Armored Core 3 - Artificial Sky I

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  • @Alice.Carol.
    @Alice.Carol. 8 місяців тому +14

    初めてプレイしたのがこの3なので、6が出た今でもアーマードコアと聞くと真っ先にこの曲が出てきちゃう

  • @harryunderwood9387
    @harryunderwood9387 5 років тому +93

    First AC game I ever played. Used a mobility loadout with lock-on missiles and Assault Rifles as a focus. Don't think I was very good (was 11), but still enjoyed the hell out of it, and was actually stunned when Huntress revealed her true colours. A small moment, but it really taught me to think about the situation more seriously and was still remembered by me years later.

    • @mr.birdie1406
      @mr.birdie1406 Рік тому +22

      I see you were taught the dangers of simping. Armored Core a guide to self actualization.

    • @Technicallyaddicted
      @Technicallyaddicted Рік тому +8

      I was 14 when this game came into my possession. Quit playing final fantasy 11 for it. I started out with energy weapons and watched my energy gauge more than my health bar. About halfway through the game a build like this won’t complete a sortie, but by then I was so rich from not having to pay for ammunition that whole time that I could buy whatever mech I wanted. 8500 ap, an energy tank that never quit twin lock-on missiles max 2x12 and cannons in both arms. I was unstoppable even with a slow ac. From what I’ve seen AC6 is better in every way but I can’t play it because I don’t have a PC.

    • @danieleironerodejo9567
      @danieleironerodejo9567 4 місяці тому

      Just new to tha AC franchise and Armored Core 3 (portable)was my first game. Its supposed to be my bro who's playing this as he requested me to look for this game but I ended up enjoying it. And as time passed by being a Raven, I too was surprised when I realised they betrayed us. Poor them, they didn't stood a chance against a tank with loads of weapons with strong firepower.

  • @さすらいのななし
    @さすらいのななし 2 роки тому +33

    AC3って音の使い方が温かくて、この曲聞くと愛機とガレージに向けてただいまって言いたくなります。
    おかえりなさい、レイヴン。
    貴方の帰還を歓迎します。

  • @cheesychipmunk8382
    @cheesychipmunk8382 5 років тому +32

    I can hear the opening cinematic sound effects in conjunction with the music. Nostalgia / 10

  • @BigFreakingCacodemon
    @BigFreakingCacodemon 7 років тому +37

    What if FROM SOFTWARE put all of the PS1 and PS2 AC Games on Steam with multiplayer support and modding? Just imagine what could come of it: New parts, new levels, music mods, overhauls, new multiplayer maps and more. I'd like to see each game released individually, but if they had a bundle deal for $80, I'd buy it in a heart beat.

  • @AJChisolm
    @AJChisolm 14 років тому +61

    I love the opening trailer and the music to go along with it fits perfectly.
    I can't help but say " Oh Crap!" everytime the second raven gets it's arm shot off by that heavy AC and the camera zooms in slow motion and at 1:00 the music builds and stops while the light AC lands all cool style. Seen it a hundred times and still get goosebumps with the awesome entrances.

    • @kanseidorifto2430
      @kanseidorifto2430 8 місяців тому +2

      Might be an old comment, but after having just seen the opening cutscene, the theme really felt like what I wanted peak Armored Core to feel like, with its desperation and doom that one side can definitely wipe the other and both engage each other in a violent aggression that merges with cold calculation, hunters being the hunted, roles changing in mere seconds then flipping back moments later, always on the verge of teetering off the edge losing control as death awaits them.

  • @BigMobe
    @BigMobe 3 роки тому +84

    The type of music that makes you feel stronger than watching a boss get defeated in an anime by a hero that barely survived.

  • @enricopaolocoronado2511
    @enricopaolocoronado2511 Рік тому +77

    Currently playing through Armored Core 3 Portable on the PPSSPP Emulator to hype myself up for Armored Core VI.
    I'll see you fellow Ravens soon. Whether it's on the battlefield, in the Arena, as allies or as adversaries, we Ravens shall fly once more.

