say prioritise fun over meta if you don’t plan on spending. (You can also just pull for the other characters in the future and imo won’t take that long especially if you still have story to clear)
To the people skipping Lee: Thanks for making my Fire Warzone brackets easier! (I know this joke shouldn't even exist but hey, it needed to be done kekw) Also 1:21 🤣
It's heartening to see that there are still some Global Content Creators actively trying to clear up the misinformation surrounding Lee: Hyperreal. An alarming portion of the playerbase has definitely been baited by "Lee Skippable" agenda, so it's good that there are still some more objective, actually _explanatory_ sources of info regarding this weirdly divisive frame. 👍
Lee is still gonna be one of the best Fire attackers for a long, long while so he's still very much important. And besides, if Live Empyrea got a Leap but Nanami got powercrept, who's to say that Lee won't get a LEEP (sorry) upgrade himself in the future?
So far, only Capricio that get so many buff in her skill from all the history of PGR character, and now she'll get her leap too after Teddy's patch... I just hope that they'll also gives Lee this chance too, it seems like they feel reluctant to buff male character on this game, while always giving the best preferential treatment for female characters...
@@gnuhgnauqneyugn he probably meant her previous leaps. Capriccio has gotten _two_ leaps now, another one in the future. Mostly QoL for her standard and ultimate orbs' targeting. The real buff is coming to Empyrea though. In Teddy's patch (after Ice Qu's) she's getting orb sorting, faster ultimate, more orbs during rotations, basically bringing her up to par with other modern gen 2 characters. Which is why it's funny that she still remains a background character. You use Uncle like 70% of the time, Lee 30% of the time, and you maaaaybe switch to Empyrea in very niche situations, like when you already spent the orbs of both Lee and Uncle, there's 3 seconds left in Warzone, and Empyrea's available. Maybe. So yeah, don't skip Lee lol.
@@Sercotani Capricio never got any leap, the one that she got is buff, 3-4x before it finalized in No.21 or Noctis patch... There's already a leak showing a shadow of Capricio frame in the daily punishing wave fp...
the fact that i have heard him be constantly called the "true fire god" made me think he was just crazy cool to begin with... then i read the story bits and i just had to grab him. any character that has time travel bullshit in their story done well is a character for me. seeing how they handled it actually had me on the edge of my seat. like seriously. how does a mobile game do this to me? anyways ty for coming to my ted talk
1:20 "Wait- how did that get into the script?" I question that myself, GRR. Either way, great videos and topics, as usual. Keep it up. *-Unknown Construct **_a_*
New player here! Even if I don't have any of the meta characters.. *he is one of the reason why I downloaded the game so-* (tbh idk where had I been for the past 4 years, 😊This game got amazing stories- but at least Im not too late :'>)
He looks cool, he can snipe, his kits looks awesome, gameplay looks insane and i am sure the story is going to go hard. I mean what more can anyone ask for? I don't understand why people hate him, his design looks insane. I can't wait get him stand in the spotlight of my full fire team, emp and nanami. A Lee Finally can rest!
I've got ALL the constructs and I've been a light spender, using the monthly and one of the battle passes. I have a bunch of cards saved so I'm GETTING the true firegod. I saw his frame in the live stream it was teased in and was one of the bois who LOVED him since the beginning. He's a homie and homies deserve respect.
This man, along with Lucia CW and Bianca Stigmata is what made me return to PGR after quitting for awhile lol. Absolutely fell inlove with his gameplay so of course I'm getting him
I don't even try to understand whose dmg does better than who. I only learn their tricks to play and figure out which i feel most comfortable to play with. And as someone who has balter, i didn't feel that. Thankfully, i felt that with Lee hyperreal. ❤
Spoiler alert: Lee may be the weakest but in terms of lore, He is the only being who sides with humanity that was able to pass the trials of the tower and has the potential to reach the realm of god. Inside the tower, He is teh strongest being of humanity. The only beings that can beat him are ishmael and to an extent von neggut Fun fact: He is the first and only pro-humanity ascendant
Do you w@eebs even know what God means? He is the One that knew everything that would pass, every thought every single human would think(surprised or poking fun) during their lifetime, everything before even the first soul was made. He is Omnipotent, All Knowing, All Powerful, Omnipresent. The waves, the wind, the soil, the mountains, the enemy's body all are a servant to it, only the soul has the choice to oppose. If God is merely unamused, He doesn't even have to do anything, the winds will cut you, the soil will engulf you, your own body will neglect the commands of your soul sheerly out of the obedience & submission it has for it's Creator. Stop saying godlike & literal God like the weebs you & your kind are. You can't fathom who God is, someone whose existence Himself denies the basic rules of reality He Himself made, He is the creator of Space & Time & exists beyond Time. You can't fathom Him. God's presence isn't even required to bring everything down to their knees, it's merely a "Be" & It is
I don’t think he’s the worst he’s really amazing and shame on the ones who calls him the worst and useless I think he’s useful and amazing that’s why I’m getting him and also he’s coming back and so am I and I’m really at the pity to get him
He is the worst Gen 2 attacker by damage numbers, number of timestops, etc. That's objective, it's facts found not by opinion but by running calculations. But he's still a Gen 2 attacker which means he's still incredibly strong, and still better than any other fire attacker that exists. In any group, somebody has to be the weakest. That doesn't mean they're weak compared to everything else, only that they're weak compared to their group. It's like fighting the weakest black belt at any given dojo. He'll still kick your ass, he's just not as good as all the other black belts.
@randomaccount3364 i agree with you, but i still think one needs to be careful about just saying "yeah X is the worst one". 'Cause as we've seen with just HyperLee some people see that statement and read it is "oh, so X is bad". Now this is the fault of the latter for reading it as such but it tends to bleed over into the more innocent group who'll hear the second incorrect statement and believe it.
If you're starting today, you still have enough time to SSS+ chrome arclight, doing so allows him to do 30% shred which is honestly great for an A rank, so if you're missing empy, and garnet, this is something you should consider.
