I have a feeling this set is going to be very fondly remembered by players who get into the game with it, it seems like a perfect encapsulation of magic
I think it's feeling at about the right place for a long-term set. There's not much in it that is going to be jammed into *every* deck so that you get sick of seeing it, or big 'feel bads' like exile sweepers, but it still provides solid staples. Calling it 'foundations' really hit the nail on the head I think. They delivered on that design intent. It's providing a lot of cards that can make up the base of a build but not cards that will define builds.
I think in general they did a good job with the power level, making stuff strong enough that some decks will want it, but avoiding stuff like Sheoldred or Fable of the Mirror-Breaker that goes in every deck.
"French Vanilla" to describe a creature card that just has keywords but no activated/triggered abilities may be the best term I've ever heard and one I'm definitely using from this day forward.
I think Foundations was a wonderful idea to make Standard more accessible. But they immediately blew that with 6 standard sets a year so we're right back to Standard not being a paper-viable format.
Via various markets, I've got a total of 20 (pre)ordered, with 2 foils. Cost was £60 all in. Feels like a decent hedge in case these end up as rare as this video suggests.
Quit complaining about the reprints. At the end of the day, these are GAME PIECES that should be accessible at an affordable price to the player base. Magic cards != stock market.
Found the brain washed sheep. Their collectible game pieces. If all cards were less than 5$ like you want, no one would play because it’d be boring to collect.
@@entertainmentinc9735 "brain washed sheep" followed by "Their collectible" is hilarious. Oh, and the magic community doesn't play this game to collect. We collect to play. This is not Pokémon.
@@entertainmentinc9735 insane to suggest if all cards were less than $5 the game would die. if anything i think it would thrive. anyone can play any deck in any format and not feel that barrier of entry in something live modern, much less legacy/vintage. hell even $100+ for a reasonable standard deck is enough to make some people not do it.
@@wishwaraich9999 Speak for yourself. I don't play with any of the most expensive cards I own. They aren't even legal in any format. Besides, if what you were saying were true, then Collector's Boxes wouldn't exist, since the only reason to buy them is to get more expensive versions of cheaper cards, but they always sell like crazy. If you've ever been to a MagicCon, you'll quickly realise how huge the collector side of the game is. The whales are what are keeping this game going, not the people building decks purely to play.
This is the first set Im going deep in. Preordered 6 collector booster boxes to see what happens. Excited to have these be standard legal for 5 years, hopefully enough to balance out the insane about UB stuff also being standard legal.
Honestly, the cost of purchasing boxes really feels more expensive than buying singles for me. I get what I want without all the chaff. I do miss the fun though. Love your content by the way.
@@EricAbroadFacts! I’ve been getting my adrenaline high from watching all these unboxing videos! 🥴 In retrospect, I’m glad I’ve decided to buy singles as all the cards I want they haven’t been pulling from multiple boxes!
Fun Fact! When Solemn Simulacrum was being created, Yens 1st created it as a multicolor card called Forestfolk. With Mirrordin being the next set to release, WOTC made it an artifact and the rest is history.
No. The chain veil is literally a veil made of chain it has its own card. The mask looks like a Theros underworld mask. No idea why she wears it though.
What booster box would you suggest buying to try and get the most value back currently? I was thinking of trading some of my older cards for a new collector booster box
"preposterous proportions" is really good in commander, you get to attack and potentially wipe out everyone at once or deal huge damage, make them lose their board or lots of HP while you get to keep your creatures and defend on the next turns
I was excited for foundations before they announced just how many standard sets there will be next year, it feels like there’s no point to try to make a deck since whatever you make will probably be needing upgrades as soon as you get the singles since the next set will already be dropping soon I’d like to be able to play the standard tournaments at my lgs, but it just feels like there’s too many releases to play it in paper
That new over run style card with no evasion on it will be amazing in decks that are already evasion heavy. It's going right into a Slime Against Humanity deck.
bro got the best imo etali, best abrade imo ever and the alternate art lemure pp probably doesnt know the back story but that alternate art has a really cool back story when the artist accidentally submitted a piece of a lemur instead of the demune thing they were asking for but that was a fire pack even if it wasnt super valuable. .
