I hope you guys enjoyed this crazy build! It's been a wild journey trying to get this video released - firstly with the delays caused by the ideas that didn't work, and then ultimately by a HARD DRIVE FAILURE! Literally ALL the footage in this video was lost, and it was only thanks to some great data recovery fellows that you're seeing this at all. Backup system implemented now, fyi ;) because of these delays, this is actually quite an old video now (like 1 year) but I'm glad it's able to see the light of day as I think the final result is SUPER COOL! In hind sight I may not have started this project of perseverance, but it taught me such a lot in terms of which projects to make to show you guys and how experimental I can ultimately risk being. I know that basically none of you will make this, but the methodology ultimately settled upon is interesting and might have many more use cases. Either way it makes for interesting watching, so I hope you all enjoy it! ~Matt FAQs: How much power does the final unit use? A: About 10w at full tilt, which is pretty efficient! Why is it so big? A: Just needed to make it large so that it moves enough air to be useful. Ask away if you have any more questions :)
Not sure if the video was filmed 1 year ago but if you want to measure the speed of the fluid there are several cheap ways to do it. Anyway, you measured the capacity to pull air out but that's only a half a cycle so the performance should be halved.
I can't believe this is a real video. it's like I'm having a really specific dream. you're making a totally silent air cooling method, something I often think about, but you're not even doing it in any kind of conventional way, and you're making it so clean and precise, and it all came together too well. my brain doesn't even know if it believes this is a real DIY project yet. you just made a modern bellows. like, that's so weird. I can't believe what I'm looking at. awesome
this is so incredibly overly complicated for no reason. but its gets views and is different, so cool i guess. some simple problems i noticed... requires an air seal(will wear out), way to many parts (i realize its a prototype but still), the back and forth motion wastes energy, its probably less efficient or maybe similar(energy use) as the fan, dirt/dust mainteneance -_-, you put it in foam to reduce noise(yet didnt try to reduce fan noise), you could make the same things without all the pumps and stuff by just using an electric motor or 2 and belts.
I was going to say something very similar. His engineering is on point, to the point at which his talents seem wasted on UA-cam when he might be able to make something that could be a game changer for humanity with those skills.
I have a few thoughts regarding your linear motor design: - You were on the right track with your coil spacing. With a 3 phase design, the distance between the centers of coil 1 and 3 needs to be equal to the distance between the centers of two magnets. - You have to use a low frequency, because the motor is a synchronous design. The speed of the coils is proportional to the driving frequency. - With low frequency, you have to use coils with ALOT more windings. The inductive part of the coil should be around 8-10x higher than the resistive part of the coil (At the driving frequency). Note that the inductance grows with the square of the number of windings. - Make the spacers between the coil out of material with high permeability, such as Iron. Stacked large washers should do the trick. Also, add equal sized washer stacks at the end of the coils. - Enclose the coils with the washer stacks in an iron tube, with an inner diameter equal to the washers out diameter. - If you want to take this to the next level, use more than 3 phases, like 7 or 9. If you don't want use washers and an iron tube, you could make your own "ferrite", by mixing iron powder with epoxy and casting it into the appropriate shape.
Nchlh Khfif well, actually coils are more like low pass filters, as the voltage across them is proportional to the rate of change in current running through them.
@@nchlhkhfif3143 the signal corresponds to the magnetic field, each oscillation of the signal will correspond to a movement to the next magnet, so the frequency will be low because magnets are large and we want to go slow
@Bennet Should the coil spacing be as you described, or a little narrower? Something tells me the first coil should be at point 0, second coil at 1/3 distance and third coil at 2/3 distance between poles - so it matches up 0 / 120 / 240 degree phases
I've watched your videos for the last years an I have to say: This one is really on an whole other level! Besides the fan being of no "real world use", the craftmenship and knowledge, that went into this really amaze me. And the final product looks fantastic! Like it got right out of a scifi movie :) Big thumbs up, I can't imagine, how much time went into this!!!
Imagine pulling a vaccuum in the chamber and turning this thing on. Zero air resistance = the thing would probably move so quickly it'd shake itself apart!
Matt was so genuinely happy and excited, that it gave me same feeling of proudness and happiness of us all as community. I'm just so happy i watched this content. You take a little bit more time than other youtubers but your content is just crafted with way more love, and is clearly not made for monetization solely. English is not my native language so bear with me. Thanks !
It's solely ;) solly, even with no knowledge of English your auto-correction should've warned you if it was on. Perhaps my advice can help you, better switch it on :) but overall your English is very good! (not my native either)
The problem with your motor is that you're using a "AC" sine wave, the only reason it was working is because it wouldn't have been getting a pure AC sine wave but rather a choppy square shaped sine wave. If you want it to work pull apart a cheap DC brushless motor (Battery Drill), keep 3 coils at 120 degree spacing as so there will be one directly on top of a magnets pole and another at the furthest most point from it, all equally spaced. Run it from the DC brushless controller with correct winding conductor size, this will allow it to have a higher load and the controller will sense when one pole gets induction from a coming magnet, will turn the opposing coil off and the new coil on to pull it in the right direction at incredibly high efficiency. At the ends of your fan keep the reed switch but you will probably have to connect it to a relay, preferably a SSD relay and it will have to be a DPDT, this will allow you to toggle the motor direction by swapping the poles, depending on how your drill/motor controls it, if it's mechanical as some are it may be harder.
Motor coils are fine with choppy sine waves as long as the chop speed is fast enough. I think more likely the waveform wasn't matching very well the magnetic geometry involved - that is to say, sine wave wasn't the correct wave to use.
I may be wrong here but overtime wouldn't the solenoids change the polarity or at least weaken the magnets a bit? It almost looks like it would act as an old Magnetizer box.
I'm a mechanical engineer with a background in physics and I work in cutting edge 3D Printing research, but I found this project to be massively impressive for a DIY channel!
@bronzedeuce that because I'm exposed to cutting edge research and technology, the level of science he applies still impresses me? Maybe I should've worded it this way for ease of interpretation.
I'm curious if he found a way to mount the hardware to the Bellow it self. How it would work and how it would cool. Maybe design it like a sandwich style. Mobo on one side and gpu on the other. Cool experience to watch him go through though.