My glorious son will continue to be the meta fire team attacker for 1 year Atleast He and Watanabe will be brothers in arms, not enemies Also kuro please give him two time stops and a leap so he can compete with the other attackers
I'm definitely rolling for him and his signature weapon since it will make fire WZ about 5x more enjoyable than using Pulse to stall for Empyrea and Starfarer. If Hestia somehow appears in my weapon banner rolls, it is perfectly fine.
I love his design and kit. Lee will still be like the best for 10 months. From here on out all those gen 2 attackers I will be rolling them, SSS here we go. Thanks for the lovely guide!
I sacrificed over 2 years of gaming to not follow the meta fire (skipped Nier team, skipped Palefire leap, my Ember is only S, no hypertune) and now I don't intend to suffer for another 10 months: with Hyperreal, I finally complete the real fire team!
Ngl, you’d pull Lee hyperreal for the style, and that’s 100% all valid And let’s not forget, being the worst of the best, STILL MEANS you’re among the best
they said I couldnt pull hyperleeal because of the BC drain. they said it'd take 15k BC. It only took 5k. and hey now I actually have a decent fireteam member!
i've always thought that pgr is about expanding rosters and main dps = whose play style you enjoy the most so when i see ppl keep commenting "skip hyperreal" i was like "??? okay then have fun malding with gen 1 attackers ig 😭" i really don't understand their problem but oh well, they can skip and mald while my fire wz scores are at an all-time high
i wanna pull for him no matter what, he's my favorite attacker and his gameplays is godlike, i hate people say that is useless, fuck it i wanna love him with my life and play with him, empyria and nanami for a long time :3
My mind has changed when I pulled him for 30 rolls and he comes to me. Also got his sig weapon in 17 rolls and now I’m still grinding for more 5 rolls to reach his CUB. First time I got him, I exchanged 4 Turing and 2 Cottie and he can solo Fire Warzone to reached 800k points with only 3 lv.45 Turing. That’s too far from my S chainsaw Nanami. It comes from 386k to 800k easily and I see this is a big W for me even he is the worst gen 2.
Ah, so this is why Empyrea showed up on the Arrival Construct banner, which goes a week into Lee's release. This is some really strong bait for someone like me who really only has an ice team from starting a couple weeks ago. Looks like I'll just sit until Feb for the Alpha/Vira-Garnet combo. I think I risk too much dumping my BCs into trying to get both Empyrea and Lee
I think you can replace Vera Garnet with Chrome Arclight with little difference since they both act as QTE bots. That way, you can get Hyperreal now, and use the CW selector to get Empyrea. Empyrea is essential sub-dps for fire team, Garnet is non-essential QTE shred that can be replaced by Arclight pretty much indefinitely until you get Garnet.
Lee is such a fun character to play.Imo He probably has 2nd most fun gameplay among gen 2 behind Alisa after trying him in Taiwan server. I just love character with guns so I'm hyped for him.
Me who is gonna invest everything into Lee just to piss off some people who get angry when you are having fun instead of going full meta Plus my man is cool af and part of Gray Raven. Anything for him *pulls out wallet*
As a dedicated Lee fan, since the very start of global, who is maxing out his original version to the best of my abilities as an f2p, i will love and cherish Hyperreal no matter what people think about him. Let me have fun with my favourite character who was in oblivion for 2(?) years. I might even lose my f2p status in pgr, cause i want to SSS him on his first banner.
Is he even really that weak if all the content in the game is kind of either catered to specific elements/conditions or is just not so hard that you would care if the character is overpowered? Like - you'll never see Bianca outdamage Lee in a fire Warzone/PPC (unless she's hyperinvested ig) and you probably won't care if he's overpowered or not in any rogue-like modes (For example. You can put any other event mode here too). I guess maybe the only exception is Babel but 1 - it's not even around that long; and 2 - you don't even actually need to get that high of a level to get all the ACTUAL rewards. Not saying that the video is bad or that the information is useless because it's still good to know how units stack up against each other but I just personally feel like any new character is worth pulling, especially if you're a new player, because all new units end up stronger than whatever they're replacing + the game gives you enough BC to get all new characters so there's literally no excuse... ASSUMING THAT WE'RE BEING OBJECTIVE OF COURSE lul. If someone wants a weapon, cub or gacha skin for someone else which is, again, OBJECTIVELY SPEAKING not optimal as a F2P but I get liking certain characters to want to invest more into them, then I can understand skipping someone for the sake of that but any other reason I just don't get. Anyways, the video is still a banger. Thank you for always bringing us all the info on our favorite game ❤
also i want to skip because i want bianca snow petal coating in alpha lightning patch. even thought i have liv and nanami, lee A sss+ full leap is enough for me until watanabe come. sorry hyperreal 😢
I pull for his main screen rizz and snipery bang bangs (I also pulled Wanshi for his snipery bang) XD Who needs meta when you gave up on fighting Warzone Lords already?
Thank GRR for clearing my thoughts! I'm a new player and just started, so I was thinking skiping Lee because I played Honkai Impact 3 before and it was important there to have at least 1 full team so you can bruteforce content and I don't have any good fire units now, so I was really suprised when people said I should NEVER skip Lee. But I got Garnet from my 40 pity and budget Dark team to help me clear content and waiting for Crimson and Lamia (my beloved), so I'm gonna save my funds c:
Never skip Lee. He is one of the few units who can brute force content without his specific element team. Him and Alpha Crimson Weave are the only two coming out soon that can run fine with out-of-team characters and still be meta.
@@TheBoltMaster456 I'm not so familiar with this game and how stages works. Does one Lee works better then full invested team of other element on fire specific stages?
