STRONGEST NATIONS TO PICK IN A BIG EU4 MP LOBBY TIER LIST - 2021 UPDATED!!
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2021
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This is an updated version of my previous power tier list in big Multiplayer lobbies.
If you are looking for an MP lobby to play in here are a list of trusted discord servers that play ORGANIZED MP games (reminder if you are unable to consistently play once every week, organized EU4 MP might not for you):
Zlewikk Discord: / discord
Netwars Paradox: / discord
Paradox Gulag Group: / discord
Monkeyman's Jungle League: / discord
Quagersall Quagmire: / discord
Bleachcord: / discord
Absolute Universalis: / discord
Vault 1444: / discord
I hope you enjoy playing in a MP lobby in one of these discords.
This video is focused on power, starting position, and ideas. If you disagree with me thats totally fine. just please be civil and dont get mad about my opinions.
Title of Video: STRONGEST NATIONS TO PICK IN A BIG EU4 MP LOBBY TIER LIST - 2021 UPDATED!!
Title of last video: EU4 - HOW HABIBI MADE THE MIN KINGDOM A GREAT POWER IN A 75 PLAYER MP LOBBY - Min Multiplayer Part 2
Editor: Absolute Habibi
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Munster and Thomund in Ireland have Settler Increase in their ideas but it's near the end of their idea set
@@tiger2498 ty for info
A shame your reasoning for Vijayanagar got cut out I was waiting for that lol
What is your opinion on Rothenburg ? Its just an OPM in the HRE at the start. But its ideas a incredibly strong.
@@AbsoluteHabibi can you do a video of best mp nations under 100 dev
Imagine being good enough to play in mp
you dont even need to be good just have good diplomacy
@@nexos634 yeah the key is diplomacy, all the skill based stuff you will learn as you play, you only get better when you play vs better players
Imagine having good internet to play mp
As Byz in his lobby, I lived for around ~100 years with diplo
Mostly due to generous allies tbh
Didn't know you could play as nations in this game
LIES! We all know that Cilli is an S tier country!
DONT TELL THEM THEY ARENT READY FOR THIS INFORMATION YET
The people don't need to know the 200 discipline of Cilli.
Cilli can recruit the mujahideen.
don't be Cilli, they are stronger than Russia
Cilli is the new and powerful ulm
Would be interesting to see a massive mp game with the players
fighting Jan Mayen or the Synthetics or both.
:) you are going to like the next Custom nations lobby
@@AbsoluteHabibi we're going to suffer. :(
@@AbsoluteHabibi LETS GOOOOO
watch habibis stream on saturday
@@nexos634 its spawning right next to you as well.
I don’t know if calling Russia’s tier group the SS tier was a good idea
Thats the german group
S+. Don't wanna get taken down from twitch
It's RuSSia tier
it is
Russian reichcommissariat
Habibi: Russia is SS tier. Germany: Am I a joke to you?
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@@adwans1491 The SS was a thing in nazi germany. They did bad shit.
Would you put Scandinavia in S tier among formables for 50 bucks
never actually played in a MP lobby, but i guess this will be usefull in he future for me. btw, great stream yesterday حبيبي
Imagine chilling in Europe and you just start hearing muffled Pillar Men theme from the USA...
Great video, just bought the game a week ago and your video gave me some idea of how strong countries are.
thanks againa andagain habibi... imhaving so much fun cause of u and i a super newbie in this game and i dropped it cause i coundlnt understand a thing , till i found u . keep it up
Great video! Really gets me excited to play mp
Absolutely habibi’ed up this video bro
Man, eu4 is just a callculator + map simulator and yet it's so fun
Literally they entire point is to paint the map but its so fun for no reason
Nice video, i wanted to see something about andalucia, but its ok, waiting for idea group tierlist or something like that
You should check out the Date ideas, they're my favourite Japanese minor since they're so geared toward uniting Japan, you can play extremely tall and then take Japanese ideas once Japan has United to be more viable militarily and navally
Japan's ideas are medium. Only good for a bit colonization. I prefer odas ideas. Much more militaristic
Mfw you play in a very small lobby and the austrian player PUs all of central europe in the first 50 years
Good luck to everyone going for the dlc. I like the guides
Havent played multiplayer but this is very interesting, thanks.
I really like you did a tier list. It is debatable.
