the eastwood reproduction of that guitar is far superior to the original valco airline guitar, which was an almost unplayable piece of junk. the one jack white played was extensively modified internally with a much larger wood block between the neck and the tailpiece so it would actually stay in tune and resonate properly and a lot of work was done to the neck as well.
It's crazy just how good the newer airlines are. Shortly after Elephant was released a bandmate of mine bought an Airline repro, and back then we all still thought Airlines, Silvertones, Danelectros and other pawn shop finds were just plastic junk, so imagine my surprise when I liked it more than both my Ibanez and my Fender. Turns out they were based on plastic junk, so I wasn't totally wrong.
I have four original Valco made guitars and they are fantastic in all respects. I tried an Eastwood or two and was underwhelmed. No go for me, unfortunately.
I’ve owned 3 of the original 2P red models and one of the original white 3P models. I’ve also owned 3 original wooden ones in the same body style and those were definitely worse then the resoglas ones. It’s not the fiberglass that makes it worse, it’s neglect and age. Nobody cared about these guitars for decades.
I actually took some of the rubber feet off of the treadle on my Whammy 4, because it had issues returning to neutral. I still love it though, and I’ve owned both the 4 and 5. The 4 has more mojo to my ears
this is the best jack white tone video I've ever seen, and I've been looking to get some of his tone since is saw him in 2014 at Red Rocks. Seriously well done.
I think the purpose of the Micro Amp is (yes, it gives a slight gain boost on the dirtier amp and a volume boost on the cleaner amp) to amplify the pick attack and raise the minimum volume floor; I noticed when you had the Micro Amp on, the "click" of your pick attack was much more pronounced. It also gives the sound overall harmonic richness without a lot of extra distortion, and the way it brings up the minimum volume is how he did the stutter trick for most of his career with some very careful fingerwork around muting. (I think he might use the Coppersound Telegraph now, and his signature pedal with them, the Triplegraph, just came out).
If you place the micro amp after the Big muff It allows to boost the volume of this pedal which is known to lost some volume. This is a trick for almost every fuzz pedals and It's a trick use by a lot of band.
Sounded really good to me. I too love that album, I think it’s the White Stripes best, personally. Well done, sir! I have been to Norway once, Oslo during an unusually warm summer. It was one of the most beautiful areas of the world that I’ve ever seen. Loved it.
After listening to Elephant a million times, it was the second time I ventured back into a bands album catalogue. Was definitely a pivotal point in my guitar playing and music listening, I never really thought about it until now but it really changed everything for me. As for these tones, close but I think it needs more chunk, there is something missing. Is the MXR Micro Amp not cranked all the way up? Great video as usual
Love that Silvertone amp. I’ve had one myself for a few years and couldn’t be happier with the sound and feel. You should try jumping the two channels together like you would an old plexi. This gives a lot more head room and tone shaping possiblities. Also it can get stupid loud
Wow you nailed it! And I thought you killed it in your old video with the JHS twin twelve years ago! 🤯 not just the tones but your playing was spot on especially the way he plays button to button live with the bass line! 🙌🤯🤘⚡️🎸🎛📻💥
LOVE me some Silvertones! I have a beautiful '66 1482 that I restored, but I'd still like to get a 1484 someday. Great video! Elephant was also a super important album to me back in the day, in high school and whatnot.. Lots of fond memories! ✌️
Love these videos man! I've been a big White Stripes fan for years and have been attempting to nail these tones and riffs since I picked up the electric guitar. A little trick I've been messing with lately is using the Old Blood Noise Endeavors Signal Blender to achieve what is usually only done in the studio. For example on Dead Leaves intro theres a second layer of cleaner guitar by the second measure (im guessing the Silvertone without the muff) and I layer that on top, then just remove the big muff signal on the verse parts, and vice versa for the chorus. Sounds very close to me. Thanks for taking the time to do these, I'm always learning something new from you!
i think above the gear is how you dial it in and play. jack has a really wild way of playing and his fuzz is usually set to be more high end focused. the stereo amps definitely help, the pitch shifter is important, but as long as you get one octave up and one octave down it doesn’t matter which one. i think mostly it’s about the gear, it’s how you use what basics you can get
The Muff models do vary a lot in basic shape, tone, and harmonic content.Jack W used the common NYC model, which is the same in mini reissue .The Russian mini would be another good choice, as it has wider tonal range. I'd avoid the OpAmp and the Rams Head, which are their own things. There are hundreds of copies and clones that would work well, - it's a popular circuit that is easy to tweak and modify. As always ,sounds great.Seemingly, we have similar taste in music.
