Comparativo: Ducati Diavel x Triumph Rocket III x Harley-Davidson V-Rod
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- Опубліковано 6 тра 2013
- Vídeo produzido por Duas Rodas mostra o comparativo entre Ducati Diavel, Triumph Rocket III e Harley-Davidson Night Rod, três monstros numa disputa de força e cilindrada na pista de arrancada. Confira o teste completo em Duas Rodas de maio/2013.
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Eu não faço melhor, mas sem derrapar os resultados teriam sido mais realistas com o torque de cada uma. Ponto!
vi outro comparativo da duas rodas entre a Rocket nova e a h2r os tempos nós 201 da vontade de chorar 7.5 e tempo de 600cc na mão de quem sabe largar de vdd!!
He spent more time burning rubber than accelerating
+Hurbert Iggons Brazilians are just like this. Fuckin' show offs. *Brazilian here*
ohhhhh
+Hurbert Iggons That was the intention, I guess.
yeah, but those bikes could have had better times
Hurbert Iggons certainly.
Leandro, você é super bacana e seus testes estão evoluindo como as motos!
A Ducati é um estilo um pouco diferente das outras duas... Não foi justa a comparação... Senti uma tendência para a Ducati vencer, mas foi boa a matéria.
na verdade são todas muscle bikes e drag racers, apesar dessa categoria ser abrangente (entre eixos longo, posição de pilotagem mais para custom - em geral com comando avançado - motores grandes e pneus enormes...). Todas são feitas para acelerar em linha reta. Mas em estilo a VRod e a Rocket puxam muito mais para custom e a Diavel é muito mais esportiva. Disparada, a mais feia das três (para mim), mas com certeza a com melhor desempenho em retas E curvas.
La ducati es un estilo un poco diferente a otras das... No fue justa la comparación
Senti una una tendencia para la ducati vencer, mas fue boa a materia
@@rgiublin todas las muscle bikes e drah racers a pesar de ser de esa categoria (motores grandes)
Para acelerar en linea recta. Mas al estilo Vrod y la rocket
muito bom o vídeo, o layout do vídeo foi o melhor que vcs ja produziram
I have a V-rod. I am very happy with its style and performance.
Thanks for this video. I dont speak that language but i enjoyed the launch footage of all 3 bikes. Hope to see more videos like this of other bikes.
Não se compara arrancada fritando os pneus desse jeito, Leandro
Was there a point? I think I missed it between all the tire-slippage and poorly-timed shifts...
did he warm them up first[tyres]?
Da pra ver a Ducati Diavel cantando pneu de primeira e segunda marcha enquanto as outras só de primeira. Essa sim é um sonho de consumo.
Canal 2 Rodas esta prescisando fazer um comparativo da Yamaha TTR230 x CRF230 não achão?
Legal esse formato, deveriam fazer mais isso, é o que o povo gosta de ver, de preferência uma foto lado a outra. Seria top ve uma dia ele contra uma MT09 ou uma S100rr e por assim vai
Muy bueno, sigan asi, saludos de un lector desde Uruguay.
MUITO BOM VÍDEO.
Man I don't even ride and I can see that test didn't prove much. Tires spinning all over the place? How can you compare bikes this way?
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Essa Rocket 3 é o modelo antigo e só tem 2300 CC e 148 CV, quero ver a Ducati bater a nova Rocket que tem 2500 CC e 187 CV.
Da para andar com a Rocket no transito ( corredor )? Vi na especificacoes dela que sao 97 centimetros de largura 😳
A minha tem 1200 cc vou na HR com QQ uma Rocket 3
I own a vrod muscle wouldn't trade it for any other bike in this comparison, my opinion most reliable and a bulletproof motor!!!!!
Where is the 1700 Vmax?
theincredibledorian yeah, it would kick ass to all these three kids
im more than happy with my own Rocket 3
Touring by the way !!
Michael Holmes its a much better touring bike than both of those. that's for aure
I feel like I'm with most other people here. Correct me if im wrong, but the Rocket III has the largest and one of the most powerful engines on the planet. it gets a shitty start and dosnt almost seems to slow down once it takes off
+edojh96 The rocket has a fairly soft engine actually, and from memory makes something like 140 hp at rear wheel, but a ton of torque. But its also weighs a staggering amount, so its really not that fast when compared with sports bikes, or even models like the V Max, B King etc.....A bike like the BMW 1000 sports for comparison makes almost 190 rwp and weighs 450 pounds wet. That's about 350 pounds less than a Rocket, so its not even close.