@@semechka6407 yeah this Lee is just that good, he can hypercarry without Nanami Starfarer or Liv Empyrea and still do better than the old fire meta team(Nanami Pulse, Karenina Ember and Lee Palefire/Sophia). You can run Lee Hyperreal + Ayla Brilliance/Rosetta Rigor with 4 shakespear/2 gloria memory set + any A rank support unit/SSS amplifier unit. And that can substitute for the lack of either of the fire tank Nanamis(pulse and starfarer) and for the lack of Liv Empyrea, until you can get them at least.
@@TheBoltMaster456 ironic considering hes the first one to get replaced, the only one who cant spam ult and the only one who actually CANT solo at all LMFAOOO
One more thing people overlooked is that Lee Hyperreal has the highest chance of survivability. Thanks to his Hypermatrix. But I'm pretty sure someday he will back as Top fire meta once he get a leap skill. Unless Kuro decided to create another Lee and Liv frame to pare with Lucia for some unknown new type of element since we recently got a new element time, Void, for Luna.
Good video, new sub, I'm a new player, and I've been thinking about shooting, I want Lucia's team, but my scores in war zone are affected since I don't have a good fire attacker.
You should make a video about who of the upcoming characters to prioritize to SS with paincage skulls, since it is not posible to get the needed skulls for every new S rank in its debut.
I think a lot of people get this misleading impression of PGR ever since it released in Global and that is following the "who to roll for" guides exactly as how they do it in games like Genshin or Arknights. In Genshin, when people say that a new 5 star character powercreeps an older equally good 5 star character of the same element due to certain mechanics, that is fine to listen to, because even if you're a new player, if you make an account the moment the new character was released, you can roll for them. Same with arknights, if the CN server get new characters, it doesn't really matter because Arknights is a strategy game and its gameplay doesn't revolve on a single character hypercarrying content. Even when Surtr or Thorns was released during their golden ages, people didn't just put them down on their own to win stages, but their existence made everything easier. The same cannot be said with PGR. When a new character releases in PGR and people say it completely powercreeps this or that character, it doesn't matter. You won't be getting that character's patch until a whole ass year. The question you should be asking would be, are you still going to be playing AFTER 1 year? If yes, then feel free to skip certain characters even if its not recommended to do so. Lastly, as you said in the video, you need multiple teams in this game, for what reason should you really really skip excellent characters?
Love this video, but disagree on the last bit. I think Empyrea is definitely the best choice from the selector in CW's patch since Garnet is essentially just a QTE bot anyways once Crimson Weave is released, so you can make do with Arclight (who is an A-rank too, so you can farm for his shards). All Garnet will do is provide a bit of extra resistance shred anyways. Empyrea on the other hand is definitely a more crucial upgrade to the fire team than Garnet is to the lightning team. Players who want to even remotely be meta should definitely pull for him and then use the selector to get Empyrea, then substituting another tank for resistance shred if they don't have Starfarer. Plus, Hyperreal and Watanabe are really perfectly made for each other; they rotate really well into one another, so yeah, Hyperreal is definitely a must-have and must-pull.
I have him at SS (got lucky with a super early extra copy at 3 pity) and his sig at like 5 pity he's amazing and I don't regret pulling him even one bit, I already have bianca alter and excited for new Alpha started playing around a month before Bianca alter xd
All I know is that PGR is a total grind if the person is a F2P player like me..... :) Those damn black cards. Well, I'm Liv Empryea + Selena Cappricio + Vera Rozen main
lee is literally the reason why i started playing i started like 4 weeks ago im level 68 and i have him, his weapon, and currently grinding like hell for his CUB LOLL i even bought his skin i love the bloodborne-esque design 😭😭😭 guys… help
IDC what people say. Lee looks sick and he’s the only male Gen 2 attacker. But my Dark Team is the weakest team rn. Even with SS Luna and Tenebrion, it’s not enough lmao.
well, I mistakenly pulled for phoenix as a f2p so I couldn't get enough ressources to pull for empyrea. I won't repeat that mistake twice and gonna get her in wintry shackles selector this time, so i can confortably pull for the Best man in this God damn Game ❤ (sorry wanshi camu chrome I love you a looot too)
I'm just laughing at all the idiots saying they'll skip Lee because apparently they're saving for Uncle (even tho Uncle new frame releases in a year or so)
Easy, because I can't cope for a year and a half with Palefire. If CN/global gap wasn't too big, this kinda debates wouldn't even happen. Powercreep will always be there. PS: On the other hand, I kinda hope that a lot of ppl skips him ngl. More Hyperreal skips = less malding at WZ and PPC for me. 6:23 There is no "skip if" in PGR. You'll accumulate enough BC until CW after pulling Lee.
The skippers probably want to get extra copies of CW or pull for Bianca Alters coating. So they skip Lee to have extra BC for that. I'm not one of them. Hyperreal is my most anticipated character even above CW.
if global/CN gap wasnt big then you wouldnt even know what to save for in the first place lmao there is INDEED "skip if" in PGR, most people would want their favorite/main attacker to be at least SS3 with sig or above, and you'll only get enough for base S CW if you pull for lee
Imo skipping lee for a character that deals more dmg than him but doesnt release for a year+ is kinda wierd ngl, i aint gonna complain though, thanks for the easy warzone and pain cage brackets.
I messed up big time during Bianca's banner, was going for SSS but got busy and forgot... now she's one copy away and my limited banner pity is at 56/60. I'm getting at least one copy of Lee!
what if i become very dedicated and try to get hyperreal (i have empryea) then save up for the watanabe one for a few months idk but i love torturing myself so ill do that. (i may not even get him, my 130bc arent supporting me)
What people forget is we're playing global server even if he's worst, uncle wata would take time to release in global so you need him if you want your fireteam to be strong, you can use him for a long time before uncle release
I need him because he looks like Dimitri from fire emblem 3 houses and as well he got a voice from Dimitri's voice actor and still partly he is the reason I play this game but not just he I sort of like the battle music alot lol
@@GrayRavenRadio YEAH I'm having sm fun and cheating my way through phantom cage. Now I recently pulled for empryea I'm just waiting for watanabe AJBSHSDBHSGH
Want to know how to build Lee? Check out his page on GRAY RAVENS: grayravens.com/wiki/Lee:_Hyperreal
I SEE. A FOLLOW DEGEN XD KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK - REALLY LIKE UR VIDEOS
sorry to bother, would a SSS black rock shooter work as fire attacker later on if i have to skip Lee now? i only have empirea now
Looks like you have change the channels name
you said I need to rotate between other team members with lee, but after that u say I should get vera (who can just be replaced by SSS+ arclight and it wouldn't make a difference in gameplay as cw never swaps anyway) instead of liv. then who am I gonna be switching to, if not her?
