The new EG4 12KPV inverter review & testing~ Massive surge capacity in one small package
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- Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
- In this video I install the new EG4 12Kpv. I also do some load tests and discuss some of the features the inverter has. This inverter is a great mid range option for people that are in the market for a hybrid inverter.
Link to EG4’s load test.
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Current Connected link to the inverter
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Great review. Tell EG4 I want an outdoor rated 6000XP next!
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@@thinde88 that is basically the 12kpv. It would cost that much with a 10 year warranty, and sealed for outdoor use. The cost would be close to or the same so not worth the build. Great idea though. The price point and features on the 6000xp is the why it is so awesome 😎
@@d.pollard5962 warrantying a sealing a $1500 unit makes the price $3500? I dunno about that...
me too
Good job on the video, as always! And congrats on passing 20k subscribers!
Thanks. It’s all uphill from here!
Really cool video Gavin. Glad to see your channel growing.
Thank you sir. You were one of the early subscribers. 😉
This is a great sounding unit, and the price is a lot nicer than the 5k I am currently looking at. Hmmm, it might be changing my mind.
Thanks for sharing, and as always, keep building 👍
It really just depends on how much power you need. The 18kpv does provide a lot more power when needed.
@GavinStoneDIY I used your affiliate link to order a 12k, I hope they give you a good kickback 👍
@@ToddLarsen man I really appreciate that. It’ll be neat to see you making content with this inverter!
@GavinStoneDIY cnc plasma table, 3d printers, water heater, and a whole lot more. Air conditioning in the back 40, lol
waoo!! nice well this will be my upgrade to my 6000xp if i decide to sell back to the grid. here in puerto rico the grid company is a mess thats why i have not considered to get a hybrid inverter. plus my 6000xp is working flawless 24/7 from day one. but got to say price range the 12k is a good option. like always excellent video my friend
Yeah if someone needed an inverter for net metering this would be a great option.
It also has the grid features. Like you mentioned though, it’s hard to go wrong with a 6000xp for off grid uses.
Im' in PR too. Running 24/7 on one 6000xp and got a second in parallel about a month ago. I f you decide not to sell to the grid it would be better to get a second 6000xp. Luma / grid will continue to get worse as people keep connecting to it for solar.
Stop voting democrats in puerto rico
Looks like a beast! I like that it's got the same features as the 18kPV just slimmed down.
Yeah. It’s an 18kpv with short legs.
As a happy EG4 6000XP owner, I'd like to see a load/start comparison of 2 6000XP and this 12K. I'm one of those guys who will feed batteries rather than the grid.
That really wouldn’t be an apples to apples comparison. The output on this inverter is 8kw. 2 XP’s output 12kw.
The 6000XP’s have a really robust surge capacity. But the 12kpv is definitely impressive when it comes to surges also.
Thanks for review this.....well done!
Thanks! I had a good time on this one
great job as always thank you...would LOVE to see a comparison to the NHX-10K...that NHX seems to be holding up pretty well from what I read on the forum, and the price is really good too...
Yeah the NHX has a bit more output power. But it lacks an AC coupling option. This inverter is way easier to wire up because of the wiring compartment space. Plus it has better line balancing and surge specs. Although the NHX is still cheaper. It probably depends on what someone needs out of the inverter.
@@GavinStoneDIYI’d be eager to see the comparison too. I learned the hard way about line balancing on a 3k unit which couldn’t handle an 1800W microwave or coffee maker so am curious how the NHX fares here.
@@thedabbler2753 the NHX could handle just over it’s rated output on a single line. But not for too long.
I do like the multiple MPPT options on the NHX. You could have 4 arrays in different areas with that inverter.
@@GavinStoneDIY the multiple MPPTs is a major sell for me. Lots of shading here so I have three strings on the go at present. ps. I know this probably isn't the thread but if you have any data on how the NHX does with house lights flickering, or inductive loads. Maybe a future video when the EG4 fun dies down a bit ;)
@@thedabbler2753 I’ll be honest. I wish I still had it. It was just a loaner for a review. I had zero flickering lights. And it did better than I anticipated on inductive loads. It wouldn’t have the lengthy surge time of a Lux inverter, but it can keep that steady 10kw rating.
Very nice!
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Nice unit. I really like how it pairs well with the wall mount batteries from EG4. If I needed grid interactive features this is what i'd go with as I don't need 18k level power. I love that it's dead quiet till over 6kW and a low idle consumption. Thanks for the review Gavin. Oh, can you clarify - can you run both a power pro and a bank of LLs rack batteries on one inverter via bus bar? Thanks.
Thanks! Yes you can run both. They’ll parallel and communicate together without an issue. I’ll try to show that in my next video on the 12kpv. They have the same BMS, so it works really well.
Great video! One question, your LL batteries are paralleled to the indoor power pro batteries on the bus bar on the indoor power pro? and communication as well I'm assuming?
