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For some reels 2500 have a I shape knob handle and 3000 a T shape. That’s why they make this 2 very similar in size. The handle style is the difference.
Penn squadron III inshore 7ft medium light, 10lb braid 10-25lb leader, 3000 bg is my go to for 75% of my fishing here in the north east. Then ill go up to a 9ft penn prevail to a 3500 bg 20lb braid and 20-30lb leader for my semi larger lures. Then 10ft penn prevail, 6000 penn battle 50lb braid to 50lb leader for my larger lures. These are my go to setups since im a bank or surf fishing type guy here in north east. And so i also by the way love for light tackle fishing and always have. And always will be. So this years personal goal is to catch a 15lb bluefish here in the north east on my medium light setup and yet to do it. But i know it will before end of season. This all is because of yall. Learned so much from yall how to fish with lighter style setups. So thank you.
I mean it makes sense if you're running braid, but I run straight flurocarbon because tieing in a leader line constantly is too much of a hastle most of the time(though I run straight braid on my 2500). A 4000 series is the perfect do all size reel if you do decide to do anything bigger. So if you're not buying a bunch of different reels and just looking for one do do it all, then just go with a 4000.
I forgot to mention, there was a guy somewhere on UA-cam that had about a dozen lines tied to a bar, a few were fluorocarbon, a few were mono and a few were braid, the one type of line that disappeared almost completely was fluorocarbon, braid was the most visible. Not sure if any of that means anything, but I thought it was worth mentioning. He also used 4 different colors to see which color disappeared the best, and clear was the winner.
Based on this info, would it be safe to say, not only is a 1000 size reel lighter (enabling your wrist / arm not tire as easily), the 1000 size reel might be a better choice for trout fishing in extremely cold conditions, when the slowest possible retrieve is recommended... of course, slowing down your retrieve can accomplish this same slow retrieve, but as many will say - "when you think you are fishing slow, slow it down even more." With the 1000 size reel, retrieving on average 10" less than a 2500 or 3000, the 1000 will actually help prohibit you from retrieving too fast... in these winter months when the slowest possible retrieve is preferred. In my opinion, inshore saltwater fishing for Speckled Trout, Red Fish, Etc, seems to be moving more towards freshwater bass fishing. Personally, I have started using many baits traditionally used for bass fishing, to catch Speckled Trout /Drum... That being said, just as bass fisherman have found they are catching large/jumbo size bass actually "speed cranking"... and finding success with these faster speeds/baits during winter months, when traditionally, the slower you can retrieve baits, the more success you will have. These higher speeds are actually getting a reaction bite, even when these fish are lethargic.
Watched several of your videos, looking for a budget setup spinning reel and rod for intercoastal area and backwater in Alabama. Fishing for redfish or anything else I can eat. I will use for a week and then maybe once a year in saltwater but may use in a deep lake in midwest.
I went through many reels trying to go cheap. I have saved a lot of money buying a little better reel. They just don't last and the parts corrode a lot quicker.
You get what you pay for. Buy cheap and it will only last two or three years depending how much you use it and take care of it. You pay for a better reel it will last longer and it also have better warranty.
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I’ve always used bait casting. I was looking at my one spinning reel yesterday and the monofilament was wrapped around the shaft under the spool. How does that happen? I don’t have backlashes on my bait casting reels that much.
Is it an issue running braid on smaller diameter reels with line twists/wind knots? In my mind the tighter loops on a smaller diameter spool could be an issue.
can you have less bs in your video and go straight forward to the topic. Every single video on this channel is more like a commerical than a helpful fishing guide video
Hi Joe and Luke - You both mentioned you used to buy a lot of 4K size reels. Nowadays the technology has gotten so good that the 4K reels are sometimes 8 oz or less. I use a MedHeavy Rods - like Pro Green and Green Water from GLoomis - really good rods and pricey. The 4K reels like the KAGE MQ seem to balance it out perfectly… Is this wrong? I still line it up w/ 10lb power pro and seem to be able to cast a mile.
The spinning reel sizing by manufacturer's is in a word, dumb. There are no standards. The sane way to pick spex on a spinner is to check the spool capacity for both braid and mono, check the retrieve ratio, check the max drag and how well it works, check the reel's weight.
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"you have to go by the specs.." OR.. hear me out.. go buy local, hold the reels, compare them.. and you wont be fooled by size conventions of different brands/models
I think you’re missing the point here @gabrielduarte3904. He’s not talking about specs as in size and weight. He’s talking about specs as in line weight recommendation, gear ratio, line retrieval rate, etc and matching that to the type of fishing you’re doing.
$800 reel!!!! I went to tackle shop to get line on my $30 daiwa crossfire from academy and the guy almost couldn’t tell the difference between that and the daiwa procyon that they had in the store. So I even question whether a $150-$200 reel is even worth it if the pros can’t barely tell.
They have pro's working at sporting goods stores??? From my experiences the majority of guys working the fishing departments at places like Academy and Dicks are'nt knowligable. I find that doing research and/or having some prior experience with what your looking to buy is the better route. IMO, if you ask and trust the guy working in that dept. who's basically there to make a sale and does'nt know there ass from there elbow is a risk of your money.