Great video! Thanks
Would have mentioned Munster as an Irish minor gets +15 settlers mid-late in their ideas, it's not much but they're the most ideal Colonial Irish minor
Good video as always
Thanks for the content!
Thanks for the DLC man.
How is ulm not on this tierlist
He doesn't want people to know that if they play it they can conquer the world by 1500 so he kept it out for himself
Uh, about what do you talk? Ulm is over Russia, so you don't see it, but it is clearly here.
Saw Russia and was sooo expecting the Soviet anthem to play when ya started with them, even heard it in my head.
As the pope, you might not have super strong militaristic ideas, but your government reform actually gives fairly strong militaristic bonuses, such as +10% morale and Negative army tradition decay
ya thats the strength of Theocracies
never played multiplayer but still liked the video
you should do an MP game where timurids and ming are both played by some really good players, just to see those two dominate and perhaps be stopped by massive alliances.
timurids are not that good, but ming just breaks games. Timurids dies most times in competitive lobbies if players are of equal skill. The reason why timurids arent good is because they have a lot of enemies and can easily die before they integrate vassals.
Habibi is spiting facts!
Swiss space marines might be an interesting attempt to make
goated
idk if you intentionally skipped them or not, but I would be interested in your reasoning for placing Bahmanis, Vijayanagar, and Mewar where you did. Do you think its possible to form a strong Rajputana in a large lobby (that probably has Delhi and Bengal players)? Also, do you think it's viable for VJ to switch to Muslim and form Deccan?
When i can barely beat england as france but keep watching these professional vids
I have never played competative multiplayer for EU4. Maybe 2021 is my year. At least this gives me a headstart :)
I am pretty happy that you ranked hesse so high. It is a really fun nation Imo.
Me: Not even knowing how to play multiplayer. Habibi: 1 HOUR VIDEO ON MULTIPLAYER NATIONS.
also your music is super chill for this, very enjoyable
Could do a video about republics in mp and how to get 666? Could be interesting like your ortho and Shinto videos :)
I did a single player game as madyas where I flipped to a pirate republic. Hindu+war against the world+ humanist ideas made me have 0 rebels. Wouldve been a WC if I had the attentionspan for the late game.
Would be really cool with a Muscovy MP guide Habibi
About the great horde
If you change to monarchy using the governamet reforms while being cristian you get eastern tech
What mods do you usually play with on those mp games?
Also how would you rank the colonial nations?
Damn this still is a cool video
in my games, its usually Orissa that kills Bengal every time so its funny its the opposite for you.
NovOMgorod :P
Okay, I shut up. I've learned a lot while watching your channel. I was more a dev-oriented player (and not really efficient at that) and I was regulary eaten in MP lobby. It's not that I am better, but I guess I understand now a little more why I was eaten so easily
Absolute Habibis absolute mad states
How about Formable new world nations, any tier list? Stuff like Vermont, US, Mexico, Texas where you have a choice.
not that i will win this but i had to give you the engagement now that there is something in it for me.
Would love to see a role paly mp with habibi
Lol I've never played multiplayer so IDK why i'm watching this but good video anyway
Me having never played a good mp- Great
I have watched many mp lobbies but I don’t understand how your economies are good enough to support so many troops. In my campaigns I can ever go near force limit without losing money. Any advice?
yes i would also give muscovy its own tier after seeing russia bringing 1 million stack to battle just like nothing
We need theocracy reform video. They've become so much better in the current patch
What do you think about Hanover ?? They have pretty good ideas also, -15% fire damage received, +5% land fire and 5% discipline
good formable but i prefer westphalia for force limit
I sometimes pick württemberg to swabia kinda alternate to baviera. pretty good ideas for mid game
true
i dont even play mp eu4 and im watching this tier list
Heresy! Bavaria best tag 10/10
Hey. I like your channel ;* good luck
are you still gonna make tier list for government reforms for theocracies/republics? would like to see that
i keep trying to do it but all of them are in top tiers lol
nice advices
I think Jaunpur is way better at reforming Dehli then Sirhind because they can full annex Dehli and then get reconquest claims on all of his vassals so you can annex Sirhind in one day. Also Northern India is really good land with a lot of good trade goods.