The Rocket motor is so de-tuned it's not funny. With just bolt on goodies and no internal work it is possible to get over 300hp out of one of these bikes. Still, they are not for the faint-hearted and I am not complaining about mine. I'll ride any bike and two wheels and a motor is just awesome I say.
This was just part of comparision... You have to buy the brazilian magazine (DUAS RODAS) to read the full story. I would guess that in other fields the winner could be different
Cara, essa diavel é espetacular 😍😍😍
Faltou a que falaram no inicio. V-max e seu V4 de 200cv. A Diavel perde sem duvida. O problema é o preço. Uma V-max custa 100mil no Brasil. Um absurdo!
auguem pode me dizer o consumo da rocket 3?
Muito bom gostei mais eu queria com a triumph rocket 3 2020 aí sim queria saber quem ia vencer
its a shame that rider was a noobie
Muito bom, gostei!
Why didn't they use the traction control on the ducati?
two wheel runs in same speed , so we dont worry about the skid when we give full trottle in first gear
two wheel runs in same speed , so we dont worry about the skid when we give full trottle in first gear
two wheel runs in same speed , so we dont worry about the skid when we give full trottle in first gear
if you are trying to compare bikes, you usually dont let the back wheel spin until it gets traction. the Diavel only won because it got traction..... i wonder if this guy favors Ducatti -_-
Thomahawk, WHAT?,,,You said,..
you usually dont let the back wheel spin until it gets traction.
So he let the back wheel spin, BEFORE he got traction?
Traction means tire grip, adhesion, when a car gets traction that implys it had NO traction
initially in order to GET traction, if it had traction it would not spin
So how do you make a tire spin AFTER IT HAS TRACTION?
you usually dont let the back wheel spin until it gets traction
vehicles at the drag races spin at take off if they are going to spin anyplace!
what i mean is they didn't let the back tire hook up. all they did was drop the clutch and let it spin until it finally hooked up. I understand what fucking traction is and people at drag races dont "spin at takeoff", they burnout before they race to heat up their tires
letting your tires spin at the start of a race is how you lose the race
Thomahawk You're exactly right.This was a dumb way to compare bike.
Thomahawk plus the Ducati has launch control and I think the triumph and Harley don't.
Vcs são de onde
Excelente!
A diavel é um absurdo. Mas customizada, prefiro a Harley!
Quem fala acha que é facil andar nesses motos e sair arrancando, parabens ao Leandro Mello, esse sim pode falar, pois ele entende do assunto.
Isso é um tiro,de ganhão, cê é louco mano , 👊👊👊
We want to see comparison with Indian FTR 1200 please
show de bola
Qual Top speed dá 2300
so much wheel spin. Who are these guys testing the bikes?
Bogdan Tita
and short shifting!
+Bogdan Tita They are specialists from a motorcycle magazine in Brazil, "Duas rodas" means "two wheels"
Bogdan Tita it's quite easy
''especialists''
They must have spilled Spanish olive oil on the track while eating their lunch.
Que teste BIZARRO! Sair borrachando desse jeito para comparar tempo? Brincadeira né
Pois é pensei a mesma coisa... a moto com mais torque saiu muito... isso gastou muito tempo...
Eu pensei que a Rocket ia levar por causa do torque monstro, mas ela perdeu muito tempo sambando no início até estabilizar
é mais um "teste" disfarçado, o negocio era só dar borrachao msm, afinal 2500cc com torque pra puxar um caminhão, a graça é arrancar com ela, ngm compra uma moto dessas pensando em velocidade
O cara é jaspeiro. Sabe nada de Cruiser. Quem sobe numa HD de macacão Alpinestar?
O cara saiu divertindo sem controle d igual pra igual c colocar o controle da diavel pula ainda mais
what about price comparsion, think you will find the rocket the best value for money
It's must be the Honda Valkyrie not the V-rod, right ???
Mas e a Vmax kd???
outra categoria kkkk
Mas cade a yahama vmax 1700 para este comparativos
Pista de Arrancada de Saltinho-SP... hahah SHOW!
What absolute beasts. All three, any three over a sports bike, any day. Throw in V-Max and stir then go riding in a pack. I'll tag behind on my Valk.
+Fletcher DeMaine vmax all day long lol my buddy has a rocket III roadster, balls to the walls but so damn heavy
My '99 Valk couldn't keep up with that power group, today's bikes have more horsepower than the Valk made 20 years ago. Horsepower is on order now but the Valk is so smooth yet powerful for its time but I still love this bike.