I should probably have worded that a little better. I wasn’t trying to compare a $30 reel to an $800 but I guess it probably seemed that way. I also wasn’t referring to the guys that work at places like academy as “pros” although with my very beginner level of fishing, they still know more than me. I’m sure you all do...
Would be great to have a video that explains all the range of spinning reels and their application.. For e.g I have a long cast meridian 7000, should I use it for surf casting only or can I use it offshore?
Long cast reels usually just has a higher (taller) spool compared to the regular version of the same model. So wanting to get that extra distance, one would use those in casting out as far as possible, like on the surf. You don't have to use it only on the surf, but having that capability is better to not use than not have and want it. 7000 on paper (not all brands have similar sized 7000s, 6000s, etc) would be good for a minimum sized for offshore. Depending on what you going for and what type of line you want.
6 lb and 10 lb damm I use that for brown trout Trolling high country lakes I use 10 for whites and stripes u would think gulf inshore would be at least 20 lb on a 4-5 k reel. ?
How's that Fenwick hold up? I was lookin' @ that same rod in M and the 7" M St.Croix Avid. Theres not to much info on those HMG series rods and how they hold up fishing inshore.
I gotta ask cause I'm torn Ive been using several Okuma reels for years now and was curious if you guys have used any? The cheaper Okumas Im using are the Avenger series both the original and B series in 6500 and 8000 on surf rods One 10ft med hvy and one 11ft med hvy both rated at 1-6oz of weight ( probably overkill but too late now) Then on an inshore rod im using a little okuma inspira 3000 Its small like the fuego and is probably one of my favorite reels. Any experience with any of their products? Im strongly considering going to daiwa BGs for most things
I would be curious your guys thoughts on spool diameter and the casting release (where it sits on your finger). I can put a casting plug in a soup can at 120 feet with a bait caster but can't hit a barn door with a spinning rod. I saw where the smaller reels sit different on your finger due to rod angle? Would a 3000 be easier to cast in this respect?
Hey guys, what about casting distance? What features maximize casting distance? Will a long cast spool help much? I'm looking at the new Diawa Ballistic MQ LT versus the new Shimano Sustain FJ with the long cast spool - both in the 3000 size. Which one will cast further?
Longer Rod + Thinner line. LC spool cast abit farther but i personally go for lighter 3000 reel so i can cast all day. I use my spinfisher LC reels + surf rods since i need every bit of range for surf fishing then let the bait sit for a while and im not casting frequent.
And between those 2 youd pick id pick the sustain. Me personally for a 200+usd reel it shud have better material than zinc gears doesnt matter how big the gear is.
Interesting and insightful. Believe it or not watching this video made me rethink my reel choice for a 9’ surf spinning rod and drop down one size. It was if I knew this instinctively but wasn’t willing to accept it based on old biases. Thanks
I caught a 25lb giant trevally on a fuego 3000 and a daiwa legalis sea bass rod 7 foot on a 40 gram jig it was a hard fight and the rod nearly broke but got the fish to the boat at the end
Hey there! Just stumbled across your UA-cam channel (and IG profile) this weekend. I'm a now-30-year-old Palm Bay, FL, native (living currently in Saint Cloud, FL, due to work) who did a ton of saltwater inshore fishing with my dad as a kid and teenager (off causeways, jettys, surf fishing, and Indian River wading/island/boating fishing)...primarily for redfish, Jack Crevalle, & Snook. For my old man's 65th birthday, I'm looking to buy him a great new rod and reel setup to get him back into the saltwater fishing spirit. Ten years ago and beyond, he was a huge Shimano + Ugly Stik fan (and, with a 17' Edgewater boat, caught many 30"+ and even 40"+ reds and Jacks...I can share pics if you want haha, just lmk)...but checking online nowadays, it seems Daiwa BG (or BG MQ) has all but dominated the mid-class inshore saltwater reel market. Based on everything I've shared so far, I'm curious what your guys' recommendation(s) would be for my dad's 65th (6/17) & Fathers' Day. Thanks a ton!!!
i have a 20+ year old shimano sienna that i think i paid $30 for. it has been through salt and sand and every other type of hell. i have never even so much as rinsed it. works like the day it was new
I still use two Mitchell Reels for saltwater, dock fishing and wade fishing..G4000 and the AVSIV 4000…they have held up for years, a little spray with freshwater and most of these reels can last! However I do also have a BG 6500 and you really can’t beat that for tarpon and pulling giant snook from under piers! 👍 thanks for the videos guy, this helps a lot of fisherman even those who aren’t in our insider club! Thanks guys..tight lines
I think if you do your own services you could save a hell of a lot of money i do not care for warranty cover also if they stuff it up and your reels not right you will know they did nothing to your reel service i have heard of people who have put their reels in for a service and nothing was improved after the service .
i only have 1 DAIWA reel and i use it for catfishing. it is a DF100A (10000 size) spooled with 100lb braid and a 8/0 circle hook. it is comically oversized but it works for me as i have nerve damage and limited range of motion in my left hand/wrist. i have yet to lose a fish using this reel.