If he wanted to use bellows and be quiet, he could copy an accordion bellows. Probably more efficient too, because no leakage. But don't get me wrong, it's a great way to build a very smooth, very quiet, very low friction low pressure hydro-pneumatic cylinder! (Trading high fluid pressure at low flow for low air pressure at high flow)
not even gonna lie. the result gave me goosebumps and your reaction wasn’t overreacting at all. you’re really talented my guy. loved the vido from start till the end. amazing really!
@@gavinhicks7621 a full maglev has either a traditional lower repeller magnet layer in the bottom of the guide way (track) to "push" the train up or an attractor layer that wraps up and over a part of the car to pull the train up (see the Transrapid design out of Berlin). All maglev designs have some form of LSM, like in this video for locomotion. Musk's Hyperloop is a hybrid tube system, mostly copied from traditional designs but with only the LSM... and only in spots where acceleration or deceleration are needed. He's mostly using tube dynamics to use an air cushion to float the train, instead of magnets, and coasting for most of the distance to achieve an 800 mph top cruising speed. So, technically not a "maglev" but similar.
The linear motor needs a ferromagnetic core around the windings, preferably with some sort of lamination. Do this with iron powder and epoxy for convenience and low eddy current losses. ~One Engineer
@@BankruptGreek electromagnets without cores are crap. The current through the coil magnetizes the core. The core can increase the magnetic field and inductance of a coil by hundreds or thousands of times.
If there's ever a slipping issue with the magnet in the center tube, you could try replacing it with a longer magnet for a larger tolerance. Looks solid though so I don't think that'll be an issue, love this, and it's actually really inspiring to see how excited you get :>.
When it worked and you said "I might be overreacting", you definitely weren't , because I was clapping in excitement just as well. Cheers, and well done. Very quirky project
if there was a way to mount the pc components to the bellow slide in the middle you would be able to use the fan itself as the pc enclosure and cool it at the same time with the movement alone, the air getting pushed out would be the warm air from the pc components being removed as well as cool air being pulled in to cool the components simultaneously. this could be a huge advancement in pc cooling tech if done right!
hi, a bit late to comment but air being compressible, the last centimeters of your air pump are crucial if you want to ramp up your output. Try to minimize them as much as you can since the trapped air is at its maximum compression (aka most air per volume...). great build.
^ this. It pained me to see that wasted potential. Not hard to upgrade however. Two sheets of material placed at both end points of the mover's travel with holes cut out for the rails and the air in/out holes then fix some ducts between that inner chamber wall and the existing outer.
Mate this is fantastic! Regarding the linear motor, you should contact the UA-camr ElectroBoom. He’s an electrical engineer who makes contraptions like this. It would be a great collab!
22:08 You can make the video as long as you want/need to and I'll watch it, no questions asked. (I'll watch is multiple times probably) This was awesome.
4:00 to get the phase of the coils right, what you want to do is attach them to an oscilloscope or ADC and _record_ the waveform produced by you manually pushing the coils smoothly along the rod. Then you can either work out what the phase offsets are from those waveforms, or even play the recorded waveforms back exactly in order to get perfectly smooth motion.
4:05 - This is really cool and you almost had it! I think you're basically using quadrature encoded signal to move the coils in which case you should only need 2 coils instead of 3, space the magnets so the spacing is equal to the length of the magnets themselves, and space the coils so they're half the length of the magnets. The smoothness of the motion will depend on the length of the magnets. I'd love to see it work!
@@michaelharris679 Back EMF is the quick and dirty way of driving the linear motor. However, because of the rapid change in direction, a back EMF could cause stuttering as it only approximates the position. Something like a hall effect sensor could perform better, but testing is definitely needed.
You, Sir are to be throughly congratulated. I'm by no means an expert in hydraulics or magnatronics, but I know enough to realise that this project was by no means flippant. You have literally re-engineered a technology that is thousands of years old. Bloody Well Done 👏
Actually a nylon MESH prefilter + G3 (or G4) + F6 ( F7) is a more economical solution. HEPA limit the airflow a lot. Though THIS thing might work with HEPA! well enough!
Giorgos MRTS-TRX not so much anymore.... HEPA’s are made today with very little resistance. So much so the design of bsc’s have had to be changed to address to problem caused.
well for this to work the air intake cannot be the same as the exhaust which would probably mean engineering a one way air valve system and a different hole for air intake or vice versa
@@petrosdimitriospilichos9195 It can run in as much power as the coupled magnets can handle Might not be the greatest efficiency, but it will get the job done
I love your attitude towards your work. With these troubled times we are all facing, my children and I are giving a few of your past projects a go. I’ll keep you posted. Wish me luck.
I think a bellows system has more potential than this video might imply. Being able to create a vacuum and more pressure can give a strong enough linear induction motor a lot of opportunity for torque in comparison to a fan which only ever operates at atmospheric pressure,(you can put more torque on a denser fluid) .The pump system worked well but isn't likely going to be as strong as another method. I'm glad someone else thought of this!! Awesome video!
This is so fascinating. The mechanics alone are so damn cool. Not to mention a bit of cheeky making your own SILENT solenoid valves. The idea alone of having an alternating water flow move a magnet who's magnetic field is attached to another magnet moving the plates of plastic is ingenious.
The excitement displayed at the point of his success is simultaneously fantastic and ridiculous. Fantastic because it is completely genuine. Ridiculous due to his undeniably tremendous skillset! A skillset that includes the IMAGINATION to consider this project. His VISUALIZATION of this mechanism prior to building it. Having the SKILLS/KNOWLEDGE to build it. His PERSEVERANCE in correcting his initial mistakes. The GUTS to post it knowing nobody (or very few) will follow his lead in building this mechanism. And finally, the FORESIGHT to post this video knowing others will learn from the various lessons displayed and utilize them elsewhere! Bravo!
I have a fascinating idea, what about your “Fan” integrated into a “Wind Chest” for a Pipe organ? It would be quieter, highly durable, ?consistant? - Roll the idea around in your head. Look up original pipe organs… fan to feed a bellows wind chest. Emil me what you think as an experimental technology.
@@sirsanti8408 Yeah, but this video is getting the air to move using water, while conventional water coolers use water to transfer heat and air to exhaust. The bellows Matt made is bloody power efficient, but not size efficient.