I love you habibi
Tunis Stronk, 20% galley combat ability is nothing to sneeze at
Oh and raiding coasts that makes the euro seethe
I disagree with Ottomans and Mamluks, even if the Mamluks may be the better pick, I think Ottomans can easily conscript Janissaries. Mehmed has 6 Military Skill, so it’s easy to conscript them and get the Military Technology 4 before the Mamluks. That came down when I played the Ottomans :D Overall this is a nice tier list to think about next Multiplayer picks
no, the ottomans should not recruit jannisaries in the 1st war. the stuff happening in your singleplayer game is irrelevant.
You should play some mods, Anbennar and Elder Scrolls Universalis look pretty good.
In a more casual lobby I'm in there is a player pulling off the Dalmatia start.
Shinto Pope playthrough pls
they should make a formable country for bohemia, maybe like union between poland and bohemia to form west slavia or something like that
Ternate is still one of the most banned starting nations. Even after it got nerfed like no other nation again and again. It's banned it almost any mp game if you don't run it with friends.^^
I'm from Bavaria, so I think this is the best nation to play^^
I’m from Russia ,so I think is the best nation to play^^
@Jean Sanchez wait until you got colonized ;)
@Jean Sanchez start for a British prison and colonize Australia
31:23 what? Did recording get messed up or??
Is mewar any good in mp? Their military ideas are nuts.
Why are the Aliens not in this Tierlist? :P
I Really like to play with my friend, Castille/ Spain and Portugal
Pretty sure you change your tech when you switch out of horde through government reforms and it depends on religion. So if you’re an Orthodox Great Horde, you’ll become Eastern tech
really?
@@AbsoluteHabibi I only ever saw that when I was fiddling around with the console, I find hordes too easy in sp so I don’t play them :D But that was like a month ago, so not too far back
Might join one of those mp servers
Just kinda suck at the game tho
I personally think oda should be rated S because theire ideas are sp great + if you survive the early game and you play tall you can become one of the greatest empires ever know to humanity. And with naval ideas you wont get conquered
Can't wait to see the video 'How I caused the massacre of the number people in #tier-lists.'
iïergh! I'm gonna write anything! That's gonna be my comment!
the cat needs to chill out Fr fr too much energy
I think I'll pick Haida
me when i am talking to someone who doesn't play eu4: "play eu4"
Wait, isn't Anatolian tech group stronger pip wise early game than Muslim?
not until tech 5
Noice habibibi
I would rank the Irish minors at C, I've seen Irish players ally England and form a pirate confederacy to pillage and pirate the Seville and Caribean trade node
What tier is iceland?? heard that they are op in mp
What is that amazing music please ?
Darn I was totally gonna comment 'anything' but you had already read my mind so I guess I'llhave to comment...
something else
75 multiplayer in antebellum that would be really fun
soon
Hey homie, I was wondering about getting into organized eu4 mp, not the best but if is started small to learn the ways I could still have fun. However, I was wondering what days are most common for the lobbies to host. I only really have 1 day off cuz of school and work. Any info is great if you have any, thanks homie
Ya most lobbies go on one day per week. For example my entire USA series altogether is over like 9-10 weeks of gameplay. There’s some links in description for discord servers that host
@@AbsoluteHabibi you are a g thanks man
Me watches again, sees crimea F tier and memorizes the gecko crimea monkaS
That Crimea was giga tuned. It had revamped ideas, more starting land, and a mission that gives a bunch of development and perma claims on Russia region
Nice
I think korea is high D low C because there starting religious situation is somthing you can deal with either via diplomacy with the Japanese player or beating the Japanese player last one is unlikley though.
Also you can go for korea into Manchu which is real fun assuming there is not another manchu player.
Still I somewhat get what your saying with bad events I have noticed I get a bit more bad events there not that much more though.
Edit okay no way there worse than Bukhara.
What happened to the lil sun country in A tier?
Thats Mewar! I noticed after publishing too that I accidentally skipped over them, they are very strong military Indian nation with one of the best military ideas in the area. Mid and Late game is all about stacking your discipline and combat ability with events and missions to win big wars. I give them A tier since they are strong but hard to play.
I've always wanted to join a big EU4 multiplayer but I'm way to bad at the game for this. I'd be a liability to whatever allies I may have. I can barely have a succesful campaign in singleplayer....
26:16 a screen i can relate to and it makes me sad