Interesting video & lots of good info... Just wondering... What would it take to create a spreadsheet, or some table, which would list the various characteristics of reels? My thought is headings like this: Manufacturer // Reel Name // Line size (range) // Line Capacity // Reel weight // Inches per full turn // any other columns that you think are relevant. It could start with the reels listed in the fish strong store as example and insiders could submit, or add, specifications for other reels we use. Probably need to set up a standard format for submitting data, possibly a google form feeding a google spreadsheet. Anyone have any other thoughts?
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I choose the shimano 3000 size over the 2500 because i do a lot of bank fishing and I’m my situation the line does matter when you hooked up to a 31inch red and next you make catch a small flounder that’s how saltwater fishing is
For me, SoCal fishing with Phenix trifecta lite 9’ paired with a fuego LT 3000 to toss artificials with #20 braid and short flouro leader. The setup is crazy light but I could probably go to a lighter reel with what I’ve been catching😆
I wish that I had seen this video before I bought the Diawa Ballistic LT 5000. I purchased this when I compared the body of this reel to the couple of others I own in the 3000 series of other brands that I own. Dont get me wrong, the Ballistic is a fantastic reel.
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As an Aussie that's been through the same thing with reel sizes, I can tell you right now that for MAJORITY of the inshore fishing that I do, 2500 reels are pretty well perfect, I've caught some big fish on 2500 reels, yeah I have a couple of other sizes of reels for my inshore but the bigger size reels are either for a bigger drag to try and skull drag the stronger fish out of structure (a 4000 size) and then I also have a 12000 size but that's exclusively for when I'm trying to catch decent size bullsharks in summer. Have to know what your predominantly targeting and what you need out of the reels 👌 good video fellas 🤙
You guys put me on Daiwa and now I am never turning back. The fuego can handle big fish and the bg is a great live bait reel for pulling fish out. I have not experienced flex with the fuego. With 10 pound braid and drag set light you can’t flex it. Thanks guys!
OMG Good stuff Guy's ,love the comparisons and the crazy differances between makes and even Models of same brand ,Thanks for that..,Also never and I mean Never Apologize for Dumb and Dummer References LOL Great Movie.,,, and third I really think the over seas market should be exposed for the junk they try to pass off as economical... Peace
So what is the Tarpon Reel you were talking about? I dont do much Tarpon but I do enjoy Cobia fishing in the Spring. I currently use a 5000 Penn Battle which I absolutly love but I am open to trying something new.
Looks like a st Croix avid rod. Not sure what length or power. I only know because I use a 7' ML avid for inshore and absolutely love it. They are fantastic rods.
Gear ration to spool diameter is not true ,actually it’s the gear ration to the rotor arc or space between rotor arms which accomodate the right spool diameter. ie having a smaller spool dia would take same line retrieval of the bigger one in the same reel. rotor arc justify bigger/small spool diameter.
I payed $60 for first penn feris you can touch one under $150?? What 😯 there allso much money. My surf reels are okuma bait runners great getting old still working great
Hi guys.. always good content. Can you make a video on budget rods like (daiwa D wave…sweepfire…shimano FX… even the GX2 ugly stick.. etc..etc) thanks in advance.
Thnx Luke & Joe ! , Maybe Mexico or Honduras or El Salvador ( poorer countries ) can have a chance to build some of your product ideas ,,, Manufacturing & Shipping Issues may be less problematic than having SE Asia to make & ship these these needed peoducts ,,, ( help consistency ) ,,, God Bless U & Ur Families 🐟🕊✨
I've seen, more than once, a fishing rod vanish off a boat deck... at light speed. Drop a $800 reel plus a $700 rod (??) off a boat... in the deep water... I'm going to learn to cry.
Like most videos there are so Mannnny yahoos and wish they were. You guys rank up there with the few I can tell that know there sh1t. Although a great video, I didnt see where you discussed the "Specs" for the different applications...line capacity for certain applications being my current question. I'm upgrading my equipment including a (2) 40 year old diawa bg 2500s that i just took to the surf for the first time in 20 years. still going stong but almost out of line after casting and setting in rod holder. You modern BG review was helpful. If you see this, post a link to any advice. Untill then I will keep searching with "salt strong" added to my query.
Hy . Im kinda new to salt strong and I fish in south Africa so I know it's not always the same . I just want to know on your bg do you go higher than 30lb braid and if you do for what type of fish
We usually go fishing at a river mouth/mangrove delta system for Snook and Tarpon. The snooks are usually in the 2-3lb sizes but the tarpons can get up to 40lb+, but generally under 20lbs. What size reel and line test would you recommend? I usually use 3000 and 4000 size penn or shimano reels with 20lb - 40lb braided line. Thank you.