Thank you for posting a "Failure" where you don't get the results you want or expected. It's nice to see innovation and experimentation just for the sake of it.
The other projects he's built he knew how how to do it with electronics, this one was an experiment, he was learning along the way, which is why he couldn't contain his excitement when the project finally worked the way he wanted it too ;)
I've been trying to find a replacement ventilator for my wife's, since they're "phasing them out" in favor of their newer smaller units -- but hers is the only one that works for her [that we've found so far]. Hers uses a bellows with the diaphragm running on a ball-screw. New ones use turbines, micropistons, or other technology, and each have some serious issue that messes up her life, and will likely shorten it.
I totally agree! Just on aesthetics and novelty alone it hands down defeats the bank of fans. Add a bit of LED magic and well.... that would really be amazing and I think with a bit of more improvement on the design I believe it would actually outperform the fans
@@lemau8458 204 people that proved you wrong: didn't ask because it's a _comment_ section and not a _speak only when told to speak_ section, but still laughed.
I've seen the completed build and I'm in awe that this actually took you more than a year to complete thanks to the issues you had to face before and after posting this video. While for many, it's considered inefficient use of time and money, it's an innovation of trying things no company is willing to take, and will greatly help people who would want to try the same project in the future.
companies don't do this because outside of doing it as a hobby, you don't realize bad designs. They would consider the design, come up with a lot of reasons why this is worse than just using a large (=silent) fan, and not build it.
Wow. Really impressed with the amount of ingenuity, novelty and parts selection. This could possibly be marketed successfully. I reckon organ players who are after quieter bellows would be the first to rush and buy it. Also, I would think some people would prefer it to a fan both in terms of the novelty as well as the noise factor. A large fan in the living room is somewhat unsightly. I can see a few variations and improvements possible. By using curved vents on each exit one can have air-flow being directed in a single direction rather two opposed directions, instantly making it a candidate for a cooling fan substitute. Some people might like the oscillating air flow but if a more constant flow is desired, the enclosure can be separated into multiple smaller chambers with independent pistons being driven at different phases so as to produce a constant combined air-flow at the exit. The performance improvement could be a simple matter of increasing pump power (or in this case, the number of chained pumps). An alternative use would be that of a very silent, mild damper which would be quite bulky but would retain the novelty factor
@@ItsJabaCast No, a very large pile of cocaine sold for 100,000. That pile of cocaine just happened to be hidden inside a wall with a banana taped to it.
@@sejmroz7355 You are missing the whole point of the video. And since you're so smart: 1) do the calculatiins on the airflow on his cabinet 2) do a calculation on the max speed he can achieve on his pump. 3) Make the calculation on cooling effiency on a water cooling system, compared to air. An even better solution than yours, is to use running tap water, from a cooling perspective.
Adding a computer to that: Add a radiator to one side of the case, when the panel moves causes the air to flow trought it as fans do. Using the water cooler pump to circulate water on the whole sistem(can it handle that much?).
That's why I find the sound of this below extremely uncomfortable... Yet it's a brilliantly executed project, and the linear switching valve is really an interesting idea
You just picked up a subscriber. Extremely impressive. Even though it's massively impractical, overdesigned, and expensive...I would totally rock this in my rig. It's just too freaking cool. I hope you get this working well enough to keep your rig set up with this 100% of the time. It would make for the dopest conversation piece for us Engineery-type guys.
People are constantly trying to make silent fans. Ceiling fans are different mostly because of scale and purpose. They aren't drawing cool air in or anything, they're helping the air flow
Ceiling fans are silent because of their size, this allows you to run them at a much lower rpm, making less noise. Computer fans for example are small so to get the same airflow you need much more rpm to get the same airflow. Yes you could make a massive computer fan running at a very low rpm but the size will be just immense.
HA... he isn't even in the deep dark part of an engineering project yet. He was reaching it when he hit his first mental block... if you push an engineer hard enough and long enough, they invent the ability to fly by thought. LOL (Insert the story of why Archimedes ran NAKED down the street exclaiming "Eureka, I found it!" )
I think my favorite part of this is that in the process of trying to reinvent the fan to cool a PC, he builds a high-end custom water-cooling loop 3 different times.....
I hope you guys enjoyed this crazy build! It's been a wild journey trying to get this video released - firstly with the delays caused by the ideas that didn't work, and then ultimately by a HARD DRIVE FAILURE! Literally ALL the footage in this video was lost, and it was only thanks to some great data recovery fellows that you're seeing this at all. Backup system implemented now, fyi ;) because of these delays, this is actually quite an old video now (like 1 year) but I'm glad it's able to see the light of day as I think the final result is SUPER COOL! In hind sight I may not have started this project of perseverance, but it taught me such a lot in terms of which projects to make to show you guys and how experimental I can ultimately risk being. I know that basically none of you will make this, but the methodology ultimately settled upon is interesting and might have many more use cases. Either way it makes for interesting watching, so I hope you all enjoy it! ~Matt
FAQs:
How much power does the final unit use?
A: About 10w at full tilt, which is pretty efficient!
Why is it so big?
A: Just needed to make it large so that it moves enough air to be useful.
Ask away if you have any more questions :)
Hey man, use silent MOSFETs not a relay
"to be useful" lol
Not sure if the video was filmed 1 year ago but if you want to measure the speed of the fluid there are several cheap ways to do it. Anyway, you measured the capacity to pull air out but that's only a half a cycle so the performance should be halved.
Hi matt, a good use of this would be to intrgrate it to the tv wall, might help with sound waves?
Is it weird to say I’m proud of you? I’m proud of you! Ahahaha. What a monstrous endeavor
I can't believe this is a real video. it's like I'm having a really specific dream. you're making a totally silent air cooling method, something I often think about, but you're not even doing it in any kind of conventional way, and you're making it so clean and precise, and it all came together too well. my brain doesn't even know if it believes this is a real DIY project yet. you just made a modern bellows. like, that's so weird. I can't believe what I'm looking at. awesome
I love you DeSinc please make a half life alyx video
Did not expect to see you here
@@namelessbritton6915 neither did i
this is so incredibly overly complicated for no reason. but its gets views and is different, so cool i guess.
some simple problems i noticed...
requires an air seal(will wear out), way to many parts (i realize its a prototype but still), the back and forth motion wastes energy, its probably less efficient or maybe similar(energy use) as the fan, dirt/dust mainteneance -_-, you put it in foam to reduce noise(yet didnt try to reduce fan noise), you could make the same things without all the pumps and stuff by just using an electric motor or 2 and belts.