    • @Skycrusher
      @Skycrusher Рік тому +4

      Do me a solid, and go fight Royal Mist with a set up involving Hover legs, Crow stealth extension, no OP-I, Energy Shotgun, Flamethrower, and MX/002 EO Core. You can also use Moonlight with heavy Shotgun and Rockets.
      Crow gets you in and keeps his missile locks off of ya if you get out of position. Mak hover legs are agile enough without boosting you can out counter turn Royal Mist in figure 8 strafe's, stay out missile range, and with either set up you can get into optimal position to melt with the EO+E Shot+Flame combo or pelt away with shotty and rockets between Moonlight strikes. Control distance and range and you can "tank" potential missile salvos by letting yourself stay in his AI lock range to get in good shots by popping Crow, and moving in before the effect wears off.
      Bonus points if you can get a 25 s kill on him with it.

    • @JLseaDaBreeze
      @JLseaDaBreeze Рік тому

      I'm running it on my psp I love it

  • @我が家のレオパたち
    @我が家のレオパたち 2 роки тому +12

    この焦燥感の煽り方ほんとすき。

  • @A3GIR
    @A3GIR 6 років тому +21

    deserves the "Old but Gold" Title.

  • @nightmarefuel1553
    @nightmarefuel1553 6 років тому +22

    I bought armored core 3 portable on my psp from Japan for $10...even though I can’t read Japanese. Still, every time I hear the music, I get chills down my spine and get a large dose of nostalgia. So I tried to play it. Got to the third mission, but it had been so long that I forgot what I was supposed to do and couldn’t get any further.

  • @treelobster7912
    @treelobster7912 5 років тому +20

    Love the chorus of turkeys on this track

  • @bfghgjgdfgstfydu9720
    @bfghgjgdfgstfydu9720 Місяць тому +2

    よく新参のプレイヤーって大体が4以降のBGMに飛びつきがちなんだけど、一番完成度が高いのって3なんだよな。「戦争」っていう感じがにじみ出ている。
    4以降はアニメ戦闘っていう感じで。6は主体性がない、ブレイドランナーとターミネーターのモロパク。

  • @i_the_predator6024
    @i_the_predator6024 5 років тому +14

    Wish I could play this game again. Brings me back when I was a kid

    • @irishijo1
      @irishijo1 Рік тому +1

      Most computers and mobile phones are capable of running PPSSPP (a PSP emulator), which can run the AC3, SL, and LR ports very well, with only a few issues popin up that I remember (Submarine mission from SL had some weird lighting bugs to name one). Emulation isnt for everyone, and theres an argument to be made against it, but there are options out there

  • @CitrusTsunami
    @CitrusTsunami 10 років тому +86

    Why don't they write books in the AC universe? I would read that until its pages fell out.

  • @lx-icon
    @lx-icon 3 роки тому +8

    Closest we've got to this is Titanfall / Apex Legends... Damn, I wish this game series had taken off. AC II and III were the first games I actually bought for myself - played AC2 repeatedly as a new save since I didn't have a memory card at the time hahaha

  • @zacheryrancano2824
    @zacheryrancano2824 10 років тому +20

    I never played Armored Core 3, but the soundtrack sure is nice

  • @vibezzz7211
    @vibezzz7211 6 років тому +19

    THEY NEED TO REMASTER THIS

  • @richardgeiger2985
    @richardgeiger2985 10 років тому +33

    mankind overcoming the AI entity The Controller through the efforts of the "Raven" and returning to the restored planet surface, such epicness

    • @titanjakob1056
      @titanjakob1056 7 років тому +1

      Richard Geiger 29 but in the end war still remained with no one able to control situation was it really worth it destroying something that could have kept humanity at peace?

    • @richardgeiger2985
      @richardgeiger2985 7 років тому

      Titan true peace will never be obtained until all weapons are abolished and outlawed.

    • @titanjakob1056
      @titanjakob1056 7 років тому +3

      Richard Geiger 29 do you think they'll give their weapons up without resistance and besides they will make new ones maybe even worse than anyone can imagine the only way to stop it if someone controls it but at the cost of freedom

    • @richardgeiger2985
      @richardgeiger2985 7 років тому +1

      Titan That is where humanity needs to decide what is more important, being the most powerful or ensuring the survival of humankind.