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Ok, off topic, but jeez I dodged a bullet when I was buying by first bigbait casting reel for pike. First I was smart enough to get the left-hand retrieve (which is how 99% of anglers cast in Latvia, but globally it’s the opposite), but also I tested the reel same day and realized I needed the highest 8.1:1 gear ratio! Took the line off, dried the reel, got to the shop on Friday night, last hour and got it replaced. Wheew 😅
I’ve caught big 20-30 lbs black drum on a 3000 Daiwa emcast Baitrunner and 30 lb braid. But it really depends on the style of fishing you’re doing. Really close to shore you can probably get the job done with 1000-3000 series reel 10-15 lb braid or mono. If you wanna really get your bait out there, you’re gonna have to get a heavy power surf rod, and something with a lot of line like a shimano Baitrunner , or a okuma coronado, and generally 50lbs of braid atleast to withstand the weight of the bait and the weight of the lead. I generally run with a 6’ 6 to 7’2 rod medium light with a 2000 series reel 7-12 lbs of drag strength and 10-15 lb. Just to catch sheepshead, small baitfish, small drum, even trout. The emcast is good because it doesn’t take much line to fill the spool, and it comes with two spools, I have mono on one and braid in the other. And I generally use my surf rods for anything bigger
I am in my 50's. I have fished all my life with never spending over 60.00 for a rod and real combined price. And I have caught everything from minnow shiners to 7ft hammerhead. Apparently this video is a video for new upcoming tournament guys.
Looking at my first inshore combo , I got a hold of a kastking pedigree II 7’6” medium heavy rod, and a Penn pursuit Iv 2500 , which seems to favorably compare to the Diawa fuego 3000 , is this gonna be too light a real for SC coastal inshore waters? To long a rod ? Should I go up to the 4000 size reel?
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In shore and beach the fish are not that big how many 20 lb fish u really catching ? I e went down to 1500 and 300 type reels Long cast bigger reels for running fish and line capacity
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Sorry but I disagree with the concept THE BEST inshore rod. We each fish differently and thus look for different things in rod when choosing one. What I like, you might not & vice versa
i enjoy light reels as much as anybody else but i find they twist and flex on the big ones. i bite the bullet and always go with aluminum bodied reels. they can be 2500's or 3000's but metal. i find the daiwa bg series the best buy for smoothness and strength out there.
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3000 is my sweet spot. Perfect size, in my opinion.
For some reels 2500 have a I shape knob handle and 3000 a T shape. That’s why they make this 2 very similar in size. The handle style is the difference.
Penn squadron III inshore 7ft medium light, 10lb braid 10-25lb leader, 3000 bg is my go to for 75% of my fishing here in the north east. Then ill go up to a 9ft penn prevail to a 3500 bg 20lb braid and 20-30lb leader for my semi larger lures. Then 10ft penn prevail, 6000 penn battle 50lb braid to 50lb leader for my larger lures. These are my go to setups since im a bank or surf fishing type guy here in north east. And so i also by the way love for light tackle fishing and always have. And always will be. So this years personal goal is to catch a 15lb bluefish here in the north east on my medium light setup and yet to do it. But i know it will before end of season. This all is because of yall. Learned so much from yall how to fish with lighter style setups. So thank you.
You're welcome!
I’m wondering what y’all’s option is on the penn battles. And which one you would use for trout and slot reds. Im on the Mississippi coast
Great all around reel. Very versatile!!
agreed ! 2500 to 3500 all the way from the kayak especially!
Thanks for the feedback!
Tried to bump up to 15 lb braid on my Fuego 2500 and it just doesn’t cast as well
I mean it makes sense if you're running braid, but I run straight flurocarbon because tieing in a leader line constantly is too much of a hastle most of the time(though I run straight braid on my 2500). A 4000 series is the perfect do all size reel if you do decide to do anything bigger. So if you're not buying a bunch of different reels and just looking for one do do it all, then just go with a 4000.
Thanks for the insight!
I forgot to mention, there was a guy somewhere on UA-cam that had about a dozen lines tied to a bar, a few were fluorocarbon, a few were mono and a few were braid, the one type of line that disappeared almost completely was fluorocarbon, braid was the most visible. Not sure if any of that means anything, but I thought it was worth mentioning. He also used 4 different colors to see which color disappeared the best, and clear was the winner.
Thanks!
Why be limited? The 5000 twin power HG is a beast and can do it all.
Thanks for the comment!
Based on this info, would it be safe to say, not only is a 1000 size reel lighter (enabling your wrist / arm not tire as easily), the 1000 size reel might be a better choice for trout fishing in extremely cold conditions, when the slowest possible retrieve is recommended... of course, slowing down your retrieve can accomplish this same slow retrieve, but as many will say - "when you think you are fishing slow, slow it down even more." With the 1000 size reel, retrieving on average 10" less than a 2500 or 3000, the 1000 will actually help prohibit you from retrieving too fast... in these winter months when the slowest possible retrieve is preferred.
In my opinion, inshore saltwater fishing for Speckled Trout, Red Fish, Etc, seems to be moving more towards freshwater bass fishing. Personally, I have started using many baits traditionally used for bass fishing, to catch Speckled Trout /Drum... That being said, just as bass fisherman have found they are catching large/jumbo size bass actually "speed cranking"... and finding success with these faster speeds/baits during winter months, when traditionally, the slower you can retrieve baits, the more success you will have. These higher speeds are actually getting a reaction bite, even when these fish are lethargic.