@@bobedwards8896 did you actually watch the video?
This is a really neat fan, but my favorite part was seeing how happy he got when it finally worked. There's nothing like the joy of solving a problem.
hahaha, exactly - the look of excitement on his face...priceless :D ....also, outstanding concept and implementation of the "fan".
Absolutely. I admire people like myself who are so passionate about what they do :) I'm so happy to see him so happy.
At 15:18 we finally we got to see this side of him that he's hidden from us this long.
Same
"nice pc, is it air or water cooled?"
"it's windshield wiper cooled"
hydraulicly powered windshield wipers mind you!
Well magnets can destroy it though
@@kush5749 true for a lot of electronics
nice pfp its super cool
Lol what does a comercial product would look like if it were to be marketed
This guy might be the most underrated genius on UA-cam....I mean literally genius.
Agreed
Considering they're both from the UK. I'd suggest that this is the quiet and brilliant older brother of Colin Furze.
Agree!!
I was going to say something very similar. His engineering is on point, to the point at which his talents seem wasted on UA-cam when he might be able to make something that could be a game changer for humanity with those skills.
When he screamed "Yes! Yes! Look at that!" I immediately thought that he's just like an incredible inventor of old.
I don't think I've ever been more proud of a UA-camr accomplishing something lol great job bro. Priceless reaction!
the reaction was amazing
It's a pretty good and interesting machine indeed, great job!!!
Good effort!
His reaction was so great, it practically made me want to build one for myself!
I have never in my life seen a Brit more excited than at 15:20.
I have a few thoughts regarding your linear motor design:
- You were on the right track with your coil spacing. With a 3 phase design, the distance between the centers of coil 1 and 3 needs to be equal to the distance between the centers of two magnets.
- You have to use a low frequency, because the motor is a synchronous design. The speed of the coils is proportional to the driving frequency.
- With low frequency, you have to use coils with ALOT more windings. The inductive part of the coil should be around 8-10x higher than the resistive part of the coil (At the driving frequency). Note that the inductance grows with the square of the number of windings.
- Make the spacers between the coil out of material with high permeability, such as Iron. Stacked large washers should do the trick. Also, add equal sized washer stacks at the end of the coils.
- Enclose the coils with the washer stacks in an iron tube, with an inner diameter equal to the washers out diameter.
- If you want to take this to the next level, use more than 3 phases, like 7 or 9.
If you don't want use washers and an iron tube, you could make your own "ferrite", by mixing iron powder with epoxy and casting it into the appropriate shape.
Small question, aren't coils supposed to be high pass filters because the output voltage is L*2pi*n*i(t)? so why use low frequencies
Nchlh Khfif well, actually coils are more like low pass filters, as the voltage across them is proportional to the rate of change in current running through them.
@@nchlhkhfif3143 the signal corresponds to the magnetic field, each oscillation of the signal will correspond to a movement to the next magnet, so the frequency will be low because magnets are large and we want to go slow
@Bennet Should the coil spacing be as you described, or a little narrower? Something tells me the first coil should be at point 0, second coil at 1/3 distance and third coil at 2/3 distance between poles - so it matches up 0 / 120 / 240 degree phases
I can't understand anything lol
If I ever need a replacement lung, this is the man to see.
Aaron Lowe you mean a quarter of a lung
@@6680724 wow, is that all this thing achieves? The human body really is incredible.
He'll build you a water cooled turbo lung for you my man.
@@benzykaram overclocked it too
You’ll have a torso the size of a tank turret by the end of your surgery
"what's that thing on the side of your PC?"
"a lung"
Nobody: asked or laughed
@@lemau8458 what a bundle of fun you are
@@cdgonepotatoes4219 he's a wooosh farmer, so he probably tries to get r/woooshed on purpose.
@@anonymouspersonthefake he clearly got the joke, but instead of leaving me and my bad jokes he had to go out of his way to say it wad a bad joke.
@@cdgonepotatoes4219 yes exactly i bet he goes on rule 34 posts and tells himself he does it ironically to feel not horny
I've watched your videos for the last years an I have to say: This one is really on an whole other level! Besides the fan being of no "real world use", the craftmenship and knowledge, that went into this really amaze me. And the final product looks fantastic! Like it got right out of a scifi movie :)
Big thumbs up, I can't imagine, how much time went into this!!!
I cant help but look at it as a very quiet air purifier.
agreed
Its really impressive what he did there.
Looks like a simple ventilator to me...
@@BillyWhitehouse Perfect time to be creating simpler ones of those!
Legit coolest thing I've seen on youtube in awhile. The way the whole platter moved with the magnet in the tube.... GENIUS!
haha he said coolest
15:17 Just the pure joy on his face when it works is amazing. Go you
ngl he looks kinda like the poggers meme
that "thing" is so satisfying to watch, would've loved to see it filled with smoke to show the air flow
A great screensaver
Imagine pulling a vaccuum in the chamber and turning this thing on. Zero air resistance = the thing would probably move so quickly it'd shake itself apart!
@@WafflesASAP then how it would move the air?
Matt was so genuinely happy and excited, that it gave me same feeling of proudness and happiness of us all as community. I'm just so happy i watched this content. You take a little bit more time than other youtubers but your content is just crafted with way more love, and is clearly not made for monetization solely. English is not my native language so bear with me. Thanks !
It's solely ;) solly, even with no knowledge of English your auto-correction should've warned you if it was on. Perhaps my advice can help you, better switch it on :) but overall your English is very good! (not my native either)
@@g60force Douche bag alert!
@@g60force thanks
The problem with your motor is that you're using a "AC" sine wave, the only reason it was working is because it wouldn't have been getting a pure AC sine wave but rather a choppy square shaped sine wave. If you want it to work pull apart a cheap DC brushless motor (Battery Drill), keep 3 coils at 120 degree spacing as so there will be one directly on top of a magnets pole and another at the furthest most point from it, all equally spaced. Run it from the DC brushless controller with correct winding conductor size, this will allow it to have a higher load and the controller will sense when one pole gets induction from a coming magnet, will turn the opposing coil off and the new coil on to pull it in the right direction at incredibly high efficiency. At the ends of your fan keep the reed switch but you will probably have to connect it to a relay, preferably a SSD relay and it will have to be a DPDT, this will allow you to toggle the motor direction by swapping the poles, depending on how your drill/motor controls it, if it's mechanical as some are it may be harder.