Exactly. Technically they are using the exact same BMS. I’ll try to show that in a follow up video.
@@GavinStoneDIY Thank You! I would appreciate it. I have 3 LL's and looking to purchase 1 indoor power pro , so I'm looking to do the same. Just want to make see how it's done before I pull the trigger. All Great videos, keep it up.
Nice! Great video as always. 👏🏻
Thanks man
Gavin, this is what I need. Do you think two 6000xp would be more powerful utilizing 16k worth of PV? Two 6000xp would still be cheaper but at the expense of bit more idle consumption. I am really having a hard time deciding although my application is off grid.
2-xp’s vs 2-12kpvs?
@@GavinStoneDIY I am not sure what your answer is, should I buy 2 6000xp or 1 12kpv?
@@ianstephenson650 ahhh ok. I was just asking if you were considering 2 of each.
It really depends on how much power youll need. The 2 6000xp’s will output 12,000 watts. And you’ll be limited to 8,000watts with the 12kpv. So things like water wells or larger electric appliances have to be taken into account. The 12kpv wouldn’t be able to utilize the entire 16k of solar. So that’s another factor. And then redundancy is something to ponder also. If one of your XP’s goes down for some reason you’ll still have power. If the 12kpv drops then you’d be out of power unless you have another backup. There is something to be said for both really.
I noticed the two communication cables seem to be (Labeled) specific. I am assuming they are labeled to either assist people with knowing the location to plug them in, or they are not standard Ethernet (T568A/T568B) terminated. Is one of the cables a crossover?
The parallel cables have a specific pinout. The battery communication cables are just cat6 cables I believe.
@@GavinStoneDIY Hey thanks for the response ! I appreciate the information your channel provides.
with prices now out it would be better to get 2x 6000xp that can output 240V at 50A (12000 watts) and cost less for both.
For off grid it’s hard to beat the XP. And they do a fantastic jobs on surges also.
But for people considering one standalone unit that has a waterproof rating, is quiet and runs smooth, this could be a good option.
@@GavinStoneDIYwith a closed system. No dust
@@d.pollard5962 yeah that’s a big factor.
Another great video! Could you set it up 120/208 and check voltages on phase-to-phase and phase-to-neutral? We live on a condo (USA) we get 120/208 service from the grid.
208v? Wow
@@GavinStoneDIYhi, yes is oretty normal for condos and apartment complexes in the US. Could you set it to 120/208 and confirm if the voltages are in fact 120/208?
@@carlossantini sure. I’ll take a look this weekend if I get a chance.
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They are nice machines for sure!
I’ll be working on another video for it next week hopefully.
@@GavinStoneDIY I will keep my eyes open for it, I am designing a different type of home and this 12KPV would be a great fit for it, form~fit~and funtion!!!
Any example(s) to show generator connected, ie. charging batteries, simulated grid down, position of switches ?
Sure I’ll see if I can throw that in the next one. Honestly though I usually recommend the chargeveter. It really depends on what generator you have, but the chargeveter can eliminate some potential issues. If you haven’t watched my video on that it might be helpful.
@@GavinStoneDIY a Honda EU7000ISNAN generator, no chargeverter should be required with this Honda inverter
Currently have no power for last 3 day from Hurricane Beryl.. how would I connect a dual power generator?
I’m not sure what “dual power” means. Connect it to the 12kpv? A chargeveter would be ideal.
If not you can wire it into the generator port. You’ll need a cord with a nema 50 or 30 connector to hook into the generator.
@@GavinStoneDIY awesome thank you!! If i did so could I charge and power my home at the same time.... or would this be bad for the 12KPV AND OR BATTERY?
@@Jay-fc4fg yes you can do both assuming you have enough power. You can adjust your charging amperage on the 12kpv to make sure you don’t go beyond your generators limits.
Are you going to do a similar review of midnite's latest AIO?
I’m still pondering that. I’m looking forward to seeing more of Adam’s videos on it. And I may get one to stress test. They look really cool.
It would be an interesting comparison vs Deye, apparently egyll is a better option.
The LL’s and Pro batteries are a better option in my opinion.
Yeah this is obviously cheaper than a Solark 8k. I wish I had one on the wall to test them side by side.
Does it have an ats for the generator?
Yes. Also dry contacts to engage on auto start for a generator.
make a video trying to parallel with your 18kpv
I’ll explain that in the next video yeah.
Look like you combi Server Rack Batteries and Wall Mount Indoor Battery. Next video can you show me the batteries connection + Inverter Communication (RJ45)
Thank you.
I’ll try to add that yeah.
@@GavinStoneDIY Thank you. I ask that because I have 4 Server Rack Batteries on my 6000EX love to update to 18K inverter and add Wall Mount Indoor Battery later.
@@lucthien601 yeah I’m still using the 18k for the house off grid. Still working fantastic