1000 size reel is my go to for cold weather.
With 6 pound j braid.
Ain’t no fish too big.
Watched several of your videos, looking for a budget setup spinning reel and rod for intercoastal area and backwater in Alabama. Fishing for redfish or anything else I can eat. I will use for a week and then maybe once a year in saltwater but may use in a deep lake in midwest.
What rod did you have matched with the BG 4500? It looks like an St Croix Avid Onshore.
I'm curious to know cause you have a reel that is to fast in how much line it reels in?
Please clarify your question
Would love to see what you think of the Chinese stuff. I must admit to having s few...some OK...some a bit iffy.
I went through many reels trying to go cheap. I have saved a lot of money buying a little better reel. They just don't last and the parts corrode a lot quicker.
What is the rod that's with the BG?
nice video thank you,, what do you think about daiwa maided in Vietnam? my ninja and legalis are from Vietnam
We'd love for everything to be made in the USA, but that's just not realistic today.
You get what you pay for. Buy cheap and it will only last two or three years depending how much you use it and take care of it. You pay for a better reel it will last longer and it also have better warranty.
Thanks for sharing
Ok guys i got a TFO tactical inshore 7ft medium and i was thinking on a stradic 4000 but now looking this video you recommend me a stradic 3000?
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Kast king makes good reels
What rod is that on the BG4500?
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What's wrong with a bait casting reel??
Absolutely nothing! It is just a little more of a technical application in our opinion. 💪
I’ve always used bait casting. I was looking at my one spinning reel yesterday and the monofilament was wrapped around the shaft under the spool. How does that happen? I don’t have backlashes on my bait casting reels that much.
Is it an issue running braid on smaller diameter reels with line twists/wind knots? In my mind the tighter loops on a smaller diameter spool could be an issue.
not at all, braid doesnt get really affected by line twist.
@@gabrielduarte3904 but wind knots can be a beee-otttchh lol.
can you have less bs in your video and go straight forward to the topic. Every single video on this channel is more like a commerical than a helpful fishing guide video
Give us the crazy cheap reel failure video! That would be great view and will protect us from buying it to test.
This is a college classroom and Im gonna have to watch this multiple times to let the lesson sink in.
Hi Joe and Luke - You both mentioned you used to buy a lot of 4K size reels. Nowadays the technology has gotten so good that the 4K reels are sometimes 8 oz or less. I use a MedHeavy Rods - like Pro Green and Green Water from GLoomis - really good rods and pricey. The 4K reels like the KAGE MQ seem to balance it out perfectly… Is this wrong? I still line it up w/ 10lb power pro and seem to be able to cast a mile.
I smell what you guys are selling but nobody's Buying it
The spinning reel sizing by manufacturer's is in a word, dumb. There are no standards. The sane way to pick spex on a spinner is to check the spool capacity for both braid and mono, check the retrieve ratio, check the max drag and how well it works, check the reel's weight.
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"you have to go by the specs.." OR.. hear me out.. go buy local, hold the reels, compare them.. and you wont be fooled by size conventions of different brands/models
except all the good reels you want are never in stock locally.
I think you’re missing the point here @gabrielduarte3904. He’s not talking about specs as in size and weight. He’s talking about specs as in line weight recommendation, gear ratio, line retrieval rate, etc and matching that to the type of fishing you’re doing.
$800 reel!!!! I went to tackle shop to get line on my $30 daiwa crossfire from academy and the guy almost couldn’t tell the difference between that and the daiwa procyon that they had in the store. So I even question whether a $150-$200 reel is even worth it if the pros can’t barely tell.
They have pro's working at sporting goods stores??? From my experiences the majority of guys working the fishing departments at places like Academy and Dicks are'nt knowligable. I find that doing research and/or having some prior experience with what your looking to buy is the better route. IMO, if you ask and trust the guy working in that dept. who's basically there to make a sale and does'nt know there ass from there elbow is a risk of your money.
It’s a difference between a 30 dollar reel from a 800 reel.
I should probably have worded that a little better. I wasn’t trying to compare a $30 reel to an $800 but I guess it probably seemed that way. I also wasn’t referring to the guys that work at places like academy as “pros” although with my very beginner level of fishing, they still know more than me. I’m sure you all do...
Would be great to have a video that explains all the range of spinning reels and their application.. For e.g I have a long cast meridian 7000, should I use it for surf casting only or can I use it offshore?
Long cast reels usually just has a higher (taller) spool compared to the regular version of the same model. So wanting to get that extra distance, one would use those in casting out as far as possible, like on the surf. You don't have to use it only on the surf, but having that capability is better to not use than not have and want it. 7000 on paper (not all brands have similar sized 7000s, 6000s, etc) would be good for a minimum sized for offshore. Depending on what you going for and what type of line you want.
6 lb and 10 lb damm I use that for brown trout Trolling high country lakes I use 10 for whites and stripes u would think gulf inshore would be at least 20 lb on a 4-5 k reel. ?
