2020 BMW F900XR | Test Ride
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- Опубліковано 19 лют 2020
- I take BMW's new road focused middleweight tourer for a quick spin. Many thanks to Vines BMW Motorrad in Guildford for the test ride.
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Glad you chose to upload. You mentioned a couple of things that I haven’t heard before so thanks.
Cheers Lyndon. Not my best work but not sure I'll get another chance on the XR.
Imagine having f900xr as your show off ride and cb650r as your daily commute sitting in your garage. ❤️
Great review, love the color!
Good, short ride review. Love the bike! And in that colour! Cheers! :)
Cheers!
Good review that covered things missed by other youtubers like the max weight which many never even think about but is important if you intend going 2 up touring and why you'd chose ESA etc. I'm not in the market for a new bike as I'm picking 1 up next month but found this interesting non the less.
Great video as always you just need to do the F900 R now as this is the one I am really interested in .....I did enjoy this test ride you did though keep them coming cheers
Thank you Graham. Hopefull F900R soon.
Fair review and having owned my XR from February you've hit the nail on the head with the minor niggles of prop stand height (fixed with an enlarger), very strong front brake and suspension comments. If you want to flat foot it you may need as I did to go for a factory-lowered suspension AND low seat (giving 775 mm) but bear in mind you then have to forgo ESA and centre stand options.
However as with your own Honda, I love this bike which now needs to get back on the road as soon as 'riding for pleasure' is permitted in the UK!
Got to admit I'm intrigued by this XR and will be giving one a proper test once dealers are open again.
@@Englishbikerdan Look forward to that. In my case the workshops need to reopen also to do my 600m service! I suppose one other thing worth saying is that while the blipper is lovely the shifter somewhat clunks in the lower gear change ups (funny how the dealer always says that's normal or will improve with the miles) so people shouldn't expect it to be like say the S1000R.
Really reminds me of my old f800s.
Thanks for taking her out. Been waiting for you to ride this and a little more so, the 900R, Dan.
Just got my first big bike here in the UK, same as yours. What gloves you wearing there? I have summer gloves from when I was doing test rides last year and desperately need some winter ones.
While you're at it can you also let me know your boots, trousers and jacket? Cheers!
Looks nice.
Main things I’m looking at currently are this and the new Triumph Tiger 900 GT Pro. Leaning towards the Tiger slightly, but going to look at them in the flesh this weekend.
A great review n I rather like that gold colour 😀🏍️. Stockport, cheshire
This looks promising, but If I have to choose between this XR and Tracer GT, I would go for Tracer 900 GT for the cheaper price. Both have similiar performance, power-to-weight ratio etc. And the XR doesn't come with autocruise and quickshifter (unless you go for TE). Credit to BMW for great design tho
From what I have seen, it is hard to choose between this and the Tracer 900. They both have their pluses. I would say, for the Tracer, the engine seems more exciting, but maybe the suspension on the BMW are better, the TFT and brakes are definately better. If you are doing mainly Sunday afternoon rides, and the occasional weekend or 5 day hack, I wonder which is the best choice? I'm honestly stuck.
Another great video dan also as a few others have mentioned be great to see a down to earth review of the F900r see how it compares to the duke 790 as there both a couple of bikes I'm interested in also if you can get your hands on one an aprilia shiver 900 seems to go a little under the radar here in the UK
It was a mad dash video and far too rushed for my liking but that's the way these things sometimes go. Hopefully I'll be able to borrow the 900R for a bit longer and get some sexy b roll! I'll see what I can do with Aprilia but there isn't a dealer near me.
Always handy to firm up the rear on the go
Compared with Yamaha Tracer 900 GT, which one is better for average users with few years riding experience? Appreciate if you can do a group test (F900XR, Tracer 900 GT and Tiger 900 Pro GT) or give your opinion on that. You could give me a big help for I am seriously to get one of these middleweight sport touring bikes. Please note I don’t do off road riding.