I don't understand anything you're saying, but I aggree with you completely.
Motor coils are fine with choppy sine waves as long as the chop speed is fast enough. I think more likely the waveform wasn't matching very well the magnetic geometry involved - that is to say, sine wave wasn't the correct wave to use.
I may be wrong here but overtime wouldn't the solenoids change the polarity or at least weaken the magnets a bit? It almost looks like it would act as an old Magnetizer box.
15:16 he's adorable, he turned into a
5 y/o, so cool to se a man being so excited about something♥️
His face of joy as soon as it started working was just priceless
TBH i could only see his face and happyness from the result. :D
"The world's weirdest fan"
that is no way to talk about someone that genuinely admires your work.
I see what you did there
Lol
ha.
This is incredibly impractical and from a engineering perspective, but I think that's why I like it.
honestly: this thing would win any style competition on a nerd convention.
I'm a mechanical engineer with a background in physics and I work in cutting edge 3D Printing research, but I found this project to be massively impressive for a DIY channel!
yes, hes a badass lol.
Can you help him with the magnet idea?
this isnt a diy channel it's a build a rocket out of a broken laptop channel
@bronzedeuce that because I'm exposed to cutting edge research and technology, the level of science he applies still impresses me? Maybe I should've worded it this way for ease of interpretation.
@bronzedeuce hundreds of others did seem to interpret it the way you did. Maybe you're special?
You know what? I’m just gonna suffer through another square space add just for this man. He deserves it for making this video.
It's the absolute exemple of how the act of trying has beauty in it.
YES
so many of these comments are acting like this was a complete, practical product
no, it isn't. But it doesn't need to be, for this to be amazing.
Perfect English.
As a practical solution it's insane. As a piece of art, it's a masterpiece. I love it.
"So what cooling do you use for your pc?"
"Giant Novelty Bellows."
That's to be remembered.
*Buys a lot of water cooling components*
"Oh cool, you're water cooling your pc?"
"Huh?.. No, this is for my bellows"
Watch Light heck the fan looks like a pc case! XD
I'm curious if he found a way to mount the hardware to the Bellow it self. How it would work and how it would cool. Maybe design it like a sandwich style. Mobo on one side and gpu on the other. Cool experience to watch him go through though.
I don't know why he calls it a bellows. It's a pneumatic cylinder.
If he wanted to use bellows and be quiet, he could copy an accordion bellows. Probably more efficient too, because no leakage.
But don't get me wrong, it's a great way to build a very smooth, very quiet, very low friction low pressure hydro-pneumatic cylinder! (Trading high fluid pressure at low flow for low air pressure at high flow)
It's simply fascinating to watch someone as bright as this man making great projects with such excellent results.
Here you can see a man go mad in quarantine
If this is mad I am all for it :D
he is mad scientist, it so cool. SOB
X3
@@9LiveEmpire it's calling an Engineer :)
😅
@@9LiveEmpire El Psy Congroo
"I dont have proper equipment so I have used bags"
says the man who built a whole different fan 😂
CFM testing equipment is a different video for a different day :P
Wouldn't be surprised since building those things cost a lot too. 😹
Lol because he used all his supplies on this 🤣
James Dyson reportedly furious that someone’s made a more complicated and expensive fan than his.
That's funny cause it's true.
And his "fan" is actually bladeless.
@@zachcrawford5 His fan uses impellers in the pumps like Dyson uses impellers in the base.
@@PTNentertainment no matter how hard we try, can't escape spinny things. There just so damn useful.
Think almost exactly this in my head. Scroll down; Bahaha! You're so right though.
11:35 me at a stoplight looking up at the truck driver next to me
lmao
😅😂😂
You got me wheeezing 😂
thanks for that. you made me lol
lmfooooooo
not even gonna lie. the result gave me goosebumps and your reaction wasn’t overreacting at all. you’re really talented my guy. loved the vido from start till the end. amazing really!
"These are fun projects that you can do at home! So today we're building a linear induction motor, and next week we'll build our own maglev train."
legit he could probably make a maglev model train
I forget is maglev just straight up floating or is that when it’s inside of a tube because the tube thing isn’t too difficult to create
Hes a hell of a innovator!
first thing first, buy a Hell lots of magnet....
@@gavinhicks7621 a full maglev has either a traditional lower repeller magnet layer in the bottom of the guide way (track) to "push" the train up or an attractor layer that wraps up and over a part of the car to pull the train up (see the Transrapid design out of Berlin). All maglev designs have some form of LSM, like in this video for locomotion. Musk's Hyperloop is a hybrid tube system, mostly copied from traditional designs but with only the LSM... and only in spots where acceleration or deceleration are needed. He's mostly using tube dynamics to use an air cushion to float the train, instead of magnets, and coasting for most of the distance to achieve an 800 mph top cruising speed. So, technically not a "maglev" but similar.
The linear motor needs a ferromagnetic core around the windings, preferably with some sort of lamination. Do this with iron powder and epoxy for convenience and low eddy current losses.
~One Engineer
Yea, the coupling of the fields isn't tight enough. Thinner tube and core would help.
Damn y'all smart
@@t0kinl3lunts electric engineer student in second year, I have no idea what you two are on about xD
@@BankruptGreek electromagnets without cores are crap. The current through the coil magnetizes the core. The core can increase the magnetic field and inductance of a coil by hundreds or thousands of times.
I think he is needlessly reinventing the bellow too. Just have 2, each with a single electromagnet and a few cm of motion.
Wow that was the sweetest display of pure joy I’ve seen in a while :)
Exactly! It was awesome to see the pure, unadulterated display of his excitement.
yeah that was great to see :)
"Are you ready for this?" I was not! The way Matt designs things is absolutely awesome and waaay out of the box. Keep it up!
I thought the stuff was inside the box?