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[24:30 - 29:30] REEL SIZE and the Daiwa BG 4500
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The best reel is the Diawa BG 2500 I just got from you guys! Can't wait to strap it to my Fenwick HMG, Medium 7' stick
How's that Fenwick hold up?
I was lookin' @ that same rod in M and the 7" M St.Croix Avid. Theres not to much info on those HMG series rods and how they hold up fishing inshore.
Hard pressed to find a better all-around rod for $100. Early days so far but it’s been great.
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I gotta ask cause I'm torn
Ive been using several Okuma reels for years now and was curious if you guys have used any?
The cheaper Okumas Im using are the Avenger series both the original and B series in 6500 and 8000 on surf rods
One 10ft med hvy and one 11ft med hvy both rated at 1-6oz of weight ( probably overkill but too late now)
Then on an inshore rod im using a little okuma inspira 3000
Its small like the fuego and is probably one of my favorite reels.
Any experience with any of their products?
Im strongly considering going to daiwa BGs for most things
Guy on the right sure wouldn’t let that 2500/3000 comparison go geez let it go bro
I love the Daiwa BG.
Am i the only one that likes to use round baitcasters like Ambassadeurs and Calcuttas inshore? lol
Okay guys, what is your recommendation as to maintenance of reels and gear after a saltwater excursion?
what is the best reel to pair up with an 11 ft. ninja dagger surf rod; Thanks guys
I would be curious your guys thoughts on spool diameter and the casting release (where it sits on your finger). I can put a casting plug in a soup can at 120 feet with a bait caster but can't hit a barn door with a spinning rod. I saw where the smaller reels sit different on your finger due to rod angle? Would a 3000 be easier to cast in this respect?
Hey guys, what about casting distance? What features maximize casting distance? Will a long cast spool help much? I'm looking at the new Diawa Ballistic MQ LT versus the new Shimano Sustain FJ with the long cast spool - both in the 3000 size. Which one will cast further?
Longer Rod + Thinner line. LC spool cast abit farther but i personally go for lighter 3000 reel so i can cast all day. I use my spinfisher LC reels + surf rods since i need every bit of range for surf fishing then let the bait sit for a while and im not casting frequent.
And between those 2 youd pick id pick the sustain. Me personally for a 200+usd reel it shud have better material than zinc gears doesnt matter how big the gear is.
Reel sizes are not real sizes. Love that statement. Thats why people invest in a van staal. They have real reels but its going to co$t u
Interesting and insightful. Believe it or not watching this video made me rethink my reel choice for a 9’ surf spinning rod and drop down one size. It was if I knew this instinctively but wasn’t willing to accept it based on old biases. Thanks
Thanks for watching, glad it was helpful!
I caught a 25lb giant trevally on a fuego 3000 and a daiwa legalis sea bass rod 7 foot on a 40 gram jig it was a hard fight and the rod nearly broke but got the fish to the boat at the end
Line?
Hey there! Just stumbled across your UA-cam channel (and IG profile) this weekend. I'm a now-30-year-old Palm Bay, FL, native (living currently in Saint Cloud, FL, due to work) who did a ton of saltwater inshore fishing with my dad as a kid and teenager (off causeways, jettys, surf fishing, and Indian River wading/island/boating fishing)...primarily for redfish, Jack Crevalle, & Snook. For my old man's 65th birthday, I'm looking to buy him a great new rod and reel setup to get him back into the saltwater fishing spirit. Ten years ago and beyond, he was a huge Shimano + Ugly Stik fan (and, with a 17' Edgewater boat, caught many 30"+ and even 40"+ reds and Jacks...I can share pics if you want haha, just lmk)...but checking online nowadays, it seems Daiwa BG (or BG MQ) has all but dominated the mid-class inshore saltwater reel market. Based on everything I've shared so far, I'm curious what your guys' recommendation(s) would be for my dad's 65th (6/17) & Fathers' Day. Thanks a ton!!!
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i have a 20+ year old shimano sienna that i think i paid $30 for. it has been through salt and sand and every other type of hell. i have never even so much as rinsed it. works like the day it was new
I still use two Mitchell Reels for saltwater, dock fishing and wade fishing..G4000 and the AVSIV 4000…they have held up for years, a little spray with freshwater and most of these reels can last! However I do also have a BG 6500 and you really can’t beat that for tarpon and pulling giant snook from under piers! 👍 thanks for the videos guy, this helps a lot of fisherman even those who aren’t in our insider club! Thanks guys..tight lines
I just bought a Daiwa BG 4500 .. What length of spinning rod would you recommend to pair with it? To balance it out.. Thanks in advance
It depends what you're using it for?
I have caught 35 inch snook w 1000 fuego 1st day using it no problem. I love fishing small reels.
What rod do you use?
The money difference between the different sizes is nowhere's near what you're stating
I think if you do your own services you could save a hell of a lot of money i do not care for warranty cover also if they stuff it up and your reels not right you will know they did nothing to your reel service i have heard of people who have put their reels in for a service and nothing was improved after the service .
Thanks for the comment!
What rod is that BG 4500 on?