Already, the front section of the exhaust system looks scruffy because the front mudguard is inadequate. Do the people who design bikes never have to wash them? Aside from that, I love this bike.
All bikes need fender extenders, £20ish
Good vid
This is an old one now, thanks for watching!
If you can only have one bike, one do-it-all bike, cb650r or f900xr? Thanks!
Interesting on the seat height. I tried one yesterday and initially had the same issue and I know I’m the same height and inseam as you Dan. Then I realised if I out my feet behind the pegs which felt weird the I could flat foot it. Coming off a bike with more rear set pegs this wasn’t intuitive. Also found the sides and was about 3 inches to short meaning the bike leans like a certain famous tower and is much heavier to get upright when manoeuvring. Still raeally
wanted one tho.
great video
thank you for your presentation, I prefer for me the BMW F900R smaller and cheaper
V the bikers
Thanks! I will be riding the 900R next week. So a video hopefully soon after.
May I know what phone case ur using..?looks like a water proof casing..
Hi Dan, always on a lookout for your reviews so glad you've managed to get your hands on this totally new beemer. Question: this f900xr or honda cb650r (yes, I know you have it) or cbr650r or street triple r... or ktm 790 duke? I ride 2009 street triple and is lots of fun but now I am thinking of something new(er). I want a city bike but a joy to ride in the twisties with some touring once in a while. I am short and slim so all big ADVs are not for me, and the mid range are kind of boring (Tiger, VStrom, etc). Tracer 700 looks interesting but I saw vids they are rusting away since new. And now this new F900XR gets me thinking... so I'd appreciate your thoughts on the subject. Thanks, cheers, Robert.
Ktm 790 duke is a great bike and has all the toys and as a plus is very light in comparison .
Hi. I am in the same situation...trying to decide between G310GS, CB650R and possibly F750/850. Time to time I would like to have pillion and mostly city and around city commuting. I need to combine feelings, emotions, practicality and price :) Tough decision...I am more into BMW, so we will see
@@cednicek wouldn’t pick either of the first two on your list for a pillion
What phone case/mount is that? Tell me NOW!
When you overtook the van would have been the perfect time for a clutchless upshift, have you tried on this bike? I know that sometimes BMW gearboxes can be a bit notchy
I did not, I rarely do it tbh.
@@Englishbikerdan Fair enough, enjoyed the video all the same :-)
Thanks for the video Dan, im interested in either this of the tracer 900 gt so this is helpful
The Tracer GT is the closest match. Excellent bike let down by a poor finish when compared to BMW and other Japanese manufacturers unfortunately. The XR is better value for money in a side-by-side comparison.
@@markellott5620 Poor finish, not really, but not BMW level.
What you get with Yamaha is a better looking bike, superior engine, superior suspension, far superior reliability, and save thousands.
I know where I'd spend my hard earned money.
@@bigpapa8152 I've got one and the finish is disappointing frankly. If I had to choose instead of having both, I'd take the BMW every time. Far higher build quality.
As for saving money the BMW is better specified for the same money. So that one doesn't fly.
@@markellott5620 Excuses bud, your full of them.
@@bigpapa8152 facts. Do the maths. The price is much the same. The BMW has leaning lights, leaning abs, electronic suspension and tyre pressure warning. And it's better finished. Facts as I said. I love both bikes, but the BMW is better specified and better built. Of the four bikes in my garage, the yamaha is the poorest when it comes to build quality. You might not like that, but facts don't care about your feelings.
How does this compare to the Tiger 850?
What did you think about that motorcycle seat? I tried it at the store and it was hard. I don't know if riding it the seat will be better...
I found it pretty hard too. Would probably need a softer seat for a longer ride.
This is an older video, but I just wanted to comment about the low end grunt you mentioned being less than you expected: I've got a 900xr and have the pro riding modes. The way that road mode behaves with throttle response makes it feel quite lazy low down, but in dynamic mode (or dynamic pro if you have it setup that way), you get all the beans at the low end, albeit it makes it kinda twitchy to ride. You touched on some great points though! It's a lovely bike.