    • @titanjakob1056
      @titanjakob1056 7 років тому +1

      Richard Geiger 29 humanity's ambition is being the most powerful no matter how hard anyone try's humanity's ambitions will get the better of them that's the one thing the handler didn't understand humanity was destined to destroy it self and rebuild it self over and over again

  • @soucyoh
    @soucyoh 8 років тому +17

    「そろそろ、目標地点に到着する。その前に君達に課せられた依頼を確認する、依頼内容は<市街地に配備された部隊の撃破>、敵勢力は戦闘メカだ。 このミッションを達成すれば君達はアリーナに登録され、レイヴンとして認められる。 このチャンスに二度目はない、必ず成功させることだ・・・ これより作戦領域に到達、ミッションを開始する。」

    • @郁子本間-l3e
      @郁子本間-l3e 8 років тому +6

      「これに生き残れば!」

    • @soucyoh
      @soucyoh 8 років тому +5

      +郁子本間  <システム キドウ>

    • @yu-ba
      @yu-ba 5 років тому +4

      味方です!

  • @hobojoe2031
    @hobojoe2031 10 років тому +22

    SOOOOOOOOOO much nostalgia.

  • @VladimirArkov
    @VladimirArkov 10 років тому +272

    If they put as much time and effort into Armored Core as they did with Dark Souls and Dark Souls II just imagine the possibilities...............

    • @blessedboydragon
      @blessedboydragon 9 років тому +41

      VladimirArkov That would perhaps be more brutal than dark souls XD Cause in some of the AC games you lost you head and limbs if not careful. That would be bitchin I swear!

    • @orangeavedis3791
      @orangeavedis3791 9 років тому +35

      VladimirArkov
      You're saying they didn't? They looked pretty damn fucking polished to me, except AC4 and Nine Breaker. Those were just like "OMG WER LAZEE AND MONEH LETS SHIT ON THEIR PARADE"

    • @jackal1743
      @jackal1743 7 років тому +14

      for answer bud

    • @jackal1743
      @jackal1743 7 років тому +10

      and from software has been making armored core games for 20 years.

    • @SageSea1
      @SageSea1 5 років тому +5

      @@jackal1743 armored core 2 is atill my favorite

  • @Xyrofen
    @Xyrofen 14 років тому +10

    I still get chills when I boot up AC3.
    The good kind.

  • @野良ニキ
    @野良ニキ 5 років тому +11

    これ……チョー懐かしいw
    手がガグガクになってたww

  • @TheShizzle622
    @TheShizzle622 13 років тому +3

    I wish so too. Nobody plays! Its my favorite game ever nd yet it seems to still go unnoticed a game of pure epicness. Y cant it get some damn popularity?

  • @Yumemi_Riamu
    @Yumemi_Riamu 5 років тому +8

    When I was younger, I never knew which side i was on lol

  • @themightynanto3158
    @themightynanto3158 Рік тому

    Best Armored Core ever made. The story, the perfected gameplay, so many customisation options, the music, the graphics, everything. There's just something about it that i feel will never be replicated by any other titles, aside from its expansions.

  • @Jordashwiley
    @Jordashwiley 13 років тому +4

    And im new to armored core i got into it in 2006 but I play the early 2000 ones and the ones today but I got into it fast and now it is one of my all time favorite games now I wish it did know about it sooner, I want a real armored core...

  • @nhavasis
    @nhavasis 9 років тому +69

    Imagine AC on PS4.

    • @SageSea1
      @SageSea1 9 років тому +7

      nhavasis ahhhhh music would be great

    • @Tribal74
      @Tribal74 7 років тому +8

      imagine AC6 on fucking PC ultra graphics 100 plus fps and not 30.

    • @jackal1743
      @jackal1743 7 років тому +3

      pc*

    • @yummycookies58
      @yummycookies58 6 років тому +1

      I know this is a oldass comment, but it's not a dream anymore. From confirmed they're working on a new AC on PS4 today

    • @Tribal74
      @Tribal74 6 років тому

      where???

  • @coreo881
    @coreo881 11 років тому +7

    Holy fizzuck batman!! Imagine an AC MMO centered around Ravens taking jobs that change depending on the playing field's current situation.
    ...lol basically Elder Scrolls Online with mechs with an emphasis on the bounty hunting, part collecting, sweet paint jobs, etc. That game would rule/ruin my life lol.

    • @jackal1743
      @jackal1743 7 років тому

      nobody would play it cause thats gay

    • @droman608
      @droman608 3 роки тому

      AC V was something like this however i didn't like the UI, the splitting between Scan and Combat Modes and that your AC no longer flies...