@@volosateechlen You do need to swap Alpha.
Worst gen 2 attacker is like saying the poorest billionaire.
Perfect comment.
So true
billionaire but zimbabwe dollars
😂
I have him as SS and he can solo many bosses
Pull Lee to complete the roster of gray ravens
That’s it and end of discussion
Based.
I pulled because I am a collector.
I pull lee for 3 god lee team
@@Eruker MultLEEverse team, lol
@@Erukerbahaha me too, I even pulled Entropy last year to complete 3 Lee team
I'm pulling cuz I pull for all new frames of Gray Raven members
I'll be pulling Hyperreal not because he's meta or something... As a Lee fan, Three-Lee team is "a dream come true".
I like Lee too, I don't care people online are calling him fujo-bait and "hyperhomo", he's fun to play and he looks cool. Plus he makes me laugh whenever he says: "you're chance of survival has been reduced to zero"
It's also canon
@@roadbone1941 HYPERHOMO LMAOOOOOOOO
it's baffling to me that his first ult doesnt have timestop, but even ayla, a free amplifier, has timestop on the activation of her ult, which doesnt even do much damage. it's so strange they only put the timestop on his second ult, meanwhile everyone else got two (i think). maybe their idea was that they didnt want to break the fire team because, at the time of his release in CN, fire was the only team with 3 characters who had time stop, but idk... seems unfair. i will still pull him though
i heard that the playerbase itself in Lee's beta period called for the removal of one of his time stops KEWK
Kuro removed his timestop in his 1st ult because they feared he could break PPC.
Other gen 2 attackers are like: 1st ult->5-6s->2nd ult.
Hyperreal is like: 1st ult->0.5s->2nd ult.
According to the beta testers, that was way too broken so they took it off, it still sounds unfair tho, other attackers can ult 2s after with the right investiment, it sounds like bias towards Lee tbh
But like didnt they say and lee as well say that thus frame hasn't reached its full potential so wouldnt that mean he would probably get a new frame later on or nah because yh know the bias towards the male constructs
Once theres more 2nd gens i hope they patched it v.v
It's baffling to me that they're not giving every signature move timestop
"Hyperreal is bad"
His ult deals 4400% fire damage bro 😭😭😭
Yeah his ult is stronger than bianca
don't forget 2600%(x2 when use 4 signature memory) fire damage from another ult
and those numbers go up to 5147% and 3294%, but his damage is not why they call him bad. they do that because his ult isn't spammable like cw, lamia, balter n qu + has no time stop on his first ult
@@kantoravvImagine him getting a leap and he gets his ult be spammable
All other gen 2: 👀👀👀👀
I think Liv:Empyrea's ult can do 7000% damage if it's filled up fully
I don't care about the hates. All I need is a replacement for karerina (fire attacker).
Same,, im struggling with fire wz lol
my fire team : Liv EM as main dmg + healer . Nanami : Starfarer + pulse as sub dont have Katerina , let Lee sleep in peace
My fire team: Liv(S), Lee:palefire(SSS), and Sophia(because I don't have a fire tank)😬
Before hyperreal i used max leap palefire sss+ bc that was my only/best fire option. Now i use palefire with hyperreal so i can deal dmg when hyperreal is on cd.
yeah all i need was a replacement for hyperreal...
His design is the sole reason I went for him, and his damage is a massive plus as well. He doesn't need to be the best at damage imo but be great enough that I want to use him.
What really matters for me is a character's visual presentation and the consistency of design choices that allow for unique and fun gameplay.
Lee's definitely has some of the coolest animations in the game for me so that's my main reason for pulling him.
Watanabe may have outdps'ed him but Lee's gameplay drip is still top tier.
this is why i'm a changyu main
@@randomaccount3364 Changyuu main's will forever have my respect.
I hope that guy gets a new frame someday.
Same!!🔥
@@alibaig941not a new frame but his coating is lit. I hope he gets an S rank frame one day too.
I love the lightshow moveset where it gives epileptic seizures while looking cool as hell, I don't think any other character gives you as much of a dopamine dump as hyperreal does - maybe crimson weave
Most F2P players don’t even stand a chance in competing with the P2W players, so you’re someone like me who likes meta but is F2P and always have second doubts before pulling for a character. Just pull for Lee if you like him, if you play the game with the characters you don’t like then it will just feel like a chore. I say prioritise fun over meta if you don’t plan on spending. (You can also just pull for the other characters in the future and imo won’t take that long especially if you still have story to clear)
Exactly!
To the people skipping Lee: Thanks for making my Fire Warzone brackets easier!
(I know this joke shouldn't even exist but hey, it needed to be done kekw)
Also 1:21 🤣
You are welcome. I always get demoted in fire cycle so have pretty much given up on it lol.
nah people in even rexlent server kept saying this joke tho 😂
I know it's a meme but the brackets are dynamic so that you only compete against similar players.
As a new player, my teams are omega bricked anyway. It is self sabotage if one aspires to be efficient in gacha games.
We gonna crush those LEE-derboards with the Fire God 👌
It's heartening to see that there are still some Global Content Creators actively trying to clear up the misinformation surrounding Lee: Hyperreal. An alarming portion of the playerbase has definitely been baited by "Lee Skippable" agenda, so it's good that there are still some more objective, actually _explanatory_ sources of info regarding this weirdly divisive frame. 👍
Lee is still gonna be one of the best Fire attackers for a long, long while so he's still very much important.
