Lamb Lies Down On Broadway - Shootout: OG US vs. Acoustic Sounds 4 x 45 RPM
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2023
- Lamb Lies Down On Broadway shootout.
Original US Porky Cut vs. Analogue Productions Atlantic 75 Series 4 x 45 RPM
System Summary:
Analogue:
VPI Scoutmaster Turntable
Benz Micro Wood body ZH Cartridge
Ayre Acoustics P5xe Phono Stage
Ampex ATR-102 Reel to Reel
Otari MX5050B2 HD Reel to Reel
Nakamichi 680ZX
Nakamichi Dragon
Digital:
2014 Mac Mini
Ayre QB9 DSD
Various Sonos
All interfaced with Roon
Rogue Audio Cronus Dark Integrated Amp.
Revel F32 Speakers
Synergistic research Cabling.
Discogs US Porky
www.discogs.com/release/39193...
Acoustic Sounds Order page:
store.acousticsounds.com/d/17...
No Lambs were harmed in the production of this video.
Bought this when it first came out.
Loved it then , love it now.
It’s a quintessential Prog Rock LP! Thanks for watching!!
Jefferson, great review and agree the Genesis Atlantic 75 is amazing! Great to hear your details and history of the record. Thank you, Jefferson
Thanks for watching Daniel!
Thx Jefferson,fantastic review.
Detailed & informative
So happy you’re finding it amazing.
Great news AP have done it again.
Made me smile when you mentioned the bass on fly on the windshield.
That’s got to be a reference point 😊
Cannot wait for my AP 4 x 45 rpm to arrive ,
Cool video Jefferson 👌🙏
Thanks for watching Liam!
Thanks for your review of my favorite concept album ever. I could never say enough about the depth, complexity and moody feel from this masterpiece, along with the wizardry of Tony’s magnificent piano introduction. I do own an original pressing of the vinyls but it does have a bit of wear. So back in 1999, I would acquire a CD copy on the 25th anniversary of its release. I also have a bootleg CD copy as well. I’m such a fan of The Lamb that it’s at least worth considering the Atlantic 75 version. Sounds intriguing !!
Thanks for your comments and feedback. Yes if you’re a fan of this album, I think you’ll be very pleased with this version. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for sharing
Happy listening!
I totally agree with your estimation that this album is not 'dark'. While it certainly has more than a few of the typical Genesis darkish, Goth moments, I think it has a very positive message. 'IT' is a celebration of life and discovering that mystery.
True, and I love the "It's only Rock and Roll But I like it" poach in "IT" they obviously knew the Stones album was coming out soon!
@@JeffersonDD Did The Lamb precede the Stones? (knock = ask the question; and know-all = listen to the answer)
@@rk41gator Stones was a month earlier than Lamb per the university of Wikipedia
@@JeffersonDD Thanks. Genesis and particularly Phil, listened to a lot of music. No doubt a fan of the Stones.
Hello, I'm new to your channel. I'm a huge Genesis fan, and The Lamb is one of my favorite albums from them. I really want to pick up that 4lp pressing of it. Now that the holidays are over, I'll look into it. I live in Norcal and sometimes travel to Berkeley to vinyl dig. Love how you compare this new pressing to older pressings. Great review!
I think if you’re a Genesis fan, especially PG-era, this is a no-brainer:). Next time you swing through Beserkeley hit me up and we’ll go digging. Thanks so much for watching!
@JeffersonDD I'll definitely let you know the next time I'm in Berkeley. Thanks so much!
Good vid JD. Nice shirt too.
$10 bootleg “lot shirt” after the Peter Gabriel show😂
"Sunshine in my stomach", is the opening line from a song called "The Cage"
Yes thanks! I should referred to the lyric, not the song title. Thanks for watching!
The Classic Records 200g pressing, has that dynamic room shaking affects on Fly on a windshield.
Cool, thanks for that feedback. I really need to find a pressing of the CR. Thanks for watching
Thanx for this great Review. I'm excited and are still waiting for my order, but Germany takes a bit longer.🖖
Thanks for watching. Hope you enjoy it!