Can you do one for the Icky Thump album?! I heard he used a Gretsch White Penguin for the whole thing. It's one of the rarest guitars, but maybe you can find a cheaper version of it like an electromatic.
Tone was really close but TBH I think that sound can be approximated with so much gear - which was why it was so good in the first place. It sounded like it had always been around - and proved that even in 2003 you could play blues based music in a way that was still innovative. Now, 20 years after Europe discovered the White Stripes - we finally have a worthy potential surrogate - the Courettes from Aalborg Denmark - so nearly Norway.
Twins are clean, but there is something about their pristine clarity with tubes that works, and they take pedals well, including dirt. A clean amp I did not connect with, but I only played once briefly, was the JC-120.
Veldig bra jobb, som vanlig Very good build quality on those Eastwood Airline guitars, I own a white '59 3p DLX which gives me a very good feel especially on the neck...that is once you get used to it and stop messing volume and tone knobs when you strum 😂 Pickups are ok (they are not Humbuckers btw), a very good clean tone in my opinion but a little..."anonimous", I'm about to upgrade the guitar with some SD Vintage Classic filter'trons and go for a Gretsch-ish sound 🤘🏻
There's a book with some photos from the session. I don't recall seeing the Silvertone, it was just the Twin and the Selmer, which was probably used for crunch tones, like Ball and Biscuit. As for pedals, he also used a Boss compressor. Although Jack used the Kay live for Seven Nation, in the studio I'd bet the was the Airline. He also brought the Crestwood Astral II.
Hello ! I've been watching your videos for quite some years and you've been very helpful so far, so thank you for that :) Out of context question here, what's the pick that you are using ? Thanks in advance.
Insane that you're using slightly different gear and it sounds just like the White Stripes. I think it's the Silvertone amps that do most of the heavy lifting.
Could anyone tell me what kind of fuzz pedal that was? I’ve never heard of the brand and I’m not sure how to spell it I also don’t see it in the description lol thanks
the power "type" changing tone is a myth and makes no sense because the tubes runs on 400v DC regardless off input power being 120v 60hz or 240v 50hz. theres a power transformer and a rectifier on either europe or american versions.
Sweet video man you nailed it for sure! On my rig I use a jhs twin twelve straight into the fx loop of my hot rod deluxe, and I plug into the pedal bypassing the hotrod’s whole pre amp section haha
@@LivingroomGearDemos Yeah it’s sweet man, I find it lacks a little mid range so I use a wah before just to flatten out the eq and it makes my fuzz just scream it’s awesome, I want to replace the wah with the haunting mids or maybe the pdf-1x from stone deaf, or the q-boost to get Josh Homme tones too, Your videos on his tone are so good!
alternative way: Step 1: Find Jack's house Step 2: Capture Jack step 3: tie him to the pipe in your basement Step 4: Torture him until he tells you all about playing the guitar Step 5: Let him go optional (skip step 5): find Meg and then re-create the white stripes (imposible, Meg is too powerfull)
Guy in Video Up Top... tip for you.... DON'T LAY Your GUITAR ON THE FLOOR! you'll throw it out of Tune... Take and Lay the Guitar Strings Faceing your amp or Chair or Love Seat.... cause the Strings well help keep the guitar from falling... YOUR WELCOME :) and good video kid. and yes the Old AIRLINES where JUNK the New Ones are Better.
Wow, what a killer sound, well done man you absolutely nailed it, completely captured the vibe too which most videos usually fail to Do But your love for the album really comes through, great work my man
I actually have a kay archtop, it's from the late 60s and I think his was from the 50s but that fuzzy kay sound is spot on with mine! You turn on that overdrive and it turns into this real grungey fuzzy insane sound especially with a slide! (Also I know for a fact that he actually used a Boss CS-3 Compressor on Elephant on guitar and vocals!)