It is a St. Croix Avid Inshore. You can find that here: fishstrong.com/products/st-croix-avid-inshore-series?variant=32787359826005
Ok Joe, when you said "it's like having a 150hp on your bass boat" I laughed my a__ off. Do you want to guess what size motor I have on my bass boat?
200 or 250?
25?
i only have 1 DAIWA reel and i use it for catfishing. it is a DF100A (10000 size) spooled with 100lb braid and a 8/0 circle hook. it is comically oversized but it works for me as i have nerve damage and limited range of motion in my left hand/wrist. i have yet to lose a fish using this reel.
Thanks for the comment!
Shark fishing w cheap reels would be fun to watch and a good stress test
For me the 3000/3500 size is about comfort at that point, not necessity.
Agree
I was thinking about buying a fever mono what do you think
I’ve recently had good luck with a KastKing amazon reel, as far as cheap reels go.
Great feedback thank you!
Interesting video & lots of good info...
Just wondering... What would it take to create a spreadsheet, or some table, which would list the various characteristics of reels?
My thought is headings like this:
Manufacturer // Reel Name // Line size (range) // Line Capacity // Reel weight // Inches per full turn // any other columns that you think are relevant.
It could start with the reels listed in the fish strong store as example and insiders could submit, or add, specifications for other reels we use.
Probably need to set up a standard format for submitting data, possibly a google form feeding a google spreadsheet.
Anyone have any other thoughts?
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2500 15lb spiderwire ultracast 15lb pinke ande for leader 7ft. medium st. croix rod
BG 2500, 15lb j braid grand, 20lb Andre mono, 7’6” MH st. Croix
I choose the shimano 3000 size over the 2500 because i do a lot of bank fishing and I’m my situation the line does matter when you hooked up to a 31inch red and next you make catch a small flounder that’s how saltwater fishing is
Not that much difference in size in them reels. I love Shimanos too
For me, SoCal fishing with Phenix trifecta lite 9’ paired with a fuego LT 3000 to toss artificials with #20 braid and short flouro leader. The setup is crazy light but I could probably go to a lighter reel with what I’ve been catching😆
There's not much lower you can go than 3000 which is usually equivalent to 2500 body...you're fine.
I wish that I had seen this video before I bought the Diawa Ballistic LT 5000. I purchased this when I compared the body of this reel to the couple of others I own in the 3000 series of other brands that I own. Dont get me wrong, the Ballistic is a fantastic reel.
How has your ballistic held up? I got the 3000 fuego but I’m looking for something a little bigger for the inlet
Shamono sienna $30 reel there great very smooth drag
What rod and reel would you suggest for salmon and snapper
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The 3000 Fuego/Ballastic also gets the bigger handle, which is nice.
As an Aussie that's been through the same thing with reel sizes, I can tell you right now that for MAJORITY of the inshore fishing that I do, 2500 reels are pretty well perfect, I've caught some big fish on 2500 reels, yeah I have a couple of other sizes of reels for my inshore but the bigger size reels are either for a bigger drag to try and skull drag the stronger fish out of structure (a 4000 size) and then I also have a 12000 size but that's exclusively for when I'm trying to catch decent size bullsharks in summer. Have to know what your predominantly targeting and what you need out of the reels 👌 good video fellas 🤙
You guys put me on Daiwa and now I am never turning back. The fuego can handle big fish and the bg is a great live bait reel for pulling fish out. I have not experienced flex with the fuego. With 10 pound braid and drag set light you can’t flex it. Thanks guys!
I got 3 fuegos love them, so smooth but a jack yoinked my rod in the water lol
OMG Good stuff Guy's ,love the comparisons and the crazy differances between makes and even Models of same brand ,Thanks for that..,Also never and I mean Never Apologize for Dumb and Dummer References LOL Great Movie.,,, and third I really think the over seas market should be exposed for the junk they try to pass off as economical... Peace
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So what is the Tarpon Reel you were talking about? I dont do much Tarpon but I do enjoy Cobia fishing in the Spring. I currently use a 5000 Penn Battle
which I absolutly love but I am open to trying something new.
What rod is matched with the BG4500 for tarpon.
Looks like a st Croix avid rod. Not sure what length or power. I only know because I use a 7' ML avid for inshore and absolutely love it. They are fantastic rods.
Gear ration to spool diameter is not true ,actually it’s the gear ration to the rotor arc or space between rotor arms which accomodate the right spool diameter. ie having a smaller spool dia would take same line retrieval of the bigger one in the same reel. rotor arc justify bigger/small spool diameter.
In the North East we use all different size rillas and certainly four thousands
I payed $60 for first penn feris you can touch one under $150?? What 😯 there allso much money. My surf reels are okuma bait runners great getting old still working great
Thanks for the feedback!
Hi guys.. always good content. Can you make a video on budget rods like (daiwa D wave…sweepfire…shimano FX… even the GX2 ugly stick.. etc..etc) thanks in advance.
No need to spend more than a hundred buck$ to get a very good reel such as a Shimano Sedona, Penn Pursuit, Daiwa BG, etc.
We agree! There are some great ones out there in that price point!