So, I agree on loot, it's a weird concept and it is freaking hideous. Kellan seems like a "new Jace" type main character, which is annoying. Time Stop is kinda ok as it exiles itself and allows an untap step, which is a pretty big difference over a simple Time Warp. I still use my Alpha/Beta Llanowar Elves, so I have not even payed attention to the other treatments, but I am an anime fan so I do like the anime treatments. Lunar Insight will always draw you a single card as lands have a 0 cmc. Green is in a bad way even with "forest elf, go. t2 forest arch druid, go" starts because pyroclasm and slagstorm exist. The white enchantment that brings things back by angels is still kinda cool because you can play it and swing or play it when you have aristocrat pieces in play.
I feel like having prices on something like this is very confusing/misleading. The prices already are showing up as vastly higher or lower on TCGplayer for a variety of cards here. Like the bloodthirsty conqueror is going for $30 rn(from a bunch of different sellers), but even that is a drop from $40 a few days ago. That was the standard card too, not foil or anything. The pricing on all of these seems like a bad way to judge this especially prerelease.
@@loganparry2676 It started a video or few back. He also says at the end of this vid. The thought process is expected value from a box generally halves after prices settle. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't really. Less views if no prices, people complain if there are. I think his current set up is prolly as good as it gets for early openings.
I like core sets. Ever since hearthstone did their core update a few years back, it improved class balance a lot. Quinn Tonole's list had one set of pump spells. Red can play aggro cards
As an old player I wanted to hate this set for its print run and rotation but, at least they are cool. Super nice art, cool variance artwork for a lot of cards
I gotta say i’m building a janky red green blue progenitus standard deck. The whole theme is manifest dread and cheat progenitus out through either yarus or hauntwoods shrieker abilities or use kona rescue beastie to cheat out either progenitus or omniscience.
20:16 - Liliana's "mask" is The Chain Veil. 41:30 - that Rise of the Dark Realms appears to have a minor misprint with a little bubble in the middle of it.
If you look at Duskmourn, the Japanese text versions of the showcase cards are actually less valuable than English. Sure they are only 33% in English boosters, but in Japanese boosters, its 100%, so it mostly balances out. Also, like most modern foreign cards, the demand for them are way lower, resulting in many stores undercutting prices just to get a sale.
Lovestruck beast sees a little bit of play in pioneer as a 5/5 with downside + an adventure to reduce its downside. So, 3 mana 5/5 vanilla would probably see play.
Its a great way to get into modern magic to play casual standard, or a cmdr precon level product to get cmdr players to diversity a little. Sadly for people who used to play standard, rotational change and additive change are very different and the latter misses a lot of what made standard a good base format to play for 20 years. Man, yknow what really showcases the history and nostalgia of this core set? Japanese Anime cards in otherwise all english packs! Just like, yknow what really celebrates ravnica in a set all about the hits of ravnica blocks? Japanese anime cards!
Just started playing mtg this year (technically last year but Markov was my first pre release). I've been excited about this set since it was announced and whenever I tell my friends that they're always like "huh??" I'm just really excited to get a solid collection going that's not full of oddball mechanics. I really enjoy the oddball mechanics but as a new player I'm looking forward to seeing more boring classic shit that I can put in pretty much any deck instead of being like eh it has ring tempt/venture into the dungeon etc
I swear, everyone I've seen unbox this stuff early on here has been getting stuff like Twinflame Tyrant averaging two or three times per box or at least twice per box. This has me thinking this is either more common than the packs say this time around, which will drop the pricing, or they've given UA-camrs who open these somewhat stacked boxes somehow, which will lead average players to possibly buy more of them with higher hopes of getting these cards. Or this could be usual I guess? I've never paid for or opened collector boxes before.
Is the long rotation any different from what we already have? It felt like Sheoldred made games *painful* for half a decade, much like how standard will be a "Is it more then 1-3 mana? UNPLAYABLE DUE TO MONO RED" hell for a looooooooooong time...
You should do a update to this video (replay it with new audio if you wish) with updated pricing after the set releases to see price changes on cards. Was it worth the preorder price hype?
He's using the pre-sale prices, but decreasing them by about half to account for the inflated prices in pre-sale. It's not perfect, but the numbers on Duskmourn were at least *closer* to the actual prices when he did it that way.
IVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT INVENTATIONAL CARDS BECOMING NOT THE PERSON THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE FOR SO LONG. since modern masters 2015 giving us a new bob and a new snappy.
Foundations better be in print for the next 5 years if they want it to be a base line set. But knowing Ha$bro, it'll only be printed once this and it'll be gone.
22:45 Aaaarrhh..You've got an akward blister there, huh.. That's for cycling through your cards so daaarn fast, that I miss how to read them.. 😂😂 Bwa-ha-haaarg. Anyway.. I like your show.. 👍
They're called "Mana Foils," not fractured foils. It should be easy to see the difference between something that looks like the foiling is fractured or "broken" and an embossed or "raised" mana symbol. Idk, maybe I'm just an asshole.
I have a feeling this set is going to be very fondly remembered by players who get into the game with it, it seems like a perfect encapsulation of magic
This set is going to be a banger even for enfranchised players. I'm sure I'm not the only one that is happy to see a set that isn't super pushed.
Its NOT good because it's making a lot of cards with value TANK
@@troonlegend8317 Good! More people can play them
@troonlegend8317 That's great news! Lower cost of entry for people to actually play the game! Happy to hear it.
@@troonlegend8317womp womp, go cry to daddy
I think it's feeling at about the right place for a long-term set. There's not much in it that is going to be jammed into *every* deck so that you get sick of seeing it, or big 'feel bads' like exile sweepers, but it still provides solid staples. Calling it 'foundations' really hit the nail on the head I think. They delivered on that design intent. It's providing a lot of cards that can make up the base of a build but not cards that will define builds.
I think in general they did a good job with the power level, making stuff strong enough that some decks will want it, but avoiding stuff like Sheoldred or Fable of the Mirror-Breaker that goes in every deck.
"French Vanilla" to describe a creature card that just has keywords but no activated/triggered abilities may be the best term I've ever heard and one I'm definitely using from this day forward.
You can search scryfall for french vanilla creatures
I think Foundations was a wonderful idea to make Standard more accessible. But they immediately blew that with 6 standard sets a year so we're right back to Standard not being a paper-viable format.
I thought I wasn't going to hear the buglar rat sound but I'm glad you finally saw it
gotta love Hare Apparent being the elusive secret mythic common rarity.
Via various markets, I've got a total of 20 (pre)ordered, with 2 foils. Cost was £60 all in. Feels like a decent hedge in case these end up as rare as this video suggests.
Are commons less likely to open in collector boosters?
This was the only card I was looking out for 😂
I for one had a hearty chuckle at the drakuseth joke
Quit complaining about the reprints.
At the end of the day, these are GAME PIECES that should be accessible at an affordable price to the player base. Magic cards != stock market.
Found the brain washed sheep. Their collectible game pieces. If all cards were less than 5$ like you want, no one would play because it’d be boring to collect.
Who was complaining about reprints?
@@entertainmentinc9735 "brain washed sheep" followed by "Their collectible" is hilarious. Oh, and the magic community doesn't play this game to collect. We collect to play. This is not Pokémon.
@@entertainmentinc9735 insane to suggest if all cards were less than $5 the game would die. if anything i think it would thrive. anyone can play any deck in any format and not feel that barrier of entry in something live modern, much less legacy/vintage. hell even $100+ for a reasonable standard deck is enough to make some people not do it.
@@wishwaraich9999 Speak for yourself. I don't play with any of the most expensive cards I own. They aren't even legal in any format.
Besides, if what you were saying were true, then Collector's Boxes wouldn't exist, since the only reason to buy them is to get more expensive versions of cheaper cards, but they always sell like crazy. If you've ever been to a MagicCon, you'll quickly realise how huge the collector side of the game is. The whales are what are keeping this game going, not the people building decks purely to play.
This is the first set Im going deep in. Preordered 6 collector booster boxes to see what happens. Excited to have these be standard legal for 5 years, hopefully enough to balance out the insane about UB stuff also being standard legal.
That Twinflame Tyrant full art jp text pull is WILD!! 😭😭😭
Made the whole opening worth it.