And btw, I did try with a compressor and couldn't get it to work right. But I've seen that about the CS-3 as well. It was a part of his live rig for a while as well.
Jack white is a great guitarist but tik tok musicians made me hate Seven nation army I’ve heard that song play over and over they think they played the hardest riff in the world
on the early white stripes albums that was true. the silvertone amps were a sears brand name but were made by danelectro, the airline guitar was a montgomery ward brand but was made by valco who also made guitars and amps under the national and supro brands.
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the eastwood reproduction of that guitar is far superior to the original valco airline guitar, which was an almost unplayable piece of junk. the one jack white played was extensively modified internally with a much larger wood block between the neck and the tailpiece so it would actually stay in tune and resonate properly and a lot of work was done to the neck as well.
It's crazy just how good the newer airlines are. Shortly after Elephant was released a bandmate of mine bought an Airline repro, and back then we all still thought Airlines, Silvertones, Danelectros and other pawn shop finds were just plastic junk, so imagine my surprise when I liked it more than both my Ibanez and my Fender. Turns out they were based on plastic junk, so I wasn't totally wrong.
Agreed, having owned several originals-they were absolute garbage. They felt even cheaper than a Wal-Mart $100 guitar today
I have four original Valco made guitars and they are fantastic in all respects. I tried an Eastwood or two and was underwhelmed. No go for me, unfortunately.
Without the res o there's no tone..sure it might be hard guitar to work for a lot of modern players but it's the og
I’ve owned 3 of the original 2P red models and one of the original white 3P models. I’ve also owned 3 original wooden ones in the same body style and those were definitely worse then the resoglas ones. It’s not the fiberglass that makes it worse, it’s neglect and age. Nobody cared about these guitars for decades.
The stereo amp setup is the secret sauce for sure.
yeah the whammy 4 needs to be recalibrated every now and again. That d'angelico is stunning.
I think it's more of a mechanical thing. The expression pedal get stuck sometimes.
I actually took some of the rubber feet off of the treadle on my Whammy 4, because it had issues returning to neutral. I still love it though, and I’ve owned both the 4 and 5. The 4 has more mojo to my ears
Agreed re the D’Angelico!
Absolutely love learning how the sounds of one of my favourite albums were created! Great video as always
Thanks!
Finally somebody giving love to elephant, it's such a great album
Best WS album. Fight me if you think otherwise.
Elephant is widely considered the best, but I think Icky Thump is way underrated. The guitar licks are epic.
this is the best jack white tone video I've ever seen, and I've been looking to get some of his tone since is saw him in 2014 at Red Rocks. Seriously well done.
Thank you very much! :)
I think the purpose of the Micro Amp is (yes, it gives a slight gain boost on the dirtier amp and a volume boost on the cleaner amp) to amplify the pick attack and raise the minimum volume floor; I noticed when you had the Micro Amp on, the "click" of your pick attack was much more pronounced. It also gives the sound overall harmonic richness without a lot of extra distortion, and the way it brings up the minimum volume is how he did the stutter trick for most of his career with some very careful fingerwork around muting. (I think he might use the Coppersound Telegraph now, and his signature pedal with them, the Triplegraph, just came out).
If you place the micro amp after the Big muff It allows to boost the volume of this pedal which is known to lost some volume. This is a trick for almost every fuzz pedals and It's a trick use by a lot of band.
Sounded really good to me. I too love that album, I think it’s the White Stripes best, personally. Well done, sir! I have been to Norway once, Oslo during an unusually warm summer. It was one of the most beautiful areas of the world that I’ve ever seen. Loved it.
Just what I needed to go listen to the album again
1:17 I died xD Looks like studio is brimming with gear. Almost didn't recognize it at first
The fuzz pedal you chose was excellent and close enough. Jack used a big muff pi but it’s modded to keep the treble up.
You mean when the volume is turned down on the pedal, it retains highs better?
I bought a guitar when I first heard this album. It sounded easy to play these songs so I gave it a go :) offend in every way was hard as balls
That's on white blood cells but elephant sat in the can for almost a year as I was recorded only four months after white blood cells
That silvertone amp sounds so dang good. Great video!