And besides, if Live Empyrea got a Leap but Nanami got powercrept, who's to say that Lee won't get a LEEP (sorry) upgrade himself in the future?
So far, only Capricio that get so many buff in her skill from all the history of PGR character, and now she'll get her leap too after Teddy's patch...
I just hope that they'll also gives Lee this chance too, it seems like they feel reluctant to buff male character on this game, while always giving the best preferential treatment for female characters...
@@rafelt4147 Capriccio is getting a leap? Where did you get that info from?
@@gnuhgnauqneyugn he probably meant her previous leaps. Capriccio has gotten _two_ leaps now, another one in the future. Mostly QoL for her standard and ultimate orbs' targeting. The real buff is coming to Empyrea though. In Teddy's patch (after Ice Qu's) she's getting orb sorting, faster ultimate, more orbs during rotations, basically bringing her up to par with other modern gen 2 characters.
Which is why it's funny that she still remains a background character. You use Uncle like 70% of the time, Lee 30% of the time, and you maaaaybe switch to Empyrea in very niche situations, like when you already spent the orbs of both Lee and Uncle, there's 3 seconds left in Warzone, and Empyrea's available. Maybe. So yeah, don't skip Lee lol.
@@gnuhgnauqneyugn there's already a leak that shows a shadow of Capricio for the future patch, it means that there'll be a leap for her...
@@Sercotani Capricio never got any leap, the one that she got is buff, 3-4x before it finalized in No.21 or Noctis patch...
There's already a leak showing a shadow of Capricio frame in the daily punishing wave fp...
the fact that i have heard him be constantly called the "true fire god" made me think he was just crazy cool to begin with... then i read the story bits and i just had to grab him. any character that has time travel bullshit in their story done well is a character for me. seeing how they handled it actually had me on the edge of my seat. like seriously. how does a mobile game do this to me? anyways ty for coming to my ted talk
His gameplay, imo, is the coolest even among the newer characters, I love my boy Lee everytime he's in the story and definitely won't be skipping him
His playstyle and design are enough for me to pull for him.
Just the lore behind how OP he is story-wise is enough for me to pull for him. And his gameplay looks dope af!
Yeah lore-wise, he’s the strongest but just not in game. Kinda like current Alpha.
Agree. He's also cool af in general.
1:20
"Wait- how did that get into the script?"
I question that myself, GRR.
Either way, great videos and topics, as usual.
Keep it up.
*-Unknown Construct **_a_*
That’s only for they’re speculations and mine as well
For those that are going to skip him *(stay at the bottom of the leaderboard, makes things a lot easier for me)*
wdym bro they were already at the bottom from the start😂😊
Meh my liv can easily keep me in the middle ranks fk lee
lee fans when they realize WZ isnt just fire 😱
New player here! Even if I don't have any of the meta characters..
*he is one of the reason why I downloaded the game so-*
(tbh idk where had I been for the past 4 years, 😊This game got amazing stories- but at least Im not too late :'>)
He looks cool, he can snipe, his kits looks awesome, gameplay looks insane and i am sure the story is going to go hard. I mean what more can anyone ask for? I don't understand why people hate him, his design looks insane. I can't wait get him stand in the spotlight of my full fire team, emp and nanami. A Lee Finally can rest!
Even though he may be weaker than his other gen 2 attacker counterparts, I'd still pull for him anyways to reunite the Gray Raven squad.
I've got ALL the constructs and I've been a light spender, using the monthly and one of the battle passes. I have a bunch of cards saved so I'm GETTING the true firegod. I saw his frame in the live stream it was teased in and was one of the bois who LOVED him since the beginning. He's a homie and homies deserve respect.
This man, along with Lucia CW and Bianca Stigmata is what made me return to PGR after quitting for awhile lol. Absolutely fell inlove with his gameplay so of course I'm getting him
Lee is my fav since day 1 so even if Hyperreal hits like a wet noodle I'd have still rolled for him
Fortunately he hits like a truck! A good investment!
I don't even try to understand whose dmg does better than who. I only learn their tricks to play and figure out which i feel most comfortable to play with. And as someone who has balter, i didn't feel that. Thankfully, i felt that with Lee hyperreal. ❤
Spoiler alert:
Lee may be the weakest but in terms of lore, He is the only being who sides with humanity that was able to pass the trials of the tower and has the potential to reach the realm of god. Inside the tower, He is teh strongest being of humanity. The only beings that can beat him are ishmael and to an extent von neggut
Fun fact: He is the first and only pro-humanity ascendant
Lorewise ofc🗿
Only in tower......
He unlocked his inner Kirito
Do you w@eebs even know what God means?
He is the One that knew everything that would pass, every thought every single human would think(surprised or poking fun) during their lifetime, everything before even the first soul was made. He is Omnipotent, All Knowing, All Powerful, Omnipresent.
The waves, the wind, the soil, the mountains, the enemy's body all are a servant to it, only the soul has the choice to oppose.
If God is merely unamused, He doesn't even have to do anything, the winds will cut you, the soil will engulf you, your own body will neglect the commands of your soul sheerly out of the obedience & submission it has for it's Creator.
Stop saying godlike & literal God like the weebs you & your kind are.
You can't fathom who God is, someone whose existence Himself denies the basic rules of reality He Himself made, He is the creator of Space & Time & exists beyond Time. You can't fathom Him.
God's presence isn't even required to bring everything down to their knees, it's merely a "Be" & It is
Lorewise, and only works in tower
I don’t think he’s the worst he’s really amazing and shame on the ones who calls him the worst and useless I think he’s useful and amazing that’s why I’m getting him and also he’s coming back and so am I and I’m really at the pity to get him
He is the worst Gen 2 attacker by damage numbers, number of timestops, etc. That's objective, it's facts found not by opinion but by running calculations.
But he's still a Gen 2 attacker which means he's still incredibly strong, and still better than any other fire attacker that exists.