Not putting it in sleeves and slamming it on the pile gave my crazy heartpumping
Honestly, the cost of purchasing boxes really feels more expensive than buying singles for me. I get what I want without all the chaff. I do miss the fun though. Love your content by the way.
the adrenaline rush is what you pay for when you open boxes. Fun for a set you're excited for, but not necessarily financially smart.
Buy singles!
@@EricAbroadFacts! I’ve been getting my adrenaline high from watching all these unboxing videos! 🥴
In retrospect, I’m glad I’ve decided to buy singles as all the cards I want they haven’t been pulling from multiple boxes!
Seth- Is that card scratched?
Also Seth - The art on that card is so sweet!
Never change bud
I am really hyped for this set! I saved 300 euros for this one. Which is hella lot for me to spend on MTG.
Fun Fact!
When Solemn Simulacrum was being created, Yens 1st created it as a multicolor card called Forestfolk. With Mirrordin being the next set to release, WOTC made it an artifact and the rest is history.
This affirmed my theory that if there’s a common that can have any number in a deck you will almost never see it.
it makes sense to me like this, rather than print 5 core sets that all or most have a blood artist or reanimate, we just get the one that lasts longer
this set is REALLY low on $$$ value but is super high on quality and vibes.
Seth Seth Seth... you own us for the @42:56 DrakuSeth joke
The mask on Liliana is the chain veil no?
No. The chain veil is literally a veil made of chain it has its own card. The mask looks like a Theros underworld mask. No idea why she wears it though.
It is 100% the chainveil lol
What booster box would you suggest buying to try and get the most value back currently? I was thinking of trading some of my older cards for a new collector booster box
"preposterous proportions" is really good in commander, you get to attack and potentially wipe out everyone at once or deal huge damage, make them lose their board or lots of HP while you get to keep your creatures and defend on the next turns
I was excited for foundations before they announced just how many standard sets there will be next year, it feels like there’s no point to try to make a deck since whatever you make will probably be needing upgrades as soon as you get the singles since the next set will already be dropping soon
I’d like to be able to play the standard tournaments at my lgs, but it just feels like there’s too many releases to play it in paper
I'm just upset they didn't put a Jace in this set 😭
I believe Jace was left out because he had the wrong sex and skin tone.
@Coyote1911 🫢🫢🫢🫢
@@Coyote1911 you gotta be stupid
@@Coyote1911be less soft
@@Coyote1911 wizards said why he was left out and it has nothing to do with that.
That new over run style card with no evasion on it will be amazing in decks that are already evasion heavy. It's going right into a Slime Against Humanity deck.
How does the pricing work in these openings? Are they estimated prices?
I don't know what that is, but it is not a Llanowar elf.
bro got the best imo etali, best abrade imo ever and the alternate art lemure pp probably doesnt know the back story but that alternate art has a really cool back story when the artist accidentally submitted a piece of a lemur instead of the demune thing they were asking for but that was a fire pack even if it wasnt super valuable. .
Are the collector boxes over priced at the moment since it’s not out yet?
Got into magic in the middle of the duskmourn release so this will be my first full release ever, feel like i picked the perfect time lol
Where did you get these prices from? They seem way off from what Im seeing on TCG Market and Ebay.
So, I agree on loot, it's a weird concept and it is freaking hideous.
Kellan seems like a "new Jace" type main character, which is annoying.
Time Stop is kinda ok as it exiles itself and allows an untap step, which is a pretty big difference over a simple Time Warp.
I still use my Alpha/Beta Llanowar Elves, so I have not even payed attention to the other treatments, but I am an anime fan so I do like the anime treatments.
Lunar Insight will always draw you a single card as lands have a 0 cmc.
Green is in a bad way even with "forest elf, go. t2 forest arch druid, go" starts because pyroclasm and slagstorm exist.
The white enchantment that brings things back by angels is still kinda cool because you can play it and swing or play it when you have aristocrat pieces in play.
Love every new set Seth’s spends half the video wondering if his regular foil card is whatever the sets special foil is called. 😅
Will they also reprint the collector boxes?
I feel like having prices on something like this is very confusing/misleading. The prices already are showing up as vastly higher or lower on TCGplayer for a variety of cards here. Like the bloodthirsty conqueror is going for $30 rn(from a bunch of different sellers), but even that is a drop from $40 a few days ago. That was the standard card too, not foil or anything. The pricing on all of these seems like a bad way to judge this especially prerelease.