Thnx Luke & Joe ! ,
Maybe Mexico or Honduras or El Salvador ( poorer countries ) can have a chance to build some of your product ideas ,,, Manufacturing & Shipping Issues may be less problematic than having SE Asia to make & ship these these needed peoducts ,,, ( help consistency ) ,,, God Bless U & Ur Families 🐟🕊✨
Thanks for the feedback and for the support!
I've seen, more than once, a fishing rod vanish off a boat deck... at light speed. Drop a $800 reel plus a $700 rod (??) off a boat... in the deep water... I'm going to learn to cry.
It happens...and it is heartbreaking!
Like most videos there are so Mannnny yahoos and wish they were. You guys rank up there with the few I can tell that know there sh1t.
Although a great video, I didnt see where you discussed the "Specs" for the different applications...line capacity for certain applications being my current question. I'm upgrading my equipment including a (2) 40 year old diawa bg 2500s that i just took to the surf for the first time in 20 years. still going stong but almost out of line after casting and setting in rod holder. You modern BG review was helpful.
If you see this, post a link to any advice. Untill then I will keep searching with "salt strong" added to my query.
Thanks - check out the post here for more info: bit.ly/2Vh9kpI
Hy . Im kinda new to salt strong and I fish in south Africa so I know it's not always the same . I just want to know on your bg do you go higher than 30lb braid and if you do for what type of fish
On my 7 ft and 6/4 rods I put a 3000 or a 3500 snd on my 7/6 or 8 foot I shore rods I use a 4000 size reel
We usually go fishing at a river mouth/mangrove delta system for Snook and Tarpon. The snooks are usually in the 2-3lb sizes but the tarpons can get up to 40lb+, but generally under 20lbs. What size reel and line test would you recommend? I usually use 3000 and 4000 size penn or shimano reels with 20lb - 40lb braided line. Thank you.
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Ok, off topic, but jeez I dodged a bullet when I was buying by first bigbait casting reel for pike. First I was smart enough to get the left-hand retrieve (which is how 99% of anglers cast in Latvia, but globally it’s the opposite), but also I tested the reel same day and realized I needed the highest 8.1:1 gear ratio! Took the line off, dried the reel, got to the shop on Friday night, last hour and got it replaced. Wheew 😅
Thanks for sharing!
I just wanna know if I can put my 4000 size reel on my tsunami slime wave
I’ve caught big 20-30 lbs black drum on a 3000 Daiwa emcast Baitrunner and 30 lb braid.
But it really depends on the style of fishing you’re doing.
Really close to shore you can probably get the job done with 1000-3000 series reel 10-15 lb braid or mono.
If you wanna really get your bait out there, you’re gonna have to get a heavy power surf rod, and something with a lot of line like a shimano Baitrunner , or a okuma coronado, and generally 50lbs of braid atleast to withstand the weight of the bait and the weight of the lead.
I generally run with a 6’ 6 to 7’2 rod medium light with a 2000 series reel 7-12 lbs of drag strength and 10-15 lb. Just to catch sheepshead, small baitfish, small drum, even trout. The emcast is good because it doesn’t take much line to fill the spool, and it comes with two spools, I have mono on one and braid in the other.
And I generally use my surf rods for anything bigger
Thanks for the insight!
I am in my 50's. I have fished all my life with never spending over 60.00 for a rod and real combined price. And I have caught everything from minnow shiners to 7ft hammerhead. Apparently this video is a video for new upcoming tournament guys.
Whatever works for you!
Looking at my first inshore combo , I got a hold of a kastking pedigree II 7’6” medium heavy rod, and a Penn pursuit Iv 2500 , which seems to favorably compare to the Diawa fuego 3000 , is this gonna be too light a real for SC coastal inshore waters? To long a rod ? Should I go up to the 4000 size reel?
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In shore and beach the fish are not that big how many 20 lb fish u really catching ? I e went down to 1500 and 300 type reels Long cast bigger reels for running fish and line capacity
Guess it depends on where you are!
Yeah. I’m an ultralight junky.
50 inch redfish vs Daiwa ballistic 1000 and 6 pound j braid?
No problem.
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Sorry but I disagree with the concept THE BEST inshore rod. We each fish differently and thus look for different things in rod when choosing one. What I like, you might not & vice versa
Thats why the title of the video says "the best for you".
i enjoy light reels as much as anybody else but i find they twist and flex on the big ones. i bite the bullet and always go with aluminum bodied reels. they can be 2500's or 3000's but metal. i find the daiwa bg series the best buy for smoothness and strength out there.
Thanks for the input
Using 1000s reel but load with line 100m is it okay?
Yes my tsunami shield is a 4000 but it’s like a 3500 or a 3000 size reel
Which rod you recommend for shimano tranx 401.
Land base shore fishing.
So informative but the dumb and dumber parts take the cake on this video. Much love guys and tight lines 🎣
Thanks for watching!
What feels good in your hands and size of fish and lures you are fishing for
Hey guys awesome video and very helpful - just wondering how do the amount of bearing effect the reel? Is it worth paying for more in you reel?
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