In any group, somebody has to be the weakest. That doesn't mean they're weak compared to everything else, only that they're weak compared to their group. It's like fighting the weakest black belt at any given dojo. He'll still kick your ass, he's just not as good as all the other black belts.
@@randomaccount3364 well you can on the being shamed at like the others
Fighting numbers and calculations? Fighting facts? Your chance of survival has been reduced to zero!
@randomaccount3364 i agree with you, but i still think one needs to be careful about just saying "yeah X is the worst one". 'Cause as we've seen with just HyperLee some people see that statement and read it is "oh, so X is bad". Now this is the fault of the latter for reading it as such but it tends to bleed over into the more innocent group who'll hear the second incorrect statement and believe it.
@@sillydo1344 lee isnt bad as a fire attacker (technically he is now because of lucia but YEAH), hes bad when used on element neutral bosses
idc about lee being the weakest I just want a badass attacker for my fire team
Randos: I think you should skip Lee
Me: I think you should skip life
If you're starting today, you still have enough time to SSS+ chrome arclight, doing so allows him to do 30% shred which is honestly great for an A rank, so if you're missing empy, and garnet, this is something you should consider.
My glorious son will continue to be the meta fire team attacker for 1 year Atleast
He and Watanabe will be brothers in arms, not enemies
Also kuro please give him two time stops and a leap so he can compete with the other attackers
You mean *our* son?
replaced, wallahi
@@quasogod
Still slightly more than 1 year
I'm definitely rolling for him and his signature weapon since it will make fire WZ about 5x more enjoyable than using Pulse to stall for Empyrea and Starfarer.
If Hestia somehow appears in my weapon banner rolls, it is perfectly fine.
It feels weird to still call him hyperreal, I'm so used to getting attached to the name just for it to change.
Say hello to Capricio then
Lee's name won't change, it's still Hyperreal
? His name in global is still hypereal, you can check it at the global trailer
I know his name isn't changing, that's what the post is about
i feel the same way. was fully expecting his name to be Hyperion or something. is this the first time a global construct kept their CN name?
I love his design and kit. Lee will still be like the best for 10 months. From here on out all those gen 2 attackers I will be rolling them, SSS here we go. Thanks for the lovely guide!
I just rematched a whole bunch of your videos this morning wanting more and you uploaded one today im crying thank you queen 😭
I sacrificed over 2 years of gaming to not follow the meta fire (skipped Nier team, skipped Palefire leap, my Ember is only S, no hypertune) and now I don't intend to suffer for another 10 months: with Hyperreal, I finally complete the real fire team!
I went for him because I love his story (no details because spoilers!). But he still is to this day one of my favourites to play (in JP server)
Takeaway: We need more of the Lee x Watanabe agenda.
Ngl, you’d pull Lee hyperreal for the style, and that’s 100% all valid
And let’s not forget, being the worst of the best, STILL MEANS you’re among the best
they said I couldnt pull hyperleeal because of the BC drain.
they said it'd take 15k BC.
It only took 5k.
and hey now I actually have a decent fireteam member!
1 other important factor is enjoyment. If you enjoy playing him and love his design then its also very worth :)
i've always thought that pgr is about expanding rosters and main dps = whose play style you enjoy the most so when i see ppl keep commenting "skip hyperreal" i was like "??? okay then have fun malding with gen 1 attackers ig 😭"
i really don't understand their problem but oh well, they can skip and mald while my fire wz scores are at an all-time high
i wanna pull for him no matter what, he's my favorite attacker and his gameplays is godlike, i hate people say that is useless, fuck it i wanna love him with my life and play with him, empyria and nanami for a long time :3
Please post more videos i've been checking your account everyday because i cant find any better pgr content creator
My mind has changed when I pulled him for 30 rolls and he comes to me. Also got his sig weapon in 17 rolls and now I’m still grinding for more 5 rolls to reach his CUB. First time I got him, I exchanged 4 Turing and 2 Cottie and he can solo Fire Warzone to reached 800k points with only 3 lv.45 Turing. That’s too far from my S chainsaw Nanami. It comes from 386k to 800k easily and I see this is a big W for me even he is the worst gen 2.
Nanami Starfarer is the worst Gen 2.
@@vost2916 she isnt even gen 2
gen 2 is determined by SS3, so technically scire is the first gen 2 (no, liv, selena and nanamech arent)
I've been waiting almost a year for him solely because I love his playstyle. Time warping shenanigans got me sold 👌
You ever just imagine that what if this video was made because Murray was holding them at gunpoint 🙂
Ah, so this is why Empyrea showed up on the Arrival Construct banner, which goes a week into Lee's release. This is some really strong bait for someone like me who really only has an ice team from starting a couple weeks ago. Looks like I'll just sit until Feb for the Alpha/Vira-Garnet combo. I think I risk too much dumping my BCs into trying to get both Empyrea and Lee
Yep for new player better get one element teams first and for you its alpha
I think you can replace Vera Garnet with Chrome Arclight with little difference since they both act as QTE bots. That way, you can get Hyperreal now, and use the CW selector to get Empyrea. Empyrea is essential sub-dps for fire team, Garnet is non-essential QTE shred that can be replaced by Arclight pretty much indefinitely until you get Garnet.
Empyrea will be free in CW patch!!!
@@ayatoayagi1278 when is Lee getting a rerun?
@@randomaccount3364 vera has leap now so not really just qte bots
Lee is such a fun character to play.Imo He probably has 2nd most fun gameplay among gen 2 behind Alisa after trying him in Taiwan server. I just love character with guns so I'm hyped for him.
I am pulling for him just to complete the Lee trio.
He is also good with 5* wep at ss.
Me who is gonna invest everything into Lee just to piss off some people who get angry when you are having fun instead of going full meta
Plus my man is cool af and part of Gray Raven. Anything for him *pulls out wallet*
As a dedicated Lee fan, since the very start of global, who is maxing out his original version to the best of my abilities as an f2p, i will love and cherish Hyperreal no matter what people think about him. Let me have fun with my favourite character who was in oblivion for 2(?) years.