Did you pay attention to the prices? He halves them now.
They use cardkingdom for prices it’s their sponsor
@ never saw or heard him say he was halving the prices
Yeah but it’s cool to see. We all should know they fluctuate daily.
@@loganparry2676 It started a video or few back. He also says at the end of this vid. The thought process is expected value from a box generally halves after prices settle. It's a damned if you do damned if you don't really. Less views if no prices, people complain if there are. I think his current set up is prolly as good as it gets for early openings.
I like core sets. Ever since hearthstone did their core update a few years back, it improved class balance a lot. Quinn Tonole's list had one set of pump spells. Red can play aggro cards
Love this set for what it can provide for new AND existing players, but 5 years seems a bit long. Think 3 would've been a nice sweet spot.
Mana symbol foiling isn't fractured. You'll know the fractured when you see it, it'll bling like a diamonds
Scince bloomburrow standard has been ramping up.
Proposterous Proportions art is epic. Gonna have to get that for my daughter who loves lemurs.
That war elf is beautiful. I'd play with that in my deck it's pretty.
bloodthirsty conquerer is dangerous to say because it gets spit on it xD
Dude talks like Barney
Having a 5 year rotation is good, if the core of your deck is built around foundations and you just sub in a few cards every time a set rotates
There aren't two Kaito cards in Standard once Foundations releases, but rather, three. He was on the ONE squad.
I really want enough Hare Apparent copies to rebuild my Baylen deck to be a true rabbit tribal build. But I know they won't be cheap
As an old player I wanted to hate this set for its print run and rotation but, at least they are cool. Super nice art, cool variance artwork for a lot of cards
I gotta say i’m building a janky red green blue progenitus standard deck. The whole theme is manifest dread and cheat progenitus out through either yarus or hauntwoods shrieker abilities or use kona rescue beastie to cheat out either progenitus or omniscience.
The only cards I'm really getting are the Hares because I want a deck of each color with "play any number of these".
Would love to see an update short with how prices have moved on this in a few weeks!
20:16 - Liliana's "mask" is The Chain Veil.
41:30 - that Rise of the Dark Realms appears to have a minor misprint with a little bubble in the middle of it.
Some of this pricing is so wrong it hurts.
If you look at Duskmourn, the Japanese text versions of the showcase cards are actually less valuable than English. Sure they are only 33% in English boosters, but in Japanese boosters, its 100%, so it mostly balances out. Also, like most modern foreign cards, the demand for them are way lower, resulting in many stores undercutting prices just to get a sale.
Does anyone have a count of how many Leyline Axes were opened? It has to be in the double digits.
That leyline axe is really nice for colors who don't have normal access to double strike but want it
Kind of a random place to ask but will they be reprinting foundations every year to keep up supply?
come to see cards, stayed for the Telecaster with the Blood Moon :O
Give the dragon to the Cat Seth,… then send it this way :) :) cheers my friends and always love and laughter in your lives!
Wotc should have just turned ragavan into the series’ “pikachu”
kkk i love we’re in november and seth still struggles to understand what a fractured foil is ❤❤❤
KKK?
You missed one Hare Apparent but im not going to look at the timestamp but I was confused because you didn't add it to the price of the box.
I'm gald you said it... was bugging me. 😂 Maybe it was a Hare Not Apparent 😑
I guess Layline Axe is the new Snarl in collector packs
Lovestruck beast sees a little bit of play in pioneer as a 5/5 with downside + an adventure to reduce its downside. So, 3 mana 5/5 vanilla would probably see play.
Its a great way to get into modern magic to play casual standard, or a cmdr precon level product to get cmdr players to diversity a little.
Sadly for people who used to play standard, rotational change and additive change are very different and the latter misses a lot of what made standard a good base format to play for 20 years.
Man, yknow what really showcases the history and nostalgia of this core set? Japanese Anime cards in otherwise all english packs! Just like, yknow what really celebrates ravnica in a set all about the hits of ravnica blocks? Japanese anime cards!