Thanks for that Elias. I hope to get a longer test on a 900 soon. 👍
@@Englishbikerdan If I were in the UK I would lend it to you to try out! After getting used to road mode it's my preferred mode for sure. For the type of riding I do dynamic is too aggressive for daily use and feels too much like a bike ready for the track.
@@elias_nichols Very kind of you. I'm very lucky that I live close to BMW UK HQ, so I'll have to do a bit of begging! 😁
You're right that dynamic mode makes a difference as it brings the bike alive, I ride in it all the time unless it's raining, I've never found it twitchy though. Dynamic mode should come as standard, not an optional extra, although it does add IMU to the bike as well so I guess that isn't cheap.
Wow.. is this my next bike?😌
It is a great looking bike. Having ridden the Tracer 900GT I would take allot of convincing to buy the BMW over the Yam, mainly because the Tracer is a proven reliability wise. Good to see BMW haven't gone keyless with the bike. What does annoy me about the BMW, especially one designed to tour is lack of spray suppression at the back. Loads of manufacturers do it, you ride on wet roads and then get a disgusting line of mud and crap up your or your passenger's back.
Not sure what spray would be like for the pillion. Might be ok as stock but if you want a tail tidy it's going to be very messy. I've had a bad experience with reliability of Yamaha's so I'd choose this over the Tracer. I don't like the look of the Tracer either. Just a bit too bland for my tastes but that's personal preference.
@@Englishbikerdan 24K on my MT10 and nothing has fallen off or failed yet. Let's hope it stays that way.
@@Banditmanuk Oh yeah I know there's plenty with no issues. Just once you get bitten twice, you certainly will think twice before buying that brand again.
What's your intro music name?
what is the price ?
Good review.. And the bike looks lovely but there are some issues if I were to buy:
Suspension is very poor in adjustment considering the price range,even with the esa you are not able to adjust the front.
Other reviews say the engine could be a bit boring.
Price with most of the kit seen in one dealership the other week 13k pounds.
Seems high for what you get but it is A Bmw.
I like your videos and you have gained a new subscriber.
It has benn explained again and again that in a motorcycle, the weight distribution affects a lot more the rear than the front, hence is no need for adjustment at the front, and new bike in general have excellent suspension from factory, there is no need to adjust front suspension, and matter of fact, people that adjust them most of the time they made it worse.
@@12masterr thank you for the explanation.. I am not an expert and probably rarely touch the suspension myself but if you are on the heavy side you usually end up changing or adjusting... At 6.4 and 104kg you tend to change springs for the forks etc..
@@aleks_the_Great13 yes,remember all motorcycles are designed with a "average driver" in mind,so the settings are not designed for a person outside that parameters, you are on the heavy side,so every single motorcycle will need changes, motorcycles are not that heavy compared to a car,so the relative weight of the motorcycle compared to the rider is disproportionately compared to a car, even them, my lexus suv only have adjustment in the rear suspension for the same reason ,when you load it,most of tje weight shift is on the back.my wife Cadillac Escalade is the same,only air suspension in the back.take care my friend
6:03 - priceless....
Hello, how would this bike be for someone of 1,97 meter height? Now I ride the 800GS adventure.
I'm 172cm so I can't imagine what being that tall feels like!
Thank you for this. I would go for the R version. I don't like those plastic bits in the front. And backspray or not, this bike needs a tailtidy! As they all do.
Nice video, I'm a beginner motorcyclist, my first bike at age 48 end am small 166cm,, so which bike of this equation is right for me? I drive daily to work in the city and also the highway and sometimes during a weekend round of recreational so, which one? is the right choice? or CB605F so what is your opinion?
I am 165cm and find anything above 830mm hard work - the Honda 650F is great fun 😊
@@miteor Thanks for advice
Put a bigger tank on it BMW, I want to go further than the local cafe on a Sunday ¬_¬
What kind of jacket and gloves do you have?