For the first time in modern history of mankind I watched the whole sponsored part in your video, that's how much I liked your project.
yeah me too i was like great... skillshare but then i was like eh ill watch it
There's no way i'm ever going to build this myself, but this is exactly why i am subscribed!
heh, same
Yep me too
@Obi Dark bullshit! You can afford everything! You just don't want to.
@@mitrushka95 I dont have any money. you gonna send me some so i can build it?
same
If there's ever a slipping issue with the magnet in the center tube, you could try replacing it with a longer magnet for a larger tolerance. Looks solid though so I don't think that'll be an issue, love this, and it's actually really inspiring to see how excited you get :>.
When it worked and you said "I might be overreacting", you definitely weren't , because I was clapping in excitement just as well. Cheers, and well done. Very quirky project
Amazing project indeed! I hope to God he copyright's his design and is able to create a marketable product!
if there was a way to mount the pc components to the bellow slide in the middle you would be able to use the fan itself as the pc enclosure and cool it at the same time with the movement alone, the air getting pushed out would be the warm air from the pc components being removed as well as cool air being pulled in to cool the components simultaneously. this could be a huge advancement in pc cooling tech if done right!
I had the same reaction
@r.i.p george I think you might be onto something
hi, a bit late to comment but air being compressible, the last centimeters of your air pump are crucial if you want to ramp up your output. Try to minimize them as much as you can since the trapped air is at its maximum compression (aka most air per volume...). great build.
^ this. It pained me to see that wasted potential. Not hard to upgrade however. Two sheets of material placed at both end points of the mover's travel with holes cut out for the rails and the air in/out holes then fix some ducts between that inner chamber wall and the existing outer.
Mate this is fantastic!
Regarding the linear motor, you should contact the UA-camr ElectroBoom. He’s an electrical engineer who makes contraptions like this. It would be a great collab!
"A man created a ventilator rivaling actual expensive medical equipments"
22:08
You can make the video as long as you want/need to and I'll watch it, no questions asked. (I'll watch is multiple times probably)
This was awesome.
4:00 to get the phase of the coils right, what you want to do is attach them to an oscilloscope or ADC and _record_ the waveform produced by you manually pushing the coils smoothly along the rod. Then you can either work out what the phase offsets are from those waveforms, or even play the recorded waveforms back exactly in order to get perfectly smooth motion.
Yeah.. pfft.. obviously, that. Yeah.
@@TeamDayaShankar psssssh amateurs ay
Thats actually a really cool way of doing it lol
4:05 - This is really cool and you almost had it! I think you're basically using quadrature encoded signal to move the coils in which case you should only need 2 coils instead of 3, space the magnets so the spacing is equal to the length of the magnets themselves, and space the coils so they're half the length of the magnets. The smoothness of the motion will depend on the length of the magnets. I'd love to see it work!
Yeah
I think if the magnets in the tube were shorter, he would have had better chances of what he wanted to do
Ideally you could push it across the rod at constant speed, measure the back EMF and then use it to generate the drive current
@@michaelharris679 Back EMF is the quick and dirty way of driving the linear motor. However, because of the rapid change in direction, a back EMF could cause stuttering as it only approximates the position. Something like a hall effect sensor could perform better, but testing is definitely needed.
You, Sir are to be throughly congratulated. I'm by no means an expert in hydraulics or magnatronics, but I know enough to realise that this project was by no means flippant. You have literally re-engineered a technology that is thousands of years old. Bloody Well Done 👏
Next: put some hepa filter and you have the most over engineered air purifier on the planet
Neat !
Actually a nylon MESH prefilter + G3 (or G4) + F6 ( F7) is a more economical solution. HEPA limit the airflow a lot. Though THIS thing might work with HEPA! well enough!
Yes
Giorgos MRTS-TRX not so much anymore.... HEPA’s are made today with very little resistance. So much so the design of bsc’s have had to be changed to address to problem caused.
well for this to work the air intake cannot be the same as the exhaust which would probably mean engineering a one way air valve system and a different hole for air intake or vice versa
@@JBTYpr he just needs to join the outputs, This thing is right brilliant, would love to see a big silent version like the og bellows.
that moment when Matt invents a diy ventilator just in time for the pandemic
thought the same o.o
Holy shit! That is so oddly true...
But it doesn't have enough power for that use.
Just leave it with him, he'll sort it I've no doubt! Excellent work and ingenuity.
@@petrosdimitriospilichos9195 It can run in as much power as the coupled magnets can handle
Might not be the greatest efficiency, but it will get the job done
I love your attitude towards your work. With these troubled times we are all facing, my children and I are giving a few of your past projects a go. I’ll keep you posted. Wish me luck.
What happned
Hands down, this is my favourite channel from now on. Thank you UA-cam for recommending me this gem of a channel. Real freakin' talent ♥️♥️♥️♥️
he's like a family friendly Michal Reeves
nightmare
crackhead - opiumhead
nightmare
No because he tries to make it look nice
Michael doesnt give a shit about looks
@@codyzcs idk his latest operation robot looked pretty clean imo
I think a bellows system has more potential than this video might imply. Being able to create a vacuum and more pressure can give a strong enough linear induction motor a lot of opportunity for torque in comparison to a fan which only ever operates at atmospheric pressure,(you can put more torque on a denser fluid) .The pump system worked well but isn't likely going to be as strong as another method. I'm glad someone else thought of this!! Awesome video!
True, but he wanted it to be as silent as possible
" so do you use air or water cooling"
"YES"
😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
magnetic-hydro-air assist cooling
I prefer hydro-magnetic, Air cooler or (H-MAC)
@@1scorface excellent
No*
This is so fascinating. The mechanics alone are so damn cool. Not to mention a bit of cheeky making your own SILENT solenoid valves. The idea alone of having an alternating water flow move a magnet who's magnetic field is attached to another magnet moving the plates of plastic is ingenious.
4:06 There are few things that make me as happy as seeing someone who publishes the results of a project that didn't work out.
friend: why do you have 2 PC's?
me: I only have one
friend: then whats that?
me: that's my PC fan
...
friend: why do you you have 2 PC's?
me: one for the cooling and one for the load
friend: ...