Just started playing mtg this year (technically last year but Markov was my first pre release). I've been excited about this set since it was announced and whenever I tell my friends that they're always like "huh??" I'm just really excited to get a solid collection going that's not full of oddball mechanics. I really enjoy the oddball mechanics but as a new player I'm looking forward to seeing more boring classic shit that I can put in pretty much any deck instead of being like eh it has ring tempt/venture into the dungeon etc
ironically, hero's downfall experienced a hero's downfall
Well if you get tired of so many of those lemur cards… I am a zookeeper who takes care of lemurs 🥺
SETH YOU SPAT ON THE BLOODTHIRSTY CONQUEROR
When Foundations will arrive to Magic Arena?
I swear, everyone I've seen unbox this stuff early on here has been getting stuff like Twinflame Tyrant averaging two or three times per box or at least twice per box. This has me thinking this is either more common than the packs say this time around, which will drop the pricing, or they've given UA-camrs who open these somewhat stacked boxes somehow, which will lead average players to possibly buy more of them with higher hopes of getting these cards.
Or this could be usual I guess? I've never paid for or opened collector boxes before.
I love the Japanese art Llanowar Elves specifically.
I have never needed an alternate art so badly haha
Is the long rotation any different from what we already have? It felt like Sheoldred made games *painful* for half a decade, much like how standard will be a "Is it more then 1-3 mana? UNPLAYABLE DUE TO MONO RED" hell for a looooooooooong time...
Sire goes so good in modern tron 31:57 its gonna be a fat staple in it
You should do a update to this video (replay it with new audio if you wish) with updated pricing after the set releases to see price changes on cards. Was it worth the preorder price hype?
Dude said, "Fracture foil." like 1000 times this video
Why? Why didn’t u buy a reserved list card? I get it. You are being paid by Wotc to shill, but why betray people by selling hopes and dreams?😢
I thought that Progenitus card was a Shadow Era card when you pulled it. If anyone remember that game. You know what I mean.
What is the point of showing the prices before release? Even now, , many of these cards have tanked in “value”.
are you using prices from the older sets? Pre-released prices are just too inflated.
He's using the pre-sale prices, but decreasing them by about half to account for the inflated prices in pre-sale. It's not perfect, but the numbers on Duskmourn were at least *closer* to the actual prices when he did it that way.
2:20 isn't that card 100+? or is the lack of fracture foil the reason its not?
Actually Pikachu was originally not meant to be the mascot Pokémon. I believe it was supposed to be Eevee
IVE BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT INVENTATIONAL CARDS BECOMING NOT THE PERSON THEY WERE DESIGNED TO BE FOR SO LONG. since modern masters 2015 giving us a new bob and a new snappy.
The leyline axes can be used for affinity with stuff from phyrexia like the 6 drop nahiri
Must be fun opening $1200 worth of free product.
I feel like there’s a whole other RDW non prowess deck that could be super strong in standard.
That twinflame is at a 100 and going diwn
Idk, if I was opening over $1000 worth of a set I might look up the special treatments you can get.
I would like to trade for one of your Leyline Axes. What are you looking for?
Foundations better be in print for the next 5 years if they want it to be a base line set. But knowing Ha$bro, it'll only be printed once this and it'll be gone.
Great content Seth
Core sets were and always will be the best.
20:23 that's the titular veil from Liliana of the Veil and Garruk the Veil-Cursed.
Wouldn't this be pre-release pricing for cards making it extremely unreliable right now?
I am not sure if I am buying a box or not. might stick with singles that are good after hype dyes down.
I do not imagine these cards staying above 10 dollars after a 5 year print
22:45 Aaaarrhh..You've got an akward blister there, huh.. That's for cycling through your cards so daaarn fast, that I miss how to read them.. 😂😂 Bwa-ha-haaarg. Anyway.. I like your show.. 👍
Sire of seven deaths:
E-L-D-R-A-Z-I 🤯
high society hunter is persale like 50 bones with the mana foil treatment its like the step and complete treatment
They're called "Mana Foils," not fractured foils. It should be easy to see the difference between something that looks like the foiling is fractured or "broken" and an embossed or "raised" mana symbol. Idk, maybe I'm just an asshole.
I had to pause at 2:16 cause that progenitus was ugh🥶💦🤌
Remember folks these are pre order prices they will drop hard soon