Does Taste Matter in Classical Music?
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Isn't Classical Music the highest form of music? The highest form of all art?
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The work at the start is Haydn's Quartet Op76 no 1: • Vera Quartet: HAYDN - ...
Video: "Does Taste Matter in Classical Music?"
Liszt: "New wine needs new barrels."
Absolutely correct sentiment in this video. Beware of "enthusiasts" Who seem to hate 95% of what they are enthusiastic about. I had at points in my life written off Haydn, Lizst, Brahms, and even Mozart as booorrring, until a piece by each of them moved me to tears. Now I don't write off anyone, I just listen and absorb and get hungry for more.
In Ratatouille, Anton Ego has this to say about food: "I don't like food, I love food. And if I don't love it, I spit it out of my mouth." If we eat three meals a day, and live 80 years, then that's 3x365.25x80=87,660. Ego has less than 90k meals to enjoy. So if he eats a meal which he doesn't love, then that is a wasted meal.
This is something I've been thinking about in music. I listen to baroque, classical romantic, film/game score, rock, CCM, Gospel, hymns, country, bluegrass, Israeli, metal, punk, and various other sub-genres. I have playlists in the hundreds of hours of music, playlists with multiple thousand songs in them. This year I have sought to expand my music by listening to even more music, asking people for recommendations, learning as much as I can about different artists, such as Beethoven, Elgar, Telemann, Vivaldi, Bach, Tchaikovsky, Dragonnetti, Botasinni, Paganini, Duke Ellington, Frankie Valle and the Four Seasons, The Sensations, Earth Wind Fire, Jimi Hendrix, Yes, Rush, Journey, Boston, Jaco Pastorius, Flea, Yellowcard, Greenday, Skillet, Garth Brooks, Tim McGraw, Faith Hill, Newsong, Selah, Israel Houghton, Todd Dulaney, Maverick City, Keith and Kristin Getty, Sovereign Grace. Who has time to learn all this music? Of course, nobody is forcing me to learn it.
After awhile trying to seek out broadening my musical tastes, I have resorted back to listening to older songs that I'm more familiar with. I am truly greatful that I journeyed to learn more music, and many songs/pieces I have come across will certainly stay in my regular cycle for the foreseeable future. I will also likely do more explorations in the future to learn more songs. But I have come across the value of locking in what you really do enjoy and appreciate. You only have so much time to listen to music, so make sure you enjoy what you are listening too.
For me the more music I listen to, the more I struggle to find time to listen to what I love, since there so many masterpieces and great composers put there... one could be listening al his life to only Bach or Beethoven and still would not have taken the most of them, and there are a bunch of composers one could say the same. BTW, pedant comment sorry: the distribution of flavors "zones" on tongue is a myth debunked long ago. It still illustrates your point well though.
Excellent video and great knowledge regarding the wine. I'm probably going to share some of that among my filmfreinds in the future. (And as filmenthusiast who's got experience with many parts of filmproduction, I totally mirror your experience of composers to my collection of several filmdirectors.)
Thank you for another great video
Taste in Music can be very subjective. It's how you are introduced to music and it's myriad of different styles, even in Classical Music. I was lucky in that at my primary school I had a teacher who played on disc all kinds of Classical Music. The composer that interested me first and most immediately was Mozart. His Concerto's, then the symphonies, and so on. His Choral Music and Opera's became interesting to me when I reached Senior school. But then I found Hayden and Handel, and Vivaldi. Some Beethoven, but I found Beethoven.......... well lets be honest, the poor man just doesn't know how to end a work. Schubert I like so much but not in huge doses, and a bit of Brahms and some Schumann. Dvorak has some great works but after than the romantics do nothing for me.
As far as I am concerned, Tchaikovsky cannot string two themes together to save his life, and I like and agree with the Sir Thomas Beecham quote about Wagner: Wonderful moments but terrible half hours.
For me, and this is a later life discovery and love it's J.S. Bach. Wonderful half hours, and nothing terrible. Oh how I've got into fugues and counterpoint through him. He can make me cry, make me laugh, feel joyous, angry, in love, feel religious, (I'm not a God Botherer), feel human, and overwhelmingly just totally happy and explosively so such is the joy I get from him.
My taste in Classical Music has been a progression of self discovery. My musical education stopped when I was 11 years old. Yes I got a great start at primary school, thank God. But how, I wonder would things be different if I was brought up on 20th Century Music, and some of the modernistic rubbish that was composed during the last century.
I see UA-cam video's trying to explain to me why such and such Composer is so good and all the technical stuff that goes with it. I'm lost with that stuff. I have an ear, that tells me how great a piece of music is by listening to it. The Passaglia and Fugue of Bach is a THUNDEROUSLY WONDERFUL composition. My ear and brain tell me so. I don't need all these "experts" to tell me the technical reasons.
By the way, I love P.D.Q. Bach too.
I'm still trying to figure out if art is just the stuff we haven't been able to figure out the technical explanations for. If there were assembly instructions for all composed works, it then becomes all technical.
We have technical explanations for even the greatest music.
@@Tolstoy111 I think to prove that, one would need to be able to come up with only the greatest melody lines every time one attempted it.
@@rexwine inspiration is something else entirely.
@@Tolstoy111 Perhaps. but I'm thinking since Ai current programs can only approximate great compositions, either someone is not training what is known, or there is something else beyond what is known.
Whats the piece that plays at the beginning of the video?
It's the first movement from Haydn's quartet no 1 Op76. I've added a link to the description...go about 3.45 in for the lovely circle of fifths...oh and watch my video on circle of fifths as well! ua-cam.com/video/1PWc9QLf45c/v-deo.html
@@enjoyclassicalmusic6006 thx for the info!
1:21 what piece is this please?
It's from the Kyrie, Mass in Cm
@@enjoyclassicalmusic6006 Mozart. One of the all time great unfinished works. He left a few masses unfinished!
I would say no. Listen to what you enjoy.
I think that we need to differentiate between gut-response and heart-response. The winetaster response here exemplified differentiates (quite legitimately!) between rationalistic (categorial) and gut-heart responses - so only then is a second differentiation between gut- and heart- possible. Blaise Pascal (Pensées, 282) writes: "We understand truth not just with reason, but with our hearts ...". Thus, it is so important to cut the heart- (the spirit) away from the (purely doxastic) gut-response. The latter could - typically! - be moulded into the merely conformist (e.g. Germany post 1933) - nothing to do with the matter at hand! It is hearts and souls (and then the spirit) which classical music engages, not at all the guts.
1:00 Philosophy: the both-and versus the either-or.
Good taste is mine. Bad taste is yours, peasants.
This is the original, accurate definition.
Sounds like something a 15 year old boy would write