It's called "In The Cage" not "Sunshine In My Stomach"
Your observation regarding the vocals is very interesting Jeff.
I come across this also from time to time.
It usually can indicate a more detailed instrumentation & better separation but sometimes something has got to give in this case maybe the vocals.
Same thing if they concentrate to much bringing the vocals forward then they lose some detail in the separation of instruments.
Just my 2 cents 😊😎
Thanks Laim, I went back and forth a while, but in the end it was an observation, and not an indication of being better.
Great review! Please consider moving the ring light as the vampire eyes really distract.
Yes I know, I’ve been struggling with that for a few videos now. Thanks for the tip, my only issue is that I need to figure out zooming in after moving it back. Thanks for watching!
I own an early Japanese pressing of _The Lamb_ as well as a US Porky cut, but I would be very interested in comparing this AP 45 with my Classic Records test pressing dated February 12, 2001, which will probably be a bit closer.
As far as _Selling England_ goes, I have the AP 45 but the original Porky cut still sounds fantastic in its own right, FWIW.
Wow thanks for that data, much appreciated. Thanks so much for watching!
I live across the Bay in SF and got my copy on Saturday; I've been looking for somebody else's review of it, and your's is the first I've found. I think it sounds awesome, but the thudding bassline on 'In the Cage' was a bit overwhelming; might need to make some adjustments. I was at the 'Lamb' show at Berkeley Community Theater in '75....
Wow that must have been an amazing show. Yes the bass is intense, but at least it was tight. Thanks so much for watching!
You bet - Just finished listening to it again just now, in fact. I need to ask Acoustic Sounds if they've had any complaints about surface noise, though, because while it's far from horrible, there are more tics on these 4 disks than there were on 13 disks on my Miles Davis box set, which had about 4 altogether; my Acoustic Sounds 'Aja' and Jethro Tull 'Stand Up' are perfectly quiet, too.
@@larsman9169 it’s very “staticy” this time of year, not sure if that’s an issue for you. I noticed a little even after cleaning. A quick brush with a a regular fiber brush took care of it though. However if your noise persists contact AS and I’m sure they’ll make it right.
Thanks for your suggestion, Jefferson!
I take that back it's not a gatefold but it does have 2 records with it. And the inner sleeves are just plain white. So feedback I figured I would put it on here because you're talking about this album. And I have something special and I hope is rare. And I thought I would share it with you guys. The sleeve and inner sleeve are in very good condition and the vinyl are in excellent condition, not mint. But close. Overall I'd say it's in very good condition. Thanks and have a splendid day
1. Great shirt. 2. This album is kick ass. I do not own the Porky, but the new 45 from AP is spectacular. Need to figure out how to cover the jacket. Maybe Vinyl Solutions?
Thanks so much for watching. Yes the album kicks ass:). And yes I used VSS sleeves, size 12.75 for the outer jacket, and size 12 for the inner leafs. One trick though; cut a 1” slit in the sleeves so they’ll expand over the wide spine and meet the adhesive edges. I should have included this in the video but that’s what I did at least
The Porky has always been my goto for testing new gear. It has been replaced by the Atlantic 75
Cool Beans!! The A75 is definitely the pinnacle IMHO. Thanks so much for watching!
I have heard other reviewers equally effusive about the new 45 recording, so I am eagerly looking for my record store to get their copies in.
Genesis needs sonic detail to reveal their nuanced subtly.
Uma das minhas bandas.favoritas,estou aguardando esse album(cd)que.adquiri pelo mercado livre.nunca escutei este album porem tenho certeza que vou gostar saudo desde brasil
muito obrigado por assistir e espero que goste de sua cópia quando ela chegar. boas festas!