@@boreed5734 Mine's a 2014 Valk. I'd call it dignified horsepower and probably handles as well as the Duke. A damn fine filly, she is.
O controle de tração eletronico da Diavel não deveria impedir de sair cantando pneu?
Impede c tiver ligado a minha fica no nível 1
Esses trancos de força do torque é uma delícia!
Badly run test. All that wheelspin proves nothing. Meaningless result.
Hey now.. I myself like to know my bike has a nice wheel-spinning sound before buying it
Dale Strickland-Cla
Why don't you just drive a car, mate. You're obviously not that into motorcycles, just into the numbers. What are you, an accountant?
Those R3's will take just about anything with a pro rider, who is not me.
I did 7.74 with my Rocket III 2009.
The triumph have basically a car engine lol
True, and still not quicker than the Diavel...
Ted Bundy they are a totally different Segment , right?
I guess so as the Triumph is a cruiser & the Diavel, mmm not too sure how you would class it.
Ted Bundy some People call it a muscle bike
Yamaha Vmax is a muscle bike. Triumph not so much... maybe a cruiser is the best name to call it.
Estou aguardando a chegada da Ducati XDiavel Cruiser em Curitiba, vai ser minha com certeza Rosa de Curitiba
my friends just part chopped his rocket 3 roadster for the new diavel carbon ....... and he hates it !! got to try and get his rocket back monday morning off dealer ... good luck with that!!
I love my diavel carbon love the sounds but had to sell it for my house now I naught a vrod and I love it damn what a good sound
No audio...
Faz com os modelos 2020!
muito massa
BTW I dont know about the others but the diavel has launch control
Could I get this in english,American please!!!!!!!
a Ducati diavel tem no Brazil?
Wanderson Vinicios tem sim mano
Obrigado mano
lobomalvado25 valeu ai mano por responder, eu vi a nova diavel e não achei muito bonita eu tbm prefiro a
Mais velha.
Uauuuu
Nem esticou direito a 2º marcha da rocket III meteu a 3º muito antes do tempo.
I have the 2005 rocket 3 but the Ducati is a real beast, the rocket is 300lbs heavier although the r3 is 2300cc, in reality all three motorcycles are fast as shit.
ADOREI O VIDEO MAIS O AUDIO D VCS É MUITO BAIXO POR FAVOR MELHOREM ISSO
Concordo com o companheiro também não gosto da Harley, a Ducati veio para fazer a diferença neste estilo estou acompanhando todos os teste da Diavel.,inclusive estive no salão Duas rodas onde andei e ja me defini na Diavel para a compra.
I can tell you right now I have outran many of V rods on my rocket 3
Faltou a Yamaha V-MAX 1800 : aí a briga estaria completa ! Claro, com a V-Max vencendo fácil !!!
Ducati diavel não perde pra ngm em arrancada! Moto mais rápida do mundo no quesito arrancada!
Drag racing up a hill ?
I don't know how I got this clip but I only speak and understand English and I'm sorry. The visuals told a lot.
This is a challenge made by Duas rodas (Two wheels magazine). The contenders are evaluated by time to reach faster a half quarter mile. The Ducatti bike wins flawless because it is lighter, powerfull and have better eletronic assistance. Leandro Melo is the pilot who did the test.
Wow
realmente exprimiste esos motores
3 Monstros so falto a YAMAHA V-Max... ;/
tambem queria ver a vmax..acho q ganharia..
I'm not so sure about Rocket III coming second... The amount of sheer power Triumph has it's just crazy and from what I can see the rider lost some time pulling his shit together before he actually rocketed towards the 200m mark. Would I ever ride a Rocket III? No! It's obscenely powerful and hence a business class ticket straight to the cemetery...
+GorillaProduction38 It has 20 horse power less then the Diavel and weighs almost 100kg more. How can you not be sure of it coming second?
Pacer357 If your figures are correct you're right, I've never checked really, but if if learned something in all these years is that sometimes the rider/driver is the most important part of the equation. Besides that, the Triumph rider obviously had lost some time comparing to the other one. Anyfuck, I don't mind, I ride two not so much of a rocket bikes because usually with such monsters you add something extra to the certainty of your divorce: sudden death.
GorillaProduction38 I agree that the rider was far from experienced, actually the Ducati rider botched it quite bad as well. And right you are, only very experienced riders can come close to optimal times in these monsters.
+Pacer357 HP? yes it has less. Torque? The Rocket III is on another fucking planet.
Yes the Rocket has more torque, 200 compared to 150 for the Diavel, still the Diavel weighs 210kg compared to 300 kg. That's 90 kg difference, or in motorbike terms a fuckload more.