  • @JulianRides
    @JulianRides 2 роки тому +2

    My favorite song from this game

  • @nitenite8698
    @nitenite8698 6 років тому +2

    I'M SO GLAD YOU MADE THIS!!! I LOVE ARMORED CORE 3! TYSM!

  • @Naetheon
    @Naetheon 7 місяців тому

    @rondus18 do you know where I can get a high quality picture of this video's background?

  • @mgrdendozo2391
    @mgrdendozo2391 7 років тому +2

    The part where AC Uranus comes and lands is so fuckinh EPIC!

  • @Guyver-971
    @Guyver-971 8 років тому +14

    Me i'm waiting for armored core VI on PS4 !!!

    • @beastmodecubed8222
      @beastmodecubed8222 8 років тому

      +Guyver- 971 SAME HERE!

    • @lawsooqi
      @lawsooqi 8 років тому

      I'm armored core fans too

    • @lawsooqi
      @lawsooqi 8 років тому

      I'm armored core fans too

    • @lawsooqi
      @lawsooqi 8 років тому

      I'm armored core fans too

    • @freddyfnaf4393
      @freddyfnaf4393 7 років тому

      Soo QI LAW me too I'm so addicted!!!!

  • @brandonvessell4659
    @brandonvessell4659 Рік тому +5

    I hope they make a new game

    • @Crabo99
      @Crabo99 Рік тому +2

      25th of August!

    • @Onlooker891
      @Onlooker891 Рік тому +5

      You're not gonna believe this...

  • @flakgunaxel115
    @flakgunaxel115 11 років тому +2

    they should of made and exclusive theme for exile since he's freakin hard but luckily for me i know how to defeat him in a heart beat

  • @thorinhannahs4614
    @thorinhannahs4614 Рік тому

    AC6 tracks just can't compete with AC3 tracks. I can't stop the reel in my head that is the intro trailer when hearing this again.

  • @justincholos.balisang6884
    @justincholos.balisang6884 2 місяці тому

    The sky truly is artificial

  • @meareAaron
    @meareAaron 8 років тому +8

    to this day i still dont know how to use those turret things mounted in the center torso...

    • @rondus18
      @rondus18  8 років тому +5

      It's an alterative to the overboost. You just press the right analog stick when using a core that has them.

    • @meareAaron
      @meareAaron 8 років тому

      i meant that thing on the picture XD is it a gun i know that torso is for over boost but what is that gun looking thing on its torso?

    • @rondus18
      @rondus18  8 років тому +5

      Oh that. I believe that just automatically shoots down incoming missles sometimes.

    • @meareAaron
      @meareAaron 8 років тому

      from what i remember it was a separate core item iindependent of the core XD damn it now i miss AC even more... AC PC!!! Form Soft get your shit straight!

    • @valkyrie8334
      @valkyrie8334 8 років тому +4

      As a massive nerd of the game; the OB cores, one of which you see in this picture, have in-built missile interceptors which will automatically, and rather feebly, attempt to shoot down incoming missile projectiles. The alternate versions, EO (Exceed-Orbit) cores lose the ability to intercept missiles without an extension, but can fire a recharging energy-based laser at enemy mechs. In AC: Silent Line, they introduced solid-based EO cores which had more damage, but could not regenerate.

  • @danieleironerodejo9567
    @danieleironerodejo9567 4 місяці тому

    This theme is a lit theme fr.

  • @AlchemistiD
    @AlchemistiD 11 років тому +1

    You have now entered Thunderdome, good luck

  • @hadoken-fj3ts
    @hadoken-fj3ts 8 років тому +1

    armored core 3 man good game and hack and slah hardcore game some mission are though as balls to complete and some missions are one life oportunity you die you need to start all over again that mission over and over for me i never finisned the game am still trying to finish

    • @egoist7990
      @egoist7990 7 років тому

      Last Raven will destroy you. The game imo is the hardest in the entire AC series by far. Once you get a hang of the controls though, you'll pretty much just bunny hop your way to victory.

  • @LuckyNoDice747
    @LuckyNoDice747 12 років тому +2

    the cycle of hate never ends ):

  • @TheZephile
    @TheZephile 5 років тому +4

    does the gun in the chest even fire ingame?