@@lightmambauk8915 so basically what the comment said
Ikr
@@aljon5947 Yep but with an imaginary friend :(
PC -fan- *BELLOW*
Internet bloke: Talks about the sounds of the fans
Me: Is unable to hear his fans due to my pc fans going crazy
damn it man xD that was good ...cause I have the same issue here LOL xD
I have a fan on that drowned the fans 😂😂😂
I wasn't able to hear his fans because of my fan (not the pc one) that I use since it's damn hot here
**Makes an inline 6 bellow system**
WHAT?
My fan is so broken that I have heated keys.
The excitement displayed at the point of his success is simultaneously fantastic and ridiculous. Fantastic because it is completely genuine. Ridiculous due to his undeniably tremendous skillset!
A skillset that includes the IMAGINATION to consider this project. His VISUALIZATION of this mechanism prior to building it. Having the SKILLS/KNOWLEDGE to build it. His PERSEVERANCE in correcting his initial mistakes. The GUTS to post it knowing nobody (or very few) will follow his lead in building this mechanism. And finally, the FORESIGHT to post this video knowing others will learn from the various lessons displayed and utilize them elsewhere! Bravo!
I have a fascinating idea, what about your “Fan” integrated into a “Wind Chest” for a Pipe organ? It would be quieter, highly durable, ?consistant? - Roll the idea around in your head. Look up original pipe organs… fan to feed a bellows wind chest.
Emil me what you think as an experimental technology.
I was thinking of pressurized chambers that work like lungs.
"Take a listen"
Proceed to turn my volume up and still hear nothing.
yeah XD
retweet
also when he started talking again my ears fell off
me: am i deaf?
Matt: *talks*
now i am..
It's a very subtle squeak.
The look of sheer joy on his face made my whole week.
me too!!
Word!
"So is that PC watercooled or air cooled?"
"Yes"
Technically all water cooled pcs are air cooled
@@sirsanti8408 Yeah, but this video is getting the air to move using water, while conventional water coolers use water to transfer heat and air to exhaust.
The bellows Matt made is bloody power efficient, but not size efficient.
@@SyRose901 ahh true, this system needs to be big with how it moves air though
@@sirsanti8408 The bellow have a lot of room for improvement, but it's a novelty in the first place, so not many people are trying.
Thank you for posting a "Failure" where you don't get the results you want or expected. It's nice to see innovation and experimentation just for the sake of it.
20:20
Me: trying to hear the "fan" noise.
My computer: running Folding@home at full cpu and gpu
same, but i cant seem to get something new to process, ive already done two and it has two that say download but there is no way I know of to download
me too
@@dewy3288 the servers are currently overloaded, too many new folders. Hope you fold for LTT.
didiwin78 DONT SAY THAT CURSED WORD
LTT gang?
4:00 - my suggestion, much finer wire, many, many more turns on the coil, - get your resistance up to 16-20 ohms at least.
15:18 I have seen that emotion in Matt for the first time.
The other projects he's built he knew how how to do it with electronics, this one was an experiment, he was learning along the way, which is why he couldn't contain his excitement when the project finally worked the way he wanted it too ;)
Every other PC modder: HAHA look at my hardware porn!
DIY PERKS: Hold my earl grey!
its funny because hes British and earl grey is tea.
@@WoolseyCole did you realize it by yourself?
Tea, early grey, hot!
Captain Picard would approve :D
You could replace the relay with a MOSFET, so that there is no clicking sound!
Definitely.
@@renzevenir4853 you came great Scott's workshop right
@@bhosaleprathamesh4557 haha great Scott army unite
thats what i was thinking
There are also solid-state relays that make no sound
The Dedication on this project man.
RESPECT
8:03 I just realised matte gray can also be a name. Matt Gray is a friend of Tom Scott and makes frequent appearances on his channel.
How much weed have u smoked
Incredible
I thought the same thing when I heard it
Next week: How to convert this machine into a ventilator for 16 patients.
Hmmmn 🤔
Are u time traveler
Exactly what I was thinking. He had accidentally made a very cool ventilator.
I've been trying to find a replacement ventilator for my wife's, since they're "phasing them out" in favor of their newer smaller units -- but hers is the only one that works for her [that we've found so far]. Hers uses a bellows with the diaphragm running on a ball-screw. New ones use turbines, micropistons, or other technology, and each have some serious issue that messes up her life, and will likely shorten it.
I apologise, I just saw your comment. You're way ahead of me. I totally agree
hey can we not mention covid-19 here, most of us are trying to forgot about it while at home...
20:29 It kind of sounds like a car's windscreen wipers, quite relaxing indeed.
Edit: fixed the time signature
you mean 20:29 ?
@@heygek2769 Thanks for notifying me, no idea how I messed up the time signature.
Really? To me, it sounded just like the noise made by the fans in my pc ........oh, wait.
it sounds like a ventilator
i've never seen such satifying movement of ANYTHING😍
You utterly missed one point. What you built was aesthetically pleasing. It was beautiful.
I totally agree! Just on aesthetics and novelty alone it hands down defeats the bank of fans. Add a bit of LED magic and well.... that would really be amazing and I think with a bit of more improvement on the design I believe it would actually outperform the fans
Hes like a mix of LinusTechTips and Tom Scott
yess lol
meta af
More like linus and Micheal reeves
@@markmcmenamin1266 and Tom Scott in there just for the accent
They had a threesome!!!
“First with mdf primer and then with Matt Gray”
Me: wow, all British youtubers really do know each other.
Nobody: asked or laughed
@@lemau8458 surprisingly, more than a hundred people disagree with you over a period of six months.
@@lemau8458 gross Reddit mong
@@lemau8458I guess your one like is from yourself huh?
@@lemau8458 204 people that proved you wrong: didn't ask because it's a _comment_ section and not a _speak only when told to speak_ section, but still laughed.
Honestly the magnetic alignment was the most amazing thing in this video. They were so centrally arranged!
I've seen the completed build and I'm in awe that this actually took you more than a year to complete thanks to the issues you had to face before and after posting this video. While for many, it's considered inefficient use of time and money, it's an innovation of trying things no company is willing to take, and will greatly help people who would want to try the same project in the future.
companies don't do this because outside of doing it as a hobby, you don't realize bad designs. They would consider the design, come up with a lot of reasons why this is worse than just using a large (=silent) fan, and not build it.