I might even lose my f2p status in pgr, cause i want to SSS him on his first banner.
Is he even really that weak if all the content in the game is kind of either catered to specific elements/conditions or is just not so hard that you would care if the character is overpowered? Like - you'll never see Bianca outdamage Lee in a fire Warzone/PPC (unless she's hyperinvested ig) and you probably won't care if he's overpowered or not in any rogue-like modes (For example. You can put any other event mode here too). I guess maybe the only exception is Babel but 1 - it's not even around that long; and 2 - you don't even actually need to get that high of a level to get all the ACTUAL rewards.
Not saying that the video is bad or that the information is useless because it's still good to know how units stack up against each other but I just personally feel like any new character is worth pulling, especially if you're a new player, because all new units end up stronger than whatever they're replacing + the game gives you enough BC to get all new characters so there's literally no excuse... ASSUMING THAT WE'RE BEING OBJECTIVE OF COURSE lul. If someone wants a weapon, cub or gacha skin for someone else which is, again, OBJECTIVELY SPEAKING not optimal as a F2P but I get liking certain characters to want to invest more into them, then I can understand skipping someone for the sake of that but any other reason I just don't get.
Anyways, the video is still a banger. Thank you for always bringing us all the info on our favorite game ❤
1:24 😂😂😂
also i want to skip because i want bianca snow petal coating in alpha lightning patch. even thought i have liv and nanami, lee A sss+ full leap is enough for me until watanabe come. sorry hyperreal 😢
also a question please, did alpha lightning have free coating (blueprints) in store? currently have zero blueprints after buying palefire coating 😂
Unfortunately, Alpha (Crimson Weave version) does NOT have any free blueprint coatings yet.
@@GrayRavenRadio idk to feel happy or sad 😂
I just pulled and i have to say having a lee team has always been my dream
I pull for his main screen rizz and snipery bang bangs (I also pulled Wanshi for his snipery bang) XD
Who needs meta when you gave up on fighting Warzone Lords already?
5:08 is it possible for players that are not new be able to select or no?
All players can obtain the free S-Rank selector in Wintry Shackles!
@@GrayRavenRadio Omg thanks for the info!
Can't wait for this guy to finally show up🔥
Already got Nanamech, I'm gonna get Empyrea from the S rank selector later
Thank GRR for clearing my thoughts!
I'm a new player and just started, so I was thinking skiping Lee because I played Honkai Impact 3 before and it was important there to have at least 1 full team so you can bruteforce content and I don't have any good fire units now, so I was really suprised when people said I should NEVER skip Lee. But I got Garnet from my 40 pity and budget Dark team to help me clear content and waiting for Crimson and Lamia (my beloved), so I'm gonna save my funds c:
Never skip Lee. He is one of the few units who can brute force content without his specific element team. Him and Alpha Crimson Weave are the only two coming out soon that can run fine with out-of-team characters and still be meta.
@@TheBoltMaster456 I'm not so familiar with this game and how stages works. Does one Lee works better then full invested team of other element on fire specific stages?
@@semechka6407 yeah this Lee is just that good, he can hypercarry without Nanami Starfarer or Liv Empyrea and still do better than the old fire meta team(Nanami Pulse, Karenina Ember and Lee Palefire/Sophia). You can run Lee Hyperreal + Ayla Brilliance/Rosetta Rigor with 4 shakespear/2 gloria memory set + any A rank support unit/SSS amplifier unit. And that can substitute for the lack of either of the fire tank Nanamis(pulse and starfarer) and for the lack of Liv Empyrea, until you can get them at least.
If you get Lee now, you won't get full fire team but you will get half op fire team because you can get Empyrea for free in CW patch.
@@TheBoltMaster456 ironic considering hes the first one to get replaced, the only one who cant spam ult and the only one who actually CANT solo at all LMFAOOO
Idc with the current meta situation I'm getting hyperreal cuz he's cool
One more thing people overlooked is that Lee Hyperreal has the highest chance of survivability. Thanks to his Hypermatrix.
But I'm pretty sure someday he will back as Top fire meta once he get a leap skill. Unless Kuro decided to create another Lee and Liv frame to pare with Lucia for some unknown new type of element since we recently got a new element time, Void, for Luna.
i don't care if his dps isn't the best he is still best bro of the year.
Good video, new sub, I'm a new player, and I've been thinking about shooting, I want Lucia's team, but my scores in war zone are affected since I don't have a good fire attacker.
fuck meta, i love his gameplay
dont hv nanamech but fuck nanamech, i will pull my boyfriend
You should make a video about who of the upcoming characters to prioritize to SS with paincage skulls, since it is not posible to get the needed skulls for every new S rank in its debut.
I think a lot of people get this misleading impression of PGR ever since it released in Global and that is following the "who to roll for" guides exactly as how they do it in games like Genshin or Arknights. In Genshin, when people say that a new 5 star character powercreeps an older equally good 5 star character of the same element due to certain mechanics, that is fine to listen to, because even if you're a new player, if you make an account the moment the new character was released, you can roll for them. Same with arknights, if the CN server get new characters, it doesn't really matter because Arknights is a strategy game and its gameplay doesn't revolve on a single character hypercarrying content. Even when Surtr or Thorns was released during their golden ages, people didn't just put them down on their own to win stages, but their existence made everything easier. The same cannot be said with PGR. When a new character releases in PGR and people say it completely powercreeps this or that character, it doesn't matter. You won't be getting that character's patch until a whole ass year. The question you should be asking would be, are you still going to be playing AFTER 1 year? If yes, then feel free to skip certain characters even if its not recommended to do so. Lastly, as you said in the video, you need multiple teams in this game, for what reason should you really really skip excellent characters?
