Curious to get some opinions from UK people. We live in Norway where a fully specced (all options) Buzz costs 55k quid (there is almost no vat on ev's now). The Multivan (long wheelbase and some options costs over 70k here. Cars are expensive in Norway... Charging network is very good here. No problem to find chargers, even during the holidays along popular routes. Roads are also small and low speeds in general, barely any motorway. If that was the case in the UK would any of you get a Buzz? I'm a cabinet maker with three kids, so hoping the Buzz will work well for us. We've got one on order, hopefully it will be delivererd by March.
That sounds like the perfect scenario for the ID Buzz, although it’s the reduction in range with lower temperatures that would be my concern dependant on the distances you were travelling in a single trip
My wife’s got id3 58kw ,I can get 240 to 280 in the summer but in the winter 0 to 5 degrees with heating on its half that. Electric cars are still the future but I will keep my T6 camper daily driver until the range is improved.
It's not a Transporter replacement imo. That'll be a joint venture with Ford (like the New Caddy) so will likely be bigger than the current T6.1. The ID Buzz sits in between the Caddy and Transporter, but as part of the ID range, rather than the traditional VW model line up. It's a very cool vehicle, can't wait to see some modified and converted ones soon
The number of public charging points may be increasing, but the demand for charging points is increasing at a faster rate - hence the queues often seen at charging points. If you then widen the definition of "infrastructure" to include the generative capacity of the national grid, then the picture is even bleaker - without a step-change in capacity, the predicted demands of EV charging will break the grid long before EV roll-out is complete. Vive la révolution! 🤪
You are right, the capacity of the grid does need to increase and this isn’t an easy fix. I’m sure our government are well on top of it though 😳 I meant 90% of journeys without a stop to charge. Most journeys (round trip) are within the range. The other 10% would largely involve longer journeys on the motorway, where chargers are readily available
@@paulbower5274 Very true, it didn’t appear on the them, but they were retrospectively named as part of the Transporter series. I do understand your point. The Caravelle and California are not Transporters officially, however they are in all but name
You be better off waiting for 2nd generation id buzz It’s a great looking van But small battery, no rear electric windows(my kids need them or Pukey pukey time) poor infotainment system with invisible climate control at night is going to be an issue for first edition buyers
Good points. I understand the climate control is being addressed in future models. Seems to be a common criticism. I’m sure a big battery will come, there is plenty of room 😀
Euro 6 is definitely on my radar too, unless I take the plunge for electric. There are too many clean air zones popping up and it won’t be long til they reach Devon and Cornwall
T1 vs Buzz? Its all marketing. And range for the 77kW version in real world use is quite pathetic. Full to zero was tested in Norway in winter and only achieved 150 miles on a full charge, and no one will (or should) be driving the Buzz to zero. Maintaining charge above 20% is recommended. So really this EV is not going to be a viable replacement for the Transporter outside an urban environment. And thats not even factoring in the very low payload for the Buzz and Cargo or the internal dimensions. Next Cali will be a Ford/VW collaboration built in Turkey.
150miles is not good. Winter conditions really do have a negative effect on the range. A bigger battery is required, to make it viable for more people. However I would imagine that even the current range will be adequate for a significant proportion of people who use their campers.
🤣 Think I want one too. Need to give it a real test. “What is it?” Seems to be very frequently talked about amongst Transporter owner. Some completely dismiss the vehicle as no relation to a Transporter. Bottom line is, it doesn’t matter, it’s a great vehicle and I’m keen 😄
@@antonybailey8939 A bigger range would certainly be beneficial, although I think other than long distance trips, the current range would be adequate for daily use. Regarding price, everything has increased, although finance payments for a 204 Highline Kombi Transporter are similar to the ID Buzz. The Buzz has a better residual. Not actually a positive if your a cash buyer though
Curious to get some opinions from UK people. We live in Norway where a fully specced (all options) Buzz costs 55k quid (there is almost no vat on ev's now). The Multivan (long wheelbase and some options costs over 70k here. Cars are expensive in Norway... Charging network is very good here. No problem to find chargers, even during the holidays along popular routes. Roads are also small and low speeds in general, barely any motorway. If that was the case in the UK would any of you get a Buzz? I'm a cabinet maker with three kids, so hoping the Buzz will work well for us. We've got one on order, hopefully it will be delivererd by March.
That sounds like the perfect scenario for the ID Buzz, although it’s the reduction in range with lower temperatures that would be my concern dependant on the distances you were travelling in a single trip
My wife’s got id3 58kw ,I can get 240 to 280 in the summer but in the winter 0 to 5 degrees with heating on its half that. Electric cars are still the future but I will keep my T6 camper daily driver until the range is improved.