    • @rondus18
      @rondus18  5 років тому +7

      It has a low chance of shooting down incoming missiles, I believe.

  • @tecamachalco
    @tecamachalco 12 років тому +1

    *MG Fire, AC Boosters* AC behind wall damn!! WTh do ido!!

  • @Shiro-Foxy
    @Shiro-Foxy 13 років тому

    @TheSenselessdrunk Pride and delusion....nobody can defeat you in your own world...but in THIS world you will fall...I may not be the nine breaker, but maybe the starter of 9 breakers. Destroyed I may be in a battle to rid of you, but more will take my place, and in the end, you will be destroyed.
    9 breakers, UNITE!

  • @VelthAkabra
    @VelthAkabra 13 років тому +2

    Right as 1:38 they start saying something. Can anyone enlighten me as to what?

  • @SiriusJuanForte
    @SiriusJuanForte 12 років тому

    Me and Blood Falcon together forever since this game gave birth to him and we will dominate all that opposes my awesome paint job on him.

  • @AJChisolm
    @AJChisolm 13 років тому

    @TheShizzle622 Dude I was playing AC3 literally 20 minutes ago, I am that fanatical. Favorite game period. I soooo know where you are coming from. Any of you people on the wikia?

  • @VelthAkabra
    @VelthAkabra 13 років тому

    @Kleptmann :P I finally got pissed off at Global Cortex for not giving me enough mission info, and then tricking me into killing three Ravens in a row.

  • @AJChisolm
    @AJChisolm 13 років тому

    @orkkilla5589
    Yeah that would have made more sense but we all know that one friend who insist on going up against the biggest guy alone. Makes for some entertainment for sure. As for showering with bullets, hell yeah. I forget which Twinhead, but which ever Twinhead w or Twinhead b, the sister, reacts the same way if you get her in a corner with the machine gun. She just stands their and takes it.

  • @Nineball459
    @Nineball459 13 років тому

    @AJChisolm which makes me wonder, shouldn't the medium AC gone after the heavy while the two lights battle it out? I also love how in the end the mirage light AC gets showered with bullets XD

  • @flakgunaxel115
    @flakgunaxel115 9 років тому +2

    Man I'd be an awesome AC pilot especially with my AC being named Zantetsuken

    • @blessedboydragon
      @blessedboydragon 9 років тому

      Axel Shinoda I wouldn't say "awesome" until you've achieved some of the feats other players have in AC. AC had this wonderful habit of busting you down every time you got cocky and said "I'm awesome"

    • @flakgunaxel115
      @flakgunaxel115 9 років тому +1

      actually ive built many great AC`s and my best was the Tank one ive made which by far has a high attack and defense and its health well its at the limit and i know it may be slow but its power is magnificant

    • @flakgunaxel115
      @flakgunaxel115 9 років тому +1

      my Ac is able to stand up to other ac`s and the Giant MT like a soldier

    • @blessedboydragon
      @blessedboydragon 9 років тому

      Axel Shinoda So are mine but once more it has nothing to do with the quality of a unit that just is a helping factor. It comes down to you, what can YOU do as a raven/lynx? I can take down giant MT's in three shots with some of my AC's and have also in armored core 5 and verdict been forced to solo some of the strongest teams and have won with a light weight which I might add is one of the hardest most nope filled experiences I've had but still managed. The fact is despite all my experience as a pilot in these I still find that those who get cocky die very fast. I've had it happen to me some and I learned to keep a cool head and low ego. I also will add that without the weapons I use to kill it in three shots I've also taken down giant MTS in roughly a minute with a light weight with things like handguns and stuff. Arms Forts as well...

    • @flakgunaxel115
      @flakgunaxel115 9 років тому

      very impressive... i admire your skill but yes i to am able to use my own abilities to pilot an Ac and i do so with honor
      i treat the ac like if well if it was myself

  • @Zeruckiven
    @Zeruckiven 8 років тому +2

    What to listen to when playing D.VA

    • @TheZephile
      @TheZephile 7 років тому +1

      shitty mech d.va lol

    • @deathserpent9747
      @deathserpent9747 7 років тому +3

      D.Va aint compared to an armored core. Even a normal could kill her lol

    • @Captain_Vitorio_Muscovy
      @Captain_Vitorio_Muscovy 6 років тому

      I like to listen to this while playing Fahra and Bastion.
      I wish D.VA had directional boosters to dodge attacks; it'd make her mech a bit closer to an AC.