noooo!!! i had no plans to pull him!!! I was totally gonna skip Lee, now im convinced i gotta have him lol
Love this video, but disagree on the last bit. I think Empyrea is definitely the best choice from the selector in CW's patch since Garnet is essentially just a QTE bot anyways once Crimson Weave is released, so you can make do with Arclight (who is an A-rank too, so you can farm for his shards). All Garnet will do is provide a bit of extra resistance shred anyways. Empyrea on the other hand is definitely a more crucial upgrade to the fire team than Garnet is to the lightning team. Players who want to even remotely be meta should definitely pull for him and then use the selector to get Empyrea, then substituting another tank for resistance shred if they don't have Starfarer. Plus, Hyperreal and Watanabe are really perfectly made for each other; they rotate really well into one another, so yeah, Hyperreal is definitely a must-have and must-pull.
some Number's Nerd:NO IM NOT PULLING FOR HYPERREAL ITS blah blah blah
Cool dude with cool skill and playstyle:Haha Time goes 'ZA WARUDO'
I mean, I'm a relatively new player and i've already got him, plus he looks cool.
I have him at SS (got lucky with a super early extra copy at 3 pity) and his sig at like 5 pity
he's amazing and I don't regret pulling him even one bit, I already have bianca alter and excited for new Alpha
started playing around a month before Bianca alter xd
but but !! how are you going to cease your exsistance at the end of time if you don t pull him !!!!!
DMG? He looks cool and moves like a badass. It's enough for me to pull for him.
i play characters bcos they look cool (def pulling fire tank uncle)
I love your voice so much Lina T_T thank you for the contents
All I know is that PGR is a total grind if the person is a F2P player like me..... :) Those damn black cards. Well, I'm Liv Empryea + Selena Cappricio + Vera Rozen main
lee is literally the reason why i started playing i started like 4 weeks ago im level 68 and i have him, his weapon, and currently grinding like hell for his CUB LOLL i even bought his skin i love the bloodborne-esque design 😭😭😭 guys… help
oh nah i literally just got to the part where u said bloodborne-esque that was a coincidence 😨
Bc lees the chad I mostly like lee as a character more than how useful he is in gameplay plus he’s super cool
IDC what people say. Lee looks sick and he’s the only male Gen 2 attacker.
But my Dark Team is the weakest team rn. Even with SS Luna and Tenebrion, it’s not enough lmao.
Bruh, I am still pulling for him. Lee is so cool in that construct frame. 🥺
Great! He's not only a great character but also a great investment.
Idc I’ll do it for lee my love
I mean, if he's fun to play that's enough for me to pull.
well, I mistakenly pulled for phoenix as a f2p so I couldn't get enough ressources to pull for empyrea.
I won't repeat that mistake twice and gonna get her in wintry shackles selector this time, so i can confortably pull for the Best man in this God damn Game ❤
(sorry wanshi camu chrome I love you a looot too)
Phoenix is a really good upgrade for vera and she remains relevant for a long time so no worries
nice video! i just pulled him recently from a rate-up, even if i only have empyrea and not starfarer. i just wanted to change my fire dps gameplay 😂
I've been waiting for such a long time to pull for him, no matter what people say there's no way I'm skipping him.
I'm just laughing at all the idiots saying they'll skip Lee because apparently they're saving for Uncle (even tho Uncle new frame releases in a year or so)
lee got replaced now so whos laughing? 😭
Easy, because I can't cope for a year and a half with Palefire. If CN/global gap wasn't too big, this kinda debates wouldn't even happen. Powercreep will always be there.
PS: On the other hand, I kinda hope that a lot of ppl skips him ngl. More Hyperreal skips = less malding at WZ and PPC for me.
6:23 There is no "skip if" in PGR. You'll accumulate enough BC until CW after pulling Lee.
The skippers probably want to get extra copies of CW or pull for Bianca Alters coating. So they skip Lee to have extra BC for that. I'm not one of them. Hyperreal is my most anticipated character even above CW.
if global/CN gap wasnt big then you wouldnt even know what to save for in the first place lmao
there is INDEED "skip if" in PGR, most people would want their favorite/main attacker to be at least SS3 with sig or above, and you'll only get enough for base S CW if you pull for lee
bro was cute and i pull everyone that i see cute end of discussion
Imo skipping lee for a character that deals more dmg than him but doesnt release for a year+ is kinda wierd ngl, i aint gonna complain though, thanks for the easy warzone and pain cage brackets.
I have a feeling most people will still skip Watanabe anyway, because of Qu. Makes fire WZ/Fire PPC easier, like you said.
people skip him for CW which is 2 months after him, wdym?
I messed up big time during Bianca's banner, was going for SSS but got busy and forgot... now she's one copy away and my limited banner pity is at 56/60. I'm getting at least one copy of Lee!
what if i become very dedicated and try to get hyperreal (i have empryea) then save up for the watanabe one for a few months
idk but i love torturing myself so ill do that. (i may not even get him, my 130bc arent supporting me)
but i also started playing just for hyperreal so if i dont get him i shall cry
If you play daily, you should be able to afford Hyperreal before his banner ends. I believe in you!
Meanwhile I am here still didnt build Bianca, pulling just to get my son home
What people forget is we're playing global server even if he's worst, uncle wata would take time to release in global so you need him if you want your fireteam to be strong, you can use him for a long time before uncle release
I need him because he looks like Dimitri from fire emblem 3 houses and as well he got a voice from Dimitri's voice actor and still partly he is the reason I play this game but not just he I sort of like the battle music alot lol
Me who accidently got him in the base A construct banner after I reached the guaranteed S count of /60-
He's a good one to accidentally get! Congrats!
@@GrayRavenRadio YEAH I'm having sm fun and cheating my way through phantom cage. Now I recently pulled for empryea I'm just waiting for watanabe AJBSHSDBHSGH
Pulled this because I love Lee and have all his forms #truelove
Appreciate the uploads y’all always make. This was a great video as always.
Thank you for weighing in with your opinion on the "Skip Lee" wierdness!
"Lets beyblade" Had me rolling