This is the of DIY i love: Pointless enough for me to do them but interesting enough to watch it
*can we all just appreciate how happy he got when it worked lol*
Wow. Really impressed with the amount of ingenuity, novelty and parts selection. This could possibly be marketed successfully. I reckon organ players who are after quieter bellows would be the first to rush and buy it. Also, I would think some people would prefer it to a fan both in terms of the novelty as well as the noise factor. A large fan in the living room is somewhat unsightly.
I can see a few variations and improvements possible. By using curved vents on each exit one can have air-flow being directed in a single direction rather two opposed directions, instantly making it a candidate for a cooling fan substitute. Some people might like the oscillating air flow but if a more constant flow is desired, the enclosure can be separated into multiple smaller chambers with independent pistons being driven at different phases so as to produce a constant combined air-flow at the exit.
The performance improvement could be a simple matter of increasing pump power (or in this case, the number of chained pumps).
An alternative use would be that of a very silent, mild damper which would be quite bulky but would retain the novelty factor
14:04 Man was i happy at this point, i had a hunch when you were installing it saying " is this really necessary with those strong magnets ?! "
Me in 1998 as a kid: "I bet we'll have flying cars in 2020"
2020: 3:28 >domesticated railgun
I love it.
That's a coil gun (railguns use cunducting rail and no permanent magnets) , but yes it is cool 😜
Flying cars is a stupid idea all together, imagine if car falling debris landed on you.
@@matjazpovalej4146 Imagine if a car ran out of fuel in the air, or nose dived for no reason.
cuz ya cant shoot a man with a flying car. *Taps temple Eddie Murphy style*
@@matjazpovalej4146 look at how people drive cars, now imagine those people flying cars. have a good nightmare
You could put this in an art exhibit and get quite a lot of attention.
Not long ago a banana ductaped to a wall was sold for 100000 so defiantly XD
J sold twice for 100k once for 120k and 2 artist proofs so technically it was sold 5 times
And keep everyone cool at the same time
@@ItsJabaCast No, a very large pile of cocaine sold for 100,000. That pile of cocaine just happened to be hidden inside a wall with a banana taped to it.
That's what I was thinking when I saw it
you're literally the smartest man i've ever and never met, stay safe out there
appreciate you always, thank you for what you do
no if he would he would just cool the computer with the water cooling hardware and the pump is load irl
@@sejmroz7355 You are missing the whole point of the video.
And since you're so smart:
1) do the calculatiins on the airflow on his cabinet
2) do a calculation on the max speed he can achieve on his pump.
3) Make the calculation on cooling effiency on a water cooling system, compared to air.
An even better solution than yours, is to use running tap water, from a cooling perspective.
You are so not overreacting when you test it and see it working (16m). "Impressive work" would be an understatement galore. I'm blown away.
Adding a computer to that:
Add a radiator to one side of the case, when the panel moves causes the air to flow trought it as fans do.
Using the water cooler pump to circulate water on the whole sistem(can it handle that much?).
holy shit, this is genius. Maybe Radiators on both sids so it can operate at a lower speed?
Yeah, I think it would be super cool to have the water pumps drive a liquid cooling system with the radiator fans being replaced with the bellows.
But the air pushed through the radiator from inside would always be hot air, that has been pulled through the radiator in the cycle before.
When you said "redesign" I had to think of an artificial lung as they use in hospitals xD
That's why I find the sound of this below extremely uncomfortable... Yet it's a brilliantly executed project, and the linear switching valve is really an interesting idea
Or air hydraulics.
They use a large diameter piston on a crank. Sometimes they show up in surplus. Beautiful life critical machining.
i think what your thinking is called the iron lung
they can start using 4 noctua fans 🤣🤣🤣🤣it's cheaper 😜
There is a certain kind of madness at play here that I love.
Honestly...It's absolutely beautiful. You've tried to Engineer a solution but you've created art along the way.
This man is a blessing and a gem to this apocalypse we have going on don't ever change DIY Perks.
"this project might be going off the rails because i'm going to try to make a DIY version of this ready-made item"
no, I think we're on brand here
lol...underrated reply...HA!
It's hard to judge the noise, when my computer does more.
You just picked up a subscriber. Extremely impressive.
Even though it's massively impractical, overdesigned, and expensive...I would totally rock this in my rig. It's just too freaking cool.
I hope you get this working well enough to keep your rig set up with this 100% of the time. It would make for the dopest conversation piece for us Engineery-type guys.
When he says "I lack the knowledge..." that basically means it's just impossible. This man can do everything.
sometime specialised knowledge is require
20:35 that noise is perfect for integration into a starship ambient soundscape.
See if you can add it to this mynoise.net/NoiseMachines/spaceshipNoiseGenerator.php
I actually was sitting here thinking "Why hasn't anyone invented a silent fan??" while my ceiling fan is silently spinning above me
People are constantly trying to make silent fans.
Ceiling fans are different mostly because of scale and purpose. They aren't drawing cool air in or anything, they're helping the air flow
Ceiling fans are silent because of their size, this allows you to run them at a much lower rpm, making less noise. Computer fans for example are small so to get the same airflow you need much more rpm to get the same airflow. Yes you could make a massive computer fan running at a very low rpm but the size will be just immense.
@@justahamsterthatcodes your reply is underrated
Now for extra flair, put a LED at the end of the glass rods.
It has to be RGB tho
@@blanana_m of course
as in?
"Are you ready for this?"
Literally no one was ready for this. This is the coolest thing EVER! :D
Literally the coolest lol
We have freezers for a long time now
And honestly lol, if you go back and watch his reaction it gets me everytime, because mine was the exactly the same Dx
These are the things that happen when an engineer goes into quarantine.
Government should force quarantine engineers from now on, even after the c[]vid. We will experience tons of great ideas.
HA... he isn't even in the deep dark part of an engineering project yet. He was reaching it when he hit his first mental block... if you push an engineer hard enough and long enough, they invent the ability to fly by thought. LOL (Insert the story of why Archimedes ran NAKED down the street exclaiming "Eureka, I found it!" )
the amount of magnets used in this project can make me a 100 times more attractive.
Or more repulsive depends on orientation.
@@mikeorjimmy2885 i like you lol
0 × 100 is still 0
I think my favorite part of this is that in the process of trying to reinvent the fan to cool a PC, he builds a high-end custom water-cooling loop 3 different times.....