Oxford Mondial jacket for winter and here I'm wearing Rukka gloves. Can't remember the name of them though.
will you be reviewing the F900R?
Indeed I will. Just waiting for the weather to sort itself out!
Thanks for the review man. Due to replace my Z100SX in August, and looking at one of these, but keep wondering if the lack (comparative) of power would disappoint. Looks a nice bike though.
Having owned a 2014 model, the Z1000SX sets a very high bar standard, especially with its superb engine. Hope you make the right decision!
I have a gsx s 1000 f and i bought a f 900 xr. I was worried of loosing 40 hp but in the test ride i loved that engine, but if you like high revs you will miss your kawa.
Would this be suitable for a mature new-ish rider?
was thinking of the F750GS or this machine -I need a bike thats not boring .
Did you feel a lot of vibrations? Ty
It was quite a while ago, but I can't remember it being bad.
I’ve tried these new bikes and the seats seem huge for me... I have baby bum☺️
Haha. I definitely don't have that issue!
EnglishBikerDan 😂
Reminds me of the old TDM 900.
Round like a circle in a spiral etc. 🙄
Just today had my S1000R for service, and got this as a loaner ( same colour) its not for me. got acking bum after just 45 mins, and after owning a MT09 earlier, the engine just don't have enough caracter. looks nice and rides very nice though.
Fair enough, I quite liked it. I found the engine pretty tractable and a nice amount of torque for what the bike is designed for. Where I thought it really shone was the handling though.
@@Englishbikerdan totally agree it rides nice, and the engine is not weak as such, but its quite shakey under 3500 and as i said lacks caracter. i think mine has a lowered seat, and me being 190. my arse hurt.
New version of a xj900 diversion
It could've been the perfect bike with 17l+ fuel tank.
BTW ducati's been using excellent TFT on their bike range and nobody blink an eye, BMW puts a TFT in 2019 and everyone goes crazy. Tracer doesn't even have a colour display, it has inverted lcd (or LUKD).
I wouldn't know, Ducati won't let me anywhere near their bikes. 😭
@@Englishbikerdan Why not? if you do a fair review.
I am not talking about your channel, but I have seen some really absurd and sad reviews of their bike done by so called journalists, that's why I understand why they would be reluctant. Nowadays the objective journalism is a thing of past and 90% of youtubers/journalists just cater to the highest bidder.
For example, Ducati goes and spends tons of effort and millions and millions to produce the fastest and lightest and most advanced superbike Panigale V4R, and a bunch of Journalists from Romania pits it against a average inline4 bike and only bash Ducati and praise the other bike. Some channels are just up a certain brands because those brands are their bread and butter.
A certain M.N from MCN reviewed Streetfighter V4S recently, he blamed V4S because it didn't wheelie when he opened the throttle. Now if it did wheelie, he would say why it wheeled. There is nothing Ducati can do not to get bashed by so called journalists. Nowadays it's all about what brands pays more to get better reviews.
@@ampm9771 I can't speak for journalists as I'm just a UA-camr. However I've tried on numerous occasions to review Ducati motorcycles and the dealers said no chance. I've not tried in a while as I can't be bothered to travel even further away and get another frosty/snobby reception. I really like M.N. Seems like a nice chap.
@@Englishbikerdan Maybe you can try some non-brand dealers, I don't think they would refuse.
BTW M.N. is a nice chap, he is just doing his job, and he is doing it so well.
Cheers,
BTW I tried the 650R, more or less same as the F version, but with better components and looks awesome. It's a tad bit small, but for the money not many bikes beat it.
I'm on versys 650 2018, is it worth upgrading to this one? I'm doing about 5k miles a year
michal s 50% more expensive than Versys 650 but only 10% more fun!!
For the money, upgrade to the Versys 1000.
The BMW can't touch it.
Sheldon Bourgeois Truth! And I’m seeing new 2019 Versys 1000 loaded and advertised at $13,999 in USA.