I've got the Genesis bootleg from this album. It's very rare. I don't know how rare, but I've never seen it before. And I'm lucky enough to have found it. It looks just like lambs lie down on Broadway. But it's got different pictures on it and it's called swelled and spent. lambs lie down on broadway live. The normal albums got 3 pictures on the front. Well, this one's got 3 as well but different ; a picture of a doctor with a brain collection, A Man in a gorilla suit trying on shoes and Silhouette of hands in front of the physical graffiti apartments. The 3 pictures on the back have a man with a suit made of peanuts shells and a picture of a guy who's bald and he's got an eyeball in his mouth and there's a Indian woman with a sign in front of her that says positively no trust... I paid twenty dollars for it in baton rouge. I can imagine it's worth more. And the interior of each record just has a white sticker that says side one side two side three inside four, but I suspect this Bootlegg was put out by the band and it's record company. But I would give it a c+ in sound quality. Give me some feedback if anybody's heard of this Or they know how much it's worth and if it's really rare or not. it's called swelled & spent.. The lamb lie down on broadway= live.
Haven’t heard of it but I’ll check and see if I can find out. Thanks for watching!
I think the best way to compare different pressings of the same album is to do it blindfolded so you don’t know what you’re listening to 99 percent of the time people will choose the newer version and most expensive version Just my opinion
A lot of folks think that “Blind Shootouts” are the best way to go especially with “confirmation bias”. Since I’m not really equipped to do that, I try to be as objective as I can. Friends Steve Westman and Patrick like to take digital rips of pressings, equalize them and do them blind, which is a pretty good approximation. Thanks a lot for watching.
@@JeffersonDD 👍
Sunshine in my stomach is a song named In The Cage
Nice review - the Classic has a little too much bass, less defined, closer to the AP75, the UK original has more openess but all the instruments are hard to differentiate as being at the same level.
Thanks for your insight on the classic records and UK porky. And thanks for the song title, I should have said “lyric” not song. Thanks so much for watching!
I hate that HUGE tick box, why not release the freaking album as originally is? that huge tick box don't look premium as they think.
Hi, great video. I might get this AP Lamb version. You also mentioned Selling England. There is a second variant of that 2023 4x 45rpm reissue, where CB also has cut the fourth side. Any chance that you might know why it is so?
Edit: Back to Lamb. I own a 1st press UK porky which has that famous "Lamb hum" on it. Regarding the vocals, I noticed the exact same thing as you talk about in the video of your Porky pressing. The vocal is very three dimensional on my system. I use a 3-way active speaker setup (1000 watt on each side) which are very good at separation. It sounds like Porky has used a lot of mid-range boost which lies in Peter's vocal range, making it come "out" almost as he is with you in your room. I am with you, split thought if it is for the better, but I found other instruments also "come out" like this, and it is definitely better than my other copy which is the 2018 Miles Showell 2x LP reissue (which is not bad), but it has that hum. Mine is a VG+ too.
Thanks so much for those details. I think it’s worth having this AP but that porky is strong too. 1000 watts per side?!? Bet that is insane separation! You must have very understanding neighbors:). Thanks very much for watching!
Sounded like a Lamb of God x Scars on Broadway collab. I’ll pass by on Genesis. Great episode though.
Thanks for watching!
I have the Og that I purchased new and has porky in the deadwax. Not really interested in getting this version unless I come across an amazing deal. Not against 45s and I have and love the new "Selling England". Just feel like this one was meant as a 4 part album
I totally understand where you’re coming from. However after having just gone through several iterations of both versions, there’s no issue with the “continuity” at least to me. I think “Suppers Ready” on Foxtrot will be more challenging, but I’m confident they’ll make it work. Thanks so much for watching:)
I have
How did you go about sleeving the jacket and panels?
I should have mentioned this, but I used VSS 12.75. Inch on the outer panels and standard 12” on the inner panels. But the trick is to use a razor blade to make about a 1” slit into the sleeves for “extra” space to float around the extra wide spine. It took a minute to figure out. Thanks for watching!
Where did you make use of the sticky tape and where did you not? Looks like you may have cut away the tape on the inside sleeves, yes/no?@@JeffersonDD
@@michaellord9745 so I didn’t cut away the tape, but I made a slit of about 1” to “spread” the sleeve so that it could reach the tape.
@@michaellord9745 I just added a “Instructional” video showing how to sleeve it. Let me know if you have any questions
Thank you for posting the video.@@JeffersonDD
Promo SM
Is this record really even that good? Not really. Although, Selling England is a masterpiece!