Por que no usaron el control de tracción en la Ducati ... seria mas rápida aún
+Carlitox b that is not spanish, is portuguese, from brazil, seu jumento
CARAAAIO... muito loooko.. pena que sao MUUUITO caras aqui
Rocket 3 2.5 ganha a ducati te pagou quanto
Diavel custon ou naked?
e uma moto unca
Naked
Custom.... mas meio naked... kkk melhor dizer que é um dragster !
Rafael C. Não, ela é naked msm.
Amo muito aPanigale, msa
what did he just say?
ducati every time speedly
A Vmax que inspirou essas máquinas?
A Harley davidson tá ai a bem mais tempo e eles criaram a V-ROD
Com uma cara mais moderna para o público mais jovem.
Eita porra
os caras nem sabem sair direito com a moto, so arrancou melhor com a ducati
Maluco frito 5s com a harley, aí N
Sim, e trocou as marchas com a Triumph como se estivesse passeando
Good👍👍
2300cc WTF como que anda nun treco desse ?
Ducati Diavel gostei só ñ tenho a grana pra compra-la
In real life there are curves and bends, try to that test on a racing circuit.
Deve ser muito loco pilotar a Rocket! dúvida cruel...
Em termos de estilo, gostei mais da Ducati...
The rocket 3 up to 150kms will eat any bike 2.3L from 3cylinders absolute beast hope one day they make a speed triple or Daytona with the engine will be the fastest bike in the world hands down if they could make it work
I have seen other videos and the Ducati is quicker but it’s also less weight than the Triumph.
Ducati Diavel, acho bem bonita, em segundo a Rocket III e em terceiro a Harley, podem me criticar a vontade mas eu não gosto dos estilos das Harley´s e tenho certeza que não sou o único.
Second gear launch on the Rocket would have made a difference to the time. There is nothing like a Rocket.
+Ross Delaney The Diavel is in another league. I can agree it's nothing like a rocket, it weighs a lot less and has more power. Sure the Rocket has more torque but it weighs almost 100 kg more. I have driven them both and that Diavel made me rethink how a bike should ride, it's a master piece.
I cannot comment on the Diavel. I have 3 x Rockets so I think I know what a 2nd gear take off done well would have done to this so called comparison.
Rocket can't keep up, regardless of what gear you take off in. Unless it's a carpenter. In which case, not really a rocket anymore.
fattymcgee123 Not sure I agree with that. The Diavel and Rocket are very closely matched bikes.
Dick Johnson Well, the Rocket has about 280lbs on the Diavel, so cornering is out of the question. The weight doesn't help much with acceleration, and being down 13hp (stock diavel vs stock roadster, a little more or less depending on the dyno you look at) isn't in the Rocket's favour. RPM much higher on the Diavel, too.
Best figure I can find put the Rocket at a high 11 quarter and the Diavel at a low 10 with a much higher trap speed. If you're talking Carpenter, that's a different story.
Na duvida, acelera. Também concordo com vc eu não gosto do estilo das harley davison.
AInda nem vi o vídeo mas já me fico pela Diavel, vamos ver se mudo de opinião
A Triumph me agrada mais pois é uma marca mais exclusiva, Harley é mais conhecida coisa e tal.
Tô tentando entender como vc conseguiu sair fritando, do 1 ao 8 no controle de tração eu ando no 1 mais seguro! Fui botar no 4 e dei uma catucada a moto subiu, me jogou pra trás e olha que eu sou pesado e segurei a moto como pude, mas não dá é muita potência! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Tenho a VROD Muscle!!!!💪💪💪💪🔥🔥🔥🔥
Leandro Mello, cadê a Vmax nova ? E vê se não sai queimando borracha que vem tempo melhor !!!! kkkkk
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I'm calling bullsh*t he's not even close to giving the Rocket all of it power
It's not a matter of raw horsepower; hp is good for reaching extra top speed, but accelleration is gained through close-ratiod gears, low weight, high torque and traction; even though the Ducati Diavel was the only one to squeal the tyres in 1st AND 2nd gear, it was also the only one to keep a straight(er) line. It is also much lighter than the other two. I don't think they cheated, Brazil does not manufacture motorcycles.
I just meant the guy absolutely could not handle the motorcycle the triumph
If you listen carefully you'll see that he was not even close to full throttle
Rollerr Walker A total crap launch and he short shifted it. I want to see this test again with a better rider and a better surface.
Rollerr Walker There's bias, always, and when you're comfortable riding on bike vs. another, the bias will win.