Do you think that a boy with 194cm and 100kg can fit comfortably?
I want to buy this motorcycle, because in my opinion it looks beautiful and I can ride it with an A2. Because there is a f 900 r / xr version with 48kw.
Bike is lovely but the Ford Cortina gold just isnt doing it for me.
I thought I'd seen that colour before!
I found the engine breaking a bit disconcerting coming from an in-line 4. Had a tendency to nose dive when backing off the throttle 😬
Yeah those parallel twins have a heap of engine braking.
Don’t like the bike at all. Seems like a bike my dad would ride... an old man’s bike in my opinion. Nice review tough , I’m liking those numbers on the screen,Dan 👍 very comprehensive 😎
I must be an old man. 😂 It felt pretty decent and would be great on a long tour.
Ha yes I would agree .....problem is my son wud say the same, but then again I'm 30 years older than him therefore what he rides and what suits me at my age are different ..... If you fast forward your life by a couple of decades then ul think differently about this bike ....presently I have a 765 triumph which is great but I cud do with a tourer in my garage .....this ticks all the boxes .....when you get to be a bit older things have a habit of changing ....stay safe and enjoy n keep ur looking out for all the loonies on the road 👍
I've ordered one of these for training. It will compliment my Tracer as both bikes have an upright riding position and well suited for low speed riding and looking well ahead past the student in a training situation. Lovely bike, well designed and well finished. The "dad bike" thing is typical anti-BMW prejudice. It is nothing of the sort. It's a typical modern motorcycle. It just isn't to your taste, but then, it's my taste that matters as it's my money on the table.
@@markellott5620 Well said. :-)
@@Pisceanboi Unfortunately, BMW seems to attract haters who want to justify their dislike with nonsense. I expect other marques get the same.
I think it leans over a lot more on the stand so they didn't have to put a shorter one on the lower suspension bike
I had the lower suspension 2018 BMW GS adventure
and they did nothing to change the size of the side stand meaning that it was almost impossible to use because in fact the bike so straight that there was any bit of a lean to the right the bike would fall over the other way
I have no idea why BMW makes lower suspension bikes but can't spend the money to make at different size side stand
sure that's what's going on here
your bike leans over too far and the lower suspension bike will probably not lean over far enough
also that they don't have to make two different size side stand
seems very odd
Very strange indeed!
i am 15 i not try 900cc i try 600cc biggest
Once the current situation is over, people need to seriously consider where their money is spent. China needs to be punished for what they have inflicted on the world. The economy of the western world has been decimated and could well take a decade to recover. As with many others i will be boycotting Chinese products in favor of British /European manufacture. This will include those western companies (Listen up BMW)that use substantial components in premium brands for cost cutting purpose. This will include this bike with a cheap Chinese parallel twin engine. Dont be fooled anymore into paying premium prices for a so called premium brand full of Chinese components so that they can take their customers as mugs and rip them off.
those rear luggage brackets are bloomin ugly
I don't have a problem with Chinese product at Chinese prices. However I do have a problem with Chinese engines in a bike that's marketed as a premium brand. Ill give this one a miss thanks
....sent from my iPhone. ;)
It is just the engine assembly not entire bike and yeah i hope they coulda merge with husqvarna 😒😒 but nah engine is a blooping hit on the 850gs in india so i trust that engine 👍👍👍 you know indian conditions can melt the engine inside out and bulletproof quality is required for a bike to gain its market plot and f850gs is best off roader and perfect budget tourer in india
Sorry I just don't like it. Compared with its competitors it looks like a styling exercise made as cheap as possible. BMW have hoodwinked their customers with this one
Ha ...sorry gold colour is awful ....in today's modern world of paint jobs surely BMW cud have came up with something more interesting
Chinese engine, BMW price
The bike doesn't look very good. Nothing stands out. The KTM 790 Adventure is better in every way.
But the F900R looks very good.
At least the xr has proven to be 100% more reliable 😂
China engine....