  • @flakgunaxel115
    @flakgunaxel115 9 років тому

    I wish I could be an American pilot along with the Ravens plus my AC name would be called Zantetsuken haha

  • @yeefulor9954
    @yeefulor9954 6 років тому

    Best armored core

  • @rcktmn12
    @rcktmn12 14 років тому

    tubular dude!

  • @Shiro-Foxy
    @Shiro-Foxy 13 років тому

    @TheSenselessdrunk Then you are going down my friend.

  • @lostnumber08
    @lostnumber08 Рік тому

    bangs

  • @AJChisolm
    @AJChisolm 13 років тому

    @SethraFlechet
    No idea, I assume its in Japanese

  • @AJChisolm
    @AJChisolm 13 років тому

    @TheShizzle622
    Unfortunately I am too poor for a psp. sorry. wish I could take you up on that one.

  • @BlaineHarnack
    @BlaineHarnack 15 років тому

    wicked

  • @BigFreakingCacodemon
    @BigFreakingCacodemon 9 років тому +1

    Anyone know the notes to the melody?

  • @Walmart_Bag69
    @Walmart_Bag69 Рік тому +4

    It’s corin time

  • @TheShizzle622
    @TheShizzle622 13 років тому

    Y dont people play ac3 online qith the psp version? Then I could prove my absolute dominance. >:D

  • @pokeng
    @pokeng Рік тому +1

    Bruh i can almost hear this track in 6 story trailer.

  • @Technicallyaddicted
    @Technicallyaddicted Рік тому

    AC3 is proof that gamers have gotten weak and complacent. Gamers always saying: dark souls is hard. AC6 rage quit on tutorial boss. From software games are too hard.
    Meanwhile AC3 will punish you with prejudice for every tiny little mistake you make. You can have the best mech in the game and bosses will still force feed you L’s and make you so dead you’ll be reincarnated as an abortion. Todays gamers would not survive against a real raven.

    • @darukaru
      @darukaru Рік тому +1

      Sir this is a Wendy’s

    • @Vross_MKII
      @Vross_MKII 6 місяців тому +1

      I don't understand what they mean by "dark souls is hard" when AC 1-3 pretty much throws you into the deep end while people throws bricks at you

    • @gtf234
      @gtf234 6 місяців тому

      @@Vross_MKII Honestly, to me the early gens felt harder out of the gate than they probably should be mainly because King's Field's controls don't work or feel very good in a 3rd person action game- compared to them being fairly standard from past generations for the 1st person dungeon crawlers the Verdite trilogy games were. The moment you can rebind the controls so all movement is done on the d-pad and all camera is on the shoulder buttons, things feel way easier to control and you aren't getting torn to shreds while you fumble with just trying to move. Not to downplay how many genuine threats the games presented, just when you can comfortably control your movement, a lot of that is mitigated.
      But I'm old and grew up on those old controls and remember when dual analog stick controls were billed a gimmick rather than the standard interface people take for granted now. Seeing self proclaimed "hardcore fromsoftware fans" (who despite such claims did not seem to know the company existed before 2012 and was one of 3D developers for the PSX) going back to the old AC gens only to be incapable of wrapping their heads around a camera linked to the movement is pretty entertaining.

  • @TheShizzle622
    @TheShizzle622 13 років тому

    Hey uh. Send me a friend request. I cant figure out how... sorry.

  • @decimatorentertainmentstud8523
    @decimatorentertainmentstud8523 8 років тому

    Captain America: Civil War, anyone?

    • @Sorrowdusk
      @Sorrowdusk 8 років тому

      Something like that was in there?

  • @GladiatorKirion
    @GladiatorKirion 12 років тому +2

    I would be an AC pilot... I wouldn't die.

    • @jackal1743
      @jackal1743 7 років тому +6

      if the main character in nexus dies what makes you think you wouldnt

    • @GladiatorKirion
      @GladiatorKirion 4 місяці тому

      @@jackal1743 im him

  • @TheShizzle622
    @TheShizzle622 13 років тому +1

    Im playin right now. Game is like jesus pressed onto a disk. Just killed terra.... again. I love beating him sensselese as punishment for is gay abuse of the karasawa.