After listening to Elephant a million times, it was the second time I ventured back into a bands album catalogue. Was definitely a pivotal point in my guitar playing and music listening, I never really thought about it until now but it really changed everything for me. As for these tones, close but I think it needs more chunk, there is something missing. Is the MXR Micro Amp not cranked all the way up? Great video as usual
Agreed
Nailed it. Killer sounds man 💥
Thanks Luke!
Love that Silvertone amp. I’ve had one myself for a few years and couldn’t be happier with the sound and feel. You should try jumping the two channels together like you would an old plexi. This gives a lot more head room and tone shaping possiblities. Also it can get stupid loud
Been waiting for this video! Awesome as always!
Yay! Thank you!
Wow you nailed it! And I thought you killed it in your old video with the JHS twin twelve years ago! 🤯 not just the tones but your playing was spot on especially the way he plays button to button live with the bass line! 🙌🤯🤘⚡️🎸🎛📻💥
LOVE me some Silvertones! I have a beautiful '66 1482 that I restored, but I'd still like to get a 1484 someday. Great video! Elephant was also a super important album to me back in the day, in high school and whatnot.. Lots of fond memories! ✌️
Just got a 1484!
Love these videos man! I've been a big White Stripes fan for years and have been attempting to nail these tones and riffs since I picked up the electric guitar. A little trick I've been messing with lately is using the Old Blood Noise Endeavors Signal Blender to achieve what is usually only done in the studio. For example on Dead Leaves intro theres a second layer of cleaner guitar by the second measure (im guessing the Silvertone without the muff) and I layer that on top, then just remove the big muff signal on the verse parts, and vice versa for the chorus. Sounds very close to me. Thanks for taking the time to do these, I'm always learning something new from you!
that sounds like a neat way to do it!
Would love to see a black keys vid 👍
Good idea!
YES
Once again, amazing content!
thanks man!
Many thanks! Saved in my Music Gear folder
i think above the gear is how you dial it in and play. jack has a really wild way of playing and his fuzz is usually set to be more high end focused. the stereo amps definitely help, the pitch shifter is important, but as long as you get one octave up and one octave down it doesn’t matter which one. i think mostly it’s about the gear, it’s how you use what basics you can get
Of course
Great album, great job with your tones.
Thanks Ryan!
Whammy 4 can be glitchy, very good sounds :)
You just need to calibrate the whammy and it’ll sound fine.
🔥Very cool! Sounds just like it!
“Welcome to the tone dungeon, it’s extremely warm in here!” We can say he has pretty warm tone then
Amazing video, keep up with it!
Thanks, will do!
That’s fantastic.
Thanks so much
Very welcome!
Great video as always bro!
Appreciate it!
The Muff models do vary a lot in basic shape, tone, and harmonic content.Jack W used the common NYC model, which is the same in mini reissue .The Russian mini would be another good choice, as it has wider tonal range.
I'd avoid the OpAmp and the Rams Head, which are their own things.
There are hundreds of copies and clones that would work well, - it's a popular circuit that is easy to tweak and modify.
As always ,sounds great.Seemingly, we have similar taste in music.
Thanks for the good info!
Really good playing
Cool video. Very deep dive👍
Well done friend you’ve got that tone dialed in
Spot on, great job!
Thanks!
Can you do one for the Icky Thump album?! I heard he used a Gretsch White Penguin for the whole thing. It's one of the rarest guitars, but maybe you can find a cheaper version of it like an electromatic.
That's a very good copy, even though the gear is not exactly the same... Great work!
Please do either of the first two Strokes records!
I might! In the meantime, check out Harry and a Guitar here on UA-cam ;)
Tone was really close but TBH I think that sound can be approximated with so much gear - which was why it was so good in the first place. It sounded like it had always been around - and proved that even in 2003 you could play blues based music in a way that was still innovative.
Now, 20 years after Europe discovered the White Stripes - we finally have a worthy potential surrogate - the Courettes from Aalborg Denmark - so nearly Norway.
I never loved the twin in the states either. Brutally clean at deafening levels. Overkill at all but the loudest gigs.
Twins are clean, but there is something about their pristine clarity with tubes that works, and they take pedals well, including dirt.
A clean amp I did not connect with, but I only played once briefly, was the JC-120.