The winter does pose an issue for range. Fantastic in summer though.
It's not a Transporter replacement imo. That'll be a joint venture with Ford (like the New Caddy) so will likely be bigger than the current T6.1.
The ID Buzz sits in between the Caddy and Transporter, but as part of the ID range, rather than the traditional VW model line up.
It's a very cool vehicle, can't wait to see some modified and converted ones soon
There are a few photos around of modified ones. Not seen a converted one though
@Staycation Lifestyle not yet, it won't be long though.
Absolutely, I know a few who are working on them. I’m sure designs will evolve. I love it 😀
If you see the interior of the new Ford (which they have already presented) you can see it's very VWish and likely to be pretty much the same
The number of public charging points may be increasing, but the demand for charging points is increasing at a faster rate - hence the queues often seen at charging points. If you then widen the definition of "infrastructure" to include the generative capacity of the national grid, then the picture is even bleaker - without a step-change in capacity, the predicted demands of EV charging will break the grid long before EV roll-out is complete.
Vive la révolution! 🤪
You are right, the capacity of the grid does need to increase and this isn’t an easy fix. I’m sure our government are well on top of it though 😳
I meant 90% of journeys without a stop to charge. Most journeys (round trip) are within the range. The other 10% would largely involve longer journeys on the motorway, where chargers are readily available
@@StaycationLifestyle Yeah - I re-watched and realised what you were getting at re 90% 👍
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does it say transporter on it ? no. Does the multivan say transporter on it ? .no. So is it a transporter . I dont think its rocket science
The “original” what people call a Transporter, doesn’t say Transporter either.
transporter is a name that appeared first on a t3 [t25 to some}.
@@paulbower5274 Very true, it didn’t appear on the them, but they were retrospectively named as part of the Transporter series. I do understand your point. The Caravelle and California are not Transporters officially, however they are in all but name
@@StaycationLifestyle I know we luv em a bit too much
Absolutely 😍
You be better off waiting for 2nd generation id buzz
It’s a great looking van
But small battery, no rear electric windows(my kids need them or Pukey pukey time) poor infotainment system with invisible climate control at night is going to be an issue for first edition buyers
Good points. I understand the climate control is being addressed in future models. Seems to be a common criticism. I’m sure a big battery will come, there is plenty of room 😀
@@StaycationLifestyle but I wouldn’t say no if it was given to me in it’s current form
If you make your kids vomit out of the windows you are cruel - pull over beforehand.
I like the transporters.if the Only they can sleep 6 😞
Transport plus awning and your good 🤣. You could opt for a VW Crafter, they can cater for 6
@@StaycationLifestyle this is my next step when I get rid of my Lwb sprinter 54 plate for a euro 6 one
Euro 6 is definitely on my radar too, unless I take the plunge for electric. There are too many clean air zones popping up and it won’t be long til they reach Devon and Cornwall
T1 vs Buzz? Its all marketing. And range for the 77kW version in real world use is quite pathetic. Full to zero was tested in Norway in winter and only achieved 150 miles on a full charge, and no one will (or should) be driving the Buzz to zero. Maintaining charge above 20% is recommended. So really this EV is not going to be a viable replacement for the Transporter outside an urban environment. And thats not even factoring in the very low payload for the Buzz and Cargo or the internal dimensions. Next Cali will be a Ford/VW collaboration built in Turkey.
150miles is not good. Winter conditions really do have a negative effect on the range. A bigger battery is required, to make it viable for more people. However I would imagine that even the current range will be adequate for a significant proportion of people who use their campers.
Sorry mucka, you spent too much time on what its called. I dont care what its called, its not important. What's important, is, I want one
🤣 Think I want one too. Need to give it a real test. “What is it?” Seems to be very frequently talked about amongst Transporter owner. Some completely dismiss the vehicle as no relation to a Transporter. Bottom line is, it doesn’t matter, it’s a great vehicle and I’m keen 😄
@@StaycationLifestyle Exactly,👍 it will do what my T5 will do, space wise, and thats all that matters. 2 dogs and a month in France, job done
Fantastic, that sounds like a perfect use of it 👍
Great looking van but the range needs to improve and the price is ridiculous
@@antonybailey8939 A bigger range would certainly be beneficial, although I think other than long distance trips, the current range would be adequate for daily use. Regarding price, everything has increased, although finance payments for a 204 Highline Kombi Transporter are similar to the ID Buzz. The Buzz has a better residual. Not actually a positive if your a cash buyer though
It’s an electric Van and yes it is a Transporter replacement.
What’s up with the stupid questions?
Majority of people say this isn’t a Transporter replacement, it isn’t clear. There are indicators it is and isn’t. Hence the valid questions