See, I actually don’t mind the JC120, but then I love the sound of African blues. I’m glad the Twin makes you happy though!
You should check Oh Sees out, John Dwyer's got interesting fuzz sounds!
Veldig bra jobb, som vanlig
Very good build quality on those Eastwood Airline guitars, I own a white '59 3p DLX which gives me a very good feel especially on the neck...that is once you get used to it and stop messing volume and tone knobs when you strum 😂
Pickups are ok (they are not Humbuckers btw), a very good clean tone in my opinion but a little..."anonimous", I'm about to upgrade the guitar with some SD Vintage Classic filter'trons and go for a Gretsch-ish sound 🤘🏻
There's a book with some photos from the session. I don't recall seeing the Silvertone, it was just the Twin and the Selmer, which was probably used for crunch tones, like Ball and Biscuit. As for pedals, he also used a Boss compressor. Although Jack used the Kay live for Seven Nation, in the studio I'd bet the was the Airline. He also brought the Crestwood Astral II.
Interesting! I've seen a photo of him with the Kay and a slide in Toe Rag. I figured that must have been for Seven Nation Army?
@@LivingroomGearDemosJack also played slide in I Want To Be The Boy, but for Seven Nation I think he used a different guitar though.
That was the first slide part I ever learned :) For I Want To Be The Boy. But why do you think he used the Airline for 7NA?
You are a great guitar player, it sounds so similar to jack white
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
You nailed it!
Big muff pi, digitech whammy, close enough
That's how you do it if you can't afford all that shit like me!
Great video though! 👍
Hello ! I've been watching your videos for quite some years and you've been very helpful so far, so thank you for that :)
Out of context question here, what's the pick that you are using ?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks! Ernie Ball Ever-Last 1.14mm 🤟🏻
love this video keep it up
all these gear links, but no info on where you get your straps??
Insane that you're using slightly different gear and it sounds just like the White Stripes. I think it's the Silvertone amps that do most of the heavy lifting.
That Byiang FZ-7 is a RamHead circuit with a cliping diode selector.
oh, it is? It worked well for the sound I think, but Jack only used regular NYC Big Muffs.
This video looks very professional
Thanks!
This was awesome 👏
Thanks!
Great work, gotta love those tones! It sounded like the Whammy without rocking the pedal added some character to the distortion, is that so?
I don’t think so, but it might be! It’s adds a very little latency though.
WHAT fuzz did you use in this?
Could anyone tell me what kind of fuzz pedal that was? I’ve never heard of the brand and I’m not sure how to spell it I also don’t see it in the description lol thanks
Big Muff - Pi
@@gerardbuttigieg he said he actually didn’t use a big muff he used a cheaper fuzz pedal I don’t have the money for a big muff lol
@@connerdearing Biyang FZ-7
@@TysonMRox thanks man
So sick!
Thanks Ben!
I always wondered how jack got such a clear sound on a gen 4
the power "type" changing tone is a myth and makes no sense because the tubes runs on 400v DC regardless off input power being 120v 60hz or 240v 50hz. theres a power transformer and a rectifier on either europe or american versions.
Well done 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼
Thanks!
Sweet video man you nailed it for sure! On my rig I use a jhs twin twelve straight into the fx loop of my hot rod deluxe, and I plug into the pedal bypassing the hotrod’s whole pre amp section haha
ah, cool! Does that work fine?
@@LivingroomGearDemos Yeah it’s sweet man, I find it lacks a little mid range so I use a wah before just to flatten out the eq and it makes my fuzz just scream it’s awesome, I want to replace the wah with the haunting mids or maybe the pdf-1x from stone deaf, or the q-boost to get Josh Homme tones too, Your videos on his tone are so good!
A Boss EQ would work really well for that as well!
That was awesome. Thanks for all the tips, love Jack's sound. Elephant was a Nevermind of the 21 st century
@@LivingroomGearDemos Oh yeah I forgot about maybe I’ll trade me pog to get one thanks man!
alternative way:
Step 1: Find Jack's house
Step 2: Capture Jack
step 3: tie him to the pipe in your basement
Step 4: Torture him until he tells you all about playing the guitar
Step 5: Let him go
optional (skip step 5):
find Meg and then re-create the white stripes (imposible, Meg is too powerfull)
How do you combine the Amps? Do you run the Pedals in Front of both of them?
Lehle splitter and pedals in front of both amps, yes.
I think the part with the micro amp should be done with the big muff fuzz.
There was a selmar twin zodiac on the record..he didnt ship the supro to England to record the record
nailed it.
Are you using a simple ABY splitter after the pedals on the floor? Thanks
Yup, it's a Lehle P-Split III
Great thank you for replying
I’m impressed at the $ you’ve spent on all that gear 😮
try qotsa sound on a boss katana
Guy in Video Up Top... tip for you.... DON'T LAY Your GUITAR ON THE FLOOR! you'll throw it out of Tune... Take and Lay the Guitar Strings Faceing your amp or Chair or Love Seat.... cause the Strings well help keep the guitar from falling... YOUR WELCOME :) and good video kid. and yes the Old AIRLINES where JUNK the New Ones are Better.
Do you have an acoustic guitar?
Yes
You forgot that he uses the octave pedal along with the normal input
Hey is that an ampeg vt40 in the background!?!?
Yup
@@LivingroomGearDemos I have one too 😁
Are you attenuating the amps or are you wearing ear plugs because those amps seem to be cranked haha. They sound great.
I'm using the master volume on the Hamstead, but it was still loud as shit in there. Haha!
@@LivingroomGearDemos hahaha I’m sure it was. Love your videos keep doing what you’re doing!
Fantástic 😃
thanks!
Is there any cheaper version of getting the same kind of effect of the whammy but like half the price? Lol
I think the Ricochet is cheaper!
@@LivingroomGearDemos Thanks man! You killed it btw!
EHX Pitchfork, with a basic expression pedal.It's actually a better pedal than the Digitechs( both models), which are known for breaking down.
Do you have a video on Nirvana?
No. Maybe I should?
@@LivingroomGearDemos yea! That b awesome 😎 love the content man!
Sounds like orange crush
Do reignwolf
THEM TOANZ!!!
Yeeeee
Eru kansk lit norsk? Bra video
Jepp!
You got the tone but at higher fidelity!
Wow, what a killer sound, well done man you absolutely nailed it, completely captured the vibe too which most videos usually fail to
Do But your love for the album really comes through, great work my man
I actually have a kay archtop, it's from the late 60s and I think his was from the 50s but that fuzzy kay sound is spot on with mine! You turn on that overdrive and it turns into this real grungey fuzzy insane sound especially with a slide! (Also I know for a fact that he actually used a Boss CS-3 Compressor on Elephant on guitar and vocals!)
Nice! Aren't they hard to come by?
And btw, I did try with a compressor and couldn't get it to work right. But I've seen that about the CS-3 as well. It was a part of his live rig for a while as well.
@@LivingroomGearDemos yes! yes they are! I found mine in a local store.
No ball and biscuit??...that's the high piont of the whole record??...I think the playing is too straight especially Death Letter..it swings more..
Twins are amazing when dialed in... terrible when they are not...
All very close, other than seven nation army but not gunna recreate that Kay guitar he uses..
Get a cooling fan, besides all your UA-cam fans and amplifiers, it will save your life.
I have one, but I can't use it when talking in videos. Makes too much noise :/
🍭
Selmer Zodiac.
Jack white is a great guitarist but tik tok musicians made me hate Seven nation army I’ve heard that song play over and over they think they played the hardest riff in the world
Good video,but i think the intro/talk is bit too long
I put tags in the videos so you can skip any part you want. Cheers
How can you listen to that album like “a lot”? I hated that sound so much
Jack White sounds like he plays through the cheapest, oldest, no name SEARS catalog amps and guitars.
on the early white stripes albums that was true. the silvertone amps were a sears brand name but were made by danelectro, the airline guitar was a montgomery ward brand but was made by valco who also made guitars and amps under the national and supro brands.
how to become Jack white.
Step 1. buy shitty plastic guitar and pretend its good.
Step 2 : learn a couple bars cords.
Step 3: your done
Also get a shitty drummer that struggles to play in 4/4
No one really likes a fender twin they are so brutally loud and harsh
Speak for yourself!
Yeah, - That's not true.